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directhexmicahg, what does it say will be removed?00:13
micahgidk00:14
micahgno packages afaik00:14
micahghow can I see what the changes will be?00:14
directhexum, aptitude lists all changes along with the space usage change00:15
micahgdirecthex: just for gurb00:15
micahg*grub00:15
james_wmicahg: bug 44470300:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 444703 in grub "package grub 0.97-29ubuntu57 failed to install" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44470300:19
micahgjames_w: that's the update00:19
Amaranthmicahg: Was a bug that grub used so much space, bug was fixed :)00:20
micahgah, so that version is actually using > 500MB of space?00:20
james_wread the description00:20
james_w"there was more than 1G of space before the upgrade started"00:21
micahgok, I'll do it then00:21
macodid someone upload OOo again or something?ive been watching the "time til start" climb on a build for a while. it was 2 hr about 5 hr ago. now its 7 hr :P00:41
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quidnuncpysupport-movemodules: error: debian/python-musicdns is not a directory02:22
quidnunc^ Anyone know what I get that error?02:22
quidnunc(when building)02:22
ScottKmicahg: Link me a bug number with a debdiff when you are ready.02:39
micahgwhat do I need to put in the bug?02:39
micahgScottK: ^^^02:56
ari-tczewScottK perhaps mean about bug number here like this: bug #42788602:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 427886 in kadu "[FFe] Sync kadu 0.6.5.3-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42788602:58
micahgari-tczew: it's a FTBFS02:58
ari-tczewI see that you've got epiphany-browser in your ppa03:01
micahgthat's not the right one...03:01
micahgkvpnc is the one I tried to fix03:01
ari-tczewI asked here yesterday what about -gecko and gecko is dead, just support -webkit03:02
ari-tczewit's FYI03:02
micahgyes, I know, I touched the EOL bug :)03:03
micahg-browser is now -webkit03:03
micahgor rather replaces -webkit03:03
ari-tczewmicahg: open a new bug about FTBFS, attach a debdiff and buildlog, subscribe motu-release :>03:03
micahgok, thanks ari-tczew03:03
ari-tczewOK, nice03:04
ari-tczewnp03:04
ScottKmicahg: A description of the problem and then a diff, preferably debdiff of the fix as an attachment.03:04
micahgScottK: can I use the debdiff that the PPA made?03:04
ScottKmicahg: Should at least get things in the ball park.03:04
ari-tczewI guess no, if you've got *~ppa version in debian/changelog. Correct me if I'm wrong ;-)03:05
micahgari-tczew: I can edit that out :)03:06
ScottKari-tczew: That's why I said in the ball park instead of yes.03:06
ari-tczewwhat is a ball park?03:07
ScottKAnd micahg is right, as long as you don't change the number of lines in a diff, editing individual lines is pretty easy03:07
ScottKSorry, Americanism.03:07
* ScottK forgets sometimes.03:07
ScottKIt mean something is close to the right answer03:07
ari-tczewehh, nevermind03:08
micahgScottK: do I mark as patch?03:09
ScottKYes03:09
ari-tczewScottK: Can I send packages from my karmic desktop to ppa, but build for jaunty?03:09
ScottKYes.  Put jaunty in your debian/changelog entry for the upload03:10
micahgScottK: done...bug 44507303:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 445073 in kvpnc "FTBFS for 0.9.3-1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44507303:10
ari-tczewthen package on jaunty will works fine?03:11
micahgScottK: thanks for your help and patience03:11
ScottKmicahg: No, thank you for working on making Ubuntu better.03:11
micahgari-tczew: it will build using the jaunty dependencies if jaunty is the version set in the topmost changelog entry03:12
ari-tczewOK03:13
micahgI might try to fix another FTBFS later tonight03:13
ScottKExcellent.03:14
micahgdo they all need to be fixed before release?03:14
micahgI'm guessing the main ones should come first, right?03:15
ScottKYes, although you can also reasonably assume that someone else will look at the ones in Main before release.03:16
ScottKI'd concentrate on Universe because those might not otherwise get looked at.03:17
micahgok03:17
ScottKmicahg: They don't all NEED to be fixed, but we want to get as many as we can.03:17
TechnovikingHow do I see the changelog on a updated Ubuntu package?03:19
ari-tczewdebian/changelog ?03:19
micahgTechnoviking: aptitude changelog PKGNAME03:19
ari-tczewwww interface: http://packages.ubuntu.com/03:20
micahgScottK: merge failed for pkg-kde-tools about a month ago03:23
micahghttps://merges.ubuntu.com/p/pkg-kde-tools/REPORT03:24
micahgI'm guessing that merges are out now unless there's an ffe, right?03:24
ari-tczewScottK: could you review bug #431080 for check whether debdiff is correct?03:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 431080 in drupal5 "Drupal 5.20 released to fix critical security vulnerability" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43108003:24
micahgScottK: should I report a bug in debian about the debhelper call for kvpnc03:27
ScottKmicahg: Probably.  Let me finish reviewing this first.03:28
micahgok03:28
ScottKI'm doing several things at once, so it may be a little while.03:28
micahgok, just ping me if you want me to file something03:30
ScottKWill do03:30
micahgor comment the bug03:30
ScottKOK03:30
micahgthanks03:30
ScottKari-tczew: Just reading the source it looks reasonable.03:41
ari-tczewI can prepare debdiff for all ubuntu's03:43
ari-tczewjust talk, is it debdiff looks right?03:44
ScottKari-tczew: It looks right.  Don't do the README.Source for the earlier releases.  Those should be minimal.03:44
ScottKAlso did you read the security team wiki on how they want debian/changelog formatted?03:44
ari-tczewI did read, that for earlier releases debian/changelog needs format: [release]-security03:46
ari-tczewe.g. jaunty-security03:46
ari-tczewkarmic before final release doesn't need -security?03:46
ScottKThat's correct03:48
ari-tczewlater I'll prepare debdiffs for the rest releases03:50
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ScottKmicahg: My laptop developed a serioux X related issue, so sponsoring is off for tonight.  I haven't forgotten you.05:10
micahgok, just let me know if I need anything els05:15
micahge05:15
andolfabrice_sp: Thanks for the quick sponsoring of bug #436035. I understood (and appreciated) most of the feedback, expect the last part about splitting the modifciation into two patches. What two diffrent changes where you thinking of?06:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 436035 in rdiff-backup "Annoying deprecation warning" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43603506:22
fabrice_spandol, the one that comes from upstream, and the one you added06:23
fabrice_spshell=true06:23
fabrice_spbecause it does not comes from upstream, IIRC06:23
andolGot it now, thanks06:24
fabrice_spyw :-)06:33
pwnguindoko__: new eclipse? yay!06:35
dholbachgood morning07:18
lodderHi, can I ask questions about launchpad ppa here07:27
dholbachlodder: is the issue about packaging or about the ppa?07:29
dholbachlodder: if it's the latter, #launchpad might help more07:29
lodderdholbach: well it's an issue about packaging using ppa07:29
lodderdholbach: here is the build log: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33204464/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.time-drive_0.3-1~karmic1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz07:29
dholbachlodder: what's the issue?07:29
lodderdholbach: it doesn't build that the issue , but when I build it unsigned local i have no issue07:30
lodderdholbach: make: *** [debian/python-module-stampdir/time-drive] Error 107:30
lodderdpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 207:30
lodderI don't know what I can do about it07:30
dholbachright07:31
lodderdholbach: can you help me?07:31
dholbachcan you check the setup.py and try running it manually?07:31
lodderoke07:31
dholbachlike   fakeroot ./setup.py build   or whatever setup.py call is failing there07:31
lodderI know what it is07:31
lodderI use an envirement variable in setup.py07:32
dholbachthis call fails too:07:32
lodderdamn I'm going to need to solve it :(07:32
dholbachcd . && python setup.py clean -a07:32
dholbachmake: [python-module-clean/time-drive] Error 1 (ignored)07:32
dholbachlodder: all the best with fixing it07:32
lodderthx :(07:32
lodderhow am i going to do that :(07:33
lodderok07:33
loddergot a solution ;)07:33
dholbachcan you do a   if not os.getenv("bla"):  <make a different clever decision here> ? :)07:33
lodderdholbach: well i made a template and @ build of source i sed it07:38
lodderdholbach: If i could the the version number of the folder yes that would be create as clever decision here07:39
micahgcan you have multiple DisplayIf statements in an update notifier script?08:38
tonyyarussoCould someone help me with basic diff/patch usage?  I'm trying to apply a bunch of changes from one person's set of code to another, just in flat directories.09:18
tonyyarussoI keep getting can't find file to patch at input line 209:20
tonyyarussoPerhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?09:20
joaopintotonyyarusso, you need to use -p level, depending on how the patch was generated09:21
tonyyarussojoaopinto: The patch was actually generated on my own system.  I tried using -p0.09:22
joaopintotonyyarusso, it is not about the system, but about the directory structure from where the diff command was issue to the changed files09:22
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tonyyarussoWell, the situation is that I have two directories, /usr/share/drupal-6-current/sites/ubuntu-minnesota.org/themes/ubuntu-drupal-theme/ and /home/anthony/ubuntu-drupal/ - I want to make a patch and then use it to apply the changes present in the home copy to the usr/share copy.  (I could just copy the files, but I want to know how to do it this way)09:24
tonyyarussoThe diff command I used was 'diff -r /usr/share/drupal-6-current/sites/ubuntu-minnesota.org/themes/ubuntu-drupal-theme/ /home/anthony/ubuntu-drupal/ > ubuntu-drupal-theme.diff' from within /home/anthony/09:25
joaopintotonyyarusso, look at the .diff header09:25
joaopinto-p N, will remove N elements from the path described on the header09:25
tonyyarussoerr, header?09:26
joaopintoerm, each diff section has an header, which describes the file the changes applies to09:27
tonyyarussoThe first line is 'diff -r /usr/share/drupal-6-current/sites/ubuntu-minnesota.org/themes/ubuntu-drupal-theme/block.tpl.php /home/anthony/ubuntu-drupal/block.tpl.php' if that's what you mean.09:27
tonyyarussookay, yeah09:27
tonyyarussoSince I'm keeping the files in exactly those places, wouldn't I want to not remove anything?09:27
joaopintoI have never used diff with absolute pathnames09:29
tonyyarussohrm09:29
tonyyarussoIt should also work to cd to /usr/share/drupal-6-current/sites/ubuntu-minnesota.org/themes/ubuntu-drupal-theme/ and use patch -p8, correct?09:30
tonyyarusso(it doesn't - gah)09:31
surfzoidHi, synaptic give you the choice to see an screen shot, this feature is in dsc file ? how that work ?09:40
joaopintosurfzoid, it uses http://screenshots.debian.net/09:41
joaopintois not packaging related09:41
surfzoidjoaopinto: ho so i just need to update an screenshot here with the same name of my soft ?09:42
surfzoid**upload09:42
joaopintoafaik, yes09:42
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surfzoidhey, the software name need to be in the debian database ?09:44
surfzoidjoaopinto: ^ :-)09:47
joaopintosurfzoid, read the how to upload instructions, but yes I guess the package needs to be already in Debian09:59
surfzoidi read them yes10:00
surfzoidbut they don't speak about that10:00
joaopintoit's kind of implicit10:01
surfzoidyes i guess10:01
skwashdhi all11:19
skwashdi am not sure if this is the right place ... but here i go anyway11:19
skwashdif i want to have a nightly build of some packages run ... and sign them to keep apt happy11:20
skwashdhow is the best way to do it?11:20
skwashdnm ... figured it out ... strip the passphrase from the key11:21
falehi12:31
falesomeone can review this, please? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xwpe/+bug/44409612:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 444096 in xwpe "XWPE has problems with pointer" [Wishlist,Confirmed]12:33
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ScottKNCommander: Any suggestions on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fgfs-atlas/0.3.1-1ubuntu1/+build/1276629/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-armel.fgfs-atlas_0.3.1-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz15:46
NCommanderScottK, abandon all hope?15:48
ScottKNCommander: Right, well that's a given.15:48
NCommanderScottK, the compiler doing something it shouldn't, but without looking at the source indepth, I'm not sure what that is15:49
jbernard_if anyone wants to upload something awesome, I've attached a patch that fixes bug #44550115:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 445501 in gbdfed "gbdfed FTBFS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44550115:54
iulianjbernard_: Looking.16:02
iulianEr, it takes 10 minutes to open a page.16:04
* iulian hits the refresh button.16:04
superm1siretart, how come ffmpeg-extra doesn't have faac support?16:14
superm1mplayer and mencoder both do16:15
superm1no faac support is unfortunately rendering rhpot1991's mythexport16:15
siretart`superm1: see bug #37490016:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 374900 in faac "Libfaac not LGPL" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37490016:38
siretart`superm1: AFAIUI, libfaac binaries are actually unredistributable, as they are essentially a (LGPL licensed) patchset based upon the aac reference implementation, which itself is non-free16:40
superm1siretart`, then shouldn't mplayer and mencoder not link against it either?16:40
siretart`in that case, we should remove it immediately from the archive, but before doing something stupid, one would need to investigate the issue more closely16:40
siretart`superm1: most probably not, right.16:40
superm1rhpot1991, ^ well that answers your situation, i guess you'll have to drop AAC support from mythexport16:41
siretart`I just didn't find the time to investigate the faac issue properly. I've spent too much time already on getting ffmepg and mplayer in shape for karmic (and they still aren't IMO) :(16:41
superm1too bad :(16:42
siretart`I still do hope that I did misunderstand things here. however, I failed to reach upstream16:42
rhpot1991unfortunate, hopefully I can just deal with mp3 instead16:43
siretart`so if anyone knows how to contact them, please do so16:43
siretart`avcodec also has an internal aac encoder, perhaps you can use that one?16:43
rhpot1991siretart`: libavcodec-extra-5216:44
rhpot1991 right?16:44
siretart`the aac encoder should be enable in both libavcodec52 and libavcodec-extra-52.16:45
siretart`the -extra- package just enables the wrappers for extra (i.e. non-ffmpeg-internal) libraries16:45
rhpot1991siretart`: happen to know what the -acodec flag is for aac when using avcodec?16:50
siretart`rhpot1991: you can list the available codecs with 'ffmpeg -formats'16:52
siretart`rhpot1991: if you don't have the 'ffmpeg' package installed, see /usr/share/doc/libavcodec52/formats.txt.gz16:52
siretart`(the -extra- package has a similar file for comparison)16:52
rhpot1991siretart1`: D  aac raw ADTS AAC16:54
rhpot1991, meanse Decrypt only right?16:54
siretart`yes16:55
rhpot1991ya that wont help much then16:55
siretart`oh, hrmpf. I would need to investigate why the internal aac encoder isn't enabled. perhaps 0.5 is just to old and one would need to backport libavcodec/aacenc.c from trunk...16:56
rhpot1991siretart`: ya if I could encode with that then I'd be fine16:56
rhpot1991want me to open up a bug on that?16:56
siretart`rhpot1991: feel free, but don't expect me to work on that for karmic.17:04
rhpot1991siretart`: ok17:05
james_wanyone up for a ftbfs fixing session?17:19
james_wa collaborative debugging/teaching/sponsoring session?17:20
RainCTjames_w: I'm doing a series of blog posts about that (in Catalan) :P17:22
james_wexcellent :-)17:22
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jbernard_james_w: im in17:55
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james_wI'm working from http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20090909-karmic.html17:56
james_wI'm about to upload ggz-server17:57
jbernard_james_w: yep, ive been working on that for a few days now17:57
james_wcool17:57
james_wthe patch was already in the Debian BTS: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=50497217:57
ubottuDebian bug 504972 in ggz-server "FTBFS with GCC 4.4: missing #include" [Unknown,Open]17:57
jbernard_ive got a patch for gpgoffice17:58
james_wjbernard_: would you like me to sponsor?18:00
jbernard_that would be awesome, shall i file a bug and attach the diff?18:00
james_wpatch over IRC would be fine18:02
james_wfeel free to use a bug to get file hostin18:02
jbernard_im on it18:03
jbernard_james_w: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/287958/18:07
james_whmm18:08
james_wisn't that a bad cast?18:08
james_wI'm assuming TRANSCRIPTION_ANSI is a static string?18:08
jbernard_yes, but they don't modify it18:08
james_whang on, isn't it18:09
james_w       char *strchr(const char *s, int c);18:09
james_w?18:09
jbernard_hang on, i made the patch a day or so ago, lemme take a closer look18:10
james_wah, it seems if you pass a const in the return should be a const18:17
jbernard_james_w: yeah, thats what i was thinkgn as well18:18
james_wdidn't know you could do that in C++18:18
james_wjbernard_: would you like to fix up the patch?18:18
jbernard_james_w: yep, that fixes it properly18:18
james_wjust changing the declaration of pu should work I think18:18
jbernard_ill repaste18:18
james_walso, if you could use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PatchTaggingGuidelines that would be great18:18
jbernard_ahh, sure18:19
james_wggz-server uploaded18:19
james_wI'm going to try my hand at libgtk2-perl18:20
james_wwhich might be a bad idea18:20
jbernard_nonsense, it's gonna be great18:20
jbernard_james_w: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/287984/18:30
james_wjbernard_: your patch tags suggest that you haven't forwarded the change :-)18:32
james_wwould you send the patch to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=gbgoffice ?18:32
jbernard_james_w: on it18:32
james_wnice18:32
james_wI'll testbuild in the meantime18:32
jbernard_james_w: done18:41
james_wjbernard_: thanks, it fails to build here as the patch fails to apply18:44
jbernard_james_w: ahh, it must be the patch tags18:44
james_wtabs->spaces in the file or something?18:44
jbernard_james_w: hmm, lemme check18:44
jbernard_james_w: the code indention should be tabbed18:44
jbernard_perhaps the paste lost some formatting, it applies fine for me18:45
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james_wah, that would do it18:46
jbernard_james_w: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=55011518:56
ubottuDebian bug 550115 in gbgoffice "FTBFS: invalid const conversion" [Normal,Open]18:56
james_wgot it18:56
james_wuploaded18:56
jbernard_thanks!18:56
james_wthanks for your contribution to Ubuntu :-)18:56
james_wI got half of the libgtk2-perl failure, but can't work out the other bit yet18:57
james_wis(($view -> get_cursor())[0] -> to_string(), "1:0");18:57
james_wCan't call method "to_string" on an undefined value at t/GtkTreeView.t line 233.18:57
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jbernard_still building...19:04
jbernard_james_w: i dont know about this one, xs/GtkTreeView.xs +500 suggests the value should be defined19:12
james_wyeah, "either may be undefined" suggest that it shouldn't be undef as it appears to be19:12
james_wah19:21
james_whttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=54561619:21
ubottuDebian bug 545616 in libgtk2-perl "libgtk2-perl: FTBFS: tests failed" [Serious,Closed]19:21
james_wshould have looked there to start with19:21
jbernard_nice19:21
james_wand there's a further upload to fix the other part of the issue19:22
james_wyay for the perl team19:22
jbernard_http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=50484519:22
ubottuDebian bug 504845 in freefem3d "FTBFS with GCC 4.4: missing #include" [Unknown,Open]19:22
jbernard_that'll fix freefem3d19:22
james_wI'll try syncing19:23
jbernard_not sure if it's been uploaded yet19:23
james_wdoesn't look like it19:24
james_wI'll queue that one up as well, thanks19:24
jbernard_no problem19:25
randomactionWhat happens to packages for which FTBFS isn't fixed? Are they excluded from the release?19:31
sistpotyrandomaction: no, they jus tstay unfixed :(19:38
randomactionso they just go with the old .debs?19:39
randomaction(if they exist)19:39
sistpotyyes19:39
geserrandomaction: and hope we don't need to do a SRU or security upload19:44
keesanything in main that FTBFS is an RC bug.19:45
randomactionyes, I've seen a number of such bugs opened by lamont today19:46
geserkees: should bugs be filed based on the archive rebuild test for those (after confirmation that they still FTBFS)?19:46
* sistpoty considers sponsoring the rc bug #438031 :)19:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 438031 in texlive-bin "texlive-bin won't compile against libpoppler 0.12" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43803119:47
sistpoty(fixes a FTBFS on the way)19:47
keesgeser: yeah, I think so.  check with ubuntu-release to be sure, though19:48
dhillon-v10hi all, I need some help with downloading a package (using dget) the program doesn't create a working directory by default19:56
randomactiondget -x or dpkg-source -x19:57
dhillon-v10<randomaction> hi, I did that I am trying to get the source of speeddial here: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/speeddial/19:58
dhillon-v10<randomaction> terminal says that signature validation failed and then doesn't create a working directory19:59
jbernard_sistpoty: thank you for uploading gbdfed19:59
dhillon-v10gpg: Signature made Sun 21 Sep 2008 09:14:07 PM EDT using RSA key ID 140C666419:59
dhillon-v10gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found19:59
dhillon-v10Validation FAILED!!19:59
sistpotyjbernard_: thanks for the patch! :)19:59
joaopintodhillon-v10, if you want the source for a "current" package, just apt-get source instead19:59
dhillon-v10<joaopinto> this one's a bug in karmic and I don't have karmic, I am running jaunty20:00
joaopintoah ok :)20:00
joaopintodget -ux20:00
dhillon-v10let me try that :)20:00
joaopintodhillon-v10, actually, man dget :)20:01
dhillon-v10<joaopinto> I have done dget several times, if you read previous line I added the output of using dget alone20:01
dhillon-v10IT WORKED :) yay20:02
dhillon-v10thanks all and bye20:02
ni|if i am running an installer application as root and it has two components..an initscript and a user program -- the initscript starts after installation is complete; however, the user app does not because its still UID 0 in the installer; is there a way i can grab the UID that did the su or sudo so i can start the userland program from the installer that is running as UID 020:39
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asacanyone here running jaunty and uses a system connection for its wired in NM?22:11
asac:)22:11
slacker_nlasac: i know someone who does22:22
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