[01:27] <Pici> 20:27:25 <rww> Phrea: Sexuality is not a good topic of conversation for this channel, because it attracts stupidity.
[01:28] <Pici> +1
[01:29] <Flannel> I... don't think Phrea was using the term 'gay' to refer to sexuality.  Although, to be honest, I don't really see what precipitated it at all.
[01:29] <Pici> Flannel: I have no idea why he said it either
[01:30] <gord> im just trying to not have the -ot channel explode into anarchy like it can late at night
[01:30] <Flannel> gord: It's 530 in the afternoon!
[01:30]  * Flannel hides
[01:31] <maco> Flannel: unless they were using it to mean "happy" then thats not so good IMO
[01:31] <gord> its gord is a very tired bunny o'clock
[01:31] <Flannel> maco: Thats really the only usage I could see fitting, and even that's not a very good fit
[01:33] <maco> "don we now our gay apparel..."
[01:33] <elky> uh... who saw that quit message...
[01:33] <maco> where?
[01:34] <Pici> 20:32:37 >>>> Shadowwolf (n=DarkLord@unaffiliated/shadowwolf) has quit ["I've come to the conclusion...It's not considered rape, if you yell, "SURPRISE!!!" beforehand!"]
[01:34] <maco> O_o
[01:35] <Flannel> maco: I know the definition, but "be happy" just doesnt fit in response to the previous stuff
[01:36] <maco> Flannel: i dont know what was gong on before. i just joined -ot
[01:37] <Pici> 20:24:50 <Phrea> dude, be gay
[01:37] <maco> haha i had a friend in high school who was gay so when he was depressed i'd tell him to "be both meanings"
[01:37] <Pici> maco: There was no context, it pretty much came out of the blue
[03:03] <Valkyrie{Gentoo}> =P waaazzzzzzzzzzzzaaaaaaap
[03:04] <Flannel> Valkyrie{Gentoo}: How can we help you today?
[03:05] <Valkyrie{Gentoo}> I have no clue why..but i really want my ban lifted..well..its more of a sorry i did a bad thing..
[04:14] <nhandler> I was wondering if anyone in here would be interested in leading an Opne Week session about Ubuntu and IRC. You could talk about proper behavior on IRC, how to properly request assistance, etc
[04:15] <nalioth> nhandler: aren't you qualified?
[04:15] <nhandler> nalioth: I probably could, but I only have time to prepare/lead one session for Open Week
[05:50] <mneptok> nhandler: remind when Open Week is ...
[05:51] <pleia2> mneptok: Nov 2-6
[05:54] <mneptok> pleia2: thanks
[05:54]  * mneptok checks calendar
[05:54] <mneptok> i may be able to do it.
[05:55] <mneptok> nhandler: ^^^
[05:56] <mneptok> Valkyrie{Gentoo}: the person who originally placed your ban is unwilling to remove it. seeing that one of the last times you asked you brought a bot into this channel that then /ctcp'ed every channel member, i'm inclined to agree. i have doubts you'll find any op that is going to support removing the ban.
[07:14] <bazhang> I suspect navwolf is less than sincere
[07:16] <bazhang> oh nice quit msg
[07:18] <maco> was about to say the same thing
[07:18]  * maco rolls eyes
[07:18] <maco> arch trolls...
[07:18] <bazhang> ##arch-ftw as a channel was an indicator
[07:29] <jussi01> mneptok: I havent much time to prepare as my thesis is eating it, but I can probably make it to the session to do it with you if you like. so long as it isnt on wednesday.
[07:30] <mneptok> jussi01: fingure out what day works best for you and i'll propose a session for that day
[07:30] <jussi01> mneptok: thursday would be good...
[07:30] <mneptok> k
[07:31]  * jussi01 has thesis seminar on the wednesday that week
[07:32] <mneptok> ah, so Thursday is "i have a full week to procrastinate" day
[07:38] <Valkyrie{Gentoo}> mneptok, it didnt CTCP everyone, it was a thing i built in, that in THIS server, and this server only, instead of doing a /me action, it somehow requests a CTCP ACTION
[07:38]  * Valkyrie{Gentoo} Shruhs
[07:38]  * Valkyrie{Gentoo} Shrgs
[07:38] <Valkyrie{Gentoo}> fgb;,rgbrgbrb, i need sleep
[07:39] <Valkyrie{Gentoo}> r.r
[07:39] <bazhang> Valkyrie{Gentoo}, please dont idle here.
[07:39] <Valkyrie{Gentoo}> bazhang, i just got back, didnt realize that i was even in here anymore
[07:40] <Valkyrie{Gentoo}> AND, if i recall, it says "we reserve the right to remove idlers"
[07:40] <Valkyrie{Gentoo}> So, if you have an issue with me forgeting, you COULD have removed me
[07:40] <Valkyrie{Gentoo}> Thanks tho.
[07:40] <bazhang> Valkyrie{Gentoo}, as was discussed previously, there is no idea of removing your bans
[07:40] <bazhang> whoops
 oh no, its so hard to come back on via proxy
[07:42] <bazhang> his response to reading coc and guidelines ^^
[07:42] <Flannel> chopped!
[07:43] <jussi01> Flannel: ?
[07:43] <Flannel> | Channel is logged at http://irclogs.ubuntu.
[07:43] <jussi01> bollocks!
[07:43] <bazhang> hehe
[07:44] <mneptok> jussi01: no thanks. i brought my own.
[11:36] <elky> interesting part reason...
[11:37] <jpds> I was bored.
[11:38] <bazhang> wonder if that was jimmy_birer again
[12:09] <nhandler_> mneptok: It is November 2 - November 6: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep
[13:05] <ikonia> hello akgraner
[13:05] <akgraner> ikonia, hi!
[13:06] <akgraner> mneptok, hi..
[13:06] <ikonia> what's up akgraner ?
[13:07] <akgraner> well a little bird told me to ask mneptok if they would like to do an open week session on IRC basics and behavior?
[13:07] <ikonia> ahhh yes
[13:07] <bazhang> heh
[13:07] <akgraner> it had been suggested we add it to the list of sessions
[13:07] <akgraner> :-D
[13:08] <akgraner> Speaking from just me personally, I am figuring it out as I go, but would  absolutely love to be in a session where I can ask questions about how to do things...
[13:10] <akgraner> here is the wiki.. and the slots that are open.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Prep
[13:11] <akgraner> if someone could take a look and see who might want to facilitate it that would be AWESOME...:-)
[13:11] <akgraner> please and thank you!
[13:30] <bazhang> funny note on that wiki page: Let's just add her without asking  :)
[13:32] <Pici> who?
[13:32] <Pici> oh, n,
[13:32] <Pici> m
[13:36] <jussi01> akgraner:
[13:36] <jussi01> [09:29:42] <jussi01> mneptok: I havent much time to prepare as my thesis is eating it, but I can probably make it to the session to do it with you if you like. so long as it isnt on wednesday.
[13:36] <jussi01> [09:30:18] <mneptok> jussi01: fingure out what day works best for you and i'll propose a session for that day
[13:36] <jussi01> [09:30:34] <jussi01> mneptok: thursday would be good...
[13:36] <jussi01> [09:30:40] <mneptok> k
[14:07] <akgraner> bazhang, she was with us at OLF when we added that comment...
[14:08] <akgraner> jussi01, thurs 2200  would that work?
[14:08] <akgraner> I can go ahead and schedule it..
[14:08] <jussi01> 2200UTC?
[14:09] <akgraner> yep.. that too late for ya?
[14:09] <akgraner> the morning slots I have to rearrange and move the Friday morning stuff into
[14:10] <akgraner> but that will free up 1500UTC on Friday...
[14:10] <jussi01> hrm.
[14:10] <jussi01> friday is out.
[14:10] <jussi01> thursday afternoon would be ideal.
[14:10] <jussi01> or even evening, but not too late.
[14:11] <jussi01> Im in utc+2
[14:11] <akgraner> hmm ok.. let me see what we can rearrange... I'll pop back in in just a few and let you know.. ok?
[14:20] <jussi01> ok
[14:26] <bazhang> akgraner, nice :)
[14:29] <akgraner> jussi01, ok so I can free up 1700utc on Thursday...
[14:30] <akgraner> so is it ok to put the session there...
[14:30] <akgraner> if james and daniel don't need 1500 and 1600 I will try to bump you up a couple hours...
[14:34] <eviljussi01> akgraner: 1700 should be fine for me. just make doubly sure with mneptok
[14:36] <akgraner> ok
[15:27] <genii> In freenode web gateway hostmask like 59f473dd@gateway/web/freenode/x-ihungskpmmvmkkxt the 59f473dd part is unique to that user? Same guy ad-spammed twice in #k hostmask was same but for the /x-whatevertext part second time
[15:29]  * genii sips
[15:30] <pleia2> genii: yes, that's the ip address in hex
[15:33] <genii> pleia2: Aaaah, OK. Unfortunately if they are on a dhcp lease banning that id is pretty useless I'd guess since they just need to release/renew for another off their ISP   :/
[15:34]  * genii hands tsimpson a coffee
[15:34]  * tsimpson attempts to type with a new (US variant) keyboard
[15:35] <Pici> tsimpson: Hi!
[15:36] <tsimpson> hello :)
[15:44]  * MenZa waves to tsimpson 
[15:44] <nalioth> will this run every 4 hours? (i'm no good at cronjob lexicon) * */4 * * * /usr/local/bin/target
[15:45]  * tsimpson waves back to MenZa 
[15:45] <Pici> nalioth: yes.
[15:46] <Pici> nalioth: Actually... no.
[15:46] <Pici> You want: 0 */4 * * * /stuff
[15:47] <nalioth> grazi
[17:04] <nalioth> as a general announcement, mootbot logs should show up on the server no later than 4 hours from any particular time
[17:17] <pleia2> nalioth: hooray!
[19:01] <fccf> hey something was brought to my attention about !fsck in ubottu ... the 'shutdown -F -r now' in the factoid is incorrect because -F has been depricated in 'shutdown' ... something we could consider fixing, and if so how?
[19:01] <fccf> !fsck
[19:07] <MenZa> fccf: definitely. I'm still on an old old release, so I couldn't tell you what the fix is, but thanks for pointing that out
[19:07] <Flannel> What's the new method?
[19:07] <Flannel> Oh, GRUB2 stuff?
[19:19] <gord> even then, its not like grub2 is forced on you. i expect there will be grub1 users out there for a long time yet
[19:21] <Flannel> gord: except shutdown doesn't take -F or -f anymore apparently
[19:21] <Flannel> so, they're forced to touch /forcefsck and /fastboot it seems
[19:23] <fccf> so, 'sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now' would be correct in place of 'sudo shutdown -F -r now'
[19:25] <MenZa> what an odd way to do it.
[19:25] <fccf> MenZa: but if
[19:26] <fccf> the -F isn't there anymore and you wanted to force a fsck on the system that would be the way to do it
[19:26] <MenZa> sure, sure
[19:26] <MenZa> but still
[19:27] <MenZa> it's interesting how there is no better way to do it.
[19:27] <MenZa> I don't like the idea of putting a file in your / to let GRUB know you want to fsck.
[19:30] <Flannel> MenZa: -F and -f just do that.  shutdown drops the file into / before it turns off
[19:30] <Flannel> but, I think GRUB2 mumbo jumbo takes over, although I have no G2 experience to back that up
[19:34] <mneptok> fccf: i never got my jersey and helmet.
[19:36] <MenZa> aha.
[19:40] <fccf> mneptok: been there done that got the tee shirt < isn't that the way it was supposed to be
[19:41] <mneptok> fccf: i refer to this comment in #ubuntu:
[19:41] <mneptok> 11:57 < fccf> llutz: I'll be bringing that one up with my team
[19:41] <mneptok> :)
[19:42] <fccf> mneptok: I made the request ... as you can see :-*
[19:43] <mneptok> i didn't realize we were "your team" :)
[19:44] <fccf> mneptok: actually I brought it up with #ubuntu-california and someone suggested I bring it here
[19:46]  * MenZa huggles fccf
[19:47] <mneptok> fccf: if you think it's broken, and should be addressed, file a bug in LP
[19:47] <mneptok> subscribe the core devs to it
[19:48]  * fccf looses breath and /forces MenZa to stop squeezing so hard
[19:48] <MenZa> :P
[19:49] <fccf> mneptok: I don't see it as broken ... I see it as a change, that came with GRUB2 and the latest version of shutdown ... should be addressed for !karmic release, at the very least
[19:51] <mneptok> IIRC, -F didn't work as far back as Edgy
[19:52]  * MenZa never forces fsck checks. Uses Live CDs.
[19:53]  * fccf supports alot of people with ubottu's factoids, and likes to give good information
[19:53] <Amaranth> fccf: This isn't twitter, btw
[19:55] <fccf> Amaranth: I wasn't tweeting, I was making a point, sorry to offend if I did
[19:55] <Amaranth> fccf: No no, I meant the !karmic bit
[19:55] <Amaranth> That's what people do on twitter when talking about something :)
[19:58] <fccf> Amaranth: oh, habit I guess, we are starting to get alot of requests for !karmic in #ubuntu that we send to #ubuntu+1 and I have the habit of typing Karmic with a !
[20:03] <MenZa> :P
[20:03] <fccf> Now that I have made my point in here, I will not stand IDLE , ya'll know how to find me if you need my advice ( which I certainly hope you don't ) this seems really obvious to me
[20:10] <Flannel> mneptok: -F works in Jaunty
[20:11] <Flannel> or, according to the manpage anyway: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/en/man8/shutdown.8.html
[20:11] <Flannel> Hmm, I wonder if /fastboot and /forcefsck are still honored
[20:47] <Pici> gnomefreak: fyi, hes getting good support in #ubuntu-bugs too.
[20:48] <Pici> Crossposting is rude imho.
[20:48] <gnomefreak> Pici: good thanks i can get back to work than :)
[21:28] <starcraftman> lo, there a free op around to do me a quick favor? I dunno why, but starcraftman_ nick refuses to timeout on freenode. Its an unregistered nick so can't ghost it off.
[21:29] <nalioth> starcraftman: i believe you want #freenode for this.  I can save you a trip this time - unregistered nicks just have to time out on their own
[21:30] <starcraftman> nalioth, hmmm, its been a long time, timeout isn't supposed to take more than a day no?
[21:30] <starcraftman> nalioth, thanks for info anyhow.
[21:30] <nalioth> starcraftman: if it's been more than "a day", i'd check your machine for rogue processes
[21:31] <starcraftman> nalioth, I thought so too, task manager been clear though on both (just this one running). I'll reboot and shall see. Have nice day.