[00:59] good evening [01:07] I'am sorry to disturb you, and I'am also sorry for my english but anyway I have a question about mythbutun. I'am trying to install mythbuntu on a old laptop (thinkpad) with no functional screen, I am using a external screen wich works fine for installing any OS (including the ubuntu part for mythbuntu). But when i get to the mythtv first configuartion my screen just show some weird feature (grey and black boxes). Any idea ? th [01:15] sounds like you probably have an ati card in there [01:15] there is a known issue with 9.04 [01:15] look at the 9.04 release notes for it [01:15] there's a few workarounds you can do, or run 9.10 [01:18] two years ago I hoped that ATI drivers would greatly improve after they opened up a bunch of their hardware specs. It didn't happen :( [01:31] ok i read the bug comment, i found few solution thanks for the hint [01:36] so no solutions for hwr-1600 remote control issues in 9.10? [01:43] I have a problem. The livecd is not correctly detecting my onboard nvidia 7150 and is producing garbled display. since alternate cd's are no longer offered, how can I work around this? :( [01:45] Use the Ubuntu alternate CD? [01:47] hads, I always do;) [01:47] Or a server or minimal CD or something [01:47] You have to use the alt cd if you are using LVM [01:52] what version of mysql should be on with 9.10 [01:52] mythexport seems to not like 5.1 [01:57] could someone help me with getting my MCE remote working? irw sees the buttons being pressed but myth doesn't do anything [01:57] yeah i wish [01:57] i can't even get irw working [01:58] well that's frustrating [02:07] hads, there isnt a mythbuntu 9.04 or 9.10 alternate cd [02:17] kost_, i'm not sure an alternate would even help your scenario [02:17] are you on 9.04 or 9.10? [02:18] im trying 9.10 mythbuntu [02:18] the screen comes up as garbled junk. i was able to fix this previously by using an alternate cd to install, then installing the proprietary nvidia drivers [02:18] but the alternate cd's are no longer put out [02:20] is this remote the "new" or "old" version? [02:20] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880121003 [02:21] kost_, can you determine if it's booting up with vesa or nv at least? [02:21] how would i do that? trying to open a terminal with ctrl alt f1 doesnt bring me a login [02:21] im pretty sure its booting with nv, but the open source nv driver doesnt support my card [02:21] i need to use vesa [02:27] well there should be a menu option to force vesa [02:27] like F6 or something [02:27] at the CD boot men [02:28] yeah im trying that now [02:28] nope didnt work. man this is getting irritating :( [02:28] kost_: "Use the Ubuntu alternate CD?" "Or a server or minimal CD or something" [02:28] I know there is no mythbuntu alternate CD [02:28] hads the alternate cd's were discontinued after 8.10 [02:29] but thanks for the suggestion [02:30] I'm not going to say it again. [02:30] i bet the vesa force logic got broke when xorg.conf stopped getting made [02:31] yeah i noticed there is no xorg.conf anymore [02:31] so if you can boot into single user mode i can propose one more solution [02:31] no one on here is running the MCE remote? [02:31] mythbuntu doesn't have daily CD builds, does it? [02:31] ToeBee, there are actually [02:32] cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/ [02:32] orly... [02:32] D_finn: i am [02:32] kost_, so if you can get into single user mode (usually just press F6 and add single to the end of that kernel command line) [02:32] i used the "new" choice in the remote list [02:32] sudo jockey-text -e xorg:nvidia-185 && sudo service gdm restart [02:32] and that was it, the rest just worked? [02:33] that will get you the proprietary nvidia driver in live mode [02:33] yeah. i had to add some more stuff for it to work in xine properly [02:33] i just plugged in the usb reciever and selected new, philips et al [02:33] i don't get what could be my issue then [02:33] sec superm1 let me try that [02:33] i did that exactly and am not getting any response from myth, boxee or mplayer [02:33] but irw sees the buttons being pressed [02:33] superm1: thanks [02:34] D_finn, did you check the box to generate a lircrc? [02:34] D_finn: did you tell it to generate .... yeah [02:34] there's a box that says generate dynamic button mappings, is that the one? [02:34] i chose that [02:35] i check that, hit apply, it does it's thing and then when it goes back to the mcc window the box is unchecked [02:35] that means that it worked generally [02:35] check ~/.lircrc [02:35] and ~/.lirc/mythtv [02:35] see how they're looking [02:36] for which user? [02:36] the user you are running mcc as [02:36] and launching myth etc [02:36] this should all be the same user.... [02:37] .lircrc has a bunch of inlcude statements of files under ~/.lirc [02:37] those files exist [02:37] so check ~/.lirc/mythtv [02:37] see if it looks good [02:38] it's 291 lines, looks to have definitions for buttons [02:38] they all say remote = mceusb [02:38] sound about right? [02:40] yeah [02:40] you can try running ircat mythtv [02:40] and see if it detects errors anywhere [02:41] * mishehu bahs. [02:41] it's telling me what buttons i'm pressing on the remote [02:42] then it sounds like everything works [02:42] good :) [02:42] I'm running latest beta. I have no idea what I changed recently but my task list panel always shows on the top even when in live tv mode, tips ? [02:43] yeah, this would be awesome if I bought the remote so I could watch irw and ircat scroll across my screen all day as I pushed buttons on the remote :( [02:43] haha [02:43] okay so next thing, mythfrontend -v help [02:43] and try the appropriate verbosity levels [02:45] how do I get the task list panel at the top of the screen (one with applications menu) to not be visible when mythfrontend is running or in live tv mode [02:46] hipitihop, are you running compiz? [02:46] or gnome at all, or xfce? [02:46] 2009-10-08 19:46:05.108 lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages [02:46] ^ what does that mean? [02:46] ... [02:46] sounds to me like your problem :) [02:47] the next line reads: [02:47] 2009-10-08 19:46:05.109 JoystickMenuClient Error: Joystick disabled - Failed to read /home/dfinn/.mythtv/joystickmenurc [02:47] superm1: standard install so afaik it is xfce [02:48] D_finn, look at the preceding messages [02:48] might be a good idea to use mlg [02:48] !logs [02:48] MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin. [02:48] run that tool and we can try to see better wazup here [02:49] mythtv: could not connect to socket [02:49] mythtv: Connection refused [02:50] superm1: it was fine after I upgraded to latest beta but no idea what I changed recently, afaik was just using alt-tab to try and bring up mixer while frontend was up to get audio over hdmi working [02:50] now the task list always stays up even after reboot [02:51] the task list panel doesn't seem to have an auto hide property or anything I can see [02:51] D_finn, lircd is running right? what's the permissions on /dev/lirc* look like? [02:51] hipitihop, so maybe you've got an app running in the background? [02:52] hipitihop, you can move ~/.config and ~/.cache out of the way and logout login to reset all that stuff [02:52] crw-rw---- 1 root root 61, 0 2009-10-08 19:52 /dev/lirc0 [02:52] srw-rw-rw- 1 root root 0 2009-10-08 19:52 /dev/lircd [02:52] yeah that all looks right [02:52] root 7311 0.0 0.0 3116 568 ? S well man, i dunno [02:54] what other stuff have you done weird to this install? [02:54] installed anything from source rather than binary debs? [02:54] not a single thing [02:55] can you show me your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf file? [02:56] sure [02:56] http://pastebin.com/f7e57f1c8 [02:56] nothing changed from a vanilla install remote wise [02:59] and your /etc/lircd.conf just says: [02:59] include "/usr/share/lirc/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb" [03:00] http://pastebin.com/f7f442160 [03:01] well, this is pretty annoying [03:01] i have no idea what it could be [03:01] if you've got nothing else invested, try a reinstall [03:01] couldn't kill it at this point [03:01] mine works OOTB on the next reboot choosing it in the installer [03:02] just started it up again and didn't get the error this time [03:02] but also have a blank tv screen [03:03] sweet, looks like the computer crashed [03:03] this is awesome [03:03] i'm really questioning why I didn't stick with windows and BeyondTV [03:04] blank tv screen is usually a permissions problem [03:04] !permissions [03:04] Most things mythtv related (recording directories, etc) need to be owned by the group mythtv and the user mythtv If you are getting "not writable" errors, check your permissions [03:04] !blank [03:04] Sorry I don't know about blank [03:04] !help [03:04] !help For a complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number]. [03:04] no, it actually crashed the box [03:04] no more ping response, blank screen [03:05] !blankscreen [03:05] oh [03:05] If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory. It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory [03:05] so maybe its just a flaky motherboard in the first place [03:05] superm1: tried .cache and .config out of the way and that stopped mythfrontend from launching automatically but when I ran it from the menu then task list still stays on top [03:06] now i'm back to getting the error [03:07] Comments like "i'm really questioning why I didn't stick with windows" aren't really that helpful. [03:07] yeah, probably true. excuse my frustration [03:08] You're excused :) [03:11] not sure what it is..if its lirc version or what [03:11] just know that with 9.04 my remote worked great [03:11] with 9.10 [03:12] it doesn't even show up as lirc0, or some event number that other bugs have been listing [03:12] and mythexport has issues with sql on install - filed that bug 10 minutes ago [03:12] Bug 10 in malone "It says "displaying matching bugs 1 to 8 of 8", but there is 9" [Medium, Invalid] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/10 [03:20] does anyone know how to hide the task list panel at the top when mythtvfrontend has focus [03:21] If should do by itself. [03:21] There used to be an issue with compiz, not sure uf that's still valid. [03:25] hads: yes and it used to and I have no idea what I did or how to reset that behaviour [04:08] arg! with today's daily beta CD my sound card doesn't work at all! [04:08] yesterday it worked from the liveCD and then didn't work from a hard drive install [04:09] ToeBee, ugh that's not good... [04:09] do you at least have mixers? [04:09] saw this bug yesterday... might be related https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/442793 [04:10] I have alsamixer and the "Mixer" app int he multimedia menu [04:10] however the PCM channel is not listed in the mixer app [04:10] so we haven't gotten down to the bottom of that bug yet [04:10] use alsamixer on command line [04:10] I see it in alsamixer [04:10] so is something muted? [04:11] Line, Front Mic, Mic and Beep are muted [04:11] but that seems fine [04:11] master front and pcm are not [04:12] but then again, it may be something to do with my hardware... I have seen some oddness in vanilla ubuntu liveCDs as well (I posted the link to the other bug) [04:16] and why does mplayer claim to be using pulse for audio output? [04:16] pulse is not running... [04:18] it's the default for mplayer [04:18] or even installed for that matter [04:18] mplayer isn't on the live disks anymore i thought [04:18] it shouldnt be at least [04:18] it is on this one... [04:18] interesting. that's bug :) [04:19] try using VLC [04:20] well still no sound [04:20] also specifying -ao alsa|oss doesn't do anything in mplayer [04:20] for that matter cat'ing a file to /dev/dsp doesn't do anything either :) [04:26] heh in fact, checking for updates from the liveCD says there is an mplayer update available [04:30] ha [04:31] although according to synaptic, mythbuntu-desktop no longer recommends mplayer [04:31] looks like it's coming in by mythvideo: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/mythbuntu.karmic/all [04:31] although I'm not sure if that is the old or the new version [04:32] aha [04:33] that should be dropped to suggests now that Internal works well [04:33] it's only needed for vcd's [04:33] oh wait a min. mythvideo recommend xine | ogle | mplayer [04:33] xine should have been picked then [04:34] well is that for 22242 or 22304? [04:35] that's bzr trunk of the packaging [04:35] so it would be 22304 [04:35] well I'm thinking maybe 22242 recommended/depended on mplayer. That's the version that was on the CD [04:36] but regardless, mplayer is not the cause of my sound-not-workingness :) [04:36] yeah. [04:36] (next upload will fix the mplayer stuff though now) [04:37] so the absolute best think you can do is compare the manifests from the cd that worked and the cd that didn't [04:37] find the packages that are different [04:37] and look at what changed [04:39] who was that complaining about no X and safe graphics not workign? [04:39] bug 423969. just fixed that for future dailies [04:39] Bug 423969 in casper (Ubuntu) ""Safe Graphics Mode" doesn't force VESA" [Undecided, Fix Released] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/423969 [04:39] kost_ [04:40] ah guess we lost him [04:41] hmm so what, I should do a dpkg --list after booting both CDs and then diff it? [04:42] there's actually a manifest on the cds [04:42] in the casper/ directory [04:42] filesystem.manifest [04:42] ah [04:43] even better. Can do that by just mounting the ISOs [04:49] ah yes... for starters, the one that worked didn't have alsa-utils, alsa-base or linux-sound-base on it which I found somewhat odd [04:50] yeah that was a big bug [04:50] thankfully people have been reporting these kinds of things in time for them to still be fixed [04:50] and yet sound worked... [04:51] that's REally bizarre [05:00] aha! found my other 1 GB USB stick. I'll double check that these CD images are what I think they are. I've been downloading just about one a day lately [05:03] yeah the naming scheme sucks [05:03] especially when you forget to rename them after downloading [05:04] yeah would be good to have the date in there somewhere [05:04] md5sums help [05:04] .disk/info helps too [05:04] it's in the iso [05:25] superm1: ok here are my basic observations after verifying ISOs and such: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m7bbb9d12 [05:28] would it be much trouble to compare to an ubuntu disk? [05:28] hopefully the same day as our daily? [05:28] if it's still got problems, you can raise it with all the normal ubuntu audio guys [05:28] and if it doesn't, then we have a baseline to find the delta [05:29] heh my ISP may hate me this month [05:32] not that there is much love lost normally... === Wy____ is now known as Wy [06:29] superm1: looks like my sound is broken in the october 8 ubuntu CD as well :( [06:30] ToeBee, well that's good though. raise an ubuntu bug for it and there is that whole set of people to help too :) [06:39] well I already filed this bug for some weirdness I was seeing even though sound kind of worked. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/439779 [06:39] so I guess I'll update it [12:50] WEEEEEEEEEE! [13:50] Greetings all, I know this probibly one of the most asked questions, I am looking for a good video card with IR receiver / blaster to work with myth any recommendations [13:53] do you mean capture card? [13:53] hey! [13:54] only a short question: is there a console command for refreshing the database in mythbuntu? [13:55] MythbuntuGuest02: by database you mean channel listings right? [13:55] no, the movie database [13:55] i transfer movie files via LAN [13:56] now i want to edit the sql database, but movies won't be listed in the sql database until i refreshed the movie list in mythbuntu [13:56] would be perfect if i could do it via ssh [13:56] MythbuntuGuest02: what version of mythbuntu? [13:57] still 7.10 [13:58] rhpot1991: lol yes capture card... its a bit early for me [13:59] MythbuntuGuest02: gonna be tough there, this is about the only thing I can thing of: http://thepisanis.com/node/11 [13:59] looks like tgm4883 already packaged it some time ago: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5669899 [13:59] rhpot1991: I am looking for a ATSC / ClearQAM / NTSC Capture Card with built in IR Receiver / Blaster [14:00] OmniCitadel: most of the supported hauppauge cards should work well [14:00] but I'd recommend a HDHR, and then a seperate IR dongle [14:01] great rhpot1991! woudln't you recommend using that package? [14:01] like this: http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Control-Receiver-Windows-A9O-00007/dp/B00066FIO6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1255093231&sr=8-1 [14:01] OmniCitadel: ^ that will work out of the box [14:01] rhpot1991: I have a harmony remote... will any IR dongle work out of the box? [14:02] MythbuntuGuest02: well it wouldn't hurt to try [14:02] OmniCitadel: yep, harmony remotes know the phillips commands they use [14:03] thats what I use are harmony 880s [14:04] well i have a usb IR dongle which i got for syncing my pocketpc back in the day would that work? [14:05] doubtful, but you could try to find a modle and google [14:10] Doh The HDHR does not suport NTSC [14:30] rhpot1991: I got it figured out... I was thinking i needed NTSC due to most cable channels being analog, but they are not really they are ClearQAM. Additionally the HDHR's have IR Receivers in them. Thanks for the assistance [14:34] h [14:34] rhpot1991: may you help me installing the updating-tool? [14:35] i got nio i [14:35] internet connection on the mythbuntu running system [14:35] only the tar.gz is downloadabel, can't see any deb file [14:52] OmniCitadel: ya not sure how well the IR in the HDHR is, I don't use it, but something is there for you to play with [14:59] sorry rhpot1991, did you write anything concerning my question? [15:02] and play I shall :-D [15:02] MythbuntuGuest22: location has changed: https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/testing [15:02] but they are all newer than 7.10, so you may or may not have issues [15:04] but can i install the package without internet connection on the mythbuntu sys? [15:05] can't find any helpful files I could handle. just the archive in tar.gz format [15:07] you can download the debs directly from here: https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/testing/+packages [15:07] you can try installing the hardy one and seeing how that goes [15:11] thanks! unfortunately it requires newer packages [15:12] won't finish configuration [15:40] thank you very much for your help anyways rhpot1991! [16:10] morning [16:11] nice to see mythexport bug fixed, now just need to get my remote and lcd working and i'll be happy with 0.22 [16:11] or 9.10 i guess is the issue lirc/lcdproc not mythtv [16:11] issues [19:47] hello. i installed mythtv manually from source and the mythfrontend startup script from mythbuntu got overwritten. Does anyone know where i can find that file? [19:48] mythtv-frontend package [19:48] why'd you install from source? [19:48] we provide builds of fixes and trunk [19:48] because i want to try to change some things in the source [19:49] it's better to rebuild debs usually then [19:49] so it is not possible to find that one file? [19:49] it is [19:50] look at the bzr repo: lp:~ubuntu-mythtv/mythtv/mythtv-trunk-022/ [19:50] thank you [20:06] getting an error with mythtv's internal player [20:07] it speeds up the video at a random starting point [20:07] but the sound plays normally [20:09] the movie is ripped from DVD as vobs, the same thing happens with the actual DVD [20:09] DVD works fine using mplayer [20:09] affernoon [20:09] Seeker`, dpkg -l mythtv-frontend [20:09] hi [20:10] ii mythtv-frontend 0.22.0~trunk22227-0ubuntu0~my A personal video recorder application (client) [20:10] just thought, I haven't done an apt-get upgrade in a few days [20:13] Seeker`, I think there was a bug on that once [20:13] !bug 433988 [20:13] Bug 433988 in mythbuntu "trunk/0.22 mythvideo DVD Menu looped audio plays too fast" [Low, Fix Released] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/433988 [20:14] doesn't sound the same. Will upgrade after this episode [20:15] Seeker`, I was having the same issue, reported it there. Should have been fixed in 22167 [20:16] k [20:16] so if it's still happening, you will need to update the bug [20:16] I don't think i've tried it since the fix [20:16] too many other things to work on [20:16] especially now with the hulu desktop player [20:21] getting an error with upgrading [20:22] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mythtv-common_0.22.0~trunk22322-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mythtv/themes/BlackCurves-OSD/osd_status_frame.png', which is also in package mythtv-theme-mythbuntu [20:22] superm1, ^ [20:35] tgm4883: any bright ideas? [20:37] Seeker`, file a bug on that [20:37] !bugs [20:37] bot died? [20:37] fun times [20:38] launchpad.net/mythbuntu [20:39] I downloaded the mythtv-theme-mythbuntu package separately [20:39] which I'm guessing has caused the problem [20:40] I think we may already have a bug on that. superm1 knows about it. [20:40] Seeker`, tgm4883 it's fixed in tonight's builds [20:40] good deal [20:41] when will that be ready? [20:41] teal button doesnt work anymore so i couldn't queue it up that way [20:41] Seeker`, for now you can just install mythtv-common with force-overwrite [20:42] force-overwrite? [20:43] Seeker`, dpkg -i --force-overwrite BLAHDOTDEB [20:44] ty [20:59] tgm4883: same bug still [21:01] which one? [21:03] superm1: playing a VOB on the internal player, sound is normal speed, video is fine for a imnute or so, then video speed sup [21:03] oh [21:03] but the immediate issue about overwrite files isn't [21:03] okay :) [21:04] no, the overwrite files came about because I was trying to upgrade to fix the video issue [21:27] hello [21:32] !hi | juju [21:32] juju: Hi $nick, how are you? Something we can help you with today? [21:33] maybe I will find someone with a solution to my problem here ;) [21:33] all my Audio cd stutter during playback with mythmusic [21:34] Mplayer has the same problem except if I use a cache of 2mb [21:35] I saw some other guy with this kind of problem on google or myth maling list, but it did not help to solve.... [22:00] What version are you running juju? [22:04] and how slow is your connection? [22:05] I tried 0.21 and current unstable [22:15] tgm4883: do I need to do anything to the status of the bug? [22:20] Seeker`, say it is still happening, attach the data that mrand requested [22:20] can't get the data incredibly easily [22:20] girlfriend is wathing TV [22:21] get it later ten [22:21] then [22:21] simple question.... every time i boot up, the screen is in the wrong display resolution. how can i fix this? i set it with the nvidia settings manager and wrote it to xorg.conf, but it wont stop reverting [22:21] kost_, did you run the nvidia settings manager with sudo? [22:22] yes, and i verified the xorg.conf reflects the settings [22:23] ok i just also set it under display prefs. maybe that one will stick lol [22:25] woot! fixed. it worked [22:28] kost_, you missed my comment yesterday. i wrote a patch for safe graphics mode [22:28] would you be able to test it on tonight's daily to verify it works? [22:28] that or today's ubuntu daily contains it too (but not the mythbuntu daily) [22:29] superm1: i found someone also reported my exact issue at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/425372 [22:30] but sure ill test it. im pretty new to this stuff, how do i download the daily build? [22:30] kost_, cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live has the ubuntu dailies [22:30] cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/daily-live has the mythbuntu ones [22:31] just to test safe graphics mode, grab the ubuntu one, and hit F4 at the menu and pick safe graphics [22:31] if that works, it will be working on the dailies for mythbuntu starting tomorrow [22:31] ok sure, ill test it tonight when i get home :) [22:31] afterward we can try to investigate why your card isn't working OOTB [22:31] cool thanks [22:31] do you want me to test mythbuntu daily build, the regular ubuntu, or both? [22:34] ubuntu build from today is fine [22:34] the code is the same for this particular functionality [22:34] the mythbuntu build isn't done until 1:06am central time [22:34] ok [22:35] grr a setting moved in mythtv .22. im looking where the method to display video went. i want to set it to use xvmc so i dont have choppy video playback. any idea where that moved to? [22:35] there's a profiles section [22:35] you set the profile based on resolution [22:35] playback settings still [22:37] oh its probably in the setup, not in the frontend settings. doh [22:39] its in the frontend [22:39] under TV settings, there is a playback option i thought [22:41] yeah it looks like there is... i have options like cpu+, cpu++, etc. ill have to read up on them. i dont see xvmc [22:43] i had everything setup nice on mythbuntu 8.04, then i upgraded and forgot where everything was :P [22:44] superm1: do i want 20091009.1 or 20091009 to test your patch [22:46] kost_, 20091009.1 [22:46] you dont need to do an install, just boot it with safe graphics mode, and that's it [22:46] sure thing. ill test it out [22:46] thx [22:49] aha! no wonder i didnt see xvmc, instead the profiles have been renamed to things like cpu--. :) [22:53] you should use vdpau though for your hardwaer [22:53] you had an ion didn't you? [22:54] nope its a geforce 7050pv/630i combo motherboard [22:54] i dont see how to setup vdpau, ill have to read more. [23:04] oh the geforce 7 series don't support VPDAU [23:04] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU [23:07] think its worth upgrading for? [23:08] I can go buy one if it makes a noticeable difference :) [23:08] yes it will [23:10] superm1, you around? [23:10] maybe [23:11] I have some issues with the beta [23:12] by default, the backend startup and shutdown commands don't work. I had to change them mythtv-setup, and modify sudoers. [23:12] how are those supposed to work? [23:12] what are they actually used for? [23:13] when running mythtv-setup, when it asks you if it can shutdown the backend... [23:13] and when it tries to start it up again [23:13] there may be other instances, but those are the big ones. [23:13] if mythtv-setup can't start mythbackend correctly when you exit it, it can hang as well [23:14] or at least it did once for me while I played around with those settings [23:14] if that's it, then changing it to gksudo service mythtv-backend stop would fix it [23:14] our wrapper script does all that for you though i thoguth [23:14] that would work. I did it with regular sudo and the init scripts, though I guess that's not the prefered way now, right? [23:15] well if this is ONLY used for that purpose, gksudo makes fine sense [23:15] i thought it was something with remote backends or something [23:15] other issue with setting up my HDHR, I setup the two tuners (not by IP, but by MAC), and when I load up mythweb, I see three encoders listed [23:16] please file a bug so that we can track this and investigate it [23:16] very odd [23:16] that's normal [23:16] HDHR supports multirec [23:16] ah, okay [23:16] I've never encountered that. what's multirec? [23:17] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Record_multiple_channels_from_one_multiplex [23:17] support was added for HDHR in 0.22 [23:18] oh, neato. [23:18] also, I think mythfilldatabase is segfaulting on me [23:19] wait, not anymore [23:19] It did, but lets just chalk that up to silliness during setup [23:22] i've been seeing that too, but we can't get a good backtrace about it [23:26] any idea how the HDHR deal with two devices trying to utilize it? [23:32] also, I can't login to the mythbuntu xsession on my backend. I don't know if it's because it's running in a VNC terminal or not [23:32] but it shouldn't know the difference. It should just think it's a frame buffer [23:38] no idea on the HDHR [23:38] what you mean a VNC terminal? [23:38] vnc is configured to start after you log in [23:38] eg it doesn't start at gdm [23:39] well... when you run a guest in HVM mode in Xen, the terminal is plugged into a VNC server [23:39] at least, if you enable it when you launch the guest. [23:41] hmm... my MCE remote isn't working out of the box either [23:46] ah, thats my setup at fault. I have two IR receivers (the MCE one, and the Soundgraph one in my Antec Fusion case). [23:53] hmmm... so, now that I've defined a Videos storage group, how do I get them to my frontend? [23:53] they're there by default [23:54] no files found [23:55] scan for changes [23:55] leave the menu [23:55] count to 5 [23:55] go back in [23:55] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_.22_Transition_Guide [23:56] aha, I'm used to the video manager scanning right away