| dobey | that was easy | 00:03 |
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| dobey | yay | 00:03 |
| === jamalta-afk is now known as jamalta | ||
| duncan | as far as terms of service go, what is the legality of backing up ones music library on ubuntu one for sync between laptop and desktop? | 03:12 |
| statik | backing up music you legally acquired is totally fine | 04:50 |
| statik | and we have no way of knowing what you are storing anyway | 04:50 |
| jimlovell777 | can someone tell me what happens when I'm editing or using a file in my UbuntuOne directory and a sync is taking place? Will any data be lost? If I open and edit a file in the UbuntuOne directory and sync up will the difference in the two files be noticed and corrected on the server? Is this a behaviour I should avoid? I ask because I'd like to have a truecrypt container within my backup folder and still access it from time to time to | 13:08 |
| jimlovell777 | keep it up to date. | 13:08 |
| facundobatista | jimlovell777, it depends what "syncs" means there | 14:01 |
| facundobatista | jimlovell777, if it's uploading a previous version to the server, it's ok, it will cancel the current upload and start the new one | 14:02 |
| facundobatista | jimlovell777, if it's downloading a version that came from another machine, you have a conflict (unless both modifications are the same), so the version from the server will finally be put in the original file, and the local change in a .u1conflict file | 14:03 |
| facundobatista | jimlovell777, of course, it depends of when the program that is editing a file actually saves new stuff to disk... | 14:03 |
| === rmcbride_ is now known as rmcbride | ||
| jblount | MEETING STARTS | 15:00 |
| jblount | statik | 15:00 |
| jblount | rodrigo_ | 15:00 |
| jblount | CardinalFang | 15:00 |
| jblount | aquarius | 15:00 |
| jblount | teknico | 15:00 |
| jblount | vds | 15:00 |
| jblount | dobey | 15:00 |
| rodrigo_ | me | 15:00 |
| jblount | jblount | 15:00 |
| jblount | urbanape | 15:00 |
| vds | me | 15:00 |
| jblount | Hello Hackers! Could you please respond with a "me" if you'd like to participate in the Desktop+ Developers Meeting? | 15:00 |
| teknico | me | 15:00 |
| aquarius | me | 15:00 |
| dobey | tricksy | 15:00 |
| dobey | me | 15:01 |
| jblount | me | 15:01 |
| CardinalFang | me | 15:01 |
| jblount | me | 15:01 |
| jblount | rodrigo_: Feel free to jump it off as you are ready, I'm sure urbanape and statik will be with us when they have opportunity :) | 15:03 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 15:03 |
| rodrigo_ | • DONE: Fixed HTML login page response for Tomboy sync (bug #440862). Prepare couchdb-glib 0.5.2 release. Tried to fix the missing 'Sync notes' menu item in Tomboy applet | 15:03 |
| rodrigo_ | • TODO: Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. Simplify tomboy syncing config UI. API documentation for couchdb-glib. | 15:03 |
| rodrigo_ | • BLOCKED: no | 15:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 440862 in ubuntuone-servers "Tomboy Web synchronization fails" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/440862 | 15:03 |
| rodrigo_ | vai vds | 15:03 |
| vds | DONE:finally landed the two branches and closed #444483 and #444053 | 15:04 |
| vds | TODO: file a bug for compacting couchdb db and start a branch fo rthat | 15:04 |
| vds | BLOCKED: | 15:04 |
| vds | teknico all you | 15:04 |
| teknico | DONE: landed the "me" record handling branch (#427807); implemented and proposed the synchronization of repeatable sections of contacts (#440070) | 15:04 |
| teknico | TODO: updating the contacts web ui code to the sprint use cases (#440070); applying the contacts web design structure to server-side code (#439089) | 15:04 |
| teknico | BLOCK: none | 15:04 |
| teknico | next: aquarius | 15:04 |
| aquarius | ⚀ DONE: landed unknownloginerror branch; fixed another bug and proposed | 15:04 |
| aquarius | ⚁ TODO: work with cardinalfang on DC-to-cloud replication; look at oauth-enabling twisted | 15:04 |
| aquarius | ⚂ BLOCKED: | 15:04 |
| aquarius | ⚃ BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 0 (!!) | 15:04 |
| aquarius | dobey, you're on | 15:04 |
| dobey | ☺ DONE: Fixed #445514 (rotate/cap oauth-login.log), #404550 (NotOnlineError), Lots of triage, Reviews | 15:04 |
| dobey | ☹ TODO: Find/fix more bugs, more triage. | 15:04 |
| dobey | jblount: your roll | 15:04 |
| dobey | ☹ BLCK: None. | 15:04 |
| jblount | DONE: Got lp:~jblount/ubuntuone-servers/one-branch-to-rule-them-all landed (thanks rmcbride!), More work on the /files/ interface, some work trying to figure out why my pqm-submit config stuff is bored | 15:05 |
| jblount | TODO: Get the above mentioned branch landed on edge so we can have people go over the copy, ping jobrien about a better upgrade templatetag, crank some more on the /files/ ui (it's soooo close!) | 15:05 |
| jblount | BLOCKED: Nope | 15:05 |
| jblount | CardinalFang: Your turn my friend | 15:05 |
| CardinalFang | DONE: Packaged sources for u1couchdb. Landed a few branches in desktopcouch. Pushed up compacting branch for eyeballing. Started work on Bug #442854. Simplified and cleaned up replication after jdo's u1 API change for couch info. | 15:05 |
| CardinalFang | TODO: Get replication tested damnit damnit damnit. Figure out what the heck to do with #442854. | 15:05 |
| CardinalFang | BLOCKED: Is u1couch server upgraded yet? | 15:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 442854 in couchdb "Daily cron fails" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/442854 | 15:05 |
| CardinalFang | jblount, I think that's the end. | 15:06 |
| jblount | CardinalFang: Right you are. | 15:06 |
| jblount | MEETING ENDS (if you want it) | 15:06 |
| jblount | I think I'm going to add "my friend" to everything I say from now on, like the most interesting man in the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bc0WjTT0Ps | 15:07 |
| CardinalFang | Just don't sound like US Sen John McCain. | 15:08 |
| jblount | heh | 15:10 |
| SEJeff | CardinalFang, Alright my friends | 15:10 |
| dobey | jblount: that is so not what i thought of when i think of the term "my friend" | 15:12 |
| dobey | jblount: "my friend" seems to be a fairly common phrase in kung-fu movies though. like "I'm gonna have to kill you now, my friend" | 15:13 |
| urbanape | me | 15:13 |
| urbanape | dammit. | 15:13 |
| dobey | you are late, my friend | 15:13 |
| urbanape | I see that. | 15:13 |
| CardinalFang | I think of the second-most interesting man in the world, the server at the mexican restaurant. Admittedly he calls me "mah freen". | 15:14 |
| SEJeff | you die now, my friend | 15:14 |
| jblount | urbanape: Now is a great time to paste, when you get your notes togther. I saw that you were busy in the #sekrit | 15:14 |
| urbanape | DONE: Fixing #444022 and helping to get it reviewed. | 15:14 |
| urbanape | TODO: Shepherd it through packaging and uploading to karmic. | 15:14 |
| urbanape | BLOCK: None. | 15:14 |
| SEJeff | Classic bad kung fu movies | 15:14 |
| dobey | the kung fu flick i watched last night. it had like 5 continuity issues in the span of like 30 seconds at one point | 15:16 |
| dobey | and i like how they all end abruptly | 15:17 |
| dobey | bad guy dies, the end. | 15:17 |
| statik | hi aquarius: can you review this branch? https://launchpad.net/~urbanape/bindwood/proper-oauth-creds/+merge/13020 it fixes a critical bindwood bug, and once approved will need to be uploaded to karmic. it really really needs to be right the first time :) | 16:00 |
| aquarius | yeah, will do. | 16:01 |
| aquarius | urbanape, statik: just tested proper-oauth-creds Bindwood branch, worked perfectly for me | 16:12 |
| statik | sweet. urbanape, let me know if you run into any roadblocks getting it merged and packaged and uploaded | 16:13 |
| urbanape | thanks. | 16:31 |
| urbanape | I'd still like to explore the encoding issues that dobey mentioned, but I think that might have to wait. | 16:31 |
| urbanape | Considering that it's working well now, I'm happy to proceed. | 16:31 |
| SEJeff | My bug was marked a dupe by rodrigo | 16:37 |
| SEJeff | But the traceback is different | 16:37 |
| SEJeff | launchpad bug # 445780 | 16:38 |
| dobey | hrmm | 17:35 |
| dobey | SEJeff: don't put a space after the # :) | 17:35 |
| dobey | #445780 | 17:35 |
| dobey | ubottu: bug #445780 | 17:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 445780 in ubuntuone-client "Syncing tomboy notes with the latest updated karmic as of 10-7-2009 (dup-of: 440862)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445780 | 17:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 440862 in ubuntuone-servers "Tomboy Web synchronization fails" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/440862 | 17:36 |
| diverse_izzue | i have ubuntuone not connect automatically the first time i log in after a system boot. the subsequent times it works. known bug? | 17:38 |
| dobey | rodrigo_: ^ hrmm, those don't look like the same issues | 17:39 |
| dobey | diverse_izzue: wouldn't know until seeing the logs | 17:39 |
| diverse_izzue | dobey, where can i find the logs? | 17:40 |
| dobey | diverse_izzue: ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/ | 17:40 |
| dobey | diverse_izzue: right clicking on the applet and choosing "Report a Bug" should attach the relevant ones to a new bug report | 17:40 |
| SEJeff | dobey, Thanks. Is it known that Tomboy <----> ubuntu one syncing still fails? | 17:42 |
| dobey | SEJeff: i don't know. possibly. rodrigo_ would know | 17:43 |
| SEJeff | Alright. | 17:43 |
| statik | SEJeff, rodrigo landed a branch to fix yet-one-more tomboy sync issue, but it's not deployed to the server yet. within the next 24 hours it will be though | 18:23 |
| SEJeff | statik, Alright | 18:26 |
| SEJeff | I'll wait for newer packages and then test them | 18:26 |
| statik | this one was a server side only fix | 18:32 |
| SEJeff | So no | 18:33 |
| SEJeff | rodrigo marked my bug a dupe, but it was a json decoder error | 18:33 |
| dobey | SEJeff: well, if the server was returning invalid json... | 18:38 |
| statik | the problem on the server was that we were sending back some login html instead of a proper json doc | 18:38 |
| statik | one of the view got incorrectly decorated with a login_required method, the root discovery view | 18:38 |
| SEJeff | dobey, No this was initial sync. It wasn't creating valid json /me thinks | 18:40 |
| SEJeff | ubuntuone is django? | 18:40 |
| SEJeff | Thats fantastic | 18:41 |
| dobey | well that would likely cause your problem :) | 18:44 |
| statik | yeah, we're using django and twisted and zope and rabbitmq and couchdb and probably more that i can't remember | 18:47 |
| SEJeff | That must be exciting to develop on. All kinds of bleeding edge stuff | 18:49 |
| statik | exciting or depressing, depending on the bug list approaching karmic release :) | 18:49 |
| statik | we just released the oops system that is the wsgi middleware we use to log errors in the servers, lp:wsgi-oops | 18:50 |
| SEJeff | Oh shiney | 18:53 |
| SEJeff | wow thanks | 18:53 |
| SEJeff | I'll use that here | 18:53 |
| SEJeff | django + storm... Will that be submitted back to django or will it stay out of tree like django + sqlalchemy | 18:56 |
| statik | SEJeff, the django-storm integration is shipped in storm currently | 19:10 |
| statik | same with storm-zope | 19:10 |
| SEJeff | Thats great. Too bad it won't work with normal django | 19:11 |
| jml | hello. | 19:11 |
| statik | AAAHAHAHAAHAHAAH jml is here | 19:11 |
| jml | I have absolutely no time to work on anything, but maybe if I hang around here I'll end up doing something cool by accident. | 19:12 |
| statik | jml, aquarius and thisfred and CardinalFang all hack on desktopcouch | 19:12 |
| * CardinalFang ducks. | 19:12 | |
| statik | SEJeff, it won't work in normal django? I don't think we are running with any django patches | 19:18 |
| statik | i don't think we have the pieces necessary if you wanted to run the admin interface via storm, but we're definitely using several vanilla django apps | 19:19 |
| SEJeff | statik, I meant with the django orm and not storm. | 19:23 |
| statik | SEJeff: ah, right. a deficiency in wsgi-oops. I'd very happily accept a patch for that - I have to fix karmic bugs now so I can't fix it myself | 19:24 |
| SEJeff | Sure | 19:24 |
| statik | SEJeff, we'll also be releasing a simple django app that analyzes and displays oops summaries, need to sort out a couple of details but hopefully it will be out in a couple of weeks | 19:24 |
| SEJeff | Can someone blog about this on p.u.o? | 19:25 |
| statik | i crashed my blog | 19:27 |
| statik | point taken though, will try to announce more widely | 19:28 |
| SEJeff | It also makes you guys (canonical) look better | 19:34 |
| SEJeff | Have it put on the fridge perhaps | 19:34 |
| statik | urbanape, did you talk to asac about uploading yet? nag, nag, nag ;) | 19:45 |
| dobey | kenvandine: ping. do you have a specific gwibber bug that the follow_name_owner_changes thing solved? | 19:53 |
| kenvandine | not specific | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | dobey, ^^ | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | but a bunch | 20:04 |
| kenvandine | dobey, the biggest thing was if either the client or the server restarted, they couldn't talk to each other anymore | 20:05 |
| dobey | kenvandine: so basically there's no way i can test it and say "ok, this solves these issues" | 20:05 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 20:05 |
| kenvandine | sure | 20:05 |
| kenvandine | kill the daemon | 20:05 |
| kenvandine | and hit refresh in the client | 20:05 |
| kenvandine | it should spawn the daemon and refresh | 20:05 |
| kenvandine | hey SEJeff | 20:05 |
| SEJeff | kenvandine, Hey. How goes the gtwibber hackerage? Its all over your facecrack | 20:11 |
| dobey | kenvandine: i more meant i can't really test it in u1 | 20:12 |
| kenvandine | dobey, yeah... not really | 20:12 |
| kenvandine | SEJeff, not bad | 20:12 |
| diverse_izzue | nautilus cannot show the contents of my ubuntu one folder, it keeps spinning the "loading" animation. on terminal i see all files. | 20:13 |
| diverse_izzue | this happens no matter whether the lcient is running or not | 20:13 |
| dobey | diverse_izzue: that sounds very odd | 20:14 |
| diverse_izzue | i know :-) | 20:14 |
| dobey | diverse_izzue: and it can show the contents of other folders? | 20:14 |
| SEJeff | kenvandine, How've you been? Karmic is going to be one of the biggest releases yet | 20:14 |
| dobey | diverse_izzue: what happens if you open "/dev/" in it? | 20:14 |
| diverse_izzue | but that's what it's doing | 20:14 |
| kenvandine | SEJeff, it's exciting :) | 20:14 |
| diverse_izzue | dobey, it shows it w/o problems | 20:14 |
| === benoitc_ is now known as benoitc | ||
| SEJeff | kenvandine, Yup and you get to keep hacking on lots of python | 20:15 |
| kenvandine | :) | 20:15 |
| dobey | diverse_izzue: that's messed up | 20:16 |
| SEJeff | kenvandine, I fell in love with django/jquery and became a superstar at work for writing some slick stuff with it. | 20:16 |
| verterok | dobey: you could hack syncdaemon's dbus interface to deregister itself from dbus and registering again ;) | 20:16 |
| diverse_izzue | dobey, do those permissions look ok? http://pastebin.com/m52404394 | 20:16 |
| dobey | verterok: well i guess it already does that sometimes? | 20:16 |
| verterok | dobey: no.. | 20:16 |
| dobey | diverse_izzue: sure | 20:16 |
| verterok | dobey: possibly if the daemon is restarted | 20:16 |
| dobey | verterok: i think the "too many timeouts" causes a restart | 20:17 |
| dobey | don't remember exactly | 20:17 |
| verterok | dobey: but I was talking for a testcase :) | 20:17 |
| diverse_izzue | dobey, a nautilus -q helped | 20:17 |
| verterok | dobey: oh, I think so, yes | 20:17 |
| dobey | diverse_izzue: weird :-/ | 20:17 |
| dobey | verterok: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/dbus-follow-name-changes/+merge/13088 | 20:17 |
| diverse_izzue | still, it's a bit disquieting | 20:18 |
| urbanape | statik, nope, not yet. | 20:21 |
| dutchie | is there anything I have to do to make tomboy note syncing work? | 20:48 |
| dobey | dutchie: i think there was some fixes that landed earlier today, that should be deployed within the next 24 hours or so | 20:52 |
| dutchie | ah, perfect timing then :) | 20:53 |
| dobey | i don't know if it fixes your specific problem, but might :) | 20:53 |
| gnomefreak | nn/win 20 | 21:36 |
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