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Pici20:27:25 <rww> Phrea: Sexuality is not a good topic of conversation for this channel, because it attracts stupidity.01:27
Pici+101:28
FlannelI... don't think Phrea was using the term 'gay' to refer to sexuality.  Although, to be honest, I don't really see what precipitated it at all.01:29
PiciFlannel: I have no idea why he said it either01:29
gordim just trying to not have the -ot channel explode into anarchy like it can late at night01:30
Flannelgord: It's 530 in the afternoon!01:30
* Flannel hides01:30
macoFlannel: unless they were using it to mean "happy" then thats not so good IMO01:31
gordits gord is a very tired bunny o'clock01:31
Flannelmaco: Thats really the only usage I could see fitting, and even that's not a very good fit01:31
maco"don we now our gay apparel..."01:33
elkyuh... who saw that quit message...01:33
macowhere?01:33
Pici20:32:37 >>>> Shadowwolf (n=DarkLord@unaffiliated/shadowwolf) has quit ["I've come to the conclusion...It's not considered rape, if you yell, "SURPRISE!!!" beforehand!"]01:34
macoO_o01:34
Flannelmaco: I know the definition, but "be happy" just doesnt fit in response to the previous stuff01:35
macoFlannel: i dont know what was gong on before. i just joined -ot01:36
Pici20:24:50 <Phrea> dude, be gay01:37
macohaha i had a friend in high school who was gay so when he was depressed i'd tell him to "be both meanings"01:37
Picimaco: There was no context, it pretty much came out of the blue01:37
Valkyrie{Gentoo}=P waaazzzzzzzzzzzzaaaaaaap03:03
FlannelValkyrie{Gentoo}: How can we help you today?03:04
Valkyrie{Gentoo}I have no clue why..but i really want my ban lifted..well..its more of a sorry i did a bad thing..03:05
=== heHATEme is now known as vorian
nhandlerI was wondering if anyone in here would be interested in leading an Opne Week session about Ubuntu and IRC. You could talk about proper behavior on IRC, how to properly request assistance, etc04:14
naliothnhandler: aren't you qualified?04:15
nhandlernalioth: I probably could, but I only have time to prepare/lead one session for Open Week04:15
mneptoknhandler: remind when Open Week is ...05:50
pleia2mneptok: Nov 2-605:51
mneptokpleia2: thanks05:54
* mneptok checks calendar05:54
mneptoki may be able to do it.05:54
mneptoknhandler: ^^^05:55
mneptokValkyrie{Gentoo}: the person who originally placed your ban is unwilling to remove it. seeing that one of the last times you asked you brought a bot into this channel that then /ctcp'ed every channel member, i'm inclined to agree. i have doubts you'll find any op that is going to support removing the ban.05:56
bazhangI suspect navwolf is less than sincere07:14
bazhangoh nice quit msg07:16
macowas about to say the same thing07:18
* maco rolls eyes07:18
macoarch trolls...07:18
bazhang##arch-ftw as a channel was an indicator07:18
jussi01mneptok: I havent much time to prepare as my thesis is eating it, but I can probably make it to the session to do it with you if you like. so long as it isnt on wednesday.07:29
mneptokjussi01: fingure out what day works best for you and i'll propose a session for that day07:30
jussi01mneptok: thursday would be good...07:30
mneptokk07:30
* jussi01 has thesis seminar on the wednesday that week07:31
mneptokah, so Thursday is "i have a full week to procrastinate" day07:32
Valkyrie{Gentoo}mneptok, it didnt CTCP everyone, it was a thing i built in, that in THIS server, and this server only, instead of doing a /me action, it somehow requests a CTCP ACTION07:38
* Valkyrie{Gentoo} Shruhs07:38
* Valkyrie{Gentoo} Shrgs07:38
Valkyrie{Gentoo}fgb;,rgbrgbrb, i need sleep07:38
Valkyrie{Gentoo}r.r07:39
bazhangValkyrie{Gentoo}, please dont idle here.07:39
Valkyrie{Gentoo}bazhang, i just got back, didnt realize that i was even in here anymore07:39
Valkyrie{Gentoo}AND, if i recall, it says "we reserve the right to remove idlers"07:40
Valkyrie{Gentoo}So, if you have an issue with me forgeting, you COULD have removed me07:40
Valkyrie{Gentoo}Thanks tho.07:40
bazhangValkyrie{Gentoo}, as was discussed previously, there is no idea of removing your bans07:40
bazhangwhoops07:40
bazhang<Jester05> oh no, its so hard to come back on via proxy07:42
bazhanghis response to reading coc and guidelines ^^07:42
=== jussi01 changed the topic of #ubuntu-ops to: Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu IRC Team operators | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam | This channel is for operator/abuse questions in the IRC Team domain only | Support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | LoCo channel discussion/issues etc to #ubuntu-irc | Please exit the channel once your issue is dealt with so we can keep track of pending issues. | We reserve the right to remove idlers from the channel | Channel is logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.
Flannelchopped!07:42
jussi01Flannel: ?07:43
Flannel| Channel is logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.07:43
jussi01bollocks!07:43
bazhanghehe07:43
mneptokjussi01: no thanks. i brought my own.07:44
=== jussi01 changed the topic of #ubuntu-ops to: Welcome to the home of the Ubuntu IRC Team operators | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam | This channel is for operator/abuse questions in the IRC Team domain only | Support in #ubuntu, #kubuntu etc... | LoCo channel discussion/issues etc to #ubuntu-irc | Please exit the channel once your issue is dealt with. | We reserve the right to remove idlers from the channel | Channel is logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Be good!
ubottuDJones called the ops in #ubuntu (internetlol)11:35
elkyinteresting part reason...11:36
jpdsI was bored.11:37
bazhangwonder if that was jimmy_birer again11:38
nhandler_mneptok: It is November 2 - November 6: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep12:09
=== nhandler_ is now known as nhandler
ikoniahello akgraner13:05
akgranerikonia, hi!13:05
akgranermneptok, hi..13:06
ikoniawhat's up akgraner ?13:06
akgranerwell a little bird told me to ask mneptok if they would like to do an open week session on IRC basics and behavior?13:07
ikoniaahhh yes13:07
bazhangheh13:07
akgranerit had been suggested we add it to the list of sessions13:07
akgraner:-D13:07
akgranerSpeaking from just me personally, I am figuring it out as I go, but would  absolutely love to be in a session where I can ask questions about how to do things...13:08
akgranerhere is the wiki.. and the slots that are open.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep13:10
akgranerif someone could take a look and see who might want to facilitate it that would be AWESOME...:-)13:11
akgranerplease and thank you!13:11
bazhangfunny note on that wiki page: Let's just add her without asking  :)13:30
Piciwho?13:32
Picioh, n,13:32
Picim13:32
jussi01akgraner:13:36
jussi01[09:29:42] <jussi01> mneptok: I havent much time to prepare as my thesis is eating it, but I can probably make it to the session to do it with you if you like. so long as it isnt on wednesday.13:36
jussi01[09:30:18] <mneptok> jussi01: fingure out what day works best for you and i'll propose a session for that day13:36
jussi01[09:30:34] <jussi01> mneptok: thursday would be good...13:36
jussi01[09:30:40] <mneptok> k13:36
akgranerbazhang, she was with us at OLF when we added that comment...14:07
akgranerjussi01, thurs 2200  would that work?14:08
akgranerI can go ahead and schedule it..14:08
jussi012200UTC?14:08
akgraneryep.. that too late for ya?14:09
akgranerthe morning slots I have to rearrange and move the Friday morning stuff into14:09
akgranerbut that will free up 1500UTC on Friday...14:10
jussi01hrm.14:10
jussi01friday is out.14:10
jussi01thursday afternoon would be ideal.14:10
jussi01or even evening, but not too late.14:10
jussi01Im in utc+214:11
akgranerhmm ok.. let me see what we can rearrange... I'll pop back in in just a few and let you know.. ok?14:11
jussi01ok14:20
bazhangakgraner, nice :)14:26
akgranerjussi01, ok so I can free up 1700utc on Thursday...14:29
akgranerso is it ok to put the session there...14:30
akgranerif james and daniel don't need 1500 and 1600 I will try to bump you up a couple hours...14:30
eviljussi01akgraner: 1700 should be fine for me. just make doubly sure with mneptok14:34
akgranerok14:36
geniiIn freenode web gateway hostmask like 59f473dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-ihungskpmmvmkkxt the 59f473dd part is unique to that user? Same guy ad-spammed twice in #k hostmask was same but for the /x-whatevertext part second time15:27
* genii sips15:29
pleia2genii: yes, that's the ip address in hex15:30
geniipleia2: Aaaah, OK. Unfortunately if they are on a dhcp lease banning that id is pretty useless I'd guess since they just need to release/renew for another off their ISP   :/15:33
* genii hands tsimpson a coffee15:34
* tsimpson attempts to type with a new (US variant) keyboard15:34
Picitsimpson: Hi!15:35
tsimpsonhello :)15:36
* MenZa waves to tsimpson 15:44
naliothwill this run every 4 hours? (i'm no good at cronjob lexicon) * */4 * * * /usr/local/bin/target15:44
* tsimpson waves back to MenZa 15:45
Picinalioth: yes.15:45
Picinalioth: Actually... no.15:46
PiciYou want: 0 */4 * * * /stuff15:46
naliothgrazi15:47
naliothas a general announcement, mootbot logs should show up on the server no later than 4 hours from any particular time17:04
pleia2nalioth: hooray!17:17
fccfhey something was brought to my attention about !fsck in ubottu ... the 'shutdown -F -r now' in the factoid is incorrect because -F has been depricated in 'shutdown' ... something we could consider fixing, and if so how?19:01
fccf!fsck19:01
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot19:01
MenZafccf: definitely. I'm still on an old old release, so I couldn't tell you what the fix is, but thanks for pointing that out19:07
FlannelWhat's the new method?19:07
FlannelOh, GRUB2 stuff?19:07
gordeven then, its not like grub2 is forced on you. i expect there will be grub1 users out there for a long time yet19:19
Flannelgord: except shutdown doesn't take -F or -f anymore apparently19:21
Flannelso, they're forced to touch /forcefsck and /fastboot it seems19:21
fccfso, 'sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now' would be correct in place of 'sudo shutdown -F -r now'19:23
MenZawhat an odd way to do it.19:25
fccfMenZa: but if19:25
fccfthe -F isn't there anymore and you wanted to force a fsck on the system that would be the way to do it19:26
MenZasure, sure19:26
MenZabut still19:26
MenZait's interesting how there is no better way to do it.19:27
MenZaI don't like the idea of putting a file in your / to let GRUB know you want to fsck.19:27
FlannelMenZa: -F and -f just do that.  shutdown drops the file into / before it turns off19:30
Flannelbut, I think GRUB2 mumbo jumbo takes over, although I have no G2 experience to back that up19:30
mneptokfccf: i never got my jersey and helmet.19:34
MenZaaha.19:36
fccfmneptok: been there done that got the tee shirt < isn't that the way it was supposed to be19:40
mneptokfccf: i refer to this comment in #ubuntu:19:41
mneptok11:57 < fccf> llutz: I'll be bringing that one up with my team19:41
mneptok:)19:41
ubottuIn ubottu, fccf said: !fsck is <reply> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot19:41
fccfmneptok: I made the request ... as you can see :-*19:42
mneptoki didn't realize we were "your team" :)19:43
fccfmneptok: actually I brought it up with #ubuntu-california and someone suggested I bring it here19:44
* MenZa huggles fccf19:46
mneptokfccf: if you think it's broken, and should be addressed, file a bug in LP19:47
mneptoksubscribe the core devs to it19:47
* fccf looses breath and /forces MenZa to stop squeezing so hard19:48
MenZa:P19:48
fccfmneptok: I don't see it as broken ... I see it as a change, that came with GRUB2 and the latest version of shutdown ... should be addressed for !karmic release, at the very least19:49
mneptokIIRC, -F didn't work as far back as Edgy19:51
* MenZa never forces fsck checks. Uses Live CDs.19:52
* fccf supports alot of people with ubottu's factoids, and likes to give good information19:53
Amaranthfccf: This isn't twitter, btw19:53
fccfAmaranth: I wasn't tweeting, I was making a point, sorry to offend if I did19:55
Amaranthfccf: No no, I meant the !karmic bit19:55
AmaranthThat's what people do on twitter when talking about something :)19:55
fccfAmaranth: oh, habit I guess, we are starting to get alot of requests for !karmic in #ubuntu that we send to #ubuntu+1 and I have the habit of typing Karmic with a !19:58
MenZa:P20:03
fccfNow that I have made my point in here, I will not stand IDLE , ya'll know how to find me if you need my advice ( which I certainly hope you don't ) this seems really obvious to me20:03
Flannelmneptok: -F works in Jaunty20:10
Flannelor, according to the manpage anyway: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/en/man8/shutdown.8.html20:11
FlannelHmm, I wonder if /fastboot and /forcefsck are still honored20:11
Picignomefreak: fyi, hes getting good support in #ubuntu-bugs too.20:47
PiciCrossposting is rude imho.20:48
gnomefreakPici: good thanks i can get back to work than :)20:48
ubottuIdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (szelu and wino92  been told several times to speak english)20:59
starcraftmanlo, there a free op around to do me a quick favor? I dunno why, but starcraftman_ nick refuses to timeout on freenode. Its an unregistered nick so can't ghost it off.21:28
naliothstarcraftman: i believe you want #freenode for this.  I can save you a trip this time - unregistered nicks just have to time out on their own21:29
starcraftmannalioth, hmmm, its been a long time, timeout isn't supposed to take more than a day no?21:30
starcraftmannalioth, thanks for info anyhow.21:30
naliothstarcraftman: if it's been more than "a day", i'd check your machine for rogue processes21:30
starcraftmannalioth, I thought so too, task manager been clear though on both (just this one running). I'll reboot and shall see. Have nice day.21:31

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