[02:29] <caravena> hggdh, Hello, Now auto message: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444155
[02:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 444155 in telepathy-butterfly "[needs-packaging] New release for telepathy-butterfly, update to 0.5.1" [Wishlist,New]
[02:57] <aryonoco> Hi all. Want to report a bug about a wireless card which is not recognised by Karmic. Which package should I submit the bug to?
[03:25] <mahdi> Hi, I cannot use persian character in Wine applications ! should I add my language somewhere ? It shows the characters as square !
[03:47] <kklimonda> bug 446817 is missing a coredump, is it because user decided not to send full report?
[03:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 446817 in transmission "transmission crashed with SIGSEGV in malloc()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/446817
[04:04] <hggdh> might be, kklimonda. Never did any non-full report, but sounds like it
[04:04] <kklimonda> yeah, just dug into source
[04:04] <kklimonda> it's most likely that
[04:05] <hggdh> well, anyway, we already know is memory related ;-)
[04:07] <kklimonda> heh :)
[04:08] <hggdh> er, kklimonda, I think you forgot to state what is the crucial data we were missing
[04:10] <kklimonda> heh, not really - but I forgot to mention that he has to send complete report
[04:11] <kklimonda> thanks for reminding me.
[04:11] <kklimonda> I shouldn't really do this at this hour but got too curious about it to go to sleep
[04:14] <hggdh> heh. And I am going to hit the pillow in a few, and I am *at least* 7 hours earlier than you...
[04:14] <hggdh> that is, if you are Paris time
[04:14] <kklimonda> more or less
[04:15] <kklimonda> it's UTC+1 I think
[04:15] <kklimonda> or maybe +2 at this time of the year
[04:22] <hggdh> and I am UTC-5
[04:22] <hggdh> or UTC-6, never remember
[04:23] <hggdh> df -k .
[04:23] <hggdh> oops, wrong windows
[04:23] <kklimonda> ok, work done.. now I can.. hmm.. go to sleep for 2 hours..
[04:24] <kklimonda> oh well, whatever - cu :)
[04:24] <hggdh> cu
[04:24] <kklimonda> hggdh: happens to me all the time :)
[04:24] <hggdh> I only get insomnia when I am traveling
[04:24] <hggdh> about 80% of the time
[08:35] <beakergeek724> Just installed Karmic and I can't figure out which package to file a bug report against.  Gnome-do and indicator-applet both fail to display messages correctly.
[08:36] <beakergeek724> I'm not sure what they have in common, but the problem looks the same in both.
[08:38] <thekorn_> beakergeek724, what do you mean by "fail to display messages correctly", can you show me a screenshot?
[08:38] <thekorn_> is it string encoding?
[08:39] <beakergeek724> It looks similar to what I see when a program just displays the random noise that happens to be in the unused video memory.  I'll see if I can get a screenshot.
[08:45] <beakergeek724> Here's what I see when I run gnome-do: http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewstinar/3995159770/
[08:47] <beakergeek724> But when I get an IM in Empathy, I see a similar block where I'm supposed to see a notification.
[08:51] <thekorn_> beakergeek724, I think the target of your bugreport depends on the graphic card/driver you use
[08:55] <beakergeek724> Lshw shows it as "Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]".  So this would be a bug in the open source ATI driver?
[09:02] <thekorn_> beakergeek724, ok, so I think you should report your bug by running     ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-ati
[09:08] <beakergeek724> thekorn_, Thanks. I was able to find an existing bug that describes my problem.
[09:29] <kblin> morning folks
[09:29] <kblin> I've just reported a bug that was closed as a dup, but I can't access the one it's a dup of
[09:30] <kblin> how do I get information on that bug?
[09:31] <micahg1> kblin: what's the bug #?
[09:32] <kblin> bug #433186
[09:32] <ubot4> kblin: Bug 433186 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/433186 is private
[09:32] <kblin> thanks ubot4 so I noticed
[09:33] <kblin> which does explain why I didn't see a bug report about this in the list, of course :)
[09:34] <micahg> yes, there's some text in there that I"m not sure about
[09:35] <micahg> I'm not comfortable making it public
[09:35] <micahg> but someone else might know what that string it
[09:35] <micahg> *is
[09:35] <micahg> kblin: things should pick up in here in an hour or 2
[09:36] <kblin> ok, it's not that urgent
[09:36] <kblin> I don't have a kill switch for bluetooth anyway
[09:36] <kblin> though I do have issues with bluetooth not being found on that box
[09:37] <kblin> I was wondering if that was related
[09:38] <kblin> I just was a bit annoyed to get an email telling me my report was a dup, just to go to that bug's page and get told that no, I can't look at it
[09:38] <joaopinto> kblin, I had the same problem, decided to remove the dup from mine
[09:39] <kblin> that's a good point, though :)
[09:42] <micahg> please don't do that especially if it's duped by the retracer
[09:43] <joaopinto> micahg, I did that and I got the bug fixed upstream, unlike the other private bug which never got any work
[09:43] <micahg> oh
[09:43] <micahg> hmmm
[09:43] <joaopinto> if we report a bug we expect to follow-up the bug
[09:43] <kblin> hehe
[09:43] <kblin> I can't re-mark it as dup anyway :)
[09:43] <micahg> yes, but the best thing to do is to come in here like kblin and ask for it to be made public
[09:43] <joaopinto> the retracer when chosing between a public and private bug, should set the duplication on the private on, since a public bug is much more handy in general
[09:44] <kblin> I agree there
[09:44] <joaopinto> micahg, not everyone that files bugs knows abouts #ubuntu-bugs, it introduces another type of resource into a bug report workflow
[09:44] <micahg> joaopinto: well, not that +filebug redirects to an instruction page, people will
[09:44] <micahg> (now
[09:45] <kblin> there's no way to recover attachments, I take?
[09:45] <micahg> it's also in the list of IRC channels
[09:45] <micahg> kblin: from what?
[09:45] <joaopinto> micahg, I don't remember reading anything about #ubuntu-bugs when using ubuntu-bug, also, I would not expect someone to be forced to use IRC to follow-up a bug :)
[09:46] <kblin> the retracer deleted all the attachments on my bug report when it decided it was a bug
[09:46] <micahg> well, that's true if you use ubuntu-bug
[09:46] <micahg> kblin: yes, because they were unnecessary and might pose a security risk to you once the bug is made public
[09:47] <micahg> there can be private data in the attachments
[09:47] <joaopinto> erm, isn't that the visibility field is for ?
[09:47] <kblin> which is why I looked through the attachments before submitting. I didn't see anything. Arguably I didn't strings the coredump..
[09:48]  * kblin shrugs
[09:48] <micahg> yeah, the coredump is the main problem
[09:48] <micahg> in terms of security
[09:48] <micahg> that's why crashes are private by default
[09:49] <joaopinto> I need to file a bug against retracer, I hope it doesn' nuke him :P
[09:49] <kblin> yeah, but information about my system would be helpful, and now I need to reenter it manually
[09:49] <kblin> joaopinto: if you do, file a bug about that ;)
[09:49] <joaopinto> would it be a launchpad bug ?
[09:49] <joaopinto> retracer is LP builtin right ?
[09:49] <micahg> well
[09:50] <micahg> not exactly
[09:50] <joaopinto> it's an external bot ?
[09:50] <micahg> https://edge.launchpad.net/~apport
[09:50] <joaopinto> micahg, tks
[09:53] <micahg> kblin: like I said, check back here in a few hours and someone should be able to make public, I'm just not comfortable doing it
[09:54] <micahg> joaopinto: I'll mention in our next meeting about making this channel more prominent for bug help
[09:57] <kblin> micahg: thanks, even if you're gone now :)
[12:48] <rbanffy_> Hi, folks. The page at "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+filebug" is redirecting to "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs". Is that normal? I would like to report a crash my netbook suffered when plugging in a second screen while running off the Karmic beta CD, but it seems next to impossible
[12:50] <rbanffy_> And it's even more impossible because I am on another computer that doesn't run Ubuntu (it could, conceivably)
[12:51] <Pici> rbanffy_: The page it redirects you to explains how to file a bug manually if you cannot use the tools within Ubuntu to file the bug.
[12:57] <rbanffy_> Pici: What was wrong with the old, traditional way, of filing bugs? ;-) Thanks. I found it. Wouldn't it be nice to have a "I know what I am doing, just file it" link somewhere?
[12:58] <Pici> rbanffy_: The new way tries to make sure that all the debug information is included with the report so that bugs don't need to be filed as incomplete.
[13:00] <rbanffy_> Pici: I understand this is a better way, but it won't work when the system about which you are reporting the bug is not running. It shouldn't be that hard to file a bug in these less than ideal situation. A lot of bugs will go unreported this way
[13:12] <rbanffy_> Pici: Thanks. #447174 reported old-style.
[16:10] <gpled> hello
[16:57] <chommik> hello
[16:58] <jonathan1> hello
[16:59] <chommik> i'd like to file a bug in beta, but i don't know the package responding for it
[16:59] <chommik> i think that is may be caused by not stopping gdm at restart.
[16:59] <jonathan1> sorry, I am not the one to help.
[17:00] <jonathan1> I am sure that someone here will help
[17:00] <chommik> it's not a serious bug, but only a bit annoying
[17:02] <hggdh> chommik: what happens?
[17:05] <chommik> hggdh: at end od install it seems that Xorg restarts
[17:05] <chommik> and can't reboot
[17:05] <hggdh> during install from the ISO, then?
[17:06] <chommik> i choose install mode (second position from bootloader)
[17:06] <hggdh> open a bug against debian-installer
[17:06] <chommik> okay, thanks :)
[17:06] <hggdh> welcome
[17:10] <micahg> hggdh: can you at bug 433186, one of the people with dupes was requesting it be made public
[17:10] <ubot4> micahg: Bug 433186 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/433186 is private
[17:10] <micahg> but I wasn't sure about the stacktrace
[17:10] <hggdh> micahg: looking
[17:12] <hggdh> micahg: I do not think there is any private data there -- too early in the init (and it is HAL), so I went ahead and marked it public
[17:13] <micahg> ok, wasn'l sure about the string if characters
[17:13] <micahg> *of
[17:53] <kblin> hey folks
[17:54] <kblin> my bug was closed as a dup of bug #433186
[17:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 433186 in hal "hald-addon-ipw-killswitch crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_start_main()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/433186
[17:54] <kblin> ah, nm
[17:54] <kblin> I should have rechecked first
[17:55] <cyn> Hi, i'm new, i don't understand exactly how to help, what shall i do when i see a new bug in the list?
[17:56] <cyn> try it for myself? see the package where it belongs? where assign a package?
[17:56] <cyn> or try the programs and report bugs?
[17:58] <darthanubis> anyone with a Nvidia card running gnome with compiz enabled care to try something out for me, please?
[17:59] <joaopinto> cyn, start by reading the channel topic
[19:32] <mpt> One of the updates I just installed today makes Xorg peg my CPU. How can I get a list of which packages were updated?
[19:32] <mpt> Synaptic's History doesn't show it, I guess because aptdaemon was performing the update
[19:33] <joaopinto> maybe /var/log/dpkg.log ?
[19:34] <mpt> ah, thank you joaopinto
[22:18] <Kamusin> which package do I mark for a translation issue?
[22:37] <darthanubis> anyone with a Nvidia card running gnome with compiz enabled care to try something out for me, please?
[22:45] <unit3> Before I file something on launchpad, has anyone seen authentication problems with libpam-ldap on karmic?
[22:46] <unit3> Identical configs (which have worked since feisty) now fail on a fresh karmic install.
[22:46] <unit3> libnss-ldap is working fine, so "getent passwd" shows all the right accounts, but libpam-ldap now fails to verify account existence, or auth creds.
[22:47] <hggdh> unit3: did you search LP for a hit?
[22:48] <unit3> I did, there's no open bugs on the package that are similar from what I can see.
[22:48] <hggdh> OK. Then I would say this is good enough to open a new bug.
[22:49] <unit3> Alright. I guess that means no-one in here has a quick fix. Damn. :)
[22:49] <unit3> New bug it is! :)
[22:51] <unit3> oh look... now it works. wth. well, maybe the problem was with the ldap server and nscd then, and now that I've puzzled over it for an hour, it fixed itself.
[22:51] <unit3> that's ok with me, actually. ;)
[22:52] <komputes> Can someone who has bug control permissions set Bug #291853 back to Triaged. Thanks.
[22:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 291853 in libgweather "Weather service does not add entry if city is selected but "Timezone" field is "Unknown"" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291853
[22:58] <yofel> anybody an idea what went wrong with apport-collect in bug 445241 ? And is it supposed to ask for 'Change anything' privileges?
[22:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 445241 in linux "ibm thinkpad t40: audio doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445241
[23:16] <hggdh> yofel, yes, it asks for full access
[23:17] <yofel> ok, thx