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wizardslowikcan someone point me to apache howto site00:00
Hypnozruben23: look in /etc/network/interfaces and see if they're both listed in there. also check lspci00:06
ruben23Hypnoz: i can see them both on the lspci00:07
ruben23on the interfaces i cant see them, ill configure the missing ethernet card..?00:07
Hypnozhow many interfaces are listed in the file /etc/network/interfaces00:08
Hypnozlo, eth0... any more?00:08
Hypnozactually interfaces might only show lo huh00:09
Hypnozdo you see 2 adapters listed in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules00:10
wizardslowikhow to transfer my web site from pc to server using command line?00:13
wizardslowik!scp00:16
ubottuSCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/00:16
bventurawizard you can use FTP to do that transfer as well00:16
wizardslowikhow?00:16
wizardslowikright now i am on putty00:17
bventuraftp username@server00:17
wizardslowikok lets say i want to transfer index.html from laptop to server00:18
wizardslowikhow would command look00:18
bventuraone sec wiz00:18
wizardslowikthx00:18
bventuraok so, to move around you want to use cd (change directory) so you would log on, then lcd (local change directory) to where the file is on your PC, then once you've LCD to the right place, you want to cd to the location where you want to put the file on the server.  Then use put [filename]00:20
bventuraso first, cd [path to the file on your pc]00:21
bventuratoops00:21
bventuraso first, lcd [path to the file on your pc]00:21
bventurathen so first, cd [path to the destination on your server]00:21
bventurathen put index.html00:21
bventuraand all of those steps are after you've already est. connection with ftp un@servername00:22
wizardslowikwai twait00:22
wizardslowikwhere should i write it? in putty or cmd00:22
bventurai think in putty but i'm a mac guy not too good with windows.. putty is a unix terminal emulator for windows right?00:23
wizardslowiki use putty to communicate with ubuntu server00:23
bventurathen yes, in putty00:24
wizardslowikok so first lcd d:\folder\index?00:24
bventurai'm not sure if the d: is right00:25
bventuracan you type 'pwd' and tell me what it answers?00:25
bventuraor rather, lpwd00:25
wizardslowik/home/username00:25
bventurawhat about lpwd?00:26
wizardslowiksyntax error00:27
bventuraright00:27
bventuranot all ftp support lpwd i guess00:27
bventuratry it the way you first wrote, "lcd d:\folder\index"00:27
StrangeCharm_where should i go to find out how to set up a dns record for my domain?00:28
bventurabut if that doesn't work try "lcd /folder/index"00:28
wizardslowiklcd command not found00:28
bventuraalso wiz this guide is a good one for apache start you asked that above: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html00:28
wizardslowikwell i already configured apache00:28
wizardslowiki just need web site to be there lol00:29
bventuraoh ok brb00:29
wizardslowikand then name servers heh00:29
bventuraok well not all ftp support the l- commands, so try it with absolute paths I guess, like this:00:30
bventuraput /path/to/your/file/local /path/to/your/file/remote00:30
Administrator_ok back00:32
Hypnozthat is not easier than rsync or scp00:32
Administrator_so what should i use?00:33
bventurayeah i've not that familiar with those two progs they may be easier00:33
bventurapersonally i like to use samba and just connect with my mac thru vpn ;) then i can use the finder to just move things around00:33
Hypnozftp is good if you have a gui, for command line where you have ssh access, scp -r or rsync -a00:33
Administrator_can i actually use scp in putty00:35
Hypnozis the remote system on your network?00:35
Administrator_its on my LAN00:36
Administrator_i am on laptop with xp00:36
Hypnozthere is apps that let you transfer files over port 22 (ssh connection) like you would with FTP00:37
Administrator_that would ease my pain , what its called?00:37
HypnozI haven't tried this one, but http://winscp.net/eng/index.php00:38
Hypnozlooks promising00:38
Hypnozit basically just uses port 22 and your ssh login info to transfer files00:39
Hypnozsometimes called SFTP00:39
Hypnozcause it mimics FTP functionality over ssh00:39
Administrator_lets see00:40
Administrator_i am getting error00:43
Administrator_scp:/home/folder/index.html Permission denied00:44
Administrator_i am trying to copy it to /home/username/website00:45
Administrator_i login with username00:45
Administrator_maybe i should with root00:45
Hypnozyou have /home/username/website on an XP machine?00:46
Administrator_no00:46
Hypnozoh you're trying to copy from your xp to linux00:46
Administrator_on xp its on d:\00:47
Hypnozok, ya the account you're logging in as doesn't have write permission to that folder00:47
Hypnozcan go to /home/username and "ls -l website" and it will show you the owner and permissions00:48
Administrator_ok i did login with root and it works lol00:48
Hypnozya course00:48
Hypnozjust make sure that is ok that root owns the file00:48
Hypnozinstead of "username"00:48
Administrator_root owns the folder00:49
Administrator_should user own folder?00:49
Hypnozya probably00:49
Hypnozif its in the user's home dir00:49
Administrator_oooo00:50
Administrator_i used sudo with mkdir00:50
Hypnozyep there ya go00:50
Hypnozin /home/username, run "chown username:username -R website"00:50
Administrator_ohh thx00:50
Administrator_onemore think00:50
Hypnozthat will recursively change user:group ownership to website and subfolders + files00:50
Administrator_ok i tried00:51
Administrator_it shows that i cannot change files which are in "Website" folder00:52
Hypnozcd /home/username && sudo chown -R username:username website/00:52
Hypnozforgot the sudo00:52
Hypnozcan't change permissions of root owned folder without sudo00:52
Administrator_ok now its esername as owner00:53
Administrator_thx00:53
Administrator_one more think00:53
Hypnozso now when you WinSCP log in as username instead of root00:53
Administrator_i am using moniker as my domain controller , and i am trying to use my ip as zone record00:54
Administrator_i got type A,host -ubuntuserver,adress xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx00:54
Administrator_shouldnt i use CNAME as record type?00:54
ekimmargniCan someone help me understand what the groups I'm in are? I understand the first & last, but not the rest... mikelifeguard@binnie:~$ groups --> mikelifeguard adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin sambashare admin00:55
Administrator_i got static ip and port 80 open00:55
HypnozHost (A) is for names that point to IP's,00:56
SlimuGood evening00:57
Administrator_well yea i want to when someone type website.com to point to my server00:57
Hypnozcdrom is self explanatory, plugdev probably means plug and play devices, lpadmin is printer admin, sambashare is something to do with samba00:57
Hypnoznot sure about adm00:58
ekimmargnisamba is sharing filesystems with windows, isn't it?00:58
Hypnozyeah00:58
Administrator_yes00:58
SlimuIm having trouble posting to ubuntuforums.org..... firefox just says "connecting to ubuntuforums.org...." and never allows my post to go up. Am i alone?00:58
SlimuI urgently need to post an Apache related question up00:59
ekimmargniso can I safely remove the group if I don't need it? (I bet there's software installed for that I don't need too...)00:59
ekimmargniHypnoz: is there a way to see a description for a group?00:59
* ekimmargni re-reads man groups01:00
Hypnozhmm .. i know the info is held in /etc/group, but i'm not sure if there is descriptions01:00
Hypnozmight have to google it?01:01
Administrator_hypnoz01:01
Administrator_i remember there was command that you can check nameservers of web site01:01
ekimmargnidig?01:02
Hypnozdig01:02
Administrator_ooo ok i got it01:02
Hypnozfor searching for commands, try apropos <searchword>01:02
Administrator_ok still hypnoz01:03
Administrator_so type A zone record is enough?01:03
Administrator_host is my servers name right?01:03
ekimmargniapparently adm and admin are for using sudo... but the language used is ambiguous - it reads as though they're redundant :\01:03
ekimmargniaha! adm is for reading /var/log while admin is for real sudo access01:04
Hypnozyeah should be good, A records mean "host" points to "IP"01:04
Hypnozgood find ekimm01:04
ekimmargnihttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-July/028556.html01:05
Administrator_host is my server name ,right?01:06
Administrator_hypnoz try digg wizzy.us01:06
Administrator_it should point me to my ip01:07
Administrator_but it doesnt01:07
Hypnozhttp://pastebin.com/m427f84f301:07
Hypnozhow long ago did you set up the record?01:08
Administrator_15 mins ago01:08
Hypnozinternet DNS isn't instant01:08
Administrator_i know01:08
Hypnozthat info has to propagate through the whole internet. changes take even longer01:08
Administrator_ok ome moer question01:09
Hypnozdnsadmin.moniker.com01:09
Hypnozis that where it should be going?01:09
Administrator_well my domain is registered with moniker01:10
Hypnozah. so that part is right, then moniker.com has to forward to your system01:10
Administrator_ok so i should give it more time01:10
Hypnozif you set up the right info in their site, maybe just give it a while01:11
Hypnozpatience is a virtue grasshopper01:11
Administrator_heheh tell me about it , i am carp fishermen01:11
Hypnozanytime someone tells me they're a fisherman i picture them on a boat like deadliest catch on discovery channel01:12
Hypnozfreezing water in the middle of the night01:12
Administrator_heheh no no01:12
Hypnozpulling up baskets of fish01:12
Administrator_i am shore guy01:12
Administrator_heheh01:12
Administrator_in carp fishing you gotta wait sometimes even 48 hrs01:13
Administrator_do i need phpmyadmin?01:13
Hypnozcows move slower, become a cow fisherman you wouldn't have to work nearly as hard01:13
Hypnozeveryone needs phpmyadmin because it is amazing01:13
Hypnozunless you enjoy managing your mysql tables from the command line01:14
Hypnozthen more power to you01:14
Administrator_lol01:14
Administrator_nah01:14
JanCssh port forwarding + GUI tools works too  :P01:14
Hypnozgui tools are old and broken, webui is the new hotness01:15
Administrator_webui?01:15
JanCweb user interface01:15
Administrator_thx01:16
Administrator_i am newbie01:16
Hypnozeveryone's gotta be a newbie at some point01:17
JanCeverybody was a newbie once, it's curable  ツ01:17
Hypnozbeing a newbie at linux is particularly painful however01:17
Administrator_lo not that newbie lol01:17
Administrator_but i love it01:17
Administrator_ok so i got phpmyadmin01:18
Administrator_when itry to sign in with username it doesnt work01:18
Administrator_only with root01:18
Hypnozneed to create new users that you can sign in as then01:19
JanCit's the mysql username, not the system username01:20
Hypnozcan do it through phpmyadmin01:20
SlimuWhats the correct 'voodoo' for allowing mod_python to write to a file in the WWW directory? been trying for ages today but its a fail01:23
JanCSlimu: user permissions...01:24
SlimuAH!01:24
Slimuthanks - thats a chown curse eh?01:24
Hypnozls -ld /var/www01:25
Administrator_hypnoz try dig wizzy.us01:25
Hypnozwhat is the user group?01:25
Hypnozits different from two different networks I run it from01:26
SlimuHypnoz: me? www-data01:26
Hypnozit seems like it hasn't finished propgating01:26
Hypnozthat seems right01:27
Hypnozwas wondering if it was owned by root01:27
tarvidvaguely remember a reverse dns generator but I can't find one for jaunty01:28
Hypnozcould probably find a website that can do it01:29
SlimuI keep getting a newthread.php saveas dialog box from ubuntuforums - i guess they're working on it01:30
tarvidis there a successor to mkrdns?01:32
Administrator_how do i find host name? whats the command01:42
ekimmargnihost name of what?01:43
Administrator_of server01:43
ekimmargniof which server?01:43
Administrator_my01:43
ekimmargnihostname01:44
Administrator_sorry i ment hostname01:44
ekimmargnihostname will give you your server's hostname01:44
Administrator_ok so i updated zone record in moniker and my site still doesnt work01:45
ekimmargniAdministrator_: http://p.defau.lt/?UpMIXlQ0SuQRyqZb3p6r_A01:45
wizardslowak??01:47
ekimmargniI was showing you what the command does01:47
wizardslowakoo ok01:47
ekimmargniWhat is the domain name?01:48
wizardslowakso as type in zone records is A enought or should i choose different host01:48
wizardslowakwizzy.us01:48
* ekimmargni shrugdances01:49
ekimmargniI dunno much about DNS01:49
wizardslowakthx01:51
wizardslowakdamn01:54
wizardslowakin host i should put www01:54
wizardslowaknot my hostname01:54
wizardslowakbtw01:54
wizardslowakhow can i set up email server for my website01:54
tarvidtasksel02:02
wizardslowakok got it heh02:10
wizardslowaknow i need someone to help me to set up email02:11
wizardslowakok at least tell me how to set up apache for 2 domains02:13
S0me1wizardslowak:  do you mean smtp server or web mail?02:25
wizardslowaksmtp02:25
wizardslowakso i can have email@mysite.com02:25
JanCwizardslowak: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html02:29
S0me1try Proftpd or vsftpd02:29
JanCbut I suggest you try that in virtual machines first before you put anything on the internet02:29
wizardslowaki tried some time ago postfix and i had lots of problems with it02:30
JanCyou don't want your server abused by spammers if you misconfigure something02:30
S0me1wizardslowak: in ubuntu you will find nice tools for smtp setting02:37
wizardslowakyea i gotta check it up02:37
uvirtbotNew bug: #425122 in postfix (main) "Configuration on installation should pop up in a dialog, rather than staying in terminal" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42512203:46
lamontheh... please configure debconf to do that.  I think I might just reassign that one somewhere...03:46
ScottKlamont: Layer 803:50
lamontor even 1203:51
ScottKDoes it go to 12?03:52
lamontwell, I've always been fuzzy on 9+, but there's _gotta_ be something beyond "politics"03:53
twbI guess we aren't talking OSI model here?04:01
ScottKYes, we are, just OSI was incomplete.04:02
cancuengthello, everyone04:22
cancuengtI'm writing from guatemala requesting help for a problem with a network card04:23
cancuengtif anyone i'll be thanked04:23
twbWhat is there above the application layer?04:32
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ScottKtwb: lusers.04:50
twb8 through 12 layers are the "luser layer"?04:51
twbOh, I see, you're all being flippant.04:51
twbe.g. "Layer 8: dealing with the bloody change management system"04:52
ScottKThe language is flippant, but blaming the user for being an idiot is deadly serious in the case of that bug.04:54
twbNo doubt.  I was confused before, because I thought you were talking about some kind of *serious* extension to OSI.04:57
AnirbanHazrawhat is the TTL format in bind dns records ?06:37
uvirtbotNew bug: #446858 in eucalyptus "If a cluster is deregistered before a SC, the cloud controller will continue contacting the SC" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44685806:56
lirkHi guys, I was thinking if using jeos is better than full ubuntu server for www backend server ?07:12
ttxkirkland: howdy07:14
* ttx looks at the branch07:14
ttxSo its an upstream merge to 91907:15
kirklandttx: yeah, just multi-cluster fixes07:15
ttxok, how did your testing go ?07:15
kirklandttx: we tried to get euca_rootwrap in there; still not ready07:15
kirklandttx: dan will work on it tomorrow07:15
kirklandttx: testing went well07:15
kirklandttx: i didn't open any new ones :-)07:15
ttxi'll work on confirming the fix for the DB deadlock one, then we'll just have to find the best way to specify it in upstart.07:16
ttxkirkland: ok, go to bed, then :)07:18
kirklandttx: ;-) almost07:18
kirklandttx: i'm responding to several days worth of email backlog07:18
kirklandttx: okay, now i'm calling it a night07:21
ttxgdnite07:21
lirkAlso free -m for jeos shown a 222 MB usage and for a normal 8.04.3 server shows only 70 MB07:23
qman__none of my servers are using less than 200MB, but it all has to do with what software is running07:27
twbAm I the only one that thinks "jeos" is nearly as awful a name as "gnewsense"?07:28
qman__jeos is designed for a single purpose, to remove components that would be unnecessary in a virtual environment07:28
qman__the packages you install on top will be identical07:28
lirkI only need a really fast http backend server - webfarm, and I was thinking to strip jeos a little further, what do you guys think ?07:33
qman__I think you should only use it if you're in a virtual environment07:36
qman__if you need more optimization than the standard ubuntu server, then you should be compiling your own kernel and such anyway07:37
qman__ubuntu server isn't exactly a heavyweight07:37
lirkok, thank you07:37
lirkno, itś not, but for a backend http server there is no need for sound, floppy and netfilter in my opinion07:38
lirkand probably other modules07:38
lirkDon get me wrong, I like ubuntu server the way it is, I am running into production with 3 8.04 servers07:39
qman__I'm of the opinion that unless that minute increase in performance is absolutely necessary, it's not worth the hassle07:40
qman__I'd rather stick to a common platform07:41
qman__makes troubleshooting a lot easier07:41
lirkyou are right here07:41
lirkqman__, is there a way to specify at boot what kernel modules should be loaded07:43
qman__you can prevent modules from being loaded by blacklisting in /etc/modprobe.d07:43
lirkIt seems good07:46
lirkI also read about some modules.conf in other distributions07:46
BilgeCan I install the newest version of ufw on 8.04 LTS?08:47
kaushalhi09:23
kaushalis there a way to know what type of Hardware RAID has been configured?09:23
kaushalon the running ubuntu 8.04 server09:24
_rubenkaushal: depends on the hardware raid controller09:27
kaushal01:00.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS1068E PCI-Express Fusion-MPT SAS (rev 08)09:31
_rubenif it doesnt show in the boot messages, then you'll have to see if there's any linux management tools for suchs cards09:36
everdoes it make sense to put a virtual machine (kvm) directly on a lvm volume of the host system? so that each vm gets its own volume and there is no filesystem on the host involved ?09:37
_rubeni'd say it does09:38
sorenever: That's a common setup.09:38
qman__ever, that's a sensible setup, since it eliminates the overhead of running a filesystem in a file on a filesystem10:06
everok, that's what i thought.. but vmbuilder does not support this right away?10:14
sorenever: There seems to be some issues along those lines, yes.10:16
_rubenhmm .. embperl seemed nice at first, but turns out a bit limited rather quickly .. or im just not finding the proper resources :p10:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #447099 in openldap (main) "No password set on install of slapd-2.4.18-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44709911:17
azlonwhen i try to add a new drive to my raid using mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sdg1 i get: mdadm: /dev/sdg1 not large enough to join array12:20
azlonany ideas?12:20
_rubenwell .. /dev/sdg1 is not large enough to join the array obviously12:26
azlon_ruben, but my fdisk -l says otherwise: http://pastebin.com/d2b272f5c12:26
azlonit says they are the exact same size12:28
uvirtbotNew bug: #427539 in maven2 (main) "[FFe] Sync libmaven packages from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42753912:37
azlonany ideas on the raid issue?12:46
_rubenhmm .. dunno then12:49
J_Phi all13:15
J_PHow I disable sound (beed) when I use TAB key on keyboard?13:16
uvirtbotNew bug: #372770 in vsftpd (main) "Add /usr/sbin/nologin to /etc/shells" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37277013:22
zulttx: is there an upstream bug tracker for likewise-open?13:30
ttxyes13:31
ttxzul: http://lobugs.likewise.com/13:31
ttxzul: not sure how much they use it nowadays though13:31
zulwell it looks like this bug had been reported already upstream anyways13:34
uvirtbotNew bug: #434649 in likewise-open (main) "likewise-open doesn’t work with kinit" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43464913:44
uvirtbotNew bug: #419065 in likewise-open (main) "Likewise-open fails to authenticate users with non-English passwords" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41906513:46
uvirtbotNew bug: #447182 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.3.2-1ubuntu3.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44718213:46
uvirtbotNew bug: #324193 in libpam-ldap (universe) "libpam-ldap won't set non-crypt passwords" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32419313:47
uvirtbotNew bug: #296920 in openssh (main) "ssh : ClientAliveInterval ClientAliveCountMax combination not working properly" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29692014:08
ttxsmoser: should bug 444598 now be FixCommitted/FixReleased ?14:25
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 444598 in vm-builder "UEC images could be simpler to download and bundle" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44459814:25
smoseri think so. yes.14:26
ttxsmoser: ok, please update :)14:26
zulttx: for m2crypto there is a new version that im gong to upload to my ppa, if everything is kosher with the testsuite ill get a ffe for it15:05
ttxzul: hmmkay15:17
zulttx: ping15:53
ttxzul: pong15:53
zuli saw this the other day http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/dhcp/F-12/dhcp-4.1.0-inherit-leases.patch?revision=1.1&view=markup15:53
zulbasically it allows users to keep their old ip address when using dhcp, i think that this might really help us15:53
ttxzul: how would it help us ? close bugs ?15:54
zulwell if users have a low lease time samba restarts everytime the dhcp restarts, i have a workaround for that but the patch will help like ssh, mysql, etc15:55
ttxhmm15:55
zulif you think its too risky now then I can file it away for luckid15:56
zullucid even15:56
ttxwell, it's very late for that kind of change that might have some strange unforeseen sideeffects15:56
zulok ill file it away and introduce it in lucid15:56
uvirtbotNew bug: #447268 in gwt (main) "FTBFS: compile errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44726816:02
uvirtbotNew bug: #447272 in jetty6 (main) "FTBFS: compile errors" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44727216:02
zulttx: ill upload my samba workaround then16:06
superbeefI need to completely force all the config scrips to rerun for mysql.... i've tried dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server, but nothing works...16:18
mathiazttx: ran into bug 446841 yesterday16:27
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 446841 in image-store-proxy "Unable to start images installed/registered via the image store" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44684116:27
ttxmathiaz: just I read that16:28
mathiazttx: wanted to make sure it's on the release team radar -16:28
ttxit is16:28
mathiazttx: seems important to me for release16:28
ttxappears on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus16:28
mathiazttx: I won't be online on Monday16:28
mathiazttx: so I won't have so much time to track this down (except for today)16:29
ttxmathiaz: how were those registered ?16:29
ttxmathiaz: by the proxy magic itself ?16:29
mathiazttx: via the image-store-proxy16:29
ttxmathiaz: did you ping gustavo about the bug already ?16:30
mathiazttx: yes16:30
mathiazttx: he's never seen the error16:30
mathiazttx: so next step is to get the upstream guyz have a look at it16:30
ttxthe error seems pretty clear in that case. That's rare enough16:30
mathiazttx: which is why I opened a task for the eucalyptus package16:31
ttxwell, I have a couple issues I need them to look at as well16:31
mathiazttx: rare - well it happens every time when the proxy registers something16:31
mathiazttx: right - I'll look into that today16:31
mathiazttx: but them I won't be back till Tuesday16:31
ttxmathiaz: I meant "it's rare that the error message is so clear"16:32
mathiazttx: ah ok16:32
ttxmathiaz: any idea if nurmi will join us today ? Is he travelling or already back ?16:32
mathiazttx: he should be back today16:33
mathiazttx: it's just a few hours of travel for him16:33
ttxmathiaz: because the "start after network is up" track was a dead end, in the DB deadlock issue16:34
mathiazttx: the DB still deadlocks?16:34
ttxmathiaz: every single time16:35
mathiazttx: I've checked my setup - turns out the CC is using dhcp, with a statically assigned IP address though16:35
mathiazttx: ok - I'll try to reboot my CC a couple of times16:35
ttxdhcp/static doesn't come into play here16:35
mathiazttx: I haven't noticed that yet - I'll look closer16:35
ttxI even disabled start-at-boot to start it manually a couple minutes after everything is up16:35
ttxit still triggers the issue16:35
mathiazttx: how important is this?16:37
mathiazttx: it doesn't crash the service - it just takes more time getting ready16:37
ttxit just makes the 2-5 first commands fail16:37
ttxmathiaz: so "medium"16:37
mathiazttx: ok - so if you wait like 5 minutes before the first command16:38
mathiazttx: the first command will actually succeed16:38
ttxmathiaz: no.16:38
ttxI waited 8 minutes before first command and still triggered it16:38
ttxeucalyptus will do a hard reset on db connections after 5 tries16:38
mathiazttx: it's the first command that will actually trigger the process to start the db and lead the hard reset?16:39
ttxbut it will by itself do some of those tries16:39
ttxthe first command will do one of the 5 tries16:39
mathiazttx: gotcha16:40
ttxeuca explicitely waits for 5 failures before deciding to hardreset. grep "Reset" on cloud-output16:40
ttxor "DEADLOCK".16:40
ttxthe test is : reboot, "euca-describe-availbility-zones verbose"16:41
ttxmathiaz: if you get some issues there, grep for Reset / DEAZDLOCK in cloud-output16:41
mathiazttx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/289362/16:41
mathiazttx: let me reboot the cc16:42
ttxmathiaz, zul: did you spend some time on the regression/rc bug hunt yet ?16:42
mathiazttx: nope16:42
zulmathiaz: yeah just that cifs bug so far16:42
mathiazttx: I've got a script that creates a list of Confirmed/Triagged bugs16:42
ttxzul: that's a kernel issue16:43
mathiazttx: my plan was to go throught that list and find regression16:43
mathiazttx: whith zul helping in getting the New,Incomplete bugs16:43
mathiazttx: if we could get an importance set on every bug, that would help in filtering as well16:43
zulttx: 420639 398733 41435916:44
ttxbug 42063916:44
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 420639 in php5 "php-pear package problems (Karmic)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42063916:44
ttxbug 39873316:44
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 398733 in dovecot "Dovecot Plain auth broken in 1.1.1, fixed in 1.2.1" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39873316:44
ttxbug 41435916:44
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 414359 in dovecot "Dovecot-imapd, PAM auth., krb auth with non-krb user causes crash" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41435916:44
zulthe dovecot ones are on my radar to fix today16:44
zulttx: 5.2.10 was shipped with a broken pear, there is a known work around and apparently its fixed in 5.2.11 but I havent tested it yet16:45
zulbut 5.2.11 has its own problems i think as well16:45
mathiazttx: CC rebooted - first command was successful16:46
ttxgrep Reset / DEADLOCK ?16:46
ttxmathiaz: is it a CC or a Cloud+Cc+Walrus+SC ?16:47
ttxzul: those should be nominated for karmic16:47
mathiazttx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/289365/16:47
zulttx: okies16:47
geniiNo kerberos with imap would suck16:47
mathiazttx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/289366/16:48
zulttx: for lucid i want to package pear seperately from php16:48
ttxas all the ones you find that are RC or regressins16:48
mathiazttx: ^^ this is the result of grep -i reset in cloud-output16:48
ttxhmmm16:48
zulttx: the 0.20.2 m2crypto suffer the same fate16:49
ttxmathiaz: could you do stop/clear logs/start/test and see if you get that reset things in that case16:49
ttxlooks like in your case the soft reset is sufficient16:50
ttxmathiaz, kirkland: about bug 444352, if both of you could do the test at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/444352/comments/1317:02
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 444352 in eucalyptus "DB deadlock on reboot prevents UEC from working, temporarily" [Medium,Triaged]17:02
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 444352 in eucalyptus "DB deadlock on reboot prevents UEC from working, temporarily" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44435217:02
kirklandttx: okay17:02
ttxIf you don't hit it, we can downgrade prio17:02
uvirtbotNew bug: #445595 in samba (main) "smbclient fails with SMBecho failed. Maybe server has closed the connection" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44559517:02
aubre_smoser: last night you posted a couple of links to allow one to resize UEC images - is there a way to get these scripts linked from the http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic web page? or at least post shrink instructions that ttx posted in this blog entry here http://fnords.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/run-your-own-uec-part-2/ displayed on the image page?17:03
smoseraubre_, yeah... we're looking for a way to distribute those / that script (which i've been fixing/working on under bug 439868)17:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 439868 in vm-builder "UEC images could be smaller" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43986817:04
aubre_smoser: great, I really like the idea od the uec-images being small and then being able to expand them to whatever size you want, and I'm sure it would be nice for the EC2 images as well.17:05
smoserwell, the ec2 are different.. theres basically zero cost for 10G image above a 2G image17:05
smoserso theres no value in < 10G17:06
smoseri think we should probably put a bzr branch somewhere ...17:06
smoseri think probably ubuntu-on-ec2 is "good enough"17:07
aubre_ood point17:07
aubre_good even17:08
aubre_is there much benefit in running a 32-bit UEC image? sorry if the question seems silly17:12
zulttx: #44736017:12
aubre_I can only think if you were running some proprietary software that wouldn't run on 64-bit17:13
mathiazttx: I was able to reproduce your deadlock17:15
mathiazttx: euca-describe-availability-zones verbose returns a 403 Forbidden error17:16
ttxha - ha. Any reason why it wouldn't trigger the first time ?17:16
ttxbecause I reproduce it reliably here17:16
ttxmathiaz: run it 3-5 times, it should start to work17:17
mathiazttx: log files being deleted?17:17
mathiazttx: this is the only change I made before rebooting17:17
mathiazttx: the 4th time succeeded17:17
aubre_ttx:mathiaz: sometimes when I ring my system up the very first time i check it I get the 403 error but then after it is up a little longer it goes away and i get the expected output17:18
mathiazaubre_: right - probably bug 44435217:20
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 444352 in eucalyptus "DB deadlock on reboot prevents UEC from working, temporarily" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44435217:20
ttxi'm on the release meeting, bbl17:20
uvirtbotNew bug: #447360 in samba (main) "FFE for samba 3.4.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44736017:22
uvirtbotNew bug: #447382 in libgoogle-collections-java (main) "[FFe] Sync libgoogle-collections-java 0~20080808-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44738217:31
wizardslovakhello people17:35
dindasommer: Happy Birthday Dude!17:44
sommerdinda: thanks :-)17:45
dindasommer: 21 again?17:46
sommerheeeh, something like that17:46
dindasommer: have a good one dude - see you at UDS17:47
wizardslovakhappy bday17:48
wizardslovakwhat would be easiest and best software for email server ?17:48
wizardslovakpostfix-dovecot?17:48
tarvidwhat is everybody's favorite dns tool box18:54
smoserdnsmasq rocks18:56
smoseraubre, fyi, i put branch up at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-on-ec2/ubuntu-on-ec2/uec-tools/files18:57
smosermight be temporary, but better than the bug18:57
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Doonzany rsync gurus around, need help with getting this set up to work http://pastebin.com/d6532273e19:09
Doonzany rsync gurus around, need help with getting this set up to work http://pastebin.com/d6532273e19:19
addisonj_i have dual displays, how do i make the top and bottom panels span both displays in gnome?19:28
addisonj_oops, wrong channel19:28
Nonpythonany good advice for choosing a IRC server?19:52
Doonzany rsync gurus around, need help with getting this set up to work http://pastebin.com/d6532273e19:52
pmatulisDoonz: simply tell server1 to push the desired directories to the different servers (2,3,4)19:57
Doonzso basically ill have like 10 calls going?19:58
Doonzhttp://pastebin.com/d35a64cef <- updated19:59
pmatulisDoonz: depends where you want the dirs to end up (on the destination)19:59
pmatulisDoonz: if all under one dir then you should be able to push multipple dirs in one command19:59
Doonzok how20:00
pmatulisDoonz: sorry, you need to do some work yourself20:00
Doonzi sorry you should try answering a question20:00
Doonzyour version of an answer consist of telling me to push the whole direct to all servers yet thats not what i asked20:01
Doonzmaybe the channel would be better served if you didnt offer help. besides rtfm20:03
iloweDoonz: I'm sure everybody else in the channel will rush to help you after you blast somebody who tried (no matter how un-helpfully) to help you20:19
iloweDoonz: it is definitely possible to do what you're trying to do; you need to write a script that loops through a list of server->dir mappings and uploads to each mapping properly20:20
iloweDoonz: teaching you how to write that script is beyond the scope of an IRC help channel20:20
iloweDoonz: that is what pmatulis meant when s/he said you need to do some work yourself20:20
Doonzits ok someone else already helped now but no worries20:20
iloweDoonz: Good. Glad to hear that's working for you now.20:21
Doonzno help to this channel20:21
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wizardslovakso anyone is here besides bots?21:22
guntbert!ask | wizardslovak21:23
ubottuwizardslovak: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:23
wizardslovakheheh21:23
wizardslovaki need someone to help me with email server21:23
guntbertwizardslovak: its supposed to work this way: YOU state your complete question and whoever knows an answer will pick it up21:24
wizardslovaklol i know how it works21:25
wizardslovakjust wondered if anyone is free now21:25
erichammondwizardslovak: What's your question?21:27
guntbertwizardslovak: don't ask if "anybody is free", there are no paid support technicians here, state your question please21:27
wizardslovakwhat email software should i use for server? postfix-dovicot? or something else21:27
wizardslovaki remember i tried to do it  some time ago and had problems, so is there any easier way to do it/.'?21:28
JanCpostfix-dovecot will make things easier of course, as it's best documented in the Ubuntu docs...21:28
wizardslovakyou know to have email server which would hold  username@website.com21:29
guntbertwizardslovak: have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html ?21:29
wizardslovakalso some web gui to check email21:29
wizardslovakyes i've seen it and did read it21:30
uvirtbotNew bug: #447538 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "Problem with file  permissions when reinstalling" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44753821:31
wizardslovakis this http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ writeup good ?21:33
wizardslovaklest say i hot website1 on my server with hostname1 , shouldnt hostname be same as website?21:50
wizardslovakor it should be unique?21:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #446313 in php5 (main) "[ffe] security upgrade to php 5.2.11" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44631321:51
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wizardslovakdoes anyone has some experience with virtual box?22:39
wizardslovakhow to set up ubuntu server in virtualbox so that ubuntu has static it22:40
bogeyd6it?22:40
wizardslovakip22:40
bogeyd6is the server installed and running, now you want to assign static ip?22:41
wizardslovaknow22:41
wizardslovakno22:41
unit3What's the right channel to ask about server problems with karmic?22:41
wizardslovaki already modifies /etc/networks22:41
bogeyd6http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html22:41
unit3more specifically, why libpam-ldap no longer... works? ;)22:41
wizardslovakit has static ip22:42
wizardslovakit doesnt connect to internet tho22:42
bogeyd6now do a /etc/init.d/networking restart22:42
wizardslovakhow should i set it up in virtualbox?22:42
bogeyd6#virtualbox22:43
wizardslovakNAT ,bridged adapter or internal adapter22:43
bogeyd6http://samiux.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/bridge-network-interface-on-virtualbox/22:43
bogeyd6try that22:44
bogeyd6your goal is to bridge the interface22:44
bogeyd6i only know how to do in Vmware22:44
wizardslovako22:45
wizardslovakthx22:45
bogeyd6unit3 #ubuntu-bugs22:45
unit3oh, didn't know there was a bugs channel. thanks!22:45
bogeyd6yw22:45
uvirtbotNew bug: #447586 in nut (universe) "megatec_usb does not work anymore with a Trust PW-4130M UPS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44758622:46
wizardslovakvmware is better the vbox?22:46
bogeyd6wizardslovak im my opinion, yes, scores better22:47
wizardslovakreason why i have virtual ubuntu is cause i want to learn how to set up email server22:47
bogeyd6http://cookingandcoding.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/virtualbox-vs-vmware-server-on-linux/22:47
wizardslovakok thats it i am switching to vmware22:48
bogeyd6if you go server 2.0, ill be around another hour and can help22:48
wizardslovakok so i get server and install ubuntu on it22:48
wizardslovaki should make it in hour22:48
bogeyd6kk22:48
wizardslowakso u said vmware server 2 right?22:53
wizardslowak10 mins to download22:54
bogeyd6kkk22:54
bogeyd6heh22:54
bogeyd6that was racist22:54
bogeyd6yeah vmware server 2.022:54
bogeyd6something22:54
wizardslowakok i am getting it22:54
bogeyd6you cant have vbox and vmware at same time on system22:55
wizardslowaki got rid of vbox22:55
bogeyd6k22:55
wizardslowak3 minutes23:00
wizardslowakbtw how is it to set it up?23:00
wizardslowaki mean hard easy?23:00
bogeyd6its easy23:01
bogeyd6and there is a web interface23:01
wizardslowakok 1 min remaining23:01
wizardslowakfor test purposes23:04
wizardslowakdo i have to register domain , if i will use it in LAN only?23:05
bogeyd6no23:06
wizardslowakok good23:07
bogeyd6is it installed?23:07
wizardslowakits installing23:07
bogeyd6kk23:08
bogeyd6im about to have to go down to coffee machine23:08
bogeyd6install it23:08
wizardslowakok i will23:08
bogeyd6and then go to http://127.0.0.1:822223:08
wizardslowakgo get the coffe23:08
wizardslowaki will be here23:08
bogeyd6remember where you told it to store virtual machines, cuz you will need to put the iso in that directory. also, if you have a cd leave it in the drive23:08
wizardslowaki will be using iso23:09
wizardslowikok it askes me for login nam23:20
wizardslowiki gotta restart23:22
wizardslovakok i am back23:27
wizardslovakdamn23:29
wizardslovakwhere is the software/? it has only web access23:29
wizardslovakwhere do i install os?23:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #440817 in eucalyptus "If user deletes volume from disk, the storage controller should report this and fail gracefully" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44081723:37
wizardslovakstill here??23:57

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