[00:59] <Eys> good evening
[01:07] <Eys> I'am sorry to disturb you, and I'am also sorry for my english but anyway I have a question about mythbutun. I'am trying to install mythbuntu on a old laptop (thinkpad) with no functional screen, I am using a external screen wich works fine for installing any OS (including the ubuntu part for mythbuntu). But when i get to the mythtv first configuartion my screen just show some weird feature (grey and black boxes). Any idea ? th
[01:15] <superm1> sounds like you probably have an ati card in there
[01:15] <superm1> there is a known issue with 9.04
[01:15] <superm1> look at the 9.04 release notes for it
[01:15] <superm1> there's a few workarounds you can do, or run 9.10
[01:18] <ToeBee> two years ago I hoped that ATI drivers would greatly improve after they opened up a bunch of their hardware specs. It didn't happen :(
[01:31] <Eys> ok i read the bug comment,  i found few solution thanks for the hint
[01:36] <tmkt> so no solutions for hwr-1600 remote control issues in 9.10?
[01:43] <kost_> I have a problem. The livecd is not correctly detecting my onboard nvidia 7150 and is producing garbled display. since alternate cd's are no longer offered, how can I work around this? :(
[01:45] <hads> Use the Ubuntu alternate CD?
[01:47] <darthanubis> hads, I always do;)
[01:47] <hads> Or a server or minimal CD or something
[01:47] <darthanubis> You have to use the alt cd if you are using LVM
[01:52] <tmkt>  what version of mysql should be on with 9.10
[01:52] <tmkt> mythexport seems to not like 5.1
[01:57] <D_finn> could someone help me with getting my MCE remote working?  irw sees the buttons being pressed but myth doesn't do anything
[01:57] <tmkt> yeah i wish
[01:57] <tmkt> i can't even get irw working
[01:58] <D_finn> well that's frustrating
[02:07] <kost_> hads, there isnt a mythbuntu 9.04 or 9.10 alternate cd
[02:17] <superm1> kost_, i'm not sure an alternate would even help your scenario
[02:17] <superm1> are you on 9.04 or 9.10?
[02:18] <kost_> im trying 9.10 mythbuntu
[02:18] <kost_> the screen comes up as garbled junk. i was able to fix this previously by using an alternate cd to install, then installing the proprietary nvidia drivers
[02:18] <kost_> but the alternate cd's are no longer put out
[02:20] <D_finn> is this remote the "new" or "old" version?
[02:20] <D_finn> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880121003
[02:21] <superm1> kost_, can you determine if it's booting up with vesa or nv at least?
[02:21] <kost_> how would i do that? trying to open a terminal with ctrl alt f1 doesnt bring me a login
[02:21] <kost_> im pretty sure its booting with nv, but the open source nv driver doesnt support my card
[02:21] <kost_> i need to use vesa
[02:27] <superm1> well there should be a menu option to force vesa
[02:27] <superm1> like F6 or something
[02:27] <superm1> at the CD boot men
[02:28] <kost_> yeah im trying that now
[02:28] <kost_> nope didnt work. man this is getting irritating :(
[02:28] <hads> kost_: "Use the Ubuntu alternate CD?" "Or a server or minimal CD or something"
[02:28] <hads> I know there is no mythbuntu alternate CD
[02:28] <kost_> hads the alternate cd's were discontinued after 8.10
[02:29] <kost_> but thanks for the suggestion
[02:30] <hads> I'm not going to say it again.
[02:30] <superm1> i bet the vesa force logic got broke when xorg.conf stopped getting made
[02:31] <kost_> yeah i noticed there is no xorg.conf anymore
[02:31] <superm1> so if you can boot into single user mode i can propose one more solution
[02:31] <D_finn> no one on here is running the MCE remote?
[02:31] <ToeBee> mythbuntu doesn't have daily CD builds, does it?
[02:31] <superm1> ToeBee, there are actually
[02:32] <superm1> cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/
[02:32] <ToeBee> orly...
[02:32] <kost_> D_finn:  i am
[02:32] <superm1> kost_, so if you can get into single user mode (usually just press F6 and add single to the end of that kernel command line)
[02:32] <kost_> i used the "new" choice in the remote list
[02:32] <superm1> sudo jockey-text -e xorg:nvidia-185 && sudo service gdm restart
[02:32] <D_finn> and that was it, the rest just worked?
[02:33] <superm1> that will get you the proprietary nvidia driver in live mode
[02:33] <kost_> yeah. i had to add some more stuff for it to work in xine properly
[02:33] <kost_> i just plugged in the usb reciever and selected new, philips et al
[02:33] <D_finn> i don't get what could be my issue then
[02:33] <kost_> sec superm1 let me try that
[02:33] <D_finn> i did that exactly and am not getting any response from myth, boxee or mplayer
[02:33] <D_finn> but irw sees the buttons being pressed
[02:33] <ToeBee> superm1: thanks
[02:34] <superm1> D_finn, did you check the box to generate a lircrc?
[02:34] <kost_> D_finn: did you tell it to generate .... yeah
[02:34] <D_finn> there's a box that says generate dynamic button mappings, is that the one?
[02:34] <kost_> i chose that
[02:35] <D_finn> i check that, hit apply, it does it's thing and then when it goes back to the mcc window the box is unchecked
[02:35] <superm1> that means that it worked generally
[02:35] <superm1> check ~/.lircrc
[02:35] <superm1> and ~/.lirc/mythtv
[02:35] <superm1> see how they're looking
[02:36] <D_finn> for which user?
[02:36] <superm1> the user you are running mcc as
[02:36] <superm1> and launching myth etc
[02:36] <superm1> this should all be the same user....
[02:37] <D_finn> .lircrc has a bunch of inlcude statements of files under ~/.lirc
[02:37] <D_finn> those files exist
[02:37] <superm1> so check ~/.lirc/mythtv
[02:37] <superm1> see if it looks good
[02:38] <D_finn> it's 291 lines, looks to have definitions for buttons
[02:38] <D_finn> they all say remote = mceusb
[02:38] <D_finn> sound about right?
[02:40] <superm1> yeah
[02:40] <superm1> you can try running ircat mythtv
[02:40] <superm1> and see if it detects errors anywhere
[02:41]  * mishehu bahs.
[02:41] <D_finn> it's telling me what buttons i'm pressing on the remote
[02:42] <superm1> then it sounds like everything works
[02:42] <superm1> good :)
[02:42] <hipitihop> I'm running latest beta. I have no idea what I changed recently but my task list panel always shows on the top even when in live tv mode, tips ?
[02:43] <D_finn> yeah, this would be awesome if I bought the remote so I could watch irw and ircat scroll across my screen all day as I pushed buttons on the remote :(
[02:43] <superm1> haha
[02:43] <superm1> okay so next thing, mythfrontend -v help
[02:43] <superm1> and try the appropriate verbosity levels
[02:45] <hipitihop> how do I get the task list panel at the top of the screen (one with applications menu) to not be visible when mythfrontend is running or in live tv mode
[02:46] <superm1> hipitihop, are you running compiz?
[02:46] <superm1> or gnome at all, or xfce?
[02:46] <D_finn> 2009-10-08 19:46:05.108 lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding messages
[02:46] <D_finn> ^ what does that mean?
[02:46] <hads> ...
[02:46] <superm1> sounds to me like your problem :)
[02:47] <D_finn> the next line reads:
[02:47] <D_finn> 2009-10-08 19:46:05.109 JoystickMenuClient Error: Joystick disabled - Failed to read /home/dfinn/.mythtv/joystickmenurc
[02:47] <hipitihop> superm1: standard install so afaik it is xfce
[02:48] <superm1> D_finn, look at the preceding messages
[02:48] <superm1> might be a good idea to use mlg
[02:48] <superm1> !logs
[02:48] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[02:48] <superm1> run that tool and we can try to see better wazup here
[02:49] <D_finn> mythtv: could not connect to socket
[02:49] <D_finn> mythtv: Connection refused
[02:50] <hipitihop> superm1: it was fine after I upgraded to latest beta but no idea what I changed recently, afaik was just using alt-tab to try and bring up mixer while frontend was up to get audio over hdmi working
[02:50] <hipitihop> now the task list always stays up even after reboot
[02:51] <hipitihop> the task list panel doesn't seem to have an auto hide property or anything I can see
[02:51] <superm1> D_finn, lircd is running right?  what's the permissions on /dev/lirc* look like?
[02:51] <superm1> hipitihop, so maybe you've got an app running in the background?
[02:52] <superm1> hipitihop, you can move ~/.config and ~/.cache out of the way and logout login to reset all that stuff
[02:52] <D_finn> crw-rw---- 1 root root 61, 0 2009-10-08 19:52 /dev/lirc0
[02:52] <D_finn> srw-rw-rw- 1 root root     0 2009-10-08 19:52 /dev/lircd
[02:52] <superm1> yeah that all looks right
[02:52] <D_finn> root      7311  0.0  0.0   3116   568 ?        S<s  19:52   0:00 /usr/sbin/lircd --device=/dev/lirc0
[02:53] <superm1> well man, i dunno
[02:54] <superm1> what other stuff have you done weird to this install?
[02:54] <superm1> installed anything from source rather than binary debs?
[02:54] <D_finn> not a single thing
[02:55] <D_finn> can you show me your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf file?
[02:56] <superm1> sure
[02:56] <superm1> http://pastebin.com/f7e57f1c8
[02:56] <superm1> nothing changed from a vanilla install remote wise
[02:59] <D_finn> and your /etc/lircd.conf just says:
[02:59] <D_finn> include "/usr/share/lirc/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb"
[03:00] <superm1> http://pastebin.com/f7f442160
[03:01] <D_finn> well, this is pretty annoying
[03:01] <D_finn> i have no idea what it could be
[03:01] <superm1> if you've got nothing else invested, try a reinstall
[03:01] <superm1> couldn't kill it at this point
[03:01] <superm1> mine works OOTB on the next reboot choosing it in the installer
[03:02] <D_finn> just started it up again and didn't get the error this time
[03:02] <D_finn> but also have a blank tv screen
[03:03] <D_finn> sweet, looks like the computer crashed
[03:03] <D_finn> this is awesome
[03:03] <D_finn> i'm really questioning why I didn't stick with windows and BeyondTV
[03:04] <superm1> blank tv screen is usually a permissions problem
[03:04] <superm1> !permissions
[03:04] <Zinn> Most things mythtv related (recording directories, etc) need to be owned by the group mythtv and the user mythtv  If you are getting "not writable" errors, check your permissions
[03:04] <superm1> !blank
[03:04] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about blank
[03:04] <superm1> !help
[03:04] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[03:04] <D_finn> no, it actually crashed the box
[03:04] <D_finn> no more ping response, blank screen
[03:05] <superm1> !blankscreen
[03:05] <superm1> oh
[03:05] <Zinn> If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[03:05] <superm1> so maybe its just a flaky motherboard in the first place
[03:05] <hipitihop> superm1: tried .cache and .config out of the way and that stopped mythfrontend from launching automatically but when I ran it from the menu then task list still stays on top
[03:06] <D_finn> now i'm back to getting the error
[03:07] <hads> Comments like "i'm really questioning why I didn't stick with windows" aren't really that helpful.
[03:07] <D_finn> yeah, probably true.  excuse my frustration
[03:08] <hads> You're excused :)
[03:11] <tmkt> not sure what it is..if its lirc version or what
[03:11] <tmkt> just know that with 9.04 my remote worked great
[03:11] <tmkt> with 9.10
[03:12] <tmkt> it doesn't even show up as lirc0, or some event number that other bugs have been listing
[03:12] <tmkt> and mythexport has issues with sql on install - filed that bug 10 minutes ago
[03:12] <Zinn> Bug 10 in malone "It says "displaying matching bugs 1 to 8 of 8", but there is 9" [Medium, Invalid] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/10
[03:20] <hipitihop> does anyone know how to hide the task list panel at the top when mythtvfrontend has focus
[03:21] <hads> If should do by itself.
[03:21] <hads> There used to be an issue with compiz, not sure uf that's still valid.
[03:25] <hipitihop> hads: yes and it used to and I have no idea what I did or how to reset that behaviour
[04:08] <ToeBee> arg! with today's daily beta CD my sound card doesn't work at all!
[04:08] <ToeBee> yesterday it worked from the liveCD and then didn't work from a hard drive install
[04:09] <superm1> ToeBee, ugh that's not good...
[04:09] <superm1> do you at least have mixers?
[04:09] <ToeBee> saw this bug yesterday... might be related https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/442793
[04:10] <ToeBee> I have alsamixer and the "Mixer" app int he multimedia menu
[04:10] <ToeBee> however the PCM channel is not listed in the mixer app
[04:10] <superm1> so we haven't gotten down to the bottom of that bug yet
[04:10] <superm1> use alsamixer on command line
[04:10] <ToeBee> I see it in alsamixer
[04:10] <superm1> so is something muted?
[04:11] <ToeBee> Line, Front Mic, Mic and Beep are muted
[04:11] <ToeBee> but that seems fine
[04:11] <ToeBee> master front and pcm are not
[04:12] <ToeBee> but then again, it may be something to do with my hardware... I have seen some oddness in vanilla ubuntu liveCDs as well (I posted the link to the other bug)
[04:16] <ToeBee> and why does mplayer claim to be using pulse for audio output?
[04:16] <ToeBee> pulse is not running...
[04:18] <superm1> it's the default for mplayer
[04:18] <ToeBee> or even installed for that matter
[04:18] <superm1> mplayer isn't on the live disks anymore i thought
[04:18] <superm1> it shouldnt be at least
[04:18] <ToeBee> it is on this one...
[04:18] <superm1> interesting.  that's bug :)
[04:19] <superm1> try using VLC
[04:20] <ToeBee> well still no sound
[04:20] <ToeBee> also specifying -ao alsa|oss doesn't do anything in mplayer
[04:20] <ToeBee> for that matter cat'ing a file to /dev/dsp doesn't do anything either :)
[04:26] <ToeBee> heh in fact, checking for updates from the liveCD says there is an mplayer update available
[04:30] <superm1> ha
[04:31] <ToeBee> although according to synaptic, mythbuntu-desktop no longer recommends mplayer
[04:31] <superm1> looks like it's coming in by mythvideo: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/mythbuntu.karmic/all
[04:31] <ToeBee> although I'm not sure if that is the old or the new version
[04:32] <ToeBee> aha
[04:33] <superm1> that should be dropped to suggests now that Internal works well
[04:33] <superm1> it's only needed for vcd's
[04:33] <superm1> oh wait a min.  mythvideo recommend xine | ogle | mplayer
[04:33] <superm1> xine should have been picked then
[04:34] <ToeBee> well is that for 22242 or 22304?
[04:35] <superm1> that's bzr trunk of the packaging
[04:35] <superm1> so it would be 22304
[04:35] <ToeBee> well I'm thinking maybe 22242 recommended/depended on mplayer. That's the version that was on the CD
[04:36] <ToeBee> but regardless, mplayer is not the cause of my sound-not-workingness :)
[04:36] <superm1> yeah.
[04:36] <superm1> (next upload will fix the mplayer stuff though now)
[04:37] <superm1> so the absolute best think you can do is compare the manifests from the cd that worked and the cd that didn't
[04:37] <superm1> find the packages that are different
[04:37] <superm1> and look at what changed
[04:39] <superm1> who was that complaining about no X and safe graphics not workign?
[04:39] <superm1> bug 423969.  just fixed that for future dailies
[04:39] <Zinn> Bug 423969 in casper (Ubuntu) ""Safe Graphics Mode" doesn't force VESA" [Undecided, Fix Released] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/423969
[04:39] <ToeBee> kost_
[04:40] <superm1> ah guess we lost him
[04:41] <ToeBee> hmm so what, I should do a dpkg --list after booting both CDs and then diff it?
[04:42] <superm1> there's actually a manifest on the cds
[04:42] <superm1> in the casper/ directory
[04:42] <superm1> filesystem.manifest
[04:42] <ToeBee> ah
[04:43] <ToeBee> even better. Can do that by just mounting the ISOs
[04:49] <ToeBee> ah yes... for starters, the one that worked didn't have alsa-utils, alsa-base or linux-sound-base on it which I found somewhat odd
[04:50] <superm1> yeah that was a big bug
[04:50] <superm1> thankfully people have been reporting these kinds of things in time for them to still be fixed
[04:50] <ToeBee> and yet sound worked...
[04:51] <superm1> that's REally bizarre
[05:00] <ToeBee> aha! found my other 1 GB USB stick. I'll double check that these CD images are what I think they are. I've been downloading just about one a day lately
[05:03] <superm1> yeah the naming scheme sucks
[05:03] <superm1> especially when you forget to rename them after downloading
[05:04] <ToeBee> yeah would be good to have the date in there somewhere
[05:04] <ToeBee> md5sums help
[05:04] <superm1> .disk/info helps too
[05:04] <superm1> it's in the iso
[05:25] <ToeBee> superm1: ok here are my basic observations after verifying ISOs and such: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m7bbb9d12
[05:28] <superm1> would it be much trouble to compare to an ubuntu disk?
[05:28] <superm1> hopefully the same day as our daily?
[05:28] <superm1> if it's still got problems, you can raise it with all the normal ubuntu audio guys
[05:28] <superm1> and if it doesn't, then we have a baseline to find the delta
[05:29] <ToeBee> heh my ISP may hate me this month
[05:32] <ToeBee> not that there is much love lost normally...
[06:29] <ToeBee> superm1: looks like my sound is broken in the october 8 ubuntu CD as well :(
[06:30] <superm1> ToeBee, well that's good though.  raise an ubuntu bug for it and there is that whole set of people to help too :)
[06:39] <ToeBee> well I already filed this bug for some weirdness I was seeing even though sound kind of worked. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/439779
[06:39] <ToeBee> so I guess I'll update it
[12:50] <Essobi> WEEEEEEEEEE!
[13:50] <OmniCitadel> Greetings all, I know this probibly one of the most asked questions, I am looking for a good video card with IR receiver / blaster to work with myth any recommendations
[13:53] <rhpot1991> do you mean capture card?
[13:53] <MythbuntuGuest02> hey!
[13:54] <MythbuntuGuest02> only a short question: is there a console command for refreshing the database in mythbuntu?
[13:55] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest02: by database you mean channel listings right?
[13:55] <MythbuntuGuest02> no, the movie database
[13:55] <MythbuntuGuest02> i transfer movie files via LAN
[13:56] <MythbuntuGuest02> now i want to edit the sql database, but movies won't be listed in the sql database until i refreshed the movie list in mythbuntu
[13:56] <MythbuntuGuest02> would be perfect if i could do it via ssh
[13:56] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest02: what version of mythbuntu?
[13:57] <MythbuntuGuest02> still 7.10
[13:58] <OmniCitadel> rhpot1991: lol yes capture card... its a bit early for me
[13:59] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest02: gonna be tough there, this is about the only thing I can thing of: http://thepisanis.com/node/11
[13:59] <rhpot1991> looks like tgm4883 already packaged it some time ago: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5669899
[13:59] <OmniCitadel> rhpot1991: I am looking for a ATSC / ClearQAM / NTSC Capture Card with built in IR Receiver / Blaster
[14:00] <rhpot1991> OmniCitadel: most of the supported hauppauge cards should work well
[14:00] <rhpot1991> but I'd recommend a HDHR, and then a seperate IR dongle
[14:01] <MythbuntuGuest02> great rhpot1991! woudln't you recommend using that package?
[14:01] <rhpot1991> like this: http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Control-Receiver-Windows-A9O-00007/dp/B00066FIO6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1255093231&sr=8-1
[14:01] <rhpot1991> OmniCitadel: ^ that will work out of the box
[14:01] <OmniCitadel> rhpot1991: I have a harmony remote... will any IR dongle work out of the box?
[14:02] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest02: well it wouldn't hurt to try
[14:02] <rhpot1991> OmniCitadel: yep, harmony remotes know the phillips commands they use
[14:03] <rhpot1991> thats what I use are harmony 880s
[14:04] <OmniCitadel> well i have a usb IR dongle which i got for syncing my pocketpc back in the day would that work?
[14:05] <rhpot1991> doubtful, but you could try to find a modle and google
[14:10] <OmniCitadel> Doh The HDHR does not suport NTSC
[14:30] <OmniCitadel> rhpot1991: I got it figured out... I was thinking i needed NTSC due to most cable channels being analog, but they are not really they are ClearQAM. Additionally the HDHR's have IR Receivers in them. Thanks for the assistance
[14:34] <MythbuntuGuest02> h
[14:34] <MythbuntuGuest02> rhpot1991: may you help me installing the updating-tool?
[14:35] <MythbuntuGuest02> i got nio i
[14:35] <MythbuntuGuest02> internet connection on the mythbuntu running system
[14:35] <MythbuntuGuest02> only the tar.gz is downloadabel, can't see any deb file
[14:52] <rhpot1991> OmniCitadel: ya not sure how well the IR in the HDHR is, I don't use it, but something is there for you to play with
[14:59] <MythbuntuGuest22> sorry rhpot1991, did you write anything concerning my question?
[15:02] <OmniCitadel> and play I shall :-D
[15:02] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest22: location has changed: https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/testing
[15:02] <rhpot1991> but they are all newer than 7.10, so you may or may not have issues
[15:04] <MythbuntuGuest22> but can i install the package without internet connection on the mythbuntu sys?
[15:05] <MythbuntuGuest22> can't find any helpful files I could handle. just the archive in tar.gz format
[15:07] <rhpot1991> you can download the debs directly from here: https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/testing/+packages
[15:07] <rhpot1991> you can try installing the hardy one and seeing how that goes
[15:11] <MythbuntuGuest22> thanks! unfortunately it requires newer packages
[15:12] <MythbuntuGuest22> won't finish configuration
[15:40] <MythbuntuGuest22> thank you very much for your help anyways rhpot1991!
[16:10] <tmkt> morning
[16:11] <tmkt> nice to see mythexport bug fixed, now just need to get my remote and lcd working and i'll be happy with 0.22
[16:11] <tmkt> or 9.10 i guess is the issue lirc/lcdproc not mythtv
[16:11] <tmkt> issues
[19:47] <MythbuntuGuest45> hello. i installed mythtv manually from source and the mythfrontend startup script from mythbuntu got overwritten. Does anyone know where i can find that file?
[19:48] <superm1> mythtv-frontend package
[19:48] <superm1> why'd you install from source?
[19:48] <superm1> we provide builds of fixes and trunk
[19:48] <MythbuntuGuest45> because i want to try to change some things in the source
[19:49] <superm1> it's better to rebuild debs usually then
[19:49] <MythbuntuGuest45> so it is not possible to find that one file?
[19:49] <superm1> it is
[19:50] <superm1> look at the bzr repo: lp:~ubuntu-mythtv/mythtv/mythtv-trunk-022/
[19:50] <MythbuntuGuest45> thank you
[20:06] <Seeker`> getting an error with mythtv's internal player
[20:07] <Seeker`> it speeds up the video at a random starting point
[20:07] <Seeker`> but the sound plays normally
[20:09] <Seeker`> the movie is ripped from DVD as vobs, the same thing happens with the actual DVD
[20:09] <Seeker`> DVD works fine using mplayer
[20:09] <tmkt> affernoon
[20:09] <tgm4883> Seeker`, dpkg -l mythtv-frontend
[20:09] <Seeker`> hi
[20:10] <Seeker`> ii  mythtv-frontend               0.22.0~trunk22227-0ubuntu0~my A personal video recorder application (client)
[20:10] <Seeker`> just thought, I haven't done an apt-get upgrade in a few days
[20:13] <tgm4883> Seeker`, I think there was a bug on that once
[20:13] <tgm4883> !bug 433988
[20:13] <Zinn> Bug 433988 in mythbuntu "trunk/0.22 mythvideo DVD Menu looped audio plays too fast" [Low, Fix Released] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/433988
[20:14] <Seeker`> doesn't sound the same. Will upgrade after this episode
[20:15] <tgm4883> Seeker`, I was having the same issue, reported it there. Should have been fixed in 22167
[20:16] <Seeker`> k
[20:16] <tgm4883> so if it's still happening, you will need to update the bug
[20:16] <tgm4883> I don't think i've tried it since the fix
[20:16] <tgm4883> too many other things to work on
[20:16] <tgm4883> especially now with the hulu desktop player
[20:21] <Seeker`> getting an error with upgrading
[20:22] <Seeker`> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mythtv-common_0.22.0~trunk22322-0ubuntu0~mythbuntu1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mythtv/themes/BlackCurves-OSD/osd_status_frame.png', which is also in package mythtv-theme-mythbuntu
[20:22] <tgm4883> superm1, ^
[20:35] <Seeker`> tgm4883: any bright ideas?
[20:37] <tgm4883> Seeker`, file a bug on that
[20:37] <tgm4883> !bugs
[20:37] <Seeker`> bot died?
[20:37] <tgm4883> fun times
[20:38] <tgm4883> launchpad.net/mythbuntu
[20:39] <Seeker`> I downloaded the mythtv-theme-mythbuntu package separately
[20:39] <Seeker`> which I'm guessing has caused the problem
[20:40] <mrand> I think we may already have a bug on that.  superm1 knows about it.
[20:40] <superm1> Seeker`, tgm4883 it's fixed in tonight's builds
[20:40] <tgm4883> good deal
[20:41] <Seeker`> when will that be ready?
[20:41] <superm1> teal button doesnt work anymore so i couldn't queue it up that way
[20:41] <superm1> Seeker`, for now you can just install mythtv-common with force-overwrite
[20:42] <Seeker`> force-overwrite?
[20:43] <superm1> Seeker`, dpkg -i --force-overwrite BLAHDOTDEB
[20:44] <Seeker`> ty
[20:59] <Seeker`> tgm4883: same bug still
[21:01] <superm1> which one?
[21:03] <Seeker`> superm1: playing a VOB on the internal player, sound is normal speed, video is fine for a imnute or so, then video speed sup
[21:03] <superm1> oh
[21:03] <superm1> but the immediate issue about overwrite files isn't
[21:03] <superm1> okay :)
[21:04] <Seeker`> no, the overwrite files came about because I was trying to upgrade to fix the video issue
[21:27] <juju> hello
[21:32] <tgm4883> !hi | juju
[21:32] <Zinn> juju: Hi $nick, how are you?  Something we can help you with today?
[21:33] <juju> maybe I will find someone with a solution to my problem here ;)
[21:33] <juju> all my Audio cd stutter during playback with mythmusic
[21:34] <juju> Mplayer has the same problem except if I use a cache of 2mb
[21:35] <juju> I saw some other guy with this kind of problem on google or myth maling list, but it did not help to solve....
[22:00] <mrand> What version are you running juju?
[22:04] <tgm4883> and how slow is your connection?
[22:05] <juju> I tried 0.21 and current unstable
[22:15] <Seeker`> tgm4883: do I need to do anything to the status of the bug?
[22:20] <tgm4883> Seeker`, say it is still happening, attach the data that mrand requested
[22:20] <Seeker`> can't get the data incredibly easily
[22:20] <Seeker`> girlfriend is wathing TV
[22:21] <tgm4883> get it later ten
[22:21] <tgm4883> then
[22:21] <kost_> simple question.... every time i boot up, the screen is in the wrong display resolution. how can i fix this? i set it with the nvidia settings manager and wrote it to xorg.conf, but it wont stop reverting
[22:21] <tgm4883> kost_, did you run the nvidia settings manager with sudo?
[22:22] <kost_> yes, and i verified the xorg.conf reflects the settings
[22:23] <kost_> ok i just also set it under display prefs. maybe that one will stick lol
[22:25] <kost_> woot! fixed. it worked
[22:28] <superm1> kost_, you missed my comment yesterday. i wrote a patch for safe graphics mode
[22:28] <superm1> would you be able to test it on tonight's daily to verify it works?
[22:28] <superm1> that or today's ubuntu daily contains it too (but not the mythbuntu daily)
[22:29] <kost_> superm1: i found someone also reported my exact issue at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/425372
[22:30] <kost_> but sure ill test it. im pretty new to this stuff, how do i download the daily build?
[22:30] <superm1> kost_, cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live has the ubuntu dailies
[22:30] <superm1> cdimages.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/daily-live has the mythbuntu ones
[22:31] <superm1> just to test safe graphics mode, grab the ubuntu one, and hit F4 at the menu and pick safe graphics
[22:31] <superm1> if that works, it will be working on the dailies for mythbuntu starting tomorrow
[22:31] <kost_> ok sure, ill test it tonight when i get home :)
[22:31] <superm1> afterward we can try to investigate why your card isn't working OOTB
[22:31] <superm1> cool thanks
[22:31] <kost_> do you want me to test mythbuntu daily build, the regular ubuntu, or both?
[22:34] <superm1> ubuntu build from today is fine
[22:34] <superm1> the code is the same for this particular functionality
[22:34] <superm1> the mythbuntu build isn't done until 1:06am central time
[22:34] <kost_> ok
[22:35] <kost_> grr a setting moved in mythtv .22. im looking where the method to display video went. i want to set it to use xvmc so i dont have choppy video playback. any idea where that moved to?
[22:35] <superm1> there's a profiles section
[22:35] <superm1> you set the profile based on resolution
[22:35] <superm1> playback settings still
[22:37] <kost_> oh its probably in the setup, not in the frontend settings. doh
[22:39] <superm1> its in the frontend
[22:39] <superm1> under TV settings, there is a playback option i thought
[22:41] <kost_> yeah it looks like there is... i have options like cpu+, cpu++, etc. ill have to read up on them. i dont see xvmc
[22:43] <kost_> i had everything setup nice on mythbuntu 8.04, then i upgraded and forgot where everything was :P
[22:44] <kost_> superm1: do i want 20091009.1 or 20091009 to test your patch
[22:46] <superm1> kost_, 20091009.1
[22:46] <superm1> you dont need to do an install, just boot it with safe graphics mode, and that's it
[22:46] <kost_> sure thing. ill test it out
[22:46] <superm1> thx
[22:49] <kost_> aha! no wonder i didnt see xvmc, instead the profiles have been renamed to things like cpu--. :)
[22:53] <superm1> you should use vdpau though for your hardwaer
[22:53] <superm1> you had an ion didn't you?
[22:54] <kost_> nope its a geforce 7050pv/630i combo motherboard
[22:54] <kost_> i dont see how to setup vdpau, ill have to read more.
[23:04] <superm1> oh the geforce 7 series don't support VPDAU
[23:04] <superm1>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU
[23:07] <kost_> think its worth upgrading for?
[23:08] <kost_> I can go buy one if it makes a noticeable difference :)
[23:08] <superm1> yes it will
[23:10] <mersault> superm1, you around?
[23:10] <superm1> maybe
[23:11] <mersault> I have some issues with the beta
[23:12] <mersault> by default, the backend startup and shutdown commands don't work. I had to change them mythtv-setup, and modify sudoers.
[23:12] <superm1> how are those supposed to work?
[23:12] <superm1> what are they actually used for?
[23:13] <mersault> when running mythtv-setup, when it asks you if it can shutdown the backend...
[23:13] <mersault> and when it tries to start it up again
[23:13] <mersault> there may be other instances, but those are the big ones.
[23:13] <mersault> if mythtv-setup can't start mythbackend correctly when you exit it, it can hang as well
[23:14] <mersault> or at least it did once for me while I played around with those settings
[23:14] <superm1> if that's it, then changing it to gksudo service mythtv-backend stop would fix it
[23:14] <superm1> our wrapper script does all that for you though i thoguth
[23:14] <mersault> that would work. I did it with regular sudo and the init scripts, though I guess that's not the prefered way now, right?
[23:15] <superm1> well if this is ONLY used for that purpose, gksudo makes fine sense
[23:15] <superm1> i thought it was something with remote backends or something
[23:15] <mersault> other issue with setting up my HDHR, I setup the two tuners (not by IP, but by MAC), and when I load up mythweb, I see three encoders listed
[23:16] <superm1> please file a bug so that we can track this and investigate it
[23:16] <mersault> very odd
[23:16] <superm1> that's normal
[23:16] <superm1> HDHR supports multirec
[23:16] <mersault> ah, okay
[23:16] <mersault> I've never encountered that. what's multirec?
[23:17] <superm1> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Record_multiple_channels_from_one_multiplex
[23:17] <superm1> support was added for HDHR in 0.22
[23:18] <mersault> oh, neato.
[23:18] <mersault> also, I think mythfilldatabase is segfaulting on me
[23:19] <mersault> wait, not anymore
[23:19] <mersault> It did, but lets just chalk that up to silliness during setup
[23:22] <superm1> i've been seeing that too,  but we can't get a good backtrace about it
[23:26] <mersault> any idea how the HDHR deal with two devices trying to utilize it?
[23:32] <mersault> also, I can't login to the mythbuntu xsession on my backend. I don't know if it's because it's running in a VNC terminal or not
[23:32] <mersault> but it shouldn't know the difference. It should just think it's a frame buffer
[23:38] <superm1> no idea on the HDHR
[23:38] <superm1> what you mean a VNC terminal?
[23:38] <superm1> vnc is configured to start after you log in
[23:38] <superm1> eg it doesn't start at gdm
[23:39] <mersault> well... when you run a guest in HVM mode in Xen, the terminal is plugged into a VNC server
[23:39] <mersault> at least, if you enable it when you launch the guest.
[23:41] <mersault> hmm... my MCE remote isn't working out of the box either
[23:46] <mersault> ah, thats my setup at fault. I have two IR receivers (the MCE one, and the Soundgraph one in my Antec Fusion case).
[23:53] <mersault> hmmm... so, now that I've defined a Videos storage group, how do I get them to my frontend?
[23:53] <superm1> they're there by default
[23:54] <mersault> no files found
[23:55] <superm1> scan for changes
[23:55] <superm1> leave the menu
[23:55] <superm1> count to 5
[23:55] <superm1> go back in
[23:55] <superm1> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_.22_Transition_Guide
[23:56] <mersault> aha, I'm used to the video manager scanning right away