[00:54] <Crypia> Hello - Is there something new in server 9.10 that would prevent me from adding a startup symbolic link to a service/program by placing it in /etc/rc2.d ?
[00:54] <Crypia> I've tried adding a few scripts to the startup sequence but they aren't being executed for some reason...
[01:12] <smoser> kirkland, here now
[01:13] <kirkland> smoser: yo
[01:13] <smoser> you make any progress
[01:13] <kirkland> smoser: so UEC images aren't running for us
[01:13] <kirkland> smoser: no, not really
[01:14] <kirkland> smoser: how are you running/verifying these UEC images?
[01:14] <smoser> i haven't tried it but i remember that per ttx you have to run a larger instance to accomodate the large root fs.
[01:14] <smoser> mostly they're verified by ec2
[01:15] <smoser> ttx did test them on uec for beta
[01:15] <smoser> what is failing for you?
[01:16] <kirkland> smoser: specifically what size?
[01:16] <kirkland> smoser: they go straight from pending -> terminated
[01:16] <smoser> let me look.
[01:18] <smoser> bug 439868
[01:18] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 439868 in vm-builder "UEC images could be smaller" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439868
[01:18] <smoser> "needing m1.xlarge by default in UEC"
[01:19] <smoser> kirkland,
[01:20] <kirkland> smoser: okay, that's what i'm using
[01:20] <smoser> can you see console logs ?
[01:20] <smoser> what kernel/initramfs are you using ?
[01:21] <kirkland> smoser: everything from http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/beta/
[01:21] <kirkland> smoser: kernel, init, img, manifest
[01:21] <smoser> well, those were verified good by ttx for beta
[01:21] <smoser> :-(
[01:21] <kirkland> smoser: okay
[01:21] <smoser> can you see console output ?
[01:21] <kirkland> smoser: i'll get more info from him
[01:21] <kirkland> smoser: not at the moment
[01:21] <kirkland> smoser: right now, i'm not even getting to 'pending'
[01:21] <smoser> nothing via euca-get-console ?
[01:22] <smoser> oh. wow.
[01:22] <smoser> hm...
[01:22] <kirkland> smoser: $ euca-run-instances $EMI
[01:22] <kirkland> RESERVATION     None    None
[01:22] <kirkland> smoser: it was working earlier
[01:22] <erichammond> Is not being able to run a 10GB image considered a bug in Eucalyptus since they aim to be API compatible with EC2?
[01:22] <smoser> hmphh.
[01:23] <smoser> well, it *can* run it (in theory), but needs m1.xlarge.
[01:23] <smoser> but yeah, it really should be
[01:26] <kirkland> smoser: okay, i think i see the problem
[01:26] <erichammond> smoser: If it's really a matter of a few blocks, it wouldn't hurt EC2 users much cut back a few bytes so it runs on both.
[01:27] <smoser> erichammond, in that bug there is a resize script. its fairly trivial to resize before upload.
[01:27] <smoser> less than ideal, but not terribly intrusive.  it is a pita, though, to unzip those things.
[01:28] <erichammond> smoser: coolio.  Well, that's the extent of my Eucalyptus interest for the month.
[01:30] <smoser> kirkland, ?
[01:30] <smoser> i've got to run in maybe 5 minutes max
[01:30] <kirkland> smoser: i'll check with ttx tomorrow
[01:41] <uvirtbot> New bug: #445028 in net-snmp (main) "Intermittent segfault in var_hrswrun" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445028
[02:01] <aubre> hi, I have been testing Eucalyptus with 2 ncs and 1 front-end - do we still need people to test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcx8HZWSYB8 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0wc4LCSqHI ?
[02:02] <aubre> will be afk to tend to my son but will come back in a little
[02:45] <twb> Is the NIS client broken in 9.04?  I have two OpenVZ VMs, one 8.04 and one 9.04, and NIS is only working in the former.
[03:06] <uvirtbot> New bug: #445064 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package libmysqlclient16 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445064
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[05:02] <osmosis> im kinda bugged that apt-get has never offered the same easy to read information about packages that gentoo's emerge does.
[05:15] <Zelut> anyone available to help with an EC2 issue? (I'm doing testing as invited by jcastro)
[05:23] <Zelut> I've started an instance and I'm then trying to connect to it using "Using the external host name that was listed as a result of the ec2-describe-instances command", but I don't see any such hostname.. or perhaps I just don't recognize it.
[05:39] <uvirtbot> New bug: #444926 in samba (main) "samba and smbfs depend on an old version of samba-common" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/444926
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[06:20] <twb> To answer my own question: no, jaunty isn't broken wrt nis.  It is broken wrt ifup -a
[06:20] <twb> Because for some reason /var/run is a tmpfs, and /var/run/network doesn't get created after the tmpfs is mounted, ifup -a refuses to do anything because it can't write /var/run/network/ifstate
[06:25] <twb> RAMRUN=no in /etc/default/tmpfs ought to fix this...
[06:25] <twb> Woo, at last.
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[07:17] <drurew_> can anyone point me to the app that controlls my ports please? I need to free port 25 for an installer, teroreticly nothing is running on that port...I still need to free it up , thanks
[07:20] <twb> drurew_: what installer?  Sounds like something utterly broken
[07:21] <drurew_> its called isightserver and at the momment it dosnt matter if it breaks since im desperate to get this job done
[07:21] <qman__> drurew_,  all ports are "free" and unblocked by default, so there must be a program you enabled using it
[07:21] <qman__> you can pin down what's using it with netstat
[07:21] <drurew_> the server is a fresh install without lamp or actually anything
[07:21] <drurew_> yeah according to netstat its free
[07:21] <qman__> then it is free
[07:21] <qman__> and there's a bug in whatever program you're trying to use
[07:22] <drurew_> ima just try and edit the installer
[07:22] <qman__> keep in mind, binding to ports below 1024 requires root access
[07:23] <drurew_> I know
[07:23] <drurew_> thanks qman
[07:23] <qman__> no problem, hope you get it working
[07:33] <Deven2> Hi.  I'm trying to get UserDir set up so that say http://myserver/~username/ points to /home/username/www but i cant seem to get it to work I added th lines "UserDir enabled username" and "UserDir www" to my apache2.conf file is this the right thing? it gives me some error about not being able to find the module when I try to restart the server but it seems to be installed.
[07:37] <Shubuntu> hi, I'm having difficulty setting locale, can anyone help me please?
[07:37] <Shubuntu> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/287606/
[07:40] <jmarsden> Shubuntu: Read line 12 of your pastebin.  There is no such package as locale-conf -- so why are you trying to reconfigure it?
[07:41] <Shubuntu> because i installed nano and perl gave me warnings
[07:41] <Shubuntu> it says that setting locale failed
[07:41] <qman__> Deven2, did you enable the module in apache? sudo a2enmod module_name
[07:42] <qman__> Shubuntu, install the language pack for your locale
[07:42] <jmarsden> But what makes you think running dpkg-reconfigure against a non-existent package will fix anything?  What are you *really* trying to do here?
[07:44] <Shubuntu> thanks, installing language-pack-en seems to do the trick
[08:14] <Shubuntu> guys what is the best most secure free account manager for apache?
[08:19] <Boohbah> Shubuntu: /bin/bash
[08:20] <Shubuntu> i need something web based so i can give to my users to go manage their sites
[08:20] <Shubuntu> don't wanna give them ssh access
[08:21] <_ruben> !best
[08:21] <ubottu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[08:21] <Boohbah> well, cpanel is the best, but it's not free
[08:21] <Shubuntu> i tried ispconfig, it had a lot of hype about it, but it's got too many holes
[08:22] <Boohbah> just pay for cpanel, it's the best
[08:22] <Shubuntu> hence why i'm asking to see if someone who has more experience would recommend something else
[08:22] <Shubuntu> i might do that later, but for now i want something free and secure
[08:22] <Shubuntu> it doesn't have to have a lot of features
[08:22] <Shubuntu> just to let them add new users
[08:22] <Boohbah> i work at a web hosting provider, trust me, cpanel is the best
[08:22] <Shubuntu> new email
[08:23] <Shubuntu> stuff like that
[08:24] <henkjan> Shubuntu: have a look at openpanel
[08:25] <Shubuntu> ok thanks
[08:42] <Shubuntu> where do you change the port at which mysql listens? in /etc/mysql/my.cnf?
[08:50] <Jeeves_> Shubuntu: That's an option, yes
[09:42] <uvirtbot> New bug: #445253 in vm-builder (universe) "libvirt.libvirtError: internal error no supported architecture for os type 'hvm'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445253
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[10:27] <uvirtbot> New bug: #408857 in openssh (main) "ssh-agent hangs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408857
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[11:17]  * soren lunches
[11:52] <Bilge> If you perform full disk encryption then how can it be possible to boot remotely?
[12:21] <soren> Bilge: An SSH server running from initramfs can wait for you to login and enter the decryption key.
[12:21] <soren> Bilge: I'm not sure this is something we offer currently. Dropbear does install itself into the initramfs, but I'm not sure if it can be used for this purpose.
[12:21] <uvirtbot> New bug: #445351 in openssh (main) "Console message on boot (before xsplash)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445351
[12:22] <Bilge> Oh :(
[12:22] <Bilge> My friend did it but he was not using Ubuntu
[12:22] <Bilge> Also I'm not longer in contact with said friend so I can't ask him about it
[12:28] <Bilge> Another thing I've been trying to do is enable kernel modules system in /proc/modules by replacing my host's modified kernel with the stock Ubuntu kernel
[12:28] <Bilge> I was told to install linux-image-server but unfortunately the whole apt update system is also routed via the host which does not provide one of the required files
[12:29] <Bilge> How can I replace my apt update sources with ubuntu community servers instead of my hosts update servers
[12:32] <spiekey> Hello!
[12:32] <spiekey> how can i change a mac address of a vlan?
[12:35] <_ruben> you dont .. a vlan takes the mac of its parent interface
[12:36] <Bilge> I think I need to find the default /etc/apt/source.lst
[12:36] <Bilge> .list*
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[13:26] <uvirtbot> New bug: #425670 in ntp (main) "Ntp did not syncronize" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/425670
[13:26] <uvirtbot> New bug: #427775 in ntp (main) "ntpdate.dhcp always ignored" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427775
[13:26] <uvirtbot> New bug: #429870 in ntp (main) "runlevel arguments (S) do not match LSB Default-Start values (3 4 5)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/429870
[13:32] <uvirtbot> New bug: #408910 in ntp (main) "ntpd service brakes VPN connection" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408910
[13:32] <uvirtbot> New bug: #416828 in openntpd (universe) "when removed to be replaced by openntpd, the ntp package leaves /etc/init.d/ntp leading to errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/416828
[13:33] <Shubuntu> hey guys my telnet cannot resolve, why's that?
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[13:34] <Shubuntu> telnet: could not resolve localhost/25: Name or service not known
[13:35] <_ruben> did you type "telnet localhost/25" ?
[13:35] <Shubuntu> i typed telnet localhost 25
[13:36] <_ruben> what does "host localhost" say ?
[13:37] <Shubuntu> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/287776/
[13:38] <_ruben> looks good
[13:38] <uvirtbot> New bug: #379930 in linux (main) "clock freezes when calling ntpdate (sometimes)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379930
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[13:44] <Shubuntu> _ruben, my hostname -i shows my external ip, is that ok?
[13:46] <uvirtbot> New bug: #235793 in ntp "Segmentation fault in ntpd when system has more than 1134 interface addresses" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/235793
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[13:51] <smoser> soren, fyi http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/message.jspa?messageID=147475 . i'm considering putting a file up on s3 so people can point to it with migrate-image to automatically select the right kernel when they (and we) migrate an image.
[13:51] <soren> Good idea!
[13:52] <soren> smoser: I've realised why Amazon don't let random people upload kernels and ramdisks and such, by the way.
[13:52] <soren> smoser: Well, I've thought of *a* reason why. I don't know if it's *the* reason why.
[13:52] <smoser> and you're going to keep that to yourself ?
[13:52] <soren> smoser: Heh :)
[13:53] <smoser> i've just figured increased instability in their dom0
[13:53] <soren> That's another reason.
[13:53] <soren> smoser: Images are stored in S3. To be able to run them, you need to set the ACL's accordingly.
[13:53] <soren> There are separate privileges for reading the image and for executing it.
[13:54] <smoser> is there more ? im missing something
[13:54] <soren> However... If people could upload their own kernel and ramdisk, anyone could effectively read the image if they could execute it, since they could put in a backdoor of sorts in the ramdisk or kernel.
[13:55] <soren> ..and I'm reasonably sure those ACL's are separate intentionally.
[13:55] <soren> It's not exactly a separation you're likely to introduce by accident.
[13:56] <uvirtbot> New bug: #229632 in ntp (main) "ntpd should run niced" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/229632
[13:56] <uvirtbot> New bug: #351980 in ntp (main) "ntptrace reports wrong results" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/351980
[13:57] <soren> smoser: I'm done now :)
[13:58] <smoser> so you're talking about someone being able to launch an image (ami) but not having the right to read it
[13:58] <smoser> and by having a kernel/initramdisk, they could essentially dd /dev/sda before /sbin/init ran
[13:59] <smoser> where /sbin/init could be doing some magic to obfuscate something.
[13:59] <smoser> i suppose that is legit.
[13:59] <smoser> however, i disagree with " not exactly a separation you're likely to introduce by accident"
[14:00] <smoser> as there is a fairly well established permissions scheme that separates them that they could have been modeling (man chmod)
[14:01] <uvirtbot> New bug: #315682 in ntp (main) "crashes on UPGRADE" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315682
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[14:07] <uvirtbot> New bug: #224499 in ntp (main) "Time synchronize results in running a local ntp server (dup-of: 445390)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/224499
[14:07] <uvirtbot> New bug: #244685 in ntp (main) "ntpd does not sufficiently log failures" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/244685
[14:07] <uvirtbot> New bug: #322518 in ntp (main) "No obvious way to prevent ntpdate to be run when interface are brought up" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/322518
[14:07] <uvirtbot> New bug: #426919 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 "thread_stack setting is too small" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/426919
[14:07] <soren> smoser: Yes, they may very well have been inspired by that, but it probably didn't just implement itself :)
[14:12] <uvirtbot> New bug: #351989 in ntp (main) "ntptrace man page is wrong" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/351989
[14:24] <Shubuntu> hey what do i need to add to my sources.list to be able to install courier? does anyone know
[14:25] <Pici> Shubuntu: courier-base is in the universe repositories
[14:25] <biosed> Hey all, quick question, I am planning on install apache2-worker and replacing prefork, will all my configs stay and is there any issues I should be aware of swaping them? (8.1 x64)
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[14:28] <Shubuntu> would you guys suggest using something other than courier then?
[14:33] <ScottK> Shubuntu: Dovecot is what is generally supported for a delivery agent and Postfix for MTA.
[14:34] <Shubuntu> ScottK So is Dovecot safer or courier
[14:34] <ScottK> Dovecot is better maintained, documented, and supported in Ubuntu, so if you are running Ubuntu Server, it's a better choice.
[14:35] <acalvo> Shubuntu: from my point of view (I've been using courier and dovecot with LDAP as backend and intregration with Postfix), dovecot is easier and better
[14:36] <Shubuntu> ok thanks
[14:42] <uvirtbot> New bug: #322511 in ntp (main) "Time is being adjusted by ntpdate even if you choose to manage time manually in System > Administration > Time and Date" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/322511
[14:46] <biosed> Hey all, quick question, I am planning on install apache2-worker and replacing prefork, will all my configs stay and is there any issues I should be aware of swaping them? (8.1 x64)
[14:46] <uvirtbot> New bug: #254375 in ntp (main) "SIGSEGV in ntpq " [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/254375
[14:46] <uvirtbot> New bug: #374896 in ntp (main) "Servers specified in ntp.conf are not carried into ntp.conf.dhcp" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374896
[14:47] <uvirtbot> New bug: #238805 in ntp (main) "ntpd doesn't work - time is not synchronized" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/238805
[14:55] <ivoks> zul: could you please take a look at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/drbd8/+bug/445453
[14:55] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 445453 in drbd8 "[FFE]: Please sync drbd8 2:8.3.3-0ubuntu1 (main) from PPA" [Undecided,New]
[14:56] <ivoks> zul: thanks
[14:56] <zul> ivoks: ubuntu-release needs to ack it first so ill subscribe them
[14:56] <ivoks> zul: ok
[14:57] <zul> ivoks: ive subscribe myself as well so when they get the ok ill upload it
[14:57] <ivoks> great, thanks
[14:57] <ivoks> there's newer version of drbd
[14:57] <ivoks> but it's for those lame distributions with old kernels :D
[14:57]  * ivoks runs and hides
[14:59] <ivoks> bbl
[15:01] <uvirtbot> New bug: #445453 in drbd8 (universe) "[FFE]: Please sync drbd8 2:8.3.3-0ubuntu1 (main) from PPA" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445453
[15:10] <refnumzx> I have a feisty system that I need to upgrade to hardy in prep for migration to 9.10.  This system cannot be down for any length of time so I need two things.  I need to be able to upgrade with out problems.  This is a server install so nothing doing for GUI stuff.  I need to back the system up and be able to restore it if something goes wrong.  I have backups which keep the data intact but I am unsure how to image the system so 
[15:11] <uvirtbot> New bug: #445442 in dhcp3 (main) "patch for appamor-profile of dhclient3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445442
[15:12] <AnirbanHazra>  http://216.245.204.244/ is prompting me to dwld the website instead of opening it on browser !
[15:17] <ScottK> refnumzx: You'll need to do a sequential upgrade Feisty -> Gutsy -> Hardy.  Gutsy is out of support also, but can be found at old-releases.ubuntu.com.
[15:17] <AnirbanHazra> how to install php in Ubuntu VPS ?
[15:21] <dasunsrule32> Is there a way to deny login for all users and groups, except for a specfic group?
[15:21] <toddobryan> I'm running an LTSP setup for a school lab and I currently am only using one of three servers because I can't figure out how to set up OpenLDAP. Can anybody help me out?
[15:22] <uvirtbot> New bug: #247218 in ntp (main) "ntpd messages interrupt fsck messages" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247218
[15:22] <kinnaz> hello, is this guide http://www.howtoforge.com/recompiling-php5-with-bundled-support-for-gd-on-ubuntu <-- outdated ? i get /bin/sh: line 10: --with-gd=shared: command not found , when i modify the debian/rules file like suggested
[15:32] <uvirtbot> New bug: #444454 in openssh (main) "Always need to run: source ~/.bashrc" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/444454
[15:34] <Shubuntu> proftpd-mod-pgsql: Depends: proftpd-basic (= 1.3.1-17ubuntu1) but it is not installable, help anyone?
[15:36] <dasunsrule32> Is there a way to deny access to login, unless the user is part of a specific group?
[15:37] <uvirtbot> New bug: #444479 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "missing apparmor access rule " [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/444479
[15:41] <uvirtbot> New bug: #444673 in bacula (universe) "package bacula-director-mysql 2.4.4-1ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso post-installation script devolvió el código de salida de error 1" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/444673
[15:42] <knecht> i need to use php5-sqlite3 on a intrepid ubuntu server. There is only a SQlite Version 2.8 package (php5-sqlite) in official sources. Where can i get a newer version? google does not help me . . .
[15:44] <knecht> Has someone a hint?
[15:46] <_ruben> !info php5-sqlite3
[15:46] <ubottu> Package php5-sqlite3 does not exist in jaunty
[15:46] <_ruben> heh
[15:47] <_ruben> !info php5-sqlite3 karmic
[15:47] <ubottu> Package php5-sqlite3 does not exist in karmic
[15:47] <_ruben> !info php5-sqlite4
[15:47] <ubottu> Package php5-sqlite4 does not exist in jaunty
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[15:50] <Xpistos|work> How should I access my server? SSH, VNC? What is the best and most resource intelligent way to work my file server?
[15:51] <knecht> Xpistos|work: want to you want to do? Admininistrate it? Copy files on it?
[15:51] <zul> jdstrand: ping I subscribed ubuntu-server to the bug contact for ntp as well
[15:52] <Pici> knecht: php5-sqlite depends on libsqlite0 and libsqlite3-0, I would suspect that it has sqlite2 and sqlite3 compatibility then.
[15:52] <Xpistos|work> knecht: Basically the server is there to be a file server. I could use smbfs or sshfs from my other systems even if there is no GUI on the server itself correct?
[15:53] <refnumzx> I have a feisty system that I need to upgrade to hardy in prep for migration to 9.10.  This system cannot be down for any length of time so I need two things.  I need to be able to upgrade with out problems.  This is a server install so nothing doing for GUI stuff.  I need to back the system up and be able to restore it if something goes wrong.  I have backups which keep the data intact but I am unsure how to image the system so 
[16:00] <knecht> Xpistos|work: correct.
[16:01] <knecht> Xpistos|work: you can admin your samba via ssh remote shell, and samba itself does the file transfers. No gui is needet on the server.
[16:02] <Xpistos|work> knecht: I am semi-comfortable enough with the command line and I want to use it when the next LTS comes out
[16:02] <knecht> Pici: i have php5-sqlite installed, it only works on version 2.x sqlite files.
[16:02] <Xpistos|work> knecht: Thanks for the advice!
[16:02] <knecht> Xpistos|work: your welcome
[16:03] <jdstrand> zul: ok
[16:03] <zul> jdstrand: just as a fyi
[16:04]  * jdstrand nods
[16:06] <knecht> Xpistos|work: admin samba means to connect via ssh to the server, and then edit /etc/samba/smb.conf to configure it to your needs. You also can open GUI Apps on your client (if it is linux) if your turn XForwarding on in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[16:06] <knecht> Xpistos|work: good console text editors are joe, emacs or vim (maybe you use joe, its like dos edit)
[16:07] <kinnaz> why people dont consider nano as good ?
[16:07] <Xpistos|work> knecht: I use nano
[16:12] <Mike_lifeguard> Do I need to set anything in /etc/hosts.allow to allow incoming ssh connections to my server?
[16:19] <Mike_lifeguard> bwahaha, IT WORKS >:D
[16:24] <uvirtbot> New bug: #406581 in bind9 (main) "package libdns45 1:9.5.1.dfsg.P2-1 failed to install/upgrade: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406581
[16:25] <soren> ttx: How long time does it take for Eucalyptus to start the UEC image the first time?
[16:26] <ttx> soren: depends on size of said image, and how fast your disks are
[16:26] <soren> ttx: The standard 10 GB image.
[16:26] <ttx> it also depends how soon after registration you try to run them :)
[16:26] <soren> ttx: Regular SATA disks... How long does it take for /you/?
[16:26] <soren> Heh :)
[16:27] <ttx> 12 minutes
[16:27] <soren> That's just the first time, though, right?
[16:27] <ttx> yes, after that it's pretty fast
[16:27] <soren> I believe they cache the disk image they stitch together based on the eMI.
[16:27] <ttx> also if you let the dust settle on the HD platters, it can be reasonably half that time
[16:28] <ttx> there is some encryption process going on after you register the emi
[16:28] <ttx> I'll tell you for my current test
[16:28] <ttx> 4G image, started 17:24:05
[16:30] <ttx> soren: booting at 17:29:50
[16:31] <uvirtbot> New bug: #445536 in php5 (main) "pear install fails without error message (downloaded go-pear is also affected)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445536
[16:32] <soren> ttx: Lovely, thank you.
[16:44] <uvirtbot> New bug: #444908 in eucalyptus "In SYSTEM mode + multicluster, instances do not run on multiple clusters" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/444908
[16:45] <zul> lamont: ping
[16:47] <uvirtbot> New bug: #444838 in eucalyptus "If the CC and CLC are on different machines, meta-data service is unreachable by nodes" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/444838
[16:47] <uvirtbot> New bug: #445206 in eucalyptus "remote bootstrap fails when walrus+sc are on the same host" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445206
[16:48] <lamont> zul: si?
[16:48] <zul> lamont: for bind9 patches do you rather see them fixed in debian first?
[16:49] <zul> lamont: bug #430358 supposedly fixes it
[16:49] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 430358 in bind9 "bind9 + DLZ core dumps on AFXR request" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430358
[16:51] <lamont> zul: sigh.  I'll scrape my bind9 bugs tonight and get an upload tossed into the blender
[16:51] <zul> lamont: cool thanks
[17:00] <jbernard_> kirkland: can a byobu module use bash instead of sh?
[17:01] <kirkland> jbernard_: hmm... i'd rather not, if possible... what can't you do in sh?
[17:02] <jbernard_> ill fix it, i was just wondering if there was an implicit requirement
[17:20] <oly_> hi, i am trying to compile a php module on hardy heron but get this error
[17:20] <oly_> dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: no dependency information found for /lib/libmysqlclient.so.15
[17:20] <oly_> sudo dpkg-buildpackage
[17:20] <RoyK> hm. is jeos available in 64bit somewhere?
[17:20] <RoyK> I can only find the i386 iso
[17:20] <oly_> running that to build the package, anyone any suggestions on what that means or could be ?
[17:30] <aubre> kudos to the people working on Eucalyptus karmic integration, I followed these excellent posts here http://fnords.wordpress.com/2009/10/04/run-your-own-uec-part-1/ and here http://fnords.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/run-your-own-uec-part-2/ by Thierry Carrez and it is working ! My front-end and 2 node controllers are rocking! so Good Job!
[17:30] <aubre> thanks especially for automating the server bridging and network setup portions
[17:31] <aubre> if you are trying to get UEC working run don't walk to those blog posts
[17:31] <aubre> kirkland: I enjoyed your videos
[17:32] <kirkland> aubre: cheers
[17:32] <aubre> off to lunch
[17:32] <mathiaz> zul: for samba bugs, I think we should do something similar to Xorg bugs: one bug per reporter
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[17:32] <mathiaz> zul: rather than having people tag along existing bugs, every reporter should open a new bug
[17:32] <mathiaz> zul: even if the issue seems to be the same
[17:39] <Bilge> How can I determine how my machine is booting up? e.g. which boot loader is active
[17:47] <smoser> Bilge, not really easily.  its in the first N bytes of the drive that is booting off of.
[17:48] <smoser> you could extract that and compare to possible values
[17:49] <smoser> but without some poking aroudn i wouldn't know if it will be bit for bit
[17:50] <smoser> just noticed that file seems to know some stuff:
[17:50] <smoser> $ sudo file --special-files /dev/sda
[17:50] <smoser> /dev/sda: x86 boot sector; GRand Unified Bootloader, stage1 version 0x3, stage2 address 0x2000, stage2 segment 0x200; partition 1: ID=0x7, active, starthead 32, startsector 2048, 3072000 sectors; partition 2: ID=0x7, starthead 0, startsector 3084480, 102392640 sectors; partition 3: ID=0x7, starthead 239, startsector 604659712, 20480000 sectors; partition 4: ID=0x5, starthead 239, startsector 105477120, 253955520 sectors, code of
[17:50] <smoser> fset 0x48
[17:51] <zul> mathiaz: yes the chatter is getting a bit too much
[17:52] <jbernard_> kirkland: i just pushed the rcs_cost to lp:~jbernard/byobu/rcs_cost
[17:52] <zul> mathiaz: so if a reporter a has an issue with smbfs and reporter b has an issue with smbfs but in a different way then there would be too bugs
[17:52] <zul> ?
[17:53] <jbernard_> that only thing that's not quite right is that the cost doesn't show up in the right place in the statusbar
[17:53] <jbernard_> i haven't had time to look into that yet
[17:54] <Bilge> "file"?
[17:54] <Bilge> Interesting
[17:54] <Bilge> Yeah that gives me the info!
[17:55] <Bilge> LInux i386 boot LOader
[17:55] <mathiaz> zul: I'd look into the X11 wiki page - about triagging or stock reply
[17:55] <zul> mathiaz: url?
[17:55] <mathiaz> zul: there is problem a stock reply that ask the reporter to open another bug
[17:55] <Bilge> That is a very pro tip
[17:55] <mathiaz> zul: somewhere on the wiki.u.com
[17:58] <bventura> .
[17:58] <Bilge> I'm trying to install linux-image-server to replace my kernel with the stock Ubuntu one but as part of the process it keeps trying to run GRUB commands, but GRUB is not installed, LILO is. Must I replace LILO with GRUB?
[18:00] <mathiaz> zul: with the archive reorg going on, the server related packages may change a little bit
[18:01] <mathiaz> zul: to get the current set of packages related to server do:
[18:01] <mathiaz> zul: bzr get lp:ubuntu-archive-tools && cd ubuntu-archive-tools && ./edit_acl.py -P karmic-ubuntu-server query
[18:01] <mathiaz> zul: that should give the list of packages related to server
[18:01] <zul> k
[18:02] <mathiaz> zul: well - hm - no it doesn't work
[18:02] <mathiaz> zul: neither openldap nor mysql are in there
[18:02] <zul> heh
[18:03] <zul> rpm?
[18:04] <zul> mathiaz: neither is apache
[18:06] <uvirtbot> New bug: #445619 in openldap (main) "[karmic] slapd should start before kerberos kdc and admin servers, possibly others" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445619
[18:13] <zul> hey jjohansen
[18:13] <jjohansen> hi zul
[18:16] <metalf8801> I was trying out openfiler and the thing I really like was that i could use my mouse with the command line interface so I'm wondering if there is anyway I can get mouse support with ubuntu server?
[18:20] <metalf8801> so is there anyway I can use a mouse with ubuntu server? It could be really helpful with when I'm using midnight commander
[18:21] <Bilge> Applications that support a mouse will work on the server edition
[18:24] <Ahlee> passwd change issue, probable pam misconfiguration?  When I attempt to change the password of a local user account, it prompts for the current password twice, changes the password, but returns authentication failure, then password unchanged: http://paste.ubuntu.com/287977/
[18:25] <metalf8801> yeah but I don't see the mouse cursor anywhere when I'm using midnight commander or aptitude which I can use the mouse with if I'm on Ubuntu desktop edition
[18:26] <Bilge> You don't need a mouse for aptitude so I would recommend learning to use the keyboard :P
[18:26] <|rt|> does ubuntu-server have gpm setup by default?
[18:32] <metalf8801> I don't need the mouse for anything but it would be nice to be able to use it
[18:41] <JanC> metalf8801: read about gpm
[18:42] <uvirtbot> New bug: #412242 in ntp (main) "ntp FTBFS: error: 'MOD_NANO' undeclared" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/412242
[18:45] <metalf8801> JanC: ok I will thanks
[18:47] <Ahlee> I've runn into a passwd change issue, probable pam misconfiguration when integrated into my openldap/krb5 server?  When I attempt to change the password of a local user account, it prompts for the current password twice, changes the password, but returns authentication failure, then password unchanged: http://paste.ubuntu.com/287977/
[18:47] <uvirtbot> New bug: #364716 in openldap (main) "slapd upgrade to jaunty tries to dump non local databases" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364716
[18:56] <uvirtbot> New bug: #381829 in openldap (main) "NSSOV and Samba groups" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/381829
[18:59] <jdstrand> zul: so I looked at bug #412242 a little more
[18:59] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 412242 in ntp "ntp FTBFS: error: 'MOD_NANO' undeclared" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/412242
[18:59] <zul> okies
[18:59] <jdstrand> zul: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/412242/comments/3
[18:59] <uvirtbot> Launchpad bug 412242 in ntp "ntp FTBFS: error: 'MOD_NANO' undeclared" [Critical,Fix released]
[19:00] <zul> did you upload it?
[19:00] <jdstrand> zul: I didn't really mean to get embroiled in this whole issue-- I just needed ntp to build
[19:00] <jdstrand> zul: the alternate patch? no
[19:00] <jdstrand> zul: we have the patch from Fedora 11
[19:01] <jdstrand> zul: I don't really know enough about the issue to determine if it is sane or not
[19:01] <jdstrand> it seems sane
[19:01] <zul> jdstrand: thats cool maybe we should the note in the debian/changelog next time because we all know that the backporters love to the read the changelog ;)
[19:02] <jdstrand> zul: at the time, the Fedora patch was the best one I could find
[19:02] <jdstrand> zul: that's cool
[19:02] <zul> jdstrand: sounds good to me
[19:06] <zul> jdstrand: #444479 does that fix look sane to you?
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[19:08] <jdstrand> zul: well, I don't know why /sys/devices/system/cpu/ is enough, that is just a directory
[19:09] <jdstrand> zul: the comment states it falls back to /proc/stat. perhaps do instead:
[19:09] <jdstrand>   deny /sys/devices/system/cpu/ r,
[19:09] <jdstrand> that will silence the message
[19:09] <zul> k
[19:09] <zul> ill add it
[19:09] <jdstrand> keep in mind, it is still denied, so if it is actually needed, that will be an issue
[19:09] <jdstrand> zul: ^
[19:10] <zul> ill ask the user to put that in his apparmor profile and see what it does
[19:10] <jdstrand> zul: sounds reasonable
[19:22] <uvirtbot> New bug: #397733 in openldap (main) "package slapd 2.4.15-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: " [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/397733
[19:26] <uvirtbot> New bug: #445695 in openvpn (universe) "redirect-gateway does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445695
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[20:52] <jcastro> mathiaz: last call for alcohol! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep
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[22:16] <tmeVinny> is their a command to restart the LAMP server?
[22:23] <qman__> tmeVinny, do you mean to restart apache? sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[22:24] <qman__> mysql is /etc/init.d/mysql
[22:24] <qman__> if you mean to restart the whole server, sudo reboot
[22:25] <tmeVinny> qman__: thanks thats what i needed
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[22:34] <Knoxville> I have my ubuntu server added to the domain, but my samba will not take any AD accounts?  any ideas?
[22:39] <|rt|> Knoxville: you have to setup winbind for that
[22:39] <Knoxville> I thought I did install winbind also
[22:39] <zul> kirkland: where is your script that builds the cvs for qemu-kvm?
[22:39] <Knoxville> edited my nsswitch file and did nothing
[22:40] <Knoxville> I saw that the ubuntu computer was added to the domain, because it was in the computers OU in AD
[22:41] <|rt|> Knoxville: did you get Kerberos setup?
[22:42] <|rt|> this article seems to go through the process pretty good http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/3487081
[22:42] <|rt|> including testing each step
[22:43] <Knoxville> thank you for that rt, I will bookmark it and attack it again tomorrow
[22:43] <|rt|> np....it's a pita to set it all up and get it workign
[22:43] <|rt|> lots of pieces to get just right
[22:44] <tmeVinny> would anyone know instructions to setup PHPMyAdmin for Ubuntu server 9.04?
[22:46] <Knoxville> tmeVinny here ya go:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin
[22:48] <Knoxville> |rt| so have you got samba working before where it authenticated against AD?
[22:49] <|rt|> Knoxville: we had it setup at my old job...but no AD server where I currently work
[22:49] <tmeVinny> Knoxville: thanks
[22:49] <Knoxville> was it pretty good, stable, etc...
[22:49] <Knoxville> np tmeVinny
[22:49] <|rt|> Knoxville: I have migrating our samba server to auth against an LDAP backend on my list of things todo
[22:50] <Knoxville> so you obviously believe that Samba is the goods
[22:50] <|rt|> Knoxville: yeah I don't recall having any issues with stability
[22:50] <Knoxville> My environent currently runs the file server off of win2k3, but I want to make is samba integrated with AD
[22:50] <|rt|> Knoxville: this particular Samba server had more load on it than any other file server in the organization
[22:51] <|rt|> the AD in this particular instance was the file server for the front office, sales, an small engineering groups
[22:51] <|rt|> the samba file server was hammered on by the graphics department
[22:53] <|rt|> they actually called me back in last week to consult with them b/c they are having some problems with their new file server....it's not samba's fault in this case
[22:54] <|rt|> looks like some flaky scsi issues and general undersizing of the new server when the rendering farm (computing cluster) has tripled in size
[23:01] <Knoxville> |rt| sounds like you have a similar situation as myself, the AD domain is also a fileserver, but our creative dept destroys it
[23:01] <Knoxville> anyone know of a good RAID card that works great to install ubuntu onto?
[23:17] <uvirtbot> New bug: #443314 in eucalyptus "system address selection should prefer cluster-local addresses" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/443314
[23:32] <metalf8801> can I set a up a Ubuntu file server that will be detected as a hard drive on my Ubuntu and Windows PC....   If that can be done does anyone have any idea how or really where I can find a good how to? There's a lot of information about Samba out there and a lot of it isn't use full.   ps I want to do this so I can back up my PC
[23:34] <bventura> metal: samba is the way to go try the instructions on this page:
[23:34] <bventura> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[23:34] <bventura> and you should be up and running in no time
[23:36] <metalf8801> bventura:  Thank you I'll do that now
[23:36] <bventura> no prob
[23:41] <metalf8801> does it matter what name I give the workgroup in the smb.conf file?
[23:42] <bventura> I don't think so unless you already have a workgroup in play on your network, then it should match what you're already using
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[23:42] <bventura> otherwise just use the default, "WORKGROUP"
[23:43] <metalf8801> great thanks
[23:44] <bventura> otherwise just use the default, "WORKGROUP"
[23:48] <Crypia> Hello - How do I move gdm to later in the startup sequence?  I don't see a symlink for it in any of /etc/rcX.d run level folders.