[06:36] <dft5g> hii
[09:26] <simith> hello 
[09:26] <simith> i would like to set up a development environment for Ubuntu mobile edition on Fedora 8 
[09:26] <simith> is there any docs ?
[09:28] <simith> not possible ?
[12:36] <asac> whats the official way to upgrade UNR?
[12:36] <asac> lool: ?
[12:36]  * asac never used update-manager on it ;)
[12:36] <asac> just apt-get dist-upgrade or are there already update hacks in update-manager i dont want to miss?
[12:50] <davmor2> asac: what version you on now?
[12:51] <davmor2> asac: I'm assuming you can try update-manager -d the same as desktop
[12:51] <asac> davmor2: i am on jaunty
[12:51] <asac> davmor2: i can use update-manager
[12:51] <asac> but usually i prefer apt-get ;) ... which is why i asked if there are hacks that i would miss ;)
[12:52] <davmor2> asac: ah fair enough
[12:53] <asac> so ... are there hacks or not ;)?`
[12:53] <asac> anyway still upgrading to latest jaunty ... so have a few more minutes at least ;)
[12:53] <davmor2> asac: I don't know I used update-manager -d
[12:53] <asac> mini-9 is not really speedy
[12:53] <asac> ok i will use that too then :)
[12:56] <davmor2> asac: you might lose wifi
[12:57] <asac> loos wifi?
[12:57] <asac> davmor2: ?
[12:57] <asac> i probably want that ;)
[12:58] <lool> asac: Pong?
[12:58] <lool> asac: In the train right now
[12:58] <davmor2> asac: yeah most people using dell mini and karmic have lost wifi
[12:58] <lool> asac: cant read scrollback, but perhaps I can help now?
[12:58] <asac> lool: just wanted to know if update-manager has any tweaks or if its a valid test to update to karmic with apt-get
[12:59] <asac> lool: but i decided to use update-manager now :) ... was initially not sure whats the normal thing for UNR
[12:59] <asac> davmor2: wl driver regression :/
[12:59] <asac> yeah i read bugs about it
[12:59] <asac> what a mess
[12:59] <asac> i hope it just affects some types of networks
[12:59] <asac> i have reports that some APs work and some down
[12:59] <asac> dont
[12:59] <davmor2> asac: I don't know if it is happening on upgrades though
[13:00] <davmor2> hence the might
[13:00] <asac> the reports i got say it regressed on about oct 5
[13:00] <asac> so not that long ago
[13:00] <asac> :/
[13:01] <lool> asac: We're using the same tools as the desktop as much as possible
[13:22] <ian_brasil> i always used update-manager -d  (without any problems)
[13:32] <asac> 3 minutes till downloads finish in update-manager ... then we will see ;)
[16:29] <asac> darn. how much i dislike debconf
[16:29] <asac> the upgrade hung for one hour
[16:29] <asac> because of some config file i never touched
[17:41] <lool> asac: cups.conf?
[17:41] <lool> I have CUPS for that, you cant imagine
[17:42] <lool> asac: I think update-manager disables the prompts though, doesn't it?
[18:01] <asac> lool: i am not sure if it was cups again. but cups surely changes config regularly without user modification
[18:01] <asac> lool: update-manager prompted me here on unr
[18:17] <asac> lool: UNR looks good ... only thing is the bluetooth tray when disabled
[18:17] <asac> its not recognizable
[18:17] <asac> also the volume indicator i just can see the speaker not ... how much volume there is
[18:17] <asac> and on launcher the apps have too much spacing in between
[18:17] <asac> not enough fit in the area
[18:18] <asac> haave to scroll even on favorites
[18:18] <asac> but otherwise thumbs up!!