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Iphoxsome1 can help??????02:13
Iphoxpc froozed to i restarted it and got some error  :l  and now i finally got back in and cant write nothing on the HD02:14
Iphoxthe whole filesystem is like on read mode02:14
Iphox....................02:17
artistxeI am just about through with xubuntu .04:45
artistxeit seems that I may as well have chosen gnome for my wm . it has loaded all the dependencies anyway04:46
_Techie_whats wrong with xfce4?04:52
artistxeuh. nothing wrong with xfce at all.05:01
artistxe_Techie_, it just does not support everything that I wish it would05:02
_Techie_such as?05:02
artistxewell. first of all . a launcher such as gnome-do05:02
artistxealt-F2 does not seem to cut it for me.05:03
_Techie_fair enough05:04
artistxealso. there are quite a few gnome specific applications I like to use. thank jesus I do not use and kde krap05:04
artistxethinking about going slackware direction. maybe even gentoo05:05
_Techie_gnome apps should work in xfce05:05
artistxethey do. using gnome dependencies05:06
artistxewhich (can) slow things down05:06
_Techie_brb just gonna check the config of my BNC05:08
__Techie__odd, _Techie_ should be set as away05:09
_Techie_is there anyway to have the whole of my trackpad scroll when a button is held?05:38
alyokogood morning08:40
alyokohello?08:43
Balsaqwhat gives08:47
Balsaqall those names to the right are really just a figment of yur imagination there alyoko they fix computers silently using transcendental meditation, old school!08:49
alyokohahaha....... can they fix my POS?08:54
alyokoI'm lost.... in WAY over my head08:54
alyokoI've installed xubuntu on an old machine, now it hangs at a black screen asking for "ubuntu login" which i never made one08:58
ablomenalyoko, its the username and password you entered during instalation09:02
ablomendid the screen flicker a few times before showing you the black screen btw?09:02
alyokoim a noob, this is gonna take a while i'm sure09:04
alyokoit ran through a bunch of checks and shows [ ok ] then shows Ubuntu 9.04 tty109:05
alyokoit seems like it dosent matter what i type in as it is looking for a "ubuntu login" which i never made one yet09:07
ablomenalyoko, there was a new username and password prompt while installing xubuntu, it doesnt let you leave it blank so you must have typed in something09:11
alyokoi'm sure your right however, i ONLY filled in one line for the name of the computer09:12
ablomenhmm then something went wrong with installing09:13
feeshwhat gives :|, I can't find xfce4-systray09:13
ablomenwhich cd image did you download? did you get a graphical user interface or was the installer blue and white and nothing graphical what so ever? (normal cd or alternate cd)09:14
feeshrunning 64bit xubuntu and everythings going fine cept I have no systray09:14
alyokooh thats a good question09:14
ablomenand what are the specs on the computer (as in, defign old)09:15
alyokoits a dynabook from japan the specs are........09:16
alyokohrmmmm intel celeron 650Mhrz09:19
ablomenhow mutch ram?09:19
alyoko64?09:19
alyoko20Gb HD09:20
ablomenok.. im not sure how good xubuntu is going to run (64mb is just very litle memmory) but to get it working download the alternate cd image09:21
ablomenthe normal one requires at least something like 196mb or something like that09:21
ablomenthats where it might have gone wrong09:22
alyokobut now it wont let me access the cdrom09:22
alyokohow can i format over what i have now?09:22
ablomenalyoko, shut it down first, then while booting open the cd tray, and for the formatting, let the installer handle that, while installing you get the option "use whole disk" or somthing along those lines, should be fine09:24
alyokook09:24
_Techie_alley oop09:27
alyokoi have a live feed showing what is on the screen09:27
_Techie_"all those names to the right are really just a figment of yur imagination there alyoko they fix computers silently using transcendental meditation, old school!" very nice Balsaq09:28
alyokoyes i checked my download, it was the alternate xubuntu 9.04 i38609:32
alyokoits stuck at the login, i have no idea what to do?!?!?!09:33
ablomenalyoko, hmm there should be an option in the cd boot menu called "check cd integrity" or something like that, see if there went something wrong with the burning09:35
alyokothe cd is in and re-started09:38
alyokoit automatically boots from hard drive and ignores the cd rom09:38
ablomenit will take some time btw, so i suggest you watch a movie or something ;)09:39
alyokooh i remember THAT part09:39
alyokono change! dosent do anything different, i can show a live feed if that will help09:40
alyokoor at least format this so i can start over with a smaller one like Deli which is designed for 64MB ram systems09:42
ablomenalyoko, all linux installers should have an option to format the disk, dont have to wory about that09:43
alyokobut right now i can't access the CD-ROM, it spins but seems to be ignored09:45
alyoko am i able to post a web site here or will it be blocked?09:47
ablomensure, if its on the subject, go right ahead09:49
alyokoit just shows my computers screen09:49
alyokohttp://www.blogtv.com/People/alyoko0309:49
alyokowhen i re-start the computer wtih the cd in, it is ignored and boots from the DH09:53
alyokoso i just made a new image of deli, its supose to wrok with computers with 64MB of ram09:56
alyokoim gonna load it and see if anything happens09:56
alyokoat the "gurb" how can i format the HD?10:00
ablomenno grub is the bootloader10:05
ablomenbooting from cd still didnt work10:05
alyokono10:08
alyokoi think i jsut want to format and start over10:08
alyokoi dont know how10:09
premorphosmy sound output is "lagging" afer i removed pulse and i cant figure out what i did wrong. any one got a clue on how i may fix it10:59
tavotona alguien mas le ha dejado K.O. el xubuntu una actualizacion hoy mismo ?11:34
nagyvhi! I've just upgraded a laptop to Intrepid, but when the log-in screen comes in neither the keyboard, nor the mouse work. My only option is to switch to the console with Ctrl-Alt-F1, and reboot.13:27
Pres-GasGood morrow, all.14:05
Pres-GasHey, likemindead14:20
likemindeadHello.14:22
denmarky014:35
denmark;-)14:35
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HorizonXhm, my attempt to make a karmic guest vm in vmware workstation 6.5.3 has ended in catastrophic failure >_>;16:52
HorizonXI think xorg is having a stroke D:16:52
hafksahfkhttp://mein-erstes-mal.net/?id=957688617:18
denmarky017:42
denmark:)17:42
denmarkhello all17:42
denmarkwhere i can find help in xubuntu os17:42
Sysiask :)17:43
geniidenmark: Right here.17:43
Sysior google17:43
genii!ask17:43
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:43
likemindeaddenmark, www.ubuntuforums.org as well as https://help.ubuntu.com/ as well as many independent blogs, wikis, etc.17:46
denmarkyup i know but in a chm file like ubuntu17:47
denmark:)17:48
denmarki cant find any help file in under  xubuntu ;17:48
_Pete_denmark: man -k <keyword>17:49
_Pete_might help17:49
denmarkok lemme see17:50
denmark:)17:50
Sysithere was button in bar but first thing i did was removing it17:50
Sysiin menu it is still17:50
Sysihmm, i wonder if it's help in english17:51
Pres-Gasdenmark, are you needing help with something specific?17:54
denmark@above i try it but the problem is simple my firefox not working thats why i can't see help in browser17:55
denmarkyup i am downloading lynx tar balls17:56
denmarkbut the problem is this can i install it via give method17:56
denmarklike ./configure17:56
denmarkor sudo ./configure17:56
Pres-Gasdenmark, well (x)ubuntu has lynx as a package that you can install with "sudo aptitude install lynx" http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=lynx17:58
denmarklol i didn't know that how to install from tarballs in ubuntu17:58
denmarkin other distro i simply use ./congigure17:58
denmarktypo:./configure17:59
Pres-Gasdenmark, you will also need to at least install the "build-essentials" package.17:59
denmarkbuild-essential it for install from tarballs !18:00
likemindead"sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall" denmark18:00
likemindeadThen make sure your dependencies are covered.18:00
likemindeadThen go for it!18:00
denmarkok so from this i can install software via tarballs ?18:01
Pres-Gasdenmark, yes...then you could do the "./configure; make; sudo make install" process18:03
denmark:D18:03
denmarksuperb18:03
Pres-GasIndeed18:03
denmarki can also complie cpp programs :D18:04
Pres-GasBUT, denmark, there already is a package provided...so you don't necessarily have to install from source18:04
denmarkok if i didn't get then i install from tarballs18:04
Pres-Gashttp://packages.ubuntu.com/18:04
denmarkok i bookmark this webpage :)18:05
denmarkin future i get the packges from here18:05
Pres-Gasdenmark, you can also issue "aptitude search blah" from the terminal18:05
denmark:)18:05
denmarkthanks alot18:05
denmarkawesome18:05
Pres-GasIt will list all packages available and even show if you have them installed already or not18:05
Pres-GasWe try our level best18:06
denmarkyo18:31
denmarkany body here ?18:31
Sysino, irc just died18:31
* genii sips18:31
denmarka simple question but a it most important18:32
denmarkcan installing crossover should harm my computer ?18:32
denmarkinstalling windows software on linux can give me same problems like worms,virus and trojans ?18:34
Sysinot really18:34
denmarklol thats gr818:35
denmarkwhat how can u prove this ?18:35
denmarkwhy not really mr.sysi18:36
denmark;-)18:37
Sysii've heard of that, but i wonder if theres definition avalable in english18:37
Sysiwhy btw not wine?18:38
denmarkhmm hat is the differnce between wine and crossover >18:38
denmarki think both are same :)18:38
Sysiis crossover free?18:39
denmarkno :(18:40
denmarkbut wine is free :)18:41
denmarkso why ppl use crossover ?18:41
denmarkwhy not they use wine ?18:41
Sysiif i remember right, crossover is based on some old wine18:41
denmarklol i dunno18:41
Sysii don't know people using crossover18:42
denmarkbut i can't use wine :(18:42
Sysibut it's ready configured for some games18:42
denmarkok lemme download wine  and use it18:42
Sysiit's on repositories18:43
Sysior use their own18:43
denmarkbut crossover is also awesome tool for win32 softares18:43
denmarksorry for typos18:43
Sysii'm writing bably also, expecially for english18:44
Sysinot native speaker18:44
denmarkthats gr8 me too :)18:44
denmarki love my native lang.18:44
denmarki express my self superbly in my native lang.18:45
denmarklol leave it18:45
denmarkcan u tell me why crossover ?18:45
denmarkwhy crossover if there is wine ?18:45
denmarki can't figureout what is the main difference in both ?18:46
Sysicrossover is like old, but ready configured wine18:47
Sysisome games work well, others beter with winr after configuring18:47
denmarkok lemme download wine18:48
denmarkis your official nick can u chat me tommorrow?18:48
Sysiyes18:49
Sysibut here are others also18:49
Sysiapt-get install wine, btw it's installing, not downloading18:50
denmarklol i am talking with you come tommorrow we will chat agian18:50
Sysiok18:51
denmark:) thats gr818:51
likemindeadHmm... the new Epiphany hates me. "Illegal instruction (core dumped)" right when I run epiphany-webkit. :-(18:57
mhall119|workis Xubuntu 9.10 going to use the new GDM?19:20
Pres-Gaslikemindead, did the apport (bug report section) come up when it dumped core?19:21
Pres-Gasmhall119|work, yes it is19:21
mhall119|workhow hard is that to customize?19:22
mhall119|workis there any way to support old-style themes?19:22
Pres-Gasmhall119|work, no old style themes....19:22
mhall119|work:(19:22
likemindeadNegative, Pres-Gas.19:23
Pres-Gaslikemindead, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs19:24
mhall119|workanyway, kudos to the Xubuntu team19:24
mhall119|workgood distro19:24
chardingLeft clicking the Orange clock doesn't pop up my calendar anymore.. Anyone have a reason why?19:55
cody-somervilleis it the orange clock or just the normal clock you have there?19:56
chardingorange. Running 'orange -p' seems to have fixed it19:57
chardingBut, how can I add to the 'to-do' list?19:57
Balsaqi registered my nick, they sent me the email to finish it, i followed the instruction from the email, and when i di the instructions i get a message, "must log in 1st before registering nick"?20:31
Balsaqhow do i log in in, have always came in here doing the same type of log in many times thru freenode?20:32
likemindeadIdentify via "/msg NickServ identify <password>" (but lose the quotes).20:33
Balsaqthanks likeminded all done20:37
Balsaqnow when i come on here do i use your instuctions each time so iam officially logged in?20:38
rudeb0y01hello, i installed xubuntu on my eeepc 1000he, after i login in gdm, xfce takes about 30 secs to load, i have used xfce with other distros and its very very fast loading right after the login, is there something wrong with my setup? should i fix something? i have tweaked sessions and startup with no success21:12
alyokosooooo lost, need help21:58
alyokohello?22:00
neozenhi22:02
neozendoh22:02
likemindead:-\22:02
neozenmissed him22:02
likemindeadNo patience...22:02
neozenmust not have been that important22:02
* neozen shrugs22:04
alyokohello channel, need help. i'm a nubie and soooo lost!!22:15
alyokoubuntu asks for a login and password but i never set one up, black screen no GUI22:16
alyokohow do i get it to boot from CDROM to erase and start over?22:16
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alyokohave ubuntu on an OLDER laptop 650Mhz 64 ram and 20gb HD - stuck at login, never made a login or password22:20
Sysinot enough ram i guess22:20
Sysii'm sorry but i need to go to bed, got to get up early22:21
alyokohow do i boot from CDROM22:22
likemindeadalyoko, that is not enough RAM to run any graphical version of Ubuntu.22:28
likemindeadSee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements22:30
likemindeadBuy more RAM. It's cheap. :-)22:30
alyokooh no doubt it is but that still dosent help me in THIS situation22:31
TheSheepyou can try pressing esc at boot and booting into recovery mode22:32
TheSheepthen changing the password from there22:32
likemindeadAre you sure it is installed to your hdd? I don't know how it could be without you entering a username and password.22:32
alyokostill in recovery mode runs the grub, stuck at the same screen22:32
TheSheepoh, so it failed to boot22:32
alyokoi have a live feed at blogtv to show where it is stuck22:33
alyokoim new to linux and need to format over this to try again22:33
TheSheepthe best you can do with those specs is a text-only system anyways22:33
TheSheepat least with ubuntu22:34
TheSheepyou may try puppylinux or damn small linux22:34
TheSheepthey have lower requirements22:34
alyokodeli is designed for 64MB machines22:34
TheSheepwhat is deli?22:34
alyokobut im stuck, it wont read the CDROM to format the HD again22:34
alyokodeli is another distrib of linux22:35
alyokofor 32 - 64 ram machines i found but cant install as im stuck on the login for Xubuntu 9.0422:36
alyokoif i could boot from cdrom then DBAM could wipe the drive clean and start over22:37
alyokohttp://www.blogtv.com/People/alyoko03 is my live feed of the screen where im stuck22:38
alyokothe machine is an OLD one from japan, it orginally had windows ME in japanese but was corrupted22:39
alyokohard enough fixing Me .....but in japanese is a real REAL challange22:39
TheSheepalyoko: well, how did you originally booted a cd?22:39
TheSheephow did you boot22:39
alyokofirst, formated the HD (20GB) then used Xubuntu 9.04 alternate cd (iso)22:40
TheSheepso it booted from cd just fine?22:41
TheSheepit should boot just the same now22:41
TheSheepmake sure it's set to boot from cd in bios22:41
alyokoto start yes, now the grub??? goes to hd22:41
TheSheepwell, set it to boot from cd first in bios22:42
TheSheepyou should be able to get into bios setting by pressing del or f2 or something like that at boot22:42
TheSheepit should tell you22:42
alyokothats a little hard to do too, the BIOS i believe is software, not flash22:44
alyokotoshiba dynabook, from japan22:44
TheSheepmadness22:44
alyokosheer madness22:45
TheSheephttp://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=8468022:45
alyokoyeah, been trying22:46
* TheSheep wonders what language is that22:47
alyokoon that page....i thing it tagalog22:49
alyokothink22:49
alyokophilipino22:49
TheSheepcute22:49
alyokoall i get when i enter the bios is "check system. then press [F1] key"22:50
alyokodosent seem like i can make changes22:50
TheSheep:/22:51
TheSheepand holding 'c' doesn't make it boot from cd?22:52
alyokoi dont have a terminal?22:56
alyokohttp://www.blogtv.com/People/alyoko03 is my live feed of my STUCK ubuntu login, i never made a login23:02
alyokohelp!23:10
alyokostuck at the grub login .....never made a login or password23:10
alyokostuck....need help!23:13
likemindead!ask | alyoko23:15
ubottualyoko: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:15
alyokoblack screen asking for ubuntu login , never made a login, unable to access the CDrom to reformat23:19
likemindeadAll this is happening on a hdd install?23:20
alyokoolder laptop 64MB ram, yes hd install23:20
alyokoinstalled from xubuntu 9.04 alterante iso23:21
likemindeadWhich Xubuntu or Ubuntu? Which version?23:21
likemindeadAh.23:21
likemindeadWhat's the chipset?23:21
alyokooh good question23:22
alyokointel celeron 650MHz23:22
alyoko??23:22
likemindeadGraphics?23:22
likemindeadIntel, ATI, ?23:22
alyokounmmmm23:23
alyokonot sure23:23
likemindeadI'd try booting a Damn Small Linux Live CD to troubleshoot, since you have so little RAM.23:23
alyokoTrident CyberBlade XP (AGP connection)23:24
alyokoi would like to try ANYTHING......stuck at this login, wont let me do anything else23:24
alyokoi have DSL but i cant install, the grub runs from the HD not the CDROM23:25
alyokohttp://www.blogtv.com/People/alyoko03  <-----this is a live feed of the laptop, i cnat do anything but put in a login that i never made?23:27
alyokoi can edit commands before booting, can i tell it to boot from CD?23:28
likemindeadThat should be in your BIOS settings.23:29
alyokobios is software on this machine i belive, not flash23:30
alyokotoshiba has a disk to access the bios when in windows, hehe.........23:31
likemindead!bios23:31
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bios23:31
likemindeadhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS23:32
_Techie_alyoko- enter the BIOS menu and change the boot device to cdrom23:34
_Techie_alyoko- press DEL at boot, if that doesnt work it may be F2 or F1023:35
likemindeadOr F123:35
alyokochanging boot device order is a softwear app in windows23:37
likemindeadNo, it isn't.23:37
likemindeadIt has nothing to do with your operating system.23:37
alyokoi agree, on THIS machine, in japanese, it was23:38
likemindeadBeyond me then...23:38
alyokomaybe if i pull the HD out, slave it on another computer, i can re-format it?23:39

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