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micahgJontheEchidna: thanks for the packaging tips02:08
JontheEchidnamicahg: thanks for the FTBFS fix ;)02:09
zachtibhey, q about the eclipse-cdt package in Karmic: it's version 3.1.2, which is a (very) older version than the version of eclipse in karmic, 3.5.1. The version of cdt that corresponds to that eclipse release is 6.0.1, so I'm worried that someone installing eclipse and eclipse-cdt on Karmic is going to wind up with a broken eclipse...02:33
zachtibI'm guessing it's way too late to bump the cdt version that much, so it seems to me the best thing would to be pull it (I think a few other packages are in a similar state) and let users install addons via eclipse's built in manager until newer packages can be built...02:36
zachtib(I came here b/c the eclipse-cdt package is maintained by MOTU)02:36
micahgzachtib: have you looked at that bug that was mentioned in the eclipse fix bug?02:37
zachtibi did a quick search on launchpad, but I don't think I've seen the one you're referring to02:37
micahgbug 16373902:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 163739 in eclipse-cdt "Version 4.x has been released for some time" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16373902:38
zachtibah,that's the one I saw02:38
zachtibthough even 4.x is pretty old02:38
micahgzachtib: you might want to update the upgrade bug02:39
micahghave you tried eclipse-cdt and eclispe together?02:39
zachtibon it02:39
micahgis there indeed a problem, or is it just lacking features02:39
zachtibnot yet, I just noticed it02:39
zachtibi'll know shortly... I mentioned it to my mother, who is an eclipse developer that works w/ cdt a lot, and she said it was probably asking for trouble02:40
zachtiblemme fire up my VM02:40
micahgok, if there's a conflict, then please file a separate bug saying that there is a conflict02:40
micahgalthough, idk02:41
micahgmaybe someone else can weigh in here02:41
micahgjust requiring version 3.2 doesn't seem like a good solution as that's not in the repo02:42
zachtibideally, I'd like to see cdt 6.0.1 in there, but it's probably a little late for that02:43
zachtibfor Karmic at least02:43
micahgzachtib: not necessarily02:43
ScottKzachtib: If the current one won't work, as long as someone can package the new version and test it, it shouldn't be a problem.02:46
zachtibmicahg: ScottK: just tried, eclipse 3.5.1 flat out doesn't see eclipse-cdt 3.1.202:46
ScottKOK.  That's step on.02:47
ScottKStep two is someone packages the new version (Debian has the same one we do).02:47
micahgok, so update bug 163739 to the version it should be02:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 163739 in eclipse-cdt "Version 4.x has been released for some time" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16373902:47
micahgand find someone to package it like ScottK said :)02:47
zachtibcan I edit that bug?02:48
micahglool: lubuntu-meta still didn't build amd6402:48
micahgzachtib: if you're registered with launchpaf02:48
micahg*launchpad02:48
zachtibi am, I just don't see what to click02:48
zachtibah02:49
micahgare yo ulogged in?02:49
zachtibyes02:49
micahgyou should see a foot in the title02:49
zachtibgot it02:49
ScottKUnless you are using one of the many browsers that doesn't work with02:49
zachtibnope, it works02:51
micahgdyfet: lubuntu-desktop still does not have amd6402:52
ScottKmicahg: I'm fixing it.02:57
micahgScottK: which thing?02:57
ScottKmicahg: lubuntu02:58
micahgok02:58
zachtibmicahg: I sent an email to a guy that had some up-to-date eclipse packages in his PPA, so maybe he'll be able to provide some updated packages...03:02
ScottKmicahg: The lubuntu fix is uploaded.03:03
micahgok, thanks ScottK03:03
ScottKmicahg: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/0.7.1/+build/128134303:08
micahgthanks ScottK03:11
cyberix_What happens when a user installs a package which depens on something that is implemented by multiple alternative packages?03:26
ScottKFirst one on the list gets installed if none are already installed, but if any of them are installed nothing extra gets installed.03:27
cyberix_I mean03:28
cyberix_we used to have totem-xine and totem-gstreamer03:28
dhillon-v10hi all, I just got done installing pbuilder (sudo apt-get install pbuilder) and I have a then I had to test a package if it runs on karmic or not so I did sudo pbuilder update --distribution karmic --override-config it started downloading lot of packages and I am running karmic, I didn't break anything on jaunty did I03:28
cyberix_both of which would provide totem03:28
cyberix_now, if I'd have none installed03:28
cyberix_and something would simply depend on "totem"03:29
cyberix_there would be no list03:29
dhillon-v10* I am running jaunty03:29
cyberix_to chechk which one comes first03:29
ScottKcyberix_: In the case of a virtual provides it's random.03:30
cyberix_ok03:30
cyberix_But the user is not bothered?03:30
cyberix_the system picks one03:30
ScottKthat's why you should always depend on realpackage|virtualpackage so you get deterministic behavior03:30
cyberix_ok03:30
ScottKThe user is not bothered03:34
cyberix_thank you03:34
ScottKNo problem.03:35
cyberix_I never knew how far I'm from understanding how this stuff works, until I started reading how multiarch works :-)03:35
* ScottK shudders03:35
cyberix_lol03:36
cyberix_I'm starting to get it.03:36
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ScottKhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kazehakase/0.5.4-2.1ubuntu3.0xul191/+build/1152529 would be a nice target for FTBFS fixing by someone that knows a bit of gtk.04:05
ScottKsistpoty|work: You might want to take a shot at fixing https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bayonne/2.3.2-3build1/+build/1161099/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.bayonne_2.3.2-3build1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz - in addition to FTBFS fix, it also clears up some NBS.04:16
porthosefabrice_sp, Thx for the upload.  Forwarding it to Debian :)06:52
kklimondasiretart: can you take a look at bug 446040 when you are online?06:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 446040 in mplayer "vdpau video output breaks fullscreen playback at least on some GPUs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44604006:56
fabrice_spporthose, thanks for the debdiff ;-)07:08
dholbachgood morning07:42
mohanohihi pwnguin07:51
pwnguinh07:51
mohanohicompiling ctl..07:52
pwnguinwhy?07:52
mohanohiits giving error while doing make..07:52
mohanohito install the missing library..07:52
pwnguinah07:53
pwnguinthats what you meant by color transform07:53
mohanohihttp://pastebin.ca/160347507:53
mohanohican you tell me why the error is occuring pls?07:54
pwnguinmaybe07:55
pwnguinyou did ./configure?07:55
mohanohiyeah..07:56
pwnguinwell, it means that a standard function wasn't properly scoped07:56
mohanohihmm??07:57
pwnguinthe question is, is it because your compiler is too new, or too old?07:57
mohanohiah..07:57
mohanohiwhat should i do now?07:57
mohanohihow to check if my compiler version?07:59
pwnguingcc --version07:59
mohanohigcc (Ubuntu 4.3.3-5ubuntu4) 4.3.308:00
pwnguinyou might ask the developer how he did it08:02
mohanohipwnguin: oh...08:02
pwnguinhttp://ramenhdr.blogspot.com/2009/09/color-transformation-language.html08:02
mohanohipwnguin: yeah.. i read it..08:03
pwnguini wonder if CtlLex.cpp is actually c++08:03
mohanohipwnguin: hmm.. no programming idea... :(08:03
mohanohipwnguin: i am just an artist08:04
pwnguinwell, ramenhdr is super new08:05
pwnguinand it's dependencies aren't yet packaged08:06
pwnguinwhich is a bad sign08:06
pwnguinmohanohi: im guessing strtol was depricated or moved and ctl hasn't changed to fix it08:09
pwnguinit looks like the developer uses osx08:10
mohanohipwnguin:oh...08:11
pwnguinhonestly, even the gentoo people have trouble building according to the forum08:12
mohanohipwnguin:oh... ok.. then i will mail the developer.. sorry for wasting your time :)08:13
pwnguinnot a problem08:13
mohanohipwnguin: thanx :)08:13
pwnguinive actually been collecting references to nodal editors like that08:14
pwnguinhadn't seen that one08:14
pwnguinbut i think he's going a bit nuts on the dependencies without considering their long term viability08:15
pwnguinAcademy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences might not be a very responsive upstream08:16
mohanohipwnguin: oh...08:25
mohanohipwnguin: anyhow.. linux seriously needs a Opensource compositing program..08:25
pwnguinhave you seen blender?08:25
mohanohipwnguin: Blender is our productions major package..08:25
mohanohipwnguin: but it isn't really sufficient as an compositing programme..08:26
mohanohipwnguin: lacks rotoscope, tracker, animatable nodes, good masking..08:26
jetienneq. what is the name of the tool which convert a ./configure installation in a .deb ?09:07
randomactioncheckinstall09:23
jetiennerandomaction: thanks09:25
jetienneq. where can i get information on how to set my own repository09:25
_rubengoogle, as there's tons of methods, each with their pros and cons09:26
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jetienne_ruben: on widely accepted good practice ?09:30
_rubenjetienne: depends on your needs/wishes/etc .. i use debmirror to mirror the official repos and mini-dinstall for our inhouse packages09:35
jetienne_ruben: this is a for small repo with only our packages, like 10 packages top09:36
jetienneeasy to install would be good09:36
_rubenmini-dinstall will probably suffice for that09:36
jetienne_ruben: cool thanks09:37
sistpoty|workScottK: will take a look later... (hm, didn't close kvirc when I left work yesterday *g*)09:41
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DavieyCould a motu please confirm Bug #446038 ?11:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 446038 in mythtv-theme-mythbuntu "Remove from archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44603811:26
Laneysuperm1 is a MOTU11:28
Laneysuperm1: why didn't you confirm it?11:28
ScottKsistpoty|work: Thanks.11:31
DavieyLaney: superm1 reported it, i would suggest it's bad form for a reporter to confirm their own bug :)11:31
LaneyDaviey: not for process bugs like this11:31
Davieyok11:32
Laneyyou're just asking an archive admin to perform an action you can't do yourself11:32
LaneyI did it anyway11:32
Davieythanks Laney, i'll pester an AA now.11:32
Laneyone just spoke in this very channel ;)11:32
ScottKNot one that can do removals, however.  That takes shell access.11:35
Laneyoh :(11:35
LaneyIs that Canonical staff only?11:35
directhexthere are different degrees of AAness?11:35
directhexi thought they all sat atop mount olympus, with a glowy blue aura :(11:35
ScottKLaney: Yes.11:36
ScottKFor non-Canonical AA, we can only do what the LP U/I allows.11:36
Laneyis that basically NEWing?11:37
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AnAntHello, could someone review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sabily-xsplash-artwork ?12:32
AnAnt^ it closes LP 440153, which is FFe approved12:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 440153 in sabily "FFe: Add an xsplash theme for Sabily" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44015312:35
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mok0Man it looks dumb when that Kpackagekit window resizes for every package it installs...14:42
bddebianHeya gang14:47
sistpoty|workhi bddebian14:47
bddebianHeya sistpoty|work14:47
lfaraoneIf a package was pulled in from debian with a python-multithreading dep, does it make sense to remove that dep in Ubuntu? Is it worth fixing at this time?14:49
AnAntbddebian: Hello14:54
bddebianHi AnAnt14:54
AnAntcould someone review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=sabily-xsplash-artwork ?14:56
AnAnt^ it closes LP 440153, which is FFe approved14:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 440153 in sabily "FFe: Add an xsplash theme for Sabily" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44015314:56
sistpoty|workScottK: patch at bug #412933, it's really ugly though, and I haven't tested yet if it works (well, I'm at work...)15:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 412933 in eglibc "bayonne FTBFS with g++-4.4: wrong prototype for strchr()" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41293315:15
RoAkSoAxheya guys should -doc pcakages Depend on ${misc:Depends} if lintian says so?15:40
james_wthere's no harm in it15:41
james_wand there's often no harm in not doing it either15:41
RoAkSoAxjames_w, ok thanks :)15:43
james_wit's only needed if debhelper automatically adds a dependency15:43
james_wif it won't do that for your package then you don't need it, but it's better to have it15:43
james_wjust not worth adding to a package that we get from Debian unless it is known to cause a bug15:43
RoAkSoAxok awesome! thanks :)15:46
ari-tczewjames_w: could you review this bug #431080 ?16:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 431080 in drupal6 "Fix critical security vulnerability (SA-CORE-2009-008)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43108016:05
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irixpgmrI am learning about buffer overflows.  I am working in a virtual environment.  How do it turn of the Ubuntu 9.04 protections?17:43
av`ScottK, about Bug #431979, do you think is sane enough to package it for karmic? or should we ask to have it synced from debian at some point?17:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 431979 in amule "[security and bugfix release] amule 2.2.6" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43197917:49
sochi18:04
soci'm just changing something in the glade files of synaptic, but somehow the change never appears after i compiled the app, what am i doing wrong?18:04
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joaopintoyou are not installing the files into the proper place ?18:11
sochoe would i do it?18:11
socthere is a makefile in this dir and it gets executed afaics18:11
socs/hoe/how18:12
fabrice_spfunkyHat, ping18:41
funkyHatfabrice_sp: pong?19:49
funkyHatfabrice_sp: just got in, taking at look at that patch now.19:50
funkyHatI already made a patch to submit to upstream, so I'm just reading how to put that into dpatch19:52
funkyHatIs there some more help about dpatch than https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#dpatch ?19:53
wrapsteri was building jkaudio pkg and this is what i got as an error... http://pastie.org/64730919:57
wrapsteri needed help on resolving it.. and its a little urgent.. can anyone look into it pls19:58
ScottKav`: For amule we pretty much always want the latest crack, so I'd be in favor at long as there's a halfway sane package.20:04
av`ScottK, gonna update the package and upload it20:04
av`myself :)20:05
joaopintowrapster, what don't you understand about that error ?20:05
wrapsterjoaopinto: well what i wanted to post was something different.. sorry about that.. the issue is actually about a complain on missing header sys/audio.h and sys/mixer.h20:06
joaopintopastebin it please, and I hope you are not again asking us about opensolaris specific stuff :P20:08
av`ScottK, please comment into the bug and say it's ok for the update20:08
av`ScottK, plus approve the task20:08
wrapsterjoaopinto: no not this time20:09
wrapster:)20:09
fabrice_spfunkyHat, man dpatch?20:10
* funkyHat feels silly now20:10
fabrice_splol20:10
ScottKav`: Done20:11
av`ScottK, thanks20:11
ScottKNo problem.  Thank you for working on it.20:11
funkyHatfabrice_sp: still not really getting it, I don't want to just try it as I'm worried I'd mess up my package and have to start again20:13
av`ScottK, np :)20:13
funkyHatI suppose I'd be able to just use my debdiff though20:13
fabrice_spfunkyHat, an easy is to use dpatch-edit-patch20:13
fabrice_spand apply then your patch to it20:14
funkyHatAh got it20:14
funkyHatSo I need to reset it to the unmodified package anyway. should I do dpatch and then dch -i?20:15
funkyHatOr just unpatch the file I changed and then do dpatch-edit-patch?20:15
ScottKI'm a fan of dpatch-edit-patch20:17
funkyHatDo you know the answer to my question then? :)20:17
fabrice_spunpatch the file and then run dpatch-edit-patch20:17
fabrice_spdo somebody know what would be the watch file to download the source from there: http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/downloads ?20:18
funkyHatI just did dpatch-edit-patch and patched then exited, but my patch isn't in 00list...20:22
ScottKfunkyHat: You have to add it to 00list by hand, but the patch should exist now.20:22
funkyHatOh ok. So I will add a number to the beginning of the file, as I didn't realise I should20:23
micahgScottK: about the kvpnc thing, shouldI file a bug about the packaging, upstream?20:24
ScottKmicahg: Yes.  About a missing version requirement for pkg-kde-tools20:25
micahgok20:25
ScottKmicahg: Where upstream means Debian.20:26
micahgyes20:26
ylatuyaHi! I'm trying to package Chronojump for Ubuntu and I'm looking for an Advocate (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/445207). The package is already in revu. Is it the right place to ask help?20:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 445207 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging]:chronojump" [Wishlist,New]20:36
ScottKylatuya: We are very close to a release, so not taking new packages right now.  We'll be back in the new package business next month.20:36
ylatuyaOk. I'll come back in a month :)20:37
funkyHatfabrice_sp: just uploaded the new patch :)20:42
fabrice_spcool :-)20:43
fabrice_spdid you take care of the merge?20:43
ScottKylatuya: You're welcome to hang around and help us fix bugs in the meantime.20:43
fabrice_spOr I should perform it by myself?20:43
funkyHatfabrice_sp: the merge?20:43
fabrice_spyes: Debian has a newer version that should be merged as it fixes several bugs20:44
funkyHatOh, sorry, you mentioned that and I forgot about it20:44
fabrice_spnp :-)20:45
fabrice_spwill take it?20:45
funkyHatI've not done a merge before, but I could give it ago20:46
funkyHat*a go20:46
fabrice_spfrom what I remember, this one is easy20:47
ylatuyaScottK:I'm the maintainer of LongoMatch and filled to asking to update the version that currently is in karmic because I'm not maintaining the 0.14.x anymore (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/longomatch/+bug/420107). The current upstream version is at 0.15.320:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 420107 in longomatch "Update to LongoMatch-0.15.1" [Wishlist,New]20:47
* ScottK looks20:47
fabrice_spfunkyHat, have a look and if you feel like it's too much for you, just tell me, and I will take care of it20:49
sebnerScottK: ylatuya : Hoi, I planned to do the packaging on the weekend (Debian ->Ubuntu) but if necessary I could work on getting it directly into Ubuntu first20:49
ylatuyasebner: Hi!20:49
sebnerylatuya: hi ;)20:50
ari-tczewhello all20:50
ylatuyasebner: I let everything in your hands :) Thanks again for your help20:51
ScottKylatuya and sebner: It needs two motu-release acks for FFe.  I just gave one.20:52
funkyHatgrab-merge just told me "You almost certainly don't want to continue without investigating." < what should I investigate?20:52
sebnerScottK: I know, just wanted to ask what's the consens right now20:53
ScottKSince the current package seems broken in Karmic, not broken > broken.20:53
ari-tczewwho can accept bug #431080 ? I need info for follow work20:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 431080 in drupal6 "Fix critical security vulnerability (SA-CORE-2009-008)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43108020:54
fabrice_spfunkyHat, why does it say that to you?20:54
funkyHatfabrice_sp: it says "it looks like this package is maintained in revision control:" then lists some git urls20:55
fabrice_spfunkyHat, you can perform the merge20:55
fabrice_spwithout investigation, I mean20:56
ylatuyaScottK:sebner: The package itself is not broken. Are all the Mono packages broken due to #42038520:56
ScottKAh20:56
ScottKylatuya: Are you subscribed to bugs in Launchpad for the package?20:56
sebnerScottK: to be honest the current package wouldn't have entered Debian/Ubuntu since there was also a source file license issue.20:56
funkyHatAlso the package number that grab-merge has downloaded is confusing, there's a gpaint_0.3.3-3ubuntu1.src.tar.gz but that's the same debian version as the debian version it downloaded??20:56
ScottKsebner: Is that fixed in the new version?20:56
funkyHatIs that the point?20:57
sebnerScottK: yep20:57
ylatuyaylatuya: yes20:57
ScottKsebner: More reason to update20:57
funkyHatfabrice_sp: ok :)20:57
ScottKSo licensing fixes and upstream support are good reasons to update20:57
ylatuyaylatuya: 0.14.x is not maintained anymore20:57
sebnerScottK: yeah, wasn't sure because we are that late in the archive cycle.  I'll get active tomorrow :)20:57
fabrice_spfunkyHat, gpaint_0.3.3-3ubuntu1.src.tar.gz has been created by MoM. It's better to begin with a fresh debian directory, and incorporate the changes20:58
fabrice_sps/debian/debian package/20:59
fabrice_spthis way, you control better what changes you are doing20:59
funkyHatOh, so that tarball is just 0.3.3-3 with an ubuntu version bump tacked on?20:59
funkyHatno actual changes20:59
funkyHatOr an automated merge attempt?21:00
fabrice_span automate merge attempt21:00
fabrice_spbetter to unpack 0.3.3-3, and manually do the merge21:00
funkyHatOk, so I should ignore that and work straight from the debian package21:01
funkyHatRight21:01
jdong 21:01
fabrice_spso nobody can help me with the trac based download url for a watch file?21:02
ari-tczewfabrice_sp: what's the program?21:03
fabrice_sppurple plugins pack (http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/downloads)21:03
fabrice_sptrying to get the watch file fixed21:03
ari-tczewwhat's the program in ubuntu?21:04
fabrice_sppurple-plugin-pack21:04
fabrice_sp:-D21:04
ari-tczewYou have searched for packages that names contain purple-plugin-pack in all suites, all sections, and all architectures.21:05
ari-tczewSorry, your search gave no results21:05
fabrice_sphttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/purple-plugin-pack21:05
ari-tczewgive me a moment for that21:06
fabrice_spI'm trying to fix the watch file of this package21:06
fabrice_spok21:06
fabrice_sphave to go now. Will have a look tomorrow morning. bye!21:09
ari-tczewcya21:10
funkyHatwooo vimdiff is shiny21:11
ari-tczewhttp://plugins.guifications.org/trac/downloads/purple-plugin_pack-2.6.0.tar.gz21:16
ari-tczewthis link shoud be works, but doesn't accepted by uscan21:16
ari-tczewif someone is boring, feel free to play with it21:17
funkyHatIs there a command to unpack an original tarball and apply a debian source diff to it?21:19
ari-tczeware you mean about .diff.gz?21:20
funkyHatYeah21:20
debfxfunkyHat: if you have the .dsc file: dpkg-source -x21:20
funkyHatah :) thanks21:21
debfxif you want to download+unpack a source package you can use dget21:22
funkyHatdebfx: I already had  the source because  I'd used grab-merge21:22
ari-tczewwho is reviewing bugs refers to fix security bugs?21:24
ScottKari-tczew: For Karmic or earlier releases?21:25
ari-tczewScottK: both21:31
ari-tczewkarmic, jaunty, intrepid, hardy21:31
keesari-tczew: when you've got patches and you've tested them, please attach them to the bug and set the bug to "In Progress".  from there, the security team will sponsor the uploads.21:32
keesari-tczew: (for the stable releases)21:32
ScottKari-tczew: And regular sponsorship process for Karmic.21:32
ari-tczewouh, so I need to hack drupal ;-D (for testing)21:36
ari-tczewkees: if I'll done packages for test, could you test these?21:40
keesari-tczew: I'm sure I could figure it out, but it would be much easier if someone familiar with it (and the changes) did the testing.21:41
funkyHatOk, I'm trying to merge gpaint, and add a patch I've created to fix #44475021:43
funkyHatbug 44475021:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 444750 in gpaint "[papercut] CTRL-V doesnt paste in gpaint" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44475021:43
funkyHatAnd I'm not sure what to do about debian/changelog21:44
funkyHatI'm basically just keeping one change from Ubuntu (adding ${misc:Depends) to depends) and my patch, should I just keep debian's changelog and add what I'm changing?21:45
ari-tczewI'm not a hax0r so I can don't know how test it. :P21:45
ScottKari-tczew: You might ask for testing help in #ubuntu-server.21:47
ari-tczewOK21:51
funkyHatCan anyone tell me if I'm doing the right thing with this merge? :(21:52
ari-tczewfunkyHat: if you have done, upload to ppa :P21:54
funkyHatari-tczew: no I haven't yet, I'm not sure what to do about debian/changelog ^21:55
funkyHatI'm guessing I should just keep the new one from debian and put the changes I made on top21:55
DarxusfunkyHat: You should use dch -i to update the changelog.21:56
DarxusThat'll add something like -1ubuntu1 to the version.21:56
DarxusWhich is what you should do if you're merging from debian.21:56
funkyHatDarxus: well I'm not sure if I've done a proper merge, I've just re-applied the relevant Ubuntu changes to the new debian package21:57
DarxusfunkyHat: Open a bug if there isn't one (requesting the merge) and attach a debdiff.21:57
DarxusDid you check to see if there are any ubuntu specific changes in, say, debian/control?  For example, in hugin, a depends is added.21:58
DarxusfunkyHat: Do you know about MoM?  What's the package?21:58
funkyHatDarxus: Darxus gpaint, see about 20 lines above21:59
DarxusDo you know about MoM?21:59
ari-tczewfunkyHat: I suggest to you - read wiki.ubuntu.com22:00
DarxusHah.22:00
DarxusfunkyHat: Are you matt Wheeler?22:00
funkyHatDarxus: I grabbed the package from there using grab-merge but I was advised by fabrice_sp to unpack 0.3.3-3 and do the merge manually22:01
funkyHatDarxus: yes22:01
DarxusHe recommended the same to me.22:03
DarxusBut you should check MoM to make sure there's nothing else, like changes in debian/control, that need to be updated as well.22:03
funkyHatDarxus: I did that, see above22:05
DarxusThen what are you unsure about?22:05
funkyHatWhich debian/changelog I should keep, or should I merge them?22:05
funkyHatMy guess is I should just have debian's and make a note again at the top of the changes I've re-added for Ubuntu, but I wasn't sure22:06
DarxusfunkyHat: Oh, just use the debian one.22:06
DarxusWith your addition.22:06
funkyHatOk :)22:06
DarxusThe docs for mom give a specific format for a merge changelog entry.22:07
Darxus-Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}22:07
Darxus+Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}22:07
DarxusYou got that?22:07
funkyHatyeah22:08
DarxusCool.22:08
funkyHatAdding it to the changelog too22:08
DarxusSo you merged from debian and added key bindings?22:09
funkyHatYeah22:09
DarxusCool.22:09
funkyHatShould I file a separate bug for the merge?22:10
DarxusI don't know.22:11
funkyHatBefore I build the package, so I can add the magic to debian/changelog for the bug fix :)22:11
DarxusI think you should be fine doing both in one.22:11
funkyHatOk22:12
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funkyHatI'm using reportbug to report this bug upstream, does it matter that it's including a whole bunch of stuff about how I'm running ubuntu in the report?22:41
DarxusfunkyHat: No.23:01
DarxusWow, I'm surprised more packages FTBFS on i386 than amd64.23:04
ScottKDarxus: arch all packages are only built on i386, so it has a lot more packages.23:04
DarxusAh.  Seems like they should be built on all architectures.23:04
DarxusAre packages build tested continuously throughout the release cycle, or just at the end?23:05
ScottKIt varies.23:07
ScottKWe're a bit into a new process this cycle so we only managed it once.23:07
ScottKIt is supposed to be done two or three times.23:07
DarxusIt seems like it should be done continuously.23:08
ScottKGiven unlimited resourced, certainly.23:08
DarxusHeh, okay.23:08
ScottKresourced/resources23:08
DarxusUnlimited resources would be nice.23:09
DarxusI wonder if the SABDFL would be interested in throwing more machines at build testing.23:10
joaopintoIt would be cheaper to have a distributed build test farm23:11
ScottKI think we should have a better plan for it the next cycle.23:11
av`ScottK, what happened to the mentoring offers into LP?23:12
ScottKav`: Not sure, but I vaguely recall the removed the feature because it was almost unused.23:13
av`ScottK, yes, looks like it's now removed...but the wiki pages into help.l.n should be removed IMO23:13
av`there are documents about it that refers to nothing23:13
ScottKav`: You should take that up on #launchpad23:13
av`yep, true23:14
av`ScottK, amule is ready, gonna test it a bit again tomorrow, and then it should be ready for the upload23:14
av`tomorrow morning should be in I guess :)23:15
AmaranthDoes anyone know if there is a MC meeting in 9 hours? According to the wiki there should be but the next meeting time says a day that doesn't exist :)23:17
av`Amaranth, I see 24th of october23:18
Amaranthav`: And the last meeting was the 24th of September, thus the confusion23:19
Amaranthav`: It doesn't match the schedule so I'm assuming it's a typo23:19
av`Amaranth, tomorrow (friday 10) should be the second friday of the month23:19
DarxusLP's build system doesn't prioritize by wheither or not you're a motu, or canonical employee?23:20
av`Amaranth, but I dunno if the plans will be respected : /23:20
AmaranthRight, 9 hours from now matches the schedule23:20
av`yep23:20
av`Darxus, https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/BuildScores23:21
av`Amaranth, but I really don't know if there will be one tomorrow (7 utc)23:22
av`Amaranth, you should ping any motu-council member around23:22
ScottKActually is was sistpoty that was coordinating the meeting.  He doesn't seem to be around now.23:23
av`Amaranth, just be there at 7 utc to be sure :)23:24
Darxusvadi2: I read that, which is why I thought user status wasn't included in the priority.  Which seems weird.23:24
ScottKDarxus: They aren't23:25
DarxusWeird.23:25
DarxusThey should be, to encourage me to become an motu :P23:25
* funkyHat is already encouraged to become a motu, don't need no silly build status for that23:26
av`Darxus, what's the difference between having a build done today or tomorrow?23:26
funkyHat:P23:26
av`Darxus, simply nothing23:26
av`it's not the day that makes the difference23:26
av`if the delay is 1-2-3 days it's fine23:26
vadi2Darxus: huh?23:27
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