[00:00] <micahg> I was shown dch -e
[00:00] <micahg> or dch -i
[00:01] <asac> fta: its alrewady abandoned ... so its fine to keep
[00:02] <fta> i moved it to abandoned, in case it's needed later. i preferred that over a simple delete
[00:03] <asac> its the right choice imo
[00:04] <asac> you could have given it a more meaningful name, like "failed pack-0.92messOct09 ;)
[00:11] <fta> it's still possible, feel free to rename it
[00:16] <fta> asac, grrr, they applied 6 patches to browser.js today, it's totally different now
[00:17] <[reed]> fta: I have another one waiting to land as soon as the tree reopens ;)
[00:17] <fta> pff, i'm loosing my time then
[00:19] <micahg> asac, fta, should I bother rebasing the patch or wait till tomorrow?
[00:21] <[reed]> fta: it's 1.9.2 beta freeze time
[00:21] <[reed]> mad rush to land patches
[00:24] <asac> ripps: when is freeze?
[00:24] <asac> [reed]: ^^
[00:24] <asac> friday?
[00:24] <[reed]> supposed to be last night, moved to tonight, now looking like tomorrow or something? see release-drivers@ mail ;)
[00:25] <asac> good
[00:25] <fta> [reed], i was talking about trunk, hence 1.9.3, not 1.9.2
[00:25] <asac> so lets not care about daily breakage till tomorrow ;)
[00:25] <asac> fta: most stuff probably gets landed on trunk and 1.9.2 in parallel ;)
[00:25] <fta> 3.7 is in a bad shape right now, no more icons
[00:25] <asac> during rush
[00:25] <asac> fta: we had a theme issue that removed the icons from searchplugins
[00:25] <fta> i have a lot of icon only bookmarks
[00:25] <asac> that should be fixe though
[00:26] <asac> i never saw that "no icon thing" ... but read a few bug comment today that said its fixed
[00:26] <asac> but i guess its a different thing
[00:26] <fta> also, 3.7 often gives me blank pages, i have to hit reload to get them
[00:26] <asac> was 3.5
[00:28] <fta> right, 3.6 also lacks icons
[00:28] <[reed]> fta: yeah, I see that a lot
[00:28] <[reed]> [18:26:29] <fta> also, 3.7 often gives me blank pages, i have to hit reload to get them
[00:28] <[reed]> images also have blank lines in them
[00:28] <asac> fta: that could be a theme thing. are you up-to-date?
[00:29] <fta> i need to restart my desktop, new kernel, and i had to kill gnome-settings-daemon
[00:29] <fta>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[00:29] <fta>  2297 fta       20   0  452m 141m 4044 R   96  7.0  27:32.68 /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon
[00:29] <fta>  8893 fta       20   0 1085m 542m  21m R   33 26.9 217:19.24 /usr/lib/firefox-3.7a1pre/firefox-3.7
[00:30] <fta> 2 pigs
[00:31] <asac> yes. firefox mem consumption is really bad
[00:31] <asac> thundebird is even worse
[00:31] <asac> (3.x)
[00:31] <asac> fta: you should run nspluginwrapper to see how much flash steals you
[00:32] <asac> but even without flash ffox is pretty big still
[00:32] <[reed]> you should complain
[00:33] <asac> complain?
[00:33] <asac> about mem consumption=
[00:33] <[reed]> sure!
[00:33] <asac> from what i know thats the most frequently raised rant about ffox
[00:33] <asac> "what a memroy hoax"
[00:33] <asac> ;)
[00:34] <[reed]> well, taking so much memory and CPU shouldn't be happening
[00:34] <asac> point is i have no idea where the mem is lost
[00:34] <asac> yes, but its normal.
[00:34] <asac> if you read forums etc. they all complain about huge mem consumption
[00:34] <asac> for ages
[00:34] <[reed]>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[00:34] <[reed]>  4645 reed      20   0  690m 218m  39m S   33 11.1 103:33.56 firefox-bin
[00:35] <asac> how many tabs do you open at max?`
[00:35] <[reed]> currently, I only have 15 open, with one of those being a restore session window
[00:36] <[reed]> s/window/tab/
[00:36] <asac> ok. so i think most users that have those mem problems often have 100 tabs open or more
[00:36] <asac> i think fta averages at ~70 ;)
[00:36] <[reed]> I think something has regressed
[00:36] <asac> hmm. but your process looks quite healthy
[00:37] <asac> all i am saying is that i didnt see these memory issues in the past
[00:37] <asac> but in the recent history i started to use my browser with more tabs ... just to see
[00:37] <[reed]> yeah
[00:37] <asac> and i got loads of mem
[00:37] <fta> i have 52 tabs now, but i have ~30 the last few weeks with 3.7 as it's unbearable with more. a few months ago, i was almost always over 100
[00:37] <[reed]> you _really_ should file bugs
[00:37] <asac> in any case. ffox is quite slink if you compare it to tbird 3
[00:37] <asac> on amd64
[00:37] <asac> i had a 2gb system where i could run nothing else but tbird ... at least we have a a blocking bug on that atm ;)
[00:38] <micahg> I've got 302m in RES and 818m in VIRT for ff3.6
[00:38] <asac> i filed tbird bugs and they are cared of
[00:38] <asac> no ffox bugs though because i dont see much of a regression
[00:38] <asac> (but i am using 3.5 here because of my job)
[00:38] <micahg> a little better than 3.5 was
[00:39] <[reed]> kinda sucks about:memory doesnt work on Linux
[00:39] <[reed]> only on Mac and Windows
[00:39] <[reed]> :(
[00:39] <fta> asac, micahg: i let you guys fix 3.7 once [reed] lands its evil patches
[00:39] <micahg> is that why it doesn't work
[00:40] <asac> [reed]: when will you land it?
[00:40] <asac> micahg is probably awake a bit longer
[00:40] <asac> so can still rebase after that landing
[00:40] <[reed]> asac: tree is currently closed
[00:40] <asac> fta: good night
[00:40] <[reed]> can't land right now
[00:40] <asac> [reed]: ok ;)
[00:40] <fta> thanks
[00:40] <fta> u2
[00:40] <asac> yeah i am about to drop out :/
[00:41] <[reed]> mozilla bug 520422
[00:41] <micahg> [reed]: any reason why linux@distro.bugs isn't subscribed?
[00:41] <[reed]> no reason
[00:42] <micahg> that would be appropriate, right?
[00:42] <[reed]> if you want
[00:42] <asac> i think that should be ok
[00:42] <micahg> ugh
[00:42] <micahg> wrong alias
[00:44] <micahg> ok, done
[00:45] <asac> micahg: i dont see you on CC
[00:45] <asac> or did you explicitly uncheck it?
[00:45] <micahg> asac, refresh
[00:46] <asac> micahg: i see linux@ ... not you ... whats you email at bugzill?
[00:46] <asac> ah i see ;)
[00:46] <asac> ok
[00:46] <asac> quite long :)
[00:46] <micahg> yeah, I use aliases for filtering
[00:47] <asac> for me nothing works
[00:47] <asac> so i now dump everything into two gmail accounts
[00:47] <asac> ;)
[00:47] <asac> and only get assigned bugs to inbox and subscribed to some other folder i rarely read :/
[00:47] <micahg> it seems to work for me, but I'm sure you get more e-mail
[00:48] <asac> yeah. but i mailny do the gmail thing because i dont trust launchpad finding somethign if i hit search
[00:48] <asac> so i use tbird/gmail for searching for dupes etc
[00:48] <asac> but in times like this its the bug folder i watch ;)
[00:48] <asac> but i canot even keep up with incoming mails
[00:50] <[reed]> I tried using tbird 3
[00:50] <[reed]> it couldn't handle my e-mail
[00:50] <[reed]> I gave up
[00:51] <[reed]> went back to sylpheed
[00:51] <asac> how many mails do you have in one folder?
[00:51] <[reed]> my inbox has close to 100000
[00:51] <asac> my mozbug folder has "just" 100k
[00:51] <asac> and its a prob ;)
[00:51] <asac> yeah
[00:52] <micahg> mp lp inbox has 6k right now
[00:52] <micahg> *my
[00:52] <asac> it took like a day to index everything ;)
[00:52] <asac> micahg: thats good ;) ... you actually read all that :)
[00:52] <[reed]> yeah, and then indexing never completed on one of my other folders
[00:52] <micahg> that's the one I try to read
[00:52] <[reed]> lots of bugs
[00:52] <micahg> my lp bulk is almost at 2k
[00:52] <asac> it completed ... but mem was exorbitant hi ;)
[00:52] <micahg> I have 400 unread in it
[00:53] <asac> micahg: thats how it starts ;)
[00:53] <micahg> yes
[00:53] <[reed]> like "downloading 154 of 93 messages (140% done)"
[00:53] <[reed]> (made up numbers, but you get the point)
[00:53] <asac> hehe yeah.
[00:53] <asac> i think i even filed a bug about that > 100%
[00:53] <asac> when stuff comes faster in than indexing ;)
[00:54] <micahg> maybe tb should move to an embedded mysql db?
[00:54] <asac> i havent figured what they do atm
[00:54] <asac> wanted to check if they loose all the mem in the indexer
[00:54] <asac> but they do something like gload
[00:54] <asac> but all i found was javascript
[00:55] <asac> which i hope is not all ... because i think doing everything there would probably cause the mem probs
[00:55] <micahg> wow flash is really bad in karmic
[00:55] <asac> but maybe i am just old ;)
[00:55] <asac> micahg: what?
[00:55] <micahg> maybe 10.1 will be better
[00:55] <asac> nspluginwraper?
[00:55] <micahg> yeah
[00:55] <micahg> VIRT = 3050m
[00:55] <asac> fix it
[00:55] <asac> ;)
[00:56] <micahg> Adobe needs to release 64 bit...
[00:56] <asac> are you subscribed to flashplugin-nonfree package=
[00:56] <asac> currently i follow that too, and its like:
[00:56] <asac> i managed to fix this by 64-bit plugin ... but well, then i get this and that and those issues
[00:57] <micahg> yes
[00:58] <micahg> oh
[00:58] <micahg> no, not yet
[00:58] <asac> maybe i should start sending infos to the flash contacts i know :) .. .like status updates and making them aware etc.
[00:58] <micahg> I figured that one would be crazy
[00:58] <micahg> I'm subscribed to the 2 main bugs though
[00:58] <asac> didnt think it would help ... but well ;)
[00:58] <asac> micahg: its not worth subscribing
[00:58] <asac> i think i get it through the mozillabugs-list
[00:58] <micahg> well, I have enough trouble triaging the 3 ff pkgs
[00:58] <asac> usually its a dead end sunk
[00:58] <[reed]> Mozilla has Adobe contacts for flash bugs if you need to talk to somebody
[00:59] <asac> once you move bugs there they are gone forever ;)
[00:59] <[reed]> if you can find a reproducible testcase, file a bug on bmo
[00:59] <[reed]> with the detail
[00:59] <[reed]> s
[00:59] <asac> [reed]: i will check with what i have.
[01:00] <asac> in case that doesnt work i will try the moz road ;)
[01:00] <asac> but its not really about bugs ... just keeping them up-to-date
[01:00] <asac> so they get the feeling they know what to test and what is important
[01:01] <asac> [reed]: anyway. back to tbird ... now that it works, it works quite ok. the UI is a bit inconsitence ... like you get this web-like search result page
[01:01] <asac> but the old style treeview web folder view
[01:02] <asac> so for me (being a minority for sure) its quite good to search on my mailboxes ... which is why i have it
[01:04] <asac> ok off. ttysoon
[11:11] <gnomefreak> my damn search still doesnt work in 3.5
[11:15] <gnomefreak> asac: fta 3.5.4~hg20091005r26450+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1  search engine doesnt work still
[11:23] <asac> gnomefreak: do you see the bug where search engine doesnt do anything?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> asac: i see a shit load of bugs on search engine but right now i have people yelling at me there is no GUI to change GDM theme and i know you can do this cant recall how :(
[11:35] <gnomefreak> asac: just for the record firefox spell checker doesnt work either. << interject from -desktop convo
[11:36] <|eagles0513875|> morning
[11:39] <asac> gnomefreak: there are two search engine bugs: a) no icons ... b) not working
[11:39] <asac> i hope b) is less frequent
[11:39] <asac> i think a) should be fixed in latest theme
[11:44] <|eagles0513875|> asac: what do i need to do to join the mozilla team?
[11:45] <asac> contribute contribute contribute
[11:45] <gnomefreak> do you have the link to b
[11:45] <asac> in general, we only add folks that need regular write access to the branches
[11:45] <gnomefreak> i just looked through my bugs but found nothing relevant
[11:46] <asac> eagles0513875: you can feel yourself as part of the team even if not launchpad wise in the team
[11:46] <asac> its a different thing
[11:46] <asac> you basically are part of the team if you contribute in this channel
[11:46] <|eagles0513875|> gotcha
[11:46] <|eagles0513875|> whats the advantage of being on a team?
[11:47] <[reed]> by "contribute", asac means "contribute" large amounts of $$$ into his bank account
[11:47] <[reed]> :)
[11:47] <|eagles0513875|> hehe
[11:47] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:47] <|eagles0513875|> how you  doing gnomefreak
[11:48] <gnomefreak> mine too wouldnt hurt
[11:48] <asac> eagles0513875: you get more responsibility and more work ;)
[11:48] <asac> if you are a team member
[11:48] <asac> and you get a badge in launchpad ;)
[11:48] <|eagles0513875|> hehe well mine as well hehe im a broke bastard and student lol
[11:48] <|eagles0513875|> hehe
[11:48] <gnomefreak> |eagles0513875|: im ok and yourself
[11:48] <|eagles0513875|> in a lecture atm about databases talking about ERD
[11:48] <|eagles0513875|> entity relationship diagrams lol
[11:48] <gnomefreak> OK EVERYONE except reed please dont use non letters infront of your nick :(
[11:49] <|eagles0513875|> gnomefreak: sry im connected from home as well lol
[11:49] <asac> right. the benefit of mozillateam is that its far more important then the lectures ;)
[11:49] <|eagles0513875|> which i cant afford to be in then at the moment
[11:49] <gnomefreak> \its ok i was playing but i only nomrally see reed only
[11:49] <|eagles0513875|> well im to lazy to kick myself off irc remotly right now
[11:49] <|eagles0513875|> lol
[11:50] <gnomefreak> ok damnit ill be right back while i think a bit on this search engine problem, i have a feeling this is upstream but i will disable ubufox when i get back just to make sure
[11:56] <gnomefreak> asac: can med-xpi make a patch for install.rdf (i know not now) but is it possible for it to?
[11:56]  * gnomefreak thinks no
[11:57] <|eagles0513875|> im literally about to go nuts withboredom here
[11:57] <|eagles0513875|> cant even work on bindwood :( they blocked all downloads here
[11:59]  * gnomefreak though bindwood was done. and i think i just found the problem 
[11:59] <gnomefreak> yep found it, now i need to know what is causing it
[12:00] <gnomefreak> asac: extension is the problem now to find out what one
[12:01] <gnomefreak> context menu if i had to guess
[12:01] <gnomefreak> thats the one
[12:02] <gnomefreak> its not broke but if you choose "light settings" it doesnt work. it even says some features will not work
[12:12]  * gnomefreak be back
[12:18] <gnomefreak> asac: does debian/rules accept * as a wild card in the clean section?
[12:20] <asac> gnomefreak: not sure what you mean
[12:20] <asac> need examp.
[12:20] <gnomefreak> asac:  i would have to look at the rules file but something like *FireGPGCall  to generalize the dirs. its in
[12:21]  * gnomefreak thinking of getting this done before 10.04 so we can sync from sid
[12:22] <gnomefreak> dtchen: when you are around can you ping me about pulseaudio. it keeps muting after upgrades.
[12:32] <gnomefreak> !info firefox-3.5 jaunty
[12:33] <|eagles0513875|> bots broken :P
[12:33] <gnomefreak> nope :)
[12:34] <gnomefreak> thunderbird however is broke
[12:35]  * asac upgrades last jaunty machine i found somewhere http://identi.ca/notice/11589053
[12:36] <|eagles0513875|> canadian website lol
[12:36] <|eagles0513875|> asac: didnt know you were from canada
[12:37] <asac> identica
[12:37] <asac> canadians are great ;)
[12:37] <gnomefreak> |eagles0513875|: hes not
[12:38] <|eagles0513875|> O_O
[12:38] <|eagles0513875|> they whats up with the canadian website
[12:39] <gnomefreak> dont know but it is busy at times
[12:40] <|eagles0513875|> hehe
[12:41] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 369693 im starting to think it only happens with ubuntu remix. In the past (not sure if still open) alot of remix bugs that non-remix users dont see
[12:41] <asac> the title reads "UNR" ;)
[12:41] <gnomefreak> im thinking either upstream doesnt support something or we dont
[12:41] <gnomefreak> asac: but a firefox bug
[12:41] <gnomefreak> that is where we come in
[12:42] <asac> i made a more specific bug out of it
[12:42] <asac> its a msising gnome-support in the seed from what i can tell
[12:42] <asac> please ask if installing firefox-gnome-support and restarting system helps
[12:42] <asac> afaik it should be fixed already
[12:43] <gnomefreak> asked. should we do this with all UNR firefox/tbird bugs?
[12:47] <asac> no
[12:47] <asac> unless they are -gnome-support related
[12:48] <asac> as i said i think its fixed alreawdy
[12:48] <asac> so every bug should be a valid bug if its UNR
[12:48] <asac> identica is down
[12:48] <asac> that sucks
[12:48] <gnomefreak> k
[12:48] <gnomefreak> Lp giving me issues ;)
[12:49] <gnomefreak> my script still has ~2hours to go
[12:52] <gnomefreak> just that one bug seems to be giving me issues
[13:06] <gnomefreak> asac: how important are exit code status' on the xulrunner failure to install/upgrade?
[13:08] <asac> gnomefreak: failure to install/upgrades should not happen
[13:08] <asac> we should fix it
[13:08] <asac> and exit codes might be involved. yes.
[13:09] <gnomefreak> i have a 127 a 135 and looking at others
[13:09] <gnomefreak> one atleast is alternatives but IIRC we fixed that since july
[13:09] <asac> are all those related to "alternatives" ß
[13:09] <asac> ?
[13:09] <gnomefreak> at least that one anyway
[13:09] <asac> search for "alternat"
[13:10] <asac> in the logs
[13:10] <gnomefreak> not sure yet
[13:10] <asac> look for that
[13:10] <asac> thats a known dupe and i thought we fixed that already
[13:10] <asac> have to check that again if its still broken
[13:10] <gnomefreak> asac: looks like bug 390664 is related
[13:11] <asac> yes thats it
[13:11] <gnomefreak> these are old
[13:11] <asac> update-alternatives: Fehler oder EOF beim Lesen von /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/xulrunner
[13:11] <asac> thats it
[13:11] <asac> so yes. but that should be fixed
[13:11] <gnomefreak> the one i have that im looking for dupes is new bug 441098
[13:12] <asac> gnomefreak: that one is a crash
[13:12] <asac> Setting up xulrunner-1.9.1 (1.9.1.3+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.2) ...
[13:12] <asac> Bus error
[13:13] <gnomefreak> i just saw that
[13:13] <asac> Bus error is really rare on i386 and amd64 systems
[13:13] <asac> more like sparc and arm that have alignment
[13:13] <asac> gnomefreak: its most likely a hardware error
[13:13] <asac> like mem etc. if you get a bus error on intel CPUs
[13:13] <asac> (exceptions proof the rule obviously)
[13:14] <asac> so this guy might get over by triying again
[13:14] <asac> to upgrade
[13:14] <asac> if its a mem broken he is doomed anyway ;)
[13:22] <fta> asac, Mark wants me to split the umd ppa per package
[13:22] <fta> he said "The Mozilla Daily PPA is *awesome* :-)"
[13:24] <asac> yep
[13:24] <fta> apparently, he wants tb3 alone
[13:25] <gnomefreak> tb3 is broken :(
[13:26] <|eagles0513875|> :(
[13:26] <asac> tb3 works for me
[13:26] <asac> too much mem
[13:27] <asac> but thats it basically
[13:27] <gnomefreak> a tbird only PPA is kind of wasteful IMHO
[13:27] <fta> noone complained to me about broken tb3
[13:27] <gnomefreak> asac: too much mem and edit >select > all doesnt work
[13:28] <gnomefreak> fta: i did a couple of days but you were not here at the time
[13:28] <asac> gnomefreak: file a bug upstream if its reproducible for anyone else
[13:28] <asac> i dont write mails with it ... just read
[13:28] <fta> as for memory, it's somewhat the same xul-is-a-pig effect as with firefox
[13:28] <asac> no
[13:28] <asac> its worse
[13:28] <asac> tbird indexer is a huge memory eater
[13:29] <asac> right after firing up it indexes stuff etc. and then consumes 1g of res mem
[13:29] <gnomefreak> asac: i use that menu for deleting emails. with 800+ emails it comes in handy
[13:29] <asac> firefox doesnt get anywhere close even after using it for a few days
[13:29] <gnomefreak> i agree with asac its tbird releated mem problems. no other app does this for me at least
[13:30] <gnomefreak> i dont have 1 gig of mem but same applies
[13:30] <asac> fta: i think we should discuss the whole layoutfor all webtech ppas in the next week and also fix the daily split in that turn
[13:30] <asac> gnomefreak: we have a upstream blocker bug on the mem
[13:30] <asac> i am supposed to follow up but failed as usual :/
[13:31] <gnomefreak> asac: do you have link so i can subscribe?
[13:31] <asac> ask me tonight again
[13:31] <asac> i am finishing something and then travelling
[13:31] <gnomefreak> ok
[13:36] <gnomefreak> asac: i know you are traveling but try to get sunbird into karmic before freeze since it doesnt qulify for security release only arm fixes im not sure if they would or not
[13:38] <gnomefreak> this damn download is taking forever
[13:40] <asac> gnomefreak: i saw that you didnt start on top of current one in sunbird
[13:40] <asac> thats kind of a merge mess i have to admit
[13:40] <bdrung> gnomefreak: why did you mark bug 436600 as invalid?
[13:40] <gnomefreak> asac: huh? i started on ubuntu2
[13:41] <gnomefreak> bdrung: its not firefox its adblock-plus
[13:41] <bdrung> ok, didn't saw that
[13:41] <gnomefreak> more than likely its another extension helping in the failure
[13:42] <asac> no
[13:42] <asac> you didnt start on ubuntu2
[13:42] <asac> you started on ubuntu2 UNRELEASED
[13:42] <asac> and made ubuntu3 out of it
[13:43] <gnomefreak> asac: ubuntu2 was released already
[13:43] <asac> yes. but your branch doesnt start on top of that
[13:43] <gnomefreak> someone didnt change to jaunty when they pushed
[13:43] <asac> the release is rev 124
[13:44] <gnomefreak> * fix LP: #210534 - bad swedish translation in sunbird.desktop; we
[13:44] <gnomefreak>     apply improved translation by Daniel Nylander
[13:44] <gnomefreak>     - update debian/sunbird.desktop
[13:44] <gnomefreak> should have been the latest before ubuntu3
[13:45] <|eagles0513875|> ill b back on from home
[13:45] <gnomefreak> search doesnt work again :(
[13:46] <asac> gnomefreak: thats what i fixed now http://paste.ubuntu.com/288588/
[13:46] <asac> gnomefreak: no that was not th elatest
[13:46] <asac> 124 was the latest
[13:46]  * gnomefreak looking
[13:46] <asac> anyway. i think thats fine how
[13:46] <asac> now
[13:47] <asac> you also had a typo in changelog and and empty * line
[13:47] <gnomefreak> oh crap i see now
[13:47] <asac> ok i pushing the merge now
[13:47] <asac> please check on the main branch
[13:47] <gnomefreak> forgot to remove the * line when i used dch
[13:48] <asac> gnomefreak: that and the debianpathces: series updatd
[13:48] <asac> anyway i hope all is fixed
[13:48] <asac> plesae verify on release branch
[13:48] <gnomefreak> asac: ok doing
[13:52] <asac> gnomefreak: you used CXX=g++-4.4 now
[13:52] <asac> we should just drop it
[13:52] <asac> e.g. we are back to "normal" version
[13:52] <asac> so no need to set CXX and CC
[13:52] <asac> anyway. thats _fater_ this upload
[13:52] <asac> also i think we should break the build-depends in multiple lines
[13:52] <asac> also for lucis
[13:52] <asac> lucid
[13:53] <gnomefreak> asac: ok simple enough. i would love to get 1.0 in Lucid but that is unllikely from what i can tell at this time anyway
[13:53] <asac> yeah
[13:53] <asac> first fine tune packaging a bit
[13:54] <asac> the points i mentioned are good
[13:54] <asac> then we can check whats up with 1.0
[13:54] <gnomefreak> missed * Fixes (LP: #178785) as first line
[13:54] <asac> no
[13:54] <asac> gnomefreak: that was already fixed in last upload
[13:54] <asac> see the changelog entry before
[13:54] <asac> thats what i meant
[13:54] <gnomefreak> asac: not fully it wasnt
[13:54] <asac> well. it was
[13:54] <asac> i can see that the rest might also be there
[13:54] <gnomefreak> i had to adjust rules a bit to fix it
[13:54] <asac> but that wasnt clear to me
[13:54] <asac> ok
[13:55] <asac> i thihnk we will survive with out it?
[13:55] <asac> or want me to add it?
[13:55] <asac> was the bug reopened?
[13:55] <gnomefreak> everything looks good i will close that bug by hand
[13:55] <asac> ok let me coomit that right changelog entry
[13:56] <gnomefreak> k
[13:56] <gnomefreak> ~40 more minutes for download. i want to do updates :(
[13:57] <asac> gnomefreak: ok. recommitted it with proper credits and all
[13:58] <asac> i am firing off a testbuild now and will upload when that finishes
[13:58] <asac> gnomefreak: mark the 9.10 branch merged now ;)
[13:59] <gnomefreak> asac: will do. it would be great if there was a bzr update lp...... to update a branch to latest rev if not your branch
[14:00] <gnomefreak> i when i get back from smoke and phone
[14:08] <gnomefreak> opps wrong button. fixed now
[14:16] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/firefox-trunk-rss-mem.png
[14:16] <asac> fta: yeah. is that 32-bit?
[14:16] <fta> yes
[14:16] <asac> thats bad then ;)
[14:17] <asac> but depends on the tab count of course ;)
[14:17] <fta> the box was idle
[14:17] <asac> fta: so according to [reed] we should file these bugs
[14:17] <fta> freshly rebooted
[14:17] <asac> i always thought they knew they were considered mem hungry
[14:17] <asac> but seems they dont even recognize it (dont ask me how that can happen)
[14:18] <asac> fta: ok but thats with flash in-process?
[14:18] <asac> would be interesting to see how that changes if you use nspluginwrapper
[14:18] <asac> i would expect half the mem go out to the flash process
[14:18] <fta> the tabs were from my session but didn't change during the period
[14:18] <fta> yes, regular flash install, not nsp
[14:19] <asac> yeh. for a upstreawm bug i think it would make sense to split that and do the same testing
[14:20] <gnomefreak> ubuntu is telling me my printer is out of paper but my printer does not agree
[14:23] <fta> asac, this i don't understand: http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/firefox-trunk-cpu-mem.png
[14:23] <fta> asac, cpu seems to cool off while idle
[14:29] <fta>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[14:29] <fta> 14382 fta       20   0 2398m 1.2g 4452 R   99 60.4   1:30.74 evolution
[14:29] <fta> i just tried to open an attachment :(
[14:30] <asac> gnomefreak: uploaded sunbird
[14:31] <asac> fta: good. so evolution is not better ;)
[14:31] <asac> (than tbird)
[14:34] <asac> gnomefreak: in case it fails to build or something let me know. please try to watch sunbird bugs for the next few days so we can still do something in case hell breaks loose now
[14:34] <asac> thx
[14:42] <gnomefreak> asac: ok will check. on 386 64 and what ever else PPA builds they all built
[14:42] <gnomefreak> eveolution sucks tbird much better ;)
[14:45] <gnomefreak> omg cpu at %99
[15:14] <fta> evo is usually pretty good for me
[15:14] <fta> fta      16760  2.3  5.0 264912 104180 ?       Sl   15:33   0:56 evolution --component=mail
[15:15] <fta> except when it turns crazy
[15:46] <fta> asac, was the 3.7 patch rebased since yesterday?
[15:46] <fta> asac, 14min before the next respin
[16:14] <asac> fta: check if micahg submitted a branch for merging
[16:15] <asac> probably he waited for reed to confirm his commit
[16:15] <asac> i think we agreed to not fix it before reed committed it
[16:15] <asac> then we re in freeze and things should stop to come in
[16:15] <asac> when we are in RC freeze i will pursue the upstreaming again
[16:22] <fta> asac, rc freeze for 3.6, i'm talking about 3.7
[16:22] <asac> fta: yes. but that rc freeze led to the frequent landings
[16:22] <asac> because folks have to put their rush first in central
[16:23] <asac> and reed couldnt committ there because it was closed
[16:31] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/Chromium-peacekeeper.png
[16:32] <asac> interesting
[16:33] <fta> ff scores ~1300 :(
[16:35] <asac> there is more than speed ;)
[16:40] <fta> memory? lol, ff is bad
[16:40] <fta> cpu, lol too, 30%, it's even worse
[16:41] <asac> please do the nspluginwrapper split ;)
[16:41] <asac> to get any valid data
[16:42] <asac> for me flash really spikes the CPU frequently
[16:42] <asac> ffox stays ok
[16:42] <asac> it has some hangs ... for some operations but besides from that its not really CPU hungry
[16:53] <fta> http://www.google.org/flutrends/
[16:56] <fta> asac, bad for uds: http://www.google.org/flutrends/us/
[16:57] <fta> Mook_sb, stevel: still no news for the fix?
[16:58] <Mook_sb> fta: sorry, been busy for a bit - is there a bug number on this?
[16:59] <fta> Mook_sb, i didn't file any, stevel said he needed to talk to someone about this, last week
[16:59] <stevel> ah yeah, preed. but he's still pretty swamped with kanye work.
[16:59] <stevel> fta: do you have the pastebin URL still?
[16:59] <stevel> or wherever the build failure was pasted?
[17:00] <Mook_sb> stevel: https://launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ppa/+build/902277/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.songbird_1.1.1-0ubuntu1~fta2~intrepid_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ?
[17:00] <fta> no
[17:00] <Mook_sb> err, wait, wrong branch
[17:01] <fta> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33252980/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.songbird_1.5.0~a~svn20091007r15244-0ubuntu1~usd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[17:01] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/288708/
[17:02] <fta> i build with --enable-system-sqlite
[17:02]  * Mook_sb suspects killing the $LIB_SUFFIX on http://src.songbirdnest.com/source/xref/client/components/dbengine/src/Makefile.in#69 will help
[17:03] <Mook_sb> also, we don't seem to have a --enable-system-sqlite (at least, not that configure.ac is aware of)
[17:04] <fta> i build your xul with --enable-system-sqlite
[17:04] <fta> so i don't have the .a
[17:04] <Mook_sb> right, but that's in vendor-deps, not in xulrunner
[17:04] <fta> even less a "libsqlite3.a.a"
[17:04] <Mook_sb> (there's, like, way too many copies of sqlite involved)
[17:05] <Mook_sb> /build/buildd/songbird-1.5.0~a~svn20091007r15244/build-tree/songbird/compiled//build/buildd/songbird-1.5.0~a~svn20091007r15244/build-tree/songbird/dependencies/linux-i686/sqlite/release/lib/libsqlite3.a.a
[17:05] <Mook_sb> meaning what's really missing is /build/buildd/songbird-1.5.0~a~svn20091007r15244/build-tree/songbird/dependencies/linux-i686/sqlite/release/lib/libsqlite3.a
[17:05] <Mook_sb> (and then the build system tried to be smart and totally fell flat on its face)
[17:06] <fta> well, i don't really want to build another libsqlite3.a, i'm happy enough with the system shared lib
[17:07] <fta> ok, disabling the ppa until it's sorted out, no need to waste builder resources on that
[17:09] <Mook_sb> okay; it sounds like the bug you want to file is "have a --enable-system-sqlite option"?
[17:11] <jcastro> fta: around?
[17:13] <fta> jcastro, yes
[17:14] <jcastro> fta: kenvandine was telling me that gwibber is all ready to go, just needs an upload?
[17:14] <fta> Mook_sb, sort of, the ".a.a" is also a bug in itself
[17:15] <fta> jcastro, yep, i told him i'll do it then we found a last minute packaging theme bug, it's ok now, i will do it shortly
[17:15] <Mook_sb> fta: yeah, that's just it trying to be smart, and assuming it was a short name relative to $objdir
[17:15] <Mook_sb> (it also added the .../songbird/compiled/ to the front)
[17:15] <jcastro> fta: ok cool I was just wondering, he had to step out today so I just wanted to make sure it didn't get lost. You rock. \m/
[17:16] <fta> asac, uh? Rejected: xulrunner-1.9.1_1.9.1.4~hg20091008r26463+nobinonly-0ubuntu2~umd1.dsc: Version older than that in the archive. 1.9.1.4~hg20091008r26463+nobinonly-0ubuntu2~umd1 <= 1.9.1.5~hg20091007r26461+nobinonly-0ubuntu2~umd1
[17:20] <asac> sigh
[17:20] <asac> i am wsting my time with flight booking
[17:20] <asac> took me about 2 hours already with call centers and stuff
[17:21] <asac> and still no flight :/
[17:21] <asac> fta: thats again the same bug as before?
[17:21] <asac> umd doesnt like us bumping to ubuntu2?
[17:21] <asac> e.g. releasing stuff _higher_ than what we have in daily
[17:22] <fta> no, it seems upstream downgraded 1.9.1.5 to 1.9.1.4
[17:22] <fta> same for 3.5.5 to 3.5.4
[17:29] <fta> asac, ^^
[17:36] <asac> maybe
[17:37] <asac> could also be wrong way to find the head
[17:37] <asac> did you fix it to not use "tip" ?
[17:37] <asac> but "defautl" ?
[17:37] <asac> so ... i will kill someone
[17:37] <asac> at some point
[17:41] <fta> uh?
[17:46] <fta> jcastro, done
[17:46] <jcastro> hero
[18:27] <micahg> asac: would it be bad for me to comment about linux distro issues in moz.dev.planning?
[18:42] <LLStarks> sup asac
[18:43] <asac> micahg: if you want to raise specific points on behalf of the mozillateam we should look at that together i think
[18:43] <asac> otherwise you are a free man ;)
[18:44] <micahg> asac: http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_thread/thread/6c8f06fbdf745d72#
[18:45] <LLStarks> asac, for the autocomplete bug, right-clicking clears up the symptoms. it's still a bug that needs fixing.
[18:45] <asac> let me check with someone
[18:46] <LLStarks> you said that you wanted me to do a xulrunner build, right?
[18:47] <asac> LLStarks: yes. apt-get source xulrunner-1.9.1; sudo apt-get build-dep xulrunner-1.9.1; sudo apt-get install devscripts; cd xulrunner-1.9.1*/
[18:47] <asac> then edit debian/rules and remove all --enable-system-sqlite stuff from it
[18:47] <asac> and build using debuild -b
[18:47] <asac> install the packages and check
[18:51] <LLStarks> will do.
[19:00] <LLStarks> asac, how about this: ifneq (1,$(USE_SYSTEM_SQLITE))
[19:00] <LLStarks> 	dh_link $(DEBIAN_XUL_DIR)/libsqlite3.so $(DEBIAN_XUL_DIR)/libsqlite3.so.0
[19:01] <LLStarks> here's the file so far: http://pastebin.com/m473fe674
[19:01] <LLStarks> what needs to be removed still and how should i remove?
[19:05] <asac> LLStarks: there is no metnion of system-sqlite ... if oyu only removed that it should be fine
[19:06] <LLStarks> #
[19:06] <LLStarks> ifneq (1,$(USE_SYSTEM_SQLITE))
[19:07] <LLStarks> that's fine?
[19:09] <LLStarks> whatever, compiling.
[19:15] <micahg> asac: BTW, manually using WEP didn't work for me
[19:15] <asac> micahg: config problems? or worked once but was not stable?
[19:15] <asac> LLStarks: i dont know. i need to see diffs
[19:15] <micahg> it wouldn't connect
[19:15] <asac> LLStarks: dont know exactly how USE_SYSTEM_SQLITE is set etc.
[19:16] <asac> we already have features to be smart about that
[19:16] <asac> so no need to improve in general
[19:16] <micahg> I also tried the regular backports which stayed connected by had packet loss
[19:16] <micahg> and a custom backport with the same issue
[19:16] <asac> micahg: you could verify that your manual setup works with the backports
[19:16] <asac> if it never worked at all its probably not properly set up
[19:17] <LLStarks> asac, what's the correlation between using system-wide sqlite and the error? is data not being stored properly?
[19:17] <asac> its a test
[19:17] <asac> nothing more
[19:17] <asac> i want to know if its because we have a slightly different sqlite or maybe compiled differently etc.
[19:25] <fta> micahg, i don't see what you should complain about, if upstream wants to branch or release, it's their choice, packaging will have to follow. ihmo, less branches is better, it means less work
[19:26] <micahg> fta: well, if we have 3.5 as a default with no chance of updates within the first 6 months, I think that's a problem
[19:27] <micahg> it might not be a major factor, but it should at least be considered
[19:27] <fta> depends when 3.5 becomes EOL
[19:28] <micahg> fta: well, that's the issue :)
[19:28] <fta> but even so, asac used to maintain 1.5.* until recently
[19:28] <fta> ;)
[19:28] <micahg> yes, but that's a lot of work I would think
[19:30] <micahg> after the next ubuntu release, I don't think it matters as much if 3.5 is supported
[19:30] <micahg> but until Lucid, I would think that we should be able to providde updates to the default browser
[19:38] <asac> :(
[19:39] <asac> we have to think about it
[19:39] <asac> i dont want to go through the matyrium of backports again for 2.5 years
[19:39] <asac> for 3 different releases
[19:39] <asac> and so on
[19:39] <micahg> indeed
[19:40] <asac> i am sure we could employ a full team just for that
[19:40] <asac> micahg: so did [reed] land his patches so we can rebase?
[19:41] <micahg> I didn't see them land yet...trying to remember if I subscribed...
[19:42] <micahg> no, he hasn't landed anything yet
[19:42] <micahg> on m-c
[19:42] <asac> micahg: he doesnt do the patches on his own ... just commits for others usually
[19:42] <micahg> oh...
[19:42] <asac> micahg: so you wont see him as author as he explicitly gives credits to woever made the patch
[19:43] <asac> next time we should ask him for a bug id ;)
[19:43] <micahg> there are some new patches landed
[19:43] <micahg> right :)
[19:43] <asac> well. i think there is not a single day where not at least 20 patche land ;)
[19:43] <micahg> but I don't see anything about plugins
[19:43] <asac> on central :)
[19:43] <micahg> I"m looking at that one file
[19:43] <asac> ah
[19:43] <asac> ok
[19:44] <asac> browser/content/browser.js ?
[19:44] <micahg> yes
[19:44] <asac> browser/base...
[19:44] <micahg> well, browser/base/content/
[19:44] <micahg> http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/log/7d0c4369c0d1/browser/base/content/browser.js
[19:46] <asac> http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_thread/thread/6c8f06fbdf745d72?pli=1
[19:46] <asac> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=448669
[19:46] <asac> that one ;)
[19:46] <asac> i would expect something out of that to be waiting
[19:46] <asac> nope. all are closed and the ones not are not ready
[19:47] <asac> shrug
[19:47] <asac> i think we should just rebase then
[19:47] <asac> dont wait
[19:48] <micahg> ok
[19:49] <micahg> I'll do it this evening
[19:51] <[reed]> [13:42:40] <asac> micahg: he doesnt do the patches on his own ... just commits for others usually
[19:51] <[reed]> that's entirely not true!
[19:51] <[reed]> I do patches for myself all the time, especially over the last year or so
[19:51] <[reed]> I committed two patches myself yesterday that I wrote
[19:53] <micahg> so, [reed], is the onslaught of changes to that file done?
[19:54] <asac> [reed]: sorry
[19:54] <asac> i just generalized
[19:55] <asac> [reed]: i didnt want to make the point that you dont do patches, but that you are usually one of th few good guys
[19:55] <asac> that commits stuff for others
[19:57] <[reed]> ;)
[20:05] <LLStarks> asac, finished compiling. ready to test.
[20:07] <asac> LLStarks: check that you have a libsqlite.so in the xulrunner package after doing this
[20:07] <asac> libsqlite3.so
[20:07] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks for the push got lots of email from it :)
[20:08] <asac> gnomefreak: feedback? or launchpad?
[20:08] <gnomefreak> asac: launchpad closing bugs
[20:08] <gnomefreak> havent gotten too far into email
[20:09] <gnomefreak> asac: would OO.o build the same way as any other package? AFAIK its concidered a script
[20:09] <LLStarks> /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.1.3/libsqlite3.so.0
[20:09] <LLStarks> that what you're looking for?
[20:10] <micahg> gnomefreak: OO.o is a nightmare to build
[20:10] <gnomefreak> micahg: oh/
[20:10] <gnomefreak> micahg: whats wrong with it?
[20:11] <micahg> took 9 hours, 25 minutes, 27.2 seconds
[20:11] <micahg> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/1:3.1.1-2ubuntu4/+build/1271601
[20:11] <gnomefreak> micahg: you building it for hardy?
[20:11] <micahg> no
[20:11] <micahg> that's for karmic
[20:11] <gnomefreak> ok
[20:11] <fta> [reed], are you done with your patches?
[20:12] <gnomefreak> im going to spin it for hardy at least start on it today or tomorrow
[20:12] <micahg> last hardy build: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ppa/+build/1269617
[20:13] <micahg> gnomefreak: did you check the backports team?
[20:13] <gnomefreak> micahg: this is about the bug for backports
[20:13] <gnomefreak> micahg: i do some backports work
[20:13] <micahg> ah
[20:14] <gnomefreak> i knew OO.o is huge and wish they would make it smaller but i dont dare ask them to :)
[20:16] <LLStarks> oo.o and go-oo are lumbering dinosaurs
[20:18] <micahg> yeah, but for the size, it's a good product
[20:28] <gnomefreak> be back in a bit
[20:35] <gnomefreak> ok stop fixing gwibber please well 1 more time
[20:36] <gnomefreak> it gets fixed mine breaks
[20:36] <gnomefreak> and no errors in the errors window
[20:37] <gnomefreak> fta: asac tbird edit > select >all works again with latest upload
[20:55] <LLStarks> asac, what's next?
[21:12] <gnomefreak> ok where did he go
[21:13] <gnomefreak> ok found him now smoke than bug :)
[21:14] <asac> LLStarks: all installed? paste output of dpkg -L xulrunner-1.9.1
[21:17] <gnomefreak> asac: are you using daily gwibber or Karmic version?
[21:19] <asac> gnomefreak: neither. i wanted to try again after next upload because it was too broken
[21:19] <gnomefreak> asac: gwibber isnt the problem i dont think
[21:19] <gnomefreak> WARNING:root:desktopcouch is not available. .  falling back to gconf
[21:19] <gnomefreak> gconf was broken yesterday
[21:20] <gnomefreak> but would be great to use desktopcouch
[21:21] <asac> kenvandine: ^^
[21:21] <gnomefreak> asac: kenvandine http://paste.ubuntu.com/288812/
[21:22] <gnomefreak> thats output
[21:22]  * gnomefreak smoke
[21:26] <kenvandine> the desktopcouch code is all disabled in gwibber
[21:26] <kenvandine> it was too new and experimental before feature freeze so we disabled it until after karmic
[21:26] <asac> kenvandine: meaning? next upload will make this go away?
[21:26] <asac> hmm. so gnomefreak is running dailies? ok
[21:27] <kenvandine> no... it has been outputting that for months
[21:27] <gnomefreak> yep i am
[21:27] <asac> ah ok. so the crash is unrelated
[21:27] <kenvandine> that just means it isn't using desktopcouch
[21:27] <kenvandine> yeah
[21:27] <gnomefreak> 2.0.0~bzr465-0ubuntu2~daily1
[21:27] <gnomefreak> so i should drop to karmic version?
[21:28] <kenvandine> karmic version should match that actually
[21:28] <gnomefreak> same version for most part
[21:28] <kenvandine> r465 should including the proper theme stuff
[21:28] <gnomefreak> ubuntu1 > ubuntu2
[21:28] <asac> i have 449
[21:28] <kenvandine> dpkg -L gwibber |grep theme
[21:28] <asac> kenvandine: hmm. that backtrace has "theme" related stuff ;)
[21:29] <kenvandine> yeah
[21:29] <asac> ah ok. you are on it ;)
[21:29] <kenvandine> which is what is weird
[21:29]  * gnomefreak shows alot of themese
[21:29] <gnomefreak> themes
[21:29] <kenvandine> there was a bug, when another theme bug was fixed it uncovered the package wasn't installing the themes
[21:29] <kenvandine> gnomefreak, should be 3
[21:29] <kenvandine> gilouche, default and compact
[21:29] <kenvandine> and they each should have a theme.version file
[21:30] <gnomefreak> ok i will try update again but i never got a 3
[21:30] <kenvandine> pastebin that list please
[21:30] <gnomefreak> http://paste.ubuntu.com/288817/
[21:31] <gnomefreak> i have all 3
[21:32]  * gnomefreak thinks this is asking alot but a standalone profile would be great
[21:33] <fta> gnomefreak, karmic version is the same as the daily one, i just pushed it on behalf of kenvandine earlier today
[21:33]  * gnomefreak also thinks liferea should include a option to post a blog not just read it
[21:33] <gnomefreak> i still dont have ubuntu3
[21:33] <kenvandine> gnomefreak,  gconftool-2 --get /apps/gwibber/preferences/theme
[21:33] <gnomefreak> fta: karmic version == ubuntu1 daily == ubuntu2
[21:34] <fta> it's the same trust me
[21:34] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: it outputs "shine"
[21:34] <fta> the daily bot has its way to number stuff
[21:34] <gnomefreak> fta: ah ok
[21:36] <kenvandine> gnomefreak, change it to default
[21:36] <kenvandine> if that fixes it
[21:36] <kenvandine> let me know asap
[21:36] <kenvandine> :)
[21:37] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: if it lets me i will change it from UI
[21:38] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: thats odd
[21:38] <gnomefreak> it was default and now the accounts page opens lets see if i can use it
[21:40] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: editor never displays
[21:40] <fta> kenvandine, any darkroom friendly theme planed for gwibber anytime soon?
[21:41] <gnomefreak> ah i found it
[21:41] <gnomefreak> asac: i just repllied to your post about sunbird
[21:42] <kenvandine> fta, not sure, i think ryan is working on it
[21:42] <kenvandine> i know nothing about the theme stuff, sorry
[21:42] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: ok back to same bug as before the crashing. cant clear window/stream
[21:42] <asac> gnomefreak: i posted something about sunbird?
[21:42] <kenvandine> ok, traceback please
[21:42] <asac> oh ... dent
[21:42] <asac> ok
[21:43] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/288822/
[21:43] <gnomefreak> asac: yes dent
[21:43] <asac> k. saw it now
[21:44]  * asac  wants a usable gwibber
[21:44] <gnomefreak> me too :)
[21:44] <kenvandine> AttributeError: 'GwibberClient' object has no attribute 'tabs'
[21:44] <kenvandine> weird
[21:44] <kenvandine> gnomefreak, please file a bug... i need ryan to look at that
[21:44] <gnomefreak> mine works for the most part so yours should asac
[21:44] <kenvandine> can't see why that is happening
[21:44] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: ok
[21:44] <kenvandine> sorry
[21:45] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: np
[21:45] <kenvandine> asac, 449 was pretty broken
[21:45] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: thanks for getting me this far it is usable
[21:45] <kenvandine> well, we have fixed a ton of bugs since then :)
[21:45]  * gnomefreak not so fond of the new UI
[21:45]  * gnomefreak hates ubuntu-bug now
[21:46] <fta> mine is ok, a bit ugly but ok
[21:46] <gnomefreak> its too big i liked the small UI
[21:46] <fta> a few errors in the console though
[21:46] <fta> asac, try the karmic one (465)
[21:47] <kenvandine> gnomefreak, you can hide the account tree again if you like
[21:47] <kenvandine> it is fixed now
[21:49] <asac> fta: getting it now in upgrade
[21:49] <asac> fta: but you are runnig tree mode? or the "old" mode?
[21:49] <asac> (i prefer the old mode)
[21:50] <asac> "Republicans are hateful" (rms)
[21:50] <asac> http://identi.ca/notice/11619481
[21:50] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/Gwibber.png
[21:50] <asac> today it was me hating the world i thought ;)
[21:50] <asac> fta: yeah thats the tree view
[21:54] <gnomefreak> kenvandine: bug 446692 filed
[21:55] <gnomefreak> old mode? it looks nothing like the old version <2.0
[21:55] <gnomefreak> mine locked me up while trying to refresh
[21:56] <gnomefreak> fta: can you clear your window/stream
[21:56] <asac> gnomefreak: in view -> account tree ... if you uncheck that its "old" mode in my speak
[21:56] <fta> asac, old mode works for me, but i don't like it
[21:56] <gnomefreak> asac: ah old to me was before it got a really big window
[21:57] <fta> gnomefreak, why would you want to clear a stream?
[21:57] <asac> gnomefreak: without account view its not really much bigger imo
[21:57] <gnomefreak> fta: well its an option and it cleans up the window
[21:59] <fta> i tried, it crashed
[21:59] <gnomefreak> mine wont crash but gives a traceback
[21:59] <gnomefreak> window stays open just doesnt do anything
[22:00] <fta>    File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/gwibber/client.py", line 943, in on_clear
[22:00] <fta>      for tab in self.tabs.get_children():
[22:00] <fta>  AttributeError: 'GwibberClient' object has no attribute 'tabs'
[22:00] <fta> kenvandine, ^^
[22:00] <gnomefreak> fta: its same as mine by looks of it
[22:00] <gnomefreak> fta: bug 446692
[22:00] <fta> you can't close a search tab either
[22:01] <fta> at least not by clicking the icon
[22:01] <gnomefreak> mine closed
[22:02] <gnomefreak> used search box on top and than closed
[22:03] <gnomefreak> 3 hours to download source :( ill play with OO.o tomorrow
[22:05]  * gnomefreak didnt know you can dent from gmail. wonders if identca is able to be an account in tbird under feed readers
[22:06] <fta> i meant a user tab
[22:06] <fta> or group
[22:06] <gnomefreak> http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/07/lawsuit-dr-phil-trapped-me-touched-my-boob/
[22:07] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[22:07] <gnomefreak> he was an asshole before the above link and IMHO still
[22:16] <gnomefreak> seems 3.5 is lagging really bad
[22:21] <asac> ok i think gwibber is up-to-date
[22:21]  * asac hopes and kicks it
[22:21] <asac> kick-started ... there it is ;)
[22:21] <asac> good -> the input field is visible without any interaction ;)
[22:22] <asac> i think the non-tree view can be improved
[22:22] <asac> definitly makes not much sense with all those nested elements
[22:23] <asac> hmm. the "user subscription" is also hidden
[22:23] <asac> that should be below search directly. though it was there at some point
[22:34] <fta> asac, a bit late in this cycle though
[22:34] <asac> sure
[22:34] <asac> i think its ok for this cycle
[22:34] <asac> as it is
[22:34] <asac> i just want to think about it in general ;)
[22:49] <asac> kenvandine: so mako is the jsp for webkit/python?
[22:52] <fta> [reed] ?
[22:54] <asac> for a in self.accounts: data += a
[22:54] <asac> the beauty of python ;)
[22:56] <asac> "yield a" ... wth is yield? ... thought that was giving threads some time to rest ;)
[22:57] <asac> http://docs.python.org/reference/simple_stmts.html#the-yield-statement
[22:59] <asac> ok its coroutine
[23:01] <[reed]> fta: ?
[23:04] <asac> ?
[23:04] <asac> ;)
[23:45] <[reed]> [16:58:24] <fta> [16:52:01] [reed] ?
[23:51] <fta> [reed], u done landing your patches?
[23:51] <[reed]> yes
[23:54] <micahg> fta: I'll rebase later tonight
[23:54] <micahg> asac can merge in the morning
[23:54] <fta> micahg, ok, great
[23:54] <micahg> I guess I need to do 3.7 and 3.6