[00:00] <wizardslowik> can someone point me to apache howto site
[00:06] <Hypnoz> ruben23: look in /etc/network/interfaces and see if they're both listed in there. also check lspci
[00:07] <ruben23> Hypnoz: i can see them both on the lspci
[00:07] <ruben23> on the interfaces i cant see them, ill configure the missing ethernet card..?
[00:08] <Hypnoz> how many interfaces are listed in the file /etc/network/interfaces
[00:08] <Hypnoz> lo, eth0... any more?
[00:09] <Hypnoz> actually interfaces might only show lo huh
[00:10] <Hypnoz> do you see 2 adapters listed in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[00:13] <wizardslowik> how to transfer my web site from pc to server using command line?
[00:16] <wizardslowik> !scp
[00:16] <bventura> wizard you can use FTP to do that transfer as well
[00:16] <wizardslowik> how?
[00:17] <wizardslowik> right now i am on putty
[00:17] <bventura> ftp username@server
[00:18] <wizardslowik> ok lets say i want to transfer index.html from laptop to server
[00:18] <wizardslowik> how would command look
[00:18] <bventura> one sec wiz
[00:18] <wizardslowik> thx
[00:20] <bventura> ok so, to move around you want to use cd (change directory) so you would log on, then lcd (local change directory) to where the file is on your PC, then once you've LCD to the right place, you want to cd to the location where you want to put the file on the server.  Then use put [filename]
[00:21] <bventura> so first, cd [path to the file on your pc]
[00:21] <bventura> toops
[00:21] <bventura> so first, lcd [path to the file on your pc]
[00:21] <bventura> then so first, cd [path to the destination on your server]
[00:21] <bventura> then put index.html
[00:22] <bventura> and all of those steps are after you've already est. connection with ftp un@servername
[00:22] <wizardslowik> wai twait
[00:22] <wizardslowik> where should i write it? in putty or cmd
[00:23] <bventura> i think in putty but i'm a mac guy not too good with windows.. putty is a unix terminal emulator for windows right?
[00:23] <wizardslowik> i use putty to communicate with ubuntu server
[00:24] <bventura> then yes, in putty
[00:24] <wizardslowik> ok so first lcd d:\folder\index?
[00:25] <bventura> i'm not sure if the d: is right
[00:25] <bventura> can you type 'pwd' and tell me what it answers?
[00:25] <bventura> or rather, lpwd
[00:25] <wizardslowik> /home/username
[00:26] <bventura> what about lpwd?
[00:27] <wizardslowik> syntax error
[00:27] <bventura> right
[00:27] <bventura> not all ftp support lpwd i guess
[00:27] <bventura> try it the way you first wrote, "lcd d:\folder\index"
[00:28] <StrangeCharm_> where should i go to find out how to set up a dns record for my domain?
[00:28] <bventura> but if that doesn't work try "lcd /folder/index"
[00:28] <wizardslowik> lcd command not found
[00:28] <bventura> also wiz this guide is a good one for apache start you asked that above: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[00:28] <wizardslowik> well i already configured apache
[00:29] <wizardslowik> i just need web site to be there lol
[00:29] <bventura> oh ok brb
[00:29] <wizardslowik> and then name servers heh
[00:30] <bventura> ok well not all ftp support the l- commands, so try it with absolute paths I guess, like this:
[00:30] <bventura> put /path/to/your/file/local /path/to/your/file/remote
[00:32] <Administrator_> ok back
[00:32] <Hypnoz> that is not easier than rsync or scp
[00:33] <Administrator_> so what should i use?
[00:33] <bventura> yeah i've not that familiar with those two progs they may be easier
[00:33] <bventura> personally i like to use samba and just connect with my mac thru vpn ;) then i can use the finder to just move things around
[00:33] <Hypnoz> ftp is good if you have a gui, for command line where you have ssh access, scp -r or rsync -a
[00:35] <Administrator_> can i actually use scp in putty
[00:35] <Hypnoz> is the remote system on your network?
[00:36] <Administrator_> its on my LAN
[00:36] <Administrator_> i am on laptop with xp
[00:37] <Hypnoz> there is apps that let you transfer files over port 22 (ssh connection) like you would with FTP
[00:37] <Administrator_> that would ease my pain , what its called?
[00:38] <Hypnoz> I haven't tried this one, but http://winscp.net/eng/index.php
[00:38] <Hypnoz> looks promising
[00:39] <Hypnoz> it basically just uses port 22 and your ssh login info to transfer files
[00:39] <Hypnoz> sometimes called SFTP
[00:39] <Hypnoz> cause it mimics FTP functionality over ssh
[00:40] <Administrator_> lets see
[00:43] <Administrator_> i am getting error
[00:44] <Administrator_> scp:/home/folder/index.html Permission denied
[00:45] <Administrator_> i am trying to copy it to /home/username/website
[00:45] <Administrator_> i login with username
[00:45] <Administrator_> maybe i should with root
[00:46] <Hypnoz> you have /home/username/website on an XP machine?
[00:46] <Administrator_> no
[00:46] <Hypnoz> oh you're trying to copy from your xp to linux
[00:47] <Administrator_> on xp its on d:\
[00:47] <Hypnoz> ok, ya the account you're logging in as doesn't have write permission to that folder
[00:48] <Hypnoz> can go to /home/username and "ls -l website" and it will show you the owner and permissions
[00:48] <Administrator_> ok i did login with root and it works lol
[00:48] <Hypnoz> ya course
[00:48] <Hypnoz> just make sure that is ok that root owns the file
[00:48] <Hypnoz> instead of "username"
[00:49] <Administrator_> root owns the folder
[00:49] <Administrator_> should user own folder?
[00:49] <Hypnoz> ya probably
[00:49] <Hypnoz> if its in the user's home dir
[00:50] <Administrator_> oooo
[00:50] <Administrator_> i used sudo with mkdir
[00:50] <Hypnoz> yep there ya go
[00:50] <Hypnoz> in /home/username, run "chown username:username -R website"
[00:50] <Administrator_> ohh thx
[00:50] <Administrator_> onemore think
[00:50] <Hypnoz> that will recursively change user:group ownership to website and subfolders + files
[00:51] <Administrator_> ok i tried
[00:52] <Administrator_> it shows that i cannot change files which are in "Website" folder
[00:52] <Hypnoz> cd /home/username && sudo chown -R username:username website/
[00:52] <Hypnoz> forgot the sudo
[00:52] <Hypnoz> can't change permissions of root owned folder without sudo
[00:53] <Administrator_> ok now its esername as owner
[00:53] <Administrator_> thx
[00:53] <Administrator_> one more think
[00:53] <Hypnoz> so now when you WinSCP log in as username instead of root
[00:54] <Administrator_> i am using moniker as my domain controller , and i am trying to use my ip as zone record
[00:54] <Administrator_> i got type A,host -ubuntuserver,adress xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[00:54] <Administrator_> shouldnt i use CNAME as record type?
[00:55] <ekimmargni> Can someone help me understand what the groups I'm in are? I understand the first & last, but not the rest... mikelifeguard@binnie:~$ groups --> mikelifeguard adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin sambashare admin
[00:55] <Administrator_> i got static ip and port 80 open
[00:56] <Hypnoz> Host (A) is for names that point to IP's,
[00:57] <Slimu> Good evening
[00:57] <Administrator_> well yea i want to when someone type website.com to point to my server
[00:57] <Hypnoz> cdrom is self explanatory, plugdev probably means plug and play devices, lpadmin is printer admin, sambashare is something to do with samba
[00:58] <Hypnoz> not sure about adm
[00:58] <ekimmargni> samba is sharing filesystems with windows, isn't it?
[00:58] <Hypnoz> yeah
[00:58] <Administrator_> yes
[00:58] <Slimu> Im having trouble posting to ubuntuforums.org..... firefox just says "connecting to ubuntuforums.org...." and never allows my post to go up. Am i alone?
[00:59] <Slimu> I urgently need to post an Apache related question up
[00:59] <ekimmargni> so can I safely remove the group if I don't need it? (I bet there's software installed for that I don't need too...)
[00:59] <ekimmargni> Hypnoz: is there a way to see a description for a group?
[01:00]  * ekimmargni re-reads man groups
[01:00] <Hypnoz> hmm .. i know the info is held in /etc/group, but i'm not sure if there is descriptions
[01:01] <Hypnoz> might have to google it?
[01:01] <Administrator_> hypnoz
[01:01] <Administrator_> i remember there was command that you can check nameservers of web site
[01:02] <ekimmargni> dig?
[01:02] <Hypnoz> dig
[01:02] <Administrator_> ooo ok i got it
[01:02] <Hypnoz> for searching for commands, try apropos <searchword>
[01:03] <Administrator_> ok still hypnoz
[01:03] <Administrator_> so type A zone record is enough?
[01:03] <Administrator_> host is my servers name right?
[01:03] <ekimmargni> apparently adm and admin are for using sudo... but the language used is ambiguous - it reads as though they're redundant :\
[01:04] <ekimmargni> aha! adm is for reading /var/log while admin is for real sudo access
[01:04] <Hypnoz> yeah should be good, A records mean "host" points to "IP"
[01:04] <Hypnoz> good find ekimm
[01:05] <ekimmargni> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-July/028556.html
[01:06] <Administrator_> host is my server name ,right?
[01:06] <Administrator_> hypnoz try digg wizzy.us
[01:07] <Administrator_> it should point me to my ip
[01:07] <Administrator_> but it doesnt
[01:07] <Hypnoz> http://pastebin.com/m427f84f3
[01:08] <Hypnoz> how long ago did you set up the record?
[01:08] <Administrator_> 15 mins ago
[01:08] <Hypnoz> internet DNS isn't instant
[01:08] <Administrator_> i know
[01:08] <Hypnoz> that info has to propagate through the whole internet. changes take even longer
[01:09] <Administrator_> ok ome moer question
[01:09] <Hypnoz> dnsadmin.moniker.com
[01:09] <Hypnoz> is that where it should be going?
[01:10] <Administrator_> well my domain is registered with moniker
[01:10] <Hypnoz> ah. so that part is right, then moniker.com has to forward to your system
[01:10] <Administrator_> ok so i should give it more time
[01:11] <Hypnoz> if you set up the right info in their site, maybe just give it a while
[01:11] <Hypnoz> patience is a virtue grasshopper
[01:11] <Administrator_> heheh tell me about it , i am carp fishermen
[01:12] <Hypnoz> anytime someone tells me they're a fisherman i picture them on a boat like deadliest catch on discovery channel
[01:12] <Hypnoz> freezing water in the middle of the night
[01:12] <Administrator_> heheh no no
[01:12] <Hypnoz> pulling up baskets of fish
[01:12] <Administrator_> i am shore guy
[01:12] <Administrator_> heheh
[01:13] <Administrator_> in carp fishing you gotta wait sometimes even 48 hrs
[01:13] <Administrator_> do i need phpmyadmin?
[01:13] <Hypnoz> cows move slower, become a cow fisherman you wouldn't have to work nearly as hard
[01:13] <Hypnoz> everyone needs phpmyadmin because it is amazing
[01:14] <Hypnoz> unless you enjoy managing your mysql tables from the command line
[01:14] <Hypnoz> then more power to you
[01:14] <Administrator_> lol
[01:14] <Administrator_> nah
[01:14] <JanC> ssh port forwarding + GUI tools works too  :P
[01:15] <Hypnoz> gui tools are old and broken, webui is the new hotness
[01:15] <Administrator_> webui?
[01:15] <JanC> web user interface
[01:16] <Administrator_> thx
[01:16] <Administrator_> i am newbie
[01:17] <Hypnoz> everyone's gotta be a newbie at some point
[01:17] <JanC> everybody was a newbie once, it's curable  ツ
[01:17] <Hypnoz> being a newbie at linux is particularly painful however
[01:17] <Administrator_> lo not that newbie lol
[01:17] <Administrator_> but i love it
[01:18] <Administrator_> ok so i got phpmyadmin
[01:18] <Administrator_> when itry to sign in with username it doesnt work
[01:18] <Administrator_> only with root
[01:19] <Hypnoz> need to create new users that you can sign in as then
[01:20] <JanC> it's the mysql username, not the system username
[01:20] <Hypnoz> can do it through phpmyadmin
[01:23] <Slimu> Whats the correct 'voodoo' for allowing mod_python to write to a file in the WWW directory? been trying for ages today but its a fail
[01:24] <JanC> Slimu: user permissions...
[01:24] <Slimu> AH!
[01:24] <Slimu> thanks - thats a chown curse eh?
[01:25] <Hypnoz> ls -ld /var/www
[01:25] <Administrator_> hypnoz try dig wizzy.us
[01:25] <Hypnoz> what is the user group?
[01:26] <Hypnoz> its different from two different networks I run it from
[01:26] <Slimu> Hypnoz: me? www-data
[01:26] <Hypnoz> it seems like it hasn't finished propgating
[01:27] <Hypnoz> that seems right
[01:27] <Hypnoz> was wondering if it was owned by root
[01:28] <tarvid> vaguely remember a reverse dns generator but I can't find one for jaunty
[01:29] <Hypnoz> could probably find a website that can do it
[01:30] <Slimu> I keep getting a newthread.php saveas dialog box from ubuntuforums - i guess they're working on it
[01:32] <tarvid> is there a successor to mkrdns?
[01:42] <Administrator_> how do i find host name? whats the command
[01:43] <ekimmargni> host name of what?
[01:43] <Administrator_> of server
[01:43] <ekimmargni> of which server?
[01:43] <Administrator_> my
[01:44] <ekimmargni> hostname
[01:44] <Administrator_> sorry i ment hostname
[01:44] <ekimmargni> hostname will give you your server's hostname
[01:45] <Administrator_> ok so i updated zone record in moniker and my site still doesnt work
[01:45] <ekimmargni> Administrator_: http://p.defau.lt/?UpMIXlQ0SuQRyqZb3p6r_A
[01:47] <wizardslowak> ??
[01:47] <ekimmargni> I was showing you what the command does
[01:47] <wizardslowak> oo ok
[01:48] <ekimmargni> What is the domain name?
[01:48] <wizardslowak> so as type in zone records is A enought or should i choose different host
[01:48] <wizardslowak> wizzy.us
[01:49]  * ekimmargni shrugdances
[01:49] <ekimmargni> I dunno much about DNS
[01:51] <wizardslowak> thx
[01:54] <wizardslowak> damn
[01:54] <wizardslowak> in host i should put www
[01:54] <wizardslowak> not my hostname
[01:54] <wizardslowak> btw
[01:54] <wizardslowak> how can i set up email server for my website
[02:02] <tarvid> tasksel
[02:10] <wizardslowak> ok got it heh
[02:11] <wizardslowak> now i need someone to help me to set up email
[02:13] <wizardslowak> ok at least tell me how to set up apache for 2 domains
[02:25] <S0me1> wizardslowak:  do you mean smtp server or web mail?
[02:25] <wizardslowak> smtp
[02:25] <wizardslowak> so i can have email@mysite.com
[02:29] <JanC> wizardslowak: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html
[02:29] <S0me1> try Proftpd or vsftpd
[02:29] <JanC> but I suggest you try that in virtual machines first before you put anything on the internet
[02:30] <wizardslowak> i tried some time ago postfix and i had lots of problems with it
[02:30] <JanC> you don't want your server abused by spammers if you misconfigure something
[02:37] <S0me1> wizardslowak: in ubuntu you will find nice tools for smtp setting
[02:37] <wizardslowak> yea i gotta check it up
[03:46] <lamont> heh... please configure debconf to do that.  I think I might just reassign that one somewhere...
[03:50] <ScottK> lamont: Layer 8
[03:51] <lamont> or even 12
[03:52] <ScottK> Does it go to 12?
[03:53] <lamont> well, I've always been fuzzy on 9+, but there's _gotta_ be something beyond "politics"
[04:01] <twb> I guess we aren't talking OSI model here?
[04:02] <ScottK> Yes, we are, just OSI was incomplete.
[04:22] <cancuengt> hello, everyone
[04:23] <cancuengt> I'm writing from guatemala requesting help for a problem with a network card
[04:23] <cancuengt> if anyone i'll be thanked
[04:32] <twb> What is there above the application layer?
[04:50] <ScottK> twb: lusers.
[04:51] <twb> 8 through 12 layers are the "luser layer"?
[04:51] <twb> Oh, I see, you're all being flippant.
[04:52] <twb> e.g. "Layer 8: dealing with the bloody change management system"
[04:54] <ScottK> The language is flippant, but blaming the user for being an idiot is deadly serious in the case of that bug.
[04:57] <twb> No doubt.  I was confused before, because I thought you were talking about some kind of *serious* extension to OSI.
[06:37] <AnirbanHazra> what is the TTL format in bind dns records ?
[07:12] <lirk> Hi guys, I was thinking if using jeos is better than full ubuntu server for www backend server ?
[07:14] <ttx> kirkland: howdy
[07:14]  * ttx looks at the branch
[07:15] <ttx> So its an upstream merge to 919
[07:15] <kirkland> ttx: yeah, just multi-cluster fixes
[07:15] <ttx> ok, how did your testing go ?
[07:15] <kirkland> ttx: we tried to get euca_rootwrap in there; still not ready
[07:15] <kirkland> ttx: dan will work on it tomorrow
[07:15] <kirkland> ttx: testing went well
[07:15] <kirkland> ttx: i didn't open any new ones :-)
[07:16] <ttx> i'll work on confirming the fix for the DB deadlock one, then we'll just have to find the best way to specify it in upstart.
[07:18] <ttx> kirkland: ok, go to bed, then :)
[07:18] <kirkland> ttx: ;-) almost
[07:18] <kirkland> ttx: i'm responding to several days worth of email backlog
[07:21] <kirkland> ttx: okay, now i'm calling it a night
[07:21] <ttx> gdnite
[07:23] <lirk> Also free -m for jeos shown a 222 MB usage and for a normal 8.04.3 server shows only 70 MB
[07:27] <qman__> none of my servers are using less than 200MB, but it all has to do with what software is running
[07:28] <twb> Am I the only one that thinks "jeos" is nearly as awful a name as "gnewsense"?
[07:28] <qman__> jeos is designed for a single purpose, to remove components that would be unnecessary in a virtual environment
[07:28] <qman__> the packages you install on top will be identical
[07:33] <lirk> I only need a really fast http backend server - webfarm, and I was thinking to strip jeos a little further, what do you guys think ?
[07:36] <qman__> I think you should only use it if you're in a virtual environment
[07:37] <qman__> if you need more optimization than the standard ubuntu server, then you should be compiling your own kernel and such anyway
[07:37] <qman__> ubuntu server isn't exactly a heavyweight
[07:37] <lirk> ok, thank you
[07:38] <lirk> no, itś not, but for a backend http server there is no need for sound, floppy and netfilter in my opinion
[07:38] <lirk> and probably other modules
[07:39] <lirk> Don get me wrong, I like ubuntu server the way it is, I am running into production with 3 8.04 servers
[07:40] <qman__> I'm of the opinion that unless that minute increase in performance is absolutely necessary, it's not worth the hassle
[07:41] <qman__> I'd rather stick to a common platform
[07:41] <qman__> makes troubleshooting a lot easier
[07:41] <lirk> you are right here
[07:43] <lirk> qman__, is there a way to specify at boot what kernel modules should be loaded
[07:43] <qman__> you can prevent modules from being loaded by blacklisting in /etc/modprobe.d
[07:46] <lirk> It seems good
[07:46] <lirk> I also read about some modules.conf in other distributions
[08:47] <Bilge> Can I install the newest version of ufw on 8.04 LTS?
[09:23] <kaushal> hi
[09:23] <kaushal> is there a way to know what type of Hardware RAID has been configured?
[09:24] <kaushal> on the running ubuntu 8.04 server
[09:27] <_ruben> kaushal: depends on the hardware raid controller
[09:31] <kaushal> 01:00.0 SCSI storage controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS1068E PCI-Express Fusion-MPT SAS (rev 08)
[09:36] <_ruben> if it doesnt show in the boot messages, then you'll have to see if there's any linux management tools for suchs cards
[09:37] <ever> does it make sense to put a virtual machine (kvm) directly on a lvm volume of the host system? so that each vm gets its own volume and there is no filesystem on the host involved ?
[09:38] <_ruben> i'd say it does
[09:38] <soren> ever: That's a common setup.
[10:06] <qman__> ever, that's a sensible setup, since it eliminates the overhead of running a filesystem in a file on a filesystem
[10:14] <ever> ok, that's what i thought.. but vmbuilder does not support this right away?
[10:16] <soren> ever: There seems to be some issues along those lines, yes.
[10:35] <_ruben> hmm .. embperl seemed nice at first, but turns out a bit limited rather quickly .. or im just not finding the proper resources :p
[12:20] <azlon> when i try to add a new drive to my raid using mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sdg1 i get: mdadm: /dev/sdg1 not large enough to join array
[12:20] <azlon> any ideas?
[12:26] <_ruben> well .. /dev/sdg1 is not large enough to join the array obviously
[12:26] <azlon> _ruben, but my fdisk -l says otherwise: http://pastebin.com/d2b272f5c
[12:28] <azlon> it says they are the exact same size
[12:46] <azlon> any ideas on the raid issue?
[12:49] <_ruben> hmm .. dunno then
[13:15] <J_P> hi all
[13:16] <J_P> How I disable sound (beed) when I use TAB key on keyboard?
[13:30] <zul> ttx: is there an upstream bug tracker for likewise-open?
[13:31] <ttx> yes
[13:31] <ttx> zul: http://lobugs.likewise.com/
[13:31] <ttx> zul: not sure how much they use it nowadays though
[13:34] <zul> well it looks like this bug had been reported already upstream anyways
[14:25] <ttx> smoser: should bug 444598 now be FixCommitted/FixReleased ?
[14:26] <smoser> i think so. yes.
[14:26] <ttx> smoser: ok, please update :)
[15:05] <zul> ttx: for m2crypto there is a new version that im gong to upload to my ppa, if everything is kosher with the testsuite ill get a ffe for it
[15:17] <ttx> zul: hmmkay
[15:53] <zul> ttx: ping
[15:53] <ttx> zul: pong
[15:53] <zul> i saw this the other day http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/rpms/dhcp/F-12/dhcp-4.1.0-inherit-leases.patch?revision=1.1&view=markup
[15:53] <zul> basically it allows users to keep their old ip address when using dhcp, i think that this might really help us
[15:54] <ttx> zul: how would it help us ? close bugs ?
[15:55] <zul> well if users have a low lease time samba restarts everytime the dhcp restarts, i have a workaround for that but the patch will help like ssh, mysql, etc
[15:55] <ttx> hmm
[15:56] <zul> if you think its too risky now then I can file it away for luckid
[15:56] <zul> lucid even
[15:56] <ttx> well, it's very late for that kind of change that might have some strange unforeseen sideeffects
[15:56] <zul> ok ill file it away and introduce it in lucid
[16:06] <zul> ttx: ill upload my samba workaround then
[16:18] <superbeef> I need to completely force all the config scrips to rerun for mysql.... i've tried dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server, but nothing works...
[16:27] <mathiaz> ttx: ran into bug 446841 yesterday
[16:28] <ttx> mathiaz: just I read that
[16:28] <mathiaz> ttx: wanted to make sure it's on the release team radar -
[16:28] <ttx> it is
[16:28] <mathiaz> ttx: seems important to me for release
[16:28] <ttx> appears on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:28] <mathiaz> ttx: I won't be online on Monday
[16:29] <mathiaz> ttx: so I won't have so much time to track this down (except for today)
[16:29] <ttx> mathiaz: how were those registered ?
[16:29] <ttx> mathiaz: by the proxy magic itself ?
[16:29] <mathiaz> ttx: via the image-store-proxy
[16:30] <ttx> mathiaz: did you ping gustavo about the bug already ?
[16:30] <mathiaz> ttx: yes
[16:30] <mathiaz> ttx: he's never seen the error
[16:30] <mathiaz> ttx: so next step is to get the upstream guyz have a look at it
[16:30] <ttx> the error seems pretty clear in that case. That's rare enough
[16:31] <mathiaz> ttx: which is why I opened a task for the eucalyptus package
[16:31] <ttx> well, I have a couple issues I need them to look at as well
[16:31] <mathiaz> ttx: rare - well it happens every time when the proxy registers something
[16:31] <mathiaz> ttx: right - I'll look into that today
[16:31] <mathiaz> ttx: but them I won't be back till Tuesday
[16:32] <ttx> mathiaz: I meant "it's rare that the error message is so clear"
[16:32] <mathiaz> ttx: ah ok
[16:32] <ttx> mathiaz: any idea if nurmi will join us today ? Is he travelling or already back ?
[16:33] <mathiaz> ttx: he should be back today
[16:33] <mathiaz> ttx: it's just a few hours of travel for him
[16:34] <ttx> mathiaz: because the "start after network is up" track was a dead end, in the DB deadlock issue
[16:34] <mathiaz> ttx: the DB still deadlocks?
[16:35] <ttx> mathiaz: every single time
[16:35] <mathiaz> ttx: I've checked my setup - turns out the CC is using dhcp, with a statically assigned IP address though
[16:35] <mathiaz> ttx: ok - I'll try to reboot my CC a couple of times
[16:35] <ttx> dhcp/static doesn't come into play here
[16:35] <mathiaz> ttx: I haven't noticed that yet - I'll look closer
[16:35] <ttx> I even disabled start-at-boot to start it manually a couple minutes after everything is up
[16:35] <ttx> it still triggers the issue
[16:37] <mathiaz> ttx: how important is this?
[16:37] <mathiaz> ttx: it doesn't crash the service - it just takes more time getting ready
[16:37] <ttx> it just makes the 2-5 first commands fail
[16:37] <ttx> mathiaz: so "medium"
[16:38] <mathiaz> ttx: ok - so if you wait like 5 minutes before the first command
[16:38] <mathiaz> ttx: the first command will actually succeed
[16:38] <ttx> mathiaz: no.
[16:38] <ttx> I waited 8 minutes before first command and still triggered it
[16:38] <ttx> eucalyptus will do a hard reset on db connections after 5 tries
[16:39] <mathiaz> ttx: it's the first command that will actually trigger the process to start the db and lead the hard reset?
[16:39] <ttx> but it will by itself do some of those tries
[16:39] <ttx> the first command will do one of the 5 tries
[16:40] <mathiaz> ttx: gotcha
[16:40] <ttx> euca explicitely waits for 5 failures before deciding to hardreset. grep "Reset" on cloud-output
[16:40] <ttx> or "DEADLOCK".
[16:41] <ttx> the test is : reboot, "euca-describe-availbility-zones verbose"
[16:41] <ttx> mathiaz: if you get some issues there, grep for Reset / DEAZDLOCK in cloud-output
[16:41] <mathiaz> ttx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/289362/
[16:42] <mathiaz> ttx: let me reboot the cc
[16:42] <ttx> mathiaz, zul: did you spend some time on the regression/rc bug hunt yet ?
[16:42] <mathiaz> ttx: nope
[16:42] <zul> mathiaz: yeah just that cifs bug so far
[16:42] <mathiaz> ttx: I've got a script that creates a list of Confirmed/Triagged bugs
[16:43] <ttx> zul: that's a kernel issue
[16:43] <mathiaz> ttx: my plan was to go throught that list and find regression
[16:43] <mathiaz> ttx: whith zul helping in getting the New,Incomplete bugs
[16:43] <mathiaz> ttx: if we could get an importance set on every bug, that would help in filtering as well
[16:44] <zul> ttx: 420639 398733 414359
[16:44] <ttx> bug 420639
[16:44] <ttx> bug 398733
[16:44] <ttx> bug 414359
[16:44] <zul> the dovecot ones are on my radar to fix today
[16:45] <zul> ttx: 5.2.10 was shipped with a broken pear, there is a known work around and apparently its fixed in 5.2.11 but I havent tested it yet
[16:45] <zul> but 5.2.11 has its own problems i think as well
[16:46] <mathiaz> ttx: CC rebooted - first command was successful
[16:46] <ttx> grep Reset / DEADLOCK ?
[16:47] <ttx> mathiaz: is it a CC or a Cloud+Cc+Walrus+SC ?
[16:47] <ttx> zul: those should be nominated for karmic
[16:47] <mathiaz> ttx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/289365/
[16:47] <zul> ttx: okies
[16:47] <genii> No kerberos with imap would suck
[16:48] <mathiaz> ttx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/289366/
[16:48] <zul> ttx: for lucid i want to package pear seperately from php
[16:48] <ttx> as all the ones you find that are RC or regressins
[16:48] <mathiaz> ttx: ^^ this is the result of grep -i reset in cloud-output
[16:48] <ttx> hmmm
[16:49] <zul> ttx: the 0.20.2 m2crypto suffer the same fate
[16:49] <ttx> mathiaz: could you do stop/clear logs/start/test and see if you get that reset things in that case
[16:50] <ttx> looks like in your case the soft reset is sufficient
[17:02] <ttx> mathiaz, kirkland: about bug 444352, if both of you could do the test at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/444352/comments/13
[17:02] <kirkland> ttx: okay
[17:02] <ttx> If you don't hit it, we can downgrade prio
[17:03] <aubre_> smoser: last night you posted a couple of links to allow one to resize UEC images - is there a way to get these scripts linked from the http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic web page? or at least post shrink instructions that ttx posted in this blog entry here http://fnords.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/run-your-own-uec-part-2/ displayed on the image page?
[17:04] <smoser> aubre_, yeah... we're looking for a way to distribute those / that script (which i've been fixing/working on under bug 439868)
[17:05] <aubre_> smoser: great, I really like the idea od the uec-images being small and then being able to expand them to whatever size you want, and I'm sure it would be nice for the EC2 images as well.
[17:05] <smoser> well, the ec2 are different.. theres basically zero cost for 10G image above a 2G image
[17:06] <smoser> so theres no value in < 10G
[17:06] <smoser> i think we should probably put a bzr branch somewhere ...
[17:07] <smoser> i think probably ubuntu-on-ec2 is "good enough"
[17:07] <aubre_> ood point
[17:08] <aubre_> good even
[17:12] <aubre_> is there much benefit in running a 32-bit UEC image? sorry if the question seems silly
[17:12] <zul> ttx: #447360
[17:13] <aubre_> I can only think if you were running some proprietary software that wouldn't run on 64-bit
[17:15] <mathiaz> ttx: I was able to reproduce your deadlock
[17:16] <mathiaz> ttx: euca-describe-availability-zones verbose returns a 403 Forbidden error
[17:16] <ttx> ha - ha. Any reason why it wouldn't trigger the first time ?
[17:16] <ttx> because I reproduce it reliably here
[17:17] <ttx> mathiaz: run it 3-5 times, it should start to work
[17:17] <mathiaz> ttx: log files being deleted?
[17:17] <mathiaz> ttx: this is the only change I made before rebooting
[17:17] <mathiaz> ttx: the 4th time succeeded
[17:18] <aubre_> ttx:mathiaz: sometimes when I ring my system up the very first time i check it I get the 403 error but then after it is up a little longer it goes away and i get the expected output
[17:20] <mathiaz> aubre_: right - probably bug 444352
[17:20] <ttx> i'm on the release meeting, bbl
[17:35] <wizardslovak> hello people
[17:44] <dinda> sommer: Happy Birthday Dude!
[17:45] <sommer> dinda: thanks :-)
[17:46] <dinda> sommer: 21 again?
[17:46] <sommer> heeeh, something like that
[17:47] <dinda> sommer: have a good one dude - see you at UDS
[17:48] <wizardslovak> happy bday
[17:48] <wizardslovak> what would be easiest and best software for email server ?
[17:48] <wizardslovak> postfix-dovecot?
[18:54] <tarvid> what is everybody's favorite dns tool box
[18:56] <smoser> dnsmasq rocks
[18:57] <smoser> aubre, fyi, i put branch up at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-on-ec2/ubuntu-on-ec2/uec-tools/files
[18:57] <smoser> might be temporary, but better than the bug
[19:09] <Doonz> any rsync gurus around, need help with getting this set up to work http://pastebin.com/d6532273e
[19:19] <Doonz> any rsync gurus around, need help with getting this set up to work http://pastebin.com/d6532273e
[19:28] <addisonj_> i have dual displays, how do i make the top and bottom panels span both displays in gnome?
[19:28] <addisonj_> oops, wrong channel
[19:52] <Nonpython> any good advice for choosing a IRC server?
[19:52] <Doonz> any rsync gurus around, need help with getting this set up to work http://pastebin.com/d6532273e
[19:57] <pmatulis> Doonz: simply tell server1 to push the desired directories to the different servers (2,3,4)
[19:58] <Doonz> so basically ill have like 10 calls going?
[19:59] <Doonz> http://pastebin.com/d35a64cef <- updated
[19:59] <pmatulis> Doonz: depends where you want the dirs to end up (on the destination)
[19:59] <pmatulis> Doonz: if all under one dir then you should be able to push multipple dirs in one command
[20:00] <Doonz> ok how
[20:00] <pmatulis> Doonz: sorry, you need to do some work yourself
[20:00] <Doonz> i sorry you should try answering a question
[20:01] <Doonz> your version of an answer consist of telling me to push the whole direct to all servers yet thats not what i asked
[20:03] <Doonz> maybe the channel would be better served if you didnt offer help. besides rtfm
[20:19] <ilowe> Doonz: I'm sure everybody else in the channel will rush to help you after you blast somebody who tried (no matter how un-helpfully) to help you
[20:20] <ilowe> Doonz: it is definitely possible to do what you're trying to do; you need to write a script that loops through a list of server->dir mappings and uploads to each mapping properly
[20:20] <ilowe> Doonz: teaching you how to write that script is beyond the scope of an IRC help channel
[20:20] <ilowe> Doonz: that is what pmatulis meant when s/he said you need to do some work yourself
[20:20] <Doonz> its ok someone else already helped now but no worries
[20:21] <ilowe> Doonz: Good. Glad to hear that's working for you now.
[20:21] <Doonz> no help to this channel
[21:22] <wizardslovak> so anyone is here besides bots?
[21:23] <guntbert> !ask | wizardslovak
[21:23] <wizardslovak> heheh
[21:23] <wizardslovak> i need someone to help me with email server
[21:24] <guntbert> wizardslovak: its supposed to work this way: YOU state your complete question and whoever knows an answer will pick it up
[21:25] <wizardslovak> lol i know how it works
[21:25] <wizardslovak> just wondered if anyone is free now
[21:27] <erichammond> wizardslovak: What's your question?
[21:27] <guntbert> wizardslovak: don't ask if "anybody is free", there are no paid support technicians here, state your question please
[21:27] <wizardslovak> what email software should i use for server? postfix-dovicot? or something else
[21:28] <wizardslovak> i remember i tried to do it  some time ago and had problems, so is there any easier way to do it/.'?
[21:28] <JanC> postfix-dovecot will make things easier of course, as it's best documented in the Ubuntu docs...
[21:29] <wizardslovak> you know to have email server which would hold  username@website.com
[21:29] <guntbert> wizardslovak: have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html ?
[21:29] <wizardslovak> also some web gui to check email
[21:30] <wizardslovak> yes i've seen it and did read it
[21:33] <wizardslovak> is this http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ writeup good ?
[21:50] <wizardslovak> lest say i hot website1 on my server with hostname1 , shouldnt hostname be same as website?
[21:50] <wizardslovak> or it should be unique?
[22:39] <wizardslovak> does anyone has some experience with virtual box?
[22:40] <wizardslovak> how to set up ubuntu server in virtualbox so that ubuntu has static it
[22:40] <bogeyd6> it?
[22:40] <wizardslovak> ip
[22:41] <bogeyd6> is the server installed and running, now you want to assign static ip?
[22:41] <wizardslovak> now
[22:41] <wizardslovak> no
[22:41] <unit3> What's the right channel to ask about server problems with karmic?
[22:41] <wizardslovak> i already modifies /etc/networks
[22:41] <bogeyd6> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/change-ubuntu-system-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address.html
[22:41] <unit3> more specifically, why libpam-ldap no longer... works? ;)
[22:42] <wizardslovak> it has static ip
[22:42] <wizardslovak> it doesnt connect to internet tho
[22:42] <bogeyd6> now do a /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:42] <wizardslovak> how should i set it up in virtualbox?
[22:43] <bogeyd6> #virtualbox
[22:43] <wizardslovak> NAT ,bridged adapter or internal adapter
[22:43] <bogeyd6> http://samiux.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/bridge-network-interface-on-virtualbox/
[22:44] <bogeyd6> try that
[22:44] <bogeyd6> your goal is to bridge the interface
[22:44] <bogeyd6> i only know how to do in Vmware
[22:45] <wizardslovak> o
[22:45] <wizardslovak> thx
[22:45] <bogeyd6> unit3 #ubuntu-bugs
[22:45] <unit3> oh, didn't know there was a bugs channel. thanks!
[22:45] <bogeyd6> yw
[22:46] <wizardslovak> vmware is better the vbox?
[22:47] <bogeyd6> wizardslovak im my opinion, yes, scores better
[22:47] <wizardslovak> reason why i have virtual ubuntu is cause i want to learn how to set up email server
[22:47] <bogeyd6> http://cookingandcoding.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/virtualbox-vs-vmware-server-on-linux/
[22:48] <wizardslovak> ok thats it i am switching to vmware
[22:48] <bogeyd6> if you go server 2.0, ill be around another hour and can help
[22:48] <wizardslovak> ok so i get server and install ubuntu on it
[22:48] <wizardslovak> i should make it in hour
[22:48] <bogeyd6> kk
[22:53] <wizardslowak> so u said vmware server 2 right?
[22:54] <wizardslowak> 10 mins to download
[22:54] <bogeyd6> kkk
[22:54] <bogeyd6> heh
[22:54] <bogeyd6> that was racist
[22:54] <bogeyd6> yeah vmware server 2.0
[22:54] <bogeyd6> something
[22:54] <wizardslowak> ok i am getting it
[22:55] <bogeyd6> you cant have vbox and vmware at same time on system
[22:55] <wizardslowak> i got rid of vbox
[22:55] <bogeyd6> k
[23:00] <wizardslowak> 3 minutes
[23:00] <wizardslowak> btw how is it to set it up?
[23:00] <wizardslowak> i mean hard easy?
[23:01] <bogeyd6> its easy
[23:01] <bogeyd6> and there is a web interface
[23:01] <wizardslowak> ok 1 min remaining
[23:04] <wizardslowak> for test purposes
[23:05] <wizardslowak> do i have to register domain , if i will use it in LAN only?
[23:06] <bogeyd6> no
[23:07] <wizardslowak> ok good
[23:07] <bogeyd6> is it installed?
[23:07] <wizardslowak> its installing
[23:08] <bogeyd6> kk
[23:08] <bogeyd6> im about to have to go down to coffee machine
[23:08] <bogeyd6> install it
[23:08] <wizardslowak> ok i will
[23:08] <bogeyd6> and then go to http://127.0.0.1:8222
[23:08] <wizardslowak> go get the coffe
[23:08] <wizardslowak> i will be here
[23:08] <bogeyd6> remember where you told it to store virtual machines, cuz you will need to put the iso in that directory. also, if you have a cd leave it in the drive
[23:09] <wizardslowak> i will be using iso
[23:20] <wizardslowik> ok it askes me for login nam
[23:22] <wizardslowik> i gotta restart
[23:27] <wizardslovak> ok i am back
[23:29] <wizardslovak> damn
[23:29] <wizardslovak> where is the software/? it has only web access
[23:35] <wizardslovak> where do i install os?
[23:57] <wizardslovak> still here??