[00:19] <cyberix_> Can I request for a new license to be added?
[00:19] <cyberix_> Or is it just that you look which ones are popular with a heuristic of some sorts?
[00:21] <mwhudson> cyberix_: i think we have a policy of trying to discourage license proliferation
[00:23] <cyberix_> I got the impression ISC license was fairly popular.
[00:24] <wgrant> I think it's actually fairly rare.
[00:25] <manjo> when I try to register key with launchpad I get Launchpad could not verify your signature: (7, 9, 'No public key')
[00:25] <wgrant> manjo: Did you push the key to keyserver.ubuntu.com?
[00:25] <manjo> I clearsigned the key and pasted on the launchpad window
[00:26] <wgrant> manjo: Which page are you on?
[00:26] <manjo> Manoj Iyer •
[00:26] <manjo> Thanks for adding your OpenPGP key to Launchpad. So we can confirm that the key is yours, we need you to use the key to sign some text.
[00:27] <wgrant> Are you sure you're using the right key?
[00:27] <manjo> I did a clearsign verify and it said it looks good
[00:28] <manjo> clearsign & verify
[00:28] <wgrant> The verify said it was the same key that Launchpad is expecting?
[00:29] <manjo> gpg: Signature made Tue 06 Oct 2009 05:57:56 PM CDT using RSA key ID 81991794
[00:29] <manjo> gpg: Good signature from "Manoj Iyer (manjo) <manoj.iyer@canonical.com>"
[00:30] <wgrant> And 81991794 is the key you registered on LP?
[00:30] <manjo> I am trying to sign Please register 07C---F to the
[00:30] <manjo> Launchpad user manjo.  2009-10-06 22:23:41 UTC
[00:31] <wgrant> That doesn't look like the same key.
[00:31] <wgrant> The fingerprint ends with F, but the key ID you signed the text with ends with 4.
[00:31] <manjo> let me push that key again
[00:32] <manjo> gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys 81991794
[00:32] <manjo> gpg: sending key 81991794 to hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[00:32] <manjo> wgrant, will that take some time to sync ?
[00:33] <wgrant> manjo: The fingerprint of the key with which you are signing the text is F351 0055 1DC0 F8BF 4DB3  A646 5C51 4CA7 8199 1794
[00:34] <wgrant> The text you are signing appears to say the fingerprint it wants is 07C...F
[00:34] <wgrant> => you are using the wrong key
[00:34] <manjo> how do I get it to use the key with fingerprint 07C ?
[00:34] <manjo> to sign ?
[00:34] <manjo> --clearsign --key ?
[00:35] <wgrant> --clearsign -u KEYID
[00:35]  * manjo mia kulpa 
[00:37] <manjo> ah that worked
[00:37] <manjo> thanks a ton wgrant
[00:37] <wgrant> manjo: Great. No problem.
[00:59] <visik7> is it planned to add to bazaar automated branch import from at least the 4 main software repositories ? github bitbucket googlecode and sourceforge ?
[01:04] <wgrant> visik7: Launchpad can already import Git, Subversion and CVS branches, which covers all of those except BitBucket.
[01:25] <ub3rst4r> hi, i have a team assigned to my bazaar branch. do i need to change my launchpad-login on bazaar to lrc-team so that it will work right?
[01:25] <wgrant> ub3rst4r: No. As long as you're a member of the team, you will have access.
[01:25] <ub3rst4r> ok
[01:26] <ub3rst4r> how come whenever i go to push to the branch it creates a new one?
[01:26] <ub3rst4r> https://code.launchpad.net/lilregcleaner
[01:26] <ub3rst4r> notice the one with nick58
[01:26] <wgrant> ub3rst4r: Maybe it has stored the old push location, without the team name?
[01:27] <wgrant> bzr push --remember lp:lilregcleaner
[01:27] <ub3rst4r> ok maybe i didnt add the remember
[01:28] <wgrant> You just need to do that the first time.l
[01:30] <ub3rst4r> push branch: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Enick58/lilregcleaner/devel/
[01:30] <ub3rst4r>  push branch: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lrc-team/lilregcleaner/devel/
[01:30] <ub3rst4r> :D
[01:30] <wgrant> Great.
[01:30] <ub3rst4r> thanks
[01:30] <wgrant> Now just delete the ~nick58 one, and you'll be fine.
[03:17] <x-warrior> Where can I get more information about how and when to use the section code from launchpad? Actually i'm studing computer science and want to share some codes with the community
[03:18] <x-warrior> but i don't have sure, that this codes will be something like a big program or something like
[04:52] <X-warrior> Where can I get more information about how and when to use the section code from launchpad? Actually i'm studing computer science and want to share some codes with the community
[04:52] <X-warrior> but i don't have sure, that this codes will be something like a big program or something like
[06:00] <RenatoSilva> What's the diff between "target to milestone" and "taget to release" in bugs? The former is a column of the projects table where you select a milestone, the latter is below that table, and you select a series, which in pratice is selectiong the same milestone to me. So what's the diff?
[06:00] <RenatoSilva> Bug 445095 is an example
[06:04] <RenatoSilva> Better: what's the milestone's Active field? What does bug targeting mean there? The release affected by the bug, or next release that will fix it? If this last, then the only way to really identify the milestone to which the bug applies is typing in bug description?
[06:31] <superm1> hey guys i've been trying to get an apport-ified bug filed, but it keeps timing out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+filebug/ywFU8HsUlXQDzhqr1sHd3H2GdB3?field.title=mythfrontend.real+crashed+with+SIGSEGV+in+QMutex%3A%3Alock%28%29
[06:42] <al-maisan> Good morning!
[06:43] <superm1> it keeps telling me to come in #launchpad to talk to you guys about it
[06:56] <superm1> well it eventually got filed after about 45 tries, but why did that time out so many times?
[06:57] <spiv> superm1: the search for possible duplicates can be slow, especially if you have a lot of words in your initial bug summary
[06:57] <superm1> that was even before i got up to the initial bug summary
[06:57] <superm1> it was a big coredump that got attached to it, 53 megs or so
[06:57] <spiv> It's a bug that it's so slow any situation, of course.
[06:58] <spiv> If you have a specific OOPS ID someone will be able take a look at the OOPS report to give a more specific answer about why it was slow for you.
[06:59] <superm1> well it eventually got filed (bug 445173), i didn't notate any of those oops ids. that would have been smart :)
[06:59] <spiv> All new OOPS reports are looked at every day though.
[06:59] <superm1> okay well surely i should show up in it then with my many tries :)
[06:59] <spiv> I'm sure you will :)
[06:59] <superm1> okay thanks!
[06:59] <spiv> I'm glad it got through.
[07:25] <lodder> Hi when I upload to my ppa it won't build getting this error:
[07:25] <lodder> make: *** [debian/python-module-stampdir/time-drive] Error 1
[07:25] <lodder> dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2
[07:26] <lodder> I don't even have clue what I can do about it, please help me
[07:26] <lodder> here is the full build log: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33204464/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.time-drive_0.3-1~karmic1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[08:25] <mzz> It looks like launchpad does not like the apport-powered bug I'm trying to file (Error ID: OOPS-1376G935). Is there anything I can do about this?
[08:25] <mzz> (that oops is actually after I tried my standard stupid debugging step of hitting f5 once)
[08:25] <mzz> (sorry, forgot to write down the oops I got before that)
[08:28] <spiv> mzz: UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf8' codec can't decode byte 0xff in position 2235: unexpected code byte
[08:29] <spiv> mzz: so I guess Launchpad is expecting some data in that the apport attachment to be UTF-8 encoded, but it seems it isn't.
[08:29] <spiv> I don't know enough to say if that's a bug in Launchpad or apport (or both...)
[08:30] <spiv> It does seem likely that Launchpad ought to cope more gracefully in any case.
[08:31] <mzz> hmm, I guess I'll get to figure out where that apport report lives on my drive so I can file manually
[08:31] <wgrant> mzz: /var/crash
[08:31] <mzz> (and you might want the report to debug this, or does the oops include enough of it to debug?)
[08:33]  * mzz is having fun finding other unrelated bugs while trying to debug something, I think this is bug number 4 and counting)
[08:33] <spiv> Not sure if the OOPS report has enough detail, so probably safest and simplest to add the apport file explicitly.
[08:35] <LarstiQ> how do I provide feedback on why https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/blender/trunk is failing?
[08:35] <LarstiQ> I'm pretty sure I know why
[08:36] <mzz> will do, give me a few minutes to more thoroughly debug my failing X server so I can restart it without losing information
[08:51] <mzz> is there some place I can complain or vote or whatever about the current push on ubuntu's end to file all bugs through apport? I know this isn't it, but I still want to do it somewhere.
[08:53] <mzz> (and it's not about this apport report failing, it's about the original problem I was debugging :)
[08:58] <spiv> LarstiQ: I guess you could file a question at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code.  It would certainly reach the right people, anyway...
[08:59] <LarstiQ> spiv: thanks, I see someone already did :)
[08:59] <LarstiQ> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/84925
[09:06] <mrevell> Morning! I'm the help contact today.
[09:07] <wgrant> mrevell: Did you mean to truncate the topic?
[09:07] <mrevell> wgrant: Nope, thanks.
[09:09] <wgrant> CHR is going to be substantially less useful for IRC support from next week, as there will no longer be a variety of timezones throughout the week :(
[09:13] <Ursinha> wgrant: indeed
[09:24]  * spiv untruncates the /topic
[09:31]  * mzz finds it somewhat suspicious that this crash report has ProblemType: KernelOops but does not mention the string "oops" elsewhere in the report
[09:32] <spiv> mzz: the phrases "Oops!" springs to mind...
[10:21] <mpt> Where do I find the translations of a particular binary package in Launchpad?
[10:23] <mpt> There's no source package Translations page, and I can't figure out how to get to binary package pages any more
[10:38] <wgrant> mpt: Try a source package in a distroseries.
[10:38] <wgrant> mpt: This has always been the case. Distribution source packages and binary packages have never had translations.
[10:39] <mpt> wgrant, ah yes, I'd forgotten about that
[10:39] <mpt> I knew distribution source packages have never yet had Translations pages, I'd forgotten about distribution series source packages
[10:42] <wgrant> DistributionSourcePackages should really have a Translations tab rather like their Branches tab.
[10:51] <mpt> indeed
[10:55] <kwah> hi all
[10:56] <kwah> are there examples of projects, which use launchpad as hosting platform, but do not use translations functionality?
[10:57] <spiv> kwah: sure.  Launchpad itself is one!
[10:59] <kwah> hm
[11:00] <spiv> If you want another example, https://launchpad.net/lilregcleaner doesn't appear to use Launchpad's translations functionality.
[11:02] <spiv> (I found that example by clicking on random projects in the Featured Projects list at https://launchpad.net/ and looking for one with a page that didn't have "Help translate" link under Get Involved.)
[11:02] <kwah> so, ones that do not use certain functionality do not have corresponding links on the summary page, right?
[11:03] <spiv> Right.
[11:03] <wgrant> They currently have the tabs along the top, but not down the side.
[11:03] <wgrant> I hope the top tabs will start vanishing soon.
[11:03] <spiv> And if you click on the "Translations" tab on the top anyway, you'll see a page like: <https://translations.launchpad.net/lilregcleaner>
[11:04] <kwah> spiv, thank you
[11:06] <kwah> btw, any plans on translating/localising LP itself?
[11:15] <spiv> kwah: I think so, but I'm not sure of the details.
[12:47] <visik7> wgrant: I readed your reply right now :) yes but when I import it says that it's not automated and it could take some hours or days to get the tree imported
[12:56] <mrevell-lunch> 1207290422
[12:56] <mrevell> wrong window, sorry
[13:01] <mainiak> hello
[13:02] <mainiak> i have problem with login/registration to launchpad - I has already created account, but it cannot send me password, and also I cannot register
[13:08] <mrevell> mainiak: Hi
[13:09] <mrevell> mainiak: Does that mean you haven't received the confirmation email?
[13:11] <mainiak> mrevell: yes I did - time ago, and I probably followed link included, but now it shouts:
[13:11] <mainiak> Your account details have not been found. Please check your subscription email address and try again.
[13:12] <mainiak> so I am stucked
[13:12] <mrevell> sinzui: Are you available yet? Do you know what issue  mainiak is facing? I've seen a few people have this problem over the past couple of days.
[13:13] <sinzui> mrevell: I do not know of any changes to the login process in the last 3 monthsn
[13:14] <mrevell> thanks sinzui
[13:14] <mrevell> mainiak: Have you tried re-registering?
[13:14] <mainiak> mrevell: yes - cannot because I am already registered
[13:14] <mainiak> maybe quick way would be to ask you to remove my account
[13:15] <sinzui> mainiak: what is the first word in the email address you used?
[13:15] <mainiak> my nickname ;-)
[13:15] <sinzui> okay, launchpad definitely does not know it
[13:15] <mainiak> strange
[13:16] <sinzui> The login server is really the SSO server, which is not launchpad. so your information is not in launchpad yet
[13:16]  * sinzui thinks
[13:17] <mainiak> sinzui: shoud I reregister?
[13:18] <mainiak> maybe is some state error at register procedure?
[13:18] <sinzui> mainiak: visit https://login.launchpad.net/ It may know you.
[13:19] <sinzui> mainiak: indeed. the single-signon seriver's logintoken has the information launchpad need to make your profile
[13:19] <mainiak> sinzui: password reseted! thanks very much
[13:20]  * mainiak still not catch what was the problem :-/
[13:21] <sinzui> mainiak: I am not certain myself, but reset password is also a  self repair mechanism. it will reconnect your profile to your account.
[13:21] <mainiak> sinzui: ok - thanks
[13:21] <mainiak> see you
[13:41] <Phurl> hi all
[13:41] <Phurl> http://fmtyewtk.blogspot.com/2009/10/launchpad-timeout-error.html
[13:41] <Phurl> (Error ID: OOPS-1376E1704)
[13:45] <sinzui> looks like the db was unavailable
[13:46] <sinzui> Phurl: I do not have access to the page do you? can you verify the page displays?
[13:47] <Phurl> i am just retrying
[13:47] <Phurl> it worked on the 3rd try
[13:50] <Phurl> https://translations.launchpad.net/shqipoffice/trunk/+imports
[13:50] <Phurl> ok  i have the po files ready for import.
[16:24] <kfogel> Guest82960: hey, I'm trying to unsubscribe from receiving notifications about every bug filed against Launchpad.  I'm actually having trouble figuring out how to do that, though.  It appears that I'm a member of Launchpad Bug Contacts indirectly, via Canonical Launchpad Engineering.  But I'm not sure how to translate that knowledge into "unsubscribe me from this torrent of mail".  Help?
[16:25] <Ursinha> :)
[16:25] <Ursinha> ok
[16:25]  * Ursinha reads
[16:25] <Ursinha> kfogel: maybe you're subscribed to launchpad bugs
[16:25] <MTecknology> Is metcalfe around?
[16:25] <Ursinha> I mean, launchpad project bugs
[16:26] <kfogel> Ursinha: could be.  The team vs mailing list thing is hard to trace.
[16:27] <kfogel> Ursinha: I have no memory of what I did a year ago to subscribe, is the problem.
[16:27] <kfogel> Ursinha: I am a member of the ~launchpad-bugs team, indirectly via being a member of ~launchpad, yes.
[16:27] <Ursinha> kfogel: I know that I get all bugs because I've explicitly subscribed to lp project
[16:28] <Ursinha> but before that no
[16:28] <kfogel> Ursinha: if only I could figure out where this explicit subscribe/unsubscribe UI is :-).
[16:28] <Ursinha> kfogel: well :)
[16:28] <Ursinha> let me see
[16:29] <kfogel> Ursinha: (just so you know, I poked around in the UI a lot before I asked you, so if it's there it's at least not obvious to me)
[16:29] <Ursinha> kfogel: well, I think it's in the overview page, https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project
[16:29] <kfogel> Ursinha: I remember seeing once a page that listed all my mailing list subscriptions, and which of my addresses the list goes to.  But now I can't find that page.
[16:29] <Ursinha> subscribe to bug mail
[16:29] <Ursinha> weird thing is that i'm subscribed and it shows the subscribe instead of unsubscribe
[16:30] <Ursinha> kfogel: it's the +editemails page
[16:30] <Ursinha> I guess
[16:30] <kfogel> Ursinha: that page (https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project) offers me to "Subscribe to bug mail" so I doubt it thinks I am already subscribed.
[16:30] <kfogel> Ursinha: +editemails -- great, I'll try that.  Is there any route to reach it via the UI, though?
[16:31] <Ursinha> in your profile page, I guess
[16:31] <kfogel> I stared there.
[16:31] <kfogel> started.
[16:31] <kfogel> Well, and "stared" too I guess :-).
[16:31] <kfogel> hmm, so none of the lists shown on https://edge.launchpad.net/~kfogel/+editemails are the all-launchpad-bugs list.
[16:32] <Ursinha> hmm
[16:33] <Ursinha> matsubara: could you help kfogel, please?
[16:33]  * matsubara reads backlog
[16:33] <kfogel> Ursinha: thanks for help so far.
[16:33] <Ursinha> people are waiting for me right now, actually :)
[16:33] <Ursinha> sorry not being more helpful kfogel
[16:33] <kfogel> Ursinha: oh, gosh, you could have handed me off long ago it would have been no problem.
[16:33] <kfogel> thanks for the time you took
[16:33] <kfogel> matsubara: summary:
[16:33] <Ursinha> kfogel: no problem!
[16:34] <kfogel>   I currently get email for every bug filed against Launchpad.  I'm trying to unsubscribe from that (Strategy Team decided I didn't need to be seeing *every* bug that flies by).
[16:34] <kfogel> matsubara: So, unsubscribing from that turns out to be non-obvious.
[16:35] <kfogel> matsubara: oh
[16:35] <matsubara> kfogel, what does it say in the footer of the email you get?
[16:35] <kfogel> matsubara: I think it's not done via launchpad
[16:35] <kfogel> it's launchpad-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
[16:35] <kfogel> maybe I do this via mailman there
[16:35] <kfogel> let me go try that
[16:36] <kfogel> matsubara: I cover my face in shame.  The footer explains all.  Sorry for wasting yours and Ursinha's time.
[16:36] <matsubara> np :-)
[16:44] <MTecknology> Where did creating a new team move to?
[16:44] <MTecknology> foudn it
[17:23] <Noldorin> hello. when will the next maintainance released of Launchpad Bugs be made?
[17:24] <jml> Noldorin, we rollout to launchpad.net about once a month.
[17:25] <Noldorin> jml: oh i see. any idea when the next one will be? mainly because i'm waiting for a bug in Launchpad Bugs to be fixed :)
[17:25] <jml> Noldorin, See https://dev.launchpad.net/Releases/2009Calendar for the full story
[17:25] <Noldorin> jml: thanks
[17:25] <jml> Noldorin, also, we rollout to edge.launchpad.net every day
[17:25] <Noldorin> oh, i see
[17:25] <Noldorin> that's useful to know
[17:30] <Noldorin> jml: i;m wondering why this still hasn't been fixed: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/438985
[17:30] <Noldorin> even on the latest release... what does triaged mean?
[17:30] <gmb> Noldorin: It's on my to do list for this week.
[17:30] <gmb> But other, more pressing issues have had to be dealt with first.
[17:30] <Noldorin> gmb: ok, fair enough :)
[17:30] <jml> Noldorin, "Triaged" means we've figured out the priority.
[17:30] <Noldorin> there are worse bugs?
[17:30] <Noldorin> ah
[17:31] <Noldorin> i haven't noticed any other major bugs with the system, but trust there are enough
[17:31] <gmb> Noldorin: There are 1683 open bugs for Launchpad Bugs; some of them are bound to be higher priority (and in many cases less visible)
[17:32] <gmb> Noldorin: However, it's a relatively easy fix.
[17:32] <Noldorin> yeah, i imagined so
[17:32] <Noldorin> alright, good to have a clue how your maintainance schedule works, at least.
[17:32] <Noldorin> :)
[17:34] <jml> that said, our fearless leader will be sending an email about a Zero OOPS policy any minute now.
[17:34] <jml> good night all.
[17:36] <Noldorin> night
[17:37] <Noldorin> heh, you serious about the zero OOPS policy? :P
[17:43] <mantiena> hi all
[17:46] <mantiena> Maybe someone know why my packages are waiting in build queue for about 2 hours, while 3 i386 builders are Idle, see https://edge.launchpad.net/builders
[17:46] <mantiena> it looks like some problem in launchpad building service again :(
[17:49] <mrevell> hi mantiena
[17:49] <mrevell> bigjools: Are you able to help mantiena
[17:49]  * bigjools looks
[17:53] <mantiena> now 6 builders are idle..
[17:53] <bigjools> mantiena: we've just fixed the problem, should burst back to life in a bit
[17:53] <bigjools> thanks for letting us know
[17:54] <mantiena> bigjools: thank you for fixing ;)
[17:54] <mantiena> bigjools: were was the problem?
[17:54] <bigjools> we sometimes have a problem resetting builders after they finish and it hangs
[17:55] <mantiena> :(
[18:03] <michaelforrest> I'm googling this but not coming up with much: is there a way to do releases through Launchpad?
[18:05] <michaelforrest> it's not clear how I add a 'download' even.
[18:05] <beuno> michaelforrest, hi
[18:05] <beuno> yes
[18:05] <beuno> you need to create a milestone, and release it
[18:06] <beuno> you will then be able to upload files
[18:06] <michaelforrest> will milestones show up even if I want my project to be private?
[18:07] <michaelforrest> I am cautious about using certain features in case they compromise the proprietary nature of the project
[18:07] <beuno> michaelforrest, in theory, private projects can't be seen in any way
[18:07] <beuno> pople get 404s
[18:08] <beuno> but
[18:08] <beuno> bac knows this for sure
[18:08] <beuno> or sinzui even
[18:08] <michaelforrest> last time I checked the only thing that was private was a branch
[18:08] <michaelforrest> maybe this comes back to the problem with my team not being properly private
[18:08] <sinzui> There is no such thing as a private project
[18:09] <beuno> ah, right
[18:09] <beuno> it's only private teams
[18:09] <sinzui> A project may have private branches by default, and a team may be given public access to the branches by default
[18:12] <sinzui> michaelforrest: project names, series, milestones, and releases must have obfuscated names if you want to prevent identity information from leaking. Throwing darts at a dictionary might be the best way to do this
[18:12] <sinzui> :(
[18:12] <michaelforrest> sinzui: that makes me very sad. Names are very important.
[18:13] <sinzui> Yes. Some people believe their projects were compromised by milestone names.
[18:25] <jseabold> This isn't strictly a launchpad question, but does lp provide private repos?  I want to put my dissertation under version control, but don't want people necessarily finding it.
[18:42] <shrike_> anyone install launchpad on a sheevaplug or similar arm cpu?
[19:03] <Lysi> Hi, anyone knows about server problem for updating Karmic?
[21:39] <bwmcadams> I'm fairly new to dealing with debian/ubuntu packaging and trying to figure something out.... I have a slightly modified version of an ubuntu shipped package that another package in my PPA is dependent on for building...
[21:39] <bwmcadams> How do I set the versioning/config properly so that when I upload, it builds against my version rather than the default ubuntu verison?
[21:43] <bwmcadams> ah, i think i see ,the ~ needs to be leading and not a + designator
[23:47] <Noldorin> hello.
[23:48] <Noldorin> i'm trying to create a GPG signature file for uploading to Launchpad for my release...
[23:48] <Noldorin> i'm getting a strange error however:
[23:48] <Noldorin> gpg: can't open `signature': No error
[23:48] <Noldorin> gpg: signing failed: file open error
[23:48] <Noldorin> any ideas?