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CIA-33ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r160 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ (debian/changelog slides/firefox.html):00:39
CIA-33ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: The version of Firefox shipped with Ubuntu 9.10 is 3.5, not 3.000:39
CIA-33ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: (LP: #442832).00:39
CIA-33ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r161 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/po/firefox.html/template.pot: Update the template for the previous commit.00:42
twbcjwatson: so I have noticed that if I have /boot on a RAID1 array (with three disks), 8.04's installer refuses to allow me to install grub.08:28
twbThis has been fixed in Squeeze; I assume it's also fixed in 9.04/9.10?08:28
twb(I'm mentioning it just on the off chance you aren't already aware of it.)08:29
_rubenthere's still issues with /boot on software grub .. never got around to properly investigate tho08:40
_rubenon 8.10 and possibly 9.04 atleast08:41
twbI mainly care that it's gone in the next LTS (10.04, I guess)08:41
cjwatsontwb: it's *meant* to be fixed in 9.10 ...09:18
cjwatson(via grub2)09:18
twbCool, thanks.09:39
CIA-33debian-installer: ogra * r1189 ubuntu/ (build/config/armel/imx51.cfg debian/changelog): Move iMX51 images to 2.6.31-103 kernels10:53
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xivulonhi, yesterday I experienced a jam in wubi as well11:52
xivulonafter reboot the installation resumed, which is unexpected since autopartition-loop checks whether the loopfiles are mountable11:53
xivulonwhich would indicate that the loopfile becomes unbootable11:53
xivulonAlthough /proc/cmdline had the correct syncio line, I didn't see that in /proc/mounts, not sure if that is supposed to be visible11:54
cjwatsonthat's a bit odd, I think it ought to be in /proc/mounts11:55
cjwatsonoh, maybe not11:55
cjwatson$ ps aux | grep syncio11:55
cjwatsonroot     22572  1.5  0.0   3016  1004 ?        Ss   11:55   0:00 /sbin/mount.ntfs /dev/sda3 /media/sda3 -o rw,syncio11:55
cjwatson$ grep sda3 /proc/mounts11:55
cjwatson/dev/sda3 /media/sda3 fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 011:55
cjwatsonso apparently that doesn't show up11:55
xivulonI was on plain and the battery died short after, so couldn't do much more, we'll play with it again today11:57
xivuloncould it be a problem with the syncio patch?11:58
cjwatson*could* be, but I can't assess probabilities12:00
xivulonhmm cking would expect the option to show up in /proc/mounts12:04
cjwatsonthing is syncio is mostly implemented in userspace so it not showing up in /proc/mounts isn't an indication that it isn't working12:04
xivulonthat could be, so only the fuse options are shown12:06
cjwatson28892 open("/dev/sda3", O_RDWR|O_SYNC|O_LARGEFILE) = 312:07
cjwatsonwhich is what I'd expect12:07
cjwatsonthough I'm not seeing MS_SYNCHRONOUS in the trace, which is a bit weird12:07
cjwatsonweird because if that's not set then how on earth is ntfs_volume_startup figuring out that it's meant to use O_SYNC12:08
cjwatsonI wonder if strace is telling me porkies12:09
cjwatsonor if fuse is just failing to pass it through12:10
davmor2hurray back at last12:48
davmor2right lets run today's wubi and see what we get12:49
turtle4464morning cjwatson14:39
cjwatsonhello14:40
turtle4464cjwatson: are you on here on the weekend?14:40
cjwatsonsometimes, but not reliably14:40
cjwatsonmy client will normally still be connected and I'll read messages, but possibly with a long time lag14:41
turtle4464cjwatson: in that case i was thinking of waiting until monday morning EST to try out a daily cd, as i thought it smart to wait for a time when you would be around14:41
cjwatsonsure, whatever - today's should fix the problem you had yesterday though I haven't tried it myself yet (and probably won't have time today)14:43
evand(I'm trying it now, seems to be working)14:43
turtle4464i'm at work right now for another 10 hours, then same time tomorrow, so monday is seeming like a good option14:43
turtle4464unless they have thanksgiving this monday in the UK and you're with your family14:44
rgreeningevand: you get a chance to fix the str->unicode issues in usb-creator (just so as its not forgotten)14:55
evandrgreening: indeed, thanks for the reminder14:57
rgreeningnp :)14:58
rgreeningyou might wish to reivew my changes from last commit (Im pretty sure it was ok)14:58
davmor2evand, cjwatson: on wubi today I get through the installer and then get Try (hd0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr       Try (hd0,1): NTFS5:Nowubildr     Try (hd0,2): NTFS5: _14:58
cjwatsontry mounting the filesystem in Linux, I bet it's just fucked again15:00
davmor2cjwatson: loop mounting it and get all the logs again yes?15:01
cjwatsonjust see if it actually wants to mount it or if it declares in syslog that it needs checking15:02
cjwatsonand whether /boot/grub/grub.cfg exists15:02
cjwatsonI've not encountered logs from this type of problem that are actually useful yet15:02
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evandso for what it's worth, I just tried an install using today's daily-live to test an unrelated bug and it completed successfully, as expected15:43
cjwatsongood, thanks for clearing that up15:45
NCommandercjwatson, so I have my partman-uboot deb in place and installed, but my templates don't seem to work. I get "10 partman-uboot/mountpoint doesn't exist" for instance16:02
* NCommander is reading on debconf's documentation, but not having much luck16:06
cjwatsonNCommander: did you install it using udpkg -i from a shell?16:08
NCommandercjwatson, yes16:08
cjwatsonNCommander: don't do that, use the preseed/early_command thing I suggested16:08
cjwatsonNCommander: once you have the templates in place, you can install new versions that don't change them from a shell16:08
NCommandercjwatson, bah, I guess the installer does some magic to make templates work magcially?16:09
cjwatsonNCommander: but the templates themselves need to be installed by something that's connected to the main running debconf instance, unfortunately, and debconf can't have multiple clients at the moment16:09
cjwatsonno, it's an fd gluing problem16:09
cjwatsonyou don't really want to know, I suspect :-)16:10
NCommandercjwatson, I suspect your right16:10
cjwatsonbut basically installing templates requires a debconf command, and if you issue debconf commands from tty2, they don't reliably affect the instance on tty116:10
* NCommander used udpkg -i on tty1 ...16:11
cjwatsonfrom the 'start shell' menu item?16:11
cjwatsonthat disassociates from debconf so you might as well be on tty216:11
NCommandercjwatson, yeah16:12
NCommanderwow16:12
* NCommander shivers16:12
* NCommander tries in a VM16:14
davmor2cjwatson: uploaded installer/syslog and grub.cfg to bug 43927916:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 439279 in wubi "There seems to be some instability with the installer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43927916:17
davmor2but to me it's looking correct16:17
cjwatsonas I said, the problem doesn't seem to show up in logs16:18
davmor2I'm going to try a kubuntu install and see if I get any joy there16:32
cody-somervillecjwatson, is only-ubiquity/automatic-ubiquity broken in karmic?16:50
cody-somerville/etc/rc?.d/[SK]??[gkx]dm doesn't seem to exist on karmic16:50
Riddellevand (cjwatson): we'd like to have a warning on the installer for Kubuntu netbook edition that it's a tech preview and not a super-polished release, can I edit ubi-intro.py to check for say /usr/share/ubiquity/kubuntu-netbook-intro.txt and display that?16:52
evandcody-somerville: that code will just fail silently, but only-ubiquity/automatic-ubiquity do work in Karmic.16:52
cody-somervilleevand, how does it stop gdm from starting?16:52
evandcody-somerville: via its upstart job16:53
evandRiddell: sure, but make sure you apply the same check to ensure its not being run as oem-config or in automatic mode16:54
cody-somervillecasper looks like it still tries to work with the old gdm config16:54
evandright, it will definitely try to delete those files, but since it uses -f, it doesn't matter if it fails.16:55
davmor2cjwatson, evand: So wubi on kubuntu is dying at the 100% on computing the new partitions16:58
evanddavmor2: I take it this is using the absolute latest daily-live CD?16:58
cody-somervilleevand, oops, I needed to do a bzr pull :)16:58
davmor2evand: Yeap16:58
evandcody-somerville: :)16:59
evanddavmor2: can you elaborate on dying?  Is it a hard lock?  Can you switch to a VT?16:59
davmor2I can switch to vt so it's only the install16:59
evanddavmor2: can you pastebin the debug log and syslog?17:01
davmor2evand: yeap 2 ticks17:01
cody-somervilleevand, does it work when you have autologin configured?17:03
evandcody-somerville: can you elaborate a bit, please?  Does what work when you have autologin enabled?17:04
CIA-33ubiquity: jriddell * r3513 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/components/ubi-intro.py):17:07
CIA-33ubiquity: ubi-intro.py: detect kubuntu-netbook-intro.txt if it exists and use17:07
CIA-33ubiquity: that as warning for Kubuntu Netbook Edition17:07
davmor2evand: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/syslog http://www.davmor2.co.uk/debug17:10
davmor2evand hang on17:10
davmor2evand: try now17:14
evandgotta run, unfortunately17:17
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