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CIA-33debian-installer: ogra * r1186 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog control): move redboot-imx51-babbage to the bootloader section in the comments, run debian/genbuilddeps so the new build-dep gets actually picked up08:39
CIA-33debian-installer: ogra * r1187 ubuntu/debian/changelog: release 20081029ubuntu6608:42
=== cjwatson_ is now known as cjwatson
CIA-33hw-detect: cjwatson * r134 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog disk-detect.sh): Fix db_fget arguments when checking for partman-iscsi preseeding.09:50
ograinitializing disk label (MBR and partition table)...09:54
ogrash: udevadm: not found09:54
ogrash: udevadm: not found09:54
ogradoes anyone have an idea what parted does with udevadm ?09:54
cjwatsonall kinds of things09:55
turtle4464good morning cjwatson09:55
ogra(the line causing the udevadm messages is: parted -s "$DEV" mklabel msdos ... while DEV is an image)09:55
cjwatsonturtle4464: hello09:55
cjwatsonogra: why not grep09:55
ograbecause i'm a lazy bastard :)09:56
turtle4464cjwatson, did your fix land in the october 7 daily?09:56
* ogra gets parted source09:56
cjwatsonturtle4464: I believe so, although I have not yet personally verified that it works09:56
cjwatsonthe version number matches09:57
turtle4464cjwatson, its 5 am here and i can't sleep, so i figured i'd give it a shot :p09:57
ogra+        if (system ("udevadm settle") != 0) {09:57
ogra+                /* ignore failures */09:57
ogra+        }09:57
ogragrin09:57
ograok, seems i can ignore it09:57
turtle4464cjwatson, the file http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/karmic-desktop-i386.iso should work correct?09:59
cjwatsonshould10:00
turtle4464do you know if mirrors carry the daily builds, because at this speed, i'll get it in 2 hours10:00
cjwatsonrsync from a previous one10:02
turtle4464huh?10:03
cjwatsonhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RsyncCdImage10:03
cjwatson(mirrors don't typically carry dailies, no)10:03
CIA-33partman-target: cjwatson * r778 ubuntu/debian/ (partman-target.install changelog install):10:12
CIA-33partman-target: Merge debian/partman-target.install into debian/install, as otherwise10:12
CIA-33partman-target: critical files in /lib/partman/choose_method don't get installed10:12
CIA-33partman-target: (LP: #444804).10:12
cjwatsonturtle4464: though bug 444804 may get in your way, I don't know; let me know if the partitioner acts weirdly10:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 444804 in partman-target "debian installer mini iso - can't choose file system type" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44480410:12
turtle4464cjwatson, is it safer if i just wait until the release candidate?10:13
cjwatsonturtle4464: no, please try the daily10:13
turtle4464cjwatson, how can i install it if the partitioner doesn't work :s10:13
cjwatsonI didn't say it *would* be broken!10:14
cjwatsonI said there was a possibility! I was warning you!10:14
cjwatsonin case it was, and you got confused10:14
cjwatsonsigh, I should just not say anything10:14
* turtle4464 runs around in confused circles xD10:14
cjwatsonpretend I never spoke.10:14
CIA-33partman-target: cjwatson * r779 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 64ubuntu310:16
cjwatsonogra: could you use debcommit -r when releasing debian-installer, please?10:16
cjwatsonogra: if you don't, we have to tag manually10:17
cjwatsonogra: huh, and why is the tag for 20081029ubuntu66 set one version behind the commit saying "release 20081029ubuntu66"?10:17
turtle4464cjwatson, at the bottom of the usb startup disk maker, what does the store documents thing do, keep it on the usb drive?10:21
cjwatsonturtle4464: yes, it means that changes to the live session are persistent on the USB stick rather than being lost on reboot as they would be ordinarily10:23
turtle4464so i'd probably select discard on shutdown10:24
turtle4464cjwatson, so that parted bug is fixed, so i won't run into the problem?10:25
cjwatsonwhich parted bug?10:30
turtle446444480410:30
cjwatsonturtle4464: it's fixed but not in the image you have. However *please* don't worry about it. It won't corrupt your disk silently, it will either fail or succeed.10:31
turtle4464ok10:31
turtle4464its too early in the morning for worrying anyways :(10:31
cjwatsonI shouldn't have mentioned it10:31
turtle4464lol10:32
turtle4464supposing it installs, do you think its safe to run it until karmic is final?10:32
cjwatsonsure, you can just upgrade10:35
cjwatsonyou don't have to reinstall from scratch when a new version comes out or anything10:35
ogracjwatson, oh, i usually do bzr tag and then bzr commit (thats how we do it in ltsp upstream since years, hard to get used to do it the other way around), i'll use debcommit in the future10:48
* cjwatson moves the tag10:51
* evand sighs https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/25860310:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 258603 in ubiquity "ubiquity crashed with InstallStepError in configure_user()" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:59
evandsometimes I wish we could lock down malone so that only ~installer-team could manage the status and priority of bugs.10:59
evandapport equally needs to do a better job at duplicate detection11:00
turtle4464cjwatson, got the image, gonna install now with the usb creator11:02
turtle4464cjwatson, if i run into problems i'll use webchat to talk to you11:05
turtle4464see you on the flip side11:06
davmor2evand: my god giving yourself the ability to control your own bugs, next you'll want to rule the world ;)11:08
turtle4464cjwatson: you there?11:09
davmor2evand, cjwatson:  ssshhhh don't look, and don't say a word but it looks like the first wubi run might be working-ish11:09
evandI think there may be something I'm missing with this /home/$USER being owned by root bug.  It's popping up all too often.11:10
evanddavmor2: hooray11:10
davmor2evand: what starts pylauncher is it wubi itself or is it the cd run script?11:11
evandthe autorun script should (but doesn't) run "wubi", which in turn runs the pylauncher binary, which in turn runs the python process, which runs the actual wubi code.11:12
evandI'm sure we can find a way to layer a few more steps in there :)11:13
evanderr autorun config file11:13
davmor2evand: grab todays image then I'm having issues with the auto-run saying it can't launch pylauncher but works fine if I double click on wubi.exe11:14
evandcan you take a screenshot, or jot down the exact error message?11:15
evandand pastebin the wubi log11:15
davmor2evand: will do as soon as this finishes installing11:17
turtle4464cjwatson: the installer is hanging11:17
turtle4464this is the last message in system logs Oct  7 10:12:19 ubuntu ubiquity: /usr/lib/ubiquity/apt-setup/generators/01setup: 7: cannot open /target/etc/apt/sources.list: No such file11:20
turtle4464cjwatson: what should i do?11:22
davmor2evand: wubi is stuck at 80% Configuring apt11:35
davmor2I click the skip button but it's doing nothing :(11:35
evanddavmor2: what do the logs say?11:35
davmor2I'll check in a second11:35
evandspecifically, /var/log/installer/debug and /var/log/syslog11:35
evandgreat, thanks11:35
turtle4464evand: my installer stops at 80% as well with the error ubuntu ubiquity: /usr/lib/ubiquity/apt-setup/generators/01setup: 7: cannot open /target/etc/apt/sources.list: No such file11:39
evandturtle4464: can you please pastebin full logs (/var/log/installer/debug and /var/log/syslog)11:41
davmor2evand: I can't see anything horrific here http://www.davmor2.co.uk/wubi/syslog11:41
evandyou both seem to have the same problem11:43
* evand investigates11:43
turtle4464evand: is there any way to force it to install?11:45
cpihello. i have two problems installing karmic to an AoE disk.11:46
cpifirst: the installer, doesn't recognice /dev/ether/e* as block device. if i do a symlink from sda to ether/e0.0 i can partition the aoe disk but get an error during base system installation.11:47
evandturtle4464: no.  Have you tried installing from the beta?11:47
turtle4464evand: yes, it wont install, cjwatson was wanting me to test today's release11:48
davmor2evand: did you get that link before we were all rudely netsplit :)11:50
evandturtle4464: I'll ask that cjwatson direct you further.  I don't want to suggest you try to install a previous release if he's keen to see if your bug is fixed.11:50
turtle4464ok11:51
evanddavmor2: yes11:51
davmor2cool11:51
evandcjwatson: in Lucid do you think we should show the slideshow in oem-config?11:54
turtle4464evand: do you know how to fix the error i am getting?11:54
evandturtle4464: not yet.  I'm investigating it, but I don't have an estimated time for a fix.11:55
davmor2evand: No!  Oem's don't care and the enduser won't see it all unless you eek out their install process11:55
evanddavmor2: I think you misunderstand.  End users would see it.11:56
davmor2evand: all of it though?11:56
evandWell that's the catch.  The install process for oem-config is significantly shorter than the one for ubiquity.11:56
davmor2evand: that's what I mean.  You'd either need to create an uber fast one or a shorter one at which point it just gets silly12:04
davmor2evand: do you want me to reboot and see if anything shows up in the wubi log?12:07
evanddavmor2: nothing post-reboot from Windows will show up in the wubi log, as nothing writes to it at that point, unless you mean installation-logs.zip.12:12
evandthe Wubi log is just for the Windows program12:13
cjwatsonturtle4464: can you get the full /var/log/syslog and /var/log/partman files out for me, please?12:19
cjwatsonlet's confirm that you and davmor2 really have the same problem12:20
cjwatsonevand: hmm, tricky problem isn't it, I'm not sure12:20
cjwatsonevand: this may be my fault, I changed apt-setup to do progress info12:21
cjwatsonevand: apparently I didn't add PROGRESS to the apt-setup component's questions though - maybe that's it?12:21
davmor2cjwatson: Is this for wubi?12:36
davmor2if so I can tell you that pressing on the skip button does nothing12:37
cjwatsondavmor2: it's speculation ;-)12:39
davmor2cjwatson: would be nice if you wanted to apply a fix and respin.  I could re-test this afternoon then and maybe we could have a working wubi wow that really would be a first :)12:43
cjwatsonstill rsyncing myself, if evand's already on it he'll be quicker12:44
* davmor2 offers to drop down with a cd if it's faster 12:45
cjwatsonmy ADSL sucks but I'm not sure it's quite that bad :)12:47
cjwatsonI did prevail on Ian Jackson once to bring me a DVD by sneakernet, but that was a bit more substantial12:48
ogracjwatson, i'm just testing my SD card netinstaller, it works fine so far, i'm in pkgsel now (right after tasksel and it is installing ubuntu-desktop atm) and it seems logging only shows the error messages ... i dont see it installing stuff in the log... is that wanted ?12:52
davmor2:D12:53
ograthings like "Obsolete Command TITLE ..." or "creating user: haldaemon" etc12:53
ograoh, i spoke to early now it spits out something that looks as usual12:55
davmor2ogra: does it look like a wee timorous beastie with big pointy teeth?12:56
cjwatsonit can take a while for apt to get round to things sometimes12:56
turtle4464cjwatson: http://pastebin.ca/160102412:57
davmor2right lunch. cjwatson if you get anything together let me know :)12:58
ogradavmor2, nah, its a babbage board they cant produce anything that looks scary :)12:59
cjwatsonturtle4464: ok, yeah, same as davmor2 then, thanks - we'll get a new build out ASAP13:09
evandcjwatson: I don't think it's a matter of progress support.  The error message is /target/etc/apt/sources.list not existing.13:11
cjwatsonevand: are you sure that's actually what's breaking it though? I think that message is normal13:12
evandah, fair enough13:13
evandOct  7 08:22:38 debconf (filter): <-- DATA debconf-apt-progress/preparing type text13:24
evandOct  7 08:22:38 debconf (filter): ignoring unknown (multi-line?) command13:24
evandI stand corrected :)13:24
cjwatsongosh, did we really never implement DATA in debconffilter?13:43
evandheh, I guess not13:51
CIA-33debian-installer: cjwatson * r1188 ubuntu/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Move Dove images to 2.6.31-206 kernels.14:36
turtle4464cjwatson: im at work right now, but just wondering if a new image has been made to test14:50
cjwatsonnot yet14:55
cjwatsonevand: how goes?14:55
evandworking through adding DATA in debconffilter14:55
turtle4464cjwatson: i'm at work for the next 12 hours, so i might just try tomorrow's daily build, if thats ok14:56
cjwatsonturtle4464: yeah, probably best. Thanks for the attempt today and sorry it didn't work out14:57
turtle4464no problem cjwatson, if worst comes to worst, i might only be able to get time to try it out saturday morning, but i know you aren't here on weekends :s14:57
turtle4464gotta run, thanks again, will talk to you when i get the chance14:59
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lbt_hi... having some issues with preseed. I can't get the installer to ask me d-i passwd/user-uid. I've set it to "seen false" and debconf/priority is high16:42
cjwatsonit's never asked16:43
cjwatsonyou can't do that16:43
cjwatsonit's only provided for preseeding - there's no interactive component16:43
lbt_ah... I'm setting up desktops for different users16:48
lbt_mmm ... so I'd could enter it at kernel prompt16:49
cjwatsonyeah16:49
cjwatsonthough wouldn't LDAP be slightly less painful to maintain?16:49
cjwatsonif you need uids to be distinct, you'll probably want them in some central database anyway16:49
lbt_Oh, I've told them...16:50
lbt_I have ldap on a VM16:50
lbt_with gosa and luma16:50
lbt_they like it16:50
lbt_but.... usb install first16:50
lbt_<grin>16:50
evandcjwatson: is this really as simple as http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/287911/ or can you think of a situation where further processing would be needed?17:07
evanderr stick a return True on that, obviously17:07
evandbad mental copy and paste job out of KVM17:08
cjwatsonevand: am I missing a reason why we don't need PROGRESS in AptSetup.prepare? is it implicitly handled by Install.prepare already?17:12
cjwatsonevand: I suspect the main test is whether it works :)17:12
cjwatsonevand: also, I'd have thought you'd need to call self.db.command too - any reason not to just omit the second hunk of that diff and let it fall through to the general command handling at the end?17:14
cjwatson(i.e. the real debconf frontend probably needs to see the DATA command)17:14
evandcjwatson: I added PROGRESS to aptsetup.prepare as well.  Apologies, I forgot I did that.17:21
cjwatsonah, ok. I can't remember whether it's necessary :)17:22
evandcjwatson: because it gets noisy about the template already having a type, if memory serves17:22
evandbut perhaps that's just me getting things confused in my head17:23
evandI'll poke at it some more tonight or tomorrow morning17:23
evandas I have to head out in a few minutes17:23
cjwatsonhmm, oh, well, I suppose it is using the same debconf database17:23
cjwatsonmore or less17:23
cjwatsonit probably won't actually break anything to have it not pass through the DATA17:24
cjwatson(I don't think)17:24
cjwatsonif it works, I'd just go ahead and commit it if I were you, since it's an installation-breaker17:24
evandokay17:28
evandwill do17:28
CIA-33ubiquity: evand * r3510 ubiquity/ (3 files in 3 dirs):17:31
CIA-33ubiquity: Handle DATA commands in debconffilter. Support PROGRESS in the apt-17:31
CIA-33ubiquity: setup component (LP: #445385).17:31
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=== robbiew-afk is now known as robbiew
turtle4464cjwatson: is there a fix out?21:22
turtle4464sorry, just jumping on quickly at work21:22
SuspectZerohey there.21:57
SuspectZeroi have an ubuntu based distro which has a customized ubiquity installer. i was wondering how i could utilize lupin-casper and lupin-support so that the iso can be loop mounted?21:59
cjwatsonso, as I said on #grub, first try installing those packages in your live filesystem21:59
cjwatsonthere's a decent chance that will just work; we don't do anything much more complex than that ourselves22:00
SuspectZerook i'll do it again22:00
SuspectZeromaybe i screwed somethign up :)22:00
cjwatsonactually, you don't need lupin-support in the live filesystem, I don't think22:00
cjwatsonalthough it does help with getting grub-mkconfig to emit the right grub.cfg bits22:00
cjwatsonthis is a bit in flux, you do need *very* current karmic packages22:00
SuspectZeroam i in over my head if i dont know wht karmic packages are?22:01
SuspectZeroXD22:01
mdkehi there. I appreciate it's not a support channel but you may be able to help when #ubuntu couldn't. Are there any risks associated with using my gnupg or ssh key from a persistent live usb created with usb-creator (using the default "ubuntu" user)22:30
cjwatsonSuspectZero: hmm, if you aren't already using karmic (our current development branch) then this may not work very well22:45
cjwatsonSuspectZero: grub2 *exists* in 9.04 (jaunty), but it's not all that well integrated22:45
SuspectZeroi honestly dont even know what karmic is, i'll have to figure out if the distro im modding actually does22:46
cjwatsonmdke: only that the USB drive is small and portable and thus easy to steal, but presumably you'd protect it; I can't think of any intrinsic risks22:46
cjwatsonmdke: well, apparmor's disabled on the live system, so you might want to be a bit more careful than usual about malware22:47
cjwatsonmdke: that's the only thing that comes to mind really22:47
mdkecjwatson: ok, that's very helpful. I wonder if I can password protect the liveusb in some way22:47
SuspectZerobrb reboot22:48
CIA-33ubiquity: cjwatson * r3511 ubiquity/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):22:48
CIA-33ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: debian-installer-utils22:48
CIA-33ubiquity: 1.70ubuntu2, partman-target 64ubuntu3.22:48
cjwatsonmdke: you could change the ubuntu user's password in the persistent image, although that could be defeated22:48
* mdke nods22:48
mdkethere is no equivalent of a "bios" password for the usb drive I guess22:48
cjwatsonmdke: or you could set a boot loader password; I know that can be done in syslinux, but I don't know exactly how22:48
mdkeok, I'll google around tomorrow22:49
mdkethanks very much22:49
cjwatsonthere's doc/menu.txt in the syslinux package22:49
mdkecjwatson: ok, thanks again22:50
SuspectZeroback22:50
CIA-33ubiquity: cjwatson * r3512 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.99.3123:17

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