[00:22] <JanC> Crypia: what has gdm to do with Ubuntu Server?  ;)
[00:35] <Crypia> JanC: oh, nothing I guess, other than I'm running it on Ubuntu server
[00:37] <JanC> do you use karmic?
[00:37] <Crypia> Yes
[00:38] <JanC> right, already thought so
[00:38] <JanC> read the release notes, have a look inside /etc/init/ and read the 'upstart' documentation  :-)
[00:39] <Crypia> OK, I did glance at that stuff and thought the answer might be there, I'll dig a little further though, thanks
[00:40] <JanC> /etc/rcX.d is only used for applications that haven't been converted to upstart yet
[00:40] <JanC> where the init scripts haven't been converted to upstart yet, to be more precise
[01:26] <hackeron> is there any documentation how to set up kdump or equivalent on ubuntu? - I would like to log kernel panics and oops
[01:34] <JanC> hackeron: kerneloops-daemon ?
[02:59]  * erichammond was just getting used to this new-fangled /etc/rcX.d way of starting a system.
[03:00] <JanC> erichammond: you come from a BSD-init background or something even more exotic?  ;)
[03:02] <erichammond> JanC: I started with Unix 7 on this thing: http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=767&st=1
[03:03] <erichammond> er, Unix version 7
[03:04] <erichammond> I don't even remember what I was familiar with before what we have now; it just feels like I have to keep learning new ones and I never figure out why the old one was bad.
[03:06] <ScottK> Sounds like my and my feelings about Launchpad user interfaces.
[03:07] <JanC> erichammond: nice, my first unix experience was a bit later, as a user on an HP mini around 1991  ツ
[03:09] <JanC> ScottK: well, the "you must use ubuntu-bugs" bug-reporting interface is a bit annoying sometimes  :P
[03:09] <ScottK> JanC: Fortunately there's a "unless you an Ubuntu developer" exception, so that one doesn't bother me.
[03:10] <ScottK> It's more every release they move stuff around and change it almost like they are trying to make it harder to use.
[03:10] <JanC> ScottK: but it's very annoying to beta-testers who get stuck in busybox  ;)
[03:11] <JanC> (not me, but someone else I had to provide the noredirect link)
[03:11] <ScottK> JanC: Right.  I didn't say I thought it was a good idea.
[03:14] <JanC> and, I think there are some improvements on the new LP interface too, as long as you allow JS
[03:14] <JanC> has been some time since I tried without JS
[03:15] <JanC> of course the constant changing can be annoying in itself
[03:15] <AnirbanHazra> I have started my DNS server almost 12 hrs ago. But still its not reflecting the new ip of my domain and showing the old ip. How to check that bind is working properly ?
[03:17] <JanC> AnirbanHazra: does anybody know you have new DNS server?
[03:17] <JanC> *have a new*
[03:18] <AnirbanHazra> JanC: Ya, i have updated them to the domain control panel.
[03:18] <JanC> AnirbanHazra: also, if you give us the domain, we might be able te help debug things
[03:18] <AnirbanHazra> ns1.web2dziner.com
[03:19] <AnirbanHazra> and ns2.web2dziner.com
[03:19] <AnirbanHazra> and the sites web2dziner.com and techdarpan.com
[03:19] <smoser> kirkland, around ?
[03:19] <AnirbanHazra> they should resolve to 216.245.204.244
[03:19] <kirkland> smoser: you know it
[03:19] <smoser> -rw-rw-r-- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 426M 2009-10-08 02:16 ubuntu-uec-hardy-i386.img.gz
[03:19] <smoser> -rw-rw-r-- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 172M 2009-10-08 02:18 ubuntu-uec-hardy-i386-2G.img.gz
[03:20] <smoser> that is 250M of compressed zeros we've been sending around. unless there is other failure in my creation of the 2G image
[03:20] <JanC> AnirbanHazra: and they resolve to 67.215.66.132
[03:20] <kirkland> smoser: \o/
[03:20] <kirkland> smoser: saaaaweeet
[03:21] <kirkland> smoser: well, that and the cached apt-get clean stuff too, right?
[03:21] <kirkland> smoser: that's gonna save a lot more space, than the compressed zeros
[03:21] <smoser> well, but the 426 has the apt-get clean too
[03:21] <kirkland> smoser: .deb's don't compress
[03:21] <AnirbanHazra> JanC: They are OpenDNS pages for site not loading
[03:21] <kirkland> smoser: cool
[03:22] <JanC> AnirbanHazra: ns1 resolves to 74.63.221.173 and ns2 resolves to 69.162.81.94, is that your new DNS ?
[03:22] <smoser> yeah. its enough at the moment for me to think we should just be putting the 2G image out for download with instructions on how to expand it
[03:22] <kirkland> smoser: how long until you get a 2G image up at http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/beta/ ?
[03:22] <smoser> rather than the other way around.
[03:22] <kirkland> smoser: absolutely
[03:22] <kirkland> smoser: that's my suggestion
[03:22] <kirkland> smoser: save the internets!
[03:22] <smoser> i dont plan on putting them in beta, but i can make them manually and put them elsewhere if you'd like
[03:22] <smoser> transferred zeros make al gore cry
[03:22] <AnirbanHazra> JanC: They are the old DNS. NOw they are 216.245.204.244 and 69.162.114.78 respectively
[03:23] <kirkland> smoser: is there a daily karmic dir?
[03:23] <smoser> yeah.
[03:23] <kirkland> smoser: where?
[03:23] <smoser> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/karmic
[03:23] <smoser> and i'll have a build with these changes in it inside the hour
[03:24] <smoser> and will send a mail suggesting making 2G available for download with instructions on how to resize up.
[03:24] <smoser> theonly issue with the smaller initiial filesize that i can think of is that it will include less inodes
[03:24] <kirkland> smoser: cool
[03:24] <smoser> which could possibly be short for 10G of acutal user data
[03:24] <kirkland> smoser: thanks
[03:25] <kirkland> smoser: drop a note here when that daily 2G image is available
[03:25] <kirkland> smoser: we're breaking for dinner now-ish
[03:25] <smoser> but in all likelyhood, you're not doing much on '/', when you've got a terrabyte in /mnt
[03:25] <smoser> alright. will do.
[03:25] <kirkland> smoser: thanks so much, dude
[03:27] <JanC> AnirbanHazra: I'm not a DNS guru, but I suspect the new DNS servers aren't known to the .com DNS servers yet, so you'll have to wait for that  ;)
[03:28] <AnirbanHazra> hmmm
[03:28] <JanC> AnirbanHazra: never a good idea to change hosting & DNS at the same time IMO
[03:30] <erichammond> smoser: Something you said reminded me of something in I was wondering about based on a ##aws user's response to this article: http://alestic.com/2009/09/ec2-public-ebs-danger
[03:31] <erichammond> Let's see if I can express it clearly.
[03:31] <erichammond> When you build an EC2/UEC image with vmbuilder it is done on a loopback file system, right?
[03:31] <smoser> i'd read your article, but missed my chance at $100
[03:31] <JanC> oh, and make sure your registrar knows about the new DNS servers too!
[03:32] <smoser> vmbuilder builds into a direcory, and then copies the data from the directory into a loopback image (at least for ec2)
[03:32] <erichammond> This means that any files you create and then delete on that file system are still going to exist in the blocks on the image.
[03:32] <smoser> or, for xen, in general
[03:32] <smoser> actually, no.
[03:32] <erichammond> ok.  That's the preferred method I was going to recommend.
[03:32] <smoser> in other cases (non-xen) yes.
[03:33] <erichammond> Not only would it be a potential security risk to have deleted files in the image, but it might also affect the compressed size.
[03:33] <smoser> i'm not sure if soren did it this way to avoid data leakage, or if only for space
[03:33] <smoser> because all those temporary files aren't zeros
[03:33] <smoser> they take up un-needed space
[03:33] <erichammond> anyway, it sounds like it's done the good way.
[03:33] <smoser> right. as you said.
[03:34] <erichammond> computers are haard.
[03:34] <erichammond> :)
[03:35] <erichammond> I'm constantly having to make tweaks to my mental model of what is going on.
[03:41] <AnirbanHazra> JanC: But when I am pinging them from my server , they are giving correct address !
[03:45] <JanC> AnirbanHazra: your server probably knows the correct address, but everybody else doesn't (yet)
[03:45] <JanC> AnirbanHazra: I expect it will be resolved within 2 days probably
[03:46] <AnirbanHazra> JanC : Hmm..
[03:47]  * JanC goes to sleep now
[04:00] <aubre_> in cc.log I get in MANAGED-NOVLAN mode, priv interface 'eth0' must be a bridge, tunneling disabled
[04:02] <aubre_> I'm using the default setup from boot cd for cluster and node
[04:02] <aubre_> I tried to change as little as possible
[04:03] <ruben23> hi
[04:03] <ruben23> how do i set
[04:03] <ruben23> my time zpne in ubuntu server
[04:03] <ruben23> time zone
[04:03] <ruben23> and adjust time
[04:04] <aubre_> I thought only the nc had to be bridged
[04:08] <syncrondi> Does anyone know which file displays after ssh authentication?
[04:14] <syncrondi> or rather, what generates the stats on /etc/motd ?
[04:21] <osmosis> syncrondi: probably a boot script triggers something
[04:25] <syncrondi> osmosis: I want to display something to all users on the server after login but don't know if it's a good idea to mess around with /etc/motd
[04:26] <syncrondi> I'd like to keep the stats going
[04:26] <osmosis> syncrondi: dont edit motd...it gets overwritten.  use motd.tail
[04:27] <syncrondi> osmosis: Do I need to restart a service? I edited tail with no effect.
[04:28] <osmosis> syncrondi: it will update on next reboot
[04:28] <syncrondi> osmosis: yeah I figured, but I can't really bring the server down
[04:29] <osmosis> syncrondi: not sure what script.  you could  cat motd.tail >> motd though
[04:30] <syncrondi> Good idea. Thanks, osmosis
[04:30] <osmosis> syncrondi:   init.d/bootlogs.sh:	[ -f /etc/motd.tail ] && cat /etc/motd.tail >> /var/run/motd
[04:33] <syncrondi> osmosis: thanks for showing me. :)
[04:35] <ilowe> syncrondi: you may also be looking for "update-motd"
[04:37] <syncrondi> ilowe: in /etc/cron.d ?
[04:37] <ilowe> syncrondi: running the command will "compile" /etc/motd; if you check the manpage, you can see where to drop files with additional stuff to add to the motd
[04:38] <syncrondi> ah, gotcha. Thanks
[04:38] <ilowe> np :)
[05:18] <kirkland> smoser: are those karmic 2G images ready yet?
[05:19] <smoser> you want me to hand churn some into the daily dir ?
[05:19] <smoser> is there any reason that that is better than you doing it?
[05:20] <smoser> i was pretty much just going to push out both the normal and -2G, but now i'm set on that there is no point in the existance of 10G
[05:20] <smoser> i haven't got the code to only make the 2G yet
[05:22] <smoser> kirkland,
[05:23] <smoser> resize with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/288295/
[05:25] <smoser> or
[05:26] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/288297/
[05:29] <smoser> kirkland, well, i'm spinning 2G images for you.
[05:30] <smoser> they'll pop up at http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/karmic/20091008.1 if it works.
[05:54] <smoser> kirkland, those should show up there in a half hour or so
[05:54] <smoser> they were almost done and i realized i hadn't pulled the vmbuilder code for apt-get clean
[06:00] <kirkland> smoser: cool
[06:00] <PhotoJim> anybody decent with IPv6?  I deployed radvd on my router today and my Debian boxes happily obtain IPv6 IPs and a default route.  but my Ubuntu server (which has its own public IP but is connected to said router via a different NIC) doesn't seem to hear the broadcasts so doesn't get an IPv6 IP.
[06:02] <StrangeCharm> how can i echo the time at the terminal
[06:02] <smoser> date
[06:02] <smoser> ?
[06:02] <smoser> or, with screen, 'ctrl-a t'
[06:05] <smoser> download is now 217M for i386 UEC image compared to yesterdays 591M.
[06:05] <smoser> wow. thanks kirkland.
[06:05] <kirkland> smoser: ;-)
[06:05] <kirkland> smoser: thank *you*
[06:05] <kirkland> smoser: you should announce *that* on the list
[06:06] <smoser> i sent a list to ubuntu-devel
[06:06] <smoser> err a mail to that list
[06:06] <kirkland> smoser: well announce the 591->217 size diff
[06:06] <kirkland> smoser: not necessarily the "wow. thanks kirkland." :-)
[06:06] <smoser> but its in limbo , because i'm not cool enough to be a developer, so a moderator has to let it through
[06:06] <smoser> it has the differences.
[06:07] <smoser> i'm going to bed.
[06:07] <smoser> that stuff will be there in probably 20 minutes
[06:07] <kirkland> smoser: what address are you posting from?
[06:08] <smoser> smoser@ubuntu.com
[06:08] <smoser> i think you must have to be MOTU
[06:08] <kirkland> smoser: the powers that be should whitelist your address
[06:08] <kirkland> smoser: no, it's totally separate, i think
[06:12] <chris2kn5> Anybody here know what's the best way for local repo + localnet installation?
[06:16] <smoser> compare http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/karmic/20091008/ and http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/karmic/20091008.1
[06:16] <smoser> 602M -> 222M
[06:16] <smoser> 591M -> 216M
[06:17] <smoser> now i *am* going to bed.
[06:22] <StrangeCharm> does the system log automatically delete old entries?
[06:59] <artillerytx> Hey guys my computer is in a read only file system
[06:59] <artillerytx> how can i back up the drive to another drive?
[07:04] <twb> artillerytx: dd?
[07:04] <artillerytx> dd?
[07:04] <PhotoJim> dd if=/dev/olddrive of=/dev/newdrive
[07:05] <artillerytx> serisouly
[07:05] <PhotoJim> if the new drive is the same size or larger... yes
[07:05] <artillerytx> would i have to moun the other drive?
[07:05] <PhotoJim> not until you've copied the data over
[07:05] <artillerytx> its not the same size
[07:05] <PhotoJim> not ever, technically
[07:05] <PhotoJim> the new drive needs to be the same or larger for that to work properly... (slightly oversimple)
[07:05] <artillerytx> well crap
[07:06] <artillerytx> could i use a usb external ?
[07:06] <PhotoJim> sure
[07:06] <artillerytx> damn i wish i would of known that before i just restarted the machine
[07:06] <artillerytx> i hope it shows up again
[07:06] <PhotoJim> the other option is to boot off a live CD and do an fsck on your drive to fix it... that has risk of course.
[07:06] <artillerytx> yeah
[07:06] <artillerytx> i don't want to fix the drive i just want the files
[07:07] <PhotoJim> well, chances are if the files are corrupted, fsck won't work on them, and copying the drive won't help either.
[07:07] <PhotoJim> but you might as well try
[07:07] <PhotoJim> if you want to copy at a filesystem level, you would have to mount your external drive
[07:07] <PhotoJim> and then just copy files to it
[07:08] <artillerytx> yeah well im pretty sure the drive is bad
[07:08] <artillerytx> cause its only randomly showing up in the BIOS
[07:09] <artillerytx> great didn't show up
[07:09] <PhotoJim> another option, replace the drive, reinstall... and put the old drive in an external case for rescue
[07:09] <artillerytx> yeah but im having a hard time finding SCSI enclosures
[07:09] <PhotoJim> ahh, SCSI
[07:10] <artillerytx> god i can't believe i had the files right there and couldn't get them off
[07:10] <artillerytx> that blows
[07:10] <PhotoJim> check the cabling... cables can go bad or get loose
[07:10] <artillerytx> yeah i've done that and tried different slots
[07:10] <artillerytx> got nothin
[07:11] <PhotoJim> you might just be SOL
[07:11] <artillerytx> yeah
[07:11] <PhotoJim> replace your drive with two identical drives, and do RAID1... at a minimum
[07:11] <artillerytx> im starting to feel that way
[07:11] <PhotoJim> then if one dies you're still good
[07:11] <artillerytx> yeah thats what i've learned
[07:11] <PhotoJim> and back up to a USB external
[07:11] <PhotoJim> yup
[07:11] <PhotoJim> we all have
[07:11] <PhotoJim> we pick on you but we have all had it happen to us :)
[07:11] <artillerytx> yeah its no fun man not at all
[07:12] <PhotoJim> nope
[07:12] <PhotoJim> all my important data is on three drives... two on RAID1 and one on Firewire in an external enclosure
[07:12] <PhotoJim> but I've only had it configured thus for about half a year
[07:12] <artillerytx> yeah i bought this server for fun and ended up using it for some serious work
[07:13] <artillerytx> and now im SOL on 2 months of work and out $300
[07:13] <PhotoJim> my server is SCSI too, 4 drives, so I did RAID1 / and RAID1 /usr.  then added SATA and two 1 TB SATA drives (plus said firewire drive) for /home and a /public share.
[07:13] <PhotoJim> oh, that sucks.  backups, backups, backups.
[07:14] <artillerytx> haha i feel so stupid for not doing it ... and i was hoping i could grab the files off and still have a lesson learned
[07:14] <PhotoJim> you might still
[07:14] <PhotoJim> let it cool off... and try it again tomorrow
[07:14] <PhotoJim> I had a SCSI drive on an ancient computer that seized up
[07:14] <artillerytx> yeah i let the drive sit all day pretty much and it showed up for about 15 mins
[07:14] <PhotoJim> after 3 days of being on it fired up
[07:15] <artillerytx> i only need to get 3 GB off
[07:15] <artillerytx> it should take 5 MIns top
[07:15] <PhotoJim> cool it off.  fire it up.  copy fast.
[07:15] <artillerytx> haha tahts why i wish i had an enclosure
[07:15] <PhotoJim> bedtime for me.  good luck :)
[07:16] <artillerytx> thanks
[07:16] <artillerytx> night
[07:16] <PhotoJim> night.
[07:25] <artillerytx> twb if i use the ubuntu server rescue mode can i use that dd option ?
[08:24] <StrangeCharm> what cli program should i look at for making incremental backups?
[08:27] <_ruben> rsync :)
[08:36] <artillerytx> if my sever is hot-swap that means i can remove and add hard drives while the computer is on ?
[08:37] <ewook> yes, but not while filesystems on the disks are active.
[08:38] <ewook> note that hot-swap bays does not equals to hot-swap enabled system.
[08:38] <ewook> StrangeCharm: rsync / bacula / etc
[08:39] <_ruben> dependong on the raid config, the os might not even notice the swap
[08:43] <artillerytx> ahh
[08:43] <artillerytx> if i do fdisk -l and it tells me like sda is the drive its using then every drive listed is associated with that drive correct
[08:45] <artillerytx> like it lists sda1, sda2, sda5
[08:53] <soren> smoser: I did it for space, not privacy. I didn't (and still don't) see a situation where you would temporarily have sensitive data in your image. You can optionally tell vmbuilder to not take these extra steps by passing the --in-place option. The help text also mentions that the images will be larger.
[09:01] <_ruben> artillerytx: sdaX arent drives, sda is a drive, sdaX are partitions
[09:05] <artillerytx> _ruben: right thats what i meant
[09:15] <gamla_kossan> morning people
[09:16] <gamla_kossan> isn't /var/log/auth.log supposed to be the log where you can check, among other things, for login attempts?
[09:17] <gamla_kossan> it looks like it is, but the latest timestamps are from september 28.
[09:17] <ewook> yes.
[09:17] <gamla_kossan> (surely it logs logons with ssh keys as well?)
[09:19] <gamla_kossan> how odd. just tried logging on, but it doesn't get logged.
[09:20] <ewook> check your /etc/rsyslog.conf / ksyslog / syslog
[09:20] <gamla_kossan> auth,authpriv.*                 /var/log/auth.log
[09:21] <gamla_kossan> oh wait.. I _might_ have been experimenting a week or two ago with syslog and syslog-ng. =)
[10:41] <hackeron> is there any documentation how to set up kdump or equivalent on ubuntu? - I would like to log kernel panics and oops
[10:43] <macrocosm> is it normal to have a bunch of [/usr/sbin/apache2 -k start] Running Processes?  On my virtual ubuntuServer8.10 after a bit of time it usually runs up to using like 650 megs of RAM and thats with no one but me on it.  Is this somethign I need to debug in apache?
[10:44] <alvin> Bug 357060 says I should put '/etc/kolab' in the AppArmor allowed directories list. Where can I find that file?
[10:50] <macrocosm> from what I understand these  processes are setup for client connections.  But there should be none other than myself, this is (I thought) a closed virtual server in vmware on my desktop with no outside LAN or any real domain access.  Do you think this means there are a bunch of connections I dont know about?  I noticed all the Owners are mostly www-data
[10:54] <_ruben> macrocosm: look in /var/log/apache2/ for hints
[11:00] <macrocosm> _ruben ... hmm .. well I dont see any out of the ordinary accesses so thats good .. looking through the error log now .. thanks for the tip, I guess I was dumb not to look there! Dohh!
[11:02] <macrocosm> hmm .. I have a shit ton of these [[warn] child process 29413 still did not exit, sending a SIGTERM]  ... off to google .. somethings obviously wrong
[11:03] <drurew_> im haveing a major issue not being able to login as a user from root
[11:03] <drurew_> I know the user exsists and there are aps running from it...su nagios just wont work...neither does loging nagios
[11:04] <_ruben> drurew_: most likely that use doesnt have a real shell .. which is rather common for users like nagios
[11:04] <_ruben> s/use/uers/
[11:04] <_ruben> s/uers/user/
[11:04] <drurew_> something like /etc/sh ?
[11:05] <drurew_> .conf / cfg
[11:06] <_ruben> /etc/passwd is where users are "assigned" a shell
[11:06] <drurew_> ahh thanks
[11:08]  * drurew_ <3`s _ruben
[11:08] <macrocosm> hmm .. maybe thats just cause im not using graceful apache restarts .. so im not sure those are related.  Must have some buggy code on my dev server somewhere .. time to dig
[11:09] <azlon_> hello, i was referred here from #ubuntu
[11:09] <azlon_> i am trying to get my raid running again after reinstalling 9.04 today. it is using mdadm
[11:10] <azlon_> when i do sudo mdadm --assemble --scan it says: mdadm: /dev/md0 assembled from 2 drives - not enough to start the array.
[11:10] <azlon_> i see all of the drives when i do fdisk -l though
[11:24] <_ruben> azlon_: what do the logs say?
[11:24] <azlon_> _ruben, what logs should i post?
[11:25] <_ruben> azlon_: i know atleast the output of `dmesg` shows mdadm related, probably ends up in /var/log/syslog as well
[11:26] <azlon_> http://pastebin.com/d2876a76a
[11:26] <azlon_> that is the var/log/syslog
[11:27] <azlon_> not sure how i can post all of dmesg to pastebin
[11:29] <azlon_> i just replaced my primary drive and reinstalled ubuntu... i thought it would be easy to get my raid working on a new system
[11:29] <azlon_> should i boot from my old drive just to verify that the raid is still good?
[11:30] <_ruben> the drive you replaced was part of the raid (which raid level over how many disks?)
[11:30] <azlon_> no, it was seperate
[11:30] <azlon_> i have a RAID-5 with 4x1TB HDDs
[11:31] <_ruben> ok
[11:31] <azlon_> this is my fdisk if it helps: http://pastebin.com/d41e817d1
[11:31] <azlon_> i was running an old crappy 40GB IDE that started making noises so i upgraded to a 500GB SATA
[11:32] <azlon_> i guess i could go back to the 40GB but i think its just a matter of time until the drive fails
[11:33] <_ruben> what does cat /proc/mdstat show?
[11:34] <azlon_> hrmm... wtf... http://pastebin.com/d6e497c01
[11:34] <azlon_> looks like 2 drives are on md0 and 2 drives are on md_d1
[11:34] <azlon_> i dont know what md_d1 is...
[11:34] <azlon_> the guys in #ubuntu had me do: mdadm --assemble --scan --auto-update-homehost
[11:35] <_ruben> some superblocks got messed up it seems
[11:35] <azlon_> ugh, that sounds bad
[11:35] <_ruben> can be, doesnt have to be
[11:35] <_ruben> there've been numerous times where i was afraid to have lost terabytes of data, but managed to get them back eventually :)
[11:36] <azlon_> is there a simple command to repair it or should i start putting things back the way they were and hope it works
[11:36] <_ruben> first thing you should do is stop that md_d1 raid .. mdadm --manage --stop /dev/md_d1 i think
[11:36] <azlon_> mdadm: stopped /dev/md_d1
[11:36] <_ruben> doesnt hurt to try with the old disk, but i dont expect it to be any different
[11:37] <_ruben> i've been wrong before though :)
[11:37] <azlon_> should i do mdadm -a /dev/sda1 and same for sdb1?
[11:38] <azlon_> er... mdadm -a /dev/md0 /dev/sda1
[11:38] <azlon_> something like that
[11:38] <_ruben> mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/sda1 ... might need a --force .. and that's where it gets tricky :)
[11:38] <azlon_> ugh
[11:38] <azlon_> let me try the old drive first...
[11:38] <azlon_> brb
[11:46] <azlon> _ruben, ok, it works!
[11:46] <azlon> woohoo!
[11:48] <azlon> no now i should restart with the new HDD again since we know the raid is good right? mdadm shows UUUU
[11:50] <azlon> ok, well im going to restart with the new HDD
[11:50] <azlon> brb
[11:54] <azlon> _ruben, ok, back on the new hdd
[11:54] <azlon> going to try sudo mdadm --assemble --scan again
[11:57] <azlon> _ruben, working now... thanks for the help... i have no idea what i did to get it working
[12:31]  * soren runs to lunch
[12:40] <twb> So I have an md RAID1 array for /boot, and root on another RAID5/LVM LV.
[12:41] <twb> I have deliberately degraded the arrays by removing one disk, and now the kernel hangs at around 80s trying to add and remove(?) nodes from the arrays.
[12:41] <twb> I vaguely recall I need to add a boot: parameter to say "allow degraded arrays during boot", but my google-fu is weak.
[12:41] <twb> Never mind!  It timed out and busybox told me exactly what to type!
[12:44] <twb> (We're talking about bootdegraded=true.)
[12:56] <pmatulis> twb: you need to add 'bootdegraded=true' as a permanent kernel boot option?
[12:57] <twb> No, only during recovery
[12:57] <twb> IIRC, anyway
[12:57] <pmatulis> why not have it permanent?
[12:57] <twb> I suppose because you don't want to accidentally boot (i.e. mount -o remount,rw) a system without any parity disk.
[12:58] <twb> Especially if your idiot customers don't read their logfiles, and you "aren't allowed" to... but that's another story. >rant<
[13:00] <pmatulis> twb: what if the server is remote?
[13:01] <twb> Well, what happens currently in this case is I have to talk them (over the phone!) through downloading a rescue CD and reinstalling grub, because grub doesn't cope with the BIOS renumbering the SATA drives
[13:02] <twb> So I'm comparatively happy to talk them through adding "bootdegraded=true" to the extlinux boot prompt
[13:02] <twb> I guess I'm assuming that if it was safe to turn it on all the time, the Debian/Ubuntu maintainers would have made it the default.
[13:04] <twb> In this case, it has failed badly because as well as removing a disk, this is a scratch install so it hadn't finished syncing the 750GiB array before I deliberately degraded it :-)
[13:05] <myeggo> hello
[13:06] <myeggo> i am configuring logrotate, i want to save for a year the log of dhcp
[13:06] <myeggo> i have created the syslog in logrotate.d, and i think it is ok, but the logs are still purged every week
[13:35] <jdstrand> alvin: you need to put it in the /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.slapd file. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingApparmor for details
[13:36] <alvin> jdstrand: Oh, I did (thank you). I also added a comment to bug 357060
[13:37] <alvin> jdstrand: But I've given up. After that, the bootstrap script can finish, but kolab can not connect to ldap (kolabd: C Error: Unable to bind to DN `cn=manager,cn=internal,dc=alvin,dc=be')
[13:38] <alvin> Now trying OpenPKG. Ubuntu packages are a great idea, but they are broken and untested. I tried Jaunty and Karmic beta.
[13:38] <jdstrand> alvin: I've not used kolab. are you still getting apparmor denied messages in syslog?
[13:39] <alvin> jdstrand: Not after adding those comments, no. But there are other errors.
[13:40] <alvin> jdstrand: I'm now trying to install with OpenPKG. I still have to see if there will be AppArmor problems there.
[13:40] <jdstrand> alvin: I would recommend purge the kolab package and starting over. the initial apparmor denials may have created a partial installation
[13:40] <jdstrand> s/installation/configuration/
[13:41] <jdstrand> (for the kolab package)
[13:42] <alvin> jdstand: I did that too. It did get me through the boostrap script, but then I'm stuck with the 'unable to bind DN' error in /var/log/messages.
[13:42]  * jdstrand nods
[13:42] <jdstrand> if you find out the issue, please file a bug so someone can get the packages fixed up
[13:43] <alvin> jdstrand: I will surely do that. Of course, if the OpenPKG way works, I will not immediately reinstall using apt-get. But if I found out something, I'll report it.
[14:21] <aubre> has anyone tried the latest uec images that we posted earlier today?
[14:21] <aubre> I mean that was posted
[14:21] <aubre> keyboard fail
[14:42] <alkisg> I'm looking for a utility to bypass NAT connections, like ssh -R, but one that doesn't involve user accounts. E.g. I may be able to do this with netcat.
[14:42] <alkisg> Clients A and B are behind NATs. Server S has a public IP. I got root access on all of them. I want to be able to map e.g. the vnc port 5900 of client A to port 12345 of the server, so that B can connect to it. Any utilities for that? (I guess I need two utilities, one for the server and one for client A).
[15:07] <dmacnutt> can you have more than 1 failover peer with dhcpd?
[15:36] <brandonc503> hey all so i am installing postfix and dovecot for email and was trying to test first part with thunderbirds but not sure whats not working
[15:36] <brandonc503> i am using my ip address cause i have no domain name yet
[15:36] <brandonc503> i have 2 routers
[15:37] <brandonc503> tried using 25 587  but not sure where to make all changes for different ports
[15:37] <brandonc503> and i changed the master.cf file and found this which i figure what i need to find out
[15:37] <brandonc503> what channel would i ask questions about my email server troublesooting
[15:37] <brandonc503> err
[15:37] <brandonc503> An error occurred with the POP3 mail server. Mail server server name responded: message
[15:37] <brandonc503> (Where message might be blank.)
[15:37] <brandonc503>     * You specified the wrong server. The server you specified exists, but it is not a POP3 server.
[15:37] <brandonc503>     * You specified the wrong port number. Ask whoever runs the POP3 server what the correct port number is.
[15:38] <brandonc503>     * The server is down. This is usually temporary. If it persists, contact whoever administers the server
[15:39] <brandonc503> used http://mysql-apache-php.com
[15:40] <PhotoJim> anybody decent with IPv6?  I deployed radvd on my router yesterday and my Debian boxes happily obtain IPv6 IPs and a default route.  but my Ubuntu server (which has its own public IP but is connected to said router via a different NIC) doesn't seem to hear the broadcasts so doesn't get an IPv6 IP.
[15:40] <brandonc503> i was at the part ...Now, you can use your outlook express to test ....
[15:44] <ball> Does Ubuntu Server run adequately on an Intel D945GCLF (Atom 230, 2G RAM)
[15:44] <ball> ?
[15:45] <Jagged> ball: I'm running it on a P3 750 MHz with 512 MB of DDR ram
[15:45] <Jagged> ball: It largely depends on which services you use and what you load will be.
[15:45] <ball> Jagged: I was thinking more in terms of hardware compatability
[15:46] <brandonc503> i got 800mhz 256 sk ram
[15:46] <ball> It'll be a lightly loaded file server, primarily
[15:46] <ball> (almost a NAS)
[15:46] <Jagged> ball: I don't see why linux wouldn't support the 945 chipset
[15:49] <ball> Jagged: I just wondered.
[15:51] <Jagged> ball: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d945gclf/sb/CS-029475.htm
[15:51] <Jagged> ball: It appears that so long as you use at least 8.04 with a newer kernel, it will work.
[15:52] <ball> Does "native" there indicate a driver that ships in the Linux kernel?
[15:52] <Jagged> Generally speaking, yes.
[15:52] <ball> Well that looks positive.  Thanks!
[15:52] <Jagged> That board uses a realtex chip for the lan
[15:52] <Jagged> *realtek
[15:53] <ball> Hmm... I wonder which one.
[15:53] <Jagged> which is why some distributions may require compiling the kernel module for it
[15:53] <Jagged> rtl8169 I think
[15:53] <Jagged> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=812817
[15:55] <PhotoJim> ball: Ubuntu Server runs fine on my 1 GB, 2 x 1 GHz Pentium III server for home use, and could handle small enterprise use.
[15:55] <Jagged> PhotoJim: I think he was more concerned with chipset support than processing capability.
[15:55] <ball> PhotoJim: Are those Coppermine chips?
[15:56] <PhotoJim> oh, ok.  shouldn't be a problem though.  I run standard Ubuntu desktop on my AA1 (Atom N270).  not aware that that server has any weird hardware.
[15:56] <PhotoJim> ball: I think so.  I can look easily enough if you want to know.
[15:56] <PhotoJim> ball: Yup, Coppermine, so saith /etc/cpuinfo.
[15:56] <ball> PhotoJim: thanks
[16:03] <aubre> when I try to start an instance, I get this message in cc.log on my front-end :in MANAGED-NOVLAN mode, priv interface 'eth1' must be a bridge, tunneling disabled - should I take that to mean that I should set up the private interface on my front-end to be a bridge as well as the one on the node controllers?
[16:06] <ball> I'm looking forward to getting this machine up and running.
[16:07] <aubre> I'm going to try it.
[16:08] <PhotoJim> ball: np
[16:10] <brandonc503> to make a local user and group it syasys: # CD to /home/<user> and create a symbolic link to /var/www as this is the public html folder.
[16:10] <brandonc503> ln -s /var/www www
[16:10] <brandonc503> what does it mean?
[16:10] <brandonc503> make a file in /home/brandon?
[16:10] <brandonc503> or for the user i wana make login for?
[16:10] <brandonc503> for fvsftpd btw
[16:10] <ball> brandonc503: it creates a symbolic link
[16:11] <ball> ...if you do it in /, it creates www, which /really/ points to /var/www
[16:11] <brandonc503> what part do i type in the terminal just the ln-s /var/www/ www
[16:11] <ball> oh hang on
[16:11] <ball> They want you do to it in /home
[16:11] <ball> you could just as easily type "ln -s /var/www /home/www"
[16:12] <ball> (without the quotes)
[16:12] <brandonc503> right, cool thanks
[16:12] <ball> umm... might want to sudo that, depending on your rights
[16:13] <brandonc503> i did, thanks
[16:13] <brandonc503> so that folder is for one user? or i cna put other folders in there for users cause now its saying chown -R <user> /var/www
[16:14] <ball> brandonc503: you want users to have their own directories on the Web server?
[16:14] <brandonc503> na
[16:14] <brandonc503> just wana be able to have many users access whole thing
[16:15] <ball> See if your Web server software created a "web" or "www" group
[16:15] <ball> ...grant write permission to that group and add only the users you want to have access to it.
[16:15] <brandonc503> how
[16:15]  * ball shrugs
[16:15] <ball> I'm new to Linux
[16:15] <brandonc503> ill look
[16:20] <brandonc503> ball: no it didnt make that name
[16:21] <ball> brandonc503: You could probably do that yourself then.
[16:21] <ball> ...just don't make the directory world-writable
[16:23] <brandonc503> so by puting ln -s /var/www /home/www i am making symbolic folder in /var/www to /home/www which makes the user www since its in the home folder?
[16:25] <AnirbanHazra>  I have started my Bind service more than 24 hrs ago. Still my website is not resolving to the new ip !
[16:26] <ball> brandonc503: you manually specify the group to which the directory belongs
[16:36] <brandonc503> ball: so when it says # CD to /home/<user> i need to have that file first right, and i need to make user www, or i can make user name?
[16:41] <brandonc503> k now that i think i have it. how do i login to ftp?
[16:41] <brandonc503> can i do ftp://ip or download like ws ftp?
[16:48] <brandonc503> is there a ftp port i need to forward like 80 for my web, thur my 2 routres?
[16:50] <brandonc503> ah 21? ya
[16:54] <brandonc503> okay what are some of the ways to test if my ftp is working right?
[16:54] <brandonc503> im trying to connect with places>connect and not working
[16:59] <brandonc503> k so if i use 192.168.1.102 and 127.0.0.1 ftp works but not my ip
[16:59] <brandonc503> would that be the portfowarding?
[17:01] <brandonc503>  and my www link to /var/ww seems to be broken
[17:01] <pmatulis> how do i add a mdadm/raid device that shows up as 'removed'? i made a mistake in mdadm.conf and upon reboot a block device is now "removed"
[17:02] <Pici> brandonc503: You don't seem to be getting much response here.  ubuntu-server doesnt have a grapical environment, perhaps the folks in #ubuntu could be of more help for those questions.
[17:02] <brandonc503> yea they sent me here
[17:02] <brandonc503> ill go back
[17:02] <Pici> brandonc503: They sent you here because you said you had email server questions.
[17:08] <brandonc503> ah thats right
[17:08] <brandonc503> new problem sorry
[17:11] <ichat> what aternatives are there to ebox on ubuntu
[17:14] <ilowe> ichat: um, isn't ebox designed to run on Ubuntu?
[17:16] <ilowe> ichat: according to their webpage, ebox is similar to webmin
[17:18] <ichat> true, but ebox both and webmin - are of litle use  to a soho  server
[17:20] <ichat> i mean,  im lookin for a win home server alternative,  thats actually manageble  though the web,    ( i wanted to try that stuf amahi is doing - but thats - fedora based,  hell - i tried but its even crappie'r than ms windows :$
[17:20] <ichat> fedora i mean
[17:20] <genii> ichat: ISPConfig is fairly good but I do not think it is yet packaged for Ubuntu
[17:24] <ari-tczew> hello
[17:24] <Spartan7> I had a quick question with a server install. Im trying to install ubuntu server lts and it is bringing up network connection not found.
[17:33] <genii> Spartan7: If you have multiple ethernet adapters, make sure whichever corresponds to eth0 is the one connected, it always tries that one first, even if another one is working/connected.
[17:34] <Spartan7> nope only 1
[17:34] <genii> Spartan7: Is it some Gigabit type?
[17:35] <Spartan7> evga nforce 750i sli mobo
[17:35] <Spartan7> lspci:  http://pastebin.com/m22c00e6e
[17:35]  * genii reads
[17:36] <scrash09> i'm switching server distros.  have considered debian primarily, but am curious what the advantages  are of the ubuntu-server distro are.  i realize there's probably a bias in _here_ == but would appreciate objective comments :-)
[17:37] <genii> Spartan7: It's not even showing any network controllers there. I do know the NForce/NVidia MCP chipset has been problemmatic. Does:  lsusb         show an adapter?
[17:38] <Spartan7> checking
[17:39] <genii> scrash09: Support community is very helpful with Ubuntu, also there are definite release and support cycles, unlike Debian
[17:40] <genii> ( Debian is a "rolling release" )
[17:42] <scrash09> genii: hi. re: community.  i just noticed that there IS a ubuntu-server ch, but no debian-server channel.  tough to get server questions answered in debian ...
[17:42] <scrash09> re: rolling release.  not sure --yet -- if it matters to me.  coming from opensuse where i need 25+ non-standard repos on top of a "release" just to not be horribly disfunctional and out of date -- it was, as well, effectively a rolling-release
[17:45] <scrash09> hm.  docs online look very polished ...  at least, prolific
[17:46] <Spartan7> lsusb > http://pastebin.com/m2737a820
[17:46] <Spartan7> is there a on off switch on the mobo for the nic?
[17:57] <scrash09> ok, ubuntu-server's installing ... in the meantime, let's try this here.
[17:57] <scrash09> I've config'd exim server to exec the service as "exim -C /non/standard/path/exim.conf".  Runs fine (on debain; soon on ubuntu, i presume). Cron jobs that mail, however, still invoke "just exim (or, sendmail)" which tries to use the compiled-in default config @ /etc/exim/exim.conf.
[17:57] <scrash09> What's the right way to make cron, and any/all invocations of exim by server daemons etc, use the '/non/standard/path/exim.conf'?
[17:58] <genii> Spartan7: The A-Data device looks to be some external drive. My hunch is your ethernet adapter is on the PCI, just the MCP chipset needs a driver to see it
[17:59] <genii> Ah... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/371276
[18:00] <Spartan7> I see
[18:00] <genii> (there is a similar report for 8.04)
[18:01] <Spartan7> that suckas
[18:02] <Spartan7> I wonder if the pacthj mentioned would work on 8.04
[18:03] <genii> Spartan7: I personally would try it, since otherwise it means a standalone adapter which DOES work needs to be put in and take up a slot, etc
[18:03] <genii> (and it's a fresh install anyways)
[18:04] <Spartan7> yea
[18:08] <Spartan7> thanks genii. I'll see if this works.
[18:08] <genii> Spartan7: Best of luck, perhaps keep us posted as for results
[18:23] <Spartan7> genii, do you think that inastalling 9.04 server might fix the issue?
[18:24] <StrangeCharm> i have a process that keeps getting oom-killed. how can i fix this?
[18:29] <genii> Spartan7: No, since there are bug reports of same issue on both versions (8.04 AND 9.04)
[18:30] <genii> StrangeCharm: Sorry, not an area I'm familiar with
[18:58] <AnirbanHazra> How to flush DNS cache in Ubuntu from shell ?
[19:04] <bventura> i have a dns problem if anyone can help see here:
[19:04] <bventura> http://snippets.dzone.com/user/bventura
[19:05] <bventura> i can't reach my CNAME'd host, i think that double name thing must be related, the dig line where it says mail.mydomain.com.	529373	IN	CNAME	ubuntusvr2.mydomain.com.mydomain.com.
[19:05] <bventura> what did i do wrong?
[19:06] <smoser> AnirbanHazra, it depends what is doing the caching
[19:07] <smoser> if you're using dnsmasq easiest way is to restart it.
[19:07] <smoser> if its somewhere upstream from you, you can't do anything afaik
[19:10] <AnirbanHazra> smoser: reflecting the old ip aadess instead of new one of my doaminn
[19:10] <smoser> it depends on what is doing the caching. you have no control over any dns server other than your own.
[19:10] <smoser> if you just want to "fix" it temporarily on your system, i suggest putting the updated value in /etc/hosts
[19:12] <ari-tczew> work-around, not fix :>
[19:18] <bventura> .
[19:28] <aubre> with Eucalyptus it shows all my nodes' cores when I do a euca-describe-availability-zones verbose, but when I tru to start an instance it shuts down rapidly, I look at cc.log and don't really see anything, where else should I look?
[19:33] <aubre> in nc.log I seelibvirt: Domain not found: no domain with matching name
[19:33] <aubre> in nc.log I see libvirt: Domain not found: no domain with matching name
[19:36] <tmeVinny> would anyone know how to install joomla on ubuntu-server
[19:47] <_ruben> google shows tons of howtos on ubuntu+joomla
[19:51] <_ruben> bventura: what's the result of dig mail.mydomain.com. (note the trailing dot) .. or did you fix it already?
[19:51] <aubre> never mind me I fixed my problem
[19:52] <aubre> aubre : good news all - my system is now working and running instances
[19:53] <aubre> I can also run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade :)
[19:56] <aubre> fyi this is using latest karmic cd, lastest updates
[19:56] <aubre> and using ttx fine blog posts
[19:57] <aubre> and, todays uec-cloud images
[20:03] <bventura> _ruben still no fix, here is the answer to the dig you asked:
[20:03] <bventura> mail.mydomain.com.	300	IN	A	216.34.94.184
[20:03] <bventura> i'm not sure what that IP is, the network solutions DNS server?
[20:04] <bventura> oops crap i forgot to substitudte my real domain name hold on
[20:04] <_ruben> heheh
[20:05] <bventura> ok that seems to give the right answer (i think): first line:
[20:05] <bventura> mail.mydomain.com.	604800	IN	CNAME	ubuntusvr2.mydomain.com.
[20:05] <bventura> then
[20:05] <bventura> ubuntusvr2.mydomain.com. 604800 IN	A	75.101.46.103
[20:06] <_ruben> so your local resolver config is broken, it doesnt treat mail.mydomain.com as a fqdn
[20:06] <_ruben> one of the workarounds would be to remove "search mydomain.com" from /etc/resolv.conf
[20:07] <bventura> ok i'll try it
[20:07] <_ruben> there's also a setting somewhere (havent needed in age) that determines the number of dots required to treat it as a fqdn
[20:08] <aubre> go to http://131.204.2.52/ :) It's a Eucalyptus Ubuntu image that won't be up long , but it is there!
[20:10] <wizardslovak> hello people
[20:11] <wizardslovak> is anyone free to help me a bit?
[20:11] <_ruben> !ask
[20:11] <wizardslovak> ok i need help with partitioning
[20:13] <wizardslovak> i got 80 gb hard drive and 500 gb
[20:13] <wizardslovak> i want to have os on 80gb and have 500 gb as 2nd drive
[20:14] <wizardslovak> i need someone to help me with swap/boot and /
[20:16] <wizardslovak> it will be web server , hosting couple domains
[20:16] <wizardslovak> so i would prefer all my web sites have 20-30gb space and be on one hard drive
[20:16] <wizardslovak> pref 500 gb
[20:18] <wizardslovak> how much space i need for /boot?
[20:20] <aubre> well done to the whole UEC crew
[20:25] <wizardslovak> so swap=1.5 gb , /www=40 gb ,boot= 5gb ,/usr=20gb and then 16gb unusable space??
[20:26] <wizardslovak> or just swap +boot + / and thats it?
[20:28] <Len_> Guys, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 9.04 Server on a machine with RAID 1 set. During the installation, the installer asks to load RAID modules but it doenst appear any HD when comes to partition. Can any one help me?
[20:31] <ttx> kirkland, mathiaz: howdy
[20:33] <zul> hey ttx
[20:33] <ttx> zul: yo
[20:33] <wizardslovak> people sleepin' yest?
[20:33] <aubre> also my working image is a 2G image
[20:33] <Len_> wizardslovak: I think so
[20:34] <wizardslovak> hehe
[20:34] <wizardslovak> so whats up people?
[20:34] <aubre> running UEC
[20:34] <Len_> nothing much, and u?
[20:35] <wizardslovak> ssdd heh , just installing ubuntu server on my old machine heh
[20:36] <wizardslovak> quick question , better to install LAMP which installing system or do it later/
[20:36] <Len_> wizardslovak: Do you know what's causing Ubuntu not recognize Raid 1 during installation
[20:36] <Len_> ?
[20:36] <aubre> I like installing stuff later
[20:36] <wizardslovak> do you have raid card?
[20:37] <Len_> the raid was set during boot.
[20:37] <wizardslovak> aubre: whats the difference btw now and later? later you will do updates which will be equall
[20:37] <Len_> strange thing is that Ubuntu ask to load raid module
[20:37] <Len_> but during installation it doesnt show any HD to make partition
[20:37] <aubre> wizardslovak: my old and crusty set ways is all
[20:37] <wizardslovak> i might be wrong but i read that ubuntu server has hard times with raid1 wihout card tho
[20:38] <wizardslovak> if it doesnt see HD in installation , check cables and power cables to HDs
[20:38] <wizardslovak> aubre: i am newbie heh
[20:38] <Len_> I read something about on forums, but the informations were too vague
[20:39] <wizardslovak> some time ago i did web server but couldnt figure out postfix tho
[20:39] <wizardslovak> now i came back to finish it ;p;p
[20:39] <aubre> wizardslovak we were all newbs at one point
[20:39] <wizardslovak> Len_: if installation doesnt see HDs , There is some connection problem then
[20:39] <wizardslovak> aubre: true ,
[20:40] <wizardslovak> Len_: what about jumper settings?
[20:40] <wizardslovak> Len_: is it dell pc?
[20:40] <Len_> FP
[20:40] <Len_> HP
[20:40] <Len_> Jumper are ok, I installed Ubuntu server without raid on another machine
[20:40] <wizardslovak> aubre: i prefer when there is somebody who actually guides me true work , and i dont like to read all those howtos
[20:40] <Len_> same configuration
[20:41] <Len_> and when I erease array, it show both HD to install
[20:41] <aubre> wizardslovak: it takes some getting used to
[20:41] <wizardslovak> Len_: hmm
[20:42] <Len_> wizardslovak: hmm sounds like trouble :P
[20:42] <wizardslovak> Len_: not trouble , i just never installed raid
[20:43] <Len_> I think I'll just install it without raid then
[20:43] <wizardslovak> Len_: http://advosys.ca/viewpoints/2007/04/setting-up-software-raid-in-ubuntu-server/
[20:44] <Len_> wizardslovak: from what I know, raid software it's different when raid it's implemented on hardware
[20:45] <Len_> wizardslovak: Hardware has a better performance
[20:46] <wizardslovak> lol , i told you i dont know much about raid and never installed it
[20:47] <wizardslovak> i remember i tried it once on vmware and did have problems with it
[20:47] <wizardslovak> you guys use ssh or gui ?
[20:48] <wizardslovak> like webmin?
[20:48] <bventura> i like ssh myself
[20:48] <wizardslovak> i am just curious , i prefer ssh although its harder cause i know only handfull of commands
[20:49] <Len_> wizardslovak: I use ssh
[20:49] <bventura> it is a lot to get into but it's worth it to learn & practice
[20:49] <wizardslovak> lol i just resseted into my new installed server and there is errror 16
[20:50] <Len_> wizardslovak: since my workstation is windows I use putty
[20:50] <wizardslovak> i tried putty but couldnt transfer files (web site) from it
[20:51] <bventura> on a side note... ifyou want to have real fun with ssh, trick friends and family that use mac to give you ssh access then log onto their machine while they use it and execute a "say" command.. you can make their box start taking smack to them it's hilarious
[20:51] <bventura> i think you need to use sftp wizard
[20:52] <wizardslovak> ok now i need to figure out whats that error 16 tho
[20:53] <smoser> soren, ping
[20:53] <smoser> or maybe zul
[20:54] <smoser> what is it that sets up /mnt on a ec2 image
[20:54] <smoser> i dont see anywhere where ec2-init makes a filesystem on /dev/sdb, so i'm assuming it comes with a bare filesystem
[20:55] <osmosis> is there a way to purge all the old kernel images that I am not using anymore? I see a bunch in my grub menu.
[20:57] <smoser> i'm just wonderin because on a m1.large instance, you get 2 disks.
[20:58] <ilowe> osmosis: just "apt-get remove" the old kernel packages and they'll get cleaned out of grub's menu.lst
[21:00] <wizardslovak> ok i got it heh
[21:00] <wizardslovak> i just had to point him to sda3 to look fos boot
[21:00] <wizardslovak> my fault cause i could set it up on sda1
[21:01] <smoser> osmosis, i do something like
[21:01] <smoser> pkgs=""; for x in /boot/vmlinuz-*; do [ "${x}" = "/boot/vmlinuz-$(uname -r)" ] && { echo "skipping ${x} - cur"; continue; } ; out=$(dpkg -S "${x}") || { echo "failed ${x}"; continue; }; pkgs="${pkgs} ${out%:*}"; done; echo "remove:${pkgs}"
[21:01] <wizardslovak> smoser: pastebin
[21:01] <smoser> one line!
[21:02] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/288808/
[21:02] <jcastro> kirkland: jono asked me to put together a call for testing for eucalyptus and then run it by you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JorgeCastro/EucalyptusCFH
[21:02] <jcastro> did I miss anything?
[21:03] <smoser> instead of 'echo...remove' , you could apt-get remove ${pkgs}
[21:03] <smoser> hmm.. but that doesnt' get rid of your headers
[21:12] <StrangeCharm> how do i make a user a sudoer?
[21:13] <smoser> maybe better:
[21:13] <genii> StrangeCharm: man visudo
[21:13] <smoser> cur=$(uname -r); cur=${cur%-*}; dpkg -l | awk '$1 = "ii" && $2 ~ /linux-.*2.6/ && $2 !~ /.*'${cur}'.*/ { print $2 }'
[21:14] <smoser> that lists packages you could get rid of
[21:22] <wizardslovak> sooo
[21:26] <wizardslovak> people
[21:26] <wizardslovak> how do i set up static ip?
[21:27] <wizardslovak> on ubuntu server tho
[21:29] <soren> smoser: What's up?
[21:29] <smoser> have you done anythign with sdb and sdc ?
[21:29] <smoser> just wondering
[21:29] <soren> smoser: Oh, just saw your question. No, they are set up by EC2.
[21:29] <soren> We just mount them.
[21:30] <smoser> ok. yeah, so in a 'large', i get sdb on /mnt
[21:30] <smoser> and sdc is unmounted
[21:30] <smoser> which is fine
[21:30] <wizardslovak> what command to restart interfaces?
[21:32] <smoser> it'd be nice if i could magically raid them or something raid0 would get me (possibly) better performance
[21:32] <smoser> wizardslovak, /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[21:32] <smoser> wizardslovak, man interfaces
[21:33] <ttx> kirkland, mathiaz: o/
[21:33] <mathiaz> ttx: yo frenchie!
[21:34] <ttx> mathiaz: anything before I go to bed ?
[21:35] <mathiaz> ttx: better ask kirkland
[21:35] <mathiaz> ttx: I haven't done a lot of UEC things today (landscape SRU)
[21:36] <ttx> mathiaz: sure, you are closer to him than I am, so nudge him :)
[21:36] <mathiaz> ttx: I got the stress testing script from upstream
[21:36] <kirkland> ttx: heya
[21:36] <mathiaz> ttx: just poked him
[21:36] <kirkland> ttx: i just got poked
[21:36] <ttx> magic
[21:36] <kirkland> ttx: testing the latest iso now
[21:36] <kirkland> ttx: looking good
[21:37] <kirkland> ttx: running uec images now
[21:37] <kirkland> ttx: the dyn-block-storage bug is now confirmed
[21:37] <ttx> okokok
[21:37] <wizardslovak> http://pastebin.com/m7dca0930
[21:37] <kirkland> ttx: i'm trying to merge libvirt-0.7.1 right now, to reproduce there
[21:37] <kirkland> ttx: it's going to take me some devoted time to fix that one
[21:38] <kirkland> ttx: just warning, i'll need to shift some focus tomorrow away from strictly eucalyptus to solve that
[21:38] <kirkland> ttx: i also sent a build of eucalyptus bzr919 to my ppa
[21:38] <kirkland> ttx: i might upload that later tonight, if our testing approves it
[21:38] <kirkland> ttx: some multi-cluster fixes there
[21:39] <ttx> ok
[21:39] <kirkland> ttx: also, nurmi and i are planning on the "last" uploads to eucalyptus being tues pm
[21:39] <kirkland> ttx: rather, he understands that we should not upload anything after tues pm
[21:39] <kirkland> ttx: that should give us all wednesday to do our rc-freeze testing
[21:40] <ttx> sounds good.
[21:40] <kirkland> ttx: thanks for the test case updates
[21:40] <kirkland> ttx: those look good
[21:40] <kirkland> ttx: i made a minor change
[21:40] <kirkland> ttx: it's damn near scriptable now
[21:40] <ttx> kirkland: we'll need to change them again if we are to use a 2G uec image directly
[21:40] <kirkland> ttx: agreed
[21:41] <ttx> kirkland: ok, see you tomorrow then
[21:41] <mathiaz> ttx: I'm updating the test cases now
[21:41] <mathiaz> kirkland: ^^
[21:41] <mathiaz> ttx: to support 2G images
[21:42] <mathiaz> ttx: which I'm testing now on my UEC cluster
[21:42] <ttx> mathiaz: you were downloading the .manifest file in your instructions, I removed that part
[21:42] <kirkland> ttx: cool
[21:42] <kirkland> MatBoy: thanks
[21:42] <smoser> ttx, kirkland mathiaz, at some point soon the newly agreed upon directory layout will appear at http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/karmic/20091008.3/
[21:42] <ttx> mathiaz: any reason why ?
[21:42] <mathiaz> ttx: hm - I don't remember having written these
[21:42] <mathiaz> kirkland: ^^?
[21:42] <ttx> mathiaz: s/why/why you downloaded that file/
[21:43] <smoser> ttx, where is the docs you're working on ?
[21:43] <ttx> anyway, its not needed, so I removed it, fyi
[21:43] <mathiaz> smoser: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerEConfig
[21:43] <mathiaz> smoser: there is already http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/karmic/20091008.5/
[21:43] <ttx> ok, I'm going to bed now
[21:44]  * ttx disappears
[21:44] <kirkland> ttx: that was probably my mistake (downloading manifest)
[21:44] <ttx> ok
[21:44] <smoser> mathiaz, yeah, but the next will pop in the middle at .3 . the .5 doesn't have the 'unpacked' directory. but is otherwise (i think) the same.
[21:44] <mathiaz> smoser: ok
[21:45] <smoser> you want help updating http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerEConfig ?
[21:46] <mathiaz> smoser: I'm going to update it now
[21:46] <Bilge> How can I encrypt the root partition in place using AES?
[21:52] <mathiaz> smoser: could you review http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerEConfig?
[21:52] <mathiaz> smoser: I've updated some parts of it
[21:52] <smoser> i think this is wrong:
[21:52] <smoser> UEC_INITRD=$UEC_IMG-initrd.img-virtual
[21:53] <smoser> no '.img'
[21:54] <smoser> wget $URL/$UEC_IMG.tar.gz
[21:54] <mathiaz> smoser: right - updated
[21:54] <wizardslovak> when i had putty on xp i could login but i couldnt transfer stuff like web site
[21:56] <smoser> tar -S -xzf $UEC_IMG.tar.gz
[21:57] <smoser> then i think we might be good. mathiaz
[21:57] <mathiaz> smoser: ok - I'll update the instructions
[21:57] <mathiaz> smoser: is there any swap on the UEC image?
[21:57] <smoser> no. uec adds swap
[21:57] <smoser> ec2 is a funny world
[21:58] <mathiaz> smoser: hm - I've just booted an uec image on UEC and I don't have any swap set
[21:59] <mathiaz> smoser: what did you mean by "uec adds swap" ?
[22:00] <smoser> hold on. let me boot an ec2 to check
[22:05] <addisonj_> hmm... so trying to copy over contents of a directory except for one sub-directory inside that directory... currently to dumb to think of the best way to do that
[22:06] <smoser> mathiaz, so,on a ec2 (m1.small) when the system boots, /proc/partitions looks like:
[22:06] <smoser> $ cat /proc/partitions
[22:06] <smoser> major minor  #blocks  name
[22:06] <smoser>    8        2  156352512 sda2
[22:06] <smoser>    8        3     917504 sda3
[22:06] <smoser>    8        1   10485760 sda1
[22:06] <smoser> the uec image is only sda1
[22:06] <smoser> its a partition image
[22:07] <smoser> ec2 adds these other paritions, one with some space (that we mount at /mnt) and one with swap (sda3) that we use.
[22:07] <smoser> uec should do that too
[22:07] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://packages.debian.org/sid/libvirt-bin
[22:08] <smoser> addisonj_, i'd use rsync and --exclude
[22:10] <smoser> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/karmic/20091008.6 will have new output soon (ignore my comment on .3 before).
[22:16] <smoser> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/karmic/20091008.6/ is there now, and i'm leaving for a few hours at least. maybe till morning.
[22:28] <mathiaz> smoser: all *SUMS files are empty on http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/karmic/20091008.6/
[22:30] <foxray> hi is it possible to install ubuntu server on a virtual machine and access it from outside, trying to setup an ftp server
[22:33] <smoser> mathiaz, hmm... yeah, i'll have to look at that tomorrow, it must have not realized it should sum something named .tar.gz
[22:33] <smoser> hmm.. but then it did in the unpacked dir.
[22:33] <smoser> tomorrow.
[23:00] <MatBoy> kirkland: NP, I didn't do a thing :P ;)
[23:32] <Mike_lifeguard> Hi, I'm trying to change the motd, but I guess it keeps getting overwritten by update-motd. I like most of what that package does, but I want to remove the uname line in particular -- however I can't find where that is added (it isn't any of the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/). Does anyone know where that is added so I can remove it?
[23:40] <Administrator_> hello people
[23:40] <wizardslowik> anyones here?
[23:40] <Mike_lifeguard> wizardslowik: No, there is nobody here.
[23:41] <Mike_lifeguard> Not even me.
[23:41] <Mike_lifeguard> Or you.
[23:41] <wizardslowik> nicee
[23:42] <wizardslowik> can someone help me with setting apache for my website?
[23:43] <Mike_lifeguard> What specifically do you need help with/
[23:43] <wizardslowik> well i just made fresh install so i need someone to give me a little guide
[23:44] <wizardslowik> how to set up apache
[23:45] <wizardslowik> apache works
[23:46] <Mike_lifeguard> Maybe you should start by stating what *doesn't* work and maybe someone can help you (not me however, I know next to nothing about apache)
[23:46] <wizardslowik> ok
[23:46] <Mike_lifeguard> Also note that #httpd is apache's channel on freenode
[23:47] <ruben23> hi i have installed ubuntu-server with 2 nic cards..on the installation process both cards are detected, problem is when the installation is done, i command ifconfig only eht0 is detected
[23:47] <ruben23> what could have happened
[23:48] <ruben23> anyone have idea..?