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CIA-33 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r160 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ (debian/changelog slides/firefox.html): | 00:39 |
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CIA-33 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: The version of Firefox shipped with Ubuntu 9.10 is 3.5, not 3.0 | 00:39 |
CIA-33 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: (LP: #442832). | 00:39 |
CIA-33 | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r161 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/po/firefox.html/template.pot: Update the template for the previous commit. | 00:42 |
twb | cjwatson: so I have noticed that if I have /boot on a RAID1 array (with three disks), 8.04's installer refuses to allow me to install grub. | 08:28 |
twb | This has been fixed in Squeeze; I assume it's also fixed in 9.04/9.10? | 08:28 |
twb | (I'm mentioning it just on the off chance you aren't already aware of it.) | 08:29 |
_ruben | there's still issues with /boot on software grub .. never got around to properly investigate tho | 08:40 |
_ruben | on 8.10 and possibly 9.04 atleast | 08:41 |
twb | I mainly care that it's gone in the next LTS (10.04, I guess) | 08:41 |
cjwatson | twb: it's *meant* to be fixed in 9.10 ... | 09:18 |
cjwatson | (via grub2) | 09:18 |
twb | Cool, thanks. | 09:39 |
CIA-33 | debian-installer: ogra * r1189 ubuntu/ (build/config/armel/imx51.cfg debian/changelog): Move iMX51 images to 2.6.31-103 kernels | 10:53 |
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xivulon | hi, yesterday I experienced a jam in wubi as well | 11:52 |
xivulon | after reboot the installation resumed, which is unexpected since autopartition-loop checks whether the loopfiles are mountable | 11:53 |
xivulon | which would indicate that the loopfile becomes unbootable | 11:53 |
xivulon | Although /proc/cmdline had the correct syncio line, I didn't see that in /proc/mounts, not sure if that is supposed to be visible | 11:54 |
cjwatson | that's a bit odd, I think it ought to be in /proc/mounts | 11:55 |
cjwatson | oh, maybe not | 11:55 |
cjwatson | $ ps aux | grep syncio | 11:55 |
cjwatson | root 22572 1.5 0.0 3016 1004 ? Ss 11:55 0:00 /sbin/mount.ntfs /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 -o rw,syncio | 11:55 |
cjwatson | $ grep sda3 /proc/mounts | 11:55 |
cjwatson | /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0 | 11:55 |
cjwatson | so apparently that doesn't show up | 11:55 |
xivulon | I was on plain and the battery died short after, so couldn't do much more, we'll play with it again today | 11:57 |
xivulon | could it be a problem with the syncio patch? | 11:58 |
cjwatson | *could* be, but I can't assess probabilities | 12:00 |
xivulon | hmm cking would expect the option to show up in /proc/mounts | 12:04 |
cjwatson | thing is syncio is mostly implemented in userspace so it not showing up in /proc/mounts isn't an indication that it isn't working | 12:04 |
xivulon | that could be, so only the fuse options are shown | 12:06 |
cjwatson | 28892 open("/dev/sda3", O_RDWR|O_SYNC|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 | 12:07 |
cjwatson | which is what I'd expect | 12:07 |
cjwatson | though I'm not seeing MS_SYNCHRONOUS in the trace, which is a bit weird | 12:07 |
cjwatson | weird because if that's not set then how on earth is ntfs_volume_startup figuring out that it's meant to use O_SYNC | 12:08 |
cjwatson | I wonder if strace is telling me porkies | 12:09 |
cjwatson | or if fuse is just failing to pass it through | 12:10 |
davmor2 | hurray back at last | 12:48 |
davmor2 | right lets run today's wubi and see what we get | 12:49 |
turtle4464 | morning cjwatson | 14:39 |
cjwatson | hello | 14:40 |
turtle4464 | cjwatson: are you on here on the weekend? | 14:40 |
cjwatson | sometimes, but not reliably | 14:40 |
cjwatson | my client will normally still be connected and I'll read messages, but possibly with a long time lag | 14:41 |
turtle4464 | cjwatson: in that case i was thinking of waiting until monday morning EST to try out a daily cd, as i thought it smart to wait for a time when you would be around | 14:41 |
cjwatson | sure, whatever - today's should fix the problem you had yesterday though I haven't tried it myself yet (and probably won't have time today) | 14:43 |
evand | (I'm trying it now, seems to be working) | 14:43 |
turtle4464 | i'm at work right now for another 10 hours, then same time tomorrow, so monday is seeming like a good option | 14:43 |
turtle4464 | unless they have thanksgiving this monday in the UK and you're with your family | 14:44 |
rgreening | evand: you get a chance to fix the str->unicode issues in usb-creator (just so as its not forgotten) | 14:55 |
evand | rgreening: indeed, thanks for the reminder | 14:57 |
rgreening | np :) | 14:58 |
rgreening | you might wish to reivew my changes from last commit (Im pretty sure it was ok) | 14:58 |
davmor2 | evand, cjwatson: on wubi today I get through the installer and then get Try (hd0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr Try (hd0,1): NTFS5:Nowubildr Try (hd0,2): NTFS5: _ | 14:58 |
cjwatson | try mounting the filesystem in Linux, I bet it's just fucked again | 15:00 |
davmor2 | cjwatson: loop mounting it and get all the logs again yes? | 15:01 |
cjwatson | just see if it actually wants to mount it or if it declares in syslog that it needs checking | 15:02 |
cjwatson | and whether /boot/grub/grub.cfg exists | 15:02 |
cjwatson | I've not encountered logs from this type of problem that are actually useful yet | 15:02 |
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evand | so for what it's worth, I just tried an install using today's daily-live to test an unrelated bug and it completed successfully, as expected | 15:43 |
cjwatson | good, thanks for clearing that up | 15:45 |
NCommander | cjwatson, so I have my partman-uboot deb in place and installed, but my templates don't seem to work. I get "10 partman-uboot/mountpoint doesn't exist" for instance | 16:02 |
* NCommander is reading on debconf's documentation, but not having much luck | 16:06 | |
cjwatson | NCommander: did you install it using udpkg -i from a shell? | 16:08 |
NCommander | cjwatson, yes | 16:08 |
cjwatson | NCommander: don't do that, use the preseed/early_command thing I suggested | 16:08 |
cjwatson | NCommander: once you have the templates in place, you can install new versions that don't change them from a shell | 16:08 |
NCommander | cjwatson, bah, I guess the installer does some magic to make templates work magcially? | 16:09 |
cjwatson | NCommander: but the templates themselves need to be installed by something that's connected to the main running debconf instance, unfortunately, and debconf can't have multiple clients at the moment | 16:09 |
cjwatson | no, it's an fd gluing problem | 16:09 |
cjwatson | you don't really want to know, I suspect :-) | 16:10 |
NCommander | cjwatson, I suspect your right | 16:10 |
cjwatson | but basically installing templates requires a debconf command, and if you issue debconf commands from tty2, they don't reliably affect the instance on tty1 | 16:10 |
* NCommander used udpkg -i on tty1 ... | 16:11 | |
cjwatson | from the 'start shell' menu item? | 16:11 |
cjwatson | that disassociates from debconf so you might as well be on tty2 | 16:11 |
NCommander | cjwatson, yeah | 16:12 |
NCommander | wow | 16:12 |
* NCommander shivers | 16:12 | |
* NCommander tries in a VM | 16:14 | |
davmor2 | cjwatson: uploaded installer/syslog and grub.cfg to bug 439279 | 16:17 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 439279 in wubi "There seems to be some instability with the installer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439279 | 16:17 |
davmor2 | but to me it's looking correct | 16:17 |
cjwatson | as I said, the problem doesn't seem to show up in logs | 16:18 |
davmor2 | I'm going to try a kubuntu install and see if I get any joy there | 16:32 |
cody-somerville | cjwatson, is only-ubiquity/automatic-ubiquity broken in karmic? | 16:50 |
cody-somerville | /etc/rc?.d/[SK]??[gkx]dm doesn't seem to exist on karmic | 16:50 |
Riddell | evand (cjwatson): we'd like to have a warning on the installer for Kubuntu netbook edition that it's a tech preview and not a super-polished release, can I edit ubi-intro.py to check for say /usr/share/ubiquity/kubuntu-netbook-intro.txt and display that? | 16:52 |
evand | cody-somerville: that code will just fail silently, but only-ubiquity/automatic-ubiquity do work in Karmic. | 16:52 |
cody-somerville | evand, how does it stop gdm from starting? | 16:52 |
evand | cody-somerville: via its upstart job | 16:53 |
evand | Riddell: sure, but make sure you apply the same check to ensure its not being run as oem-config or in automatic mode | 16:54 |
cody-somerville | casper looks like it still tries to work with the old gdm config | 16:54 |
evand | right, it will definitely try to delete those files, but since it uses -f, it doesn't matter if it fails. | 16:55 |
davmor2 | cjwatson, evand: So wubi on kubuntu is dying at the 100% on computing the new partitions | 16:58 |
evand | davmor2: I take it this is using the absolute latest daily-live CD? | 16:58 |
cody-somerville | evand, oops, I needed to do a bzr pull :) | 16:58 |
davmor2 | evand: Yeap | 16:58 |
evand | cody-somerville: :) | 16:59 |
evand | davmor2: can you elaborate on dying? Is it a hard lock? Can you switch to a VT? | 16:59 |
davmor2 | I can switch to vt so it's only the install | 16:59 |
evand | davmor2: can you pastebin the debug log and syslog? | 17:01 |
davmor2 | evand: yeap 2 ticks | 17:01 |
cody-somerville | evand, does it work when you have autologin configured? | 17:03 |
evand | cody-somerville: can you elaborate a bit, please? Does what work when you have autologin enabled? | 17:04 |
CIA-33 | ubiquity: jriddell * r3513 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/ubi-intro.py): | 17:07 |
CIA-33 | ubiquity: ubi-intro.py: detect kubuntu-netbook-intro.txt if it exists and use | 17:07 |
CIA-33 | ubiquity: that as warning for Kubuntu Netbook Edition | 17:07 |
davmor2 | evand: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/syslog http://www.davmor2.co.uk/debug | 17:10 |
davmor2 | evand hang on | 17:10 |
davmor2 | evand: try now | 17:14 |
evand | gotta run, unfortunately | 17:17 |
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