[00:00] <histo> kilo: yeah Ask in the wine channel to get wow running. There are also directions on wine's website
[00:00] <fccf> evilaim: you are talking about Karmic... Karmic is BETA and may break ..Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1
[00:00] <nutterpc> kilo, whats it doing?
[00:00] <evilaim> :)
[00:00] <evilaim> I know
[00:00] <kilo> now nothing.
[00:00] <kilo> lol
[00:00] <kilo> gonna try a reboot
[00:00] <kilo> brb
[00:01] <nutterpc> normally getting wow running under linux is as simple as editing the config.wtf
[00:01] <nutterpc> adding the lines at the bottom
[00:01] <nutterpc> and ur done
[00:01] <aheckler> hey all, i'm having trouble getting the microphone on my Microsoft VX-5000 webcam to work with Skype. Has anyone had experience with this?
[00:03] <LordDarth> Does anyone know the application name for the  "Connect to a server" application ?
[00:03] <gewt> 3
[00:03] <LordDarth> I cant seem to drag it onto avant-window-navigator as a launcher.
[00:03] <fccf> aheckler: you probably will not have any luck with that camera/mic combo ... see here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=865833
[00:04] <zebastian> I have avant window manager AWN installed on gnome, I installed LXDE and when I log into lxde awn appears on the process table albeit not on the screen, can someone help me fix this please?
[00:04] <aheckler> fccf: well the funny thing is it worked OOTB before, but then I had to reinstall Jaunty and now Skype can only get the video, not the audio in
[00:05] <h3rb3r7> usser_: thanks
[00:05] <usser_> h3rb3r7, no problem
[00:05] <histo> LordDarth: I'm looking hold up
[00:05] <LordDarth> Thanks
[00:06] <histo> LordDarth: nautilus-connect-server
[00:06] <LordDarth> Awsome, thanks histo
[00:06] <h3rb3r7> when i install lamp wihtin the ubuntu installation dialog, its totally blank right, so if have o configure each to work well together?
[00:07] <gewt> 54654
[00:07] <Serla> Can someone tell me what is wrong with this command (sudo mount -t vboxsf [-o OPTIONS] BV /home/jmd)
[00:08] <Serla> anything I need to change perhaps?
[00:08] <aheckler> errr... take out the "[-o OPTIONS]" part?
[00:08] <h3rb3r7> =)
[00:08] <Serla> aheckler what should I replace it with?
[00:09] <tbx> Serla: that may well depend upon which options you're wanting.
[00:09] <aheckler> Serla: well it looks like you copied and pasted that from an online example or something yeah?
[00:09] <Serla> aheckler exactly
[00:09] <Serla> tbx I just wanted to mount virtualbox shared files to any place in ubuntu
[00:09] <Serla> I dont know how
[00:10] <eyore15> will karmic contain the new one-window version of Gimp, does anyone know?
[00:10] <aheckler> Serla: well that's just an example of how someone would use the -o flag
[00:10] <tbx> Serla: then, "mount -t vboxsf [path/to/vbox-image] [/path/to/any/place/on/ubuntu]
[00:10] <ilovemistakes> hi all. i've got a paranoia :) i've found a bug in karmic and dirty patched target to get it work _for me_. but i suggested that it might help developers to fight the bug and i posted it in bug's thread on launchpad. there is no reply. i am afraid that i offended developer(s). is it better to just report and confirm?
[00:11] <aheckler> thanks tbx
[00:11] <fccf> eyore15: ask in #ubuntu+1 ... they are actually running the OS and can check for you
[00:11] <tbx> Serla: whoops
[00:11] <fccf> !karmic | ilovemistakes
[00:11] <usser_> ilovemistakes, no any fixes are welcome, as long as they are sane and documented
[00:11] <canthus13> ilovemistakes: More likely that they're just extremely busy right now.
[00:11] <tbx> Serla: then, "mount -t vboxsf -o loop [path/to/vbox-image] [/path/to/any/place/on/ubuntu]"
[00:12] <ilovemistakes> ok, thanks every one :)
[00:12] <Serla> tbx as for [/path/to/any/place/on/ubuntu] I guess /home/jmd will work? but what aboug [path/to/vbox-image] my folder name is BV shall I just replaced [path/to/vbox-image]  with BV?
[00:13] <bastidrazor> Serla: you would probably need an empty directory in order to mount something to
[00:13] <tbx> Serla: and the vbox image would be a file, not a "folder name[d] BV"
[00:14] <Serla> tbx how can I know whats the vbox image path?
[00:14] <optimizer> hey; i just want to setup a simple forum/calender website on ubuntu; what system is recommenced?
[00:15] <tbx> Serla: I suspect it's probably in /home/[user]/.VirtualBox/ ... somewhere. I have no idea, since I'm not using virtualbox.
[00:15] <foofish> Serla: go into vbox and click around in the virtual machine settings, it should tell you where the image is
[00:15] <Beria> erUSUL: Thanks
[00:15] <Beria> It's working
[00:15] <bastidrazor> Serla: there is a #vbox channel if you need more specifics than provided here.
[00:16] <erUSUL> Beria: ? it's done ? yay! XD
[00:16] <fccf> optimizer: personally I'd reccommend a Lamp server, a simplemachines forum and plug it in with a Joomla frontend and JoomCal
[00:16] <erUSUL> !yay | Beria
[00:16] <optimizer> fccf: what packages should I apt-gwet install ?
[00:16] <Beria> erUSUL: Me too... XD
[00:16] <Serla> bastidrazor been there
[00:17] <fccf> !lamp | optimizer start here ... the rest you download from the individual sites
[00:17] <Serla> foofish guess in vbox settings shows the windows path
[00:17] <erUSUL> Beria: ok; good luck with your Linux/ubuntu journey :) and you are wellcome
[00:18] <OoBatmanoO> hello, I want to use wubi
[00:18] <starcube> OK
[00:18] <foofish> Serla: http://www.virtualbox.org/attachment/wiki/Screenshots/virtual-disk-image-manager.png
[00:18] <tbx> OoBatmanoO: I want you to use wubi!
[00:18] <foofish> Serla: you want to get that screen up somehow
[00:19] <OoBatmanoO> it says that disk performance will take a hit
[00:19] <tbx> OoBatmanoO: It my be right!
[00:19] <OoBatmanoO> can i still use wubi, and put it in a dedicated partition so it wont take a hit
[00:19] <ReVoLt112> Has anyone an idea, how to make some dialogues fitting to 1024x600 screen resolution?
[00:19] <Darko> Serla: it should be in /usr/share/virtualbox
[00:19] <canthus13> How does one get sshd to listen on multiple ports?  I can figure out how to get it to listen to a port other than 22.
[00:20] <starcube> If you are doing that then you might as well dual boot ubuntu.
[00:20] <OoBatmanoO> i shrunk my Y: to accomodate space for kubuntu.
[00:20] <OoBatmanoO> I don't know how to do that starcube, I don't have a dvd rom neither
[00:20] <foofish> canthus13: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-March/083110.html
[00:20] <fccf> ReVoLt112: rotate the screen ... I don't know
[00:20] <ReVoLt112> :D
[00:20] <canthus13> foofish: thanks.
[00:21] <tbx> Need help resolving an issue on a fresh install & updated 9.04 ; the key combination "FN+F2" switches on and off the internal wireless adapter on a Dell Inspiron e1505 when running under the 9.04 live user; but installed it doesn't do a thing, and the wireless card is stuck off. What didn't get installed, or what can I look for?
[00:21] <canthus13> foofish: Fah. that was too simple. :)
[00:21] <foofish> canthus13: :)
[00:21] <ReVoLt112> i switches already to 96 dpi but not all windows are visible till yet^^
[00:22] <foofish> ReVoLt112: no. but you can probably drag the windows around so you can still read them and interact with them
[00:22] <dragon> irssi doesn't reconnect automatically. What settings should i look for?
[00:22] <ZykoticK9> tbx I've got a friend with a Dell laptop who has had similar issues - I know for a while he had to boot into Windows enable the wireless card then reboot back into Ubuntu.  Good luck man.
[00:22] <mo0nykit> Hello! I'm running 2.6.28-15-generic. But when I do "sudo update-initramfs -u", it complains the "2.6.31.1-Custom" does not exist. Where can I find the update-initramfs config file which tells it what initrd img to look into?
[00:22] <ReVoLt112> problem ist that some windows are to big for this workaround
[00:23] <tbx> ZykoticK9: Sounds, then, like it's time to just get a pcmcia card. :(
[00:23] <foofish> dragon: not sure, maybe server_reconnect_time
[00:23] <mgv2> hi - my computer volume out the speakers very low - what can i do except alsa?
[00:23] <tbx> ZykoticK9: the odd thing is that it works fine running live-user off the same 9.04 install cd.
[00:23] <foofish> ReVoLt112: you tried alt-dragging on the window to move it?
[00:23] <ReVoLt112> sometimes i see a 1 pixel height button, so i can guess which of them is the OK button
[00:23] <ReVoLt112> alt-dragging?
[00:23] <AlDoug_> Is there a way to use cp such that it will copy everything *except* certain files?
[00:24] <foofish> ReVoLt112: yes
[00:24] <foofish> ReVoLt112: hold down alt, drag anywhere in the window
[00:24] <fccf> mo0nykit: you are trying to update from Hardy to Karmic ... Impossible, and 28-15 is depricated ... do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade before running initramfs updater
[00:24] <ZykoticK9> tbx, I really wish I could talk to him "right now" cause he's gotten his wireless working pretty well now (after jumping through a lot of hoops), i also believe that he switched over to using WICD? or some such alternative Wireless Manager app - don't know the specific obviously.
[00:24] <dragon> foofish: it's currently "server_reconnect_time = 5min"
[00:25] <ReVoLt112> *g* well thats easy, thanks a lot :D
[00:25] <tbx> ZykoticK9: yes, I have WICD installed. I use that by default on my other machines.
[00:25] <foofish> dragon: ok. i dunno if that's good or bad :) maybe set it to 1 second somehow
[00:25] <OoBatmanoO> is there anyway that i can use wubi to install kubuntu to it's own partition from the getgo?
[00:25] <epaphus> If I have installed a ubuntu customized version.. is it possible I can make it a LiveCD so i can distribute it?
[00:26] <OoBatmanoO> i know i can use LVPN to do so after the installation is done, but i don't know about before the installation
[00:26] <IdleOne> !remaster | epaphus
[00:26] <dragon> foofish: as of now irssi completely fails to reconnect. Don't think 1 sec is going to help
[00:26] <dragon> foofish: anyways, thanks
[00:27] <kilo> wow, winehq is totally dead.  So wow.exe is running fine, but it only allows me a resolution of 3360x1050 (really squishy)... I'm sure that this has something to do with the dual monitor setup I have with the vid card. I'm running a second monitor via twinview and both monitors have a resolution of 1680x1050 (3360 is the combined resolution of both screens; I only wanna play on one. any ideas? wow only gives me a resolution of 3360 x1050 as 
[00:27] <xuser> Hi, do you guys know what app does alternate.iso calls durint install to setup the keyboard?
[00:27] <q0_0p> anyone here can help me get internet working for dhcp server?  clients can recieve ip but no internet
[00:27] <epaphus> IdleOne, do you know if it is possible to load my LiveCD (that measure 1.3GB) in the RAM of the user?
[00:27] <KB1JWQ> q0_0p: Likely a mismatched subnet mask or a default gateway that isn't there / working correctly.
[00:27] <mgv2> hi - my computer volume out the speakers is very low - what can i do except alsa?
[00:27] <KB1JWQ> mgv2: Check the balance.
[00:28] <KB1JWQ> Check for hardware faults as well, mgv2
[00:28] <IdleOne> epaphus: I don't believe the entire livecd gets loaded at once. I think it loads to ram the base plus what you are using at the time but I am not sure
[00:28] <q0_0p> KB1JWQ, was wondering if u could guide me in the right direction; im guessing i have to modify the dhcpd.conf again
[00:28] <shades_aus> Hello all
[00:28] <mgv2> KB1JWQ, how can i check both?
[00:28] <ZykoticK9> kilo, option 1) use nvidia setting to disable one monitor then start the game 2) config you xorg.conf with a NULL setting to automatically disable one monitor when an app asks for 1680x1050.  Good luck.
[00:28] <KB1JWQ> q0_0p: Maybe, maybe not.  What's the routing table show on the client?
[00:28] <shades_aus> FunkyHat Hey!
[00:28] <q0_0p> KB1JWQ, did u want me to type in route -n?
[00:29] <KB1JWQ> q0_0p: Is it windows or Ubuntu (the client)?
[00:29] <funkyHat> Hi shades_aus
[00:29] <q0_0p> KB1JWQ, windows client
[00:29] <KB1JWQ> q0_0p: Then I have no idea. :-)
[00:29] <q0_0p> KB1JWQ, darn
[00:29] <KB1JWQ> q0_0p: ipconfig /all should show that data.
[00:29] <shades_aus> FunkyHat After having a wonderful 1900x1200 screen resolution for 2 days on Ubuntu, it has decided to return to VGA once again :(
[00:29] <peol> shades_aus: Kernel-upgrade?
[00:29] <funkyHat> shades_aus: boo :(
[00:29] <shades_aus> peol Maybe!
[00:30] <KB1JWQ> q0_0p: Pastebins are your friend for that data.
[00:30] <shades_aus> FunkyHat yeah
[00:30] <q0_0p> KB1JWQ, my subnet is 255.255.255.0 for the dhcp server; and the AT&T gateway is 255.255.255.0
[00:30] <peol> shades_aus: Did you install your drivers through envy?
[00:30] <shades_aus> peol no, through update manager
[00:30] <funkyHat> peol: no, his card is supported by the open source ATi drivers
[00:30] <KB1JWQ> q0_0p: This might be better suited for ##networking
[00:30] <q0_0p> KB1JWQ, cool
[00:30] <peol> Aah
[00:30] <q0_0p> KB1JWQ, thx
[00:30] <shades_aus> Its an ati x800
[00:31] <peol> I actually switched from ATI to Nvidia last year because of the b0rked drivers :/
[00:31] <funkyHat> shades_aus: did you try the same things that we did before to get it working?
[00:31] <shades_aus> but the DVI is no longer working. and my xorg.conf still has LCD listed
[00:31] <mo0nykit> Hello! I'm running 2.6.28-15-generic. But when I do "sudo update-initramfs -u", it complains the "2.6.31.1-Custom" does not exist. Where can I find the update-initramfs config file which tells it what initrd img to look into? Here is my terminal output http://paste.ubuntu.com/289679/
[00:31] <shades_aus> funkyHat, yep. Nothing has changed there
[00:32] <shades_aus> funkyHat I tried moving the LCD entry up before the standard monitor entry in xorg.conf but no help
[00:32] <IdleOne> mo0nykit: are you sure you have  2.6.28-15-generic? run uname -a
[00:33] <funkyHat> shades_aus: did you notice any upgrades to any xorg packages?
[00:34] <shades_aus> funkyHat none that I can remember
[00:34] <shades_aus> would there be a log to check somewhere?>
[00:35] <od3n> can someone help me out with a issue
[00:35] <funkyHat> shades_aus: /var/log/apt/term.log
[00:35] <funkyHat> !ask od3n
[00:35] <funkyHat> !ask | od3n
[00:36] <od3n> I think I messed something up on my user account
[00:36] <IdleOne> od3n: more details
[00:37] <od3n> ok well I was trying to get the video on a lcd that I have hooked up to a lap top I am using
[00:37] <shades_aus> funkyHat grep for X11 ?
[00:37] <mo0nykit> IdleOne, yes it is Linux kit-laptop 2.6.28-15-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 9 10:49:34 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[00:37] <od3n> but with the user account I could not get the right resolution
[00:37] <ectropy> What chan is for ubuntu nbr?
[00:38] <faryshta> Is there any software to create small animations on Ubuntu?
[00:38] <IdleOne> mo0nykit: strange because I just ran the same command without issue
[00:38] <funkyHat> shades_aus: it'll probably be easier to open it up and search through it, grep's results wont be all that helpful
[00:38] <worm> hello, at computer restarting, sup and inf XFCE bars disappeared .... How could i get them back ? Is there a way to reset xfce ? I can't find any ~/.xfce ... thanks
[00:38] <ectropy> ! ubuntu nbr
[00:38] <ectropy> ! nbr
[00:38] <foofish> faryshta: like animated gifs?
[00:38] <od3n> so I changed the h and v sync with gedit
[00:38] <IdleOne> .31 is kernel being used in karmix and -Custom implies you either modified the kernel or downloaded a custom kernel
[00:39] <funkyHat> shades_aus: search for xorg
[00:39] <IdleOne> karmic* mo0nykit ^^
[00:39] <od3n> then when I rebooted the panels would just keep blinking
[00:39] <mo0nykit> IdleOne, actually I had installed a custom 2.6.31 kernel, I probably did not uninstall it properly. Somehow, update-initramfs still lists the non-existing initrd's as "existing". Let me pastebin to illustrate
[00:39] <ectropy> ubottu, you're great!
[00:39] <IdleOne> mo0nykit: make sure that kernel is gone
[00:39] <ectropy> powned
[00:40] <faryshta> foofish, a little bigger, like youtube video.
[00:40] <erikk71> hi all
[00:40] <bobbob1016> If I setup a softRAID5 with mdadm for storage, and then my main drive dies, is it possible to recover the softRAID5 with a different /root?
[00:40] <shades_aus> funkyHat Ok, there ARE some entries for xorg so there must have been an update
[00:40] <erikk71> has anyone here ever used samsung hard drive
[00:40] <od3n> that said I am able to get it all working when I am logged on as root
[00:41] <erikk71> just curious to what your experience has been
[00:41] <mo0nykit> IdleOne, yes, the custom kernel is gone. I only have 2.6.28-15-generic in my /boot. Here's the list of "available" initrd's http://paste.ubuntu.com/289684/
[00:41] <funkyHat> shades_aus: what about xserver-xorg-video-ati ?
[00:41] <NOTHatingUbuntu> peol: could you tell me again what the code is to check if things are muted or anything?
[00:41] <peol> NOTHatingUbuntu: alsamixer
[00:41] <mo0nykit> IdleOne, I'm using Jaunty
[00:41] <funkyHat> shades_aus: the dates are at the top and bottom of each section
[00:42] <shades_aus> funkyHat  xserver-xorg-video-radeon_1%3a6.12.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[00:42] <funkyHat> shades_aus: date?
[00:42] <foofish> faryshta: dunno, sorry
[00:42] <IdleOne> mo0nykit: but still using the custom kernel. I am not sure how to fix your issue but initrams still sees that kernel
[00:42] <od3n> so I was wondering it there was a xorg.conf for each user account and if so could I copy the root one to the user account
[00:43] <IdleOne> mo0nykit: try asking in #ubuntu+1 they might know better
[00:43] <shades_aus> funkyHat Log started: 2009-04-20  14:00:52
[00:43] <foofish> od3n: no, i think there's only one xorg.conf
[00:43] <funkyHat> shades_aus: definitely not that then
[00:43] <mo0nykit> IdleOne, I'm running the default Jaunty kernel. Yes, there is probably some list file that update-initramfs will read... Okay thanks :)
[00:44] <foofish> od3n: maybe you should look in /var/log/ for the xorg log files, and search for errors and warning there
[00:44] <shades_aus> funkyHat so update manager won't append to that file? it creates a new one each time?
[00:44] <funkyHat> shades_aus: you've lost me
[00:44] <NOTHatingUbuntu> could someone help me with a problem with my sound? it says its not outputting'
[00:45] <funkyHat> shades_aus: you could search backwards from the bottom, looks like the most recent entry is at the bottom
[00:45] <cesar_> ola
[00:46] <Serla> Please help with this command (sudo mount -t vboxsf -o loop BV /home/jmd/mount) it doesnt seem to work!
[00:46] <skylar_> hey anyone around  ?
[00:46] <shades_aus> funkyHat nothing towards the bottom
[00:46] <KagomeS> hi
[00:46] <shades_aus> funkyHat for xserver
[00:46] <KagomeS> um . . . I need TONS of help . . . anybody?
[00:46] <funkyHat> shades_aus: ok
[00:46] <shades_aus> funkyHat libc6 is there however
[00:47] <shades_aus> funkyHat libglib2
[00:47] <skylar_> If anyone can help me figure out how to get the keyboard layout working that'd be great
[00:47] <skylar_> wait nvm
[00:47] <KagomeS> I installed Xubuntu
[00:47] <skylar_> ?
[00:47] <KagomeS> um, and I have no idea how to get DVD playback
[00:47] <skylar_> sweet It is working now nvm
[00:47] <KagomeS> or how to get java
[00:47] <funkyHat> !DVD
[00:47] <IdleOne> !java > KagomeS
[00:47] <Steil> HEY GUYS I JUST GOT A COPY OF WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE IN THE MAI LFOR FREE!!!
[00:47] <IdleOne> !ot | Steil
[00:48] <LordDarth> haha
[00:48] <foofish> Steil: cool, i hear you can make pretty patterns if you microwave it
[00:48] <LordDarth> ROFl
[00:48] <skylar_> err wtf, it works in the chat but nowhere else XD
[00:48] <skylar_>  Its in the french layout in some windows :?
[00:48] <funkyHat> shades_aus: I suppose those could have an effect on it. I don't know enough about it to be able to say though :( maybe someone else can help
[00:49] <shades_aus> funkyHat fair enough
[00:49] <KagomeS> oh, wait
[00:49] <sddfdf> is the kernel module ohci_hc the same as usb-ohci ?
[00:49] <funkyHat> skylar_: in the keyboard preferences there is a tickbox that says "Separate layout for each window"
[00:49] <Shirakawasuna> I'm new to ubuntu/debian package management.  Are old package sources stored or deleted automatically and if stored, is there a way to delete them easily?
[00:49] <funkyHat> Shirakawasuna: apt-get clean
[00:50] <shades_aus> funkyHat I have very little idea myself, mind you I am learning where to go look now, so that's kinda cool in itself
[00:50] <funkyHat> Shirakawasuna: or apt-get autoclean
[00:50] <Shirakawasuna> funkyHat: is there a gui method?  The primary user of this netbook will be a non-techie.
[00:50] <LordDarth> Is there some way to get rid of ALL the panels.
[00:50] <LordDarth> The last one there doesn't have an option to remove it
[00:50] <funkyHat> Shirakawasuna: not that I know of. You could set up a cron job to do it for them though. It's quite a quick operation
[00:50] <Serla> Anyone tried virtualbox sharing here?
[00:51] <funkyHat> LordDarth: remove gnome-panel from your session
[00:51] <Shirakawasuna> funkyHat: alright, thanks!
[00:51] <LordDarth> Thanks funkyHat, i'll give that a whirl
[00:51] <foofish> Shirakawasuna: looks like wajig may be sort of what you want
[00:51] <foofish> Shirakawasuna: although it's barely a gui
[00:51] <cihat> i musst g to a german chat can you give me a linkk ??????????ß
[00:52] <Pici> !de | cihat
[00:52] <foofish> Shirakawasuna: er, gjig in the wajig package, that is. according to http://www.ubuntugeek.com/cleaning-up-all-unnecessary-junk-files-in-ubuntu.html
[00:52] <water> Hello all!
[00:53] <shades_aus> funkyHat going to try remove "Default Screen" and only leave "LCD Screen"
[00:53] <Shirakawasuna> foofish: wow, that's a horrible name for an app, but thanks :D
[00:53] <cihat>  i musst g to a german chat can you give me a linkk ??????????ß
[00:53] <LordDarth> funkyHat:  i looked in system > Preferences > settings . But i dont see gnome-panel
[00:53] <LordDarth> err
[00:53] <lstarnes> cihat: type this: /join #ubuntu-de
[00:53] <LordDarth> settings = sessions
[00:54] <funkyHat> shades_aus: ok. Worth a try, but I think you needed 2 screen sections to force it to check both outputs
[00:55] <funkyHat> LordDarth: hrm. That is still what you have to do, I don't know where you would do it though
[00:56] <funkyHat> LordDarth: oh here we go, open gconf-editor and go to /desktop/gnome/session
[00:56] <LordDarth> Ok
[00:57] <bryanl_> i'm looking for a faster update source for ubuntu.  where do i start?
[00:57] <funkyHat> LordDarth: remove panel from required_components_list
[00:57] <bobbob1016> If I setup a softRAID5 with mdadm for storage, and then my OS drive dies, is it possible to recover the softRAID5 with a reinstall?
[00:57] <funkyHat> bryanl_: pick one near to where you live
[00:58] <LordDarth> brb going to see if this worked
[00:58] <shades_aus> funkyHat Darn :-) lol
[00:58] <funkyHat> LordDarth: can probably just kill gnome-panel now
[00:58] <LordDarth> k
[00:58] <LordDarth> still came back
[00:58] <funkyHat> Maybe you can't just kill it then
[00:59] <LordDarth> k brb
[00:59] <Serla> Can someone help with this please sudo mount -t vboxsf -o loop BV /home/jmd/mount
[00:59] <theoo> i am trying to install moodle.. but when i create a directory on my apache server moodle and try to open it from browser i get 404.. :/
[00:59] <LordDarth> sweet
[01:00] <LordDarth> Thanks funkyHat
[01:00] <funkyHat> LordDarth: :)
[01:01] <usser_> theoo, well did you set your DocumentRoot properly, who owns the folder? what are the permissions?
[01:01] <skylar_> Another stupid question due to some tinkering I accidentally removed the wireless network monitor from the bar, and I can't find it in the add to panel section
[01:01] <usser_> skyla_, alt+f2 and nm-applet?
[01:02] <theoo> skylar_ i tried to change the permisions to 777 but same again.. when i create a new folder 'unknown' and point it with my browser i get it open ..
[01:02] <kilo>  *cry* it was bound to happen.... made ubuntu crash for the first time...
[01:02] <skylar_> huh ?
[01:03] <kilo> although it was more an underpwered machine's fault than the OS itself.
[01:03] <mo0nykit> IdleOne, the problem was with the /var/lib/initramfs-tools. The directory contains text files pertaining to all the initrd's that you have installed. Deleting the useless initrd's (those whose kernels have been uninstalled) would be safe.
[01:03] <usser_> theoo, linux is case sensitive u sure you dont have some capital letters somewhere
[01:03] <fccf> skylar_: pkill gnome-panel ... should reset it ... it technically supposed to be there
[01:03] <theoo> usser_ yeas i am sure.. i can open any folder from my browser.. but not the folders with name moodle ..
[01:04] <IdleOne> mo0nykit: good to know. glad you figured it out
[01:04] <usser_> theoo, huh, well thats weird
[01:04] <skylar_> fccf sorry I have no idea what you even mean by pkill, I've been on ubuntu for a maximum of 20 minutes, but eventually I'll figure it out
[01:04] <mo0nykit> IdleOne, thanks to the people at ubuntu+1
[01:05] <theoo> usser_ chown -R apache:apache ... does this mean something to make problem with it?
[01:05] <fccf> skylar_:  open a terminal .. Applications>Accessories>Terminal ... type ... pkill gnome-panel >enter
[01:05] <skylar_> k
[01:05] <kilo> Ok guys, well thank you all for your help thus far...  WoW is working, but it only gives me the option of 3360 x 1050 resolution (which is the resolution of both my monitors in twinview) any idea how I can force other resolutions into the selection via the video card settings? I'm sure if I can, I can set WoW to run in window-maximized mode and that should solve the whole issue.
[01:05] <usser_> theoo, i think its www-data not apache
[01:06] <theoo> usser_ so u have any suggestions to fix that?
[01:06] <usser_> theoo, chown -R www-data /folder && chmod -R 777 /folder
[01:07] <theoo> usser_ i will give it a try.. thnx
[01:07] <skylar_> :S Nothing
[01:07] <ZykoticK9> kilo, option 1) use nvidia setting to disable one monitor then start the game 2) config you xorg.conf with a NULL setting to automatically disable one monitor when an app asks for 1680x1050.
[01:08] <kilo> oh! and I posted my xorg.conf here: http://pastebin.com/m4dc392ad
[01:08] <ade2_> i think i saw that the "official ubuntu server book" was creative commons.  does that mean it can be downloaded somewhere?
[01:08] <fccf> skylar_ give me a few minutes and I will see if I can help you get it working again .. please put my name at the beginning when speaking with me
[01:09] <theoo> usser_ i get chown: `www-data': invalid user..
[01:09] <kilo> ZykoticK9: Thank you. I thought about that, but I'm wanting to run Wow in windowed mode. it's not requesting 1680x1050, ubuntu is saying that 3360x1050 is the only resolution available to it... make sense?
[01:09] <fccf> Goto System>Administration>Network, .. see what we get there
[01:09] <usser_> theoo, are u using ubuntu?
[01:09] <theoo> yes
[01:09] <fccf> skylar_: ^^^^ duoh
[01:10] <skylar_> fccf, cool will do.  No worries or anything I typically learn by screwing things up and having to fix them  lol
[01:10] <funkyHat> theoo: 404 is not found, if it were a permissions issue the error would be something else
[01:11] <kilo> I know one other work-around is to have 2 separate X Screens going, but when I tried that, Compiz freaked out on me.
[01:11] <fccf> skylar_: and sometimes we have to break something to get it to work ... so if necessarry you may want to come here and ask questions, or discribe what is going on so that we may better assist you
[01:11] <ZykoticK9> kilo, can you get into the game and set a resolution?  can you temporarily turn off one monitor with nvidia-settings and get into the game?  you need to know what resolution WoW wants before we can configure your xorg to match the settings.
[01:11] <theoo> funkyHat so what do you think the problem is?
[01:11]  * fccf likes breaking things ( and being able to fix them )
[01:11] <ZykoticK9> kilo, or turn turn this Windows mode on!
[01:11] <skylar_> fccf,  there is no "network" only network tools.
[01:12] <usser_> theoo, hm, strange. i just created a folder in my wwwroot didnt change any permissions and it works
[01:12] <funkyHat> theoo: that your server is not looking in the right place. Have you checked the logs to see where it is looking when you try to access localhost/moodle (or whatever)?
[01:12] <skylar_> Shows devices, traceroute, portscan ect
[01:13] <vgambit> just installed ubuntu server 9.04 on an old pc thinking I can host media on it, but it only shows a terminal and I'm kind of overwhelmed
[01:13] <kilo> ZykoticK9: Sorry, I thought I mentioned it: the game is not requesting resolutions. It asks the OS what resolutions are available. Unbuntu is returning that only the resolution 3360x1050 is available (which is way too wide). That's the resolution of both my monitors. I need to find a way to provide 1680x1050 as a resolution to the game, seeing as it's the one requesting from the OS what resolutions are available.
[01:14] <vgambit> are there any programs to let me access it with an x server?
[01:14] <carlosqueso> vgambit: you might want ton install the desktop version
[01:14] <funkyHat> vgambit: you can install ubuntu-desktop which will install the normal ubuntu packages over the top
[01:14] <ZykoticK9> kilo, then you have no choice but to use nvidia-settings, disable one monitor then start the game!
[01:14] <carlosqueso> dang it funkyhat you type faster than me
[01:14] <vgambit> funkyHat, that sounds like what I'm looking for
[01:14] <ipatrol> What's root-system-bin?
[01:14] <fccf> skylar_: run sudo network-admin ... in your terminal
[01:14] <vgambit> sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop?
[01:15] <AssemblyHall> Hello everybody....
[01:15] <ZykoticK9> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop <-- corrected
[01:15] <funkyHat> vgambit: almost. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ;)
[01:15] <AssemblyHall> i'm a newbie
[01:15] <theoo> funkyHat [Sat Oct 10 01:53:31 2009] [error] [client 77.28.168.174] File does not exist: /var/www/moodle
[01:15] <vgambit> ah, close
[01:15] <carlosqueso> Hi Assembly Hall...welcome...do you have a question?
[01:15] <kilo> ZykoticK9: are you sure there's no way to modify xorg.conf to reflect a different resolution?
[01:15] <vgambit> I'll just jot that down for now... my next problem will be hooking it up to the internet
[01:16] <AssemblyHall> need some ubuntu tutorials or ebooks
[01:16] <funkyHat> theoo: right, and what about `ls /var/www` -- what does that tell you?
[01:16] <vgambit> probably gonna end up using a long ethernet cable
[01:16] <skylar_> fccf command not found, ( I tried twice, I found this on ubuntu forums worth trying - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241889
[01:16] <funkyHat> vgambit: that is the best solution for a server machine anyway :)
[01:16] <vgambit> funkyHat, it's in the other room!
[01:16] <robuntu> I'm trying to install ndiswrapper, and when I give the make command I get this; http://pastebin.com/m11863134
[01:16] <AssemblyHall> also want to learn how i can turn my pc into a web server...
[01:16] <vgambit> the router is in this room
[01:17] <funkyHat> vgambit: right, but wireless is slow and unreliable
[01:17] <skylar_> fccf My bad I already looked in the add panel section for network monitor
[01:17] <vgambit> true...
[01:17] <funkyHat> vgambit: putting in a proper cable for it will save you frustration in the long run :)
[01:17] <keltor> is there an easy way to let's say reset ubuntu back to just what's in ubuntu-standard
[01:17] <vgambit> I can probably get a 50 footer from school anyway.
[01:17] <funkyHat> keltor: reinstall
[01:17] <kilo> And I'd rather just create a second X Screen instead of disabling one of them.... seems a shame to waste all that good monitor space   ;)
[01:18] <ZykoticK9> kilo, yes - but you'd have to switch to that resolution prior to starting the game each time (so you might as well just use nvidia-settings gui)  -- if this was a "normal" game with a resolution that could be selected, then there is a way to use xorg to automajically turn off one monitor when a game calls that resolution -- but if the game relies on what xorg's resolution is -> you gotta use nvidia-settings...  sorry to break bad news.
[01:18] <vgambit> once I install the ubuntu-desktop package, it'll "just work" when I reboot, right?
[01:18] <vgambit> or will there have to be some terminal command to see a gui?
[01:18] <skylar_> fccf, I have it fixed
[01:18] <atari2600a> hey
[01:18] <keltor> funkyHat: do i mean some other way - it's a remote server, so cannot do that
[01:18] <skylar_>   I hope
[01:18] <fccf> skylar_: good good
[01:18] <robuntu> I'm trying to install ndiswrapper, and when I give the make command I get this; http://pastebin.com/m11863134
[01:18] <atari2600a> I'm trying to enable ctrl-alt-backspace in 9.10 beta, but dontzap doesn't appear to be in the repos
[01:19] <skylar_> It at least shows signal strength I'll see if I can manage connections XD
[01:19] <funkyHat> vgambit: don't even need to reboot, it'll probably just start up by itself. if not you can run sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[01:19] <skylar_> fccf,  Thanks.
[01:19] <kilo> ZykoticK9: I see... insteresting. I think I'm just going to try to create a second X Screen then, without having Compiz scream at me   :P
[01:20] <funkyHat> keltor: ah ok. if you can remember the packages that you specifically installed, uninstall them using aptitude (not apt-get), it will auto-remove stuff that is no longer depended on by anything
[01:20] <vgambit> alright. the main reason I wanted to set that pc up as a server was so that I could keep an image of one of my laptop's partitions
[01:20] <theoo> clear
[01:20] <Pooky> wow, there's a lot of people in this channel O.o
[01:20] <vgambit> basically wanted to do a network backup/restore server, but for mac os x
[01:20] <kilo> thanks for the info!
[01:20] <robuntu> I'm trying to install ndiswrapper, and when I give the make command I get this; http://pastebin.com/m11863134
[01:20] <ZykoticK9> atari2600a, easiest solution is use (right)ctrl+SysRq (print screen)+k instead
[01:20] <keltor> funkyHat: so does apt-get autoremove
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> atari2600a, also see http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html
[01:21] <atari2600a> zykdoesn't appear to work
[01:21] <atari2600a> ZykoticK9: doesn't appear to work
[01:21] <Pooky> Can someone recommend an application for downloading torrent rss feeds, like for television shows and such. I'd like something console based that can run as a daemon in the background.
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> atari2600a, well I'm not foolish enough to test on my computer, lol
[01:22] <funkyHat> keltor: ah :). I also saw someone mention a tool for removing un-depended-on packages, but I can't remember the name of it. Sounded like it would list any packages that are not depended on
[01:22] <LordDarth> http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/670/screenshotp.png <-- sexiest ubuntu desktop you ever saw ;)
[01:22] <Pooky> LordDarth: it is?
[01:22] <Pooky> LordDarth: it is nice, I'll give it that
[01:22] <keltor> funkyHat: ok ... that sounds like someting to look for
[01:22] <LordDarth> Thanks.
[01:23] <Pooky> LordDarth: compiz/beryl/whatever for true transparency on the terminal and stuff?
[01:23] <LordDarth> Yes
[01:23] <first> hay guys my friend just installed unbuntu and his sound dose not work what do
[01:23] <Pooky> LordDarth: you should put together a write up detailing how you got such a sexy desktop, people love that kind of stuff
[01:23] <kilo> so speaking of which: anyone had any luck running two separate X Screens and successfully getting Compiz to run 2 Cubes?
[01:23] <myron> quick question, kill should work no matter which tty session you are on correct?
[01:23] <unop> funkyHat,  aptitude can do that - but i guess you're looking for "deborphan"
[01:23] <bastidrazor> LordDarth: you should check out cairo-dock.. it is a bit flashier than AWN
[01:23] <robuntu> I'm trying to install ndiswrapper, and when I give the make command I get this; http://pastebin.com/m11863134
[01:24] <Serla> its a pain in the bUTT just to do a simple thing in ubuntu
[01:24] <LordDarth> Not a bad idea Pooky
[01:24] <LordDarth> I'll take a look bastidrazor
[01:24] <foofish> myron: right
[01:24] <unop> myron, as long as you have the privileges to send signals to a process, yes
[01:24] <bastidrazor> LordDarth: also try no toolbars on windows. it looks a bit more sliming.
[01:24] <LordDarth> ok
[01:24] <LordDarth> thanks for the tips
[01:24] <Pooky> I like hiding scrollbars a lot fo the time
[01:24] <funkyHat> unop: I'm talking about packages that are manually installed, not just auto
[01:24] <coreyman1> I just installed ubuntu server, and I chose to set up network later, what is the command to set up network?
[01:25] <Pooky> especially on terms, since I'm usually running screen aynways
[01:25] <ipatrol> What's root-system-bin?
[01:25] <funkyHat> unop: so yeah probably deborphan. < keltor
[01:25] <Lenin_Cat> why do I constently get segment faults randomly, and then when I restart, its fine.
[01:25] <funkyHat> Constantly AND randomly?
[01:25] <foofish> Lenin_Cat: faulty hardware?
[01:25] <Lenin_Cat> funkyHat, yes
[01:26] <faldgan> Hmm
[01:26] <Lenin_Cat> foofish, doubt it.
[01:26] <funkyHat> Doesn't sound very random
[01:26] <robuntu> I'm trying to install ndiswrapper, and when I give the make command I get this; http://pastebin.com/m11863134
[01:26] <zebastian> i installed lxde and i am wondering whether i can run xfwm4 whilst login on
[01:26] <myron> unop: so If I am logged into a user account on the graphical tty session (tty7) and I have a program not responding, I could switch to tty1 and login to that same user session and type kill (process number) and it should terminate the given process.
[01:26] <LordDarth> Disabled scroll bar is nice bastidrazor
[01:26] <Lenin_Cat> foofish, because it began happening after I upgraded to ext4
[01:26] <unop> myron, is that a question? if so, yes
[01:26] <foofish> Lenin_Cat: oh. i never did that.
[01:26] <foofish> Lenin_Cat: guess i never will, now.
[01:28] <myron> unop: hmmm i tried that, and got no errors when killing the process. I even tried sudo. However, when I switched back to TTY7 the process was still running.
[01:28] <bastidrazor> LordDarth: i actually don't have toolbars either. i use alt+button1 to move windows.. alt+b2 for a drop down menu and alt+middle button for resizing windows
[01:28] <LordDarth> Nice ;)
[01:28] <foofish> myron: kill -9 it
[01:28] <unop> myron, foofish - no don't use -9
[01:28] <foofish> unop: why not? he tried killing it normally and failed
[01:29] <unop> myron,  some processes ignore a TERM signal - you might want to try kill -2 and kill -1
[01:29] <Serla> People of Ubuntu please help! I really got bored of ubuntu and this command (sudo mount -t vboxsf -o loop ubshare /home/jmd/winshare) says (ubshare: No such file or directory)
[01:29] <unop> foofish, because -9 should only ever be used as a last resort - it's not a clean termination
[01:30] <Pooky> I'm trying to find something like http://www.rulecam.net/ted/ but command line based
[01:30] <Pooky> something I can just put a file of rss feeds together for
[01:30] <foofish> unop: ok. but kill is the same as kill -2, no?
[01:30] <unop> foofish, no,  see kill -l
[01:30] <myron> unop: I guess I need to read the man-page for kill again. Thanks for the help foofish and unop.
[01:30] <foofish> unop: ok
[01:31] <wergeld> Can anyone give me a hand with an odd network issue?
[01:31] <chai_> im trying to enable internet connection sharing, but i cant seem to do it right. i tried firestarter and some other command line stuff. but i still cant get it to work!! its been weeks now!
[01:32] <Serla> Why is it so annoying headaching to do simple things in ubuntu
[01:32] <foofish> Serla: it was sent to test us
[01:33] <sddfdf> i complied a program "frotz" from source though when i run it i get ./frotz: ./frotz: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected , What does this mean ?
[01:33] <Serla> just 2 hours to figure out how to enable virtualbox sharing
[01:33] <Serla> 2 hours waste of time
[01:33] <chai_> any1 know how to share internet?
[01:33] <foofish> sddfdf: i guess frotz is not a binary, but some text file that is being executed as a shell script
[01:33] <foofish> sddfdf: if you run file frotz, it should say what sort of file it seems to be
[01:34] <foofish> sddfdf: i.e., type "file frotz"
[01:34] <myron> unop: any idea what signal pid is equivalent to opening system monitor right clicking a process and clicking kill?
[01:35] <paul_s> hello, i am a newbie, day 1 on ubuntu 9.04, i am wondering is there is anything like cakewalk for this?
[01:35] <unop> myron, should be the default i.e. -15 or SIGTERM
[01:35] <sddfdf> foofish, frotz: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, not stripped
[01:35] <wergeld> well, i will just throw it out there: i just did a fresh install of 9.04. i followed several how-to articles on setting up a static IP. When i am at the computer everything works fine. When i use NX to login remotely I am unable to see the ne the outside internet. it also states using the icon in the upper right corner that i have no network connection at all. but...i am logged in over the network. server and client are both on a 
[01:36] <foofish> sddfdf: that's odd. i've no idea, then
[01:36] <wergeld> When i fire up ifconfig it shows the correct static IP i set up plus the loopback client. but, again, in the network manager it shows no connections.
[01:37] <myron> unop: strange, I did a ctrl+alt+backspace and loged back into my user account. the problem process was still running, but I opened system monitor and killed it and it worked....
[01:37] <pilif12p> i get an error when i try to install something, its Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.2.1)
[01:37] <kruykaze> paul_s, did you try to run it on wine?
[01:37] <kruykaze> remote desktop freezes for me
[01:37] <paul_s> no i havent yet, i am willing to  try alternatives
[01:37] <kruykaze> gotcha
[01:38] <kruykaze> paul_s, welcome abord anyways
[01:38] <kruykaze> paul_s, music stuff?
[01:38] <paul_s> but i heard about wine and am going to install it now is it easy to install?
[01:38] <paul_s> yes i play guitar
[01:38] <unop> myron, strange indeed - some processes in state D (waiting for IO) will not terminate until the disk or network becomes available, and you probably helped by restarting the desktop
[01:38] <kruykaze> paul_s, recording and editing?
[01:39] <paul_s> yes
[01:39] <kruykaze> paul_s, what else?
[01:39] <tylert> Hello,  does  anyone have a good resource on terminal commands   I am working on making a wireless thin client using xubuntu
[01:39] <myron> unop: The problem program was warzone 2100 if you have ever tried it....
[01:39] <carlosqueso> paus_s wine is really easy if you want to use the ubuntu version, just sudo apt-get install wine
[01:39] <paul_s> let me think, does google earth work on linux?
[01:40] <sddfdf> paul_s, yes.
[01:40] <unop> myron, does it run under wine?
[01:40] <kruykaze> paul_s, make sure you get the latest wine from the ppa's
[01:40] <fccf> tylert: there are all kinds of setups that people have done with thin clients, I wouldn't find it difficult to find that information, I mean would you
[01:40] <kruykaze> not the one in ubuntu's repos
[01:40] <paul_s> cool, i am a pretty basic user, except for music
[01:40] <kruykaze> well let me get you wine's ppa
[01:40] <carlosqueso> tylert: www.linuxcommand.org
[01:40] <tylert> well i have already made several i just want to know how to make it better
[01:41] <tylert> thank you
[01:41] <myron> unop: nope, it has been ported to linux. I think I installed it via source. Besides I have set up a keyboard shortcut to kill all wine apps with CTRL+ALT+W
[01:41] <tylert> carlosqueso: thanks
[01:41] <paul_s> trying to figure out this app, xchat
[01:41] <kruykaze> paul_s, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[01:41] <VivaVista> how can I make myself the root user to alter some files
[01:41] <usser_> VivaVista, sudo -i
[01:41] <kruykaze> paul_s, use your cakewalk for a while until you get used to ubuntu
[01:41] <paul_s> is there a way to make a black background in xchat easy ?
[01:41] <carlosqueso> tylert: no problem...it's one of the ones i used when I started.....I'm trying to find the other, but I don't know
[01:41] <tylert> or sudo bash  which is just temporary
[01:42] <tylert> okay thanks
[01:42] <paul_s> been using xp home, and want to try non-windows stuff for a change :)
[01:42] <wergeld> awesome
[01:42] <wergeld> grrr
[01:42] <myron> unop: actually I just checked again. It is in the ubuntu repository
[01:42] <paul_s> but if i have to ill use wine, or dual boot if i really have to
[01:42] <carlosqueso> tylert: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885
[01:42] <kruykaze> paul_s, you can make your own background
[01:43] <Pooky> ah, found what I was looking for, bashT
[01:43] <carlosqueso> that's what taught me
[01:43] <Pooky> I need a "broadcatching" clinet
[01:43] <Pooky> oh Internet, you and your funny way of naming things
[01:43] <kruykaze> :D
[01:43] <Ali_nz> Heya folks
[01:43] <kruykaze> hey ali
[01:43] <DVS01> hey
[01:43] <VivaVista> it still won't let me copy a game file to the game folder :(
[01:43]  * DVS01 just lost his sysadmin job
[01:43] <DVS01> on wednesday
[01:43] <VivaVista> I did the sudo -i command
[01:44] <Ali_nz> how do I do a directory listing, with sizes of each folder inluding all files and sub dirs?
[01:44] <DVS01> curious to see how the job market is these days for sysadmins
[01:44] <carlosqueso> VivaVista...what exactly are you trying to do?
[01:44] <VivaVista> I downloaded tremulous and I need to update the tremulous file
[01:44] <VivaVista> I went to the tjw backport site and got the tremulous.exe
[01:44] <VivaVista> this was easy when I was on windows
[01:44] <VivaVista> -_-
[01:45] <foofish> Ali_nz: du
[01:45] <jaynty> Hello guys! I dont know if this is really the right channel because i'm also in ubuntu+1 but I have problems assgining static ip in Ubuntu Karmic Koala Beta
[01:45] <jaynty> anyone else?
[01:45] <Ali_nz> foofish: yeah, but thats lists the directory and each sub dir indivually
[01:45] <carlosqueso> VivaVista...you need the linux version...not the windows "exe" file
[01:46] <foofish> Ali_nz: how is that different from what you want?
[01:46] <Ali_nz> I want the total for say /home/user and everything under it as a total? if ya know what I mean
[01:46] <paul_s> kruykaze i am on that page, not sure what they mean about the installing ...
[01:46] <ZykoticK9> VivaVista, i'd strongly suggest trying to get the native linux version working over trying to get the windows .exe working in wine -- you'll get WAY better performance native
[01:46] <shades_aus> Anyone know why amarok won't play any files? I can't seem to find where to configure any output or plugins in this version for ubuntu 9.04
[01:46] <Ali_nz> du -c?
[01:46] <fccf> jaynty: > #ubuntu+1
[01:46] <foofish> Ali_nz: du -s /home/user
[01:46] <myron> vivavista:  or you can install wine and try to run the .exe file
[01:46] <kruykaze> paul_s, sorry what?
[01:46] <carlosqueso> VivaVista...then all you need to do is double-click the file, and it sholuld install
[01:46] <VivaVista> I am using the Linux version
[01:46] <foofish> Ali_nz: i often use du -shc
[01:47] <kruykaze> paul_s, oh you donno how to add a ppa?
[01:47] <jaynty> fccf: yes I told you I am already there
[01:47] <Cyberworm> gnargh
[01:47] <VivaVista> I got the game through the add/remove
[01:47] <Cyberworm> nothing works
[01:47] <carlosqueso> ViaVista...then are you trying to upgrade?
[01:47] <foofish> Cyberworm: bummer
[01:47] <VivaVista> Yes I am trying to upgrade a component of the game
[01:47] <paul_s> nope :)
[01:47] <VivaVista> and in order to do that I think I have to replace a file
[01:47] <ZykoticK9> VivaVista, then that .exe you where mentioning if for the windows version!  .exe are NOT native to linux
[01:48] <Cyberworm> I think Ubuntu isn't 'starting' my graphics card properly
[01:48] <vgambit> funkyHat, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop doesn't work
[01:48] <genewitch> How do i determine what mouse driver Ubuntu Edgy is using so that i can tell ubuntu 9.04 or later to use that driver?
[01:48] <kruykaze> click on read about installing paul_s
[01:48] <Ali_nz> foofish: its coming up with zero, even tho I know its not
[01:48] <vgambit> E: Couldn't find package
[01:48] <myron> vivavista: I don't think we understand exactly what you are trying to do. Do you want to copy a file.... you mentioned something about copying above and running sudo -i
[01:48] <paul_s> kruykaze: ok
[01:48] <Ali_nz> foofish: its on a linux based NAS
[01:48] <Cyberworm> when I boot Windows before restarting with Ubuntu, everything works fine. Nice performance etc.
[01:48] <kruykaze> paul_s, follow instructions and have fun
[01:48] <tylert> carlosqueso:  do you know how to make it so that a program if closed will reopen after say 2 seconds?
[01:49] <Cyberworm> but when I boot Ubuntu right away there is a ~50% performance drop
[01:49] <carlosqueso> tylert...nope..sorry...maybe someone else does
[01:49] <weida> Quick question, I am new to Ubuntu can i install the netbook remix interface on my 9.04 64bit? I am new to linux.
[01:49] <carlosqueso> vgambit...are you connected to the internet?
[01:49] <weida> yes
[01:49] <foofish> Ali_nz: that's pretty crazy
[01:49] <vgambit> I plugged in an ethernet cable and rebooted
[01:49] <vgambit> but I can't tell if I'm actually online
[01:49] <foofish> Ali_nz: write a perl script to do the addition from the du output, then :P
[01:49] <paul_s> ok thx :)
[01:49] <usser_> tylert, run it in a script like so http://pastebin.com/m9c39014
[01:49] <myron> cyberworm: what graphics card do you have and is this a fresh install of ubuntu?
[01:50] <vgambit> I selected "set up networking later" thinking I'd be able to do so in a gui lol
[01:50] <Cyberworm> mobility radeon hd 2600
[01:50] <Cyberworm> and no
[01:50] <carlosqueso> vgambit..try ifconfig
[01:50] <Ali_nz> foofish: it looks like it lists /home/a then /home/b then /home/c but at the end gives a total for /home
[01:50] <tylert> usser_:  does that run in a terminal like file
[01:50] <carlosqueso> if you see an ip address, you're connected
[01:50] <myron> have you tried envy to auto configure your card?
[01:51] <myron> cyberworm ^
[01:51] <Cyberworm> yes
[01:51] <usser_> tylert, yes its a bash script, but you create a launcher for it on the desktop if you like
[01:51] <Cyberworm> that was the last thing I tried
[01:51] <VivaVista> ok I found another file
[01:51] <bazhang> vgambit, open a terminal and type ifconfig do you see eth0
[01:51] <VivaVista> its called
[01:51] <vgambit> nope
[01:51] <VivaVista> tremulous.x86.asc
[01:51] <VivaVista> I opened it and it has this
[01:51] <ZykoticK9> weida, theoretically (I've not tried this) "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-netbook-remix" will give the UNR interface to any Ubuntu.  Good luck (again -- i haven't tried this, use at own risk)
[01:51] <bazhang> vgambit, just lo?
[01:52] <vgambit> just lo
[01:52] <genewitch> vgambit: ifconfig eth0 up
[01:52] <weida> ZykoticK9 thanks
[01:52] <genewitch> assuming the cable/NIC is working that should get you an ip and everything
[01:52] <burntresistor> i bought a new cpu and motherboard im guessing im going to have to reformat my harddrives i would have had to with windows is it still necessary for linux?
[01:52] <bazhang> VivaVista, install tremulous from the repos
[01:52] <VivaVista> I did
[01:52] <vgambit> ok now I get eth0 but it's still not online
[01:52] <Cyberworm> I tried everything
[01:52] <Cyberworm> installing driver via "hardware drivers"
[01:52] <Cyberworm> installing the driver manually
[01:52] <Cyberworm> using envyng
[01:52] <carlosqueso> burntresistor.....I don't believe so....try booting
[01:52] <FloodBot2> Cyberworm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:53] <needhelp> burntresistor, you don't need to reformat hard disks to get new hardware to work
[01:53] <VivaVista> The installation is not the problem, trem works fine
[01:53] <VivaVista> but in order to update it
[01:53] <bastidrazor> burntresistor: technically no. you should be able to just install drivers and go
[01:53] <usser_> burntresistor, no. linux has all drivers in  the kernel and loads the ones that are needed on startup
[01:53] <VivaVista> I need to download some file from here
[01:53] <Guest92207> Hellow
[01:53] <burntresistor> sweet
[01:53] <VivaVista> http://tremulous.tjw.org/backport/linux/
[01:53] <Ali_nz> how would I work out what falvour of linux this nas is running?
[01:53] <Guest92207> hi
[01:53] <bazhang> VivaVista, you wish to install a version from outside the repos then
[01:54] <genewitch> Ali_nz: can you get a terminal on it?
[01:54] <Guest92207>  I have a gnome issue can any assist me?
[01:54] <foofish> Ali_nz: uname -ar for a start
[01:54] <Guest92207> Larry
[01:54] <needhelp> guest92207 what's your problem
[01:54] <bazhang> Guest92207, ask a question
[01:54] <VivaVista> Its some typhmm
[01:54] <myron> vivavista: so I am assuming that an older version of that file is already on your system?
[01:54] <VivaVista> Yes
[01:54] <VivaVista> I guess Tremulous has a patch out
[01:54] <Cyberworm> I could try reinstalling Ubuntu
[01:55] <Cyberworm> but I don't know if I have the nerves for that
[01:55] <vgambit> http://www.sourceguru.net/setting-up-networking-on-an-ubuntu-server/
[01:55] <VivaVista> I'll try finding the Trem IRC channel
[01:55] <vgambit> followed that and now I get a ping back from google
[01:55] <vgambit> thanks all the same
[01:55] <paul_s> hmmm ---W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0
[01:55] <carlosqueso> vgambit....great! now you should be able to install ubuntu-desktop
[01:55] <ZykoticK9> VivaVista, what is the packport for tremulous for?  why do you need it?
[01:55] <paul_s> was it me?
[01:55] <Guest92207> I got a OAFIID:Gnome FastUSuser error
[01:55] <shades_aus> Anyone have any ideas on getting my DVI to work under ATi x800 for Ubuntu 9.04
[01:55] <VivaVista> When I run tremulous , any time i enter a game
[01:56] <vgambit> ... it's pinging 50 biillion times
[01:56] <vgambit> billion*
[01:56] <VivaVista> I get a warning to install an updated version from that site
[01:56] <bazhang> vgambit, hit control c
[01:56] <VivaVista> Wait let me get the exact quote
[01:56] <iaindalton> When I try to install sun-java6-plugin, it wants to uninstall sun-java6-jdk. How can I have both?
[01:56] <vgambit> thanks
[01:56] <dai1313> tremulous irc is on Quakenet
[01:56] <vgambit> still couldn't find package
[01:56] <kruykaze> paul_s, you need to add the key
[01:56] <bazhang> !ppagpg | paul_s
[01:56] <needhelp> ianindalton: just use sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugiin
[01:56] <needhelp> plugin*
[01:56] <Cyberworm> wait, I think I even tried reinstalling Ubuntu once, but that didn't help
[01:57] <myron> vivavista: open terminal, type locate file.x86 and then use sudo cp to copy the new file to the place of the old file. I would make a backup first though...
[01:57] <iaindalton> needhelp: Like I said, when I try to do that, it wants to uninstall the JDK.
[01:57] <carlosqueso> vgambit...you need to run sudo apt-get update first
[01:57] <Guest92207> I am running Ubuntu 8.10
[01:57] <ZykoticK9> VivaVista, "apt-cache policy tremulous" suggests it's installing 1.1.0-4 and the version available on the website is 1.1.0?  They seem like the same version?
[01:57] <needhelp> iaindalton I'm sure it has reason to uninstall it.
[01:57] <vgambit> carlosqueso, I started a reboot already, but I'll try that when I get back in
[01:58] <iceblueirish> hello?
[01:58] <iaindalton> needhelp: maybe so, but I'd like the retain the ability to compile Java. Can I do that without the JDK?
[01:58] <Guest92207> any advice?
[01:58] <paul_s> i did two adds and they are in the list with check marks
[01:58] <usser_> iaindalton, its probably an error in package dependencies. There's no reason plugin should prefer jre over jdk. which version of ubuntu is that?
[01:58] <iceblueirish> looking to install java for Runescape...
[01:58] <iceblueirish> any help?
[01:58] <iaindalton> usser_: 9.04
[01:58] <needhelp> jdk needs jre
[01:58] <bazhang> paul_s, check the link I gave you
[01:58] <usser_> iaindalton, lemme see
[01:58] <hunger__> Hi everyone, does anyone know if audio over HDMI was put back in 9.10?  I found some bug reports for HDMI audio in 9.10 but I have no idea where/how to configure it.  I don't see any switches for the IECxxx (I don't recall the numbers, 985?)
[01:58] <kruykaze> paul_s, did you ad the key though
[01:58] <VivaVista> ok here is what it says
[01:58] <Guest92207> foofish u there?
[01:58] <bazhang> hunger__, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[01:59] <VivaVista> Your Client if out of date. Download an updated client to become an admin or download maps quickly
[01:59] <carlosqueso> !java | iceblueirish
[01:59] <paul_s> yes
[01:59] <hunger__> bazhang oh, thanks :D
[01:59] <vgambit> it's updating!
[01:59] <ZykoticK9> VivaVista, see my note above regarding the versions?
[01:59] <VivaVista> No let me check
[01:59] <carlosqueso> vgambit: yup...will probably take a little while since it's pulling all the repos
[01:59] <dai1313> mmkay, i need help... i recently upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and i lost my virtual terminals(the control alt f1 thing)
[01:59] <usser_> iaindalton, well can you do something like sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jdk
[02:00] <bazhang> dai1313, karmic support in #ubuntu+1
[02:00] <usser_> iaindalton, cause your problem doesnt happen on my 9.04 over here
[02:00] <ZykoticK9> VivaVista, I'm downloading Tremulous now to see it first hand aswell
[02:00] <myron> cyberworm: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=570391
[02:00] <Guest92207> Can anyone help with this error: OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet?
[02:01] <VivaVista> If you join most of the servers its the first red text messages you see on the console
[02:01] <paul_s> more errors ,Ubuntu Codes of Conduct could not be opened?
[02:01] <zebastian> anyone here uses lxde?
[02:01] <iaindalton> usser_: aptitude reports: sun-java6-plugin: Depends: sun-java6-bin (= 6-13-1) but 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04 is installed.
[02:01] <paul_s> i gotta sign something?
[02:01] <u0606465> hi, i want to buy an external hard disk drive to use as additional storage space fro my linux 9.04. which external hard drive is the best ?.. I also want to use the same external hard drive to plug into a windows OS and transfer data to Windows OS. which external hard drive brand or product is the best ?
[02:01] <Guest92207> foofish u there?
[02:01] <iaindalton> usser_: what version do you have?
[02:01] <usser_> iaindalton, you packages are out of date, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[02:01] <pilif12p> u0606465: All that use USB should work.
[02:02] <shades_aus> Going to try updating to ubuntu 9.10
[02:02] <bazhang> u0606465, check the hcl, most will work
[02:02] <usser_> iaindalton, -16
[02:02] <pilif12p> I bought a $20 one and it works fine
[02:02] <bazhang> !hcl | u0606465
[02:02] <usser_> iaindalton, thats the latest one
[02:02] <carlosqueso> paul_s: nope, not unless you want to be deeply involved with the project
[02:02] <carlosqueso> development and such
[02:03] <iaindalton> usser_: that's what I have. It wants to downgrade jre and uninstall jdk. Updating didn't change anything.
[02:03] <Cyberworm> myron, thanks, I'll try that
[02:03] <bazhang> zebastian, some do yes; please ask a more specific question
[02:03] <usser_> iaindalton, let me do a clean install of java over here
[02:03] <usser_> iaindalton, might take a while im on a dsl
[02:03] <myron> cyberworm: no problem
 can i take it that all external hard drives that use usb2.0 should work ?
[02:04] <Cyberworm> but the problem is, I do have the drivers
[02:04] <Cyberworm> and they are working
[02:04] <zebastian> bazhang: i need help getting compiz to autoload on login on lxde
[02:04] <Cyberworm> but they are not working that well without booting windows first
[02:04] <genewitch> u0606465: any modern usb 2.0 external enclosure should work fine.
[02:04] <iaindalton> usser_: If you did apt-get update, how would a reinstall change things? I don't understand the inner workings of apt so it might, but...
[02:04] <paul_s> what is a ppa? is there something in windows like it?
[02:04] <paul_s> not stupid but this looks hard
[02:04] <usser_> iaindalton, no not reinstall another box without java :)
[02:05] <bazhang> paul_s, a personal package archive, made for stuff outside the repos
[02:05] <bazhang> paul_s, all you need to do is add the key
[02:05] <paul_s> i pasted and added twice, is that what you mean?
[02:05] <usser_> iaindalton, nvm here http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=sun-java6-bin
[02:06] <usser_> iaindalton, make sure you have updates repository enabled, java-16 is from there
[02:06] <u0606465> i read that seagate freeagent external hard disk spins down after a while, therefore it becomes read only to linux system... is there any way to solve this problem
[02:06] <bazhang> zebastian, no idea about that as I dont use compiz, you may also to leave a line in #compiz
[02:06] <myron> cyberworm: when you say without booting windows first, are you running ubuntu as a virtual machine?
[02:07] <myron> cyberworm: or do you have a dual boot setup?
[02:07] <usser_> iaindalton, it looks like your java-plugin is from standard repo but java6-bin is from updates repo
[02:07] <Cyberworm> dual boot
[02:07] <kilo> ok! so creating a second xscreen definitely solved the WoW issue!!
[02:07] <Harrison_Bergero> need some help with xsensors
[02:07] <iaindalton> Hmm, I have updates enabled
[02:07] <Cyberworm> I have to boot Ubuntu by booting Windows first, then restarting and booting Ubuntu, to get 100% performance
[02:07] <Harrison_Bergero> seems im only getting temp1 and 2
[02:07] <VivaVista> So any luck
[02:07] <myron> cyberworm: so you are saying that the card works better when you boot windows, shut it down and then boot ubuntu
[02:07] <Harrison_Bergero> and not the vcore temps
[02:07] <usser_> iaindalton, if you have updates repo enabled you can open synaptic click on the sun-java6-plugin and in properties pick which repo to install from
[02:07] <Harrison_Bergero> how do i add them?
[02:07] <kilo> and I have two operating screens! wohoo!!
[02:07] <kilo> (while playing that is)
[02:08] <usser_> iaindalton, something weird is going on with your repos there
[02:08] <Cyberworm> myron, yes
[02:08] <mynyml> screw silverlight
[02:08] <kilo> only problem is that compiz doesn't want to create a cube on the second xscreen   :(:(   so I'm stuck with a 2D desktop
[02:09] <iaindalton> only 6-13-1 is available
[02:09] <mynyml> is it supposed to work on linux at all anyway?
[02:09] <pilif12p> mynyml: I second that
[02:09] <iaindalton> Yeah; that's weird
[02:09] <usser_> mynyml, yes theres limited support
[02:09] <kilo> I've been reading online and everyone makes it sound so easy, but compiz doesn't recognize it.... any ideas?
[02:09] <genewitch> my laptop's touchpad doesn't work on 9.04 (or 8.10, 8.04, etc) but DOES work on 6.10; how do i make it work in the newer releases?
[02:09] <mynyml> usser_: i wanna watch a live stream, i guess there's no way?
[02:09] <usser_> iaindalton, yes strange indeed, maybe your local update mirror went under, where you pulling updates from. can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:09] <meatbun> http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/motel268/ide_to_sata.JPG   <-- i bought one of these. but IDE hard drive does not work. any ideas?
[02:10] <Steil> genewitch whagt kind of touchpad you have?
[02:10] <usser_> !moonlight | mynyml
[02:10] <usser_> mynyml, http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight
[02:10] <genewitch> Steil: synaptics i believe, but how do i tell for sure?
[02:10] <mynyml> *sigh*
[02:10] <kilo> Anyone know why compiz wouldn't create a second cube ona second xscreen?
[02:10]  * mynyml is booting virtualbox xp =/
[02:11] <genewitch> kilo: does compiz imply that it would do that, somewhere?
[02:11] <kilo> ya, it's all over google
[02:11] <jm2> #join ubuntu-chicago
[02:11] <logicport> any good known reason why my 9.04 install runs alot slower than my 8 did
[02:11] <iaindalton> usser_: pasted at http://paste.lisp.org/display/88452
[02:11] <usser_> logicport, ati drivers?
[02:11] <kilo> genewitch: unfortunately, following all their steps doesn't yield the same results for me... I only get a 2-sided cube
[02:11] <iaindalton> I have jaunty-updates multiverse which is where the newer version is
[02:11] <logicport> probs
[02:12] <kilo> genewitch: more like a plane... lol
[02:12] <logicport> how could i fix it
[02:12] <iaindalton> I should check the output of aptitude update
[02:12] <fccf> jm2: thats /join #ubuntu-chicago
[02:12] <myron> cyberworm: that doesn't make any since at all. when a computer is rebooted, it clears all of the cache that is stored in the RAM. It would also clear the cache of your video card. Its like you are starting out with a blank slate on both...
[02:12] <carlosqueso> logicport: do you have an older ati graphics card
[02:12] <iaindalton> Hit
[02:12] <logicport> yes
[02:12] <logicport> sony vaio vgn-n11h is my laptop
[02:13] <AlDoug_> What happened to GRUB boot loader in 9.10? I can't find /boot/grub/menu.lst !
[02:13] <paul_s> ok did everything in that link
[02:13] <carlosqueso> logicport...it's probably running slower because it's using the open-source driver instead of the ati-made one
[02:13] <paul_s> You're now ready to install software from the PPA!
[02:13] <paul_s> and how ?
[02:13] <logicport> hmmmm ok
[02:13] <logicport> is there anything i can do
[02:14] <carlosqueso> paul_s: just the same way that you install from any other repository
[02:14] <usser_> iaindalton, ok i dont want to mess anything up, since you have quite a system there, but try switching jaunty-updates multiverse from colorado mirror to a us mirror. in fact try switching all mirrors from colorado to us.ubuntu.com
[02:14] <carlosqueso> sudo apt-get install <package name>
[02:14] <paul_s> synaptic?
[02:14] <usser_> iaindalton, thats my mirror deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates multiverse
[02:14] <logicport> also using cairo dock which brings error message about opengl, press yes nd the transparency is blacked out, press no and it works ok
[02:14] <logicport> but slow
[02:15] <carlosqueso> paul_s: I'm not sure....I don't use synaptic....i use the apt-get on the command line
[02:15] <Cyberworm> myron, I know that it doesn't make sense, but it's just how it is :-/. Maybe I should note that I'm using a notebook. Maybe it's a PowrePlay problem
[02:15] <solor> i guess they are the same theory
[02:15] <paul_s> so sudo atp-get install wine?
[02:15] <carlosqueso> logicport: I've noticed the same problems...the ati driver is okay...but SLOOOW and makes my CPU generate a lot of heat
[02:15] <kilo> anyone else have a suggestion? I am running two x screens, one works perfectly, but the other only gives me 2 desktops in Compiz Cube... I'd like 4. Anyone know how I can change this?
[02:15] <ekontsevoy> I have a simple question about /etc/fstab: http://pastie.org/649148
[02:15] <myron> cyberworm: what are you seeing that tells you that your graphics card is functioning better when you run windows first?
[02:15] <carlosqueso> paul_s yeppers
[02:16] <Cyberworm> fps from glxgears (ya I know...) and fps from several games
[02:16] <ZykoticK9> VivaVista, you still there?  so after swapping the bin files with update - it's gets me to a "couldn't load default.cfg" and the game doesn't start :( -- i'd seriously recommend just living with the error message -- do you want me to pastbin the instructions that got me to that error?
[02:16] <myron> cyberworm: what brand notebook is it?
[02:16] <paul_s> hmmm, command not found
[02:16] <Cyberworm> Toshiba
[02:16] <VivaVista> hmm
[02:16] <iaindalton> usser_: that fixes it. The mirror must be out of date.
[02:16] <VivaVista> Yeah if it helps
[02:16] <Cyberworm> also gnome works better
[02:16] <VivaVista> I noticed it because
[02:16] <usser_> iaindalton, yep must have been that
[02:16] <kolby> hello
[02:17] <jm2> Aldoug - type locate menu.lst - mine is ins /usr/share/doc/mentest86+/examples is this what u are looking for?
[02:17] <iaindalton> usser_: Thank you sir.
[02:17] <genewitch> kilo: there's two distinct cubes in total? there's probably a different command to rotate the other cube, i'm not finding anything on google, sorry
[02:17] <ttreake> is there a way to manage ubuntu without 2 thick panels taking up precious screen height?
[02:17] <VivaVista> I won't mind but I would hate downloading maps at 2KB/s
[02:17] <usser_> iaindalton, no problem
[02:17] <paul_s> got it, thx guys
[02:17] <kilo> genewitch: I can rotate it. but it only has two sides   ;)
[02:17] <bazhang> kilo, a cube with only two sides?
[02:17] <VivaVista> Either way, thanks for the help
[02:17] <kilo> genewitch: I'm wanting to increase the number of desktops on the second cube
[02:17] <genewitch> that's a settingyou want h-size=4
[02:18] <kolby> how do you get the cube?
[02:18] <kilo> bazhang: I know... contradiction in terms, huh?   :P
[02:18] <ZykoticK9> VivaVista, http://paste.ubuntu.com/289727/  there ya go
[02:18] <LjL> ttreake: sure, remove one,
[02:18] <myron> Cyberworm: Is the factory os still installed, or did you format the entire hdd?
[02:18] <kilo> genewitch: where can I set that?
[02:18] <bazhang> kilo, enter ccsm and set virtual horizontal (under general) to 4
[02:18] <Cyberworm> I formatted the entire hdd. There was Vista pre-installed and I don't like Vista :-/
[02:18] <genewitch> kilo: ccsm
[02:19] <ttreake> LjL, that would be a great solution except all of the things on one panel wont fit on the other.
[02:19] <kilo> how do I access that? (sorry... really really new to ubuntu)
[02:19] <Templar_Xion> After doing a force quit via the gui on an app and attempting sudo kill (pid) the app is still running in top... :(
[02:19] <genewitch> ahh bazhang you got to it before me :-)
[02:19] <bazhang> genewitch, :)
[02:19] <LjL> ttreake: why not. they'll be a bit more crammed, but they'll fit just fine.
[02:19] <kilo> hahaha
[02:19] <Harrison_Bergero> sensors anyone?
[02:19] <Harrison_Bergero> I need help with sensors
[02:19] <LjL> ttreake: unless of course you've added a ton of additional stuff, in which case, eh.
[02:19] <bazhang> kilo, is it installed? in your system preferences menu its called compizconfig settings managers
[02:19] <Harrison_Bergero> xsensors to be exact but ill use any app that will work
[02:20] <Templar_Xion> After doing a force quit via the gui on an app and attempting sudo kill (pid) the app is still running in top. What else can you do to kill an app? It's a gui app that is no longer visible, but the memory is still taken up.
[02:20] <Harrison_Bergero> i only have temp1 and temp2 showing
[02:20] <iaindalton> ttreake: You can also use a more "Windows"-like start menu instead of the wide 3 menus.
[02:20] <LjL> ttreake: you could alo set one or both panels to auto-hide
[02:20] <Harrison_Bergero> how do get core0 and core1 to show
[02:20] <AlDoug_> jm2 that doesn't look like the right one
[02:20] <kilo> bazhang: oh yes, sorry, I'm in there now. it is set to 4
[02:20] <myron> cyberworm: have you tried installing ubuntu only? I have an hp notebook dualbooting with great luck. I actually think ubuntu runs smoother on it than windows xp.....
[02:20] <Harrison_Bergero> !sensors
[02:20] <kilo> bazhang: like I said.... one of them is working fine, but the other has only 2 sides.
[02:21] <rgov1> I'd like to host a samba share; is there a how-to online? I've been Googling to little success.
[02:21] <ZykoticK9> Templar_Xion, let me introduce you to "kill -9 PID"
[02:21] <bazhang> kilo, one of them? is this dual screen, or some weird new compiz plugin
[02:21] <Templar_Xion> ZykoticK9, woot, now to man page to see what that does
[02:21] <VivaVista> Thanks ZykoticK9
[02:21] <ttreake> LjL, is the auto-hide feature called "auto-hide"?
[02:21] <genewitch> rgov1: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO.html
[02:21] <ZykoticK9> VivaVista, remember - if you follow that your game won't run!!!
[02:21] <Cyberworm> myron, no I haven't. It's my only computer and I'm mostly using it for playing games. But I do plan to remove Windows once I got a new desktop
[02:21] <paul_s> 1 other thing, what would have happened if i had went straight to sudo apt-get install wine?
[02:21] <AlDoug_> jm2 it says it's a sample
[02:21] <LjL> ttreake: don't remember. i use KDE myself.
[02:21] <Moodles> when 9.10 is ready, will it be available as a free cd request on the ubuntu shipit page?
[02:21] <paul_s> out of date?
[02:22] <ttreake> anyone want to tell me where I can find the auto-hide feature?
[02:22] <bazhang> paul_s, you would have gotten an older version than the wine repos provides
[02:22] <kilo> bazhang: I have 2 xscreens running offa one rig. I'd like 2 seperate cubes... for some reason, when I modify the horizontal setting, it only affects the "screen 0"
[02:22] <rgov1> genewitch:  thanks i'll check into it
[02:22] <Templar_Xion> ZykoticK9, I see that -9 is sorta like a kill all but the man page doesn't describe what it does
[02:22] <paul_s> i see
[02:22] <ZykoticK9> Templar_Xion, you can also use "killall -9 nameofapp"
[02:22] <genewitch> rgov1: you have to run two servers (one is a nameserver the other is the actual samba server); configure them, and start them, and that's about it
[02:22] <LjL> ttreake: it's definitely going to be in the panel's options though.
[02:22] <Cyberworm> *sigh*
[02:22] <VivaVista> oh :(
[02:22] <iaindalton> ttreake: right click on panel; properties
[02:22] <Cyberworm> either I try reinstalling Ubuntu or I'll just have to live with that problem
[02:23] <bazhang> kilo, honestly, when I have such difficult questions, I ask in #compiz as they are the experts on such issues
[02:23] <ZykoticK9> Templar_Xion, regular kill sorta asks a process nicely to please stop, kill -9 doesn't ask - it just kills :)
[02:23] <kilo> bazhang: oh perfect! I'll head over there...
[02:23] <kilo> thanks all!!
[02:23] <Templar_Xion> ZykoticK9, Sweet. thanks for the difference.
[02:23] <ttreake> I've got too much crap on the panel. I cant find a bare space to right click on.
[02:24] <u0606465> is western digital a good external hard disk drive to use with linux 9.04 ?
[02:24] <ZykoticK9> Templar_Xion, there was a Nerdcore song on Youtube called "kill dash nine" < sorry OT I know
[02:24] <rgov1> genewitch:  there's no /etc/init.d entry for smb, i see?
[02:24] <bazhang> u0606465, did you check the hcl as I suggested?
[02:25] <jm2> aldoug - it is using grub 2 look for a file called grub.cfg.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[02:25] <iaindalton> ttreake: move or remove
[02:25] <Guest15917> I got a question for Evolution E-Mail Client... How do you minimize it to the Indicator tray, Not the task bar... and Also how do you have it send you a Notification when you receive a new E-Mail, A notification like you do when someone writes you with pigeon, or when you volume turns up and down...
[02:25] <myron> cyberworm: you mentioned that fps from a game indicated the problem with the graphics card drivers.... are you running it under wine or is it ported to linux?
[02:26] <tecky> anyone able to help me get ' readline -any '
[02:26] <tecky> i've tried both readline5 and readline6 and the -dev packages aswell
[02:26] <Templar_Xion> ZykoticK9, heh
[02:26] <u0606465> bazhang: oh yes i did check it, i looked at western digital and it had a review of 5.0 and no problems were reported with western digital external hard drive
[02:26] <ZykoticK9> Guest15917, i think you wait until 9.10, pretty sure some of your requests are implemented :)
[02:27] <Guest15917> ZykoticK9: I am using 9.10
[02:27] <Cyberworm> it's ported to linux. Okay it's not a big game, it's just Extreme Tucracer. But the fps difference is pretty huge (according to that fps display there)
[02:27] <Templar_Xion> ZykoticK9, happen to know a 'how to enable PAE on current kernel' site?
[02:27] <bazhang> u0606465, then you have your answer; ##hardware and #ubuntu-offtopic are good further avenues of exploration on hardware questions
[02:27] <genewitch> rgov: it's nmbd and smbd if memory serves
[02:27] <vgambit> this ubuntu-desktop package is taking pretty long to install
[02:27] <ZykoticK9> Guest15917, then post your same question in #ubuntu+1 you'll get better results :)  good luck.
[02:27] <Templar_Xion> vgambit, what is 'pretty long' and are you installing on anything special, ie raid / usb drive?
[02:27] <Guest15917> ZykoticK9: Thanks :)
[02:28] <genewitch> rgov: "To run the daemons from the system startup scripts, put the following script in file called /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb (for most distributions) and symbolically link it to the files specified in the comments: " re: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-5.html
[02:28] <vgambit> it's been going maybe 5 minutes now after the download ended, and no
[02:28] <vgambit> just a regular pata drive
[02:28] <tecky> anyone able to help me get ' readline -any ' (i've tried readline5/6 and the -dev packages aswell)
[02:28] <jm2> guest15917  - is this link what u are looking for? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=611254
[02:29] <kilo> wow, there is no one alive in the compiz channel
[02:29] <Guest15917> #ubuntu+1
[02:29] <myron> cyberworm: I have had problems with tuxracer too. alot of the linux games aren't polished, they do have problems. If you want to use it as a gaming PC, try running windows games under wine.
[02:30] <Cyberworm> I can't even get Steam to install under wine :-/
[02:31] <carlosqueso> hey...has anybody managed to get netlix to work?  I used the user-agent-switcher to convince it that I was using windows, and installed moonlight...but it doesn't like my silverlight version
[02:31] <ssorel> hi!
[02:31] <genewitch> Cyberworm: it is possible to get steam running fine under wine, though.
[02:32] <rgov> genewitch:  i pasted that but for instance /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions (nor /etc/init.d/functions) doesnt exist
[02:32] <ZykoticK9> Cyberworm, you might want to look into "PlayOnLinux" they've got Steam in there list...
[02:32] <genewitch> Cyberworm: there are guides that explain what to do, although by now they're probably really outdated and for the beta/pre-RC versions of wine (like 0.97)
[02:33] <Harrison_Bergero> ok sensors running
[02:33] <Harrison_Bergero> does anyone here have the jaunty freeze problem....where the mouse still works but nothing else?
[02:33] <Harrison_Bergero> its a random freeze that happens every so often
[02:34] <Cyberworm> thanks
[02:34] <Harrison_Bergero> damn annoying too
[02:34] <genewitch> rgov: they may not exist but did you try rebooting after doing the symlinks per the instructions?
[02:35] <genewitch> rgov: i don't have any idea how init.d and rc.d work :-(
[02:35] <PlasmaSheep> Is there a way to embed a gnuplot chart into my desktop?
[02:36] <sabat> how can I probe[maybe not the right term] a partition to see what fs it is?
[02:37] <genewitch> rgov: oh, evidently i led you astray. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[02:37] <ZykoticK9> Harrison_Bergero, "usually" if your mouse still moves you can use CTRL+ALT+F1 to get to a console, where you can log in an run "top" to see if a particular program is hung.  Alternatively you could restart GDM from the terminal with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart".
[02:37] <sabat> got my hands on an old server, doesn't boot. but I got it booted off a ubuntu live install.
[02:37] <Cyberworm> well, I better start backupping my files if I want to reinstall Ubuntu
[02:38] <sabat> fdisk -a tells me types, but not what fs is on them
[02:38] <sabat> err, fdisk -l
[02:39] <sabat> I am kindof assuming it might have a raid, altho to be honest I didn't actually open the case yet, seeing that it's missing the key.[that's going to be a project in itself]
[02:39] <genewitch> sabat: if it's a hardware raid that's transparent to the OS, regardless of the OS
[02:40] <genewitch> sabat: also it would tell you that while booting. if it's a software raid - good luck, you need to know what OS was originally on it and how it was raided to get the info back off.
[02:41] <visik7> hi
[02:41] <ZykoticK9> sabat, genewitch i wish RAID was totally transparent to the OS - it isn't though.  your os needs the drivers to talk to any raid cards -- ubuntu desktop live cd, is not ideal for that i'd think.  perhaps the alternate cd, or server would be more appropriate.
[02:41] <visik7> are there ubuntu certified laptop ?
[02:42] <genewitch> ZykoticK9: if the raid card is a real raid card, the HDD shouldn't show up as like sda and sdb in linux
[02:42] <ZykoticK9> visik7, Ubuntu doesn't "certify" hardware the same way Microsoft does -- it just tries to support as much hw as possible :)
[02:42] <genewitch> ZykoticK9: IE he couldn't fdisk the individual disks.
[02:43] <ZykoticK9> genewitch, I'm not entirely sure...
[02:43] <DigitalKiwi> dell sells computers with ubuntu, they usually work pretty well
[02:43] <jm2> would the mount -a command help sabat??
[02:43] <ransom> hey guys, i having trouble loading the karmic beta on my eee pc 701.  It will load all the way until GDM should pop up, and all i get is a mouse cursor and nothing else.
[02:44] <ZykoticK9> DigitalKiwi, visik7 as a former Dell employee, unless you want to talk to India - don't buy a Dell...
[02:44] <meowbang> whats better to get for a conky file say for ubuntu a .tar.gz file or a .tar.bz2
[02:44] <ransom> some other people have had this error, but i haven't found a solution yet. http://bit.ly/hx1MV
[02:44] <visik7> ZykoticK9:  I was just look for a dell, why this ?
[02:44] <PlasmaSheep> meowbang: .tar.gz offers greater compression, but it really doesn't matter
[02:45] <meowbang> oh thanks
[02:45] <PlasmaSheep> meowbang: since you'll be uncompressing them later
[02:45] <ZykoticK9> visik7, oh buy a Dell if you want too!!!  pretty much all support now will be coming from India though :(
[02:45] <tsimpson> isn't bz2 the better compression, at the expense of speed
[02:45] <DigitalKiwi> I like my dell :(
[02:45] <visik7> ZykoticK9: do you know some laptop vendor that are linux friendly ? asus aver hp and toshiba are not there is always something that doesn't work sometimes the acpi sometime buttons sometimes audio ecc...
[02:45] <jm2> anyone do ppp connections through a modem to another compuer. Not the internet.
[02:45] <PlasmaSheep> tsimpson: you're right, that's whit I get for multitasking =/
[02:45] <DigitalKiwi> lenova are pretty good I think
[02:45] <PlasmaSheep> *what
[02:45] <sabat> jm2: ty, somehow the -a command missed me
[02:46] <DigitalKiwi> or however it is spelled
[02:46] <DigitalKiwi> lenovo ?
[02:46] <visik7> ZykoticK9: dell is the only vendor who build machines that allow to run ubuntu without so much trouble
[02:46] <ZykoticK9> visik7, i use an eee netbook and use to use IBM laptops -- i've never had problems...  but i don't have any hw suggestions.
[02:47] <MenZa> ZykoticK9: If you're in the US, have a look at System76.
[02:47] <DigitalKiwi> but really most laptops should work fine with linux, the problems usually are with the specific video/wireless chipsets
[02:47] <DigitalKiwi> get nvidia graphics and intel wireless for optimal performance/minimal pita
[02:47] <ZykoticK9> visik7, true - I'm very well aware of Dell's Ubuntu support - wasn't around when it was rolled out, but knew many of the people involved
[02:47] <kermit> are there any utilities to manage /etc/rc*.d/ ?
[02:47] <DigitalKiwi> is my opinion
[02:47] <ZykoticK9> visik7, see MenZa System76 suggestion?
[02:48] <maco> kermit: chkconfig works just like in centos/rhel
[02:48] <visik7> ZykoticK9: I mean even on laptops that doesn't come out with ubuntu preinstalled
[02:48] <maco> visik7: my laptop came from zareason.com with ubuntu preinstalled. also, my roommate (former ubuntu core dev) swears by hp
[02:48] <kermit> maco: thats not installed by default.. is there any that i'm "supposed" to use?
[02:48] <ZykoticK9> visik7, sorry man - i use netbook instead of laptops now
[02:48] <DigitalKiwi> i've heard hp support is worse than dells
[02:49] <visik7> bad support for what guys ?!
[02:49] <DigitalKiwi> technical support
[02:49] <maco> kermit: by default itd just be adding and removing symlinks. update-rc.d exists, but its really meant to be used by maintainer scripts in packages, not by people
[02:49] <visik7> hp support at least here in italy is really bad
[02:49] <AlDoug_> jm2 thanks, i'll have to study that.
[02:49] <ZykoticK9> sorry my fault -- but this who has better support is OT for this channel
[02:49] <visik7> but Dell support is awesome they came in 1 work day and repair a laptop within 2 hours
[02:50] <Cyberworm> wow
[02:50] <Cyberworm> PlayOnLinux works great
[02:50] <Peddy> How can I limit the output of a command to 30 characters?
[02:50] <shawn_> Is there anyway To add a Hotmail account to Thunderbird?
[02:50] <alchamech> what games work on ubuntu?.........mmorpg
[02:50] <visik7> Peddy:  |head -n 30
[02:50] <visik7> shawn_:  freepops
[02:50] <shawn_> visik7 Pardon?
[02:50] <zebastian> what's mythtv and can i use it on ubuntu on my laptop? is it like an app that allows you to watch tv on your computer?
[02:50] <kermit> maco: heh it's man page recommends using bum, which doestn really do it
[02:50] <Barx> hi, I have installed open suse as a secondary partition, but I don't want it anymore, How do I remove it not trashing ubuntu?
[02:51] <bslapmeufool> You can fist it. Fist it real good.
[02:51] <DigitalKiwi> !info mythtv
[02:51] <visik7> shawn_: freepops is a program that allow you to access webmail via pop3 but hotmail has pop3 support IIRC
[02:51] <myron> cyberworm: does it seem to make your graphics card function better?
[02:51] <kermit> maco: 'or editing the links directly'... i guess i'll go with chkconfig
[02:51] <Cyberworm> no
[02:51] <shawn_> visik7 How do I configure it I cant find a guide like on Gmail
[02:51] <Cyberworm> but it managed to install Steam
[02:51] <Cyberworm> Steam won't update though
[02:51] <alchamech> listen i dont have time for this...... what works on ubuntu mmorpg
[02:51] <maco> !ohmy | bslapmeufool
[02:51] <visik7> shawn_: never used hotmail in my life
[02:51] <ransom> hey guys, i having trouble loading the karmic beta on my eee pc 701.  It will load all the way until GDM should pop up, and all i get is a mouse cursor and nothing else.
[02:52] <maco> !ubuntu+1 | ransom
[02:52] <ZykoticK9> ransom, ask in #ubuntu+1 instead
[02:52] <DigitalKiwi> alchamech: wow works in wine
[02:52] <ransom> thanks maco, zykotickK9
[02:52] <bslapmeufool> !ohmy | bslapmeufool
[02:52] <ransom> join #ubuntu+1
[02:52] <Peddy> visik7, that limits output to a certain amount of lines (-n lines). I'm looking to do the number of *characters*... I don't think head can do that. Is there another way?
[02:53] <PlasmaSheep> Is there a way to embed a gnuplot chart into my desktop?
[02:53] <bslapmeufool> !ohmy | ubottu
[02:53] <ZykoticK9> PlasmaSheep, i highly doubt it
[02:53] <Guest96050> hi, im trying to get a liveusb with persistent changes since im having HDD problems :s
[02:53] <visik7> Peddy: yeah -c
[02:53] <logicport> mentioned earlier about system going slower, some recommended something to do with ati
[02:53] <PlasmaSheep> ZykoticK9: that's too bad, trying to sorta duplicate http://lifehacker.com/5271632/the-os-x-alpha-geek-desktop
[02:53] <logicport> turns out im running
[02:53] <bslapmeufool> !ohmy maco
[02:53] <logicport> intel
[02:54] <maco> bslapmeufool: stop it with the bot abuse!
[02:54] <Peddy> visik7, haha, working. thanks :)
[02:54] <myron> cyberworm: weird my ati card works great
[02:54] <bslapmeufool> !ohmy | maco
[02:54] <bslapmeufool> You abused me with bot
[02:54] <logicport> anyone installed intell drivers before
[02:54] <logicport> need 950
[02:54] <maco> bslapmeufool: no, i told you off for inappropriate speech. you are just fooling around with it
[02:54] <alchamech> nice to know that the ubuntu family really cares about its dieing supporters
[02:54] <bslapmeufool> Eye for eye. Now we can be friends ok.
[02:55] <bslapmeufool> I find this abusefull
[02:55] <alchamech> out
[02:55] <bslapmeufool> You only need to say it
[02:55] <bslapmeufool> Not bot me,
[02:55] <ZykoticK9> PlasmaSheep, you may be able to hack something running the the "root" window (different from root account) - but it's beyond me for sure.  good luck - ps that OSX thing looks very cool.
[02:55] <bslapmeufool> tIm sory
[02:55] <MenZa> bslapmeufool: You may want to read the Code of Conduct and IRC Guidelines before contiuing.
[02:55] <bslapmeufool> Please lets just be friends
[02:55] <bslapmeufool> I say im sorry
[02:55] <Barx> don't want suse! I want remove it without trashing it !! x(
[02:55] <bslapmeufool> !ohmy | MenZa
[02:56] <DigitalKiwi> ban! ban! ban! ban!
[02:56] <bslapmeufool> !ohmy | DigitalKiwi
[02:56] <judson> i have a prob with flash
[02:56] <judson> i have a problem with mt flash player
[02:57] <ZykoticK9> judson, can you give more details?
[02:57] <DigitalKiwi> judson: what's the problem
[02:57] <MenZa> judson: You might want to state what problem you're having, so we can help you better.
[02:57] <vgambit> lmao finally got ubuntu-desktop installed and presumably running
[02:57] <judson> when i try to broadcast on blog tv and when i try to press allow nothing happens :(
[02:57] <vgambit> my 9 year old pc is now outputting at 1080p resolution
[02:58] <judson> it  just stays there froze
[02:58] <PlasmaSheep> vgambit: that's like the computers in my school's computer lab!
[02:58] <PlasmaSheep> ZykoticK9: Well, thanks.
[02:58] <ZykoticK9> vgambit, monitors still kick the pans off any HD tv for resolution
[02:58] <judson> it worked fine when i installed ubuntu
[02:59] <vgambit> well I have it hooked up to my hdtv actually
[02:59] <llua> the minizine/restore/exit parts of my windows just disappeared
[02:59] <judson> any 1 know wat the problem is?
[02:59] <vgambit> the only monitor in this house that isn't a part of a laptop is a 15" lcd from like '02
[02:59] <vgambit> 1024x768 native res
[02:59] <visik7> system76 build a laptop that fits perfectly my needs the only problem is that I'm outside of the US
[03:00] <MenZa> visik7: Aye, it's sad for us non-US'ers. You can have a look at ThinkPads, they generally run really well in my experience.
[03:00] <gl1d3> is it simple to dual-boot ubuntu on a mac
[03:00] <ZykoticK9> vgambit, i was just commenting that your 9 year-old pc can output to better the HD quality really (cause they're suppose to be hooked up to monitors)
[03:00] <dorne> anyone know a deb repository that contains a more recent version of pulseaudio?
[03:00] <vgambit> ah
[03:00] <mudsplatter> o god
[03:01] <DigitalKiwi> yes, my child?
[03:01] <mudsplatter> how to a point moive player
[03:01] <MenZa> gl1d3: Sure.
[03:01] <mudsplatter> to esound
[03:01] <MenZa> !dualboot > gl1d3
[03:01] <visik7> MenZa: too expensive compared with an equivalent laptop anyway I'll wait until i7 core will be shipped with Business laptops from dell
[03:01] <vgambit> most of the main computers in this house are laptops, and the only two desktops we have are hooked up to hdtvs
[03:01] <visik7> MenZa: maybe a Latitude or Vostro
[03:01] <judson> can i get some help here?
[03:01] <vgambit> though this old rig is going headless as soon as I get all the wake on lan stuff set up
[03:01] <llua> the minizine/restore/exit parts of my windows just disappeared any idea how to get them back?
[03:01] <dorne> my version is pulseaudio 0.9.14
[03:01] <MenZa> judson: Have patience - if someone knows the answer to your question, they'll tell you.
[03:01] <judson> ok
[03:01] <visik7> I'm with a mac book pro since 1 year and I want to go back to ubuntu I don't want a mac anymore
[03:02] <ZykoticK9> mudsplatter, in command line "mplayer -ao help" shows all available and "mplayer -ao esd FILENAME" should use ESound
[03:02] <judson> and also software sources wont open when i enter my password when it tells me 2
[03:04] <P1ro> hi, im trying to get a liveusb with persistent changes since im having HDD problems, i can boot from cd and from usb what toturial im i should follow ?
[03:04] <gl1d3> http://gizmodo.com/5378421/fun-with-linux-commands
[03:05] <DigitalKiwi> kill: not enough arguments
[03:05] <ZykoticK9> judson, if you click System / Administration / Synaptic Package Manager - does it accept your password?
[03:05] <DigitalKiwi> :(
[03:05] <judson> yes
[03:05] <ZykoticK9> judson, k just checking - i got nothing else for ya
[03:06] <judson> ok]
[03:06] <P1ro> hi, im trying to get a liveusb with persistent changes since im having HDD problems, i can boot from cd and from usb what toturial im i should follow ?
[03:06] <ZykoticK9> DigitalKiwi, "kill" requires the PID # of a process ie "kill 19843"
[03:06] <MenZa> P1ro: Please refrain from repeating your question so quickly - people will tell you the answer to your problem if they know it.
[03:06] <judson> brb
[03:07] <DigitalKiwi> ZykoticK9: you didn't click gl1d3s link
[03:07] <oldude67> P1ro, what type of os are you using now?
[03:07] <ZykoticK9> DigitalKiwi, lol - my bad
[03:08] <judson> who uses the mac4lin theme?
[03:09] <DigitalKiwi> what's that? makes your linux look like mac?
[03:09] <gl1d3> judson: i will once i dual boot
[03:09] <judson> cool its easy to install i love it <3
[03:10] <shawn_> Why would I want my Linux to look like a Mac... If I wanted Mac I'd use a Mac.
[03:10] <P1ro> oldude67: right now im using ubuntu on a usb
[03:10] <ZykoticK9> judson, unless you have a problem with "mac4lin" theme (in which case you should just ask your question and see if anyone knows); this sounds like something for #ubuntu-offtopic.  Also don't use brb on this channel.
[03:10] <gl1d3> what linux versions support power pc mac
[03:10] <P1ro> oldude67:  but with no persistent changes :(
[03:11] <mgv2> anything better thhan keepassx?
[03:11] <judson> ok
[03:11] <P1ro> i found a toturial but it had to be done from windows (http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/)
[03:12] <Alien_FX_Fiend> can anyone in here help me with teamviewer i have a device driver prob on xp
[03:12] <Alien_FX_Fiend> is there any channels for win xp users
[03:12] <oldude67> ##windows
[03:12] <ZykoticK9> Alien_FX_Fiend, i think it's ##windows, yup
[03:13] <Harrison_Bergero> hello again
[03:13] <Harrison_Bergero> i tried your advice
[03:13] <Alien_FX_Fiend> thanks a lot
[03:13] <Harrison_Bergero> when i do ctrl.alt.F1
[03:13] <Harrison_Bergero> what is the reboot command
[03:13] <DigitalKiwi> http://penguinppc.org/about/distributions.php gl1d3
[03:13] <ZykoticK9> Harrison_Bergero, try and type everything in one line
[03:13] <Harrison_Bergero> oh ok
[03:13] <oldude67> ctrl.alt.delete
[03:14] <gl1d3> thanks
[03:14] <bazhang> !dontzap
[03:14] <gl1d3> dititalkiwi thanks
[03:14] <ZykoticK9> Harrison_Bergero, any time in the GUI press CTRL+ALT+F1 to get to a console and CTRL+ALT+F7 (or F10) to get back
[03:14] <kermit> gl1d3: all of them
[03:14] <gl1d3> they do?
[03:14] <afeijo> can I use ubuntu server x64 in my virtualbox that runs under my kubuntu 32bits ?
[03:14] <DigitalKiwi> kermit: :/
[03:14] <gl1d3> kermit: i thought powerpc was unsupported
[03:15] <Harrison_Bergero> Zytotick9....attempting that now....brb i hope
[03:15] <MenZa> gl1d3: It is, officially. There's a community port for it.
[03:15] <Harrison_Bergero> cool....it was F7 for me to get back
[03:15] <ZykoticK9> afeijo, with newer version of vbox (probably 3+) YES!  64bit guests on 32bit hosts!
[03:15] <d__finn> what's a good USB wireless adapter that works out of the box?  Preferably something not too expensive and that I could pick up at my local best buy or circuit city type place?  I only need G capabilty
[03:15] <pawan> hi
[03:15] <P1ro> oldude67: i wanna do it from ubuntu
[03:15] <afeijo> ZykoticK9: sweet, downloading ubuntu srv 64 :D
[03:15] <Zhane> guys... how do i solve the problem of having "No Wubildr" when i use wubi to install karmic?
[03:15] <pawan> cant install nvidia drivers
[03:15] <gl1d3> menZa: thanks. do you by any chance have a link?
[03:15] <afeijo> ZykoticK9: does ubuntu server came with virtual interface or just shell ?
[03:15] <MenZa> gl1d3: I can find one - hold on :)
[03:16] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for karmic Zhane
[03:16] <MenZa> gl1d3: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#Is Ubuntu supported on PowerPC?
[03:16] <MenZa> gl1d3: Well, just the first part of that link should do.
[03:16] <pawan> !nvidia
[03:16] <Harrison_Bergero> Zykotick9....i have a random freeze problem with Jaunty, mouse works sometimes but not all the time when it freezes.  Any suggestions on troubleshooing?
[03:16] <gl1d3> menza: thanks so much. linux users are so much more helpful then mac/windows users
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> afeijo:  not sure what you mean by virtual. but the server dosent include X  - its console based
[03:16]  * afeijo omb 1350 users here!
[03:16] <ZykoticK9> afeijo, i have a 64bit proc so i've never tried the 64bit on 32bit host before -- don't know what overhead is involved how fast it runs etc.  Do you have vXT or whatever it's call - makes a big difference.
[03:16] <P1ro> hi, im trying to get a liveusb with persistent changes since im having HDD problems, i can boot from cd and from usb what toturial im i should follow ? im on ubuntu 9.04
[03:16] <MenZa> gl1d3: glad to be of assistance :)
[03:17] <afeijo> Dr_Willis: sweet, thanks.  I will setup a virtualbox with ubuntu server 64
[03:17] <afeijo> Dr_Willis: to simulate my host VPS plan
[03:17] <Doonz> if i had these in my crontab would they execut properly?
[03:17] <Madcamper> anyone know of a free cedega alternative ?
[03:17] <Doonz> 30 * * * * /home/media/cron/home.tvshows.sh
[03:17] <Doonz> 30 * * * * /home/media/cron/mom.tvshows.sh
[03:17] <canthus13> Madcamper: wine
[03:17] <DigitalKiwi> gl1d3: the link I gave you has links to stuff about it
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> P1ro:  use the usb-creator tool  (install it if its notallready on the live cd) and you can generate a bootable flash with persistant save with it. is one way
[03:17] <Madcamper> is wine very good for gaming?
[03:17] <afeijo> Doonz: probably
[03:17] <Doonz> thats the proper way to have it set to run a script?
[03:17] <gl1d3> madcamper: wine is not meant to be used for gaming
[03:17] <ZykoticK9> Harrison_Bergero, yes figure out how to do all the ctrl+alt+f1 thing, log in and run the command top and it will show you what is using the most CPU power - perhaps this will tell you what is causing the problem.
[03:17] <afeijo> Madcamper: nah
[03:17] <canthus13> Madcamper: cedega is wine with tweaks.  You can tweak most stuff to run under wine just as well as under cedega.
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> Madcamper: wine or one of its vairants yes. See the wine app database for info on specific games
[03:18] <afeijo> Doonz: to be safer, use sh before /home...
[03:18] <afeijo> thats what I do
[03:18] <Madcamper> ok, just wanting to run Counter-strike source
[03:18] <gl1d3> digitalkiwi: i know. I was just wondering if there were any other links on the topic
[03:18] <Doonz> 30 * * * * sh /home/media/cron/mom.tvshows.sh
[03:18] <afeijo> yep
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | Madcamper
[03:18] <Doonz> ok
[03:18] <canthus13> Madcamper: Wine should run it just fine.
[03:18] <pawan> i have nvidia card but it is not getting detected in hardware drivers
[03:18] <P1ro> Dr_Willis:  that is not the same as uneetbooting ?
[03:18] <Madcamper> ok
[03:18] <gl1d3> madcamper: it's an old game. it should work well
[03:18] <ZykoticK9> gl1d3, Madcamper wine is GREAT for gaming
[03:19] <LordDarth> Wine is pretty good thees days i concur
[03:19] <gl1d3> it is? i thought that wine was not meant to be an emulator
[03:19] <LordDarth> I didn't say emulator
[03:19] <ZykoticK9> gl1d3, Wine Is Not an Emulator ha ha
[03:19] <DigitalKiwi> heard there is way better support from crossover games/linux than cedega/wine
[03:19] <P1ro> Dr_Willis:  you mean the one who came with ubuntu? well i done it but persistent changes are NOT working :(
[03:19] <canthus13> gl1d3: It isn't.  It's runtime files that enable windows software to run on linux.
[03:20] <LordDarth> But it is good at running windows programs. I even run a trading terminal in it.
[03:20] <Harrison_Bergero> Zykotick9....well nothing special running.  CPU usage fluctuates from 8 to 70% for an app called compiz
[03:20] <gl1d3> canthus13: that explains a lot
[03:20] <canthus13> DigitalKiwi: Crossover games is wine as well.
[03:20] <robert__> will array make my msi laptop better?
[03:20] <DigitalKiwi> it's a fork
[03:20] <DigitalKiwi> that just happens to send some patches to wine
[03:20] <canthus13> DigitalKiwi: Nah. They contribute most of their stuff back to wine eventually.
[03:20] <robert__> whacha mean a fork?
[03:20] <Harrison_Bergero> i have IRC app running, sensors, xeyes.  thats all
[03:20] <robert__> oh ok
[03:20] <Dr_Willis> P1ro:  you did tell it to make a persistant save file?  There may be ways to add it -  depending on what you do some changes may NOT get saved properly also.
[03:20] <ZykoticK9> Harrison_Bergero, is it frozen right now though?
[03:20] <Doonz> afeijo: if i added a job 30 * * * * echo "Scripts Ran insertdate"  what would i use for insertdate to show the date and time it ran?
[03:20] <Harrison_Bergero> Zykotick9....no
[03:20] <kermit> i cant find xroach :/
[03:20] <canthus13> robert__: A fork is where some devs don't like where the general project is going, and take the source code and start a new project.
[03:21] <ZykoticK9> Harrison_Bergero, you have to try doing THIS when the problem happens!
[03:21] <robert__> canthus13, oh ok thanks
[03:21] <DigitalKiwi> a fork is an eating utensil!
[03:21] <canthus13> robert__: Case in point: Pidgin was forked over an argument about whether or not the input window should resize itself.
[03:21] <robert__> will array kernel make my msi laptop better?
[03:21] <Harrison_Bergero> Zykotick9....oh ok.  thanks....ill make a note.  I happens twice a week or so.  Just random
[03:21] <Izyu> I need help, What is a Protocol and Channel in Data Connections?
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> Doonz:  use  $(date) or similer at the end.
[03:21] <Doonz> Dr_Willis: will that add a time as well?
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> Doonz:  bash basics man...  it runs whatever command is in $()
[03:22] <Harrison_Bergero> Zykotick9....well, not comletely random.....with firefox or playing a movie file.
[03:22] <gl1d3> downloading bootcamp now
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> Doonz:  find the proper command to do the time/date  (and yes date can proberly do it)(
[03:22] <canthus13> DigitalKiwi: Fork sounds better than spoon.
[03:22] <Madcamper> anyway to stretch the descriptino or text under an icon like on the desktop? ex. make the text fix the size of the icon?
[03:22] <Madcamper> fit*
[03:23] <DigitalKiwi> Doonz: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[03:23] <P1ro> Dr_Willis: well i told to use the left space on the pen drive to his files
[03:23] <ZykoticK9> Harrison_Bergero, from the console you can actually kill applications as well, then potentially switch back to GUI and everything will be working again - you just need to determine what is causing the problem (which unfortunatly is NOT the easy part)  Good luck to you.
[03:23] <robert__> will array kernel make my msi laptop better?
[03:23] <LordDarth> Just for the record
[03:23] <LordDarth> I LOVE UBUNTU
[03:23] <DigitalKiwi> it loves you
[03:23] <LordDarth> :)
[03:24] <Doonz> DigitalKiwi: hehe yeah i just found that one. i was asking google the wrong question
[03:24] <DigitalKiwi> it's supposedly very good
[03:24]  * DigitalKiwi hasn't read it, I just do lua/C
[03:24]  * LordDarth pets his Ubuntu CD
[03:24] <tb> is xubuntu better in 9.10 than 9.04
[03:24] <P1ro> Dr_Willis: im trying to get the nvidia drivers that kinda stuff on persistent changes
[03:24] <Harrison_Bergero> zytotick9......im new to this, but is the command to kill and app "kill" and then the name of the app?
[03:24] <VivaVista> If I reinstall Windows Vista from Recovery CDs will it automatically delete the Linux Partition and restore the MBR from GRUB?
[03:25] <robert__> i tried xubuntu but had trouble getting dvd discs to play
[03:25] <P1ro> VivaVista: yes
[03:25] <robert__> and its not as configurable
[03:25] <MenZa> Harrison_Bergero: Nope, 'kill' takes a process ID (PID). You want killall 'appname' to kill an app by name
[03:25] <ZykoticK9> Harrison_Bergero, "killall nameofprogram" get nameofprogram by using "top" or "ps -aux"
[03:25] <robert__> will array kernel make my msi laptop better?
[03:25] <Viz_Ru> hi, I can't seem to find my windows computers in places->network->windows network,  I've tried doing "connect to server" and typing in my computers name, but it says "Cannot display location 'smb://..etc.' Failed to mount Windows Share"... any suggestions?
[03:25] <VivaVista> ok
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> P1ro:  thats EXACTLY the thing that has issues. - i had to edit the rc.local script to  copy over a proper xorg.conf  then launch gdm. last i made a persistant save/usb.
[03:25] <DigitalKiwi> htop is 100 times better than top
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> P1ro:  see if it saves somthing simple like th eusers settings/wallpaper.
[03:26] <LordDarth> Htop eh, i'll have to try it.
[03:26] <ZykoticK9> Viz_Ru, can you ping your windows box?
[03:26] <DigitalKiwi> it even has an integrated sigsend thingy, so you can kill a process easily (push F9)
[03:26] <robert__> does anyone use array?
[03:26] <LordDarth> Nice
[03:26] <P1ro> Dr_Willis: well i did change the wifi pass and add flash pluing to firefox but none of those are working
[03:26] <Viz_Ru> ZykoticK9, how would I go about pinging it in ubuntu?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> P1ro:  basically i made a proper xorg.conf, disabled gdm, from auto-launching, then in rc.local. copied the xorg.conf to the right place, and again from rc.local launched gdm.
[03:26] <ZykoticK9> DigitalKiwi, in top you can press k to kill something
[03:26] <Harrison_Bergero> MenZa....Zykotick9....thanks.  I'll be back in here after my next freeze.  Hope it wont be anytime soon
[03:26] <DigitalKiwi> http://omploader.org/vMjgyag at the top in this screen
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> P1ro:  see if it rembers stuff like your wallpaper/settings as a test
[03:27] <ZykoticK9> Viz_Ru, open a terminal and type "ping IPADDRESSOFWINDOWSCOMPUTER"
[03:27] <DigitalKiwi> ZykoticK9: but you still have to give it a PID
[03:27] <LordDarth> Its nice DigitalKiwi
[03:27] <P1ro> Dr_Willis: so it should be bbetter if i just install the system on the pendrive ?
[03:27] <ZykoticK9> DigitalKiwi, yes it's PID not name (or is htop menu?)
[03:27] <DigitalKiwi> try htop
[03:27] <Viz_Ru> ZykoticK9: yes I can ping it, (sorry, was typing in computer name)
[03:28] <DigitalKiwi> you'll love me for it
[03:28] <P1ro> Dr_Willis: well brb
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> P1ro:  no idea. I never do that.
[03:28] <ZykoticK9> Viz_Ru, does it (windows box) have something shared?  and no firewall enabled?
[03:28] <zelda1> hello does anyone here have experience with network deisgn?
[03:28] <zelda1> client/server network in particular?
[03:29] <DigitalKiwi> ZykoticK9: in htop you just select the process either via clicking or arrows, push F9 and it pops up a frame at the side, push enter to send SIGTERM or you can pick something else
[03:29] <zelda1> how do I ghost my name?
[03:29] <ZykoticK9> Viz_Ru, in Nautilus try "smb://IPADDRESSOFWINDOWS"
[03:29] <afeijo> that shall be fun to set up a machine without X lol
[03:30] <DigitalKiwi> see my screen ^^
[03:30] <ZykoticK9> DigitalKiwi, clicking on it?  is this gui?
[03:30] <DigitalKiwi> ncurses
[03:30] <Viz_Ru> ZykoticK9: The firewall is off, (the computer is using windows 7 by the way), how do I use Nautilus?
[03:30] <Loganhoup> how is windows 7?
[03:30] <Loganhoup> better than vista?
[03:30] <zelda1> yes
[03:30] <ZykoticK9> Viz_Ru, Nautilus is the File manager in Ubuntu
[03:30] <zelda1> most definitey
[03:30] <Viz_Ru> ZykoticK9: Oh, sorry, sec
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> Loganhoup:  ask in #windows
[03:30] <zelda1> *l
[03:31] <DigitalKiwi> ##windows
[03:31] <gl1d3> loganhoup: linux pwns them all
[03:31] <gl1d3> loganhoup: keep in mind this is an ubuntu thread
[03:31] <Loganhoup> gl1d3: no kidding
[03:31] <bazhang> Loganhoup, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:32] <DigitalKiwi> bazhang out of nowhere
[03:32] <Loganhoup> oh I'm in the wrong channel then
[03:32] <Sandstorm> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?ð¹ð°ð·ð³ð¶ð³ðºð¼ð·ð®ð¼ððº" 0 0 0
[03:32] <Loganhoup> I thought I was in offtopic
[03:32] <Viz_Ru> ZykoticK9: excellent, I see my files !!  Thank you!
[03:32] <gl1d3> which is better to dual boot? bootcamp or virtualbox (on a mac)
[03:32] <ZykoticK9> Viz_Ru, your welcome
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> gl1d3:  technically virtualbox is not 'dual booting'
[03:33] <ZykoticK9> gl1d3, not an ubuntu question
[03:33] <gl1d3> sorry
[03:33] <gl1d3> checking for a mac thread
[03:33] <afeijo> ubuntu server install screen in text are so ugly lol
[03:33] <shawn_> gl1d3, We don't take kindly to you're folk 'round 'ere.
[03:33] <P1ro> Dr_Willis: no wallpaper is the same :s
[03:33] <yoophglup> what is a floating panel that looks like the mac panel?
[03:33] <rafase282> hello I need help to get info frommy sdcard, it seems to be damaged but i dont want to format it and lose my data so I was thinkign of dd but i dont know hwo to use it
[03:34] <LordDarth> Are there ubuntu social channels ??? more off topic chatter ?
[03:34] <bazhang> shawn_, please be civil
[03:34] <bazhang> LordDarth, #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:34] <LordDarth> Awsome thanks
[03:34] <shawn_> bazhang It's a joke... I guess you do not watch South Park?
[03:34] <d__finn> what's a good USB wireless adapter that works out of the box?  Preferably something not too expensive and that I could pick up at my local best buy or circuit city type place?  I only need G capabilty
[03:34] <bazhang> shawn_, humor does not convey well on a social channel.
[03:34] <Mario1> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?ð¹ð°ð·ð³ð¶ð³ðºð¼ð·ð®ð¼ððº" 0 0 0
[03:34] <ZykoticK9> yoophglup, AWN Avant Windows Manager or somehting like that?
[03:35] <shawn_> bazhang Everything is so strict on IRCs X_X
[03:36] <DigitalKiwi> s/on/& ubuntu/
[03:36] <bazhang> shawn_, this is support; please chat and such in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:36] <yoophglup> can i use it with gnome panels?
[03:37] <ZykoticK9> yoophglup, i think so, i don't use AWN - looks cool but not stable enough for me (other people like it a lot though)
[03:37] <shawn_> Zomg Floodbot is flooding the channel.
[03:37] <yoophglup> cool thanks
[03:38] <Serla> anyone knows a quick file upload site?
[03:38] <shawn_> yoophglup Gnome-Do Docky is really good as well
[03:39]  * Dr_Willis seconds gnome-do's docky theme for a actually USEABLE dock
[03:39] <Guest14106> whats crackin
[03:39] <mgv2> can i create encryption keys if already used the email for lost keys?
[03:39] <zelda> hi
[03:40] <MenZa> mgv2: Sure.
[03:40] <mgv2> MenZa,  i will try again letter to see if it works
[03:41] <ecin_> is your add remove programs suppsed to be empty on a clean install?
[03:41] <yoophglup> is Gnome-Do docky in the repository cause i don't see it
[03:42] <ZykoticK9> yoophglup, from terminal "$ apt-cache search gnome-do"
[03:42] <robert__> will array kernel make my msi laptop better?
[03:43] <shawn_> yoophglup, It's called Gnome-Do and then you switch it's Theme to "Docky" in the settings to turn it into a Dock
[03:43] <shawn_> yoophglup, Its a lot better than AWN
[03:43] <KnifeySpooney> Hi, I just rebooted after installing updates in karmic, but now my machine is unbootable after being tossed a bootchart error during boot. After the bootchart error is a cannot mount filesystem error. Then the comp reboots. Right now i'm using a liveUSB. How can I uninstall a package in my harddisk installation of Ubuntu from a liveCD?
[03:43] <bazhang> robert__, the array kernel is not a Ubuntu product
[03:43] <ZykoticK9> KnifeySpooney, ask same question in #ubuntu+1
[03:43] <ecin_> :(
[03:44] <robert__> bazhang, i know but its a question i don't know the answer to and its for Ubuntu
[03:44] <KnifeySpooney> ZykoticK9: Thanks, I'm already in there but I figured that this question is not really about karmic but Ubuntu in general. Do you know of a way to uninstall bootchart from a livecd?
[03:44] <yoophglup> thanks everyone awn avant is perfect, now if i can get it to load on my second display. you guys are great.
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> KnifeySpooney, nope sorry
[03:44] <bazhang> robert__, as such, some have success; you may wish to talk the makers (they generally are on eeeuser.com forum or #eeepc )
[03:45] <Ghnuberath> do you need to uninstall it? can you just disable it?
[03:45] <robert__> bazhang, i have an msi netbook, its an atom processor so i'm assuming it will work the same
[03:45] <ecin_> how do i use my wifi ?
[03:45] <ecin_> It asked me if i want to accept the third party driver, i acceped and restarted
[03:46] <ecin_> now it says wlan interface disconnected
[03:46] <bazhang> robert__, better to ask in the appropriate channel for support
[03:46] <robert__> bazhang, this would be the best channel for my question since there is no array channel
[03:46] <Ghnuberath> KinfeySpooney, did you try removing the system startup links for bootchart?
[03:46] <AnirbanHazra> what is the mysql version that is provided by default with Hardy ?
[03:47] <bazhang> #eeepc robert__ the array kernel is not supported here
[03:47] <robert__> bazhang, i know that, but maybe someone can still answer questions
[03:47] <lstarnes> AnirbanHazra: the default mysql-server is 5.0
[03:48] <ZykoticK9> AnirbanHazra, if your currently own hardy run in cli "apt-cache policy mysql-server"
[03:48] <lstarnes> AnirbanHazra: 4.1 is also available
[03:49] <burningice> what us dudes
[03:49] <AnirbanHazra> lstarnes: Uhu the exact number 5.0.xx ?? what is the xx that is given by default with Hardy ?
[03:49] <lstarnes> AnirbanHazra: I have 5.0.51a
[03:49] <Ghnuberath> AnirbanHazra: 5.0.51
[03:50] <lstarnes> AnirbanHazra: that's the most up-to-date package from the repos
[03:50] <lstarnes> !info mysql-server hardy > AnirbanHazra
[03:50] <ZykoticK9> AnirbanHazra, 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2
[03:51] <lstarnes> ZykoticK9: are you sure that that's the version in hardy?
[03:51] <AnirbanHazra> lstarnes: same here , I have 5.0.51a .
[03:51] <ZykoticK9> AnirbanHazra, lstarnes NO - that 9.04 most recent
[03:51] <lstarnes> ZykoticK9: he was asking about hardy (8.04)
[03:52] <ZykoticK9> lstarnes, yes, thanks for pointing out my mistake
[03:56] <Zennial> hello
[03:56] <Zennial> hello
[03:56] <Zennial> anyone
[03:56] <Zennial> ?
[03:56] <FloodBot2> Zennial: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:57] <bazhang> Zennial, hi
[03:57] <Ghnuberath> Zennial, hi there
[03:57] <Zennial> sup guys
[03:57] <LordDarth> Hi
[03:57] <LordDarth> Hi
[03:57] <Zennial> are we all on our ubuntu boxes?
[03:57] <Zennial> lol
[03:57] <Ghnuberath> of course haha
[03:57] <LordDarth> Im running dos 3.2 Beat that!!
[03:58] <James_N> I'm on WinXP atm
[03:58]  * James_N hides
[03:58] <Zennial> lol ubuntu jaunty jacke
[03:58] <Zennial> =)
[03:58] <bazhang> !ot
[04:00] <Madcamper> is Wine supposed to be skippy?
[04:00] <Zennial> skippy?
[04:00] <Madcamper> like laggy
[04:00] <Zennial> well no
[04:00] <Ghnuberath> Madcamper:  it depends on what program you're trying to run on it
[04:00] <LordDarth> IT can be Madcamper
[04:00] <Zennial> but at the moment ican only runs simple tasks
[04:01] <Madcamper> its laggy when i run Counter-strike source, and even mIRC
[04:01] <Zennial> runing somehing big may lead to lag
[04:01] <thneed> Hi, I cannot install ubuntu from netinstall OR iso discs, I have tried 3 of each it always crashes and now will not even load at all when I boot, I have my device priority set to hard drive, then cdrom. Can someone offer a helpful hint?
[04:01] <Zennial> thats why
[04:01] <Zennial> lol
[04:01] <Driedman> Lot of fucking people in this channel
[04:01] <Madcamper> well i was told it can run CSS just fine
[04:01] <MenZa> !language | Driedman
[04:01] <Driedman> lol
[04:01] <MenZa> Madcamper: It should. I had no issues back in the day.
[04:01] <Ghnuberath> Madcamper: it can, CS source has a great rating on the AppDB
[04:01] <Madcamper> hrm
[04:02] <Madcamper> would running compiz cause a problem?
[04:02] <thneed> originally it loaded from disc and I tried to check disc for errors and ran intstallation, just showed intrafrms for while
[04:02] <MenZa> Madcamper: It might.
[04:02] <Ghnuberath> Madcamper: I'd say either its' configured wrong, something to do with your graphics driver, compiz, etc.
[04:02] <Madcamper> ok
[04:02] <MenZa> Madcamper: Try without it, anyway.
[04:02] <Ghnuberath> Madcamper: have you tried it without compiz? just for kicks?
[04:02] <Madcamper> was thinking about it, but said nah
[04:02] <Madcamper> :P
[04:02] <Caliginous> hi, join  #ubuntu-offtyupic is empty!
[04:03] <Ghnuberath> thneed: what sort of computer are you trying to install it on?
[04:03] <MenZa> Caliginous: It's #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:03] <Ghnuberath> Madcamper: It shouldn't really cause a problem with compiz if you enable the "virtual desktop" setting
[04:03] <meowbang> anyone know the command to auto remove and fix broken packages
[04:03] <Zennial> yeah i find some computers rejecting some os
[04:03] <Zennial> linux distros
[04:04] <Caliginous> byte the way, virtualbox sucks .. i'm runningh ubuntu on pc but I purchased cheapie bluetooth dongle that works fine!!!
[04:04] <Madcamper> i dont evne see that in the settings
[04:04] <Ghnuberath> meowbang: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto#How%20to%20fix%20broken%20packages
[04:04] <thneed> Ghnuberath: an alienware laptop, I installed previously, now I wiped everything and I am trying from disc (netinstall) and also from .iso
[04:04] <Zennial> quick question are we  all familiar with the aircrack-ng suite?
[04:05] <Ghnuberath> thneed: that's odd.  if it's reasonably new, it shouldn't cause a problem.  have you tried a usb-installer?
[04:06] <thneed> Ghnuberath: well, no because I have nothing installed ont he laptop, can I use usbinstaller from a different computer on a usb and pop that in?
[04:06] <meowbang> Ghnuberath, no thats not what i need. i need to use the terminal command that will auto remove adn fix my install. something like sudo apt-fix missing
[04:06] <Ghnuberath> Zennial: familiar, ish.  there are some pretty comprehensive tutorials online, but I can't remember much of it off the top of my head.
[04:06] <thneed> Ghnuberath: to the laptop?
[04:07] <Ghnuberath> thneed: yeah, you can make a usb installer on another computer and try it.  just in case there's something wrong with your CDs or with your drive.  Also, make sure you verify the iso with MD5 or something before using it.
[04:07] <Ghnuberath> meowbang: what do you mean by "missing"? what exactly is broken?
[04:07] <thneed> Ghnuberath: what is the md5sum command again?
[04:07] <meowbang> not sure i just want to clean out my computer
[04:08] <MeXTuX> I'm trying to install Unreal Tournament 99 GOTY and got this message: Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library    Does anyone know what does it mean??
[04:08] <Ghnuberath> thneed: $ man md5sum
[04:08] <ZykoticK9> MeXTuX, give me a second
[04:08] <meowbang> i have ubuntu 8.04.1 baised crunchbang os
[04:08] <thneed> Ghnuberath: okay I will check
[04:08] <Zennial> hmm
[04:08] <Ghnuberath> meowbang: so nothing is actually broken?
[04:08] <lucs> Is it normal to see crypted passwords in /etc/passwd? Shouldn't they be in /etc/shadow?
[04:09] <meowbang> not sure
[04:09] <meowbang> there is a command ending in -f that will sort things out
[04:09] <meowbang> or --fixmissing
[04:09] <lstarnes> meowbang: apt-get install -f?
[04:09] <Raulillo25> windows mola
[04:09] <Raulillo25> windows is god
[04:10] <MenZa> !windows | Raulillo25
[04:10] <ZykoticK9> MeXTuX, sorry can't find my note about that -- FYI if you're running on a modern PC you'll probably run into the same problem I and many others have (the speed of the game is all messed up).  I'll search internet for the error.
[04:10] <Raulillo25> ok
[04:10] <Ghnuberath> lucs: that is odd. there shouldn't be any crypted stuff in there. just basic user attributes
[04:10] <Raulillo25> but windows is great
[04:10] <maco> Raulillo25: good for it
[04:10] <lstarnes> Raulillo25: this channel hjas nothing to do with windoes
[04:10] <MenZa> Raulillo25: Glad you think so. Keep that discussion in ##windows, however.
[04:10] <lstarnes> *windows
[04:10] <maco> Raulillo25: not related to the channel though
[04:11] <meowbang> even that gives me errors adn i have old os
[04:11] <Ghnuberath> meowbang: lstarnes is right.  $ apt-get install --fix-broken may be what you're looking for
[04:11] <Raulillo25> i love android
[04:11] <Zennial> zykotick
[04:11] <Zennial> u have point
[04:11] <nullr> big problem with ubuntu. I can access the web with my main account. But on regular user accounts evolution will not load email. Firefox will load a page or 2 then give me a "connection reset by peer". Does anyone else use multiple accounts? why does the internet only work sometimes? Yes I checked permissions and everything is there.
[04:11] <MeXTuX> That message pops during installation so I aborted it because don't want to mess things up :s
[04:11] <lucs> Ghnuberath: Actually, maybe they're not crypted passwords (they look like crypts, but they're over 90 characters long).
[04:12] <Zennial> ive encountered some problems with newer systems
[04:12] <MenZa> Raulillo25: Keep in mind, this channel is exclusively for Ubuntu support. Not discussion, sharing opinions or anything of the kind. For other stuff, try #ubuntu-offtopic or other relevant channels.
[04:12] <Ghnuberath> lucs: true. the kind of information in there should just be like...the default shell and stuff like that
[04:12] <Ghnuberath> lucs: although each line may be very long
[04:13] <Ghnuberath> nullr: I have an ubuntu system set up with about 20 active users.  they've never had any problems accessing the internet.
[04:13] <lucs> Ghnuberath: Also, /etc/shadow has for example "lucs::14429:0:99999:7:::", no crypt there.
[04:13] <Zennial> am i th only one who sees the +**.**s lag?
[04:13] <Zennial> at botom left corner
[04:14] <Madcamper> anyone ever have trouble with wine and CSS where it only shows 1400x900 resolution?
[04:14] <ZykoticK9> MeXTuX, could you pastbin the entire error, looks like there is probably a line or two above the "c library" part
[04:14] <Ghnuberath> lucs: that's what mine looks like as well
[04:14] <lucs> Ghnuberath: Does your /etc/passwd have what appear to be crypted strings too?
[04:14] <Ghnuberath> lucs: only on the line which corresponds to my username
[04:15] <lucs> RIght, same here.
[04:15] <lucs> (and for root too)
[04:15] <Ghnuberath> lucs: it's a cryptographic hash of my password, probably SHA-1 and salted
[04:15] <nullr> this started recently. Its only on non admin accounts. Firefox loads a couple of pages then gives me that error untill I delete all the cookies and other data.  It is really annoying I tried everything I found on forums but it will not work.
[04:15] <meowbang> no luck always error code 1
[04:15] <MeXTuX> !ZykoticK9 Where can I paste the output so you can see it??
[04:15] <lucs> Ghnuberath: Well, I'd like that to be moved to /etc/shadow I suppose :/
[04:15] <MenZa> !pastebin | MeXTuX
[04:15] <nullr> any ideas on why it would be stopped?
[04:15] <elevenCA1> how do you visit this site if you use linux?  http://www.chasepaymentech.ca/e-statement
[04:15] <RegressLess> How do I use more of my RAM?
[04:15] <meowbang> so its probably ubuntu 8.04.1
[04:16] <MenZa> RegressLess: Run more applications.
[04:16] <meowbang> thats the prob not the upgrade
[04:16] <Ghnuberath> nullr: that is really odd. all of that private data should live in each user's .mozilla directory and shouldn't affect anyone else
[04:16] <Ghnuberath> nullr: so removing it shouldn't change anything
[04:16] <Darkedge> Listen, My brothers moving back to Windows, I need something (That's not Compiz) To pull him back...
[04:16] <Darkedge> Any Ideas?
[04:17] <Darkedge> Listen, My brothers moving back to Windows, I need something (That's not Compiz) To pull him back...
[04:17] <nullr> which is why im am confused that this is across several accounts that were working fine just days ago.
[04:17] <Darkedge> Any Ideas?
[04:17] <MenZa> Darkedge: There's lots of selling points of Linux. But it still isn't for everyone - if it doesn't impress him, leave him be.
[04:17] <Ghnuberath> elevenCA1: you may be able to spoof the site into thinking you're running IE.  I know that Opera can do it, but I'm not sure how it works in firefox.
[04:17] <MenZa> Darkedge: And please do not repeat yourself that quickly.
[04:17] <ZykoticK9> elevenCA1, try it in Opera Chromium first if you have them installed already.  There is a way to fake the headers in Firefox if that's what your using.
[04:17] <stebalien> lucs:  Is 'sudo shadowconfig on' what you are looking for?
[04:17] <lstarnes> elevenCA1: there are plugins for firefox that can make sites think that you're using IE
[04:17] <MeXTuX> This is my post http://paste.ubuntu.com/289769/
[04:17] <lucs> Ghnuberath: After some googling, I'm wondering if the system is using PAM, and if so, how can I find out (and where does ubuntu document all this).
[04:17] <lucs> stebalien: Oh, maybe :0 Let me see.
[04:18] <lucs> s/:0/:)/
[04:18] <nullr> brb trying somethings in the other accs
[04:18] <nullr> see if i get it to work
[04:18] <bad_one21521> can anyone help me install linksys drivers for wireless usb d
[04:18] <bad_one21521> i am using ubuntu
[04:18] <RegressLess> How do I get better performance out of my netbook. I'm trying to use gtk-recordmydesktop with zsnes and it stutters. I noticed I'm using only half my RAM (1 of 2 gigs) and heard that using the swap file was slower. Any suggestions?
[04:18] <ZykoticK9> MeXTuX, are you running that as "sudo ..."?
[04:18] <q0_0p> anyone here good with iptables?
[04:19] <MenZa> !anyone | q0_0p
[04:19] <MeXTuX> mmm nop I was running it as root
[04:19] <bad_one21521> anyone help me
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> RegressLess:  i was thinking zsnes had a 'record' movie feature if you want to record yourself playing a game
[04:19] <ZykoticK9> MeXTuX, how where you running that as root? then.
[04:19] <Zennial> i had the same problem the way i solved is was to download a stable "older" version of ubuntu and from there update to newer ubuntu version
[04:20] <RegressLess> Dr_Willis: it wouldn't surprise me that I've overlooked it
[04:20] <q0_0p> not sure what i'm doing wrong here >_< http://pastebin.com/m3ac7d54e
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> RegressLess:  im on 64bit so cant use zsnes (its 16bit only)
[04:20] <Ghnuberath> lucs: there should be a package corresponding to PAM, but as to hwo to find out if you're using it, I'm not sure
[04:20] <coconut> hi
[04:20] <MeXTuX> I wrote this -----> # ./unreal.tournament_436-multilanguage.goty.run --keep
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> RegressLess:  or i would look
[04:20] <lucs> stebalien: Yep, 'sudo shadowconfig on' fixed it all up.
[04:20] <ZykoticK9> MeXTuX, are you on Ubuntu?
[04:20] <Ghnuberath> lucs: are you concerned that your passwords aren't being stored securely?
[04:21] <MeXTuX> yes
[04:21] <Zennial> yummy salted hashes
[04:21] <RegressLess> Dr_Willis: I'll look and report back
[04:21] <coconut> in emacs, is there a mean not to move the cursor when you scroll ?
[04:21] <MenZa> MeXTuX: # only indicates it *is* root. You want sudo ./unreal.tournament_436-multilanguage.goty.run --kep
[04:21] <Ghnuberath> RegressLess: are you using Jaunty on a netbook with intel graphics?
[04:21] <MeXTuX> ok
[04:21] <bad_one21521> can anyone help me install drivers for linksys wusb54gsc
[04:21] <lucs> Ghnuberath: Well, kind of yeah, but like stebalien suggested, 'sudo shadowconfig on' fixed up the shadow and passwd files, so now I feel better :)
[04:21] <ZykoticK9> MeXTuX, try not to log in as root ever.  use a terminal as your regular user and try "sudo sh ./unreal_..."
[04:22] <MenZa> bad_one21521: Please have patience. Someone will help you if they know the solution to your problem.
[04:22] <bad_one21521> ok
[04:22] <lucs> Ghnuberath and stebalien: Thanks!
[04:22] <RegressLess> Ghnuberath: Yes, wishing I had the nVidia Ion
[04:22] <DigitalKiwi> what is this shadowconfig?
[04:22] <mushuukyou> I have installed compiz, enabled desktop cube and rotate cube, but the bindings for rotate cube are not working.
[04:22]  * DigitalKiwi has not shadowconfig
[04:22] <Ghnuberath> RegressLess: haha.  I actually have an intel netbook myself, and it's quite snappy.  But there was a major regression in the intel driver in jaunty which slows everything down
[04:23] <ZykoticK9> DigitalKiwi, shadownconfig is the encrypted /etc/passwd sorta thing
[04:23] <Ghnuberath> RegressLess: potentially to the point where it is unusable.
[04:23] <protos> hmm who runs this channel?
[04:23] <Ghnuberath> RegressLess: this worked very, very well for me: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[04:23] <coconut> in emacs, i don't want the cursor to move when I scroll up/down, How can I do ?
[04:24] <Ghnuberath> bad_one21521: have you tried ndiswrapper?  there are some pretty good articles online about making that adaptor work in ubuntu
[04:24] <MeXTuX> ok I did it as you said. It brought me a small setup screen
[04:24] <RegressLess> Ghnuberath: I haven't had any general usability issues, running jaunty with the array.org kernel
[04:24] <lucs> ZykoticK9: Do you happen to know why my default Jaunty desktop install appeared not to use shadow?
[04:24] <DigitalKiwi> ZykoticK9: it is a debianism?
[04:24] <mushuukyou> Would anyone know why the "control-alt-left mouse button" binding for rotate cube for compiz wouldn't do anything?  Have I missed something?
[04:25] <MeXTuX> The only thing that scares me is the Gdk-warning
[04:25] <Ghnuberath> RegressLess: ah.  it's possible that the array kernel reverted the driver itself.  what exactly is slow for you?
[04:25] <ZykoticK9> lucs, "shadow" what's that?
[04:25] <RegressLess> Ghnuberath: trying to record my desktop to show how cool it is
[04:25] <lucs> ZykoticK9: I meant /etc/shadow, related to /etc/passwd.
[04:25] <nullr1> I am back I found that It does connect to the internet  it is just Firefox giving the "connection reset by peer" after loading 2 pages and evolution not working at all.
[04:25] <Madcamper> bah counter-strike source crashed
[04:25] <ZykoticK9> lucs, no idea man.
[04:26] <bad_one21521> linksys wusb54gsc driver help
[04:26] <Thaes> hello, any tell me how do I install gtk2.0 themes in ubuntu? I am trying to install themes from gnome-look.org
[04:26] <nullr1> what are the hotmail servers for evolution? is it pop3.live.com and stmp.live.com?
[04:26] <lucs> ZykoticK9: Ok, thanks anyway :)
[04:26] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: the keyboard shortcuts may not be what you think they are.  try: $ sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager and running CompizConfig Settings Manager from the administration menu
[04:26] <Ghnuberath> nullr1: hotmail doesn't offer POP/IMAP for free, are you paying for it?
[04:26] <Madcamper> any ideas on improving CSS in wine and make the resolution 800x600 available?
[04:26] <mushuukyou> Ghnuberath, I am running compizconfig settings manager... if it's there, then I don't need to run that, do I?
[04:26] <Ghnuberath> RegressLess: oh, like a screencast?
[04:27] <RegressLess> Dr_Willis: you were correct about the movie option in zsnes
[04:27] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: oh, no, if you already have it, you should be fine.
[04:27] <nullr1> no are you sure I can get it on my other account.
[04:27] <mushuukyou> Ghnuberath, I enable rotate desktop, and it doesn't do anything.
[04:27] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: if they keyboard shortcut which is specified isn't working, try changing to something else and testing it again.
[04:27] <mushuukyou> I tried that, too
[04:27] <RegressLess> Ghnuberath: if you want to call it that. I want to make a youtube video to promote ubuntu and show my customized destop.
[04:27] <gbear14275> looking to figure out compatibility of an gigE marvell 8838056 card with ubuntu... is there a compatibility list... or something I can reference?
[04:27] <DigitalKiwi> RegressLess: oh no please don't
[04:28] <DigitalKiwi> there are already so many :(
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:28] <Ghnuberath> DigitalKiwi: so many bad ones.  haha
[04:28] <robert__> which boots faster ubuntu or xubuntu?
[04:28] <ZykoticK9> mushuukyou, try holding button3 on your mouse on the desktop and see if it zooms to cube (button 3 is the scroll wheel usually)
[04:28] <mushuukyou> Ghnuberath, I've tried that, no success.  It's as if it doesn't care about anything.   It's definitely enabled too
[04:28] <RegressLess> DigitalKiwi: don't watch, it's not for you anyway
[04:28] <robert__> i know kubuntu is out of that picture
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> Promoting Ubuntu by showing it can run a 12+yr old emulator. :)
[04:28] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: hmm... did you check out the regular ubuntu keyboard shortcuts settings box?
[04:28] <mushuukyou> Zykotic, nothing.
[04:28] <MenZa> robert__: they boot equally fast. chances are that Xfce (which is what Xubuntu runs) will load faster than Gnome (Ubuntu's default DE)
[04:28] <mushuukyou> umm
[04:29] <DigitalKiwi> RegressLess: that's correct in more ways than you think
[04:29] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: sometimes when they conflict, weird stuff happens.
[04:29] <mushuukyou> Ok where do I go for that?
[04:29] <mordocai> Hello, someone recently showed me a feature in Microsoft Word 2007, and i was wondering if an equivalent is available in openoffice. The feature allowed word to tell you when you were using passive voice, help correct style, and similar things that aren't really directly spelling and grammar errors. Does anyone know if openoffice can do this?
[04:29] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: System -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[04:29] <RegressLess> Dr_Willis: no, I was just going to edit is some old school game scenes for fun
[04:29] <DigitalKiwi> http://omploader.org/vMjgyag this is my desktop, RegressLess (and it's not ubuntu, either)
[04:30] <mushuukyou> Ghunberath, Is that something that everyone needs to tend to in order to do the cube thing?  I just installed ubuntu tonight.
[04:30] <Ghnuberath> mordocai: i'm don't think OpenOffice has any NLP that advanced.  or that it's really a priority for them
[04:30] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: no, not generally.  it should work right away.
[04:30] <mushuukyou> yea somethin'gs up.  I rebooted too.
[04:31] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: my last resort would be to remove the compiz configuration directory: $ rm -r ~/.compiz .  To start fresh.  But do this at your own risk.
[04:31] <RegressLess> DigialKiwi: people like you are a rare breed--and rarely breed
[04:31] <RegressLess> sorry
[04:31] <mordocai> Ghnuberath: Okay, it's not essential anyway. It is rather helpful though... oh well, openOffice is still better.
[04:31] <zulfi> how can i get you tube to play correntley on mozilla fire fox
[04:31] <DigitalKiwi> I have a gf, tyvm
[04:31] <mushuukyou> :(
[04:31] <lstarnes> zulfi: you need to have flashplugin-nonfree installed
[04:31] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: it may be beneficial to backup that directory first.  you'll be able to see it if you press CTRL+H in the Nautilus File Browser.  Then you can right-click on it and use "Create Archive" to back it up
[04:31] <RegressLess> DigitalKiwi: just joking, sorry
[04:32] <Ghnuberath> zulfi: $ sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:32] <ZykoticK9> mushuukyou, did you also enable "Rotate Cube" i think it's off by default
[04:32]  * DigitalKiwi bets he is more productive with that than spinning cube
[04:32] <mushuukyou> Maybe I'll just reinstall ubuntu all over again instead of having to do that
[04:32] <mushuukyou> zykotic, yes, I enabled that as well as desktop cube
[04:32] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: ZykoticK9 is right.  did you check to see if the "Enabled" checkbox was checked?
[04:32] <mushuukyou> yessss
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> be sure to set where you have 4+ desktops also :)
[04:32] <mushuukyou> where's that
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> general compix settings.
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> in ccsm.. other wise you got no cube :) you got a peice of paper...
[04:33] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: "General Options" -> Desktop Size
[04:33] <ZykoticK9> mushuukyou, Dr_Willis, number of desktops is just right click in the pager
[04:33] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: change horizontal to 4 or something.
[04:33] <mushuukyou> that did nothing, but yes, it's at 4 now
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  with compiz that does not change it...
[04:33] <nullr1> on my main account I can get my school live mail (.edu) and my regular one (.hotmail)  in evolution using POP. In the other accounts it just scans and never picks up any new or old messages on either.
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  unless they fixed it recently
[04:33] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, it sure does!
[04:34] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: add the Workspace Switcher to the Gnome Panel and try clicking on one of the other three workspaces?  See if the switch is animated.
[04:34] <infid> how do you install mysql 5.1 on ubuntu?
[04:34] <lstarnes> infid: in which version of ubuntu?
[04:34] <infid> i see mysql-client-5.1 and mysql-server-5.1 in apt. do i need both ?
[04:34]  * Dr_Willis really finds the cube an amazing waste of time and effort.
[04:34] <mushuukyou> Ghnub, I turned that off, but when it was on, it was in my taskbar and yes it did turn to another window, but it didnt do it in any animated way.
[04:34] <infid> lstarnes jaunty 9.04
[04:34] <lstarnes> infid: yes
[04:34] <DigitalKiwi> Dr_Willis: ^5
[04:34] <Orpheus> hey
[04:34]  * Orpheus needs some quick help if possible
[04:34] <MenZa> Orpheus: Ask your question, then :)
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> and the cube looks nasty on my dual screen setup.
[04:35] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: do you have any 3d effects at all?  Go to System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects tab
[04:35] <nullr1> Ghnuberath: It does work and it is free. The problem is not with the POP its with my system.
[04:35] <DigitalKiwi> Dr_Willis: are you a real doctor or do you just play one on IRC?
[04:35] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, so turn Deformations on and make it a Cylinder ;_
[04:35] <KnifeySpooney> In apport-collect, it tells me I need to allow "change anything" priveleges. What is this?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> DigitalKiwi:  Yes. :)
[04:35] <nullr1> wat
[04:35] <mushuukyou> Ghnuberath, I'm an idiot.
[04:35] <DigitalKiwi> yes to which, that was a compound question :P
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> DigitalKiwi:  yes. :)
[04:36]  * Dr_Willis is the Dr of Love.
[04:36] <zulfi> whats next after it dose that commend thing?
[04:36] <DigitalKiwi> you're a gynecologist ?
[04:36] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: what did you find?
[04:36] <Orpheus> Ok, so I need to print something quickly, and didn't have a printer set up - I plugged in my moms old hp 7660 series printer via USB - the system detected it and it seems to have installed the dirvers, but no matter what I do, it doesn't seem to actually "connect" to the printer in that it won't print out the things in the queue
[04:36] <mushuukyou> Well, I did that, but now my screen is kinda sunken into my monitor.. I might have to reboot or something.but I think that turned stuff on
[04:37] <mushuukyou> My windows do cool stuff
[04:37] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: that does sound like it's turned on.  haha.
[04:37] <mushuukyou> hehe
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> Orpheus:  some hp printers need the hpoj, or hplip tools also insstalled.
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> Orpheus, verify that whatever your printing from is going to CUPS
[04:37] <mushuukyou> Yea, I think I need to reboot.. visually everything is messed up
[04:37] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: then there's nothing wrong with compiz or your computer.  it must just be a configuration thing.
[04:37] <mushuukyou> yea
[04:37] <mushuukyou> thanks
[04:37] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: the cube will work.  just keep playing with it.  make sure the wall is disabled as well.
[04:37] <Bluey> hplip has some crazy dependencies iirc
[04:38] <Orpheus> Zykotick9 - how do I do that?
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> Orpheus, what program are you printing from?
[04:38] <Orpheus> openoffice document
[04:39] <Bluey> open office is pretty bloated
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> Orpheus, when you select Print in OO, in the Name section does it show your printer name or just Default Printer
[04:40] <sako> hey all, where is the menu.lst in ubuntu?
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> Orpheus, also verify that System / Admin / Printing is showing your printer ok
[04:40] <Orpheus> Zykotick9 - it has a name section, where the printer name is filled in, underneath that it has it enabled as the default printer for future print jobs, and underneath that it says CUPS:Photomsart 7600, which is the name of the printer.
[04:41] <Ghnuberath> sako: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:41] <john345> erver chatnet.sextracker.com
[04:41] <ZykoticK9> Orpheus, that all looks correct.  Sorry man, i gots nothing more for ya.
[04:41] <Orpheus> : \
[04:41] <Orpheus> must be my lucky night
[04:41] <Orpheus> :P
[04:42] <Ghnuberath> Orpheus: can you print a test page?  either through the Gnome printer manager or through $ lpr ?
[04:42] <Orpheus> i dont know how to use the lpr command... but i can try
[04:42] <Res2216firestar> I have a question, how can I force display to use 1024x768 even though it doesn't detect anything above 800x800?
[04:43] <innociv> How do I empty the contents of a directory, but not remove the directory itself?
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> innociv:  you mean keep  /stuff/file   but have the 'contents' of 'file' be blank?
[04:43] <innociv> yes
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> Res2216firestar, it's either a graphics card driver issue (you need to install better drivers) OR it's a monitor issue and it can be corrected with xorg
[04:44] <innociv> i have /dir/stuff1 /dir/stuff2 etc and delete all the stuff but dir stay
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> innociv:  proberly have to do some scripting for that using find and rm/touch   in combo.. as one way
[04:44] <shane__> hey all need some help
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> innociv:  delete? as in  you would no longer have just /dir/ but no /dir/stuff1 ?
[04:44] <shane__> i cant get my card reader working
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> shane__:  on some laptops -ive seen that not all slots work in all card readers.
[04:45] <mushuukyou> A problem.
[04:45] <Res2216firestar> ZykoticK9: When I used the nvidia drivers, it was stuck on 640x480, so what would be the relevant xorg setting?
[04:45] <Ghnuberath> Orpheus: I don't quite remember, but I don't think ti was that difficult.  I believe you have to specify the printer from /dev (like /dev/usblp0) and the file you want to print (use a raw text file)
[04:45] <mushuukyou> When I click to enable "desktop cube", my screen shrinks in.. and the mouse cursor is out of sink with what's on the screen.
[04:45] <shane__> That sucks is there a way i can get it workign
[04:46] <mushuukyou> synch
[04:46] <mushuukyou> sink = synch
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> shane__:  totally depends on the laptop and cardrader/chipset its using
[04:46] <Orpheus> Ghnuberath:  I tried "$lpr filename" and got the same response - the gnome system tray pops down a message saying "Not Connected?   Printer 'printername' may not be connected"
[04:46] <kilo> hey all!  anyone familiar with dual x screen setup?  I'm just trying to figure out how to run programs on my second x screen... everything defaults to "Screen 0"  :(:(:(
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  DISPLAY=0.1   PRogramToRun
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  or simthing like that...
[04:46] <shane__> How do i find the info o see if i can
[04:47] <kilo> Dr_Willis: thanks!!
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  i just use twinview. ive rarely seen a need for 2 X displays
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  it may be DISPLAY=1.0
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> or 2.0
[04:47] <kilo> Dr_Willis: unfortunately twinview is not good for gaming... the screen sizes get all messed up for me
[04:47] <mushuukyou> Ghnuberath, When I enable "desktop cube", the screen sinks in now.  It's out of synch with my mouse cursor.  If I disabled desktop cube, it goes back to normal.
[04:48] <shane__> i can see that card reader but it will not mount
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  ive seen it depends on the game and program.. some badly written ones are stupid and dont follow the standards right.
[04:48] <ZykoticK9> Res2216firestar, do you have 3D support currently?  Does "$ glxinfo | grep direct" say Yes?  Can you run glxgears?  Basically that would all have to be TRUE, then it's just a monitor detection issue which could, if need be, manually put into an xorg.conf file - but you'd need to know the technical specs of your monitor.
[04:48] <innociv> ah.. ill just delete them one at a time
[04:48] <Orpheus> Ghnuberath:  I dont know if this is related, but when i use lsusb to scan my usb drives, i it shows my usb mouse, but not myusb printer....
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> innociv:  if you just want to DELETE the files thats  doable with find, and the proepr arugments. :)
[04:49] <Ghnuberath> Orpheus: yeah. that's not good.
[04:49] <innociv> it was just 5 things this time at least
[04:49] <kilo> Dr_Willis: Well, I'm trying to play Wow and be able to browse the internet at the same time... unfortunately, WoW asks the OS what resolutions are available, and (with twinview enabled) the OS can only spit back 3360x 1050 (which is the resolution of BOTH monitors, side by side)
[04:49] <innociv> ifit was more i guess i'd just remove them mkdir lmao
[04:49] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: that is really weird stuff.  try googling your particular video card with compiz?
[04:49] <Orpheus> ....interesting....   : /
[04:49] <shane__> i can see the card reader but i can not mount it
[04:49] <kilo> Dr_Willis: hence why I'm stuck with dual X
[04:49] <Ghnuberath> Orpheus: does $ dmesg | tail say anything when you connect the printer?
[04:49] <mushuukyou> it worked fine before when I had ubuntu on here
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  i normally just run it in a window that way i can just mouse over to the 2nd monitor to do the browsing.
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  thats what i do for LOTRO all the time
[04:50] <kilo> Dr_Willis: I'd love to do that, but still run into the resolution problem
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  wow is setable  - you can just tell it what size window to use. or shouldbe able to..
[04:50] <kilo> Dr_Willis: wow doesn't seem to have default resolutions built in
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> been ages since i last messed with WoW
[04:51] <Res2216firestar> ZykoticK9, I both are true, and I know what resolutions, refresh rates, and color depths work on windows, so I'll try the xorg.conf
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  check the wine appdatabase, perhaps theres some wow configs you can tweak
[04:51] <Ghnuberath> mushuukyou: sorry, I'm out of ideas without seeing it for myself haha.  I'd just backup and nuke the ~/.compiz directory and try again
[04:51] <kilo> Dr_Willis: you can set it... to whatever resolutions the OS says are available  XD
[04:51] <soreau> Ghnuberath: FWIW, compiz doesnt store its settings in /.compiz
[04:51] <HorizonX1> hey, how do I install the video driver for my Intel 945G in jaunty?
[04:51] <dayeejeremy> hello
[04:52] <Ghnuberath> soreau: really? i thought it did?  is it in gconf instead?
[04:52] <dayeejeremy> hj
[04:52] <Ghnuberath> HorizonX1: it should work out-of-the-box
[04:52] <d9500> what is a good choice for a lightweight login manager to use on a fresh install of the LXDE desktop environment on top of a previously command-line only ubuntu installation? the gdm requires about 130 extra packages that i don't want to install just for a login manager.
[04:52] <soreau> Ghnuberath: If you install an additional plugin(s), it will install to /.compiz. The settings are saved on different locations depending on whih backend you use
[04:52] <kilo> Dr_Willis: unless there's a setting in xorg that I'm missing... I don't know if you can define resolutions there?
[04:53] <ZykoticK9> Res2216firestar, the xorg.conf is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- and the section you want is "Monitor" you'll need to add at least and appropriate HorizSync and VertRefresh lines -- be careful you can ruin your monitor this way!!!
[04:53] <HorizonX1> Ghnuberath: well, it's laggy, and compiz doesn't seem to want to work
[04:53] <Ghnuberath> ah
[04:53] <needhelp> ah
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  You can.. but the game is just reading what the system is tellingit.. WoW has so many config options/files I bet theres one you can edit to set the default res.
[04:53] <soreau> HorizonX1: You need help getting compiz to work?
[04:53] <Ghnuberath> HorizonX1: Jaunty had a huge regression in intel performance.  you need to revert your driver to the Intrepid version. worked for me on my netbook. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[04:54] <kilo> hmmm I'll look into it
[04:54] <needhelp> System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[04:54] <kilo> Dr_Willis: it sure would be nice to get back to twinview...
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> kilo, you do know that you can switch between twinview and single monitor in the same session using nvidia-settings and the Apply button right?
[04:55] <Ghnuberath> soreau: that is really unfortunate.  sure makes it more difficult to reset.  I guess an aptitude purge and reinstall might do it?
[04:56] <kilo> ZykoticK9: yes, you mentioned that before, but I'd really like to be able to browse the web, or otherwise use that second monitor.
[04:56] <HorizonX1> Ghnuberath: ok, trying it now
[04:56] <soreau> Ghnuberath: I assume the intel driver will be much better in Karmic
[04:56] <Ghnuberath> HorizonX1: it will remove your old intel driver.  you'll have to restart the computer
[04:57] <ZykoticK9> kilo well if you figure out how to run it in a windows instead of fullscreen you could do it.  Good luck.
[04:57] <Ghnuberath> soreau: I believe they've got the UXA stuff working almost as well as EXA used to.
[04:57] <soreau> Ghnuberath: For resetting compiz settings, you should always use ccsm>Preferences>Reset to Defaults
[04:57] <Ghnuberath> soreau: see now that's just cool.  never saw that. thanks!
[04:58] <nullr1> I give up on my admin acc every webpage and evolution load fine. In the other accounts which the internet worked on 2 days ago now it loads random pages and any web search renders the dreaded "connection reset". So my new question is. My home folder is in a separate partition if I install the new beta and mount that partition as my home partition will all of my stuff still work?
[04:58] <arielCo> Hello everyone.!  Xorg is reading the right settings for my Synaptics driver from the fdi policy file, but they aren't being honored. Any idea why? http://pastebin.com/d7b67e599
[04:58] <kilo> ZykoticK9: it is easy to get it to run in a window. that's not the problem. the problem is the resolution. unlike normal games, wow asks the OS for the available resolutions and Ubuntu is only kicking back the total resolution of both twinview monitors.
[04:58] <Ghnuberath> soreau: if you're curious about the progress of intel in karmic, phoronix has some good articles: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_q309_flakes&num=1
[04:58] <soreau> Ghnuberath: Let's hope they got uxa working just as well because that will be the only option from now on ;)
[04:58] <JGodbout> Hey dudes. I have just installed Jaunty, and the sound is not working in Amarok 2 at all. I have installed the codecs, and sound is working in everything else (rhythmbox, pidgin, etc.)
[04:58] <JGodbout> Any ideas?
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> kilo, AHHH Light comes on.  No - I still gots nothing for ya.
[04:59] <soreau> Ghnuberath: and finally, anywhere you see a yellow brown icon in ccsm, clicking it will reset that individual setting
[04:59] <Ghnuberath> JGodbout: i don't have Amarok 2 myself, but it may be worth making sure that it's sound preferences are set to use PulseAudio
[04:59] <Ghnuberath> JGodbout: instead of ALSA
[04:59] <soreau> Ghnuberath: Err.. Yellow Browm icon
[04:59] <Ghnuberath> soreau: haha, yeah i knew about that one ;)
[04:59] <soreau> Ghnuberath: Yellow Broom* sorry
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> kilo, actually could you add additional resolutions to your xorg.conf file?
[04:59] <kilo> ZykoticK9: hehehe   ;)    you see my dilema   ;)
[05:00] <chu_> Hey guys, when trying to install an icon set (Mist), by just dragging it into the Appearances window, I get the following error "Cannot move directory over directory" any idea what this means?
[05:00] <kilo> ZykoticK9: that's what I was thinking!  but I can't find any example syntax anywhere....
[05:00] <Guest36137> hey all
[05:00] <Guest36137> just installed eeebuntu on my asus 901, can't access the 12 SSD
[05:00] <Guest36137> any ideas
[05:01] <Ghnuberath> chu_: when you drag an icon set into the window, it extracts it to a directory.  maybe the directory already exists?
[05:01] <chu_> Ghnuberath, where would I search for this directory?
[05:01] <Ghnuberath> chu_: um... ~/.icons, /usr/share/icons
[05:02] <chu_> Cheers Ghnuberath
[05:02] <Ghnuberath> chu_: my pleasure :)
[05:02] <kilo> going to qitch back to twinview... brb
[05:02] <chalcedony> how would i play an mp4 on Jaunty ?
[05:02] <kilo> switch*
[05:02] <ZykoticK9> kilo,         Modes      "1400x900" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[05:02] <kilo> ZykoticK9: where do I add those? at the end?
[05:02] <Ghnuberath> chalcedony: you probably need the Ubuntu Restricted Extras
[05:02] <JGodbout> Ghnuberath: I can't actually find anywhere in Amarok 2 where I can change the sound device
[05:03] <Guest36137> any ideas anybody
[05:03] <Ghnuberath> chalcedony: you can find it in Add/Remove Applications
[05:03] <chalcedony> Ghnuberath, ok and?
[05:03] <Guest36137> im new at this
[05:03] <chalcedony> ah
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> kilo, no!  - could you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[05:03] <Guest36137> what do i put into terminal
[05:03] <JGodbout> Ghnuberath: I remember in Amarok 1.x I could change it, but I don't think I can in this. What should my sound settings be like (the ubuntu ones, not amarok)? I've been trying different combinations of ALSA/PulseAudio/AutoDetect etc.
[05:04] <chalcedony> Ghnuberath, do you know the name of something that will play them? i'm bad with guis
[05:04] <Ghnuberath> JGodbout: I haven't actually used Amarok 2, so I'm not familiar with the preferences window.  You want it to be using PulseAudio under Jaunty
[05:04] <Ghnuberath> Ghnuberath: you can use pretty much any music player.  Exaile, Amarok, VLC, MPlayer are all good choices
[05:04] <Guest36137> okay, who can help me
[05:04] <Ghnuberath> chalcedony: Oops, sent that to myself. you can use pretty much any music player.  Exaile, Amarok, VLC, MPlayer are all good choices
[05:05] <Ghnuberath> JGodbout: I'd be surprised if Autodetect didn't default to pulseaudio, but it may be worth explicitly setting it to use PulseAudio and seeing if it works then.
[05:05] <kilo> how do I pull up an old pastebin?   :P
[05:06] <Ghnuberath> JGodbout: also, it may be worth trying Amarok on its own (with no browsers or other sound-using applications open) to see if it plays.  Logging out and in again should knock out anything that could interfere.
[05:06] <Ghnuberath> JGodbout: if it works under those circumstances, I'd say that it's definitely using ALSA instead of pulse
[05:06] <Ghnuberath> JGodbout: or that you don't have the codec for the file you're trying to play ;) haha
[05:06] <JGodbout> Nah, I got all the codecs
[05:07] <Ghnuberath> JGodbout: then the pulse thing is still my best guess :)
[05:07] <Ghnuberath> JGodbout: sorry I can't be of more help.   The new GUI in Amarok 2 - and having the KDE libs in my memory all the time - kinda made me want to hurl so I switched to Exaile.
[05:07] <ska178> is it possible to destroy a laptop fan by using duster to clean a laptop?
[05:08] <Ghnuberath> ska178: if it's an industrial powered vacuum, I wouldn't stick my laptop near it.
[05:08] <angelus> is there a terminal command to put Linux to sleep
[05:08] <Ghnuberath> angelus: there is, but it's not as nice as $ sudo shutdown
[05:08] <Ghnuberath> angelus: from what I remember, you have to run the sleep script manually
[05:08] <angelus> Ghnuberath i sorta need it no matter how ugly it is ...
[05:08] <lstarnes> Ghnuberath: including thr $ in the command may be confusing to some users
[05:08] <lstarnes> *the
[05:08] <angelus> do you know where it is ??
[05:08] <ska178> ghnuberath: just canned air, the kind you get at the store to clean electronics. I cleaned my computer today and turned it on and the fan hasn't moved at all
[05:09] <Ghnuberath> angelus: but I can't remember where the sleep script is, sorry.
[05:09] <lstarnes> angelus: it might be sudo suspend
[05:09] <angelus> no worries .... i'll try taht lstarnes
[05:09] <JGodbout> Ghnuberath: Thanks for the help man, I will try those things
[05:09] <Ghnuberath> JGodbout: my pleasure. hope it works :)
[05:09] <lstarnes> angelus: wait, it isn't
[05:10] <angelus> gah ... no its not ... *googles script*
[05:10] <lstarnes> angelus: suspend suspends bash, not the system
[05:10] <angelus> lol for me "comman not foundd"
[05:10] <Ghnuberath> angelus: i think it's /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[05:10] <Ghnuberath> angelus: but I'd save your stuff before trying it ;)
[05:11] <Ghnuberath> lstarnes: you're probably right about the $.  it's a bad habit haha. hopefully people will call me on it if they're confused
[05:11] <Guest84168> hi
[05:11] <ska178> I cleaned my laptop with canned air today. I turned on my computer and the fan isn't moving. Is it possible that using canned air on a computer vent would break a fan?
[05:12] <Ghnuberath> ska178: I don't think canned air can break a fan.  I'd say it's very unlikely.  But that's just based on my experience.  Is the laptop hot?
[05:13] <mow> ska178 > something is probably stuck in the fan
[05:13] <angelus> >.> .... running the script does nothing >.>
[05:14] <DVS01> ska178: what probably happened is you ended up lodging some dust into the fan, causing it to get stuck
[05:14] <Like> hi
[05:14] <chu_> Yay! Thanks again Ghnuberath it all works fine now :)
[05:14] <chu_> See ya guys.
[05:14] <ska178> is it save to open a laptop and fix that? i've opened pc but never a laptop
[05:14] <r0b0tchicken> How do I disable ipv6 in 9.04, 2.6.28-15   ?
[05:14] <Ghnuberath> angelus: take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=410570
[05:14] <DVS01> yeah, just make sure you keep track of all the screws and stuff
[05:15] <Like> hi I install sugar
[05:15] <Like> in uruguay
[05:15] <Like> boys team
[05:15] <lstarnes> r0b0tchicken: why do you need to disable it?
[05:15] <angelus> YAY thanx Ghnuberath
[05:15] <ska178> dvs01: the only this is I have no idea how to crack open this presario..i've searched google and the hp forums and couldn't find anything helpful
[05:15] <Ghnuberath> angelus: hope it works :)
[05:16] <Ghnuberath> ska178: it can be very easy, or very hard, depending on the manufacturer.  HPs tend to have ALOT of screws.
[05:16] <Ghnuberath> ska178: I believe that HP offers a manual on their support page for each laptop, detailing how to dismantle it (with pictures)
[05:17] <kilo> ok, back on twinview.... now I just need to find a way to set xorg to be able to allow other programs to pull different resolutions other than 3360x1050... anyone have any ideas of the syntax for that?
[05:17] <Darkedge> Is Red Hat Or Florida right for me?
[05:17] <ska178> yeah, I've seen that link a lot but everyone I've clicked on was broken..I'll check again to make sure
[05:17] <Darkedge> I mean, In the way of speed?
[05:17] <Like> I NEED SOME KILO
[05:17] <r0b0tchicken> istarnes, because i don't need it
[05:17] <dan_> I'm new to ubuntu, and I'm looking for an application that will simulate a blank piece of graph paper which lets me plot points and make x y axises
[05:18] <Darkedge> :O Wrong channel, xD
[05:18] <Ghnuberath> dan_: do you mean by drawing with a mouse?
[05:18] <dan_> no not like in paint something more accurate that plots it on the point exactly
[05:18] <Ghnuberath> dan_: but not using a spreadsheet program?
[05:18] <dan_> can spreadsheet do this? i did not know...
[05:19] <shawn_> dan_ Yes
[05:19] <Ghnuberath> dan_: yes
[05:19] <dan_> sweet
[05:19] <dan_> lol
[05:19] <dan_> thx
[05:19] <dan_> peace <3
[05:19] <FloodBot2> dan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:19] <shawn_> dan_ Good luck
[05:19] <kilo> oh wow.... so running a virtual desktop seems to do the trick!!  anyone have any ideas how I can get the virtual desktop to run in the other monitor on twinview though??
[05:19] <ericzhang> 大家好啊
[05:20] <kilo> wow, ubuntu is so left-right oriented.... it really doesn't like it if your peripheral monitor's on the left, does it    :P
[05:20] <ericzhang> 貌似都是老外啊
[05:21] <bazhang> ericzhang, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[05:21] <infid> how do i see all the packages related to php i have installed?
[05:21] <Ghnuberath> kilo: usually there is a way to switch it, but since the contents of xorg.conf have been reduced, I'm not sure how it works anymore.
[05:21] <Ghnuberath> infid: Try using the Synaptic Package Manager.  search for packages where the package name involves "php"
[05:21] <angelus> to any of those interested, i found a much prettier solution >>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=813387, you want the post by _moo<<<
[05:21] <pete_> open synaptic
[05:21] <ericzhang> thank you
[05:21] <kilo> Ghnuberath: u mean since I switched to twinview?
[05:22] <pete_> infid, open synpatic, type php in search, hit installed
[05:22] <quentusrex_> I just had an ubuntu jaunty server crash,
[05:22] <quentusrex_> it fully rebooted.
[05:22] <quentusrex_> any idea how to try to figure out what went wrong?
[05:22] <infid> thanks
[05:22] <Like> why i got a Nautilus script
[05:22] <Ghnuberath> kilo: i just mean in general. Twinview, BigDesktop.  you're right about it defaulting to the left-right setup.  I gave up on trying to get multiple displays working a long time ago.
[05:22] <Like> even i click a window
[05:22] <Ghnuberath> kilo: so my knowledge on the subject is at least a year out of date :(
[05:23] <kilo> Ghnuberath: lol, you're killin me, man...
[05:23] <Like> kilo
[05:24] <infid> i did 'apt-get remove php5' but i still have php5 in both apache and the command line
[05:25] <infid> typing 'sudo apt-get remove php[tab]' seems to list the stuff related to php you have installed too
[05:25] <pete_> ok
[05:25] <Ghnuberath> infid: yes, it will list the packages you can remove which match what you've typed so far
[05:25] <Like> what is the best comand line for console unix
[05:25] <Like> ?
[05:25] <lstarnes> Like: bash is the de facto standard shell
[05:26] <angelus> is there a way to close xchat through the terminal ??
[05:26] <lstarnes> Like: zsh also has a lot of advanced features
[05:26] <lstarnes> angelus: killall xchat
[05:26] <angelus> thnanks ...
[05:26] <carlosgaldino> what is the best irc client for gnome?
[05:26] <Like> what command trafic zsh
[05:26] <lstarnes> carlosgaldino: probably xchat
[05:26] <angelus> xchat or irssi
[05:26] <Like> lstarnes,
[05:26] <lstarnes> Like: I don't understand what you mean by that
[05:26] <angelus> depends on what you prefer .. xD
[05:27] <carlosgaldino> lstarnes, i'm using it, but i'm having many problems to download with xchat
[05:27] <Like> what ar you best im tring too reinstall nautilus
[05:27] <lstarnes> carlosgaldino: are you using sudo apt-get install xchat?
[05:28] <carlosgaldino> lstarnes, i installed by synaptic
[05:28] <lstarnes> carlosgaldino: that should work too
[05:29] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[05:29] <kilo> heh
[05:29] <carlosgaldino> lstarnes, but every time i try to download some file the download never start, it frozes on status "starting"
[05:30] <lstarnes> carlosgaldino: see what happens when you do it through the terminal
[05:30] <lstarnes> carlosgaldino: you may need to use a different mirror in system > administration > software sources
[05:30] <kilo> anyone know when the #winehq channel actually has live bodies in it?   :P
[05:30] <carlosgaldino> lstarnes, how can i do it by the terminal?
[05:30] <lstarnes> carlosgaldino: see what I said earlier
[05:30] <lstarnes> carlosgaldino: sudo apt-get install xchat
[05:31] <carlosgaldino> lstarnes, ok, i'll try it
[05:32] <Miki800> hello
[05:32] <Miki800> is there anybody here?
[05:32] <soreau> nope
[05:32] <Miki800> anyone can assist me?
[05:33] <DigitalKiwi> someone
[05:33] <soreau> Not if you dont ask your question
[05:33] <DigitalKiwi> if you ask, might
[05:33] <Miki800> how smart of you
[05:33] <Miki800> anyways I've just installed 9.10 via wubi
[05:33] <Miki800> and I've booted into it
[05:33] <Miki800> instead of a complete installation, I see the desktop as I would when I'd boot from a live cd
[05:33] <DigitalKiwi> sarcasm will get you nowhere! >:(
[05:33] <Miki800> no I do not have a cd right now so I booted from the wubified installation
[05:34] <DigitalKiwi> !karmic
[05:34] <soreau> Miki800: What is missing exactly?
[05:34] <bazhang> Miki800, #ubuntu+1 for karmic support
[05:34] <Miki800> hello
[05:34] <Miki800> I accidently logged off
[05:35] <Miki800> who was just talking to me right now?
[05:35] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for karmic support Miki800
[05:35] <soreau> Miki800: What is missing from your wubi install exactly?
[05:35] <d9500> what package would I need to install in order to install the build and header files for my current kernel? I've already installed the linux-headers package for the running kernel, but I'm not sure what packages the "build" ones would be.
[05:35] <Miki800> oh thanks, bazhang, actually its the first time I'm IRCing, so I just type /join #ubuntu+1?
[05:35] <mkilo> thanks for the suggestions earlier.... I forgot how nice xchat is    XD
[05:36] <mneptok> Miki800: Karmic questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[05:36] <bazhang> Miki800, correct
[05:36] <soreau> d9500: I guess it would be the kernel src or source package if it exists
[05:36] <mneptok> soreau: FYI, #ubuntu is solely for questions on released versions
[05:36] <Miki800> and soreau - the thing that is missing is the username I chose when I was in XP, the only icon I have on desktop is  "Install Ubuntu 9.10" as expected from a live cd ... but I'm not in one.. so I'll go now to #ubuntu+1 and ask there...
[05:37] <soreau> mneptok: Of course. I didn't see anywhere he mentioned his version of ubuntu
[05:37] <soreau> Miki800: If you have 9.10, you need to ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:37] <brz> hey, if I have sshd installed on ubuntu, and want to display the current motd, what command would i execute? keeping in mind I want to do this as when I scroll up, the motd is gone!
[05:38] <mneptok> brz: cat /etc/motd && cat /etc/motd.tail
[05:38] <mkilo> anyone have any ideas how to move the virtual desktop in wine away from the left side of the screen?  or to switch which monitor it displays in in twinview?
[05:39] <mkilo> I'd ask in #winehq, but no one's awake in there   ;)
[05:41] <Ledif-Nieht> I am setting up Ubuntu for my mom to use and I want to make it as simple as possible, is there a way to make it so that there is only one desktop instead of the usual two?
[05:42] <soreau> Ledif-Nieht: That depends on which WM you're usig I guess
[05:42] <Ledif-Nieht> Nevermind, I figured it out.
[05:42] <Ledif-Nieht> Right click on the desktop navigation area, preferences.
[05:42] <Ledif-Nieht> Thanks.
[05:42] <varmont> hai all
[05:43] <d9500> soreau: that didn't work. I still get an error telling me that I need to install the build and header packages when I try to install the virtualbox guest additions in my ubuntu virtual machine
[05:44] <soreau> d9500: Which guest os are you using?
[05:45] <d9500> soreau: i'm using ubuntu as the guest OS.
[05:45] <soreau> d9500: Sorry, I meant host
[05:45] <d9500> archlinux
[05:46] <soreau> d9500: And you're trying to install guest addons in ubuntu?
[05:46] <gbear142751> so I setup my first headless server tonight.  Selected just the openssh server and virtual machine host as the services... anyone have any advice on anything else to do for my 1st headless install?
[05:47] <d9500> well, yes. I like the way arch starts with only a small base and lets you build on whatever you want, so I started the same sort of project with an ubuntu minimal, command-line only install, and add packages as I need them.
[05:47] <d9500> mostly just for the fun of it.
[05:47] <Mqueue> hello
[05:47] <innociv> how do i move dir/folder1/*contents to  dir/folder2?  Move on folder1 is going to make dir/folder2/folder1/*contents
[05:47] <Mqueue> i changed my hostname and now i can't login as root ? any suggestions ?
[05:47] <Miki800> hello
[05:47] <Jeruvy> !root | Mqueue
[05:47] <soreau> d9500: Seems like you're missing some package but not sure which. You might also try asking the the vbox channel
[05:48] <Miki800> is it possible for any known wubi installation to create a live-cd--ed desktop instead of the one configured by the wubi?
[05:48] <MeXTuX> When I type cat /proc/cpuinfo got cpu MHz: 2400.000 and I'm pretty sure my CPU is an Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz. What does it mean??
[05:48] <Jeruvy> Miki800: you shouldn't use wubi, instead use a real install, or a livecd version
[05:49] <soreau> MeXTuX: Means someone's lying there ;)
[05:49] <Miki800> I know that, yet I still need to know if such a mistake is possible
[05:49] <DrGenius> is there a way to make it automatically install dependent programs?
[05:49] <soreau> Miki800: With karmic not being released yet, anything's possible
[05:49] <Mqueue> i understand that root does not have a a password...i mean to say when i'm trying to switch user in terminal i can't login anymore
[05:49] <Miki800> lol
[05:49] <soreau> DrGenius: apt-get build-dep <pkg> IIRC
[05:50] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: no doubt, did you install 'root terminal' from synaptic?
[05:50] <DrGenius> thx soreau
[05:51] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>> yes i was working with apache and it was giving me some message about the hostname so i changed it using the hostname serverX.com from moe-desktop
[05:51] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>> now when i try to do sudo or su it says that my password is incorrect i'm confuesed as to what i did
[05:52] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: hmm is this an apache question about 'valid hostname', or an ubuntu question about root logins?
[05:52] <angelus> how do i check if my use input is empty ??
[05:52] <heyboy> I am trying to upgrade to 9.10 but getting error at "Setting Software Channels" stage and exiting. Any ideas?
[05:52] <coreyman> what is a good ftp server
[05:52] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>> well it was an apache issue but now i can't run synaptics or any other root tools
[05:52] <dragon> !karmic | heyboy
[05:53] <heyboy> Thanks
[05:54] <KnifeySpooney> I'm trying to use apport-collect to add to one of my bug reports, but I'm getting this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/289812/ . Anybody know how to fix this?
[05:54] <coreyman> !ftp | coreyman
[05:54] <innociv> how do i move dir/folder1/*contents to  dir/folder2?  Move on folder1 is going to make dir/folder2/folder1/*contents
[05:54] <innociv> mv rather
[05:54] <KnifeySpooney> innociv: mkdir dir/folder2/folder1
[05:55] <innociv> ?..
[05:55] <KnifeySpooney> then cp dir/folder1/* dir/folder2/folder1
[05:55] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: can you explain what you did exactly?  It shouldn't be hard to reverse it back.  Perhaps your hosts file needs to be fixed, or re-running hostname will fix it.
[05:55] <jetscreamer> trailing /
[05:55] <bullgard4> lsusb: "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:089d Logitech, Inc. Are the two numbers decimal numbers?
[05:55] <jetscreamer> hex
[05:56] <jetscreamer> 046d:089d <-hex
[05:56] <Mqueue> okay all i did was ran a command as root  "hostname serverX.com"
[05:56] <innociv> KnifeySpooney, that is omitting directories
[05:56] <jetscreamer> cp -R
[05:56] <jetscreamer> or cp -a .. man cp
[05:56] <innociv> ty
[05:57] <KnifeySpooney> innociv: oh, sorry didn't read that. cp -R is correct
[05:57] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>>  then it changed my hostname from "moe-desktop" to "serverX.com" but now i can't login with my root password anymore
[05:57] <jetscreamer> -R for sure, i forget what -a does
[05:57] <jetscreamer> i might be confusing it with something
[05:57] <DrGenius> how can i mount my windows raid0 partition under ubuntu?
[05:58] <jetscreamer> omg this is ubuntu how did that happen :)
[05:58] <jetscreamer> ah my >20 cahn limit didn't kick in
[05:58] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: which looks like a domainname, it should be like 'mybox' or qualified with a domain parameter ie: mybox.serverX.com
[05:58] <jetscreamer> chan
[05:58] <bullgard4> jetscreamer: What does lsusb output two hexadecimal numbers separated by a colon? What do the two numbers mean?
[05:58] <bullgard4> s/What/Why/
[05:59] <jetscreamer> it's the device id # i believe
[05:59] <skreeves> vendor and product IDs
[05:59] <jetscreamer> or what he said
[05:59] <jetscreamer> google it and it will come up
[05:59] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: so change it back: hostname mybox
[05:59] <bullgard4> skreeves: Thank you.
[06:00] <d9500> soreau: I found the package I need to install. It was the generic headers package instead of the one specific to the kernel
[06:00] <jetscreamer> ah that's better... >20 now
[06:00] <KnifeySpooney> I'm trying to use apport-collect to add to one of my bug reports, but I'm getting this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/289812/ . Anybody know how to fix this?
[06:00] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>> the problem is that i closed that terminal window where i was logged in with root password and now when i open a new window i run "su" and it says enter password so I enter the password and it says "Authentication failed"
[06:00] <shawn_> How can I get games that naturally run in Full screen to run in a window?
[06:01] <jetscreamer> sudo not su
[06:01] <jetscreamer> if you want to change the pw, sudo passwd .. frowned upon i believe
[06:01] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>> would you like me to pvt you the message i'm getting to have an idea ?
[06:02] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: ah, then my guess it to run recovery mode, press escape during a fresh (re)boot and select recovery options, that should get you a root shell
 shit i'm scared to reboot now that will kill the PC completely lol
[06:03] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: not at all
[06:03] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: and watch the language please..this is family friendly channel :)
[06:03] <Mqueue> oh i'm sorry
 just having a bad day lol
[06:04] <jony123> theres something wrong with the audio on my laptop so i was wondering is there a way mto force all the output audio threw the network and to my server(local network)?.
[06:04] <kraito> when i try and save my nvidia screen resolution i get this, Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'. , can anyone help with this?
[06:04] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: no worries.  try the recovery.  You can't fubar it any worse now :)
 so basically u're saying is that i should restart and select recovry mode instead of booting from live CD
[06:05] <wangside137> Hey there .. I'm the sysadmin for a beowulf cluster running Ubuntu, and I've recently been plagued by users overusing the LAN traffic (between the compute nodes and the head node).  The system will hang, and this always coincides with "nfsd" showing up at the top of "top".  Is it possible to decipher which users are hogging the network traffic??
[06:05] <_Andrew> Anyone where the artwork template for open office impress is? I want the gimp file specifically
[06:05] <DrGenius> how can i mount my windows raid0 partition under ubuntu?
[06:06] <Jeruvy> !fakeraid | DrGenius
[06:06] <jetscreamer> DrGenius: i'm not sure but i think you want to look at 'lvm
 okay let's kick it off and hope to god it works..thanks mate ;)
[06:06] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: cheers.
[06:07] <bullgard4> lsusb detects my newly bought usb webcam which I have plugged in. What Ubuntu 8.04 program will  trigger that my webcam takes a phot shot? What Ubuntu program will show this photo shot on my display screen?
[06:07] <bullgard4> s/phot/photo/
[06:07] <DrGenius> thx for ur help, but i'm not reading a 13 chapter book with 4 appendices just to mount this crap
[06:08] <Jeruvy> DrGenius: then I'd kill the raid0  and change it to JBOD
[06:09] <DrGenius> that might be feasible if i didn't have 600+gb of stuff with nowhere to back it up to
[06:09] <Jeruvy> DrGenius: with 1TB USB's going for under $100, that isn't a problem :)
[06:09] <kraito> \join #compiz
[06:10] <DrGenius> so to mount my raid0 partition i have to read a 13 chapter book or spend $100
[06:10] <DrGenius> why is linux so anal?
[06:10] <EvilAIM> what?
[06:10] <Jeruvy> DrGenius: I think your trolling
[06:10] <EvilAIM> I think you're an idiot...
[06:11] <DrGenius> i think you're trolling if your best suggestion is to read that or spend $100
[06:11] <shawn_> DrGenius nobody is forcing you to use Linux it's not for everyone and if you don't like it then switch to another OS.  Either way there's no point complaining about it here.
[06:11] <Jeruvy> DrGenius: because you are not factual, your pendantic
[06:12] <Jeruvy> like shawn_ said, the choice is yours.
 yippy it worked
[06:12] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: my man :)
  ok that's good i think it didn't change the host file but instead change the hostname variable so that's why when i rebooted it came back to the same place thank god
  thanks mate for the quick help ;)
[06:13] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: normally that isn't a dangerous command, but as you found it can be :)
 very..lol...it scared the living jeepers out of me
[06:14] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: glad it helped you out.
[06:14] <Bookman_> I have a remote machine on my local network that I'd like to log into via an x session.  Is this possible?  The remote machine does not have a user logged in and just hast the login screen displayed.
 thx take care :)
[06:15] <Dalix8> hi
[06:15] <DrGenius> i will try again with ubuntu v11 and see if it's any more conducive to productivity.  Not enough hours in the day to expend effort on technical matters that OS programmers are supposed to take care of.
[06:15] <Jeruvy> !hi | Dalix8
[06:16] <shawn_> !ot | DrGenius
[06:16] <Krux0> Bookman_, look up VNC, use one that integrates with X. I did it some time ago but i forgot.
 since we resolved this problem maybe u can help me with one too then
[06:16] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: you've got me for a few more minutes :)
[06:16] <DrGenius> for starters this dialog "can not install because you don't have x, y, z dependencies" -- why does ubuntu think i care?  if it has a problem, and knows the solution, why doesn't it just freaking do what it knows needs to be done!
[06:16] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>> what does this message means "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName"
[06:16] <Dalix8> Hi I am a new ubuntu user but I am having issues with my sound
[06:16] <Dalix8> can someone help me please
[06:16] <DrGenius> vista here i come peace
[06:17] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: that is a dumb bug, you can either ignore it or 'add' an entry to set the hostname so apache is not complaining.
[06:17] <Dalix8> :'(I dont have sound
[06:17] <Dalix8> Help
[06:17] <Dalix8> PLease
[06:17] <soreau> ! audio | Dalix8
[06:18] <Bookman_> Krux0: Yeah, I thought I did it before but I cannot remember how.
[06:18] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>> okay that's fine...but when i try to do phpinfo(); it says u wana open the file ?? why is that i installed php thru apt-get
[06:18] <Dalix8> Ty I will try
[06:18] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/353594
[06:19] <soreau> Bookman_: Look into gdmsetup
[06:19] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: thats another issue, offhand I think your missing a package
[06:20] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>> hmm...basically i was trying to get php and mysql going instead of using xampp
[06:20] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: for details check out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:20] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>> okay thx let me check that thx
[06:20] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: yw and good luck.
[06:21] <Bookman_> soreau: thanks, I will, but I'm actually looking into tightvnc at the moment.  I think it is what was looking for.  At least it appears to be on the surface.
[06:21] <Dalix8> Correct me if I am wrong, but I used to run freespire and I did not have any problems with the sound...  I believe that my hardware should also be  supported by UBUNTU correct?
[06:21] <soreau> Bookman_: AFAIK, vnc can only login to an X session that is already running a vnc server. GDM has an option for remote login through gdmsetup IIRC
[06:21] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>> yea i read that post...i didn't say much about php5 installation and what it said i tried apprently the packages are there but the php is not linked with apache somehow
[06:22] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: your missing something check the package requirements
[06:23] <Dalix8> I have install all the updates properly
[06:23] <Bookman_> soreau: Well alright then.  You might have just saved me some time!  Thanks.
[06:23] <Dalix8> but...
[06:23] <Dalix8> still not working
[06:24] <Dalix8> Music seems to be playing on the player but no sound :(
[06:25] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: or it could be a mismatched package (one for php4 when your using php5 for example)
[06:25] <Miki800> when launching a live-cd installation thats stuck, freezes.. and I want to destroy that process via system monitor whats the name of the process I should look for?
[06:25] <Dalix8> .
[06:25] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>> okay i tink i got it
[06:26] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>> that was quite simple...wicked u rock homes
[06:26] <soreau> Dalix8: Did you try ubottu's suggestion? Did you look at the link he gave you?
[06:26] <Dalix8> mmmm
[06:26] <xangua> Miki800: live cd¿ how much ram do you have¿
[06:26] <Mqueue> Jeruvy>> this helped http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/installing-php5-and-apache-on-ubuntu/
[06:26] <dmj727> I'm thinking of setting up a Karmic box, but I'm not sure if I should wait until the release or not.
[06:26] <Dalix8> ty
[06:26] <Dalix8> I ll be back
[06:26] <Miki800> @xangua ram? I don't have a problem with ram (have 4g) I just want to kill the installation process
[06:27] <Jeruvy> Mqueue: it does :)  sometimes the howtos there are a bit vague, but that one is good.
[06:27] <sako> can i get root access in ubuntu??
[06:27] <Miki800> @xangua and I'm not actually running this from a disk, this happend to be a wubi installation generating unexpected livecd desktop on the hardisk
[06:27] <sako> without sudo
[06:27] <dmj727> I would plan to keep the box around for a while, so I was wondering if installing the beta would have any lasting negative effects.
[06:27] <kermit> sako: set a root password with sudo passwd
[06:27] <sako> ah ty
[06:27] <kermit> sako: then you can login as root or su to root
[06:27] <Bookman_> soreau: Ok, I cannot seem to find out a good link to enable/use gdmsetup
[06:28] <Miki800> so the "Install" window, how do I kill it? whats the name of it's process I should look for?
[06:28] <xangua> Miki800: well i woult suggest create a partition to install linux
[06:29] <soreau> Bookman_: Just type 'gksu gdmsetup' in your terminal then click on the Remote tab
[06:29] <Billiard> Miki800, you can run the command xkill then click on the install window, if you really need to kill it
[06:29] <Miki800> @xangua thanks for the tip, I will do that as soon as I finish checking out this simple safe way of using ubuntu without risk of destroying MBR or ntldr :)
[06:29] <Miki800> @Billiard thanks so much :)
[06:30] <hipitihop> I'm running latest karmic beta (mythbuntu) which by default uses xfce. Recently the task bar on top always shows whereas it used to not be visible when another app has focus, any ideas how to reinstate ?
[06:30] <emspace> i'd like a CLI way for user1 to "su -s /bin/sh --login user2". I can add it to sudoers, and it works, but I then want to make it an easy command. but if I alias the command, running the alias doesn't match the sudoers file. Any thoughts on a nicer solution?
[06:30] <xangua> !karmic | hipitihop
[06:30] <Bookman_> soreau: ok, that is fine for the server, how do I access the server from the client?
[06:31] <soreau> Bookman_: No idea. I never used it before ;)
[06:31] <Bookman_> soreau: ah, got you
[06:31] <dmj727> ubottu: would it be better to ask my quesion in #ubuntu+1?
[06:32] <Jeruvy> dmj727: if you like things breaking, then sure and ask questions in #ubuntu+1, but it's only 20 days away..
[06:32] <hipitihop> xangua: are you saying because it is beta then nobody knows how to resolve
[06:33] <kilo> anyone have a recommendation for something to replace Gnome Panels?
[06:33] <Jeruvy> hipitihop: no, it's offtopic for this channel is what you've been told.  Please join us in #ubuntu+1
[06:33] <Dalix8> A little question....What is apache2 for?
[06:33] <kilo> they're driving me nuts....
[06:33] <lstarnes> Dalix8: it's a web server
[06:33] <xangua> why kilo ¿
[06:33] <korin43> kilo: What do you want to do? If you want something dock-like (think OSX) try gnome-do
[06:34] <Dalix8> would that help me with my sound problem?
[06:34] <lstarnes> Dalix8: I don't see how a web server could help with sound
[06:34] <Dalix8> my neither
[06:34] <kilo> ya, I'd like something that just has "applications" "Places" "System" and a few shortcuts, but it a more modifiable or moveable medium
[06:34] <Dalix8> I was looking for help
[06:35] <Dalix8> because I dont have soound
[06:35] <kilo> korin43, I'll check out gnome-do, thx
[06:35] <Dalix8> I was given alink with that
[06:35] <lstarnes> Dalix8: do you know what kind of sound card you have?
[06:35] <Dalix8> mmmm
[06:35] <lstarnes> Dalix8: try lspci | grep -i audio
[06:35] <korin43> kilo: If you want something like a gnome-panel but with different content, you can just rearrange or add/remove from the default panels (I usually remove the top panel and put everything I want on the bottom one, then use gnome-do for shortcuts)
[06:35] <Dalix8> k
[06:36] <Dalix8> here it is
[06:36] <Dalix8> ﻿lspci | grep -i audio
[06:36] <kilo> korin43, I'm running dual monitors and I can't get the panels to go to the monitor I want them on... they kinda get in the way   :-\
[06:37] <korin43> kilo: I'm not used to working with two monitors.. is the problem that they are on both monitors and you want them only on one?
[06:37] <xangua> kilo: have you tried alt key + grab the panel/s ¿ ...
[06:37] <Dalix8> ﻿C-media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev10)
[06:37] <Dalix8> that is my sound card
[06:37] <kilo> xangua, ... you're a friggin genius...
[06:37] <lstarnes> Dalix8: is that the full line that you get?
[06:38] <Resistol> what is currently the most useable (deployable) open source electronic health record?
[06:38] <Dalix8> nope
[06:38] <Dalix8> here is the rest
[06:38] <Dalix8> 00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[06:38] <Dalix8> 00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[06:38] <Dalix8> dalix@dalix-desktop:~$
[06:38] <kilo> korin43, I just couldn't move them to the other monitors... xangua solved that for me   ;)
[06:38] <Dalix8> that is it
[06:38] <korin43> kilo: Sweet :)
[06:38] <soreau> Bookman_: I did a bit of googling and I think this may be of help to you http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/04/16/linux-remote-desktop-part-2-connect-to-gdm-or-kdm-login-screen-using-vnc/
[06:39] <korin43> I'm trying to learn GTK+ and have no ideas for things to make as practice. Does anyone have any ideas of things that would relatively simple to do? (and not pointlessly easy like Hello World apps)
[06:40] <kilo> xangua, I meant those statements completely as a thank you   ;)
[06:40] <Bookman_> soreau: Hey, thanks, greatly appreciated.  I was googling away as well!
[06:41] <bullgard4> What program will allow me to manipulate the items in the GNOME menu hierarchy ?
[06:41] <lstarnes> Dalix8: I'm not sure how to set up that model of sound card
[06:42] <skreeves> bullgard: System / Preferences / Main Menu
[06:42] <Dalix8> Can someone assist me , Please I dont have sound.. This is my sound card: ﻿Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[06:42] <Dalix8> (11:38:32 PM) dalix: 00:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)
[06:43] <bullgard4> skreeves: Ah, thank you very much for your help.
[06:43] <innociv> how do i run an install.sh file?
[06:43] <Dalix8> I think the sound card is fine
[06:44] <Dalix8> Because I had freespire and worked fine
[06:44] <xangua> innociv: what do you want to install¿
[06:44] <Bluey> innociv chmod +x install.sh
[06:44] <innociv> aped
[06:45] <jjmor5> anyone know if anyone is working on tv wonder 650
[06:45] <kilo> well, that was the final step... FINALLY got WoW to work in Twinview with acceptable visual settings!  Thanks everyone for your help!!
[06:46] <Dalix8> ﻿Is there a big difference between freespire and ubuntu when it comes to sound?
[06:47] <jjmor5> what is wow ?
[06:48] <scunizi> jjmor5: World of Warcraft.. large online game you pay money monthly for
[06:48] <jjmor5> ok thanks
[06:49] <jjmor5> what is the main diff between 904 and 910 ?
[06:50] <Dalix8> Please I need help with no sound!!:'( ﻿This is my sound card: ﻿Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
[06:50] <korin43> jjmor5: 9.04 is stable, 9.10 isn't.
[06:50] <scunizi> jjmor5: stable vs. beta ... latest release vs. next release
[06:51] <jjmor5> is it a major upgrade from 904 when finished ?
[06:51] <sako> what does /opt stand for?
[06:52] <scunizi> jjmor5: major? not really.. just another step.. the one after will be considered LTS "Long term support".. there's a release every 6 months.. most are supported for only 18 months.. the LTS version is supported for 3 years.
[06:53] <jjmor5> i use 904 but dont see a lot of upgrades from 904 to 910 unless i missed something !
[06:53] <korin43> jjmor5: The updates will be available when 9.10 is stable (it's not out yet)
[06:54] <jjmor5> i usually go every other one on my installs
[06:54] <scunizi> jjmor5: there are notes on the difference planed.. there's always backend stuff you never really realize is there unless it interfears with somethign
[06:54] <korin43> jjmor5: When 9.10 comes out, the updater will prompt you to update, and it will be just like any other update, except bigger. I tested it, and it won't look noticeably different. The main change will be that all of your programs will be updated to more recent versions.
[06:55] <dallix1> I am having a problem with gnome applets in ubuntu 9.04 ppc here is a screenshot : http://www.zshare.net/info.html?66745305-889d11157f9c006cf664d70ebfabd541
[06:55] <jjmor5> sorry i meant ubuntu itself what improvements from 904 to 910, sorry about that
[06:56] <dallix1> i get a screen that looks like that when ever I boot, is there anything I can do to restart those applets?
[06:56] <skreeves> jimor5: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/TechnicalOverview
[06:56] <jjmor5> ok thanks i am going there
[06:57] <Mainfiyel> good morning
[06:58] <rgmz> how to change a login theme using terminal
[06:58] <skreeves> The boot splash screen looks cooler.  :)
[06:59] <vebry> wan an..............
[06:59] <rgmz> how to change a login theme using terminal
[06:59] <Maelos-> Hi guys.  Will I be able to upgrade fairly easily from the karmic beta to final once it's available?
[06:59] <Enriquei> what should I put in the server_args for /etc/xinetd.d/xvnc so that if user A is physically logged in and the screen is displayed on a monitor, when someone logs in via VNC as user A, they both share the same desktop?
[06:59] <Mainfiyel> i need some help: yesterday evening i made an upate of the intel drivers from xorg-edgers and now my nb only starts in 800x600 because it cant find any modeline or the config for display
[07:00] <xinyou> _bt  bt?
[07:07] <roger_b> when you left click and drag your mouse on the desktop, can you change the look of that
[07:08] <eduardo> Hey there, I'm on eeebuntu and my sound has suddenly gone away. =[
[07:10] <Eso> anyone? help with my no-sound problem?
[07:10] <Qayos> Eso-  try unmute?
[07:11] <Eso> Qayos: i've turned lineout all the way up. no good.
[07:11] <Eso> and it's not muted
[07:11] <Enriquei> lineout?
[07:11] <Enriquei> =\
[07:12] <roger_b> what sound card you have
[07:13] <Eso> roger_b: I've no idea. but it was working fine until a couple hours ago
[07:14] <roger_b> Eso have you changed anything since it last worked
[07:14] <Eso> roger_b: i muted it. when i tried to unmute it no longer worked
[07:15] <Eso> I also installed some update but i don't recall what it was called
[07:15] <Qayos> hah, i was right! ;)
[07:15] <Qayos> try rebooting?
[07:15] <Eso> I've rebooted. did not work
[07:16] <Eso> i rebooted into my winXP partition and that had sound working just fine.
[07:17] <roger_b> Eso i know from person expierence on a nvidia board, i've updated sound and the digital sound was enable
[07:17] <roger_b> so i had to untick it
[07:17] <roger_b> but your case might be different
[07:17] <Eso> roger_b: how i could i try that?
[07:18] <SuspectZero> is there way i can simulate the effects of an apt-get upgrade?
[07:18] <roger_b> Eso volume control preferences
[07:18] <Flannel> SuspectZero: What do you mean by simulate?
[07:18] <Brainy|phpBB> Anyone know when the packs of CDs for 9.10 go on sale/are available for ordering?  Clearly they can't ship until code release, but it would be nice to be able to pre-order
[07:19] <SuspectZero> Flannel, like in gentoo there is a pretend option for emerge
[07:19] <Eso> roger_b: go on...
[07:19] <Maelos-> SuspectZero: -s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act
[07:19] <roger_b> Eso try this, bring up your volume control, click on the preferences at the bottom
[07:19] <SuspectZero> ah awesome
[07:19] <SuspectZero> ty
[07:19] <Flannel> SuspectZero: Right.  --simulate will work, there's other synonyms
[07:19] <SuspectZero> thanks
[07:20] <roger_b> Eso see if you have an IEC958 switch
[07:20] <KruyKaze> i just formatted a terabyte drive with ext4 and gparted says 14gigs used how come?
[07:20] <Eso> roger_b: nope
[07:21] <roger_b> Eso without knowing your sound card it's difficult to track down the problem
[07:21] <roger_b> Eso if it's not as simple as mute
[07:22] <Eso> roger_b: it's not muted. How can ifind out what my sound card is?
[07:22] <jony123_> Hey i was wondering if it would be possible to route all audio through another computer.
[07:22] <KurtKraut> jony123, yes, PulseAudio has this feature.
[07:23] <jony123_> KurtKraut: Cheers
[07:23] <grendal_prime_> here is one ive never seen before
[07:23] <roger_b> Eso device manager
[07:23] <grendal_prime_> when i try and fire up an x11 app from remote i get this
[07:23] <grendal_prime_> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[07:24] <grendal_prime_> ive googled it but non of the possible fixes work
[07:24] <BioVorE> grendal_prime_: need to allow it?  xhosts allow maybe?
[07:24] <grendal_prime_> really?
[07:24] <grendal_prime_> on the server?
[07:25] <Eso> roger_b: "hardware drivers" shows absolutely nothing
[07:26] <roger_b> Eso device manager
[07:26] <Eso> roger_b: where do i find that?
[07:26] <roger_b> Menu->System Tools
[07:27] <Eso> roger_b: menu?
[07:27] <grendal_prime_> nope it wont even let me run that..for some reason i get the same error
[07:27] <KruyKaze> can anyone help me format a drive?
[07:27] <grendal_prime_> and xhost is not an x11 app
[07:28] <roger_b> Eso Main Menu -> System Tools
[07:28] <grendal_prime_> hmm loged out and back in
[07:28] <grendal_prime_> seems to work great now thanks man!
[07:29] <grendal_prime_> or...well woman if you are a woman.
[07:29] <KruyKaze> please help me format a drive
[07:29] <Eso> roger_b: system > prefrences, system > administration. neither has "system tools"
[07:30] <Eso>  /facepalm. applications > system tools
[07:30] <Eso> roger_b: there's no device manager there
[07:31] <roger_b> Eso hit alt+f2 and type in the box to run gnome-device-manager
[07:31] <Eso> roger_b: Error stating file '/home/eduardo/gnome-device-manager': No such file or directory
[07:32] <roger_b> Eso i gotta hit the sack dude, sorry, maybe try alsa or pulseaudio channel
[07:32] <Eso> alright. thanks anyways
[07:33] <Eso> i'll try the forums
[07:35] <nic1> hi..any one here use xfce on ubuntu?
[07:36] <cpt> Hello, people, I have removed uuid in fstab, how can i get uuid again?
[07:38] <nc_> hello
[07:38] <nc_> can somebody help me with something ?
[07:39] <cpt> I listen to you...
[07:39] <KB1JWQ> nc_: Whatever you do don't ask an actual question.
[07:39] <nc_> there is this problem with my X11 ... I see this strange pixel here ... do you know what it could be that is causing it ?
[07:39] <nc_> i took a screenshot here http://bit.ly/1246mk
[07:40] <korin43> is there any way to make XChat not show all the join/quit messages?
[07:40] <dux70> #ubuntu-it
[07:40] <cpt> And answer my actual question: I have removed uuid in fstab, how can i get uuid again? May it be create or know?
[07:40] <pngll> I'm having trouble setting up a public key authentication system with a new user. On the client side, I get Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive). In the server logs: Failed publickey for <user> on port xxxx.
[07:42] <korin43> if anyone else clicked nc's link, type alt+f2, type terminal, hit enter, type pkill <browsername>
[07:42] <esun`> Q
[07:42] <nc_> ho ho ho ho ho ho ho
[07:42] <KB1JWQ> Sorry about the noise.
[07:42] <cpt> People, has anybody answer to my question?
[07:43] <jetscreamer> cpt
[07:43] <jetscreamer> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[07:43] <jetscreamer> edit to taste in the form of
[07:43] <jetscreamer> UUID=whatefver
[07:43] <ryguy> I cant get ubuntu 9.04 to download and install my display driver. When I click on System>Admin>Hardware Drivers, it finds "ATI/AMD FGLRX graphics driver" but when it install it crashes
[07:43] <jetscreamer> instead of /dev/blah
[07:46] <ryguy> brb restart
[07:47] <nic1> what is the command too check sys configurations?
[07:48] <cpt> jetscreamer, I have edited: I have removed uuid in fstab and I want to come it back...
[07:48] <jetscreamer> cpt: kinda like this, but change the number to what you see with ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid for the disk you want :
[07:48] <jetscreamer> UUID=e56ffbde-0944-4e92-bc2d-6d89d24e544a	/	jfs	defaults,errors=remount-ro	0 1
[07:49] <jetscreamer> instead of /dev/sda2	/	jfs	defaults,errors=remount-ro	0 1   or whatever
[07:49] <jetscreamer> change the jfs to be your filesystem, and / to wherever you're mounting it
[07:49] <jetscreamer>  / if it's root
[07:49] <cpt> I know
[07:49] <jetscreamer> wel there ya go.. gtg
[07:52] <grendal_prime_> ugg
[07:52] <cpt> jetscreamer,ls: it is not possible to get access to /dev/sda4/by-uuid: Not a directory
[07:52] <Animagladius_> Night
[07:54] <cpt> UUID=e56ffbde-0944-4e92-bc2d-6d89d24e544a / jfs defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 it is from fstab? Syntax likely /etc/fstab
[07:54] <cpt> and I know directories' names in Linux
[08:02] <cpt> jetscreamer, thank you!
[08:06] <concretesledge> i need help!
[08:07] <kj4> hello all
[08:07] <Willyyyyyyyyyyy> moin
[08:08] <DigitalKiwi> why does your name have so many ys
[08:11] <blankhead> whats the codename for ubuntu 9.04
[08:13] <lavee> Lavee
[08:13] <lavee> oop
[08:13] <lavee> hi
[08:13] <lavee> what is this
[08:13] <lavee> ???
[08:13] <alkisg_1> How can I add a *dos* encoding (cp737) to the list of charsets supported by gnome-terminal?
[08:13] <lavee> what the heck.... how old are u people
[08:14] <lavee> ????
[08:15] <lavee> hi
[08:15] <mew-chan> quick question, if on root, how does one change pass for userA
[08:15] <alkisg_1> mew-chan: sudo passwd usera
[08:15] <leo> I want to enable routing in ubuntu. I have enabled net.ipv4.ip_forward=1. How do I enable forwarding to the other interface?
[08:16] <mew-chan> passwd
[08:16] <mew-chan> thanks
[08:16] <lavee> hello???
[08:16] <lavee> how do u talk to people on here
[08:17] <alkisg_1> lavee: we hear you. This channel is for technical ubuntu questions
[08:17] <abongile> Hi All, I can't get networking, leds at back of NIC working, cable work but no networking in Ubuntu netbook remix. Have tried /etc/init.network/ restart and I get an error grep:/etc/resolv.conf: No such file or directory. Please help.
[08:17] <lavee> oh ok... bye
[08:17] <concretesledge>  is there an older version of linux that will work good on a pentium 3 , with 256mb ram
[08:19] <RPG_Master> I am having some issues with Gnome-MPlayer
[08:19] <RPG_Master> It won't play ANYTHING :(
[08:19] <RPG_Master> I can open a file in it but as soon as it loads the file it says "stopped"
[08:19] <RPG_Master> help me :(
[08:20] <RPG_Master> Also, I can't get normal MPlayer to load :/
[08:20] <RPG_Master> click on it in my applications menu does nothing
[08:24] <abongile> Hi All, please help, I can't get networking working. I am new to linux. Lights NIC working, Cable works with other comps, /etc/init.networking/ restart does help and error grep: etc/resolve.conf: No such file or directory. The NIC is on board, how do I solve this problem? Thank you
[08:25] <jmuir> hello
[08:26] <FireCrotch> abongile: try creating the file /etc/resolv.conf - that error message should go away
[08:29] <abongile> FireCrotch: I am new to linux, so I need a dummies guide to sorting out the problem: What would the file (/etc/resolve.conf) have to contain? Do I really need it, if yes why? Would it then solve my networking problem?
[08:30] <iceroot> abongile: its containing your nameservers
[08:30] <FireCrotch> abongile: /etc/resolv.conf typically contains a line that gives the address of your nameserver
[08:31] <iceroot> abongile: syntax is:   nameserver ip-adress-of-the-server
[08:31] <FireCrotch> abongile: If the file just plain doesn't exist, stuff breaks because it looks for that file.
[08:31] <FireCrotch> abongile: I assume that you're on a home network, in which case, the address that you should use is the IP of your router
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> my  /etc/resolv.conf
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/f22e527dc
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> for an example. It has 2 opendns entries.. and my home router.
[08:33] <FireCrotch> Dr_Willis: Won't those two opendns entries just be ignored 99% of the time, since your router will consult your ISP's nameservers?
[08:34] <FireCrotch> Dr_Willis: Unless your router is set up to use the OpenDNS servers
[08:34] <dux70> #ubuntu-it
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> FireCrotch:  its set to use them also. :)
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> FireCrotch:  actually i think this box got them from the router and put tim in the reslov.conf
[08:36] <DrMorgue> hi
[08:36] <Stronze> i cant get my externel dvd drive to work.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/289871/
[08:37] <DrMorgue> i cant make flash work for facebook & youtube..any hint?
[08:41] <franck> Hi
[08:41] <wazzup> hi franck. were you talking to me?
[08:42] <franck> I'm not sure what's happening my server has gone crazy, I cannot have an application opening new sockets
[08:42] <franck> I don't see anything in the logs
[08:43] <franck> I restart ssh and it just hangs there... waiting
[08:43] <franck> and no socket is open
[08:43] <franck> arghhhh.....
[08:43] <wazzup> anyone use Miro? It seems like the homepage is down. specifically, the "Miro Guide" and "Miro Audio Guide" will not load anything.
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> wazzup:  i noticved that earlier today also
[08:44] <wazzup> when i click the open in browser button i get: "Secure Connection Failed" and "Peer's Certificate has been revoked."
[08:44] <Dr_Willis> sounds like server issues to me
[08:44] <Stronze> i cant get my externel dvd drive to work.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/289871/
[08:45] <wazzup> Dr_Willis: Yeah most likely. I was just checking to make sure it was on my end
[08:45] <wazzup> wasn't*
[08:45] <al_> EVening peoples!!!!
[08:45] <al_> been busy here tonight???
[08:45] <wazzup> hi
[08:46] <wazzup> al_: no idea, i just got on
[08:46] <al_> hey wazzup, ah k
[08:47] <al_> as a newbie, i have to admit, now that I have persisted with it I am really begining to like Ubuntu
[08:47] <al_> still a long way to go, but getting there
[08:48] <wazzup> I switched from windows about a year ago. I still got plenty of stuff that I really want to learn, but I'm a complete fan of linux now
[08:48] <Stronze> wazzup - same for me. been a year
[08:49] <wazzup> I joined the army and am shipping out at the end of the year. My position is Information Technology, so i'm hoping that they use linux enough that i can get in on that
[08:50] <mew-chan> As root whats the command to via ALL users ?
[08:50] <sako> wazzup: what country?
[08:50] <mew-chan> ie if i wanted to know the names of the accounts
[08:50] <mew-chan> i tried users
[08:50] <mew-chan> and it only gave me my name back
[08:50] <lstarnes> mew-chan: look in /etc/passwd
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> or in /home
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> !info mmpong-gl
[08:51] <wazzup> al_: USA
[08:51] <wazzup> I'll be a good ole imperialist soldier
[08:51] <sako> wazzup: good luck, and thank you for your services in advance :)
[08:51] <sako> wazzup: ppl like you keep this country a pleasure to live in.
[08:51] <wazzup> oops sorry that was sako
[08:52] <wazzup> thanks :)
[08:54] <wazzup> What's weird is that every computer I've seen the Army use so far is Windows. It seems like a weird choice with all of the security vulnerabilities
[08:54] <goose> wazzup: idiot friendly OS
[08:55] <joaopinto> !ot
[08:55] <mew-chan> i've got root access yet i can't change the pass of non root
[08:55] <joaopinto> mew-chan, sudo passwd user
[08:56] <wazzup> goose: yeah. they lock them down like crazy too. all of the recruiters computers take about five minutes to boot!
[08:56] <mew-chan> AH! i was doing it wrong i was doing sudo user passwd thanks
[09:00] <don_martino_> can anybody help me with this http://paste.debian.net/48674? i can't get the umts-connection working using networkmanager.
[09:03] <innociv> chmod +x install.sh doesn't seem to execute the file.  It's basically like a text file with bash commands in it
[09:04] <goose> innociv: chmod +x just sets it as executeable
[09:04] <innociv> Then how do I execute it?
[09:04] <goose> in terminal: cd ~/dir/where/.sh/file/is, then ./blahblah.sh
[09:04] <goose> or maybe it's "sh blahblah.sh"
[09:04] <goose> one of the two
[09:04] <Qayos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Feisty   <--- says to do "upgrade" and not "dist-upgrade" but then talks about kernels... which are kept-back for non dist-upgrade, right?
[09:04] <innociv> ah
[09:04] <Qayos> or am i missing something?
[09:04] <mlissner> Hi, is there an easy way to reset the umask value for a user?
[09:05] <foofish> innociv: or bash /path/to/shellcript.sh
[09:05] <innociv> ./shellscript.sh did it
[09:05] <innociv> ty
[09:05] <goose> you're welcome
[09:05] <goose> that's the first time I've ever done #ubuntu support (that worked) while drunk
[09:06] <Flannel> Qayos: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will work just fine
[09:06] <Qayos> okay, thats not what the help page says to do... thanks though
[09:07] <Flannel> Qayos: right, someone got confused apparently
[09:07] <Qayos> ok, thanks... i'm not really experienced with this stuff, and so am highly skeptical when what I think disagrees with the docs (usually means i'm wrong)
[09:08] <vadmin> hello
[09:09] <foofish> mlissner: put a umask statement in the shell startup file, i guess
[09:11] <mlissner> foofish: yeah, I finally found it after hunting around for far too long /etc/profile
[09:11] <mlissner> foofish: If I just ask on IRC, the hunted thing always resolves itself immediately. Thanks for the help.
[09:11] <mnaines> Is there a program I can use to zero-out a hard drive?
[09:11] <mlissner> mnaines: dd
[09:11] <Billiard> lol
[09:11] <mnaines> mlissner: dd?
[09:12] <mlissner> mnaines: yeah, I'm no expert, but you can use dd something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd1
[09:12] <mlissner> mnaines: or something like that.
[09:12] <mlissner> mnaines: BUT IT WILL DELETE EVERYTHING.
[09:13] <mnaines> Can I choose which drive it deletes?
[09:13] <foofish> mnaines: i guess you really want shred
[09:13] <mlissner> yeah, that's what /dev/sd1 refers to, roughly.
[09:14] <foofish> mnaines: which attempts to securely delete individual files
[09:14] <mlissner> mnaines, foofish: maybe, if random data is what's wanted, there's /dev/random
[09:14] <mnaines> foofish, apparently there are remnants of old partition tables left on the drive, taking up about 2.7GB of space
[09:15] <mlissner> mnaines: you might have better luck with gparted
[09:15] <mnaines> mlissner: Nope...Tried that
[09:15]  * Blank__ wonders if it's worth enlarging his swap partition
[09:15] <mlissner> mnaines: oh, well...try dd...my syntax isn't right, but it's close.
[09:15] <rot> Hello. In nautilus, I can go into properties and change the icon of a folder to a custom one. Can the same be done from the commandline? I want to use it in a script
[09:15] <foofish> mnaines: i'm not sure what zeroing out partitions that you can't access anyway will achieve...
[09:16] <Flannel> mnaines: shred can do it
[09:16] <foofish> mnaines: what happened when you tried gparted?
[09:16] <mnaines> I tested the disk through testdisk and apparently the old partition tables are ghosts and its an NTFS map
[09:16] <mnaines> It says the partitions are marked as deleted
[09:17] <foofish> mnaines: can you not create a new partition in the unused space?
[09:17] <mnaines> I can create a partition in the unused space, but it says that there is 2.6GB used after I am done
[09:17] <alfatau> hello, i'm trying to migrate my workbench from a windows xp platform to an ubuntu one. I'm looking for some applications wich can be an equivalent replacement of windows' ones. The actually most important are: MikTex and TeXnic Center and Windows Media Player (or another audio player wich supports fast playback without changing pitch). Can you advise some good app to me? thanks
[09:18] <mnaines> Apparently, fdisk is saying the data starts at sector 63 instead of sector 1
[09:18] <bain> alo
[09:18] <mneptok> alfatau: look at LyX
[09:18] <foofish> mnaines: odd. not sure i can help, but maybe dumping the output fdisk -l into a pastebin will clarify things
[09:18] <foofish> *of
[09:18] <MenZa> alfatau: As for MikTeX, texlive (which is in Ubuntu) is far better. For editors, there are several around you can use. Windows Media Player... not a clue.
[09:18] <MenZa> mneptok: You're a bad, bad man.
[09:19] <MenZa> mneptok: Suggeting LyX to someone who obviously enjoys coding it all by hand. Bad, bad mneptok!
[09:19] <leo> When I try to ./configure proxychains, it says "checking for working aclocal-1.4... missing". How to fix this
[09:20] <mneptok> MenZa: people that code TeX by hand do not need anything more than a text editor
[09:20] <foofish> alfatau: you shoudl check out emacs + auctex, too, while you're at it: apt-get install preview-latex should pull in a lot of goodies
[09:20] <MenZa> mneptok: indeed. TeXnicCenter is nice, though; gives you buttons for compiling to PDF, DVI, etc., as well as just building bibtex indexes and such. It's quite nifty.
[09:21] <foofish> MenZa: once you get over the learning curve, you have all that jazz in auctex
[09:21] <mneptok> MenZa: and it's hardly doing it "by hand"
[09:21] <mneptok> (TeXnic Center)
[09:21] <MenZa> foofish: Not everyone enjoys the horror of Emacs.
[09:21] <MenZa> mneptok: I write all my code by hand in TeXnicCenter.
[09:22] <MenZa> However, this is... straying.
[09:22]  * MenZa coughs.
[09:22] <Qayos> alfatau-  try kile
[09:22] <MenZa> Kile is supposed to be really good yeah.
[09:22] <Qayos> it is the one i see most recommended for LaTeX in Linux
[09:22] <Qayos> I have it installed, tested it out a tiny bit, but not much... will be using it more over the next few months.
[09:23] <alfatau> mneptok: I know Lyx, it's available for windows too, but it's not what i'm looking for: i need a more advanced and customizable ide... and i really dislike that embedded previewer
[09:23] <Qayos> Although I usually just use some random text editor and write raw TeX...
[09:23] <foofish> MenZa: true. but it is incredibly efficient.
[09:24] <foofish> alfatau: i don't know any media player that can change audio speed with fixed pitch :(
[09:24] <foofish> alfatau: let me know if you find one...
[09:24] <mneptok> alfatau: maybe Kile? TeXworks?
[09:25] <alfatau> i'm installing kile... let's look...
[09:25] <foofish> alfatau: possibly vlc with a plugin called scaletempo .. but i've not tried it myself
[09:26] <alfatau> foofish: i'm trying that plugin too
[09:26] <mneptok> alfatau: you'll probably want teTeX alongside Kile to recreate your Windows workflow
[09:27] <MenZa> mneptok: tetex is deprecated!
[09:27] <MenZa> mneptok: texlive is the Next Big Thing(tm)
[09:27] <MenZa> well, current big thing, really.
[09:27] <mneptok> right you are if you say so
[09:27] <Qayos> if i have ubuntu server do i need to do...... do-release-upgrade -m server    ?
[09:27] <Qayos> what is the difference?
[09:27] <foofish> alfatau: before you go down the kile route, check this out: http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/img/auctex-screenshot-tool-bar.png
[09:28] <foofish> alfatau: erm, this one i mean: http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/img/preview-screenshot.png
[09:28] <foofish> alfatau: with the equations rendered in the editor. it's really sweet.
[09:30] <alfatau> uhm... but will i able to import my TeXnic projects into kile? Does it supports something like a project structure, chapter and section trees, etc.?
[09:31] <MenZa> alfatau: Judging by the documentation, it does support projects. I'm not sure if you can use your .prj files from TeXnicCenter, though.
[09:31] <alfatau> MenZa: ok thank you
[09:31] <icesmurf> howdy.
[09:31] <icesmurf> :-)
[09:32] <MenZa> alfatau: http://kile.sourceforge.net/images/screenshots/snap_latextags.png
[09:32] <MenZa> alfatau: The interface should look (at least somewhat) familiar if you use TeXnicCenter
[09:33] <icesmurf> anyone here familiar with the dell-laptop patches ubuntu maintains?
[09:33] <alfatau> MenZa: thanks i just looked at screenshots.
[09:34] <travis_> \join #test
[09:34] <alfatau> i've the last question: a compilable project (pdfLatex) without errors, warning and badboxes, could get errors or other problems compiling it with texlive distro? thanks for your attention
[09:35] <MenZa> alfatau: it shouldn't.
[09:35] <MenZa> alfatau: generally, I don't care about warnings unless they actually upset the typesetting.
[09:38] <alfatau> MenZa: ok, i hope :P thanks for your attention
[09:40] <guitar-maniac> heeey!
[09:41]  * howya !
[09:43] <catch_> I am just looking at switching from openoffice to abiword et al, but when I try and export an abiword doc as a pdf, there is a huge increase in file size... I don't see any options for controlling this... any ideas or is this the wrong place to ask?
[09:45] <kannan01> how to install kubuntu 9.04 amd 64 in virtualbox --- when i try to install it says kernal requires x86_64cpu but only i686 is found..!!
[09:45] <Qayos> anyone help me run a do-release-upgrade from 7.04?
[09:45] <howya> kannan01: #kubuntu
[09:45] <Qayos> i'm following this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Feisty
[09:46] <icesmurf> kannan: i dont think virtualbox supports x86_64 does it?
[09:46] <Qayos> but the directory it tells me to download into keeps having its name changed
[09:46] <Qayos> so i cant manually get the file
[09:47] <Billiard> kannan01, are u running a 64 bit OS?
[09:48] <rot> In nautilus, I can go into properties and change the icon of a folder to a custom one. Can the same be done from the commandline? I want to use it in a script
[09:48] <kannan01> Billiard : yes
[09:49] <quellhorst> how can I install ubuntu via usb stick? I burned an ISO to the usb stick, but its not set as bootable, how do I fix that?
[09:50] <Billiard> kannan01, you may need to enable virtualization in your bios
[09:51] <kannan01> Billiard : but i'm already running xp in my virtual machine..
[09:51] <jo_> Hey, I want to set up a ubuntu server in my mom's company behind a firewall. I'll have to use NAT to open some ports for me. I wish to use it as a webserver, ssh, sip etc.. Witch ports should I forward to me so I don't disturb the rest of the company.
[09:52] <EvilAIM> lol
[09:52] <EvilAIM> That sounds highly not legal
[09:52] <Smut> morgen
[09:53] <Smut> kann man den radeonhd treiber genauso installieren wie im wiki beschrieben wenn man eine agp grafikkarte hat?
[09:53] <noodledoodle> Hello
[09:53] <pshr_> any one any idea on how to configure evolution for gmail behind proxy :(
[09:53] <Smut> hi
[09:54] <Smut> argh, this isn't the german channel...
[09:54] <quellhorst> hi, i just got fiber installed with 50mbps and a $3k server having trouble installing ubuntu since i didn't get a cdrom :)
[09:54] <noodledoodle> Can i ask a question about dvd copying
[09:54] <raudy> jaunty is great!
[09:55] <EvilAIM> guys
[09:55] <EvilAIM> just ask questions
[09:55] <EvilAIM> I'll answer
[09:55] <alfatau> hello, i'm also trying for an ubuntu replacement for tortoise svn. can you advise me an equivalent app?
[09:55] <BlouBlou> !enter | EvilAIM
[09:55] <mralexandro> if i write sudo make -j3 depend && make -j3 will that be sudo for both commands or just one of them?
[09:55] <jo_> EvilAIM: wel.. I want to set up a ubuntu server in my mom's company behind a firewall. I'll have to use NAT to open some ports for me. I wish to use it as a webserver, ssh, sip etc.. Witch ports should I forward to me so I don't disturb the rest of the company. tx...
[09:56] <quellhorst> for running ubuntu inside osx / virtualbox which version should i use? desktop/server 8.x or 9.x?
[09:56] <noodledoodle> ive ripped a film(dvd) using dvdrip what can i use to burn it?  brasero seems to crash
[09:56] <EvilAIM> jo_, figure out what ports are already taken.  Most likely the company already has ports already setup for that.
[09:56] <leo> When I try to compile, i get this error  "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables". How to get rid of this?
[09:56] <EvilAIM> quellhorst: what ever version you want.  I suggest 9.04
[09:56] <cybersplice> quellhorst, whichever you like. They should all work fine.
[09:56] <Flannel> leo: install build-essential
[09:57] <pshr_> any one any idea on how to configure evolution for gmail behind proxy :(
[09:57] <jo_> EvilAIM: ok tx, I'll try
[09:57] <EvilAIM> leo: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:57] <leo> Flannel: I'll try that. Thanks
[09:57] <leo> EvilAIM: Thanks
[09:57] <threequarks> hi all.  is there a tool for creating one big mp3 from a playlist of mp3s.  i've tried amarok..
[09:57] <liminal> hello
[09:58] <pshr_> any one any idea on how to configure evolution for gmail behind proxy :(
[09:58] <liminal> im having trouble bluetooth and ubu tu
[09:58] <pshr_> any one any idea on how to configure evolution for gmail behind proxy
[09:58] <threequarks> i'd like to create my own "mixtapes" for commuting to work rather than skipping around my ipod library..
[09:58] <mneptok> threequarks: you'd have to transcode, and you'd lose quality in a significant way
[09:58] <grawity> pshr_: What type of proxy? (And there is no need to repeat your question that often.)
[09:58] <liminal> ubuntu wont connect to my bluetooth device
[09:58] <rot> threequarks: try mencoder -oac copy 1.mp3 2.mp3 3.mp3 4.mp3 -o out.mp3
[09:58] <EvilAIM> ummm, threequarks http://www.ubuntuhowtos.com/howtos/merge_mp3
[09:58] <BlouBlou> !bluetooth | liminal
[09:59] <pshr_> http
[09:59] <threequarks> thanks rot.  is there any gui player that does that?
[09:59] <rot> threequarks; no idea, sorry :[
[09:59] <EvilAIM> three: I just told you... http://www.ubuntuhowtos.com/howtos/merge_mp3
[10:00] <threequarks> no probs. i'll try mencoder so... pity amarok doesnt seem to do it.
[10:00] <grawity> threequarks: In Linux, GUI appss aren't as common as command-line tools - especially when the latter ones are easy enough.
[10:00] <EvilAIM> or just search: ubuntu+merge mp3 files
[10:00] <pshr_> grawity, HTTP
[10:00] <ShishKabab> Hi. How can I get the PID from bash for a command that's running with some argument? Say I need the PID of an 'ssh myServer'.
[10:00] <pshr_> ShishKabab, pidof ssh
[10:00] <threequarks> grawity: gui apps not as common? what about rhythmbox, banshee and amarok...
[10:00] <grawity> pshr_: That won't work for ShishKabab
[10:01] <grawity> threequarks: Yeah, and can any of them do everything mencoder does?
[10:01] <dksoba88> hola
[10:01] <pshr_> hmm well how about this.. pidof ssh | grep myserver
[10:01] <pshr_> nah! bad bad bad
[10:01] <pshr_> my bad
[10:01] <ShishKabab> pshr_: What if I have another session open like 'ssh anotherOne'?
[10:01] <quellhorst> do you guys know if a ubuntu will install fine from a USB drive?
[10:01] <grawity> ShishKabab: ps -e -o pid,cmd | grep 'ssh myserver' | awk '{ printf $1 }'
[10:01] <threequarks> grawity: well amarok is extendible .. could easily trigger mencoder stuff via some amarok scripting.
[10:01] <grawity> quellhorst: Yes.
[10:02] <icesmurf> threequarks; as the oss mantra goes.. "patches welcome"
[10:02] <grawity> threequarks: But the core of Amarok is still a media player.
[10:02] <icesmurf> ;)
[10:02] <Tomy> hi, anyone has maybe the xorg.conf for the joybook r22e?
[10:03] <iuri> hi there, i am having troubles to use syscalls on my environment. How do i declare a syscall in a C program i wrote to call a syscall i created. I already compiled and installed the kernel image with the new syscall
[10:03] <ShishKabab> grawity: Almost, it also echos the PID of grep....
[10:03] <iuri> i believe the problem is in this line _syscall(long,iuri,int,i)
[10:03] <grawity> ShishKabab: Well, insert a grep -v grep somewhere
[10:03] <iuri> does anyone know how to declare syscalls
[10:03] <void_pointer> iuri, try #c
[10:03] <grawity> pshr_: If the proxy supports HTTP CONNECT, you can just set it somewhere in Evolution
[10:03] <system404> hey guys i plugged in a usb flash drive into my pc and ubuntu saying unable to mount volume why is this
[10:04] <esun``> QUIT
[10:04] <ShishKabab> grawity: Thanks! Works like a charm.
[10:04] <icesmurf> or just use pgrep
[10:05] <grawity> icesmurf: Does pgrep grep for process arguments?
[10:05] <noodledoodle> is it not possible to burn rental films using Brasero. it keeps crashing when i add the second vob.file.   Are they encrypted somehow
[10:05] <MarkGil> Hi can anyone recommend a php based imap client that plays well with mobile browsers?  Specifically the one in the Sony PSP?  I tried a few of the more popular and they don't play too well/
[10:05] <icesmurf> with -f use
[10:05] <icesmurf> when you use -f yeah
[10:06] <icesmurf> pgrep -f  'whatever;
[10:06] <grawity> MarkGil: SquirrelMail seemed to work fine for me.
[10:06] <system404> hey guys i plugged in a usb flash drive into my pc and ubuntu saying unable to mount volume why is this
[10:06] <icesmurf> mm network manager is so broken in karmic :(
[10:06] <icesmurf> i think they've regressed the dell-laptop kernel module or something :\
[10:07] <quellhorst> how do i make a usb stick bootable?
[10:07] <icesmurf> system: possibly an invalid partition table, or it's not formatted? does it show up ok in windows?
[10:08] <icesmurf> mores the point, are you use it's a "usb storage" device, and not an MFT device.
[10:08] <bullgard4> What is the function of the loadable kernel driver 'videodev'? The information output of 'modinfo': "v4l1-compat" does mean what?
[10:08] <system404> it shows up in windows if i recall yes but ive totally wiped out windows now though
[10:08] <icesmurf> quell: google is your friend, "google, usb, syslinux"
[10:08] <threequarks> heh heh...  i solved my mixtape problem.
[10:08] <noodledoodle> lucky you
[10:08] <system404> how can i format it in a format that windows will see as i want to put files on it that will be used in windows
[10:08] <threequarks> all hail the wonders of "cat"...
[10:09] <threequarks> cat 1.mp3 2.mp3 > newbig.mp3
[10:09] <leo> EvilAIM: Tu do apt-get install build-essential, I need to install proxychains. To install proxychains, I need build-essential. I am confused.
[10:09] <threequarks> simple as that.  god i love linux.
[10:09] <icesmurf> system: first, you need to make sure that you can see the device.
[10:09] <leo> Flannel: Tu do apt-get install build-essential, I need to install proxychains. To install proxychains, I need build-essential. I am confused.
[10:09] <system404> i can see it in places its just unmountable
[10:09] <icesmurf> what places do you see it?
[10:10] <system404> if i go to places its there if i click on computer its in there
[10:10] <system404> but is unmountable
[10:10] <grawity> system404: Go to the Terminal, try the 'mount' command
[10:10] <icesmurf> k, do you have gparted installed?
[10:10] <system404> i think i have gparted
[10:11] <quellhorst> icesmurf: googling in progress :)
[10:11] <icesmurf> system: sudo gparted and see if it see's the sd[x] device of the usb storage you've connected
[10:12] <Flannel> leo: You shouldn't need proxy-chains for build-essential, unless you mean that you can't connect to the internet?  Do you still have your Ubuntu CD?
[10:12] <leo> Flannel: I have to use proxychains for resolving the names
[10:12] <Flannel> leo: resolving what names?
[10:12] <leo> Flannel: like archive.ubuntu.com
[10:12] <system404> icesmurf: no gparted dont see it just shows my hdd partitions
[10:13] <leo> Flannel: to IP
[10:13] <icesmurf> system: you comfortable with the command line?
[10:13] <leo> Flannel: I am behind a proxy server
[10:13] <Flannel> leo: Well, you could always look it up and change your sources.list temporarily.  But build-essential is included on the CD, so you can install it from there.
[10:13] <icesmurf> have a look see in /var/log/messages and /var/log/dmesg
[10:13] <icesmurf> see if it's actually detecting the thing.
[10:14] <icesmurf> know what model/make it is?
[10:14] <system404> icesmurf: wouldnt say comfortable but ill trust ur input lol
[10:14] <leo> Flannel: I'' try that
[10:14] <icesmurf> actually
[10:14] <icesmurf> do a lsusb
[10:14] <icesmurf> and paste the output to pastebin.com
[10:14] <icesmurf> and gimmie the link you get from pastebin
[10:15] <aaron11> Helo Im having some problems with my flash. When I go to Linux.com, the ads are having something flickering next to each flash object
[10:15] <system404> icesmurf: http://pastebin.com/m5c83654d
[10:15] <dux70> #ubuntu-it
[10:16] <arturo> f
[10:16] <icesmurf> can you do the same (as root this time) with "sudo fdisk -l"
[10:17] <icesmurf> i'm really -really- starting to hate network-manager.
[10:17] <EvilAIM> why?
[10:17] <system404> icesmurf: http://pastebin.com/m61ba2d0c
[10:17] <icesmurf> because every major release that comes along, it breaks out the ass.
[10:17] <icesmurf> :D
[10:18] <icesmurf> it's its interface with wireless seems a bit borked for karmic.
[10:18] <icesmurf> iv'e had to revert to using wicd.
[10:18] <ruben_> please help
[10:18] <rot> In nautilus, I can go into properties and change the icon of a folder to a custom one. Can the same be done from the commandline or do I need to do it through DBus? I want to use it in a script
[10:19] <icesmurf> system: urh.. does the device work ok in windows?
[10:19] <grawity> rot: See ~/.nautilus/metadata/
[10:19] <Guest45625> spanish help please
[10:19] <icesmurf> looks like it's a secured device, you probably need specific drivers for it :\
[10:19] <Flannel> Guest45625: /join #ubuntu-es
[10:19] <aaron11> Helo Im having some problems with my flash. When I go to Linux.com, the ads are having something flickering next to each flash object
[10:20] <pw-toxic> hi, i have a critical error with ubuntu.. all my windows crash after some minutes i have bootet... even the update manager crashes
[10:20] <pw-toxic> all the icons on my desktop disappear
[10:20] <pw-toxic> when i reboot, he has to check the HDD
[10:20] <system404> it did last time it was plugged into windows was a while ago i dont have windows on this machine no more
[10:20] <icesmurf> system: i'd reformat it in a windows machine.
[10:21] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: wich error sends ubuntu?
[10:21] <system404> icesmurf i shouldnt need drivers its just a usb stick
[10:21] <icesmurf> either that, or pony up the $15 for a 1G pendrive :-)
[10:21] <icesmurf> system: looks like it's a hosed usb stick.
[10:21] <system404> thats wat this is icesmurf
[10:21] <icesmurf> oh is that a 1gig drive?
[10:21] <system404> could i try format it in windows
[10:21] <system404> yeah 1 gig
[10:21] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, no error.. it just crashes and i cant open any more windows and my existing windows crash too
[10:21] <icesmurf> *rechecks your pastebin*
[10:22] <system404> theres a 2 gig sd card in my machine that works fine
[10:22] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, the terminal i previouly opened still works  and the xchat window too, but all icons disappeared and i cant open my home folder
[10:22] <icesmurf> oh that's what the sdf drives are heh
[10:22] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: when you open update manager or when you check updates?
[10:22] <icesmurf> as root:
[10:22] <icesmurf> mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt
[10:22] <icesmurf> cd /mnt
[10:22] <icesmurf> ls
[10:22] <FloodBot3> icesmurf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:22] <icesmurf> and see if it works
[10:22] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, no this also happens without the update manager
[10:22] <leo> Flannel: That helped. Thanks a lot
[10:23] <BI16> hey
[10:23] <Guest45625> when i restart my computer only runs in security mode and say me that i have a no kernel intel modesetting
[10:23] <Guest45625> what can i do
[10:23] <Guest45625> ¿?
[10:23] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: well, try to use in a terminal: sudo apt-get update
[10:23] <aaron11> Guest45625: why not boot from live cd then install a kernel
[10:23] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, my system is up to date
[10:24] <aaron11> Guest45625: sorry reinstall
[10:24] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: this will check updates in a terminal, and we will see if it sends error or not
[10:24] <Bilge> Can SSH be decoupled from SFTP?
[10:24] <aaron11> Helo Im having some problems with my flash. When I go to Linux.com, the ads are having something flickering next to each flash object
[10:24] <grawity> Bilge: Huh?
[10:24] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, how do i see that there are updates?
[10:24] <Guest45625> i dont have the live cd in this moment
[10:24] <shoss> where can i get help with karmic?
[10:24] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, Reading package lists... Done
[10:24] <pw-toxic> last line
[10:24] <Bilge> AFAIK they're both installed together in the OpenSSH package
[10:24] <Flannel> shoss: #ubuntu+1
[10:24] <icesmurf> bilge: sftp is just a command invoked over an ssh channel.
[10:24] <BI16> guys how can i update my firefox from 3.0.14 to 3.5 (latest) ? ..my "check for update" is greyed out ? ...anyone?
[10:24] <aaron11> Guest45625: then you're screwed
[10:25] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, now my update manager starks and there is only one update... libicu38
[10:25] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: ok, it's update-manager's error
[10:25] <^lazzarella^> ciao
[10:25] <aaron11> Guest45625: go to windows then install iso then burn again and reinstall
[10:25] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, lets see what happens if i try to update once more.. my windows are still working
[10:25] <franck> my machine is sluggish, it takes time for an event to show in syslog
[10:25] <franck> it is real strange
[10:25] <grawity> Bilge: /etc/ssh/sshd_config, look for 'Subsystem'
[10:25] <rot> grawity, that folder is really messy. No command for setting icon?
[10:25] <icesmurf> bilge: you can restrict sftp .. what graw just said.
[10:25] <icesmurf> :D
[10:25] <icesmurf> got half way through typing it.
[10:26] <Bilge> But they are part of the same package, right?
[10:26] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, the update worked.. so there is nothing to update.. i cant tell you when or why my windows crash, but it occurs very often and i cant remember having ubuntu running longer than 30 minuts without my windows crashing
[10:26] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: did you update or install any programm this days? when did it starts failing?
[10:26] <icesmurf> bilge: yes.
[10:26] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, well i have installed a lot of programs from the ubuntu utility page
[10:26] <aaron11> Guest45625: change your nickname
[10:26] <icesmurf> sort of rolling your own package, or disabling sftp post install. you cannot by default only install the ssh servfer.
[10:26] <icesmurf> server.
[10:26] <liminal> ive connected to my bluetooth device
[10:26] <icesmurf> s/sort/short/
[10:26] <liminal> how do i see where in /dev/ its is connected
[10:26] <Bilge> I don't really want to restrict it, it's a very handy feature, I was just trying to understand where it comes from clearly
[10:27] <grawity> Bilge: Why would you want to remove sftp anyway?
[10:27] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, http://www.getdeb.net/browse.php
[10:27] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: well, did you installed non-supported or beta updates?
[10:27] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, no only things on this page
[10:28] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: surelly an update crashes when you were updating from getdeb...
[10:28] <icesmurf> bilge: ahh it's just an ssh extension that uses an ssh channel, it's just a formalised protocol that uses ssh as a transport.
[10:28] <mnaines> Does Linux need defragmentation software?
[10:29] <icesmurf> man sftp-server
[10:29] <liminal> what is the path bluetooth devices are connected via in ubuntu ?
[10:29] <Nozy> nop
[10:29] <solofight> help | i have bsnl evdo card, zte modem, not getting detected in my xubuntu ver 9
[10:29] <filosofico> Hi! Best replacement for "Visio" in ubuntu? "Dia"?
[10:29] <solofight> i really need a way to make this work soon
[10:29] <Nozy> mnaines: nop
[10:29] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: go to synaptic
[10:29] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: and select repair packets
[10:29] <solofight> SOS
[10:30] <Nozy> mnaines: linux file system don't break file up
[10:30] <Chousuke> Nozy: that's quite filesystem-dependent :P
[10:30] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, hm i cant see a "repar packets" button.. there is only  reload, mark all upgrades .. and a search bar
[10:30] <pw-toxic> and some disabled icons
[10:30] <Nozy> ext 2 and ext 3
[10:30] <Nozy> fat ntfs yes
[10:30] <Nozy> xfs no
[10:31] <mnaines> foofish: I found out what the problem was with the drives...When I was running Vista, Vista showed a bunch of fragmented files but would not touch them...
[10:31] <Nozy> ext4 sure is not
[10:31] <romba> err
[10:31] <grawity> Chousuke: And implementation-dependent too.
[10:31] <Chousuke> mnaines: Defragmentation always happens, no matter what the filesystem, but ext3 and ext4 are smart enough to minimise the effect.
[10:31]  * mnaines runs ext3 and ext4
[10:31] <icesmurf> bilge: incidentally, if you want to find out what package a particular file belongs to "dpkg-query -S <file>" will tell you :-)
[10:31] <romba> this is soooo
[10:31] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: have you got another SO in your computer?
[10:31] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, Windows87
[10:31] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, on an intel 80GB SSD
[10:31] <romba> windows 3.1
[10:32] <romba> here
[10:32] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: and pc crashes with it?
[10:32] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, windows7 works very well. i have worked the last 4 days with it because i cant work with ubuntu anymore
[10:32] <abongile1> Damn, I just finished applying updates to ubuntu netboom remix install, I was using classic desktop, now my task bar and status bar are gone, so now I can interact with my system. How do I get out of this problem?
[10:32] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, now i figured it out.. the problem only occurs when i try to open my home folder
[10:32] <mnaines> Chousuke: What have you heard about Seagate's hard drives?
[10:32] <grawity> abongile1: Can you open a terminal and try running "gnome-panel" in it?
[10:33] <Chousuke> mnaines: usually it helps to not fill up your hard drive entirely.
[10:33] <Chousuke> mnaines: nothing much
[10:33] <mralexandro> what would you use to burn an image in ubuntu
[10:33] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: maybe you should create another user, give it admin power, remove old user and try with it
[10:33] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, i use gnome-do  if i want to open my home folder by gnome-do OR by places->home folder (gnome top panel) my icons disappear andi cant open any more windows with directorys
[10:33] <grawity> mralexandro: Brasero (if you like GUI), or cdrecord (command-line).
[10:33] <mnaines> Chousuke: I was running Windows Vista doing a lot of file transfers from my photography and stuff
[10:33] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, uhh thats hard.. i have a lot of configuration here!
[10:33] <pshr_> any mail / gmail notifier that works behind the http squid proxy having authentication methods ?
[10:33] <mralexandro> grawity, thanks. is there a software like daemon tools for making a false cd rom drive as well?
[10:34] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, no i tried to open my home folder again, and it actually worked, but all icons on the desktop are still missing
[10:34] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: copy all hidden folders/archives
[10:34] <icesmurf> mralex; er.. the loopback device ?
[10:34] <pshr_> grawity, any mail / gmail notifier that works behind the http squid proxy having authentication methods ?
[10:34] <abongile1> grawity: No I can't, don't know short-cuts, using a wireless USB keyboard so ctrl+alt+f1-6 doesn't get a response.
[10:34] <grawity> mralexandro: Nope. The Linux kernel already supports it.
[10:34] <grawity> abongile1: Alt-F2?
[10:34] <mralexandro> grawity, how excaclty?
[10:35] <icesmurf> mralex; say you have an .iso image you want to mount
[10:35] <abongile1> grawity: non-work
[10:35] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, do you know which program is used to show files and folders in ubuntu?
[10:35] <grawity> mralexandro: Open a terminal, use 'sudo mount your-disk-image.iso /mnt -o loop'
[10:35] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: it's very curious, I never heard that
[10:35] <icesmurf> mralex: mount -o loop youriso.iso /path/to/where/you/want/it
[10:35] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: nautilus
[10:35] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, yes thats my problem... i cant find anythin in google
[10:35] <liminal> how do i find devices connected to the kernak?
[10:35] <mnaines> Chousuke: Apparently the drives have been saying that out of the total capacity, there is 2.6GB used but Linux cannot see what's in that 2.6GB of space
[10:35] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, do you know how i could get some debug information of nautilus?
[10:35] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, it looks like nautilus is the only problem
[10:35] <mralexandro> grawity, icesmurf, thanks!
[10:36] <icesmurf> mnaines: it's used by inodes, and other filesystem bits and pieces.
[10:36] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: help -> repport problem
[10:36] <pshr_> any mail / gmail notifier that works behind the http squid proxy having authentication methods ?
[10:36] <mnaines> icesmurf: Yeah, but another drive says 7.4GB are in use
[10:36] <icesmurf> you can tune it, essentially it's reserves some storage space for root/and backup inodes.
[10:36] <icesmurf> it's not for the faint of heart tho :-)
[10:36] <abongile1> grawity: I can right click on the desktop though and interact with the windows, accept I can move them since, the titles bard on a hidden part of the screen, where I assume my task bar to be.
[10:37] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, ok ;( but sadly i cant write that much, because the behaviour is very magically and i cant reproduce it clearly.. it just occurs from time to time, but extremly breaking my workflow ;(
[10:37] <KurtKraut> pshr_, not exactly. You have to set HTTPS traffic to be forwarded withou passing thru squid
[10:37] <icesmurf> see "man tune2fs"
[10:37] <Chousuke> mnaines: are the drives of the same size? :/
[10:37] <Chousuke> mnaines: the FS overhead depends on the size of the filesystem.
[10:37] <icesmurf> chous: it also depends on how the FS  has been initalised, different filesystems use different methods, most are tunable.
[10:38] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: then see datials, it will apperas all debug info
[10:38] <mnaines> icesmurf: But why would it store that stuff on the external backup drives...One drive is 150GB and is only reading 132GB available on an ext4 fs and the other is a 500GB drive reading 458GB available on ext4
[10:38] <icesmurf> if it's ext2/3/4 you should be able to tune it with tune2fs
[10:38] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, what is datials?
[10:38] <grawity> pw-toxic: I think he meant 'details'
[10:38] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: in repport an error
[10:38] <Chousuke> mnaines: that's normal
[10:39] <icesmurf> mn: how is it supposed to know it's an external "backup" device? it's calculated automatically based on how the filesystem is going to be layed out on the physical media.
[10:39] <icesmurf> you -can- reduce how much overhead it uses, by using tune2fs.
[10:39] <pawan> hi
[10:39] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, i cant find a help ;(
[10:39] <mnaines> Chousuke: So that extra space is the partition table for those drives?
[10:39] <pawan> how to install audacious
[10:39] <pawan> !audacious
[10:39] <icesmurf> mnaies; no its the filesystem sitting on top of the partitions.
[10:40] <MrZehl> Hi there, I trashed my network stettings. :(
[10:40] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: at the right of nautilus, at the top of window
[10:40] <mnaines> icesmurf: What do you mean, exactly?
[10:40] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, do you mean in the top gnome panel under system?
[10:40] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, ah ok.. misunderstood :D
[10:40] <MrZehl> I was busy with connecting my BeBook with OepenInkpot  by ssh
[10:40] <Chousuke> mnaines: making a filesystem on a drive is not free. the filesystem takes space too :)
[10:41] <meatbun> can ubuntu implement IPsec VPN using ESP and 3DES AND run in tunnel mode (to protect IP header)?
[10:41] <mnaines> Chousuke: But what exactly does it use that space for?
[10:41] <icesmurf> mn: so, when you create a "partition" what your doing is your telling the operating system in what places on the physical media it can write the filesystem to.
[10:41] <Chousuke> mnaines: but in addition to that, usually the FS reserves some "emergency space" in case the filesystem ever fills up
[10:41] <icesmurf> cho: and for redundancy.
[10:41] <Chousuke> mnaines: that's what you can tune.
[10:41] <MrZehl> So I made a networkconnection in System/Preferences/Network Connections
[10:42] <icesmurf> and how many backup blocks, what sizes, how many inodes to actually have on the filesystem.
[10:42] <icesmurf> for example, if your going to only have a few very large files, you need less inodes.
[10:42] <MrZehl> But then I couldn't connect to internet anymore. Deleting the connection I made didn't solve it.
[10:42] <Chousuke> tune2fs -m 0.5 /dev/yourext3or4partition
[10:42] <icesmurf> if your going to have thousands and thousands of little files, you'll need more inodes, which will use up more "filesystem" space that you can't actually use.
[10:42] <Chousuke> ... I wonder if it supports floats :P
[10:42] <MrZehl> Anybody knows  how to do that?
[10:43] <icesmurf> ch: i've been maintaining for the last five years or so that the default mke2fs "emergency" space is to big.
[10:43] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: well, now if you wanna, you can report it to launchpad
[10:43] <Chousuke> mnaines: and note that some of the space loss could also be due to manufacturers using SI prefixes and Linux using binary prefixes :/
[10:44] <Fauchi95> Hello! If I set a cronjob withe the user root on @reboot, it is done before the logincreen appears?
[10:44] <MrZehl> Nothing changed in /etc/network/
[10:44] <Fauchi95> *with
[10:44] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, i'll try to get some more information.. strangly at the moment it works .. my icons reappeared and nautilus doesnt crash anymore
[10:44] <Chousuke> ie. it's not lost space. it just doesn't exist in the first place :)
[10:44] <BlouBlou> pw-toxic: ok :)
[10:44] <pw-toxic> BlouBlou, ah now it does ;) ok ;))
[10:44] <abongile1> grawity: What I can do though is reboot and go into recovery mode, I drop into a terminal then. Could that help?
[10:45] <mnaines> Chousuke: So this level of overhead is normal?
[10:45] <MrZehl> I meant /etc/network/interfaces
[10:45] <icesmurf> by default yes.
[10:45] <Chousuke> mnaines: for example, 500GB is 465 GiB (what Linux calls GB)
[10:45] <WhiteCrow1> how can i send file in terminal to other pc in my network?
[10:46] <mnaines> Chousuke: It says that, but then it also says out of that 465GB, 7.4GB are used
[10:46] <icesmurf> chous: gluck with explaining that one :D
[10:46] <pw-toxic> test
[10:46] <mnaines> Chousuke: Then Linux can only see the 458GB of free space
[10:46] <Chousuke> mnaines: yeah, that's probably the "reserve" :/
[10:47] <icesmurf> almost certainly the reserve.
[10:47] <Bilge> icesmurf: so does dpkg -S, which is shorter ;p
[10:47] <Chousuke> though if it were 5%, it'd be more.
[10:47] <Chousuke> so it could be just the filesystem *necessary* data structures
[10:47] <mnaines> So 7.4 is what percent of 465?
[10:48] <icesmurf> chos: probably a combination, i think that 'reserve' is calculated dynamically on filesystem creation now isnt it?
[10:48] <Chousuke> icesmurf: it used to be a set percentage
[10:48] <Chousuke> but that's probably been changed.
[10:49] <icesmurf> hmm i could be thinking solaris.
[10:49] <DigitalKiwi> tune2fs
[10:49] <Chousuke> it seems you have 1.5% overhead
[10:49] <Chousuke> that could very well be just the filesystem, and not the space reserve :/
[10:50] <icesmurf> the larger your filesystem, the more 'overhead' it has, so it'll scale up as you go higher in the GB's ..
[10:50] <icesmurf> i'd suggest you have a good read of the tune2fs manpage, and fiddle with it.
[10:51] <braadspeet> hallo I wish to connect to the dutch version, please advise
[10:51] <Whitt> Am I able to get help here with Ubuntu 9.10 audio?
[10:52] <Chousuke> mnaines: you can try doing sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/the500GBpartition and see if that frees up space.
[10:52] <Chousuke> mnaines: if it doesn't then there's nothing you can do about it :P
[10:52] <KurtKraut> Whitt, I suggest you to try http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=334
[10:52] <Whitt> thanks
[10:52] <icesmurf> chous: yeah you can, you can reduce the inode count to something more reasonable.
[10:52] <mnaines> Chousuke: I tried but it gives me an error saying "superblock not found"
[10:52] <Chousuke> mnaines: you didn't pick the right device file
[10:52] <liminal> i cant pair to my bluetooth device, i need to manual set the pin length to longer than 4 digits
[10:52] <BlouBlou> Whitt: /join #ubuntu+1 for next ubuntu releases
[10:52] <Chousuke> mnaines: if you run "mount" it'll show you what you need.
[10:53] <liminal> does anyone know where the pin for blkuetooth is configured
[10:54] <Smut> rks
[10:54] <DigitalKiwi> <3 reiserfs
[10:55] <icesmurf> always thought reiser has similar issues for lots of files. has a fairly high overhead as well.
[10:56] <wizzo50> How do you setup a HP Photosmart C4640 to scan on Ubuntu?
[10:56] <braadspeet> Can anyone help me, when upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 I get an authetication error, please advise
[10:56] <wizzo50> Any help on this?
[10:56] <iwobbles> any sugestion which libraries to load for running Visual Basic macros inside OpenOffie spreadsheets ?
[10:58] <alfatau> hello, i'm trying to switch from my windows workbench to ubuntu. i need a replacement for miktex and texniccenter. i tried texlive and kile, but texlive seems to be really outdated. do you know if it's possible to have an updated version of latex packages, or if there's another latex distro wich serves apt sources for ubuntu? thank you
[10:58] <wizzo50> Any help on this? How do you setup a HP Photosmart C4640 to scan on Ubuntu?
[10:58] <liminal> how do i use grep to search a syslog?
[10:58] <maschine> liminal: do you have a file called etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf there it should be
[10:59] <liminal> no i dont have that file
[10:59] <grawity> liminal: sudo grep -i "something" /var/log/syslog
[10:59] <wizzo50> Any help on this? How do you setup a HP Photosmart C4640 to scan on Ubuntu?
[10:59] <KurtKraut> alfatau, have you tried gimmie or lyx?
[11:00] <liminal> audio.conf  input.conf	main.conf  network.conf  pin  rfcomm.conf
[11:00] <liminal> is all i have
[11:00] <mnaines> Chousuke: It won't let me do the mount option
[11:00] <Chousuke> mnaines: huh?
[11:00] <mnaines> Chousuke: I have no idea how to use tune2fs
[11:01] <Chousuke> mnaines: just running "mount" will list your mounted filesystems and show you the /dev/foo file that matches them
[11:01] <wizzo50> Any help on this? How do you setup a HP Photosmart C4640 to scan on Ubuntu?
[11:01] <mnaines> Chousuke: Then what?
[11:01] <Chousuke> mnaines: so look at the mount output and then use the /dev/foo you need as parameter to tune2fs like I showed
[11:01] <acctoujours> hello!, i have a problem, i need to replace the number five with a variable in     ed $LOG_FILE <<< $'1,5d\nw'
[11:02] <alfatau> KurtKraut: the problem isn't the ide, the problem is the outdated texlive distro. it's the 2007 version and includes a 2005 version of memoir class. I need a really updated texlive (or other distro for linux) version.
[11:02] <acctoujours> something like that    ed $LOG_FILE <<< $'1,$VARd\nw'
[11:02] <acctoujours> how can i do it? :S
[11:03] <KurtKraut> alfatau, to have a truly up to date software, you'll have to download the source code and compile it.
[11:03] <wizzo50> Any help on this? How do you setup a HP Photosmart C4640 to scan on Ubuntu?
[11:03] <acctoujours> i believe that ed command doesn't allow use " instead of '
[11:03] <GiiiZmo> hi all/ salut all
[11:04] <mnaines> Chousuke: http://pastebin.com/m24e935d3 is the output from mount...I have no idea which one to use
[11:04] <KurtKraut> wizzo50, I own another model of HP Photosmart series and I had just to plug it to my computer (while the printer is on) and Ubuntu just recognized that.
[11:04] <GiiiZmo> anywon now why flash applications cant work correctly on my unbutu 9.04
[11:04] <nic1> how can i install opera browser in ubuntu?
[11:04] <grawity> nic1: http://deb.opera.com/
[11:04] <wizzo50> KurtKraut: The printer part works but not my scanner
[11:05] <Chousuke> mnaines: is it the "Secondary" disk that is 500GB?
[11:05] <KurtKraut> wizzo50, what software you're using to scan?
[11:05] <Chousuke> mnaines: anyway, one of the /dev/sd* at the end
[11:05] <mnaines> Chousuke: I figured it out...I wasn't putting the number at the end
[11:05] <Chousuke> mnaines: the ext4 ones
[11:05] <nic1> opera and opera-beta are there, which one do i need to download?
[11:05] <mnaines> Chousuke: I set the reserve blocks for 25
[11:05] <wizzo50> KurtKraut: The software that came with it
[11:06] <mnaines> Chousuke: By the way, the Backup is the 500GB one
[11:06] <Chousuke> mnaines: hm? you mean -m 25?
[11:06] <Chousuke> because -m takes a percentage...
[11:06] <^mNotIntelligent> hi all !
[11:06] <mnaines> Chousuke: I mean -r 25
[11:06] <Chousuke> ah
[11:06] <KurtKraut> wizzo50, it won't work because this software is for Windows only, not to Linux.
[11:06] <Chousuke> 25 blocks is probably not enough :P
[11:06] <Chousuke> it's about 100kB :D
[11:06] <KurtKraut> wizzo50, I use Gimp to scan.
[11:07] <pratik_narain> how to change kdm to gdm in 9.04
[11:07] <mnaines> Chousuke: I doubt I'll ever need the reserves anyway...The drives are insanely huge compared to the total amount of space I need
[11:07] <Chousuke> mnaines: might be.
[11:08] <mnaines> Chousuke: Ubuntu is using only 8GB currently and I have another 3GB of files on my 16GB USB flash drive
[11:08] <acctoujours> another question, does anybody know a good irc channel about Java Programming?
[11:08] <Chousuke> acctoujours: I would try ##java
[11:09] <KurtKraut> acctoujours, try searching thru searchirc.com
[11:09] <Chousuke> but that's just a guess.
[11:09] <mnaines> Chousuke: A single 150GB drive is easily way more than enough for my needs
[11:10] <Chousuke> mnaines: does it show the space as free now though?
[11:10] <mnaines> Chousuke: Nope
[11:10] <Chousuke> mnaines: hm :/
[11:10] <Chousuke> mnaines: I guess it's the filesystem overhead then
[11:10] <Chousuke> mnaines: for a 500GB drive I guess it's not too bad.
[11:11] <q0_0p> anyone know how to i block outbound IP's?
[11:11] <pratik_narain> how to change kdm to gdm in 9.04
[11:11] <nysosym> hi there, i have a problem with xkb
[11:11] <nysosym> http://www.pastebin.org/42293
[11:11] <Chousuke> pratik_narain: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" should do it
[11:11] <nysosym> any idea how to solve this
[11:12] <wizzo50> KurtKraut: How do you use The Gimp to scan?
[11:12] <SpArKy> jesus christ use google
[11:13] <nic1> hey after getting a package with apt-get source <package-name> how do i need to build the corresponding package?
[11:13] <pratik_narain> Chousuke: i think it worked thnx
[11:13] <joaopinto> !compile | nic1
[11:14] <KurtKraut> wizzo50, you'll find an 'Xsane' option inside the 'File' menu
[11:14] <acctoujours> Chousuke, KurtKraut: thanks for the info!
[11:15] <SpArKy> how are people able to make it into an irc chat, and they cant do a simple google search
[11:15] <wizzo50> KurtKraut: Yes, I have clicked on that, then where? How you use it?
[11:16] <nysosym> no idea for my problem_
[11:17] <KurtKraut> wizzo50, so more windows have appeared and one of them with a big logo of Xsane, right?
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> SpArKy:  many times the irc clients are set to auto join :)
[11:17] <denmark> y0
[11:17] <chu_> Hey all.
[11:17] <denmark> :))
[11:17] <Gingle> where is the deb for xorg 1.7 server?
[11:17] <denmark> hiii
[11:17] <wizzo50> KurtKraut: Yes
[11:17] <Guest75341> Hello
[11:18] <Gingle> hello denmark
[11:18] <joaopinto> Gingle, there is no deb, if you need it build from source, or try to find a ppa
[11:18] <wizzo50> Xsane .0996 USB Camera it says at the top
[11:18] <KurtKraut> wizzo50, so try figuring out by clicking in buttons. I'm using Ubuntu in portuguese here. I don't know the labels of the buttons you're seeing there. But it should be quit intuitive, something like 'Capture' or 'Digitalize'.
[11:18] <denmark> hello
[11:18] <Gingle> joaopinto: can't seem to understand how to trigger GLX_USE_TLS and that symbol in, dri barks
[11:18] <KurtKraut> joaopinto, Lamego?
[11:18] <abongile1> Hi intsalled Ubuntu Netbook Remix and applied updates whilst I was using the classic desktop, now the status/task bar et al are gone and I can't switch back to the UNR desktop. How can fix this problem. Have googled looked at /etc/X11/xorg.conf no wacom entries, which were cited a being the possible cause, please help.
[11:19] <joaopinto> KurtKraut, yes :P
[11:19] <KurtKraut> joaopinto, hello there :D
[11:19] <joaopinto> hi :)
[11:19] <q0_0p> anyone here can help me block outgoing IP's?
[11:19] <joaopinto> !iptables
[11:19] <mnaines> Chousuke: It looks like there's a 1.6% overhead for ext4
[11:20] <q0_0p> firestarter wont let me block outgoing IP's
[11:20] <grawity> q0_0p: What do you mean by "outgoing IPs" anyway?
[11:20] <q0_0p> sudo iptables -I OUTPUT -d 10.0.0.199 -j DROP
[11:20] <q0_0p> clients that are connected the DHCP server
[11:20] <q0_0p> grawity, clients that are connected the DHCP server
[11:21] <mnaines> q0_0p: In Firestarter, right-click in the area that says "Block Connections to Host"
[11:21] <Ubuntu-Noob> can anyone help me figure out how to load nvidia drivers 185, rather than the ones from the package manager ???
[11:22] <q0_0p> mnaines, i dont see it >_<
[11:22] <mnaines> q0_0p: Under the Policies tab
[11:22] <q0_0p> mnaines, im using white list traffic
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu-Noob:  you could get the ones from the nvidia homepage.. or  theres some script that might help automate it.. but i forget its name.
[11:23] <q0_0p> mnaines, i can only do that if im using blacklist traffic?
[11:23] <q0_0p> mnaines, or is it that both are in effect? whitelist and blacklist traffic?
[11:23] <Ubuntu-Noob> I have goten the ones from nvidia page, but im going insane with issues trying to load them
[11:23] <mnaines> q0_0p: If you set it for "Allow all traffic by default" you will see it, but if you set it for "block all traffic by default" you won't
[11:23] <q0_0p> mnaines, blacklist trafffic blocks everything by default
[11:24] <q0_0p> mnaines, but then i have to block everything that i dont need
[11:24] <q0_0p> mnaines, as oppose to adding things i need
[11:24] <mnaines> q0_0p: If you set it for blacklist, it will block everything unless you tell it to allow the traffic
[11:24] <icesmurf> noob: you have to build them from the command line.
[11:24] <q0_0p> mnaines, i want to blacklist everything; and block that outgoing ip
[11:25] <mnaines> q0_0p: If you blacklist everything, it blocks that outgoing IP unless you specifically tell it otherwise
[11:25] <q0_0p> mnaines, iptables -I OUTGOING -d 10.0.0.199 -j DROP puts it at the top of the rule lists
[11:25] <mnaines> q0_0p: Set firestarter for "block all traffic by default" in the policy window
[11:26] <q0_0p> mnaines, i already have it set up to block all
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu-Noob:  chmod +x whatver.run  exit to the console (alt-ctrl-f1) , stop gdm with 'sudo service gdm stop'  cd to where the run file is at..  'sudo ./whatever.run'  is the basics of it
[11:26] <mnaines> q0_0p: Then only specify the traffic you want to be allowed to pass through the firewall
[11:26] <recrue76> firefox aide?
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu-Noob:  of course theres no guarentee they will work.
[11:26] <q0_0p> mnaines, i want to block a certain IP at a certain time
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> !info envyng
[11:27] <mnaines> q0_0p: Then why do you need to block an IP address if it is already blocked?
[11:27] <q0_0p> mnaines, blocking an IP completely
[11:27] <q0_0p> mnaines, it isn't already blocked
[11:27] <q0_0p> mnaines, a dhcp server serving 19 cpus and u want to block just one
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu-Noob:  clarify what you mean/rephrase the question in here.
[11:27] <mnaines> q0_0p: I cannot help.  Sorry
[11:27] <q0_0p> mnaines, aight its cool
[11:28] <theallan> Hello all - having an issue installing libavcodec52 on Karmic - it says that it depends on libdirac-encoder0, but that is not installable - any idea where I mgiht find libdirac-encoder0?
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu-Noob:  you need to run 'nvidia-settings' as root with gksudo nvidia-settings - to save the settings to the xorg.conf
[11:29] <Gingle_> anyone seeing xdmx working recently?
[11:29] <Gingle_> seen
[11:30] <joaopinto> !karmic | theallan
[11:31] <theallan> ubottu: thanks! I'll ask in there :-)
[11:33] <Nimo> how i can install real player in ubuntu?
[11:34] <callum__> Hi does anyone know how to find out what WIFI Card and Network Ethernet port my laptops hardware is on Ubuntu?
[11:35] <callum__> I need this information for downloading of drivers for Windows XP -
[11:35] <callum__> Windows XP won't pick up my ethernet or wifi driver - so is there a way ubuntu can tell me what network hardware i am using please?
[11:35] <nysosym> its impossible to click on links/buttons in a flash app, any fix?
[11:36] <JanC89> callum__, try running lspci
[11:36] <callum__> Jan how do i run that? Please
[11:36] <paipimenta> how do I setup pxe so that I can install windows on a separate partition with an .iso?
[11:36] <grawity> callum__: Accessories --> Terminal
[11:38] <abongile1> Hi All, ignore my last found a workaround from: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/366109, so now I am back to the UNR desktop. Not perfect cause my Task bar and or it's icons are gone but certaintly better than where I was.
[11:38] <JanC89> Just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on a Macbook version 2.1. Everything is working except keyboard layout and right click. I've followed the guide on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook2-1/Jaunty, but the only way for me to right click is if i I put two fingers on the pad, and then click
[11:38] <fahadsadah> Does host respects /etc/hosts?
[11:38] <ikonia> fahadsadah: does what ?
[11:38] <judas> hi, i have strange problem with the terminal, trying to delete lines from a file so i make something like "cat data | sed > data", but the file is empty
[11:39] <judas> it happens only the first time
[11:39] <JanC89> Howerver, normaly you only need to tab the pad with two fingers to rightclick
[11:39] <ikonia> judas: what is the exact line your trying to use
[11:39] <fahadsadah> ikonia: host
[11:39] <fahadsadah> The command.
[11:39] <judas> cat UrT-data | sed -e '/You were hit/d' > UrT-data
[11:39] <yusa> hello, can anyone help me with virtualbox installation ?
[11:39] <haytham-med> hi all, can i install ubuntu on a logical volume?
[11:39] <callum__> Thankyou people x
[11:39] <judas> second time it works
[11:39] <callum__> SO MUCH - I can finally get back to windows with internet x
[11:39] <judas> it does not work the first time
[11:39] <judas> the file is empty afterwards
[11:40] <ikonia> fahadsadah: no, should read just dns
[11:40] <judas> so i "can't" reproduce the error
[11:40] <ltspadmin> hi
[11:40] <fahadsadah> Is there a similar tool that does respect /etc/hosts?
[11:40] <grawity> fahadsadah: getent hosts $1
[11:40] <fahadsadah> Thanks
[11:40] <ikonia> judas: change the name of the output file and see if it works the second time
[11:41] <ikonia> haytham-med: yes you can
[11:41] <grawity> fahadsadah: Or <?php echo gethostbyname($argv[1]); ?> or whatever. (As long as it uses gethostbyname())
[11:41] <judas> means when i run the command without writing to a file, it displays the correct result
[11:41] <ltspadmin> i installed ubuntu 9.10 64bit. ltsp server...which is the fastet evloution version for updated..ltsp server
[11:41] <haytham-med> ok
[11:41] <judas> if I then write it to the file it works
[11:41] <ikonia> judas: change the name of the output file to something new, then see if it works,
[11:41] <judas> it's just the first time
[11:41] <judas> yeahaha
[11:41] <ltspadmin> evolution 2.22 is faster the n2.28
[11:41] <ltspadmin> evolution 2.22 is faster the n2.26
[11:42] <judas> works
[11:42] <ikonia> judas: you're creating the file with the output of the same name, that's why it fails the first time and creates an empty file
[11:43] <judas> but why does it not fail the second time?
[11:43] <ikonia> judas: because you create an empty file for it to run on with the first attempt
[11:43] <haytham-med> ikonia: is lvm available on ubuntu cd or the alternaye cd?
[11:43] <haytham-med> alternate*
[11:43] <ikonia> haytham-med: alternative only I believe
[11:44] <judas> seems reasonable, thx ikonia
[11:44] <ltspadmin> i installed ubuntu 9.10 64bit. ltsp server...which is the fastet evloution version for updated..ltsp server
[11:44] <ltspadmin> evolution 2.22 is faster the n2.26
[11:45] <ikonia> ltspadmin: why do you keep telling us this ?
[11:45] <NineTeen67Comet> Haya, how can I reset/re-request a dhcp address? I have tried: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart and even rebooted the box a couple times, but it has not been able to connect to the internet since restarting the Comcast cable router (the phone was a mess so they had my father-in-law restart his router).
[11:45] <ikonia> ltspadmin: 1.) this channel is for ubuntu 9.04 and earlier support, #ubuntu+1 for 9.10 discussion 2.) why do you keep telling us these random comments ?
[11:46] <kcsrnd> he sounds like a disgruntled evolution developer that got kicked off at version 2.22
[11:46] <^mNotIntelligent> rotflol !
[11:46] <mnaines> ikonia: Is there supposed to be a 1.6% overhead on ext3/ext4?
[11:47] <ikonia> mnaines: a subjective question that is, the short answer is "no", however it appears in certain situations there can be an overhead
[11:47] <mo0nykit> How do I get a list of loadable modules?
[11:47] <asn_> #
[11:48] <judas> how would i delete lines from a file then?
[11:48] <ikonia> judas: you have it right, however the file you where doing it on doesn't exist in your first attempt
[11:49] <NineTeen67Comet> Is there a command I can use to renew my IP via dhcp? Like release/renew? I "think" my father-in-law's box (9.04) is having issues with it's dhcp address not getting refreshed after resetting the modem (cable).
[11:49] <judas> means i can't read the file, parse it with sed and write the output to the same file afterwards?
[11:49] <vavar> is konqueror still available in the latest kde?
[11:49] <ikonia> NineTeen67Comet: dhclient will re-request it each time, the lease is normally stored on the server, rather than the client
[11:50] <kcsrnd> ok, when i installed ubuntu, i moved all of my files from my windows installation to an ntfs partition at the end of the drive.  I put the main partition in the front and a 20gb swap in the middle.  i loaded the ubuntu livecd started gparted, deleted both partitions at the end.  but it still shows two separate unallocated spaces
[11:50] <NineTeen67Comet> vavar: thought Konq was core to KDE
[11:50] <grawity> NineTeen67Comet: KDE 4 uses Dolphin as its file manager.
[11:50] <vavar> NineTeen67Comet: i hope so. the latest screenshots dont show it usually. they just show off the great similarity to vista.. *sigh*
[11:50] <NineTeen67Comet> ikonia: can i just type dhclient eth0? or just dhclient?
[11:51] <grawity> NineTeen67Comet: sudo dhclient
[11:51] <NineTeen67Comet> aha
[11:51] <ikonia> NineTeen67Comet: I'd check the man page first, just to be sure you're not going to drop it off the network
[11:51] <grawity> or, meh. Maybe you do need to add eth0
[11:51] <ikonia> grawity: correct
[11:51] <NineTeen67Comet> ikonia: It's already offline (can't ping outside his house etc) ..
[11:51]  * grawity already forgot how to use it.
[11:52] <NineTeen67Comet> I'm on the phone with him now, I'll see if that works
[11:52] <vavar> NineTeen67Comet: well, its still there. i just had to say that i wouldnt like it being exchanged by dolphin or whatever.
[11:52] <paipimenta> kcsrnd: isn't the swap in the middle? or did you delete that too?
[11:52] <kcsrnd> anyone have any idea why i can't merge these two empty spaces after deleting my partitions?  one was swap and one was ntfs.  it looks like i can't change the swap partition mostly
[11:52] <kcsrnd> i deleted both
[11:53] <kcsrnd> turned "swapoff"
[11:53] <paipimenta> kcsrnd: what does fdisk look like?
[11:53] <kcsrnd> well, i created new partitions now
[11:53] <kcsrnd> so i had a swap
[11:53] <kcsrnd> and another ext3
[11:53] <nibbler__> kcsrnd: first umount swapoff all, delete pratitions, create one new....
[11:53] <kichawa> o/
[11:53] <kcsrnd> i ran from livecd, turned swapoff
[11:53] <kcsrnd> deleted both partitions
[11:53] <kcsrnd> had two empty spaces
[11:54] <kcsrnd> the same size.
[11:54] <kcsrnd> as the partitions used to be
[11:54] <nibbler__> kcsrnd: write all info in one line, please!
[11:54] <kcsrnd> sorry
[11:54] <nic1> wht is the command to reboot?
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> nic1:  err.. 'reboot'
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> :)
[11:55] <nic1> ok
[11:55] <kichawa> my friend is testing 9.10 on the usb stick, it's strange because Xorg pid takes about 95% of one core, if we restard X server everything is ok
[11:56] <nibbler__> kcsrnd: on, if you want to have one partiton, the free spaces for that must be contiuous.... you can work around with LVM if yu need to
[11:56] <gribouille> hi
[11:56] <gribouille> is openoffice themable ?
[11:57] <kcsrnd> nibbler__ never used lvm, is it pretty technical?
[11:57] <Dada_> Hi there. I was wondering, is it possible to install ubuntu without also installing grub/lilo? (I want to keep using the chameleon boot loader I have now)
[11:57] <paipimenta> kcsrnd: oh man, it can be a bitch
[11:57] <paipimenta> :-D
[11:57] <kcsrnd> i'm installing
[11:57] <paipimenta> but useful, especially if you have MORE THAN ONE hard drive
[11:57] <gribouille> Dada_, of course it is
[11:57] <kcsrnd> ugh.
[11:57] <nibbler__> kcsrnd: well, its great, but with great power comes great complexity ;-) - its doable, but i'd suggest you to make a complete repartitioning of your harddrive instead
[11:58] <Dada_> can I have this option with the ubuntu netbook installer version? or do I need the alternate cd?
[11:58] <paipimenta> for certain setups, I'd wish I'd stuck with regular partitions
[11:58] <paipimenta> enterprises with large disk farms... lvm is a beauty
[11:58] <kcsrnd> yeah.. i'm gonna back everything up onto my external, like i should've in the first place
[11:58] <kcsrnd> and install karmic when the final comes out
[11:59] <kcsrnd> my external is at my office and i was too lazy to go get it that's why i did the partition thing, i didn't know it was going to be that big of a pain
[11:59] <OneMillionDollar> is there any wysiwyg editor for ubuntu ?
[11:59] <paipimenta> gedit?
[12:00] <grawity> OneMillionDollar: For what, HTML?
[12:00] <paipimenta> openoffice.org
[12:00] <paipimenta> gedit, get it?
[12:00] <chu_> Hey any Australians with Telstra BigPond here?
[12:01] <OneMillionDollar> gravity yes
[12:01] <evident> hello... is there something like daemon tools for ubuntu? something to mount DVD-iso's without burning?
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> abiword is a nice word processor - lot lighter then openoffice
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> evident:  linux has been able to do that for years.
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> !iso
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> evident:  no need for any special tools.. its a feature of the os.
[12:02] <Sandking> hi
[12:02] <evident> ok thx
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> evident:  dont expect special game copy protection to 'work' however
[12:02] <paipimenta> alright, so I'm going to setup my computer for dual boot (ubuntu/windows server 2003) except I only have an .iso.....
[12:02] <OneMillionDollar> i'm looking for wysiwyg html editior
[12:02] <paipimenta> how do I do that?
[12:02] <Sandking> fast newbie question - how to run app with admin privilege from file browser?
[12:02] <chu_> open file browser with root privs?
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> paipimenta:  i would get unetbootin, make a bootable flash drive from the iso file..  and use that to 'install' from
[12:03] <paipimenta> I don't know if my computer boots from flash drive.... how do I update BIOS?
[12:03] <jophish> Sandking, in a terminal run "sudo nautilus &"
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  short answer. you dont.  You could do 'alt-f2' 'gksudo whateverprogram'  as a quick way.
[12:03] <allenbradley> On startup choose bootorder
[12:03] <kcharih> hello everybody
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  you want run the FILE manager as root? that can cause .. issues..
[12:03] <jophish> hi
[12:04] <Sandking> ok, i thought that there's some right click stuff or something
[12:04] <fahadsadah> !graphicalsudo | jophish
[12:04] <fahadsadah> !gksu | jophish
[12:04] <paipimenta> allenbradley: first:floppy, second:CD,third:HD
[12:04] <evident> Dr_Willis, what do I enter for "<mountpoint>" when mounting the iso?
[12:04] <paipimenta> what would I change about that order?
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  ive seen some extensoons/scripts that might enable/allow it..  perhaps in the  ubuntu-tweak tool
[12:04] <jophish> thanks fahadsadah, just realised that
[12:04] <Sandking> i don't want to run file browser as a root - only app from within file browser as root
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> evident:  the name of the directory you want to mpount the iso TO
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> evident:  where it will show up
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> !mount | evident
[12:04] <allenbradley> paipimenta: Uhh. you _want_it to boot from flash?
[12:05] <OneMillionDollar> i'm looking for wysiwyg html editior
[12:05] <legend2440> !kompozer | OneMillionDollar
[12:05] <jophish> Sandking, there is a nautilus extension to open a terminal in the current directory, you could use that, and run the program from terminal
[12:05] <allenbradley> Sandking, sudo nautilus?
[12:05] <Sandking> jophish: ok, thx. i think i'll just run the app from terminal
[12:05] <jophish> no problem,
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  if you want you could make a script that lanches the app that way.. if you need to do it more then once.
[12:06] <Sandking> allenbradley: i don't want to have whole nautilus as admin - only selected app. but as i said, i just use terminal
[12:06] <Sandking> Dr_Willis:  scripts for me is black magic - i'm not so techy guy
[12:06] <allenbradley> Sandking: Fair enough
[12:07] <BlouBlou> I am thinking about publish in internet bot's log folder, how can I do it?
[12:08] <kichawa> my friend is testing 9.10 on the usb stick, it's strange because Xorg pid takes about 95% of one core, if we restard X server everything is ok
[12:08] <chu_> I'm pretty sure I can change my repo server to BigPond's mirror, however, in the software sources GUI there's no way of selecting the BigPond server, so, is there a way I can just change the text directly?
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  time to learn then i guess..
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> !abs | Sandking
[12:08] <Sandking> Dr_Willis: well, you can't learn everything, do you? ;)
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  a 2 line script...   #!/bin/bash     gksudo programyouwant
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  yes.. yes i DO in fact.. :)
[12:09] <Sandking> sounds easy if you know something about it
[12:09] <blue-frog> Sandking: the scripts will have to be placed in .gnome2/nautilus-scripts
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  theres some web sites with lots of Nautilus-scripts out also. :) if ya really want to explore this 'overlooked' feature of nautilus
[12:10] <mo0nykit> Hi! I'm trying to help my friend install gnome-ppp. He doesn't have Internet connection with Linux, but he can download through Windows. Here's what I'm planning to do http://paste.ubuntu.com/289986/ How do I instruct him to install the debs while automatically taking care of dependencies?
[12:10] <acctoujours> abs-guide
[12:11] <Sandking> Dr_Willis: right now I'm trying to get an "overlooked" feature of terminal called "running apps as admin"... you're talking with simple point'n'click user, all right? :]
[12:11] <denmark> :))moonykit u can use wvdial
[12:11] <mo0nykit> denmark, is wvdial installed by default?
[12:12] <Sandking> damn it would be nice if terminal had options to point and click ;]
[12:12] <denmark> yes
[12:12] <denmark> sudo wvdial
[12:12]  * Dr_Willis hides Sandking 's mouse
[12:12] <Sandking> Dr_Willis: no, really ;] after listing files point and click on file would be just an extension. i bet someone did something like that
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  dare we ask what you are trying to run as admin?
[12:13] <mo0nykit> denmark, actually I have already sent him the files, then told him to "sudo dpkg -i gnome-ppp-<version number blah>" from /var/cache/apt/archives, he says wvdial is not installed
[12:13]  * Sandking blushes
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  install/run 'mc'   its a text based file manager.. :) a must have tool you can 'sudo mc' to do root tasks with it.
[12:13] <Sandking> vbox addition tools
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  so you want to run 'sudo virtualboxaddons.sh' or whatever its called...
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> actually that may need gksudo (since its a gui installer i think)
[12:14] <bobby> hey all
[12:14] <Sandking> Dr_Willis: I did sudo appname and it tells me command not found...
[12:14] <denmark> mo0nykit install it - sudo apt-get install wvdial
[12:14] <tushar777> hi every1
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  becase the app s not in your current directory.
[12:14] <bobby> tushar777, hi
[12:14] <mo0nykit> denmark, BTW me doing a "sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp --download-only" will also download the wvdial package, so that means that the wvdial.deb is already in the PPP.tar that I sent my friend
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  if its on the Desktop its in /home/username/Desktop
[12:15] <tushar777> hi bobby..
[12:15] <Sandking> Dr_Willis: no, I am in the dir where the app is
[12:15] <Sandking> Dr_Willis: I listed all files and it's here
[12:15] <bobby> tushar777, where from/
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  then you typed the name wring..  try the TAB key to complete the name
[12:15] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  and Case Is ImpoRanTAnT
[12:15] <denmark> mo0nykit what actully u want to do ?
[12:15] <Sandking> Dr_Willis: yep, I know - I use autofill
[12:15] <mo0nykit> denmark, so, you mean, after my friend copies the .deb files to /var/cache/apt/archives, he can "sudo apt-get install wvdial" from anywhere? (He doesn't have Internet connection from within Linux)
[12:16] <Sandking> Dr_Willis: app has extension .run - does it change anything
[12:16] <blue-frog> Sandking: http://pastebin.com/d447bf85d
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> Sandking:  it saying thats an executable you actually "execute' like you do anything else
[12:16] <denmark> dear mo0nykit do not download it
[12:16] <mo0nykit> denmark, I want to help my friend install PPP tools. He doesn't have internet connection from Linux. He has a USB modem (HSDPA/GPRS)
[12:16] <blue-frog> Sandking: then you will be able to right click on a program choose script/runas (in nautilus) and run the program
[12:16] <Dr_Willis> sh whatever.run, or chmod +x whatever.run     THEn ./whatever.run
[12:16] <Sandking> blue-frog: thx for effort, but i'm just trying to di it in terminal
[12:17] <tushar777> can nokia n73 usb modem can be used to connect to internet on Ubuntu 8.04
[12:17] <mo0nykit> denmark, I was thinking along the lines of giving my friend the .debs which I can send as email, then he can download from within Windows, then transfer the files through USB flash drive to his Linux box
[12:17] <Sandking> i can't run it from nautilus since it req admin priv
[12:17] <paipimenta> sudo nautilus :-)
[12:17] <helly> Hi -am I able to ask a question about Pidgin here please?
[12:17] <denmark> mo0nykit sudo apt-get install wvdial  just use this
[12:18] <denmark> then your friend  connect via gprs a
[12:18] <grawity> helly: Sure
[12:18] <denmark> don't download any thing just use this command
[12:18] <Sandking> paipimenta: hell, that works ;]
[12:18] <paipimenta> really!
[12:19] <Sandking> i just wanted to do one geeky thing by doing it by hand from terminal ;]
[12:19] <Sandking> but well - i'm not geeky enough :D
[12:19] <paipimenta> "Make me a sandwich." 'make you're own sandwich!'  "sudo Make me a sandwich"  'ok'
[12:19] <blue-frog> Sandking: sudo /media/cdrom/VBoxLinux-x86.run
[12:19] <grawity> paipimenta: your*
[12:19] <helly> grawity: thanks. I have a problem (mostly with my GF) who wants flashing orange notifications when a new message is received. I have been able to turn on flashing notifications but I havenot been able to set the colour to the windows orange. Any ideas?
[12:19] <blue-frog> Sandking: use tab t get the right name
[12:19]  * ^mNotIntelligent rotflol
[12:20] <Sandking> blue-frog: i did it from suded nautilus
[12:20] <paipimenta> grawity: yikes, over typed too
[12:20] <Sandking> blue-frog: but i also tried to do it as you typed with no luck
[12:20] <Sandking> but it's already installing
[12:20] <jacquesdupontd> hey guys
[12:20] <paipimenta> when I was at Yahoo!, there was this beautiful comic strip on the developers wiki page about editors
[12:20] <blue-frog> Sandking: vbox additions don't care if installed or not.  if you issue the command it installs
[12:21] <tushar777> Hi: Is there any way to upgrade ubuntu from 8.04 to 9.04...Plz help...
[12:21] <paipimenta> http://xkcd.com/378/
[12:21] <nibbler__> tushar777: go via 8.10
[12:21] <paipimenta> oh yes!!!!
[12:21] <Fishie> tushar777, sure, upgrade to 8.10 first and then go 9.04
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#id2508127 Installing virtual box guest addations......
[12:21] <Sandking> ok, ok - i did it
[12:21] <denmark> mo0nykit after installing wvdial edit /etc/wvdial.conf file
[12:21] <tushar777> ok....thanks paipimenta
[12:22] <paipimenta> tushar777: no, that's a joke
[12:22] <Sandking> thanks everyone for help
[12:22] <paipimenta> but a very good one!!!!! http://xkcd.com/378/
[12:22] <jacquesdupontd> i don't understand everything is working perfectly compiz, warsow and many other things and i can't play Flash Videos on either Chromium either Firefox 3.5 smoothly, is flash that bad for ubuntu ? the difference with windows is impressive on a playback youtubevideo. May you know this problem and have a solution ?
[12:22] <tushar777> and is virtual box good for installing Ubuntu 9.04
[12:22] <grawity> Real programmers use Notepad.
[12:22] <paipimenta> :-P yuck
[12:22] <blue-frog> tushar777: if you wish. yes
[12:23] <paipimenta> yeah, I love notepad's autocomplete for functions ??
[12:23] <soreau> jacquesdupontd: Which graphics driver are you using?
[12:23] <jacquesdupontd> nvidia propriety
[12:23] <jacquesdupontd> lemme check the version but i think the 180
[12:23] <tushar777> Will I be able to connect to the internet from within VirtualBox....
[12:23] <jacquesdupontd> 180.44
[12:24] <jacquesdupontd> soreau, an idea ?
[12:24] <helly> grawity: thanks. Pidgin flashing orange notifications when a new message is received? I have been able to turn on flashing notifications but I have not been able to set the colour to the windows orange. Any ideas?
[12:24] <blue-frog> tushar777: if you wish yes
[12:24] <Sandking> tushar777: if i did it, you will for sure ;]
[12:24] <tushar777> Thanks Sandking for an good answer...Sure I will give it a try...
[12:24] <soreau> jacquesdupontd: Have you checked your cpu usage when trying to play flash content? How did you install flash?
[12:25] <Sandking> tushar777: for me it worked out of the box
[12:25] <tushar777> I have an ADSL (PPPoE) connection...
[12:25] <Sandking> oh...
[12:25] <jacquesdupontd> soreau, that's the thing the cpu is going very far
[12:26] <blue-frog> tushar777: the host is initiating the adls connection not the guest
[12:26] <jacquesdupontd> soreau, i installed it like everybody by the flash site and i also tried by reposotories
[12:26] <jacquesdupontd> anyway the .so is the .so that's all
[12:27] <tushar777> I tried ubuntu in VirtualBox but it didnt get the full screen view as it would have with normal installation
[12:27] <soreau> jacquesdupontd: Perhaps you should try undoing whatever you did to install it and try flashplugin-nonfree from the ubuntu repos instead
[12:27] <Sandking> tushar777: i had the same - just install those additions
[12:27] <Nimo>  i can not install vlc player. it shows..... E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?     what can i do?
[12:28] <tushar777> will I need to download those additions...
[12:28] <mo0nykit> denmark, it's my friend who has the problem :) He can't "sudo apt-get install" because he doesn't have Internet connection from within Linux
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#id2508127 Installing virtual box guest addations......
[12:28] <Nimo>  i can not install vlc player. it shows..... E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?     what can i do?
[12:29] <tushar777> Thanks Dr_Willis for help...
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> Nimo:  close out all other apps that are update/trying to install things.
[12:29] <mo0nykit> denmark, or do you mean he can "sudo apt-get install wvdial" because he already has the necessary debs in /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[12:29] <blue-frog> Nimo how many package manager are running?
[12:29] <helly> Hi All - not sure on the spamming rules here so apologies. I am trying to figure out how I can change the colour of flashing notifications for received messages with Pidgin. Can anyone help?
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> tushar777:  they MIGHT be in the repositories.. ive not looked lately
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> tushar777:  or use the menu items to make it download/mount the guest addations iso file
[12:30] <JohnWayne> "When I had a fucktard roommate in college my first semester. He came home drunk one night passed out and I raped him with a broom handle, making sure his ass was nice and bloody. Then I left and slept in my car. When I got back the next morning, I opened the door and he was cleaning the blood and shit off of his bedsheets. He asked me what happened to him and I said that I walked in on him having sex with a big black guy, so I slept 
[12:30] <yusa> hello, can anyone help me with virtualbox installation ? I'm totally newbie :\
[12:30] <Ubuntu-Noob> I feel my dream of freedom from MS Windows may soon become reality... thanks for your previous help Dr_Willis
[12:30] <elky> JohnWayne, please dont do that.
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> !virtualbox | yusa
[12:31] <JohnWayne> hello, can anyone help me with virtualbox installation ? I'm totally newbie :\
[12:31] <Nimo> only one
[12:31] <jhattara> are there any GUI tools to edit fstab ?
[12:31] <JohnWayne> are there any GUI tools to edit fstab ?
[12:31] <jacquesdupontd> soreau, that's exactly the same
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> any text editor can do that jhattara
[12:31] <JohnWayne> soreau, that's exactly the same
[12:31] <JohnWayne> any text editor can do that jhattara
[12:31] <jacquesdupontd> soreau, i just tried swiftfox and it does the trick a bit
[12:31] <jhattara> Dr_Willis, i know very well i can do it with a text editor, but i'd like to knw if there are any GUI tools that would make it a bit more simple
[12:32] <Nimo> i can not install vlc player. it shows..... E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?     what can i do? i mam not installing any other application.
[12:32] <blue-frog> Nimo: sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[12:32] <blue-frog> Nimo: if you are trying to install things in command line and have synatic open at the same time. it won't work
[12:32] <Prune> is there an application that can open a pdf, then save it to another format?
[12:33] <helly> Prune: open office
[12:33] <Prune> thanks, helly
[12:33] <helly> Prune:grab the PDF editor addon as well
[12:34] <helly> Hi All - not sure on the spamming rules here so apologies. I am trying to figure out how I can change the colour of flashing notifications for received messages with Pidgin. Can anyone help?
[12:34] <Prune> is that an add-on to office?
[12:34] <helly> Prune: yep - just google PDF editor for open office
[12:34] <ProximaCentauri> hi all, is there a application to display the song lyric from current playing song
[12:34] <Prune> thanks again helly
[12:35] <[x]Sodium[X]> hello
[12:35] <[x]Sodium[X]> hello
[12:35] <system4041> amarok media player retirieves sng lyrics for you
[12:35] <[x]Sodium[X]>  how can i install englihtment
[12:35] <ProximaCentauri> i m using rythmbox, its nice and i can display the lyric with ctrl L, but i would like to have something else to visualise the lyric
[12:35] <system4041> rythmbox is lame get amarok
[12:35] <ProximaCentauri> system4041, thanks, i can retrieve sng lyric
[12:36] <[x]Sodium[X]>  how can i install englihtment
[12:36] <Nimo> i can not install vlc player. it shows..... E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?     what can i do? i am not installing any other application. my synaptic package manager is not open also.
[12:36] <ProximaCentauri> i just want to display it on the desktop or like a screensaver
[12:36] <system4041> ProximaCentauri: u mean in a kareoke type of way
[12:36] <ProximaCentauri> system4041, yes, something like that
[12:37] <denmark> :)
[12:37] <system4041> id google for some kareoke aps for linux then
[12:37] <system4041> once u find an app search for i in synptics
[12:37] <guitar-maniac> hi! can anyone help me out?
[12:37] <ProximaCentauri> karaoke, thats a good idea, thanks for the keywoard
[12:37] <ProximaCentauri> word
[12:37] <Sidewinder1> !ask
[12:37] <guitar-maniac> ubuntu does not regognize my ipod..
[12:37] <system4041> guitar whats up
[12:38] <Nimo> i can not install vlc player. it shows..... E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?     what can i do? i am not installing any other application. my synaptic package manager is not open also.
[12:38] <guitar-maniac> i connect my ipod to pc, it shows the files bu  banshee, hipo ipod manager etc cant seem to find it..
[12:38] <blue-frog> Nimo: sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock   what is the output?
[12:38] <Nimo> sme problem
[12:38] <Nimo> same problem
[12:38] <bazhang> ProximaCentauri, pykaraoke is one such worth a try
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> !!aptfix
[12:38] <blue-frog> Nimo: it is not the answer to my question
[12:39] <jhattara> if i'm putting an ext4 partition as a secondary drive, should i add the same options (relatime,errors=remount-ro), dump (0) and pass (1) on it in fstab?
[12:39] <ProximaCentauri> bazhang, yes, i saw pykaraoke in synaptic by typing karaoke, hmm i am not sure if this is what i am looking for
[12:40] <eca> ferdy...........
[12:40] <Nimo>  it shows................ lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/m/.gvfs
[12:40] <Nimo>       Output information may be incomplete.
[12:40] <Nimo> COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE   NODE NAME
[12:40] <Nimo> apt-get 7706 root    4uW  REG    7,0    0 173821 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[12:40] <FloodBot3> Nimo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:40] <eca> ferdy
[12:40] <system4041> guitar-maniac: sudo apt get songbird
[12:40] <system4041> or seach for songbird in syapti
[12:40] <Bilge> When I first installed linux-image-server it copied the kernel files to /boot, but after deleting them I cannot get them to copy any more, even with remove/install or --reinstall commands
[12:40] <blue-frog> Nimo: then you have your answer apt-get is still running
[12:40] <ProximaCentauri> maybe there is some lyric extension for a composite manager ?
[12:41] <blue-frog> nimo sudo pkill apt-get
[12:41] <guitar-maniac> ok ill try songbird
[12:41] <Bilge> How do I get apt to copy the files linked with linux-image-server again?
[12:41] <system4041> guitar-maniac: let me know how u get on
[12:42] <Nimo> thanks. now its working..
[12:42] <zachary> Hello, I am 22 years old, I am unemployed and I also live with my parents.. What sort of PC should I get?
[12:42] <tushar777> hi..how do i connect to internet from VirtualBox
[12:43] <guitar-maniac> it dont find songbirg, i typoed in the terminal sudo apt-get songbird
[12:43] <hiiiii> hello
[12:43] <system4041> guitar-maniac: try searching synaptic
[12:43] <guitar-maniac> i tried, result were some pidgin plugin.. i also tried to add/remowe software
[12:44] <hiiiii> guitar-maniac use apt-get install songbird
[12:44] <tushar777> hi..how do i connect to internet from VirtualBox
[12:44] <zachary> maybe you do not have one of the respositories songbird is located in
[12:44] <mnaines> zachary: Try a cheap laptop
[12:44] <zachary> in /etc/apt/sources.lst
[12:44] <hiiiii> tushar beta bakwas band karo
[12:44] <guitar-maniac> E: Pakettia songbird ei löytynyt
[12:44] <guitar-maniac> guitar-maniac@guitar-maniac-desktop:~$
[12:44] <guitar-maniac> it says it cant find songbird
[12:45] <zachary> mnaines: will it get me women?
[12:45] <Termana> zachary - build your own. A mammas boy like you has no time for anything else
[12:45] <guitar-maniac> sudo apt-get update? wuold updating help?
[12:45] <hiiiii> guitar-maniac use sudo apt-get install songbird
[12:45] <tushar777> I want to access Internet from Virtual box interface...I currently have virtualbox open...
[12:45] <mnaines> zachary: If you're interested in picking up women, don't rely on a car or a computer to do it for you.  Your own personality will determine how well women like you
[12:46] <guitar-maniac> i used sudo in the beginning and gave my password
[12:46] <Termana> tushar777 - have you enabled the ethernet interface in the preferences?
[12:46] <guitar-maniac> i try to update the packages..
[12:46] <zachary> Termana: let me rephrase to be more specific.. I am 22 years old unemployed, a virgin, and I live with my parents... My parents have also caught me masturbating several times... is this a big issue?
[12:46] <tushar777> let me check plz..
[12:46] <Termana> zachary - I'll just gather more information for you, please hold.
[12:46] <hiiiii> guitar-maniac open synaptic and search songbird
[12:46] <Termana> :P
[12:46] <mnaines> zachary: This is not the place for talking about that stuff
[12:47] <system4041> http://www.songbirdnest.com/download
[12:47] <zachary> mnaines: I figured an ubuntu irc channel would have tons of people who could relate to my dillema
[12:47] <zachary> sorry
[12:47] <mnaines> zachary: Most of us have been out on our own for years
[12:47] <Termana> zachary - go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:47] <system4041> guitar-maniac: http://www.songbirdnest.com/download
[12:48] <system4041> guitar-maniac: then go to http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/media-players-available-for-ubuntu.html and about a 3rd the way down the page you will find the install instructions
[12:48] <tushar777> I don't know how to check that...sorry..I am noob...
[12:49] <Termana> tushar - I don't have VirtualBox installed, but if IIRC, right click the VM in the VM list and click Preferences and on the side their should be something like "Network" click that
[12:50] <skrzypek> hi
[12:51] <tushar777> Thanks I am connected....I added the Network in the VBox preferences and I am now connected...
[12:52] <Termana> No problem, glad to help :)
[12:52] <tushar777> It seems like I am connected via Adapter1
[12:52] <tushar777> Thanks a lot Termana
[12:53] <tushar777> Now installing the VirtualBox guest additions...
[12:53] <yusa> what is base memory for ?
[12:53] <yusa> it says recomemdent size is 512
[12:54] <yusa> so that will give 512 ram to guest os ?
[12:54] <pratik_narain> I updated alsa to latest stable version by compiling and now i'm not able to record from my laptop's inbuilt mic
[12:54] <tushar777> I have alotted base memory as 256MB
[12:54] <Termana> yusa - yes, make sure you have enough for both the VM and your machine though
[12:54] <yusa> i got 8gb ram
[12:55] <yusa> so i think 3gb ram to VM will be ok for system ?
[12:55] <Termana> yusa - ahh, well you should be fine allocating a heap to the VM
[12:55] <Termana> yusa - should be fine
[12:55] <tushar777> I have only 10 percent RAM free...I am using Vista on 1GB RAM laptop....
[12:55] <yusa> thank you.
[12:55] <mnaines> yusa, VM uses 382MB per machine by default.  Every virtual machine you create is set for 382MB of RAM by default
[12:55] <root> hello
[12:56] <Lnx-> Lol
[12:56] <system4041> tushar777: ditch vista
[12:56] <skrzypek> rotfl
[12:56] <Lnx-> quanto tempo tem que nao entro no mirc ehhehehe
[12:56] <audiosensecd> guys gud pm need help to install webcam
[12:56] <Skibo> hello
[12:56] <rot> :[
[12:57] <Skibo> donde estas qui
[12:57] <mnaines> I was going to say the same thing, system4041...If he's only got 1GB of RAM to play with, then he shouldn't be using Vista
[12:57]  * Termana rolls eyes
[12:57] <harjot> anyone had a kopete proble with yahoo? doesnt connect
[12:57] <Termana> a kopete?
[12:57] <tushar777> I know Vista stresses my laptop a lot....But it is a genuine copy given to me by Compaq...
[12:57] <Termana> nevermind
[12:58] <guitar-maniac> i moved to file to the /opt, started extracting it, it it printed out huge amount of text, and after everyne line read the file dont exist or cant read
[12:58] <zachary> a kopete is a small creature that devours your soul
[12:58] <pratik_narain> I updated alsa to latest stable version by compiling and now i'm not able to record from my laptop's inbuilt mic
[12:58] <guitar-maniac> i have hipi ipod control and two other players in my system, any way to make ipod work on them?
[12:59] <harjot> Termana: instant messenging
[12:59] <system4041> guitar-maniac:  did u install songbird
[12:59] <Termana> harjot - yeah, I realized that when I used some google fu
[12:59] <tushar777> Can I safely unmount the VBox Guest addition cd from ubuntu from the desktop
[13:00] <harjot> ok
[13:00] <guitar-maniac> it says in hipo ipod manager that i pod not found. i cant install it :8 it says it cant be fuound, i have the downloaded file in th /opt, but cant extract it
[13:00] <tushar777> I have installed the guest additions
[13:00] <harjot> Termana: it doesnt connect anymore to yahoo
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> tushar777:  i always copy the  guest installer tool from the cd to my virtual machine, so i dont ahve to  bother with the cd any more if i need to reinstall them.. yes you can unmoun tit
[13:00] <mnaines> tushar777: I had the same problem you did...I used Vista for hard-core gaming and even with 4GB of RAM, Vista itself in gaming config with the aero desktop and everything running full steam needed at least half that
[13:00] <tushar777> ok mnaines I will try it right now...
[13:01] <Termana> tushar - the VM window should have its own menu for unmounting the virtual CD
[13:03] <Termana> harjot - what version are you running?
[13:03] <harjot> 0.12.7
[13:03] <tushar777> Thanks again mnaines and Termana
[13:03] <harjot> kubuntu 8.04 [im asking there too.]
[13:03] <mnaines> Dr_Willis: Can I log into Ubuntu remotely from other operating systems?
[13:05] <tushar777> oh..I have to make one correction..I have installed ubuntu with VirtualBox with 384 MB base memory...
[13:05] <harjot> kopete probllem any idea?
[13:05] <prefixthis_> i have much hate for ubuntu right now - i get nowhere trying to get sound out of my spdif output port
[13:05] <Termana> Do you know what version of KDE comes with Kubuntu 8.04 harjot?
[13:05] <hehea> hi
[13:05] <Chousuke> mnaines: yes
[13:06] <Chousuke> mnaines: the easiest way to enable that is to install the OpenSSH server
[13:06] <harjot> Termana: 3/3.5?
[13:06] <tushar777> is gcc installed in Ubuntu 9.04 by default....
[13:06] <bobby> tushar777, run gcc on command line
[13:06] <bobby> and see :)
[13:06] <harjot> Termana: yes 3/3.5
[13:06] <harjot> Termana: not 4
[13:06] <tushar777> I don't have 9.04 installed. My ubuntu version is 8.04
just unmute and select as default
[13:07] <chu_> Hey any Australians with Telstra BigPond here?
[13:07] <Termana> You need to have at least 3.3 installed harjot
[13:07] <harjot> ok....[how do i check?
[13:07] <harjot> ]
[13:07] <Termana> chu_ I do have Bigpond NextG wireless broadband
[13:07] <dux70> #ubuntu-it
[13:07] <chu_> Termana, do you know of their repo mirrors?
[13:08] <tushar777> I don't have 9.04 installed. My ubuntu version is 8.04 so i can't figure out if gcc is installed by default
[13:08] <chu_> it should be
[13:08] <prefixthis_> insmod: i've unmuted it in alsamixer, and i point to iec958 inside xbmc, which is the purpose here
[13:08] <bobby> tushar777, open a command line and type $gcc
[13:09] <mnaines> Chousuke: I got OpenSSH Server installed...What all do I have to do to log in remotely from, say, the internet?
[13:09] <greg__> hi guys trying to install some software.... i run the install script but then get the error /usr/src/linux no such file or directory - i ran apt-get install linux-source....what am i doing wrong?
just  apt-get install gcc it will tell you
[13:10] <Chousuke> mnaines: just ensure that your computer's port 22 is accessible from the internet, then get an openssh client and tell it to connect :P
[13:10] <anj> 怎么看函数的原型   终端man functionname 不行阿    有谁知道马
[13:10] <bazhang> anj #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[13:11] <kronos> hello!!!
[13:11] <greg__> mnaines - install and set up ddclient as well - that way if ur isp changes ur ip address u will always be able to access ur box just by banging in ur dyndns addrss
[13:11] <anj> ？
[13:11] <tushar777> Thanks insmod
[13:11] <bazhang> anj /join #ubuntu-cn
[13:11] <Guest8336> hello al... i need help...
[13:12] <mnaines> greg__: Which address do I use to connect if I'm coming from the internet?
[13:12] <Guest8336> i'm installed ubuntu 9.4, with gnome. but i am loh and install kde4...
[13:12] <greg__> mnaines - there is a how to on ddclient in the ubuntu forums - u will have to set up and register for dyndns though
[13:13] <grawity> mnaines: Your computer's IP address. Check with http://myip.dk/
[13:13] <anj> i see
[13:13] <grawity> mnaines: If it's a dynamic one (changes every day or something like that), you'll need to look up DynDNS and ddclient.
[13:13] <Guest8336> can i abort install kde?
[13:13] <Guest8336> hey, ethebody else???
[13:13] <mnaines> grawity: Its a static IP
[13:13] <bazhang> Guest8336, it is being installed right now?
[13:13] <grawity> mnaines: Then just pass it to a SSH client.
[13:13] <Guest8336> now...
[13:14] <przemo_one> hi
[13:14] <Guest8336> it installed on gnome. and i cant edit conf. files
[13:14] <ikonia> Guest8336: what do you mean you can't edit config files, which ones ?
[13:14] <bazhang> Guest8336, you want pure gnome?
[13:15] <guitar-maniac> rebooted after installing songbird, pluged my ipod to USB, but no, the files show on desktop but not in songbird..
[13:15] <Guest8336> i wont unistall gnome... or kde... pohui...
[13:15] <Guest8336> but i can't
[13:15] <ikonia> Guest8336: can you try to explain your question a little clearer please.
[13:15] <bazhang> Guest8336, you want no DE?
uninstall ?
[13:16] <Guest8336> yes...
 just apt-get remove
[13:16] <mnaines> grawity: Does Ubuntu offer SSH remote login capability at the login screen under login options?
[13:16] <tavi> salutare
[13:16] <ikonia> Guest8336: just disable the X server, that is the easy / quick option
[13:16] <tavi> i want to put all icons align at left
[13:16] <bazhang> Guest8336, you wish to have only command line?
[13:16] <tavi> how i do?
[13:16] <grawity> mnaines: I'm not sure.
[13:16] <Guest8336> thank u... i'm sorry, but i lamer...
[13:17] <ikonia> tavi: drag them
[13:17] <mnaines> grawity: What remote login option does Ubuntu offer by default?
that's wwhy I use a small debian cd nothing but bash then i install just what i need
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> tavi: right click desktop _> sort icons automatically
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> insmod: u-lite does that too
i use to do linux from scratch
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> insmod: me too, which is why i use ulite, i used to carve out what i dont need. now i only add what i want :)
[13:18] <linuksamiko> hello everyone. I have a pcmcia-card that works fine on my laptop but not on my desktop pc giving out this error: "pcmcia_socket0: time out after reset" both run 8.04 (hardy)
hate gnome and kde -- the wife likes kde --- i use fluxbox
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> insmod: lxde here
[13:19] <dwarder> why this command doesn't work sudo openssl req -new server.key -out server.csr
[13:19] <dwarder> why this command doesn't work: "sudo openssl req -new server.key -out server.csr"
[13:19] <grawity> dwarder: I think you forgot -key after -new?
to heavy for me
[13:19] <ikonia> dwarder: what error do you get ?
[13:19] <Chousuke> why are you using sudo though? :/
[13:20] <grawity> Chousuke: Maybe the key is only readable by root?
[13:20] <mnaines> Chousuke: What is a good SSH GUI program?
[13:20] <lv_> could you guys deal with 6.5kb/sec internet?
[13:20] <Chousuke> mnaines: for which OS?
[13:20] <grawity> mnaines: SSH itself doesn't have a GUI.
[13:20] <ikonia> NorwayGeek: ssh gui ? it's  terminal app ?
[13:20] <ikonia> oops
[13:20] <mnaines> Ubuntu
[13:20] <ikonia> mnaines: ssh is a terminal interface
[13:20] <NorwayGeek> O_o?
[13:20] <Chousuke> mnaines: on ubuntu you'd just open a terminal and use ssh user@somehost
[13:20] <ikonia> NorwayGeek: sorry
[13:20] <NorwayGeek> lol its fine
[13:20] <dwarder> grawity: thank you, you were right
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> insmod: lxde is super light
fish in konqueror
[13:21] <grawity> mnaines: It is possible to run GUI apps through SSH - use the -X parameter to enable this when connecting.
 not like fluxbox
[13:21] <hyperz> Afternoon fellow penguins <3
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> insmod: suprised you dont use flwm
[13:21] <mnaines> grawity: I am wanting a way to log in remotely without having to log in locally first
 fits on an A: disk
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> insmod: you mean a floppy ?
i would never use icons and crap
[13:22] <grawity> insmod: Why do you need a WM at all then?
yup based of blackbox -- which i wrote for i 96
[13:22] <tushar777> Thanks for all the help...Bye....I will return later...
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> grawity: flash in web browser ;)
[13:22] <chu_> Anyone who has set up http://mirror.files.bigpond.com/ for their repo downloads? I'm not really sure how to do it, if you can explain how you did it please.
why not -- just hate the bulk when i can do it fast
[13:24] <grawity> insmod: also, what the hell do you mean by "an A: disk"
floppy
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> chu_: you will need to add it to /etc/apt/sources.list
that's how little code there is
i once installed a sytem in 80 mb
[13:25] <grawity> 80 millibits?
[13:25] <stonk> Hi! Can anyone suggest a program i can run off the live CD to backup my entire harddisk to removeable storage? dd is too big, I'd like something a little more intelligent. thanks
megabites
[13:26] <ikonia> insmod: what do you want to do exactly ?
[13:26] <grawity> insmod: megabits are MB.
[13:26] <vatts> grawity: i *think* those are megabytes
[13:26] <grawity> Mb*
[13:26] <vatts> and yeah
[13:26] <grawity> vatts: Yeah :|
[13:26] <vatts> that's correct
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> chu_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=657559
[13:26] <vatts> ^_^
nothing
[13:26] <FloodBot3> vatts: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:26] <hyperz> hehe
[13:26] <vatts> bbl
 what ever
[13:28] <bullgard4> '~$ ps | grep udevd' obtains 3 hits. But why does System > Administration > System Monitor does not list udevd?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: dont ask in both channels
[13:29] <dux70_> #ubuntu-it
[13:29] <mnaines> How do I find the computer name in Ubuntu?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> mnaines: hostname
[13:30] <insmod> uname -n
[13:30] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: Please focus on answering and not on ploicing people.
[13:30] <bullgard4> s/ploicing/policing/
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: i do, it just causes surplus traffic and you'll find most users are in both
[13:31] <insmod> ActionParsnip>hostname uses uname
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> mnaines: or: cat /etc/hostname
[13:31] <insmod> ActionParsnip hostname uses uname
[13:31] <lv_> ActionParsnip, man you are gay
[13:31] <tavi> i want to put all icons align at left
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> insmod: more than one way to skin a cat eh ;)
[13:31] <grawity> insmod: No it doesn't.
[13:31] <tavi> keep align didn't worked
[13:31] <tavi> any ideea
[13:31] <tavi> ?
 yes
 yes
[13:32] <mnaines> ActionParsnip: Do I need an SSH Encryption Key on both machines to secure the connection or do I just need it on the machine that I am using at the time?
[13:33] <grawity> mnaines: You need it on both.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> mnaines: afaik, you copy the key from the client into the server
[13:35] <duk> hey ppl
[13:35] <ikonia> mnaines: are you trying to authenticate with ssh keys, or just have a secure connection
[13:35] <chu_> Cool, I think it now works.
[13:35] <chu_> Fun times.
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> chu_: cool, wtg :D
[13:36] <duk> does anyone know easy way to connect nokia 5610 to ubuntu..I just want do put some pictures to phone :D
[13:36] <mnaines> ikonia: I want secure authentication and I want the connection itself to be secure (paranoia-based security, I know, but that's just the way I am)
[13:36]  * duk pozz
[13:36] <ikonia> mnaines: so when you first ssh to a box it will offer a remote host based key, once you accept that, you're done, it's secure
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> mnaines: sh uses encryption so is secure
[13:37] <laperr> running ubuntu 9.04  x64 run xsane Segmentation fault is this a known issue
[13:37] <chu_> Well, I removed all repos but replaced it with the bigpond url, and refreshing update manager caused 6 more items to appear, so I can only assume it's working :p
[13:37] <KFJ> Eh, sorry to intrude, but can someone help me with an audio bug? I keep getting a constant buzzing :(
like what
[13:38] <insmod> KFJ: hmmmmmmmmm
[13:39] <duk> connecting nokia via usb??? anyone??
[13:39] <ikonia> duk: what about it ?
[13:39] <grawity> duk: When you connect the phone, does it show a menu?
[13:39] <KFJ> Eh, I plugged in my headphones to try to listen to music, it is like a TV Channel that is not working quite well.
[13:39] <duk> ]no
dmesg should pick it up
[13:39] <duk> it just show something about configuration modem
[13:40] <insmod> KFJ: laptop?
[13:40] <duk> desktop
[13:40] <KFJ> Yes, a very, very, very old laptop. (10 years old!)
[13:40] <insmod> KFJ: try mute the capture
[13:40] <TimothyA2> anyone here knows what 'ar' is? curl seems to complain about it when I'm attempting to compile it
[13:41] <grawity> TimothyA2: 'ar' is an archiver, kind of like tar but older.
[13:41] <KFJ> Eh, how do I mute capture? :S
[13:41] <TimothyA2> KFJ; psh, that's nothing. the government had an framework older than that
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> !info ar
[13:41] <Beria> Hi there, I want to install the open office 3.1 in my ubuntu but, for some reason that i don't know, the add/remove programs just install the 2.4 version. Anyone can help me?
[13:41] <TimothyA2> grawity; why would it need ar...
[13:41] <insmod> KFJ: mics on that's all
[13:41] <grawity> TimothyA2: For example, Debian .deb packages are 'ar' archives.
[13:41] <grawity> TimothyA2: But for curl - no idea at all.
[13:41] <TimothyA2> so, where do I grab this? :|
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Beria: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/install-openoffice-31-in-ubuntu-jaunty.html
[13:41] <TimothyA2> google likes to confuse it with 'are' which is an invalid search keyword
[13:42] <insmod> KFJ: use the fav mix app kmix alsamixer etc
[13:42] <bro> hey, is there any way i could make totem use gpu acceleration and make use of the dual-core (for HD) for ATI HD2600?
[13:42] <KFJ> Do you mean I should go to "Sound" and mute the input?
I was going to say buy nvidia but that is mean :)
[13:43] <insmod> KFJ: the capture -- no idea what "Sound" is
[13:43] <TimothyA2> grawity; no hint as to where to grab it?
[13:43] <bro> insmod, and impossible since i own a notebook :P [i know nvidia and even intel don't have problems]
[13:44] <KFJ> Sorry, but I'm not too great when it comes to ubuntu/linux, I've always used windows :P
shop first -- just use ati propriatary drivers
[13:45] <TimothyA2> grawity; nevermind, i think i just found it
[13:45] <KFJ> Can  you tell me how I mute the capture?
[13:45] <bro> insmod, already enabled them, not using compiz, simple avi's run ok, but HD are jerky
[13:46] <bobbob1016> I made a 4 drive raid5 with mdadm.  After I rebooted, the drive doesn't mount with "sudo mount /dev/md0/ /media/raid" says the device doesn't exist.  When I do "sudo mdadm --assemble --scan" it says /dev/md/0 is assembled with 3 out of 4 drives.  Any ideas on where the last drive went?  It shows up in gparted.
that's why i buy nvidia --- but you can edit xorg to help with HD
[13:47] <__w> hi, what's the equivalent of 'ping host -t' from windows?
[13:47] <bro> insmod, can you detail? what exactly i should edit in xorg?
[13:47] <grawity> dsdeiz: ping -i <ttl>
[13:47]  * Dr_Willis wonders what ping host t does.. :)
that's to long and i am almost in bed sorry
[13:48] <bro> insmod, ok, thanks anyway :)
[13:48] <grawity> dsdeiz: wait, the reverse... Linux ping already does that.
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> _
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz: ping in linux by default uses the equiv of -t
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz: you can make it act like windows ping using: ping -c 4 host
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz: otherwise it will simply ping forever (which is what -t does)
[13:49] <dsdeiz> oh, right.. lol
[13:49] <dsdeiz> ahh, it only stops once it doesn't receive a 'reply' right?
[13:50] <grawity> dsdeiz: No, it stops once you kill it.
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz: no it will just ping and ping and ping
[13:50] <dsdeiz> hmm, got it. thank you
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> dsdeiz: to stop it you press ctrl+c
[13:50] <grawity> dsdeiz: Windows ping -t == Linux ping.
[13:50] <grawity> dsdeiz: Windows ping == Linux ping -c 4
[13:50] <dwarder> grawity: sorry for bothering you, what did i miss in that command: "sudo openssl x509 -req -days 30 -in  ./server.csr -signkey -out server2.crt"
[13:50] <dsdeiz> right, thanks :)
[13:52] <dwarder> grawity: i missed server.key after -signkey
[13:52] <dwarder> grawity: thanks :)
[13:52] <KFJ> How do I mute the capture? :S
[13:54] <ruby_on_tails> hello
[13:54] <ruby_on_tails> is there a software for linux which can copy a whole site down on my HDD ?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> ruby_on_tails: wget or httrack
[13:54] <grawity> ruby_on_tails: wget --mirror
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> I think its httrack..  i may have to many t's
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> !info httrack
[13:55] <alexbh> Hi, I want to know if this touchscreen will be supported in 9.10: HP Pavilion tx 2510.... can somebody help me? thanks..
[13:55] <ikonia> alexbh: 9.10 support is in #ubuntu+!
[13:55] <ikonia> alexbh: 9.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[13:55] <joaopinto> !karmic | alexbh
[13:55] <ruby_on_tails> great :D thanks grawity, Dr_Willis
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> alexbh:  get a live cd  of 9.10 and try it
[13:56] <Beria> ActionParsnip: The error mensage: Falha ao obter http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ppa/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  maindeb-src/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[13:56] <Beria> Falhou o download de alguns ficheiros de índice, foram ignorados ou os antigos foram usados em seu lugar.
[13:56] <alexbh> thanks a lot guys
[13:56] <KFJ> How do I access volume control?
a mixer
[13:56] <L33> !info alsamixer
[13:57] <KFJ> I'll try to find this alsamixer, then :)
[13:58] <leleobhz> within knetworkmanager, how can i setup a static network as default instead Auth eth0 ?
[13:58] <amx109> =1
[13:59] <bobbob1016> I made a 4 drive raid5 with mdadm, I copied some data to it, now it won't assemble.  Can anyone help?
[14:00] <ruby_on_tails> I installed httrack, why can't I see it in my applications menu ?
[14:00] <ikonia> ruby_on_tails: how did you install it ?
[14:00] <ikonia> ruby_on_tails: is it a gui application ?
[14:00] <ruby_on_tails> ikonia: synaptec
[14:00] <gilly> hy
[14:01] <ruby_on_tails> yea its gui app
[14:01] <gilly> hy
[14:01] <ruby_on_tails> as it says "offline browser"
[14:01] <Two4> !games | Two4
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Beria: https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa
[14:01] <iwan> hyyy
[14:01] <ikonia> ruby_on_tails: can you launch it from the command line, not all packages have a applications menu icon
[14:01] <Koterpillar> How often does Karmic look for updates by default?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Beria: expand the technical details bit and add to sources.list (change the release name as you require)
[14:01] <rweait1> used a projector with my thinkpad t60 (Radeon x1400). preferences - Display prompted for virtual resolution and logout/login. How do I get back to full resolution after projector?
[14:01] <ikonia> Koterpillar: 9.10 support in #ubuntu+1 please
[14:02] <ruby_on_tails> I tried httrack, gnome-open httrack ikonia
[14:02] <ruby_on_tails> nothing opens up
[14:02] <Koterpillar> Oops, sorry. Jaunty then?
[14:02] <ikonia> Koterpillar: it queries the repos
[14:02] <Koterpillar> ikonia, how often?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Beria: thats an openoffice.org repo
[14:02] <ruby_on_tails> ikonia: how can I open it from the terminal ?
[14:02] <iwan> hiii
[14:03] <Beria> ActionParsnip: Thanks, tel me try, and i said something soon
[14:03] <ikonia> Koterpillar: not sure, certainly upon login
[14:03] <ikonia> ruby_on_tails: just installing it myself for you
[14:04] <ruby_on_tails> oh thanks ikonia :">
[14:04] <ikonia> Koterpillar: once a day
[14:04] <ikonia> Koterpillar: /etc/cron.daily/apt
[14:05] <lolmac> hi
[14:06] <lolmac> i can't seem to connect to the internet using my adsl bridge
[14:06] <Burky> yo
[14:06] <ruby_on_tails> yo
[14:06] <lolmac> when i created and activated an adsl connection it works perfectly
[14:06] <ikonia> ruby_on_tails: httrack is the command line interface
[14:06] <younger2> hi, i run tcpdump on eth0 of MTU 1500, but i saw a lot of TCP packets much bigger than 1500. how could that be possible?
[14:06] <lolmac> except for the fact that it doesn't support my network
[14:07] <lolmac> or i use the network connection etho
[14:07] <lolmac> or the adsl
[14:07] <lolmac> can't i use them both?
[14:07] <ruby_on_tails> nooooooooooooo :(
[14:07] <ruby_on_tails> the site shows screenshots/images
[14:07] <ikonia> ruby_on_tails: webhttrack is the gui
[14:07] <ruby_on_tails> :|
[14:07] <ikonia> ruby_on_tails: you're not reading the site, it's on the first page it explains the different
[14:07] <ruby_on_tails> :[
[14:07] <ruby_on_tails> shorry
[14:07] <ikonia> ruby_on_tails: the gui pictures are also of the windows application
[14:08] <Koterpillar> younger2, TCP does not have packets. Even if you meant IP packets, they get (re)assembled by the IP stack
[14:08] <younger2> Koterpillar: i know tcp is stream, but tcpdump should show the fragmentations
[14:08] <malcolm> hi
[14:08] <Kiitos> hi
[14:09] <grawity> younger2: aren't they reassembled _before_ reaching tcpdump?
[14:09] <Guest58287> when i start a game in ubuntu it goes into window mode 7min later and turns bright how do i fix that
[14:09] <Koterpillar> that's what I meant
[14:09] <Koterpillar> Guest58287, which game?
[14:10] <younger2> grawity, Koterpillar: i am not sure. Tcpdump behaves differently on different systems
[14:10] <KFJ> I still get this buzzing sound after muting the capture in alsa mixer :(
[14:10] <younger2> grawity, Koterpillar: i have quite much experience using tcpdump and wireshark, but i have never seen this before
[14:11] <mnaines> KFJ: Is the Mic Boost enabled?
[14:11] <younger2> it seems to me that the fragmentations are offloaded in the ethernet driver
[14:11] <KFJ> Nope, disabled.
[14:12] <younger2> since i am troubleshooting network issues, i want to have the offloading disabled
[14:12] <mnaines> KFJ, maybe the mic is too close to the speakers?
[14:12] <Malcolm_26> open arena and nexuiz go out of fullscreem amd turnbright and i cant move how do i fix that?
[14:12] <younger2> so I see the real traffic on the wire
[14:12] <younger2> anyone knows how can that be done?
[14:14] <KFJ> I don't know if this has an inbuilt mic or not
[14:15] <P3X-018> What does the Intel Debugger GUI require to run on ubuntu. I have JAVA, but it shots down right after the GUI shows up.
[14:16] <jpvdb> I have some problems with synchronisation of todos between evolution and wm5. Contacts and calendar no problem!
[14:16] <KFJ> How do I disable the mic?
[14:16] <KFJ> As I have no use for it whatsoever
[14:16] <aquarius> I have an Ubuntu jaunty machine which is turned on all the time, and has wireless network. Sometimes the wireless network works, sometimes it doesn't; the machine stops being pingable from the outside. Using the machine to connect to somewhere else always seems to wake the wireless up. How would I go about diagnosing the problem?
[14:17] <Hodapp> aquarius: anything in dmesg?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> aquarius: when the wifi drops, run dmesg | tail
[14:18] <aquarius> Hodapp: lots of stuff like [42948.897498] wlan0: RX ReassocResp from 00:21:29:83:44:8f (capab=0x411 status=0 aid=1)
[14:19] <Hodapp> aquarius: have you tried searching these error messages?
[14:19] <aquarius> Hodapp, it looks a bit like the wireless access point says "you have to reconnect now!" every so often, and sometimes the Ubuntu box reconnects and sometimes it doesn't.
[14:19] <Hodapp> hmm
[14:19] <arcadi> hola
[14:20] <farlig> är det nån som vet var man kan hitta inställningarna till google chrome? finns ingen .google-chrome i /home.
[14:20] <aquarius> Hodapp, yep, of course. I didn't find anything hugely useful -- my problem here is that I'm not really sure where to start investigating the problem. I'm crap at hardware stuff. :)
[14:20] <farlig> oh sorry
[14:20] <AnirbanHazra> what is the syntax to install php graphical libraries GD in hardy ?
[14:20] <insmod> how does google do street view ?
[14:20] <insmod> crazy
[14:20] <LjL> and offtopic
[14:20] <farlig> does anyone know where to find the preference folder for google chrome. can't find a "." folder in /home/
[14:21] <aquarius> Hodapp, I've been tempted to just do "ping google.com" in a VC on the machine, to keep the network up ;)
[14:21] <Hodapp> aquarius: eh, that or just ping the router or something
[14:21] <vavar> how can i tell which network interface should be used preferably?
addon
[14:21] <aquarius> farlig, should be in ~/.config/chromium or similar.
[14:22] <aquarius> Hodapp, yeah, but it's, er, something of a bodge ;)
[14:22] <farlig> thx
[14:22] <LjL> i do have a ~/.chromium actually.
[14:22] <Hodapp> aquarius: So?
[14:22] <LjL> ah nevermind, it's something else, it's indeed ~/.config/chromium
[14:22] <aquarius> Hodapp, I feel guilty about that sort of thing, and if it's evidence of a deeper problem I'd like to find out what it is so I can report a bug on it, since my dad doesn't know about pinging the router to keep the network awake :P
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> there are keep alive pinging programs out
[14:23] <aquarius> AnirbanHazra, search in synaptic for "gd"; there should be a php library that comes up in the search
i use to do that in a older computer in the run level
[14:24] <AnirbanHazra> aquarius:  I am on a server edition and only hav shell :(
[14:24] <KFJ> Is there any way for me to just turn off the built in mic?
[14:24] <ikonia> AnirbanHazra: apt-cache search
[14:24] <quidnunc> Can I use the curses interface to resolve some dependency conflicts manually when trying to do a sudo aptitude upgrade>
[14:24] <geirha> !info php5-gd hardy > AnirbanHazra
[14:24] <quidnunc> >
[14:24] <quidnunc> ?
[14:24] <aquarius> AnirbanHazra, then "apt-cache search php gd"
[14:25] <Willex> will it screw up ubuntu if I have seperate home and / partitions and I only reinstall / partition?
[14:25] <LjL> Willex: no.
[14:25] <lolmac> anyone know how to configure an adsl connection bridge in ubuntu?
[14:25] <LjL> Willex: that's actually one of the top reasons to have a separate home partition
no that is why they have partitions
[14:25] <Malcolm_26> how do i make my microphone louder on ubuntu?
[14:26] <younger2> grawity, Koterpillar: the problem i had is most likely due to "generic segment offload". check ethtool manual for gso
mixer app
[14:26] <Willex> so no "can't access this" "can't read this" if I try to for example listen to some music from that old home partition?
[14:26] <Malcolm_26> whats mixer app
what everone you use
what ever one you use
[14:26] <aquarius> Malcolm_26, right-click on the volume icon in the notification area (the one that looks like a loudspeaker and changes when you change volume) and choose "Sound Preferences"
[14:27] <LjL> Willex: well yes, you may have to fix permissions for sure. actually, not even necessarily, but you'll at least have to explicitly point your main user to the old home. is that a problem?
[14:27] <ruby_on_tails> I pressed my num lock button some times and now its controlling my mouse instead of typing numbers
[14:27] <Malcolm_26> ok
[14:27] <Willex> depends. is that much of a hassle?
[14:27] <ruby_on_tails> I want it back to num mode, how can I do that ?
 chmod a+wr
[14:28] <afeijo> I installed a new virtual machine (virtualbox) with ubuntu server to be my web server to develop php pages.  But it got a weird IP and subnet.  I changed to be static IP, static numbers, but it still dont see my host and vice versa.  Internet works in the VM.  What else can I do?
[14:28] <LjL> Willex: not really. how much hassle is typing "sudo chown username:username /home/username"?
[14:28] <Willex> okay
[14:29] <aquarius> LjL, chown -R, no? :)
[14:29] <Willex> thanks
[14:29] <lolmac> does anyone know what bridge is?
[14:29] <lolmac> O.o
[14:29] <mo0nykit> afeijo:  In your VM settings, are you using a NAT adapter?
[14:29] <LjL> aquarius: yes
[14:29] <Boohbah> lolmac: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_bridge
[14:30] <LjL> insmod: don't suggest things like that, home should not be all-writable :(
[14:30] <lolmac> Boohbah
[14:30] <afeijo> mo0nykit: yes
[14:30] <Guest10723> how to download and set the animated wallpapers using compiz
[14:30] <Boohbah> lolmac:
[14:30] <lolmac> i can't seem to connect to my network and adsl at the same time
[14:30] <lolmac> ubuntu network options have an wired connection and an adsl connection
[14:30] <Boohbah> lolmac: have you enabled ipv4 forwarding in your kernel?
[14:30] <lolmac> but i can only choose one at a time
[14:31] <mo0nykit> afeijo: change it to a Bridged Adapter. It should make your VM's NIC look like it is just another computer in the LAN (same subnet as your host)
[14:31] <lolmac> the adsl works fine
[14:31] <Boohbah> lolmac: are you packets going between networks?
[14:31] <lolmac> i have a adsl bridge
[14:31] <lolmac> no
[14:31] <lolmac> Boohbah
[14:31] <FloodBot3> lolmac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:31] <afeijo> I'll try now
[14:31] <Boohbah> lolmac: i don't have experience with ADSL modems so i can't be of much help, sorry :(
[14:31] <lolmac> theres an network connection that comes with ubuntu, that works with my netork, but i can't use the internet on it
[14:31] <lolmac> so i created an adsl connection
[14:31] <Boohbah> lolmac: what is your internet gateway? ADSL?
[14:31] <emmgold> and
[14:31] <lolmac> but when i enable the adsl connection the wired connection disables it self
[14:32] <lolmac> Boohbah
[14:32] <lolmac> yes
[14:32] <lolmac> adsl
[14:32] <lolmac> Boohbah
[14:32] <lolmac> its not the modem
[14:32] <lolmac> its ubuntu
[14:32] <Boohbah> lolmac: is the ADSL hooked up to USB directly to your box or is there a router in between?
[14:32] <lolmac> i don't know how to use adsl + netork at the same time
[14:32] <lolmac> Boohbah
[14:32] <lolmac> there's a router in between
[14:33] <lolmac> i connect this pc on a ethernet wireless hub
[14:33] <lolmac> and then the hub to the modem
[14:33] <lolmac> it works fine in windows
[14:33] <lolmac> there's an network connection
[14:33] <oskie> I'm testing ubuntu 9.10 on a thinkpad t400, and during the latest update/ATI proprietary video driver installation it will no longer boot in X... it just goes text mode and the screen (login prompt etc) flickers extremely, and text input it slow
[14:33] <yva> hello, do somebody knows how to increase the timeout before a server reset a ssh connection?
[14:33] <lolmac> and an adsl connection
[14:33] <afeijo> mo0nykit: thanks !!!
[14:33] <Boohbah> lolmac: ok, then you don't want to setup an ADSL interface in ubuntu
[14:33] <Malcolm_26> THATS WHATS UP!
[14:33] <lolmac> but i have to connect
[14:34] <lolmac> my adsl is bridge
[14:34] <stwange> hi, I'm trying to get Vodafone Mobile Broadband working with a HSDPA USB Stick K3565-Z. I've tried installing the .deb at https://forge.betavine.net/frs/download.php/457/vodafone-mobile-connect_2.00.00- 1_all.deb and it installs, but all the program seems to do is kill nm-applet, say "Starting Vodafone Mobile Broadband" then die
[14:34] <grawity> yva: OpenSSH doesn't have any timeout set by default... check /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[14:34] <lolmac> just the network itself
[14:34] <shaky> ciao a tutti
[14:34] <shaky> ho un problema
[14:34] <lolmac> doesn't work the internet
[14:34] <Boohbah> lolmac: you only want to have a local network interface, set it up to get a local dhcp IP address from your router.
[14:34] <shaky> mi potete aiutare?
[14:34] <yva> grawity> on the server or on my machine?
[14:34] <FiremanEd> !it | shaky
[14:34] <Boohbah> lolmac: no ADSL interface needed in ubuntu for your setup
[14:34] <grawity> yva: On the server.
[14:35] <lolmac> booo
[14:35] <lolmac> Boohbah
[14:35] <mo0nykit> afeijo: np :)
[14:35] <Boohbah> lolmac:
[14:35] <lolmac> but how can i use the internet?
[14:35] <lolmac> just with the wired connection
[14:35] <aaron11> !flood | lolmac
[14:35] <Boohbah> lolmac: your router will do NAT and translate the packets. also, try to type on one line :)
[14:35] <yva> grawity> can we chat on private?
[14:35] <Mka> stwange: which ubuntu version are you using?
[14:36] <grawity> yva: Why not here?
[14:36] <stwange> Mka, 9.04
[14:36] <yva> grawity> noisy :p but ok
[14:36] <yva> grawity> I checked the etc/ssh/ssh_config file, everything is commented
[14:36] <grawity> yva: sshd_config, not ssh_config.
[14:37] <lolmac> Boohbah: okay, i will type in one line, but i have to use that pppoeconf of terminal to the internet work?
[14:37] <x_> hello
[14:37] <Mka> stwange: didnt ubuntu detect your stick automatically on first insert? didnt you get a pop up window?
[14:37] <x_> @ all
[14:37] <yva> grawity> permission denied
[14:37] <stwange> Mka no
[14:37] <gl1d3r> can anyone give me a link to the linux powerpc mac port
[14:37] <grawity> yva: You're not allowed to read sshd_config?
[14:37] <yva> grawity> I got a message as  Connection reset by peer
[14:37] <sinein> Hi - I was fidling around with my 4GB USB drive in Ubuntu and copied an image into unallocated space mesing up the file system. Now my USB is 500MB in size, is there a way to return its true size?
[14:37] <yva> grawity> no
[14:37] <Mka> stwange: ok, did you try wvdial?
[14:37] <yva> grawity> more /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[14:37] <yva> /etc/ssh/sshd_config: Permission denied
[14:38] <stwange> no Mka I'll try googling it now
[14:38] <x_> i've got a problem with my ntfs file system. in ubuntu i can work with it as usual but in vista the file system apears as raw filesystem and it is unredable!
[14:38] <Boohbah> lolmac: no, not if you have a standard router. you will just need to get an IP address from DHCP from your router. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[14:38] <grawity> yva: Then, complain to the paranoid sysadmin :|
[14:38] <Boohbah> yva: sudo vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[14:38] <yva> grawity> trying to but it's sunday
[14:38] <lolmac> Boohbah: but my connection is bridge
[14:38] <Boohbah> grawity: not paranoid sysadmin, but default permissions
[14:38] <Boohbah> lolmac: why?
[14:39] <gl1d3r> yva: really? for me its saturday
[14:39] <Boohbah> lolmac: you said there was nothing between you and the router, no?
[14:39] <Mka> gl1d3r: can you rephrase your question?
[14:39] <yva> gl1d3r> saterday sorry :p tired
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> x_:  you might want toi ask in #windows on how to properly 'fix' a ntfs.. I would suggest backing up anything iporntant on it..
[14:39] <grawity> Boohbah: The default permissions for /etc/ssh/sshd_config are 644, for all Linux distros I've used.
[14:40] <stwange> Mka, gives me --> Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
[14:40] <gl1d3r> mika: Where can I download the powerpc community port?
[14:40] <Boohbah> grawity: yes, but i have a feeling yva is not accessing the file with sudo or root.
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> !ppc
[14:40] <yva> grawity> but by default there's no timeout set up?
[14:40] <azuro> hi all
[14:40] <Razwer> hi there, can anyone assist me with getting mysql server installed on jaunty ? for some reason the root password i create is not accepted
[14:40] <yva> Boohbah> no I'm just a user, on saterday
[14:40] <HoleSystem> .irc.hackthissite.org +7000
[14:40] <Boohbah> yva: do you have root permissions on the machine? otherwise you will need to contact your administrator
[14:41] <yva> Boohbah> no I don't
[14:41] <kiran> how to set animated wallppaers in compiz
[14:41] <grawity> Boohbah: So what? 0644 gives everyone the 'read' permission. So it's most definitely _not_ defaults that are there.
[14:41] <yva> But I wanted to check where the timeout was
[14:41] <icehawk78> Is there any way to make PuTTY send a numpad equivalent instead of an escape code when using the arrow keys?
[14:41] <Boohbah> grawity: yes
[14:41] <azuro>  I have a  problme with a  sound  on lapstop acer aspire 6920g  im a  amater with linux :-( is somebody here to help me please
did i mis a day
[14:42] <yva> grawity, Boohbah > the server is probably a gentoo
[14:42] <gl1d3r> thank you, ubuntu bot
[14:42] <Mka> stawge: my ubuntu 9.04 autodetected my 3G samsung fone so I'vent touched wdial since intrepid.
[14:42] <Mka> stawnge: my ubuntu 9.04 autodetected my 3G samsung fone so I'vent touched wdial since intrepid.
[14:42] <Guest94582> hello how install  beryl
[14:42] <Boohbah> Razwer: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0
[14:43] <yva> grawity> -rw------- 1 root root   2819 Jan  1  2009 sshd_config
[14:43] <Mka> stawnge: you only have to change the /etc/wvdial.conf file
[14:43] <Boohbah> Guest94582: sudo apt-get install compiz
[14:43] <Boohbah> Guest94582: beryl is compiz-fusion
[14:43] <Boohbah> !compiz | Guest94582
to old use compiz
[14:44] <Boohbah> yva: as in my gentoo :)
[14:45] <FiremanEd> gl1d3r: There is a channel for Powerpc users as well, #ubuntu-powerpc
[14:45] <lolmac> Boohbah: a ethernet cable gets out of my pc and enters an wireless router, that enters the modem, that is set to bridge to connect to the internet (i have to create an connection with username and password, it does not connect automatically)
[14:45] <Boohbah> yva: do you need to edit the config? what are you trying to do?
[14:45] <gl1d3r> firemaned: thanks. that is really useful
[14:45] <Mka> stawnge: this is the copy my wvdial on the intrepid partition: http://pastebin.com/f1820b7c8
[14:45] <Boohbah> lolmac: you don't need a bridge interface in ubuntu then, the router handles that. you only need a standard dhcp interface which is setup out of the box.
[14:45] <stwange> Mka, if it can't find /dev/modem will it work?
[14:46] <lolmac> Boohbah
[14:46] <Boohbah> lolmac: sorry i didn't read the last part. do you have to authenticate the connection from your PC? if so i don't know how to do it
[14:46] <lolmac> but my router doesn't handle that
[14:46] <Mka> stawnge: to me the modem is /dev/ttyACM0 not /dev/modem
[14:46] <Boohbah> lolmac: i see. maybe someone else knows more about authenticating to bridged ADSL interfaces.
[14:47] <lolmac> yes
[14:48] <azuro> does anybody knows how fix a sound on acer aspire  6920?
[14:48] <wWales> when interacting with a flash object on a webpage in firefox i loose the ability to use firefox  hotkeys, is there a way to leave the flashobject without having to mouseclick outside the object?
[14:49] <alabd> Good day everyone ,what does 41.1% and 500.3 mean in powerTOP result ? 41.1% (500.3)       <interrupt> : PS/2 keyboard/mouse/touchpad
[14:49] <Mka> azuro: please be specific
[14:50] <yva> Boohbah> trying to see where the problem is
[14:50] <yva> so that I can directly ask the sys admin to do that
[14:50] <azuro> a just  instal a ubuntu a  a have not  sound
[14:50] <azuro>   no  mp3 no system sound nothing
[14:51] <Mka> azuro: you cannot play mp3's from a clean ubuntu install
[14:51] <medoo> السلام عليكم
[14:52] <Guest94582> how to set an animated wallpaper
[14:52] <azuro> exacly
[14:52] <Mka> azuro: I am amazed your machine cannot play system sound on login, though
[14:53] <azuro> cant    ther is not  sound as i sey   nothig  et all
[14:53] <legio> wow,awesome spelling..
[14:53] <azuro> sorry
[14:54] <legio> ^_^
[14:54] <legio> np
[14:54] <legio> just practice a bit..
[14:54] <azuro> i will
[14:54] <azuro> :-0
[14:55] <legio> so,  what problem do you have?
[14:55] <Guest94582> hello how to set animated wallppaers
[14:55] <azuro> no sound
[14:56] <azuro> and  this is main first time  with linux
[14:56] <legio> what type is your sound card?
[14:56] <azuro> uf
[14:57] <legio> model?
[14:57] <azuro> can i found that on teminal?
[14:58] <samuel> greetings.. what is the better software to use apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng?
[14:58] <alabd> any opinion
[14:58] <samuel> i want to manage/cache packages for my whole organization - 48 computers
[14:58] <Mka> azuro: try this on terminal and tell me if you are hearing no sound: "totem /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/desktop-login.ogg"
[14:58] <legio> azuro try this>>>"cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec"
[14:59] <azuro> mka  no sound
[14:59] <bastidrazor> azuro: lspci | grep Audio  :that command will tell you your sound card
[15:00] <Mka> azuro: did you get any error in terminal?
[15:00] <azuro> no error
[15:00] <Mka> azuro: ensure you did not mute your volume :)
[15:01] <legio> here is a guide fr the ubuntu forum>>> "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto"
[15:01] <azuro> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[15:01] <azuro> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[15:01] <azuro> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[15:01] <FloodBot3> azuro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:01] <BlouBlou> !paste > azuro
[15:01] <aquarius> samuel, there are quite a few ways of doing that -- Launchpad, apt-mirror, and so on
[15:02] <aquarius> samuel, er, Landscape, not Launchpad :)
[15:02] <Mka> BlouBlou: please use a pipe | not a redirect > next time
[15:02] <azuro> my sound  car is :  Intel Corporation 82801h (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[15:03] <BlouBlou> Mka: ok sorry
[15:03] <samuel> aquarius, thank you looking at landscape..  apt-mirror would be overkill...
[15:03] <legio> check the link>>>"https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto"
[15:04] <samuel> aquarius, i want to save bandwidth.. and also allow other machines to update that from the network with out needing an internet link for some of them
[15:04] <aquarius> samuel, you might find #ubuntu-server have some more detailed suggestions than #ubuntu
[15:05] <musikgoat> samuel: apt-cacher?
[15:05] <samuel> thank you...
[15:05] <musikgoat> samuel: are the machines the same architecture?
[15:05] <musikgoat> i.e. x86?
[15:05] <aquarius> musikgoat, aha, apt-cacher, that's what I meant, not apt-mirror ;)
[15:05] <samuel> yes.. i did see apt-cacher musikgoat, but theres also apt-cacher-ng so i didnt know which to choose?
[15:06] <musikgoat> !file ap-cacher
[15:06] <samuel> its same architecture
[15:06] <musikgoat> !file apt-cacher
[15:06] <musikgoat> hmm, those aren't in the repos??
[15:06] <samuel> though there maybe be a not later on...
[15:06] <BlouBlou> musikgoat: try !info <packet>
[15:07] <musikgoat> !info apt-cacher
[15:07] <samuel> musikgoat, apt-cacher and apt-cacher-ng are both in the repos
[15:07] <dassouki> i've been on linux for 10 years and can't use emacs of vim .. am i disgrace to you guys
[15:07] <musikgoat> !info apt-cacher-ng
[15:07] <aquarius> dassouki, hell no. I use gedit for everything.
[15:08] <musikgoat> samuel: I'm not sure if one or the other is not being actively developed, but otherwise, try things out and see what works best
[15:11] <ubuntu> Hi all
[15:11] <Gusan0r> sorry for the question, but, exisist any channel support of wireshark ? sorry for my english
[15:11] <cihat> i need a german link from this chat ?
[15:11] <linuxn-eo> I'm using a netbook with hardy, and the menus I've been launching apps from have all disappeared; how do I get them back?
[15:12] <Dennis> #deluge
[15:12] <legend2440> Gusan0r: channel  #wireshark
[15:12] <kaja> Hi, can somebody help me with xorg? I have Nvidia GeForce 8600M and using external LCD with full HD resolution, but the display is choppy. Running 9.10
[15:12] <Dennis> channel #deluge
[15:12] <BlouBlou> Dennis: please do not spam
[15:13] <Gusan0r> legend2440, thanks =)
[15:13] <Dennis> Sorry bout that, new to irc.. :)
[15:13] <cihat> i need a german link to this chat
[15:14] <Mka> goodbye everyone, I gotta go
[15:15] <musikgoat> DennisDutchy: did you figure out how to get there?  /join #channel?
[15:15] <DennisDutchy> thanks for the tip, no i didnt yet.. :)
[15:15] <DennisDutchy> thanks
[15:16] <linuxn-eo> ah, found it - I needed to run ume-launcher; it was the first time I need to do that by hand or that it's disappeared
[15:18] <DennisDutchy> Is there an easy solution to have my torrents downloaded directly to my nas drive?
[15:19] <SeySayux> Hi, what's that feeling called after you tried a new Ubuntu beta again?
[15:20] <DennisDutchy> A regular High? ;)
[15:20] <lucky__> I am Lucky. Please help me. I accidentally installed the Dwell. even though i remove the dwell by clicking the on the panel and removing it .When i select any icon on the panel the mouse icon is loading in orange color and then it is turning into + sign when i move the mouse cursor , it is dragging the icon to the desktop. please help to resolve the issue.
[15:21] <stwange> does anyone know the APN for 3 mobile broadband australia on contract?
[15:23] <Dykam> I need a Wifi dongle, can't find any lists of working stuff. What is recommened? Prefer usb
[15:24] <geboy> i'm using jaunty server on vm 6.5 with webmin installed. why does my swap never been used? it always indicated 0 mB usage
[15:24] <DennisDutchy> Am i doing something wrong or is everybody just quit in here?
[15:24] <geboy> what did you do, dennis?
[15:26] <geboy> i'm using jaunty server on vm 6.5 with webmin installed. why does my swap never been used? it always indicated 0 mB usage
[15:27] <kaja> geboy: be happy
[15:27] <geboy> what?
[15:27] <ant0xa> hi. my kubuntu installation failed (bad disc) and can't log on in windows, just black screen with. what can i do to get in windows?
[15:27] <geboy> why should i be happy?
[15:28] <ant0xa> wuth grub*
[15:28] <Guest68182> .
[15:28] <kaja> geboy: swap is used if you are out of memory, or?
[15:29] <geboy> kaja: im having squid3 inside. shouldn't it eat up swap space
[15:29] <IdleOne> ant0xa: you need to use a windows disc and fixmbr or you can use a ubuntu livecd and re-install grub. see !fixgrub
[15:29] <ant0xa> !fixgrub
[15:29] <geboy> yes. i believe it only be used when i'm out of memory
[15:30] <kaja> geboy: so where is the problem?
[15:30] <alokito> is ubuntu-netbook-remix installed as a separate session?
[15:30] <ant0xa> i don't have windows or another ubuntu disc, that's the problem.
[15:30] <alokito> what will sudo apt-get install ubuntu-netbook-remix do?
[15:30] <juninhu> Hello
[15:30] <Boohbah> geboy: the kernel should be swapping unused memory even when it's not full. disk cache.
[15:30] <geboy> but with my other squid box using ubuntu 8.04 the same exact space and partition, and configuration it keeps saying around 10% usage of swap space
[15:31] <Boohbah> geboy: free -m |grep cache
[15:31] <Boohbah> geboy: is this running on hardware or a virtual machine?
[15:31] <IdleOne> ant0xa: can you go to a friends house and download/burn the ubuntu or Kubuntu liveCD?
[15:31] <juninhu> My compiz are bugging. =( When some program is in fullscreen. Someone can help me?
[15:31] <geboy> boohbah:thisone running on vm
[15:31] <Boohbah> geboy: what vm? Xen, VZ, VMware?
[15:32] <geboy> boohbah: vmware 6.5
[15:32] <Rainman1> what kernel ubuntu have ?
[15:32] <Boohbah> Rainman1: depends on version.
[15:32] <Rainman1> which version i mean
[15:32] <Rainman1> of kernel
[15:33] <Boohbah> Rainman1: which version of ubuntu? karmic has 2.6.31
[15:33] <juninhu> =(
[15:33] <geboy> boohbah: it shows buffers/cache used 148 free 349 when i run the command you gave me
[15:33] <samuel> http://192.168.1.71/torrents/index.php
[15:33] <samuel> but when the connectin dies i have to manually bring it up again with "pon dsl-provider" how can i auto mate this process..
[15:33] <samuel> i remember pppd use to have a dial-on demand option, then there was also diald
[15:34] <mae123> to connect from one computer to another, on the another computer should i install rsh-client or rsh-server, although i think server
[15:34] <Rainman1> Boohbah: actual ubuntu not beta or alpha or whatever
[15:34] <stwange_> hey, I disabled wireless networking by right clicking on NetworkManager, and now the option to enable it is greyed out. Can anyone help?
[15:34] <Boohbah> Rainman1: karmic will be released in a couple weeks.
[15:34] <Boohbah> geboy: i am not too familiar with vmware and its memory management, sorry.
[15:34] <mae123> stwange_: wait a little bit, or enable your wifi card by pressing your key to enable the wifi
[15:34] <Rainman1> Boohbah: Jaunty kernel ?
[15:35] <stwange_> ah yeah it came back mae123 :) thanks - is this usual?
[15:35] <mae123> Rainman1: to connect to distant machine, on that machine i should install rsh-server right?
[15:35] <Dykam> I need a Wifi dongle, can't find any lists of working stuff. What is recommened?
[15:35] <blankhead> someone give me a good link that can teach me how to install/reinstall ubuntu where my data such as pics, music are not touched and i could reinstall ubuntu
[15:35] <cribozai_> mae123: You should probably use ssh instead of rsh. But if you want to use rsh you need to install rsh server
[15:35] <Boohbah> Rainman1: 2.6.30 revision, i believe.
[15:35] <juninhu> Someone can solve my compiz problem?
[15:35] <geboy> boohbah: i'm just curious was there something wrong with my installation or not.
[15:35] <bazhang> !home | blankhead
[15:35] <masquerade> juninhu: whats the problem again?
[15:35] <mae123> stwange_: well yes, it takes time till the adapter is started again, and reconized by the kernel
[15:36] <mae123> cribozai_: thanks
[15:36] <alokito> juninhu, whats your problem?
[15:36] <Boohbah> geboy: again, i wouldn't know since it's vmware. i could help with Xen or Virtuozzo/OpenVZ
[15:36] <alokito> what happens when a program is in fullscreen?
[15:36] <geboy> boohbah:thanks so much
[15:36] <juninhu> alokito: When my Geany is in fullscreen mode the compiz shows my wallpaper
[15:36] <es-web> Is it posible to get drivers ATI mobile X1300 to 9.04?
[15:36] <Boohbah> alokito: the program fills the entire screen.
[15:36] <geboy> anyone knows about vmware here and ubuntu?
[15:36] <masquerade> what could help solving a stuttering sound problem?
[15:37] <alokito> juninhu, whats geany? ive never heard of it :(
[15:37] <juninhu> a Text Editor
[15:37] <alokito> oh
[15:37] <Boohbah> juninhu: try vim.
[15:37] <juninhu> in the truth any program do it
[15:37] <juninhu> the firefox too
[15:37] <alokito> juninhu, is it graphical or cli?
[15:37] <bobo> salve
[15:37] <Boohbah> masquerade: sudo killall pulseaudio
[15:37] <juninhu> alokito: excuse?
[15:38] <masquerade> and what does this get me?
[15:38] <alokito> juninhu, u can try the fusion-icon package, it might fix it
[15:38] <deschutron> Hi does anyone here know how to install Uzbl into Ubuntu Hardy Heron?
[15:38] <juninhu> when the system will show the "Alternate Text" of a object this happen
[15:38] <alokito> juninhu, sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[15:38] <Boohbah> masquerade: kills pulseaudio and eliminates sound server latency
[15:38] <Boohbah> masquerade: it might work...
[15:38] <juninhu> alokito: sure, thanks.
[15:38] <masquerade> Boohbah: pulseaudio wasnt even running :)
[15:38] <Boohbah> masquerade: ok :)
[15:39] <Boohbah> masquerade: what card/driver?
[15:39] <bobo> hi
[15:39] <masquerade> Boohbah: i dont know atm. how to read it out?
[15:39] <Boohbah> !hi | bobo
[15:40] <poi1> How can i find amsn chatlogs?
[15:40] <poi1> the graphic way
[15:40] <bobo> I have issue to connect my PDA to UBUNTU anyone can help?
[15:40] <Boohbah> masquerade: sudo lspci -v |grep -i audio
[15:41] <masquerade> Boohbah: thanks a lot
[15:41] <Boohbah> bobo: what kind of connection are you trying to make?
[15:41] <masquerade> its "nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)"
[15:41] <bobo> USB
[15:41] <Boohbah> masquerade: you can google that to figure out the corect driver. if you have any sound at all, it is probably loaded. you can find it with 'sudo lsmod |grep <your_driver>
[15:42] <masquerade> alright, thanks a lot
[15:42] <strongsoul> help | i installed windows in a partition but it is not getting identified on boot time, this is serious issue am facing now, i dont know how to procee
[15:42] <strongsoul> please help
[15:42] <cihat> hey first of all i am from germany so my englisch is not so good:P
[15:42] <strongsoul> SOS
[15:42] <bobo> ok I'll check
[15:42] <cihat> but maybe you are able to help me;)
[15:42] <bobo> thanks
[15:42] <poi1> I need to find amsn chatlogs?
[15:42] <blankhead> when does 9.10 come out?
[15:43] <bazhang> strongsoul, are you getting grub
[15:43] <Boohbah> poi1: look in ~/.amsn
[15:43] <Boohbah> blankhead: end of the month
[15:43] <bazhang> blankhead, end of the month #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[15:43] <strongsoul> it was overwritten, but i rewrote the grub to get into my ubuntu
[15:43] <poi1> ok thanks
[15:43] <strongsoul> bazhang, ^
[15:43] <blankhead> thanks
[15:43] <strongsoul> bazhang, it was overwritten, but i rewrote the grub to get into my ubuntu
[15:43] <tomtom_> fdghnfg
[15:43] <cihat> if i start my vlc player for playing video ts data there are green an black bugs in the display
[15:43] <tomtom_> jest ktos z polski?
[15:43] <cihat> i think i need na new plugin for this
[15:43] <bazhang> cihat, with compiz on or not
[15:43] <cihat> but which?
[15:44] <bazhang> tomtom_, #ubuntu-pl
[15:44] <LordLord> hi <----- ME
[15:44] <foofish> !pl
[15:44] <strongsoul> bazhang, now i want the boot menu choice with windows, what can i do to get  that
[15:44] <Coeur> quit
[15:44] <cihat> what is compiz?
[15:44] <Coeur> exit
[15:44] <strongsoul> compiz!
[15:44] <LordLord> i need help in configuring my eeepc wifi adapter any one to help
[15:44] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub strongsoul
[15:44] <tomtom_> haw to install TlenLinux in ubuntu????????
[15:44] <bazhang> tomtom_, what is tlenlinux
[15:44] <Boohbah> http://www.tlen.pl
[15:45] <tomtom_> yes
[15:45] <tomtom_> tlen
[15:45] <Boohbah> bazhang: it looks like linux with a windows shell
[15:45] <strongsoul> bazhang, if i do that il get my windows and ubuntu in boot time ???
[15:46] <[UP]XamreX> HI, If someone wanna win IPOD on LOCKERZ just PM me :)
[15:46] <bazhang> strongsoul, you will have a choice
[15:46] <warddr> hello, does anyone have an idea how to burn and m4a-file to an audio cd?
[15:46] <poi1> i can find ~/.amsn from terminal but i would like to find it the graphic way
[15:46] <bazhang> [UP]XamreX, no advertising here.
[15:46] <strongsoul> bazhang, thank you
[15:46] <Boohbah> poi1: you will have to set your file manager to find hidden directories
[15:46] <strongsoul> il be back with result
[15:47] <poi1> do i right klick?
[15:47] <Boohbah> poi1: probably in preferences, i don't know as i don't have GNOME, are you using GNOME?
[15:47] <poi1> ubuntu 8.04
[15:48] <masquerade> how to copy a cd to an .iso file?
[15:48] <Boohbah> masquerade: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/cdimg1.iso
[15:49] <poi1> any clue how to?
[15:49] <masquerade> Boohbah: thanks, how do i get the right path for my drive?
[15:50] <Boohbah> poi1: View->Show Hidden Files
[15:50] <aquarius> masquerade, right-click on the disc icon on your desktop and say "Copy disc"
[15:50] <masquerade> aquarius: lol sure, but brasero lets me only burn/copy it to a .toc
[15:50] <masquerade> or .raw
[15:50] <dj_> I'm kinda new to this all and I installed ubuntu server edition and it came with grub 1.5 preinstalled and I was wondering how to change the boot order?
[15:50] <ecolitan> what is the difference between cron and anacron?
[15:51] <poi1> thanks its working now :)
[15:51] <aquarius> masquerade, ah, it's different in karmic ;)
[15:51] <masquerade> aquarius: :)
[15:51] <Boohbah> masquerade: if the CD is mounted, you can find the path with 'mount'. make sure to umount it before running dd.
[15:52] <dj_> can someone help?
[15:52] <Boohbah> dj_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:53] <dj_> it says unreconized command
[15:53] <guest_4343> What is the password of root? I didn't enter anything!
[15:53] <Boohbah> dj_: you will want to replace edit with your editor of choice. 'gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[15:53] <Edo> Hello, I'm new here to the support channel and I'm a little lost trying to find the proper channel for network issues
[15:53] <Boohbah> !root | guest_4343
[15:53] <Edo> could you point me in the right direction
[15:54] <Boohbah> Edo: if you are using a recent desktop edition of ubuntu, this is it
[15:54] <xangua> aaah, here¿
[15:54] <masquerade> Boohbah: what should i search for? i dont see anything that i could associate with a drive
[15:54] <masquerade> (cd drive)
[15:54] <guest_4343> It asks for one when installing the printer
[15:54] <Edo> excellent
[15:54] <Boohbah> masquerade: maybe hdc or sdc ...
[15:54] <masquerade> nope, nothing
[15:54] <Boohbah> masquerade: can you pastebin the output of 'mount' ?
[15:54] <Edo> So I should just fire away with my Q?
[15:54] <masquerade> sure, one second
[15:55] <masquerade> Edo yes
[15:55] <Edo> Alrighty
[15:55] <Boohbah> masquerade: err, what kind of cd is it? if audio, then you can't mount it
[15:55] <masquerade> Boohbah: its audio :)
[15:56] <masquerade> so i also cant burn it to an iso file?
[15:56] <guest_4343> Boohbah, it asks for root password when I try to install printer!
[15:56] <Boohbah> masquerade: hmm... can you put in a different cdrom just to find the drive? i don't have a cdrom here in my ubuntu netbook to test for myself. :)
[15:56] <dj_> I've tried that command and I get the same thing, error 27 unreconized command.... when you boot up to the grub list and hit "c" for the comman prompt that's where I'm at now, should I be inputting these from a different termanal?
[15:56] <masquerade> Boohbah: i already tried and the output was the same
[15:56] <Boohbah> masquerade: even a data CD?
[15:56] <funkyHat> guest_4343: are you following some instructions for installing the printer?
[15:56] <masquerade> Boohbah: nope
[15:57] <Boohbah> masquerade: should be auto-mounted
[15:57] <guest_4343> funkyHat, Well, I connected it and System->Administrator->Printers and NEW
[15:57] <Edo> I recently installed a 2nd nic and would like to use a crossover to my XP. Currently I have network manager disabled, this was done for shorewall's firewall, hence I manually configured the interfaces config file.
[15:58] <funkyHat> guest_4343: have you trid entering your own password?
[15:58] <Boohbah> masquerade: sorry i couldn't help :( i have to leave now. but once you find out the right drive that dd command should work. :)
[15:58] <masquerade> Boohbah: alright, thanks
[15:58] <nikolaj> I have ubuntu 9.04 installed and for some reason it is only recognising half that amount of RAM i actually have within my laptop, any ideas?
[15:58] <Edo> I've check the typical sources but have come up empty handed
[15:58] <masquerade> sound-juicer:  "Error starting ripping pipeline" - what could this mean?
[15:58] <guest_4343> funkyHat, Yeah, it wont accept
[15:58] <Edo> ie, google. TLDP, ubuntu forums/docs etc.
[15:58] <funkyHat> nikolaj: how much ram do you have?
[15:58] <nikolaj> 2GB
[15:59] <nikolaj> and the system shows 1 i think
[15:59] <eguesttest> hello guys,hope all is cool
[15:59] <ruby_on_tails> I empowered my num pads to control my mouse, how do I revert it ?
[15:59] <eguesttest> i wa installing postgres 82 and i ran ./configure then
[15:59] <masquerade> ruby_on_tails: num lock? :)
[15:59] <dj_> did anyone think of what I should do? since the other two don't work..
[15:59] <eguesttest> i rn make but i get an error saying  ./configure hasnt ben run although i ran it
[15:59] <nikolaj> funkyHat: my system monitor shows 1002.5 mb
[15:59] <Edo> The XP system will not need to run internet through the linux box, this crossover is simply for file sharing
[16:00] <Willex> hi, I tried "sudo chown username:username /home/username/ to get my old home partition working as my current home but there isn't any noticeable change?
[16:00] <Edo> a closed network
[16:00] <funkyHat> eguesttest: you should install postgres using apt, not from source
[16:00] <ruby_on_tails> masquerade: yea I used num lock  but now pressing it doesn't revert the thing
[16:00] <nikolaj> whereas when I had xp installed it had 2GB or RAM
[16:01] <eguesttest> i am installing a prorma which requires that i install it from source
[16:01] <funkyHat> nikolaj: you haven't taken the memory out and put it back in again at any point have you?
[16:01] <eguesttest> what do  think is the source
[16:01] <eguesttest> of the problem
[16:01] <Edo> I'm trying to configure the second nic to communicate with my xp throught eh crossover, but keep failing.
[16:01] <nikolaj> funkyHat: no, simply just installed ubuntu and taken out windows
[16:01] <funkyHat> eguesttest: did you notice any errors when you ran ./configure ?
[16:02] <eguesttest> yes it says
[16:02] <eguesttest> You need to run the 'configure' program first. See the file
[16:02] <eguesttest> although i have already ran configure
[16:02] <eguesttest> this is my configure command
[16:02] <funkyHat> eguesttest: no, when you ran ./configure did you notice any erros?
[16:02] <eguesttest> okay
[16:03] <eguesttest> hold on
[16:03] <legend2440> ruby_on_tails: does pressing  Shift + Num Lock revert it?
[16:03] <eguesttest> i will paste the output of my confiure command
[16:03] <funkyHat> nikolaj: hm. not changed any bios settings, possibly to do with graphics card shared memory?
[16:03] <funkyHat> !paste | eguesttest (in case you didn't know)
[16:03] <masquerade> i try to either read out an audio cd as seperate tracks or copy it entirely to the computer as an .iso. "mount" does not display the drive and sound-juicers gives me the errors "could not open ressource to read" and " Error starting ripping pipeline". any ideas?
[16:04] <eguesttest> i got readline library not found
[16:04] <eguesttest> as the only error i think
[16:04] <eguesttest> could that be the cause
[16:04] <Edo> any ideas?
[16:04] <nikolaj> funkyHat: I'm pretty sure that I haven't changed any settings, it was just a straight install, not sure how to check whether it's shared memory etc
[16:04] <b1shop> any liveCD customization guru's in here?
[16:04] <ruby_on_tails> legend2440: thanks
[16:04] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search readline
[16:04] <jetscreamer> iirc it's a package
[16:05] <Padhu> nikolaj: $ free -m
[16:05] <Padhu> what is the result
[16:06] <funkyHat> eguesttest: could be
[16:06] <nikolaj> Padhu: shall i open another box and paste it in?
[16:06] <RegressLess> How do I get my netbook to use more than half my ram? It always stays under 50% no matter what I run and I could use better performance.
[16:06] <nikolaj> total is 1002, used 986, free 16
[16:06] <eguesttest> this is ht eoutput i got
[16:06] <eguesttest> http://paste.ubuntu.com/290148/
[16:07] <nikolaj> shared 0, buffers 57, cached 342
[16:07] <eguesttest>  i think the readline err is the only eror so ithink i will add without eradline
[16:07] <strongsoul> bazhang, how will i know what to put here rootnoverify (hd0,0)  for windows ?
[16:07] <eguesttest> a  an option in the configuration command
[16:07] <strongsoul> how can i get the windows installed partition
[16:07] <strongsoul> ?
[16:07] <strongsoul> please help
[16:08] <DJ-Nomad> hi all I am trying to figure out a ffmpeg converter
[16:08] <masquerade> you mean how to get the partition name of the one windows is installed on?
[16:08] <funkyHat> eguesttest: or you could install readline
[16:08] <pico> Hello, i'm trying to install the latest ubuntu, via a cd i burned, and i get this error after the initial ubuntu screen: 8042009F. I've tried a couple of cds and i verified the cd for errors. any idea?
[16:08] <masquerade> DJ-Nomad: !ask
[16:08] <funkyHat> eguesttest: what are you installing, that requires postgres to be built from source?
[16:08] <strongsoul> masquerade, i installed xubuntu and then windows , so my grub got corrupted, so i restored my grub to get my files back, and now windows option is not available in the boot list
[16:09] <masquerade> ah damn lol
[16:09] <DJ-Nomad> !ask
[16:09] <Edo> Did I mess up on asking?
[16:09] <masquerade> ugh, i knew how to do this. one second
[16:09] <strongsoul> masquerade, ok
[16:09] <RegressLess> How do I get my netbook to use more than half my ram? It always stays under 50% no matter what I run and I could use better performance.
[16:09] <eguesttest> yes i requires postgres to be built from source  using stow too
[16:10] <dj_> ok so I'm in grub command line and I've tries gedit and that didn't work, any ways I could chnage the boot order
[16:10] <eguesttest> stow takes part in the installation
[16:10] <Edo> Or does no one here know?
[16:10] <Edo> :(
[16:10] <strongsoul> masquerade, you there ?
[16:10] <lolmac> hi, any one knows anything about adsl and dhcp and ubuntu?
[16:10] <funkyHat> strongsoul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[16:10] <nikolaj> any other ideas :)?
[16:10] <DJ-Nomad> I am trying to setup the downloadhelper addon for firefox to convert a video and it says I do not have the ffmpeg converter in usr/bin/ffmpeg
[16:10] <masquerade> strongsoul: yes, just wait one second, oke :)
[16:10] <strongsoul> masquerade, ok
[16:10] <legend2440> pico: is it a Plextor burner?
[16:11] <dj_> no one know?
[16:11] <razor_X> hi all
[16:11] <DJ-Nomad> I have no clue dj
[16:11] <razor_X> sup ActionParsnip
[16:11] <nodie> hi, do I need to format a pendrive in FAT32 to use it to install ubuntu in a netbook?
[16:11] <Edo> dj_ are you just trying to use an editor?
[16:11] <funkyHat> dj_: try nano instead of grub
[16:12] <funkyHat> *instead of gedit
[16:12] <strongsoul> funkyHat, i saw that, i already restored my grub few months back now i need to do the adding windows stanza part alone in menu.lst right ?
[16:12] <dj_> tries nano get the same error 27 unreconized command
[16:12] <funkyHat> strongsoul: yep that's right
[16:12] <strongsoul> so only i asked how can i get this value
[16:12] <strongsoul> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[16:12] <pico> legend2440: no it's a TSSTcorp burner
[16:12] <strongsoul> funkyHat, how can i know which value to give there ?
[16:12] <razor_X> is there a version of quake 3 out there that runs in ubuntu? if so where can i get it?
[16:12] <masquerade> meta track information of an audio cd contains corrupted characters, so i cant read it out with sound-juicer as it is, but i also cant remove the characters. any ideas?
[16:13] <funkyHat> strongsoul: what is the name that ubuntu gives to the partition windows is on?
[16:13] <strongsoul> funkyHat, thats the partition id where installation of windows was done right ?
[16:13] <DJ-Nomad> do I have ffmpeg installed if I have gstreamer plugins for it that i see in package manager ?
[16:13] <strongsoul> funkyHat, yeah how do i know that ?
[16:13] <Hans_Henrik> how can i find out info of my wireless card (its embedded inside the laptop and i dont want to open it up..)
[16:13] <funkyHat> strongsoul: what is its device name( like /dev/hda3 or something)?
[16:13] <dj_> when I boot up I hit c to enter command, and all it reads is grub> then waits for command and all the normal commands I put in are unreconizable
[16:13] <DJ-Nomad> hans google it
[16:13] <funkyHat> strongsoul: the device name of the windows partition, I mean
[16:14] <lolmac> DJ-Nomad:
[16:14] <lolmac> do you know about adsl and dhcp?
[16:14] <bazhang> DJ-Nomad, please dont recommend that here
[16:14] <lolmac> i've installed ubuntu, and i have and bridged modem + router
[16:14] <strongsoul> funkyHat, for that i need to do a fdisk -l in terminal right ?
[16:14] <n8tuser> dj_-> why do you need to hit c when bootin?
[16:14] <lolmac> i access the router ethernetaly
[16:14] <es-web> Hans_Henrik: Google for product name and type like: Acer TM6460
[16:14] <bazhang> Hans_Henrik, lspci if its pci lsusb if that is usb
[16:14] <DJ-Nomad> bazhang,  sorry I thought it was the best route for him
[16:14] <lolmac> but i can connect to the network or to the adsl
[16:14] <Hans_Henrik> thats a good idea, ty
[16:14] <lolmac> not both at the same time
[16:15] <lolmac> Hans_Henrik:
[16:15] <DJ-Nomad> lolmac,  I have no clue
[16:15] <lolmac> how do i become root in terminal?
[16:15] <n8tuser> lolmac you have two ways to get out of your box? if you were the packet which path would you take?
[16:15] <razor_X> i am still getting the intermittant mouse disrupt and cant regain my mouse controll till i reboot any suggestions?
[16:15] <nikolaj> anyone any ideas?
[16:15] <Hans_Henrik> lolmac: well 1 way is sudo su     - an other way is sudo -i
[16:15] <strongsoul> funkyHat, http://pastebin.com/m23df2de3
[16:15] <strongsoul> please see that
[16:15] <lolmac> n8tuser: i don't know
[16:16] <Hans_Henrik> lolmac: (personally i use sudo su, cause it dont change my directory)
[16:16] <funkyHat> strongsoul: great. so the grub device name will be (hd0,1)
[16:16] <n8tuser> lolmac-> decide if it would be the modem or your router you will use
[16:16] <Edo> Who knows how to setup a crossover cable between ubuntu and XP with out using network manager
[16:16] <RegressLess> How do I get my netbook to use more than half my ram? It always stays under 50% no matter what I run and I could use better performance.
[16:16] <strongsoul> funkyHat, how did you find that ?
[16:17] <n8tuser> Edo why would you want to do that?
[16:17] <r3dux> Edo  - the operating system has nothing to do with the table.
[16:17] <nikolaj> hd0,1 refers to the position of the harddrive in the system doesn't it?? e.g. Primary slave...
[16:17] <dj_> because when it boot it gives me the option to boot into command line, I figured that's where I input the command. if I don't do anything it boots to unbuntu server edition
[16:17] <r3dux> "cable"
[16:17] <n8tuser> RegressLess-> try to use tmpfs for your firefox lets say is one
[16:17] <funkyHat> strongsoul: grub device names are 1 less than the device name in Linux, so sda is the 1st drive, so that becomes 0, and sda2 is the second partition, so that becomes 1
[16:18] <lolmac> hi
[16:18] <Edo> the purpose is to file share only, but network manager in ubuntu was disabled, and the interfaces was manually configed for my shorewall
[16:18] <lolmac> n8tuser, Hans_Henrik
[16:18] <Edo> I've instaled a second nic for just the crosswire
[16:18] <Edo> crossover*
[16:18] <lolmac> how do i access a shared folder of a windows system in the network from ubuntu?
[16:19] <strongsoul> funkyHat, rootnoverify (hd0,1)
[16:19] <strongsoul> makeactive
[16:19] <strongsoul> chainloader +1
[16:19] <strongsoul> ??
[16:19] <lolmac> in windows i typed \\computer_name\computer_shared_folder
[16:19] <FloodBot3> strongsoul: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:19] <lolmac> how do i do this in ubuntu?
[16:19] <funkyHat> strongsoul: should be fine yep
[16:19] <strongsoul> should i give  makeactive ?
[16:19] <pico> Anyone having faced the error "8042009" while trying to install ubuntu?
[16:19] <Hans_Henrik> lolmac: Places -> network -> pray its listed
[16:19] <raven_> hi - what is the way in linux/ubuntu to cut a video using parallel recorded video-files from several cameras?
[16:19] <nikolaj> so still, does anyone have any ideas about why, once installing ubuntu on an inspiron 9300, it will only pick up half of the RAM (in my case 1002.5mb out of a possible 2GB)?
[16:19] <dj_> where else should I input those commands to chnage boot order?
[16:19] <strongsoul> will it make the windows default and again overwrite grub ?
[16:19] <es-web> lolmac: try smb://hostname or smb://ip address of host
[16:19] <strongsoul> funkyHat, done now reboot ?
[16:19] <n8tuser> lolmac-> you have to install samba if you like to use those commands, i dont remember off hand how, so you may have to google for it
[16:20] <strongsoul> funkyHat,
[16:20] <grawity> n8tuser, lolmac: sudo apt-get install samba
[16:20] <strongsoul> funkyHat, you able to see my messages ?
[16:20] <n8tuser> nikolaj->  you sure? what does free in a command line tells you?
[16:20] <funkyHat> strongsoul: I don't know if you need to makeactive, try it without
[16:20] <lolmac> n8tuser: i'd just like to acceess the folder, not use the commands, if there's any way accessing from ubuntu i'll take it
[16:21] <funkyHat> Edo: you could just manually specify the same subnet and different IPs within that subnet for each machine manually
[16:21] <Edo> n8tuser: any ideas for getting the two communicating over the crossover?
[16:21] <funkyHat> s/manually //
[16:21] <nikolaj> n8tuser: it says my total is 1002, used 982, free 20, shared 0, buffers 58, cached 337
[16:21] <legend2440> pico:is it the ubuntu livecd your using?
[16:21] <n8tuser> lolmac-> if its a networked host, then you need to use samba, if its in same computer, you can mount the other(ntfs) partition using ntfs-3g type of filesystem
[16:22] <lolmac> n8tuser:
[16:22] <lolmac> is in the network
[16:22] <pete_> everytime synaptic updates it breaks grub
[16:22] <n8tuser> Edo-> easy, if you have a null cable, am assuming your two nics does not do that auto detect of tx/rx
[16:22] <lolmac> i stil have that problem
[16:22] <pete_> and then i have to use nano to fix it
[16:22] <lolmac> i can't access network and adsl at the same time
[16:22] <n8tuser> lolmac-> then you must use samba
[16:22] <lolmac> i just don't understand how they created this
[16:22] <Edo> funkyhat: I gave that a shot, but for some reason it failed. It's a pretty common thing to do and it worked before for me, but this was before I installed a second nic and turned off network manager.
[16:23] <lolmac> they changed in ubuntu 9.04
[16:23] <frednach> hi, is there a way to use a wireless device without to do ifup "wlan0" ?
[16:23] <lolmac> or you connect to your adsl or you connect to the network
[16:23] <frednach> I connect to my router
[16:23] <n8tuser> frednach->  /etc/init.d/networking restart   as root
[16:23] <dermot> Can anyone tell me where i might get new drivers for my ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio controller (rev 02) sound card when ever i run applications with sound my computer tends to slow down.
[16:24] <Edo> basically all automatic network config has been disabled and needs to be manually done
[16:24] <Edo> I jsut don't know how
[16:24] <n8tuser> lolmac have only one and not both, as i have described it earlier, your packet will get confused
[16:24] <frednach> n8tuser, does it set up my wirelss interface without executing /etc/network/interface ?
[16:24] <gilnfld> does anyone here have experience running ubuntu or any other distro of a SCSI drive?
[16:24] <n8tuser> frednach-> you can open up that script and see how it does it in details
[16:24] <funkyHat> Edo: in /etc/netwrok/interfaces > can you use the configurations that are already there to set up your new card?
[16:25] <legend2440> pico:is it the ubuntu livecd your using?
[16:25] <strongsoul> funkyHat, the option came in list but when selected it said not bootable disk insert gfloopy ...etc
[16:25] <funkyHat> Edo: i.e. can you use them as a guide to set up
[16:25] <strongsoul> funkyHat, may be because of makeactive ?
[16:25] <funkyHat> strongsoul: could be yes, try adding it
[16:25] <n8tuser> gilnfld->  servers typically use scsi hard disk,  so it is common enuff
[16:26] <Edo> funkyhat: basically yes, originally it's just lo and eth0. Both where done manually by me. I made a new one for eth1 and gave it an ip and subnet to communicate with XP
[16:26] <Edo> funkyhat: but that failed
[16:26] <funkyHat> Edo: and you set the same on XP?
[16:26] <eguesttest> thanks guys
[16:26] <eguesttest> i think i will sue the --withou command for the readline
[16:26] <n8tuser> Edo-> its best if you can draw a network layout, you seem to have one too many nic cards, so we can see what you got, use pastbin to post it
[16:26] <gilnfld> n8tuser: are you familiar with any hdparm tags that will alow me to properly suspend/sleep the computer
[16:26] <nikolaj_> anyone?
[16:26] <eguesttest> see ya
[16:27] <Edo> funkyhat: yes. basically I did this: Ubuntu ip:192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 XP: 192.168.0.2 255.255.255.0
[16:27] <n8tuser> gilnfld-> nope, i have such a poor memory.. i have to refer back to google for details
[16:27] <gilnfld> yep i have looked
[16:27] <gilnfld> ok thanks
[16:27] <Edo> n8tuser: pastbin?
[16:28] <darkham> can i play a file with totem without the gui?
[16:28] <Bob_Dole> niko, how much ram is installed?
[16:28] <nikolaj_> 2gb
[16:28] <Bob_Dole> YAY SCROLL
[16:28] <n8tuser> Edo not enuff you also need the gateway settings, pls use a pastebin to post your network layout,
[16:28] <funkyHat> Edo: is that a different subnet to the one the other Ubuntu interface is on? (not that I'm certain that matters)
[16:28] <nikolaj_> but system is only showing 1002.5mb
[16:28]  * Bob_Dole was viewing chat from 30 minutes to a few hours ago)
[16:28] <funkyHat> n8tuser: does he need a gateway, he just wants to transfer files?
[16:28] <nikolaj_> also shows that using free -m in commandline
[16:29] <n8tuser> nikolaj->   use  sudo dmidecode to check the hardware. should list it if detected
[16:29] <n8tuser> funkyHat-> yes, you have to tell which gateway to use
[16:29] <_theWarrior> hello everyone
[16:29] <Edo> funkyhat: yes, eth0 and eth1 have diff subnets
[16:29] <bobo> hey guys, earlier my compiz was working, now it's not
[16:29] <fearful> How can I find which processes are using my mounted phone, it says I can't unmount it because a process is using it but I ejected it from Rythmbox any ideas?
[16:29] <solofight> funkyHat, nope didnt work same problem
[16:30] <solofight> what might be causing this ?
[16:30] <Edo> n8tuser: I'll give the gateway a shot
[16:30] <n8tuser> nikolaj-> if those tools indicates you only have 1gig, you need to reboot and then try again, and see it it corrects itself
[16:30] <bobo> !compiz
[16:30] <_theWarrior> any one aware of any free vpn service for ubuntu/linux?
[16:30] <fearful> bobo, check if your effects are on in the appearance menu
[16:30] <bazhang> _theWarrior, that is offtopic here
[16:30] <n8tuser> fearful  use  lsof
[16:30] <nikolaj_> n8tuser: it's always shown this since i have had it installed (for over 3 months)
[16:30] <fearful> n8tuser, I did but can't findi t
[16:30] <bobo> fearful: they aren't already checked
[16:31] <bobo123> i installed rsh-server on my computer, but i can't find there the file known_hosts
[16:31] <bobo> and i tried to turn em on and they wouldnt
[16:31] <clearscreen> can anyone recommend a graphical regular expression tester? I'd use regex coach but linux development has been discontinued
[16:31] <Bob_Dole> Why would you use rsh when you can use ssh? D:
[16:31] <fearful> bobo, whats the error when you try and enable the 'Extra' effects or 'normal'
[16:31] <_theWarrior> bazhang: i guess not !
[16:31] <grawity> bobo123: Why the hell are you using rsh, tell me?
[16:31] <strongsoul> funkyHat, nope same problem persists, what might be causing this ?
[16:31] <bobo> 'could not enable special effects'
[16:31] <n8tuser> nikolaj-> i dont konw, if you had set some kind of memory limitations in your configs.. check around
[16:32] <strongsoul> it says non bootable media
[16:32] <funkyHat> strongsoul: not sure. can you pastebin your entire menu.lst?
[16:32] <bobo123> grawity: on university we are learning about it, so i'm trying it out
[16:32] <n8tuser> fearful->  what was your exact lsof command?
[16:32] <funkyHat> !paste > strongsoul
[16:32] <bobo> and i know they can work, hell, they were working 10mins ago
[16:32] <_theWarrior> cool
[16:32] <RegressLess> n8tuser: I don't really understand what tmpfs is from reading the wiki
[16:32] <Pienjo> Hi, anyone who could help me? My netbook (Acer Aspire One 110) no longer boots after updating (9.10 netbook remix). It just stops in the splash screen. I tried booting the recovery mode, but that doesn't get very far (It starts modem-manager and stalls after that). Using an older kernel doesn't help..
[16:32] <Bob_Dole> bobo123, ah. SSH is so much more secure though. :|
[16:32] <grawity> bobo123: Really? rsh is quite insecure and never used anymore... you sure they aren't using _s_sh?
[16:32] <fearful> n8tuser, I get so many results I can't even search upward and I know its in one of the first lines
[16:32] <bazhang> Pienjo, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[16:33] <nikolaj_> n8tuser: thanks for trying...i'm not so sure which/where config settings are...
[16:33] <Pienjo> sorry
[16:33] <bobo123> grawity: we will use ssh, later but i just wanna check rsh also
[16:33] <n8tuser> RegressLess -> well you said you want to use your ram, tmpfs uses your some ram as the temporary file system, use it with Firefox and you will gain speed
[16:33] <n8tuser> fearful  then pipe it to more  like  lsof optionshere | more
[16:33] <bobo123> grawity: i've read some forum posts and they say ~/.rsh/known_hosts, file, but i can't find that file
[16:33] <fearful> n8tuser, ok thanks
[16:33] <funkyHat> bobo123: so create it
[16:33] <strongsoul> funkyHat, http://pastebin.com/m70ec3d01
[16:33] <strongsoul> please see it
[16:33] <semioticrobotic> I'm having trouble capturing audio with the internal mic on my Dell mini 9 (running Jaunty).  I am suing Sound Recorder, but nothing is captured.  Can anyone help?
[16:34] <n8tuser> nikolaj -> start with menu.lst  see if any mem settings are active
[16:34] <bobo123> grawity: so when i do rsh -l logName remoteComputer ls, it says Permission Denied, but without command i can log on
[16:34] <RegressLess> n8tuser: ok, that may solve part of the problem, but firefox is rarely a problem.
[16:34] <bobo> fearful: what should i do?
[16:34] <grawity> bobo123: I think rshd is looking for the client host in ~/.rhosts
[16:34] <fearful> bobo, what's the error
[16:35] <n8tuser> RegressLess -> im not sure you consider that as problem even, it is good that your processes does not use as much RAM memory, you should be happier
[16:35] <grawity> bobo123: But, one more thing. Very often, the 'rsh' command actually runs a ssh client.
[16:35] <bobo> 'could not enable special effects'
[16:35] <nikolaj_> n8tuser: menu.lst in command line = command not found
[16:35] <strongsoul> funkyHat, i have added my windows line at the bottom of file
[16:35] <mrand> Hopefully easy one (although I've googled for more time than I care to admit).   I successfully made a USB startup disk with an .iso using the USB startup disk creator.  Now I want to overwrite that .iso with a different .iso - but USB startup disk creator complains the disk is full.  I know it is full - I want to overwrite... but it doesn't give that option.
[16:36] <bobo> fearful well, it's actually 'desktop effects could not be enabled' but whatev
[16:36] <bobo123> grawity: no .rhosts directory, there is nothing in /etc/ssh, just how to configure the ssh server, no hosts file
[16:36] <n8tuser> nikolaj -> not a command but look in   /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:36] <shoss> Hello, I need help please, my wifi adapter is dead after I tried to solve the download limit (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/using-ipw3945-instead-iwl3945-in-hardy.html) I must have done something wrong because after rebooting the adapter was dead.. can someone please help me with this issue?
[16:36] <grawity> bobo123: rsh and ssh are different things.
[16:36] <RegressLess> n8tuser: well, my cpu maxes out and my memory stays under 50%--20% most of the time. I could do better if I knew how.
[16:36] <bobo123> grawity: so how to set that my host is good for the rsh-server
[16:36] <n8tuser> mrand you certainly can erase the current contents and then do the write via disk creator
[16:36] <genii> rsh isn't encrypted
[16:36] <strongsoul> funkyHat, you there ?
[16:37] <grawity> genii: scroll up a little.
[16:37] <funkyHat> strongsoul: oh, windows 7, I heard something about that being awkward with grub. I've not tried it so I don't know.
[16:37] <grawity> bobo123: create a _file_ ~/.rhosts
[16:37] <funkyHat> Does anyone know about dual booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu?
[16:37] <RegressLess> n8tuser: seems like a waste of money to have bought a 2gig stick or ram
[16:37] <strongsoul> funkyHat, no it happens with all windows i think
[16:37] <genii> grawity: See it now :)
[16:37] <bobo123> grawity: and what should i put there?
[16:37] <strongsoul> funkyHat, its not about windows 7 alone
[16:37] <fearful> n8tuser, thanks, and its really strange that after ejecting it from rhythmbox multiple ID's were using my phone from rhythmbox
[16:37] <bobo>  fearful well, it's 'desktop effects could not be enabled' but whatev
[16:37] <n8tuser> RegressLess -> thats a blessing isnt it? your processes less use memory? now about your cpu usage, its your program that uses more cpu and i dont know any cure for that
[16:37] <funkyHat> strongsoul: have you tried with other versions of windows?
[16:38] <__iTroll> hey guys, what is the name of the default apache user on karmic?
[16:38] <strongsoul> funkyHat, now i didnt
[16:38] <__iTroll> is it www-data?
[16:38] <funkyHat> __iTroll: www-data
[16:38] <n8tuser> fearful -> but you were able to find it using lsof  correct?
[16:38] <__iTroll> funkyHat: cool thanks
[16:38] <Edo> funkyhat: http://pastebin.com/d123539b
[16:38] <grawity> bobo123: For a start, "+ +"
[16:38] <fearful> n8tuser, yes thanks a bunch!
[16:38] <grawity> bobo123: This will allow all users from all hostnames.
[16:38] <Edo> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/d123539b
[16:38] <fearful> n8tuser, with grep too
[16:38] <nikolaj_> n8tuser: I have opened menu.lst in gedit, not quite sure what to look for in the text?
[16:38] <bobo123> grawity: ok
[16:38] <fearful> bobo, give me a sec
[16:39] <n8tuser> RegressLess -> memory are cheaper now a days.. just enjoy it :P
[16:39] <funkyHat> Edo: comment out the line auto eth1
[16:39] <RegressLess> n8tuser: I heard that Ubuntu uses virtual memory from the swap more than actual ram, which is a slower way to do it.
[16:39] <n8tuser> nikolaj -> look around for a mem setting,  use  /mem  if you use vim
[16:39] <funkyHat> Edo: wait maybe you don't need to do that...
[16:39] <bobo123> grawity: thanks a lot, it works now
[16:39] <funkyHat> Edo: try it anyway :)
[16:39] <Edo> funkyhat: ok
[16:39] <ecolitan> what is the difference between cron and anacron?
[16:40] <__iTroll> funkyHat: what is the default password of www-data?
[16:40] <grawity> bobo123: 'man hosts.equiv' for more details.
[16:40] <funkyHat> __iTroll: there is none, and there shouldn't be one
[16:40] <__iTroll> funkyHat: thanks
[16:40] <n8tuser> RegressLess -> not just ubuntu, all the nix systems are supposed to use swap to swap out from ram memory, so its a blessing really that your processes dont use the swap, its faster
[16:40] <funkyHat> ecolitan: anacron takes into account the fact that the computer might not be on all the time
[16:40] <Edo> funkyhat: nothing
[16:41] <funkyHat> Edo: not even ping?
[16:41] <nikolaj_> n8tuser: does memtest86 boot option mean anything to you?
[16:41] <Edo> Funkyhat: nope. It seems that when I do an ifconfig as well the eth1 still doesn't show an ip
[16:41] <n8tuser> Edo -> gateway for crossover should be the ip of the other end box
[16:41] <ecolitan> i want to run a command always two or three minutes after the system is fully booted, can anacron do that?
[16:41] <Bob_Dole> Hrrrrng, donated computers with BIOS Passwords!
[16:42] <n8tuser> nikolaj_ -> ive used it sparingly, did that show any errors at all? that could be an indicator that things are not well
[16:42] <funkyHat> Edo: I don't suppose it would be worth suggesting checking you're actually using a crossover cable :D
[16:42] <funkyHat> ecolitan: no. you can add a script to the startup that waits for a specified amount of time though
[16:43] <grawity> funkyHat: Most NICs of today can do automatic crossover.
[16:44] <funkyHat> grawity: I thought that was mainly switches, but ok
[16:44] <nikolaj_> n8tuser: i haven't used memtest86, but that was the only reference to memory i thought i could find in the whole gedit file. it also gave an e.g. memtest86=true
[16:44] <Bob_Dole> It's most NICs. I've used the feature many times. Though wouldn't it suck to have the 1 NIC that doesn't do it :o
[16:44] <grawity> funkyHat: Defined as an optional part of the Gigabit Ethertube standard, but very common in 100Mbps ones too.
[16:45] <coreyman> How come I am unable to upload into /var/www after installing proftpd?
[16:45] <funkyHat> Bob_Dole: actually you'd be fine as long as 1 of the 2 supported it ;)
[16:45] <n8tuser> ecolitan -> want to try newer things? i think the ubuntu is pushing for upstart and udev so try those
[16:46] <n8tuser> coreyman -> perhaps perms are not set correctly
[16:46] <genii> coreyman: Because /var/www is owned by www-data
[16:46] <n8tuser> nikolaj_ -> your bios does say you have two gigs?
[16:46] <nikolaj_> good idea, haven't checked
[16:46] <ecolitan> n8tuser: i dont know these things?
[16:47] <coreyman> genii i already did a chown -R  coreyman /var/www i thought
[16:47] <nikolaj_> but also not sure how ot!
[16:47] <nikolaj_> *to
[16:47] <n8tuser> ecolitan -> well maybe time to learn? am trying to learn it myself :P  slow going though
[16:47] <nikolaj_> but i guess cycle through the menus?
[16:47] <Edo> n8tuser: changed the gateway, still nothing it seems
[16:47] <n8tuser> nikolaj_ -> yah look around
[16:47] <Edo> funkyhat: its def a crossover now, still nothing.
[16:47] <n8tuser> Edo -> whats the gateway?
[16:48] <nikolaj_> n8tuser: thanks again, i might be back in a bit
[16:48] <ecolitan> n8tuser: i will start looing into it
[16:48] <coreyman> genii well i just did it again, and now i can upload >.> guess i didn't do it... thought i did, lol
[16:48]  * genii looks for his headache pills
[16:48] <Edo> n8tuser:  ubuntu: gw:192.168.0.1;    xp: gw:192.168.0.2
[16:48] <Bob_Dole> Well, I can't see well enough to find a clr pwd jumper on that motherboard, guess I have to see if the HP site has the information somewhere :/
[16:48] <n8tuser> ecolitan and there is also inotify to trigger a script if one dir or file changes..  several new things, called event driven
[16:49] <cribozai> Ubuntu 9.04, Xchat-GNOME. HOWTO: automatic auth for QuakeNet?
[16:49] <n8tuser> Edo -> now try the ping to test
[16:49] <genii> coreyman: Instead of modifying ownership of system areas like /var and so on... perhaps consider something like userdir apache extension. In /home/coreyman/public_html then the place would be and not /var/www
[16:49] <abiotic_rhyme> shouldn't the /var/www belong to the www:data and then you add the users you want to the group?
[16:50] <genii> abiotic_rhyme: Yes, although there are other solutions as well
[16:50] <abiotic_rhyme> www data*
[16:50] <n8tuser> coreyman -> am assuming you are using some kind of vftp tutorial guide, follow their instructions
[16:50] <abiotic_rhyme> ok
[16:50] <coreyman> genii that's excatly what i want to do!
[16:50] <abiotic_rhyme> I to am learning though I might have been doing it wrong
[16:51] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[16:51] <Tetracomm> How do I add files to an ISO?
[16:51] <Edo> n8tuser: nothing, but I jsut noticed something! it seems my xp can ping itself, but the ubuntu box can't
[16:51] <grawity> Tetracomm: I think you need to extract it, change, and then rebuild using mkisofs.
[16:51] <abiotic_rhyme> Tetracomm hello
[16:52] <genii> Tetracomm: You have to remaster it by expanding out the contents to someplace writeable, modify, use mkisofs or similar to make the new iso
[16:52] <coreyman> genii where is a good tutorial on how to use the userdir extension
[16:52] <n8tuser> Edo ->  i have been requesting a network layout drawing , can you do this and post it?
[16:52] <l_r> hello
[16:52] <genii> coreyman: They can probably give you assistance on that in #httpd
[16:52] <l_r> how is empathy working with ubuntu 9.10 beta?
[16:53] <coreyman> genii tyvm
[16:53] <fearful> !karmic l_r
[16:53] <coreyman> genii who was /var/www owned by before i did a chown on it?
[16:53] <fearful> !karmic | l_r
[16:53] <genii> coreyman: www-data:www-data
[16:53] <coreyman> k thx
[16:53] <genii> np
[16:53] <cribozai> Ubuntu 9.04, Xchat-GNOME. HOWTO: automatic auth on connect for QuakeNet? Anyone know how this works?
[16:54] <Tetracomm> genii: Ok, this is for an Archlinux ISO which I want to install to, will it still be able to boot when I use mkisofs to burn it back to a cd?
[16:55] <n8tuser> !remaster | Tetracomm
[16:55] <Edo> n8tuser: network layout? like a ascii drawing or ..... sorry I' a little slow on that
[16:55] <genii> Tetracomm: I haven't tried with a bootable image, so don't know if that part will be preserved
[16:55] <Panzer> I am running ubuntu and firefox.  When I go to youtube and try to play a video full screen it dumps back to the webpage.  What should I do?
[16:56] <n8tuser> Edo where its easier for us to distinguish which box is which and how they are interconnected,  a picture is worht a thousand words
[16:56] <Altuno> Hey, ive downloaded the latest Desktop Ubuntu .ISO from the official ubuntu websitye and ive burned the ISO onto a CDROM and ive set up a vmware virtual machine to run it, when i run the install in the VM, an error occurs: No boot filename recieved, exiting intel PXE ROM, operating system not found. What can i do?
[16:56] <Edo> n8tuser: I'll do my best
[16:56] <Tetracomm> Thank you.
[16:57] <Othman> what to do i my system fraze ??
[16:57] <Tetracomm> :)
[16:57] <foofish> Othman: control-alt-f1, log in, run top and see if anything is hogging the cpu, kill it if so, if not restart gdm
[16:58] <Bob_Dole> AND NOW, to get an Ubuntu 8.04 disk. How much longer is 8.04 supported?
[16:58] <foofish> Othman: if control-alt-f1 has no effect, i'm not sure... google for the magic sysrq key
[16:58] <Othman> ok it didn't to me and I force it to shutdown by pressing the button
[16:58] <genii> Bob_Dole: Another year for desktop, another 3 years for server version
[16:59] <Bob_Dole> genii, Server is what I'm really after..though basic GUI's are nice every so often Dx
[16:59] <genii> Bob_Dole: If you primarily use server, you might want to use #ubuntu-server channel :)
[17:00] <foofish> what's the difference between the server and desktop versions? do they use different repositories?
[17:00] <Bob_Dole> genii, I use it on the desktop and server...though my server is using the desktop version of 8.04 >.>
[17:00] <foofish> or is it just a matter of which packages are initially installed?
[17:01] <nikolaj> n8tuser: i went into the BIOS, was actually easier than i thought to find, turns out that it's only recognising 1024mb of memory
[17:01] <Othman> Ctrt+Alt+F1 show me a freezing image
[17:01] <n8tuser> nikolaj -> there you go, thats your clue
[17:01] <Othman> what to do
[17:01] <nikolaj> hehe yea XD
[17:01] <n8tuser> Othman -> press the on/off switch and restart
[17:01] <Othman> it didn't show me anything
[17:02] <nikolaj> but I have no idea why it's only recognising that much, when i had xp on here it recognised all 2gb
[17:02] <n8tuser> you may have to press in on longer tough
[17:02] <foofish> Othman: http://tazbuntu.blogspot.com/2008/05/magic-sysrq-key.html
[17:02] <Othman> lol ok i'll see that
[17:02] <Altuno> Can anyone help me with my problem?
[17:02] <Altuno> i cant install Ubuntu
[17:03] <Othman> Altuno :do u set your partitins
[17:04] <nikolaj> is there anyway the bios could have been affected by Ubuntu?
[17:04] <Altuno> Othman, i run through the setup of VMWare, i dont partition any drive
[17:04] <Altuno> but i create a file which stor5es the memory
[17:04] <fchurca> Hi! I would like to now if there is some option to place an order now in the shipit page to get a cd of karmic as soon as it's released
[17:05] <reeeeeesty> how would i got about using a leading period in a wildcard?
[17:05] <reeeeeesty> go*
[17:05] <malcolm> hey
[17:05] <genii> fchurca: Distributions don't appear on the shipit page as an option until after official release dates
[17:05] <nikolaj> fchurca: why not just dl it when it's released? some sites will let you pre order, best look at the distributers closest to you
[17:05] <Panzer> Getting errors when I run video from youtube full screen in firefox.  I have tried the libGL preload fix but it does not work
[17:06] <fchurca> Ok. By any chance do you know by name of any free distributor with whom I can place a preorder?
[17:07] <uberspaced> when I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I don't get a menu asking me what resolution I want to choose
[17:07] <uberspaced> this is on 9.10 prerelease.
[17:07] <Padhu> Panzer: Opera
[17:07] <uberspaced> is there a way to force dpkg-reconfigure to give me the x configuration menu?
[17:07] <bazhang> uberspaced, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[17:07] <Altuno> If im creatinbg an Ubuntu CD, do i need more than just the ISO on the CD?
[17:07] <uberspaced> uhm, ok.
[17:08] <Panzer> Padhu: is there a non opera fix?
[17:08] <fchurca> Altuno: No, you need only the ISO
[17:08] <bazhang> Altuno, burnin g the iso or remastering one
[17:08] <Othman> Thanks foofish
[17:08] <raven_> hi - what is the way in linux/ubuntu to cut a video using parallel recorded video-files from several cameras?
[17:08] <nikolaj> fchurca: go onto the ubuntu site, there is an area somewhere where you can choose which version you want and it then asks where you live and gives you options of different suppliers
[17:08] <Altuno> bazhang thats all i have on the cd but im still getting errors trying to install
[17:08] <fchurca> nikolaj: Thanks, I'll take a peek there :)
[17:08] <nikolaj> but generally i think if you google, I haven't done it for ages, you can find someone
[17:09] <bazhang> Altuno, did you md5 the iso
[17:09] <Altuno> md5
[17:09] <Altuno> ?
[17:09] <bazhang> !md5 | Altuno
[17:10] <Altuno> when i try install it gives me errors: no boot filename recieved
[17:10] <Altuno> exiting intel PXE ROM
[17:11] <bazhang> Altuno, md5 the iso (as linked above) burn at very low speed, do the disk integrity check
[17:11] <Altuno> is that to do with md5?
[17:11] <Zilla> how would i make custom screen res for my 2nd monitor a LCD TV?
[17:12] <bishop> just stopping by
[17:12] <skylar> hey I was wondering if anyone could tell me why I always have to change the screen resolution when I reboot ubuntu, is there a way to get it "saved" so it always starts at the choosen one ?
[17:12] <shaullx1> i tried to make a bootable usb device with imagewriter but it wasnt bootable, why?
[17:12] <shaullx1> it just copied the files
[17:13] <datta> my flash doesn't work in any of the browsers, like it works but the action buttons does not
[17:14] <datta> like when i play games involving mouse gestures, it works but if it goes to the keyboard, the navigation keys don't work
[17:14] <datta> but when i press those navigation keys for up and down in scrolling pages, it works fine
[17:14] <fchurca> nikolaj: I've taken a peek there, but I think I'll just wait 'till it gets released to place an order.
[17:14] <Edo> n8tuser: http://edo.bemaniso.ws/network.jpg
[17:15] <datta> why is there such a different type of situation for this flash, flash crashing happened but this is totally different.
[17:15] <Altuno> bazhang do i just run the md5 program in the directory of the donwloaded ISO and on the cd?
[17:15] <varmont> karmic coala
[17:15] <Panzer> I have an issue.  On Firefox and Opera when I try to play a fullscreen video from youtube it errors and goes back to the page and plays the video
[17:16] <bazhang> varmont, #ubuntu+1 for karmic support
[17:16] <Edo> funkyhat: http://edo.bemaniso.ws/network.jpg
[17:16] <bazhang> Altuno, did you see the link?
[17:16] <varmont> thx all
[17:17] <dennis00> Hi, can I run the opensuse layout on Ubuntu?
[17:17] <varmont> wew
[17:17] <raven_> is ffmpeg able to name audio-tracks i add with "-newaudio" like "english", "german"....?
[17:18] <Padhu> Panzer: I have no Idea
[17:18] <Altuno> bazhang, yes iu checked the link i dont fully understand'
[17:19] <Panzer> Padhu: you helped in letting me know it was a flash issue.  Not  a flash/firefox issue.
[17:19] <capon> hello
[17:19] <capon> i need some help plz
[17:19] <fchurca> Panzer: It's a common issue in Flash on Linux in general. A friend of mine solved it running compiz
[17:19] <bazhang> capon, ask a question
[17:20] <bazhang> Altuno, please clarify which part you dont understand
[17:20] <capon> i am trying to apt-get a program
[17:20] <capon> but
[17:20] <capon> is ses
[17:20] <Panzer> fchurca: ok there has to be another solution.
[17:20] <capon> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[17:20] <capon> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[17:20] <FloodBot2> capon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:20] <bazhang> capon, using sudo?
[17:20] <dennis00> Hi, can I run the opensuse layout on Ubuntu?
[17:20] <capon> yes
[17:20] <bazhang> dennis00, what is the 'opensuse layout'
[17:20] <bazhang> capon, close other instances of apt
[17:21] <fchurca> capon: try "sudo apt-get install <yourprogram>"
[17:21] <dennis00> bazhang: a great cannonical gnome or kde layout
[17:21] <Altuno> bazhang, im pretty sure the program needs to be run from the CMD in the downloaded ISO directory, but thern what else
[17:21] <grekkos> what software can I use to burn an audio CD? brasero isn't working, it just hangs on "Normaliing Audio"
[17:21] <erUSUL> grekkos: gnomebaker
[17:21] <bazhang> grekkos, gnomebaker k3b
[17:22] <capon> sudo apt-get update;apt-get install gerix-wifi-cracker
[17:22] <capon> Hit http://archive.offensive-security.com pwnsauce Release.gpg
[17:22] <capon> Ign http://archive.offensive-security.com pwnsauce/main Translation-en_US
[17:22] <capon> Ign http://archive.offensive-security.com pwnsauce/microverse Translation-en_US
[17:22] <capon> Ign http://archive.offensive-security.com pwnsauce/macroverse Translation-en_US
[17:22] <capon> Ign http://archive.offensive-security.com pwnsauce/restricted Translation-en_US
[17:22] <FloodBot2> capon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <grekkos> bazhang: k3b wasn't working either for some reason
[17:22] <fchurca> Panzer: It works better (or at least less crappily) on NVidia boards with official drivers
[17:22] <grekkos> bazhang: actually k3b wouldn't even start up
[17:22] <bazhang> capon, that does not look like ubuntu
[17:22] <grawity> bazhang: Maybe he added his own repo
[17:22] <capon> it's always debian
[17:23] <bazhang> capon, debian?
[17:23] <skylar> hey, I was wondering how i would get Nvidia X server settings to run on start up so that maybe i would have to always change my settings after reboot
[17:23] <capon> backtrack
[17:23] <bazhang> capon, bt4?
[17:23] <skylar> wouldn't have to *
[17:23] <capon> yes
[17:23] <bazhang> #remote-exploit
[17:23] <KEBA> neither my bios nor knoopix detect my hdd right. its a 1tb hd, the bios tells me its 33mb large. ive disconnected the hdd to the motherboard and reconnected now...
[17:24] <capon> thanks
[17:24] <bazhang> KEBA, what about ubuntu
[17:25] <KEBA> bazhang: i cannot boot ubuntu (/home, swap and / are on this hdd) - so ive thougt its a problem which can be asked here?
[17:25] <es-web> On my acer laptop, when i press fn + up og fn + down (Sound up or sound down). The keybord stops working
[17:25] <es-web> Ubuntu 8.10
[17:26] <heyjoe> Hello, after running an upgrade packages seem to be getting held back. http://paste.ubuntu.com/290205/ for the apt-get output. Why is this happening? Is this mean to be happening? and if not, how do I fix it?
[17:26] <bazhang> KEBA, the livecd does not work? ie Ubuntu?
[17:26] <KEBA> bazhang: it does
[17:27] <bazhang> heyjoe, what version of ubuntu
[17:27] <fchurca> heyjoe: Try upgrading via synaptic
[17:27] <KEBA> -> i ask in the ot channel
[17:27] <Zilla> how would i make custom screen res for my 2nd monitor a LCD TV?
[17:27] <fccf> !karmic | heyjoe
[17:27] <heyjoe> bazhang: karmic
[17:27] <grekkos> gnomebaker seems to be having better luck, thanks everyone
[17:27] <etronik> Hello, what's the best channel to help me stream video through VLC from Ubuntu server ?
[17:27] <bazhang> heyjoe, karmic support in #ubuntu+1
[17:27] <heyjoe> many thanks
[17:28] <heyjoe> will try synaptic, otherwise support on #ubuntu+1
[17:28] <marck> hello
[17:28] <marck> can you help me ?
[17:28] <fccf> !ask | marck
[17:28] <bazhang> marck, need a question
[17:28] <marck> i must to use ftp to copy a directory from a server to my hd
[17:28] <Mohammad[B]> how i can resolve this problem ? please help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/290209/ (/dev/pts not mounted?)
[17:29] <KEBA> bazhang: ohhm, or should i start the ubuntu live cd?
[17:29] <bazhang> KEBA, well that would be on topic here :)
[17:29] <es-web> On my acer laptop, when i press fn + up og fn + down (Sound up or sound down). The keybord stops working Ubuntu 8.10
[17:30] <fccf> !repeat | es-web
[17:30] <fchurca> marck: did you try ftp <yourserver>?
[17:31] <marck> yes my server
[17:31] <KEBA> bazhang: ^^ - but the livecd wouldnt help me, i assume
[17:31] <marck> i don't remember, idon't use from different time
[17:31] <marck> i forgotten
[17:32] <es-web> Sorry :)
[17:32] <bazhang> !keys | es-web
[17:32] <doval> hi Im spanish but i need to get some info about ubuntu can anyone help me. ok i have jaunty on the laptop and i can not get wifi conections. I have a Ralink wireless RT2500 802.11g cardbus/minipci my laptop its a packard bell easy notebook i tried to install the linux ralink drivers but it doesnt work What do you think i have to do
[17:32] <fccf> marck: perhaps we can get you to a channel that speaks your language, cause you don't speak mine well enough for me to support you ... what is your native language?
[17:32] <doval> ?
[17:33] <marck> yes, but i asked only to copy from my ftp to my hd
[17:33] <Mohammad[B]> how to i can mount /proc in chrooted ubuntu ?
[17:33] <marck> i think is not a question on language
[17:33] <fccf> marck: I don't understand you, what you need to do should be very simple
[17:34] <fchurca> marck: have you tried a graphical client?
[17:34] <datta> can't anyone please help me with the flash problem?
[17:34] <erUSUL> doval: i have a rt2500 pci (desktop pc) and it works out of the box with the provided drivers (no need ro install anything)
[17:34] <marck> no by shell
[17:34] <doval> can you tell me some spanish servers and i can go inside to ask in them ubuntu chanel
[17:34] <doval> ?
[17:34] <erUSUL> !es
[17:34] <n8tuser> Edo okay dont try to have your host have two paths to get to same destinations,
[17:34] <fchurca> marck: Try a graphical client; it is easier that way.
[17:35] <marck> i waqnt ot know the syntax
[17:35] <marck> i needed
[17:35] <marck> don't interest me X
[17:35] <dennis00> does ubuntu have text-to-speech?
[17:35] <fccf> dennis00: called festival
[17:35] <marck> fucked X
[17:36] <fccf> !ohmy | marck
[17:36] <shawn_> !language | marck
[17:36]  * grawity punches ubottu
[17:36] <dennis00> Is there a way to list packages by megs used?
[17:36] <fchurca> marck: try to mount the remote ftp directory and then copy it from there
[17:36] <marck> i hate X
[17:37] <dennis00> but love xxx?
[17:37] <marck> can i ?
[17:37] <marck> or is forbidden to hate X ?
[17:37] <dennis00> apt-get xxx
[17:37] <grawity> marck: It isn't. It is, however, forbidden to express your hate in such language as above.
[17:37] <fccf> marck: man ftp
[17:37] <grawity> marck: Speaking of which, you're using Xchat, aren't you?
[17:37] <n8tuser> dennis00 -> come again? what was your question?
[17:38] <Guest52805> ho, da.. it a while ago, how can ican the chat again? ./ or # ..
[17:38] <dennis00> Is there a way to list packages by megs used?
[17:38] <Zilla> how would i make custom screen res for my 2nd monitor a LCD TV?
[17:38] <dennis00> I have installed xubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop and want to see how much they use.
[17:38] <fccf> Zilla: nvidia?
[17:38] <marck> what i am  using must not interest you
[17:38] <dennis00> I think office uses 400mb of the packages from kubuntu.
[17:38] <shawn_> The program 'porn' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:  sudo apt-get install porn
[17:38] <MM^> is there a site with an overview of xplash? i want to try why xpslash doesnt show up
[17:38] <marck> the question is that i must migrate
[17:38] <marck> so if you want help me
[17:38] <fchurca> mark: there is no command in the official ftp client to copy directories recursively
[17:38] <marck> ok
[17:38] <fccf> !ohmy | shawn_
[17:38] <marck> if don't want help me
[17:39] <n8tuser> dennis00 -> try  dpkg -L packagename  or man dpkg for list of options
[17:39] <marck> is another question
[17:39] <fchurca> mark: if you have access to the remote server, tar the remote directory and copy the tar
[17:39] <marck> you have not interest to help people
[17:39] <marck> or you did it
[17:39] <fchurca> marck: i'm trying to help
[17:39] <shawn_> marck There is like 10 people trying to help you
[17:39] <n8tuser> !attitude | marck
[17:40] <marck> i have not time to lose to wiki, http, manuals, guides,
[17:40] <n8tuser> marck ->  you can afford to pay?
[17:40] <fchurca> mark: do you have ssh access to the remote server?
[17:40] <marck> so if you know thwe sysntax is ok, i am losing time
[17:40] <marck> with you
[17:40] <marck> yes
[17:40] <fchurca> mark: access the remote folder, and make a tar file of it
[17:41] <fchurca> mark: then, copy  the tar file from there to your local drive
[17:41] <Zilla> !attitude | marck
[17:41] <fchurca> mark: then, untar the tar file
[17:42] <marck> i have not time to lose
[17:42] <marck> bye bye
[17:42] <Zilla> how would i make custom screen res for my 2nd monitor a LCD TV?
[17:42]  * grawity sighs.
[17:42] <allan8904> wow you's are patient
[17:42] <allan8904> i woulda went ape at that marck guy
[17:43] <kaddy> hello fellow windows users
[17:43] <Zilla> no joke
[17:43] <mgv2> why the voulume is low in my laptop?
[17:43] <fchurca> kaddy: hello
[17:43] <shawn_> !ubuntu | kaddy
[17:43] <nitrohax> !help kaddy
[17:43] <azlon> i am running XP in VirtualBox OSE. is there a way to create an icon to start the VM? currently i have to open vbox and select the OS i want to start
[17:43] <gizmobay> I have a script that calls stat_busy. The script says it can't find stat_busy. Anyone know which package I need?
[17:43] <kaddy> im currently using microsoft ubuntu
[17:43] <nitrohax> kaddy> what?
[17:43] <kaddy> i've been told
[17:43] <fchurca> kaddy: dual booting or using colinux?
[17:43] <bazhang> kaddy, did you have a support question
[17:43] <allan8904> kaddy i thought canonical made ubuntu?
[17:44] <grawity> allan8904: We get used to these after a few weeks.
[17:44] <wes32> hi. i'm trying to control my webcam from terminal in ubuntu, but I would not know where to start. anyone have any ideas/suggestions?
[17:44] <Neurolysis> Hi -- I just tried to install Java JRE through apt-get in terminal, it just came up with a whole EULA, with "<Ok>" at the bottom. How do I select that? I've tried clicking it, pressing O, pressing enter, pressing Y...
[17:44] <Neurolysis> any ideas?
[17:44] <bazhang> Neurolysis, tab to ok
[17:44] <grawity> Neurolysis: Try Tab.
[17:44] <wes32> Neurolysis: press the right arrow on your keyboard
[17:44] <Neurolysis> thanks
[17:44] <kaddy> i got my first pc today... and a computer guy charged me 300 bux for a copy of microsoft ubuntu..... its what everybody uses isn't it?
[17:44] <allan8904> grawity, still i just woulda been like "i know the answer and i'm not telling"
[17:44] <wes32> tab works too ;o
[17:44] <Neurolysis> wes32: right didn't work, tab did.
[17:45] <shawn_> kaddy There is no Microsoft ubuntu
[17:45] <Neurolysis> thanks :)
[17:45] <bazhang> kaddy, no of course not. Please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:45] <nitrohax> kaddy is a id 10 T error
[17:45] <kaddy> what do you mean its not?
[17:45] <shawn_> !ot | kaddy
[17:45] <Neurolysis> nitrohax: doesn't work in text really :P
[17:45] <bazhang> kaddy, this is not a discussion channel. Please take it elsewhere
[17:45] <fchurca> kaddy: maybe you mean "ubuntu operating system"
[17:45] <kaddy> i have a question
[17:45] <allan8904> or kaddy help some people
[17:45] <grawity> nitrohax: you do realize that writing it with 10 instead of 'ten' makes it pointless?
[17:45] <Zilla> how would i make custom screen res for my 2nd monitor a LCD TV?
[17:46] <fchurca> kaddy: please ask your question
[17:46] <kaddy> i did have a support question
[17:46] <wes32> Neurolysis: is this in gnome-terminal? because pressing the right arrow works for me in that specific screen
[17:46] <bazhang> !xrandr | Zilla
[17:46] <Neurolysis> wes32: didn't work for me, is in gnome-terminal
[17:46] <Neurolysis> :\
[17:46] <kaddy> I wanted to know how to windows registry cleaner
[17:46] <kaddy> how to install
[17:46] <kaddy> windows registry cleaner
[17:46] <nitrohax> I was worried he might not understand what i was saying. got to take it slow with some people you know
[17:46] <Neurolysis> you can't install a windows registry cleaner in ubuntu
[17:46]  * fchurca slaps face
[17:46] <bazhang> kaddy, please desist
[17:46] <shawn_> kaddy This is not a Windows support channel try #windows.
[17:46] <wes32> Neurolysis: hm, good to know - I always recommend pressing the right arrow, i'll start suggesting Tab instead now
[17:46] <fccf> kaddy: this isn't windows support ask in ##windows
[17:46] <Zilla> thank you
[17:47] <Neurolysis> wes32: :)
[17:47] <kaddy> but im using ubuntu
[17:47] <allan8904> try the unified kernel
[17:47] <allan8904> it lets you run windows apps natively in linux
[17:47] <allan8904> without going through wine
[17:47] <fccf> kaddy: there is no windows registry in ubuntu
[17:47] <kaddy> i don't drink wine
[17:47] <fchurca> kaddy: are you dual-booting, using colinux, or luk?
[17:47] <kaddy> only rum
[17:47] <mgv2> the volume is so low and the noise outside make it impossible to hear
[17:47] <kaddy> or beer
[17:47] <grawity> kaddy: Ubuntu is not Windows, it's not made by Microsoft, it doesn't have a Registry, and you cannot use Windows Registry cleanters on it.
[17:47] <BlouBlou> kaddy: ubuntu hasn't got register
[17:47] <grawity> kaddy: Also, try #ubuntu-trolls
[17:48] <Xcell> lol
[17:48]  * fchurca wanders off to hunt lunch
[17:48] <wes32> so no one has heard of any method of using a webcam through terminal, then? :(
[17:48] <BlouBlou> that was funny
[17:48] <bazhang> lets get on topic please
[17:48] <kaddy> so rude
[17:49] <fccf> !guidelines | kaddy
[17:49] <bazhang> kaddy, please stop being disruptive
[17:49] <nitrohax> kaddy> isn't it the weekend ther ein aussie? don't you havea  rave to go to or something?/
[17:49] <usser_> wes32, sure thing
[17:49] <allan8904> nitrohax: whats that supposed to mean?
[17:49] <benc> I have a makefile that compile files in the $(BEAMS) var and then execute two commands. How can I execute the commands before I compile the file?
[17:49] <fccf> nitrohax: please don't encourage him
[17:49] <usser_> wes32, use mplayer with framebuffer output
[17:49] <benc> this is the makefile: successsuccesssuccesssuccess
[17:49] <benc> benc: http://dpaste.com/105448/
[17:49] <kaddy> a rave? nar... i prefer to ride kangaroo's on the side of the road
[17:50] <shawn_> !troll | kaddy
[17:50] <Doonz> hey guys, i built some simple shell scripts for rsyncing a few directories, i tested the script manually by running ./script.sh everything worked fine. so i went into crontab 30 * * * * /home/media/script.sh  <- is that the proper syntax to use within crontab
[17:50] <RanyAlbeg> is there a program for mouse recording which will work on Jaunty? tried Xnee and Xmacro. Both give errors.Thanks.
[17:50] <kaddy> im not a troll... they got hair that sticks up
[17:51] <usser_> wes32, like mplayer -vo fbdev /dev/video0
[17:51] <tvjudge> Can somone point me to some procedures for setting up a RAID 0 for jaunty?
[17:52] <wes32> usser_: interesting. don't I need to enable the webcam first, though?
[17:52] <usser_> wes32, framebuffer has to be enabled in /boot/grub/menu.lst which i believe is not the case for ubuntu
[17:52] <fccf> kaddy: you are trolling, regardless there are people who will help you here if you ask the right questions and aknowledge the fact that they are volunteers, and don't put up with nonsense
[17:52] <wes32> ah, that'd be why :)
[17:52] <bazhang> fccf, its taken care of please move on
[17:52] <Doonz> just put kaddy on ignore and help others
[17:53] <usser_> wes32, if the webcam is detected properly it will create a /dev/video file
[17:53] <Doonz> like moi
[17:53] <Ubuntu-Noob> can anyone help me figure out why I don't have access to cd rom drive ?
[17:53] <usser_> wes32, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[17:54] <Neurolysis> Wait -- is it not possible to encrypt the system partition on Ubuntu?
[17:55] <lonnix> can anyone help me configure a wireless system on a toshiba satellite?
[17:55] <fccf> Neurolysis: /boot has to be unencrypted
[17:55] <Neurolysis> fccf: what about the main filesystem?
[17:55] <RanyAlbeg>  is there a program for mouse recording which will work on Ubuntu Jaunty? tried Xnee and Xmacro. Both give errors.Thanks.
[17:55] <jdsandeson> How Dose one or more go about starting a lug?
[17:55] <figurister> !ops
[17:55] <Neurolysis> ugh
[17:55] <gizmobay> I have a script that calls stat_busy. The script says it can't find stat_busy. Anyone know which package I need?
[17:56] <henrypainter> is there  a straight forward way to use a *cable* tv tuner on ubuntu?
[17:56] <henrypainter> mythtv seems to be aimed at terrestirealll
[17:56] <usser_> henrypainter, tvtime
[17:56] <lonnix> can anyone help me with wireless issues on 9.04?
[17:56] <henrypainter> cool thanks
[17:56] <fccf> Neurolysis: everything 'can' be encrypted except /boot ... I personally don't know of logical reasons for encrypting the entire filesystem though, usually people just encrypt /home
[17:57] <Neurolysis> fccf: that's what i meant, but it isn't giving me the option
[17:57] <Neurolysis> odd
[17:57] <figurister> I need help with windows
[17:57] <figurister> windows 7
[17:57] <bazhang> figurister, why did you call the ops
[17:57] <fccf> figurister: please seek help in ##windows
[17:57] <wes32> usser_: seems to work a bit differently in GRUB2 ;(
[17:57] <Neurolysis> figurister: stop trolling. already seen your !_ops call
[17:57] <figurister> bazhang, why not :D
[17:58] <usser_> wes32, oh grub2, hm
[17:58] <fchurca> lonnix: what's your issue?
[17:59] <usser_> wes32, i think its the same thing, just instead of menu.lst theres grub.cfg file in /boot/grub
[17:59] <wes32> usser_: yea, but it's formatted differently, new scripting language
[17:59] <lonnix> I have a toshiba satellite with a realtek rtl8192e wireless card and i i can't find any wireless networks
[17:59] <wes32> more readable imo, but i'm not too used to it just yet
[18:00] <paul_s> hi, newbie again, i would like a tip or two on installing virtualbox, should i save file, or open with gdebi package installer, or other?
[18:00] <bazhang> paul_s, from repos?
[18:01] <usser_> wes32, menuentry sections look pretty much the same. anyhow mplayer -vo fbdev will only work in a true console, the one you get with ctrl+alt+f2 wont work in a terminal emulator like xterm or gnome-terminal
[18:01] <Neurolysis> fccf: no matter which partition or drive i select, it refuses to have the option to encrypt the system drive. any idea what i should be selecting? i should be seleting the larger of the two partitions, right?
[18:01] <notta> paul_s> make sure you go to the actual Vbox site to get all the usb support and other functions
[18:01] <paul_s> no i went to the page and clicked on the one for my os
[18:01] <henrypainter> getting a nosignal message with tvtime
[18:01] <Neurolysis> paul_s: think you can get it with apt-get
[18:01] <paul_s> 9.04 i386
[18:01] <fccf> Neurolysis: is this within Ubiquity, the ubuntu installer?
[18:01] <henrypainter> is there a trouble shooting guide for tvtime?
[18:01] <wes32> usser_: I was afraid you'd say something like that!
[18:01] <Neurolysis> fccf: truecrypt. ubuntu has native encryption?
[18:02] <paul_s> which is the best way? apt-get?
[18:02] <usser_> henrypainter, play with inputs in tvtime. how do you connect your cable box, i presume with some sort of video capture card?
[18:02] <Neurolysis> paul_s: apt-get is simpler, yes
[18:02] <usser_> wes32, hehe
[18:02] <bazhang> paul_s, do you need usb support or not
[18:02] <henrypainter> yes it works wiht windows
[18:02] <paul_s> usb woudl be nice
[18:02] <henrypainter> it has an asus tuner card inst alled
[18:03] <wes32> usser_: i'm trying to make a snapshot of everyone who logs in from GDM with my webcam automatically, as a sort of facial log for this system - any idea what the best method of accomplishing this would be? I was hoping to just run a bash script, but that'd be tricky then
[18:03] <bazhang> paul_s, then the deb from virtualbox site is what you need
[18:03] <usser_> henrypainter, try switching inputs in tvtime, it defaults to coax, try setting it to composite1 or some such
[18:03] <blankhead> how do you sync ipod in rhythmbox?
[18:03] <paul_s> ok do i open or save it, does it matter even?
[18:04] <lonnix>  have a toshiba satellite with a realtek rtl8192e wireless card and I can't get it to find any wirless networks, and it won't even show the card, can anyone help?
[18:04] <usser_> wes32, oh should have said so, ffmpeg is capable of taking simple snapshots using /dev/video
[18:04] <usser_> wes32, so can mencoder
[18:04] <bazhang> paul_s, is it in fact a .deb file
[18:04] <paul_s> yes
[18:04] <wes32> usser_: well then!
[18:04] <paul_s> Ubuntu 9.04 ("Jaunty Jackalope") i386
[18:04] <bazhang> paul_s, then double click or choose gdebi should do it
[18:05] <paul_s> ok :)
[18:05] <wes32> usser_: I probably should've known that - time to man them up :) ty
[18:05] <usser_> wes32, from ffmpeg man page ffmpeg -f video4linux2 -i /dev/video0 /tmp/out.mpg
[18:06] <fccf> Neurolysis: a little out of my area of expertise, I only have limited knowledge of the subject matter
[18:06] <Neurolysis> fccf: ah well, thanks anyway :)
[18:07] <fccf> Neurolysis: have you seen this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedHomeFolder
[18:07] <paul_s> i have only1 gb ram, for now , how can i check my swap size? i did a default install, whole hard drive, ( i will be increasing my ram later on)
[18:07] <Neurolysis> nope, thanks. reading
[18:07] <bishop> lonnix had toshiba with same same wireless card.showed up right away. u might need new card...not sure
[18:07] <xarel> Hello can i ask my question here?
[18:08] <ikonia> xarel: go for it, if it's ubuntu related
[18:09] <Animagladius> Huhu.
[18:09] <paul_s> there is probably  a terminal command for checking my swap size?
[18:09] <xarel> yes; well i have installed ubuntu on my windows vista laptop, its ubuntu 9.0.4 or so, for amd 64, and the installation wizard made a new partition for me, it is 2.3 gb, and its 100% full with new data for Ubuntu, but i cant to manage to make this partition bigger
[18:09] <grawity> paul_s: swapon, free -m
[18:10] <paul_s> thx
[18:10] <ikonia> xarel: you need to boot from the install cd and use the partition manager to resize the disk
[18:10] <Mohammad[B]> problem with upstart during upgrading ubuntu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/290230/ HELP ME PLEASE :-s
[18:10] <grawity> paul_s: swapon -s, actually. -.-
[18:10] <paul_s> ok
[18:10] <azlon> ok, my raid just finished growing... now i need to do a ntfsresize
[18:11] <xarel> i have booted from install disk, or should i do so again? now ubuntu is installed?
[18:11] <ikonia> azlon: don't need a commentory
[18:11] <azlon> ikonia, im formulating a question....
[18:11] <ikonia> xarel: you need to boot from the ubuntu cd, as you can't resize a partition while it's in use.
[18:11] <xarel> rught
[18:11] <xarel> right* i will try so
[18:11] <paul_s> it says 2433808, that must equal 2g perhaps?
[18:11] <ikonia> xarel: make sense ?
[18:11] <xarel> thx
[18:12] <xarel> yes sure :P thx, cya
[18:12] <tushar7779> #Beginner
[18:13] <paul_s> could not open the file
[18:13] <bishop> hello tushar 7779
[18:13] <paul_s> corrupted or permission problem?
[18:13] <iGama> paul_s, what is the all message?
[18:14] <RanyAlbeg> amazing.
[18:14] <juls> test
[18:14] <iGama> paul_s, if file exists, most likely its permissions
[18:15] <juls> test
[18:15] <paul_s> i am redownloading it
[18:16] <steffan> paul_s: You might want to read !permissions if it happens a second time.
[18:16] <azlon> the man for ntfsresize says that if both --info and --size are omitted then the NTFS filesystem will be enlarged to the underlying device size. does this mean that if i have 5, 1TB HDDs in a RAID-5 then it will automatically resize it to 4TB?
[18:17] <ikonia> azlon: no, it will resize to the raid devices size
[18:17] <ikonia> eg: if your raid device is 4TB, but your file system is 3 - it will extend to 4tb
[18:17] <lonnix> have a toshiba satellite with a realtek rtl8192e wireless card and I can't get it to find any wirless networks, and it won't even show the card, can anyone help?
[18:18] <azlon> ikonia, ok, so if i want to maintain my raid-5 integrity then i need to ntfsresize the raid to 4TB using ntfsresize -s 4000G?
[18:18] <ikonia> azlon: has nothing to do with integrity, it will only extend to the size of the underlying meta device
[18:18] <steffan> !wireless > lonnix
[18:19] <paul_s> worked that time
[18:19] <steffan> paul_s: Great.
[18:20] <lonnix> steffan: what did you send me that for?
[18:20] <azlon> ikonia, ok so if i leave off all tags and just run ntfsresize on my /dev/md0 it will resize the RAID which is 5x1TB HDDs to 4TB. i just want to make sure before i run this
[18:20] <ikonia> azlon: it will resize it to the maximum size of the underlying meta device, it doesn't matter the disks size or numbers, it matters the meta devices size
[18:20] <azlon> hrmm
[18:21] <azlon> ikonia, what is meta device size? is that the size of all the HDDs?
[18:21] <paul_s> i cant see it on the menus
[18:21] <steffan> lonnix: Read the documentation on issues regarding wireless networking. Also, I searched Google and found solutions to using a RTL8192e wireless card with Ubuntu.
[18:21] <ikonia> azlon: the size of the raid device, not the individual disk size, the actual raid devices size
[18:21] <azlon> ikonia, basically i just grew a raid and now i want to fill in the space i just created so i can use all of it but i can only find tutorials on resize2fs
[18:22] <azlon> ikonia, ok... i get it now... just run ntfsresize /dev/md0... brb
[18:22] <ikonia> azlon: 1.) I don't trust any none-native disk tools, 2.) the meta disk is the virtual disk presented from the raid array, so that's the thing that matters
[18:22] <lonnix> steffan: which page did you find solutions on? cause I've tried what was presented via google, and nothing has worked
[18:23] <steffan> lonnix: Have you tried using NDISwrapper?
[18:23] <lonnix> steffan: currently trying to use that now, never used it before though so not making much progress
[18:23] <steffan> lonnix: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper will help.
[18:24] <Doonz> Hey Guys, trying to figure out how come my scripts dont run when there in my crontab. I can run them manually but when there in the crontab job list they wont run. 30 * * * * /home/media/scripts.sh   <-- thats my entry in crontab any ideas?
[18:24] <Out_Cold> so what if my wicd and cli net connection is totally fubared?? the wicd scripts return python errors and the ifconfig won't properly configure eth0
[18:24] <usser_> Doonz, loose .sh, cron doesnt like it
[18:24] <xarel> im back again, is the person who helped me still here?
[18:24] <usser_> *lose
[18:25] <ikonia> DaDa|Urka: that should run on the 30'th minute of every hour, is that what you expect
[18:25] <Doonz> usser_: so then 30 * * * * /home/media/script <-- like that
[18:25] <DaDa|Urka> ikonia: ?
[18:25] <ikonia> DaDa|Urka: sorry, typo
[18:25] <DaDa|Urka> k
[18:25] <Nitrohax> go watch it again. you'll figure it out
[18:25] <xarel> hello can some one help me?
[18:25] <ikonia> Doonz: that will run on the 30's minute of every hour, is that what you're expecting
[18:25] <ikonia> xarel: what now ?
[18:25] <steffan> !ask | xarel
[18:25] <xarel> plz :)
[18:25] <usser_> Doonz, yea dont forget to rename your actual script and make sure its executable with chmod +x /home/media/script
[18:26] <ikonia> Doonz: a shebang in the script is also helpful
[18:26] <steffan> Doonz: Does that work?
[18:26] <Aison> hello, is there some apt overlay for games? eg. openarena and such (would like to install the latest versions)
[18:26] <xarel> i want to use Gparted but i cant manage to resize my partition
[18:26] <ikonia> xarel: you're using gparted while running from the livecd ?
[18:26] <xarel> i am now running ubuntu from the cd
[18:26] <usser_> Doonz, #!/bin/bash or whatever scripting language you use as the very first line in script
[18:26] <xarel> yes
[18:26] <ikonia> xarel: ok - do you have free disk space ?
[18:26] <xarel> i have unalocated or so space
[18:27] <usser_> Aison, most of the games are available from getdeb.com
[18:27] <ikonia> xarel: can you take a screen shot of the disk image from gparted and put it online, it will make it quicker ?
[18:27] <usser_> Aison, getdeb.net sorry
[18:27] <steffan> Aison: 'sudo aptitude install openarena'
[18:27] <Doonz> ok my scripts run manuall when its ./script.sh I added within the script a output to log file so we shall see. i spead it up to 5 minut intervals for now
[18:27] <zack`> Question, I have 2 servers with seperate ssh keys. I want to log on using the same machine. Do i just cat id_rsa2 >> .ssh/id_rsa ?
[18:27] <Neurolysis> er... I dd'd an image a few days ago which was ~8mb, and now my disk shows up as /being/ 8mb in total. how do i fix this?
[18:27] <Aison> steffan, but this is an older version I noticed
[18:27] <xarel> well yes i can
[18:27] <xarel> but i dont know the program to save it, nor send it, im new in ubuntu
[18:28] <paul_s> it was supposedly installed the second time, it was not tho i guess , doing sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose as it suggested, am i going to be without usb now?
[18:28] <steffan> Aison: In that case, use the latest .deb.
[18:28] <isaac_copy> Help. I'm going nuts.
[18:28] <Neurolysis> isaac_copy: just ask, no need to ask to ask :P
[18:28] <ikonia> xarel: there is a screen shot in applications menu
[18:28] <isaac_copy> Thanks
[18:28] <ikonia> xarel: something like image shack is fine for sharing it
[18:28] <xarel> got it
[18:29] <zack`> although you might not always get an answer especially if you ask advanced questions >_>
[18:29] <isaac_copy> xinerama crashes my stuff.
[18:29] <xarel> image shack?
[18:29] <isaac_copy> I don't like crashes.
[18:29] <duffydack> zack`, or could just ssh-copy-id user@server
[18:29] <ikonia> xarel: yup
[18:29] <ikonia> !paste
[18:29] <xarel> i dunno that
[18:30] <isaac_copy> ssh-copy-id?
[18:30] <ikonia> xarel: look at that paste
[18:30] <drox_> Good night, somebody to know how to do to play my X-FI extreme audio on Ubuntu 9.10? thank's
[18:30] <ikonia> drox_: 9.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[18:30] <drox_> xscume for my english
[18:30] <duffydack> isaac_copy, its just a lazy way of doing it
[18:30] <duffydack> isaac_xinerama_p, , its just a lazy way of doing it
[18:30] <xarel> sorry what paste?
[18:31] <drox_> ok
[18:31] <drox_> thx
[18:31] <ikonia> !paste | xarel
[18:31] <Neurolysis> Anyone in here know about DD causing disks to become smaller? I dd'd an image onto a USB stick a few days back and now Windows shows the disk as being the size of the image :\
[18:31] <Neurolysis> is there something I have to do?
[18:31] <Royall> Does #ubuntu recommend just a full reinstalling or a dist upgrade for .10?
[18:31] <fabio_> ciao
[18:32] <ikonia> Neurolysis: if you're dd'ing a disk it will take the partition table of the disk the iamge was made from, which can make it "seem" smaller
[18:32] <Out_Cold> Royall, IMO i've noticed some things break during an upgrade..
[18:32] <ikonia> Royall: 9.10 support in #ubuntu+1 please
[18:32] <paul_s> ok in creating a virtual machine for xp that default ram of 192 mb seems small
[18:32] <Neurolysis> ikonia: how should i get it to recognise the full disk size again?
[18:32] <paul_s> i have 1 gb ram only  atm
[18:32] <ikonia> Neurolysis: you'd have to reparition it and re-write the partition table,
[18:32] <Neurolysis> ikonia: ...how would i do that? :|
[18:33]  * isaac_xinerama_p hopes this is the correct way of asking: Ok so I have 3 monitors. Twinview works great for 2. But when I enable the third it acts like a remote desktop. I have the latest drivers off the nvidia site. I'm on 9.04.  
[18:33] <paul_s> should i increase that vb xp ram size?
[18:33] <ikonia> Neurolysis: that's can be quite tricky,
[18:33] <ikonia> isaac_xinerama_p: twinview only supports two monitors, do you have 2 cards or 3 ports on one card
[18:33] <fccf> Royall: Karmic isn't ready yet ... Wait for it to mature, then upgrade
[18:33] <Royall> ah
[18:33] <xarel> http://imagebin.org/67007
[18:33] <steffan> Can I get views on RSA over DSA? I'm currently using DSA (and have been for the past 3 yeas, considering RSA).
[18:34] <isaac_xinerama_p> "ikonia> isaac_xinerama_p: twinview only supports two monitors, do you have 2 cards or 3 ports on one card" < I know.
[18:34] <ikonia> steffan: dsa is a later implimentation
[18:34] <ikonia> isaac_xinerama_p: you know what ?
[18:34] <tuxuser> hello...i came here for a help...my computer always get strucked for some  time.after an hour it resumes to normal state.plz help me to solve this problem
[18:34] <ikonia> xarel: which partition do you wnat to resize ?
[18:34] <steffan> ikonia: Is either or more secure, I know they are different algorithms?
[18:34] <ikonia> steffan: dsa is as I recall
[18:35] <paul_s> hmm , is it supposed to say virtual box OSE? what is ose?
[18:35] <steffan> ikonia: *nods*, Thank you.
[18:35] <ikonia> paul_s: open source edition
[18:35] <fccf> thxuser: what is happening when it locks up?
[18:35] <Neurolysis> ikonia: just been doing some reading, but i don't understand totally -- can 'gpart' guess the right partition table or something?
[18:35] <xarel> /dev/sda5  Ext3
[18:35] <ikonia> Neurolysis: it won't guess it, you need to re-write it
[18:35] <fccf> paul_s: ose = open source edition ... I have had better luck with the closed source personally
[18:36] <Neurolysis> ikonia: well, if i only want one partition that should be simple enough, right?
[18:36] <ikonia> xarel: you won't be able to do that, as sda5 is within an extended partition, and your spare space is outside of the extneded partition
[18:36] <Neurolysis> i know the size of the disk
[18:36] <ikonia> Neurolysis: try it - but take a backup
[18:36] <ikonia> Neurolysis: that's the price of using images, it takes the configuration of the image the machine was made on
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[18:36] <paul_s> i see
[18:36] <fccf> tuxuser: what I meant is what programs are running, when that happens?
[18:37] <isaac_xinerama_p> Just to be clear: no one here knows how  xinerama works for 3 monitors if it's causing a crash?
[18:37] <ikonia> isaac_xinerama_p: are you using two cards, or one card with 3 ports
[18:37] <xarel> cant i move the linux swap ( i think that is what the cd is using orso? so i cant to acces it)
[18:37] <isaac_xinerama_p> 2 cards
[18:38] <xarel> ow i guess not
[18:38] <ikonia> isaac_xinerama_p: ok, so that's where it's going to get tricky
[18:38] <isaac_xinerama_p> It is?
[18:38] <isaac_xinerama_p> :(
[18:38] <xarel> so i could install ubuntu on the part that is unallocated?
[18:38] <Doonz> usser_: when you said rename i should change the name of the script from script.sh to script <-- is that correct
[18:38] <Neurolysis> ikonia: i don't have anything on the disk i need to backup
[18:38] <tuxuser> fccf  it depends...its not focused to a particular program
[18:38] <xarel> and delete the other one
[18:38] <ikonia> isaac_xinerama_p: are they working as two cards, or as a sli type config
[18:38] <Neurolysis> i just want to use it again
[18:38] <ikonia> xarel: sure, good solution
[18:38] <fccf> xarel: if you open gparted and tell it to unmount the swap, you will be able to do what you want
[18:38] <isaac_xinerama_p> no sli
[18:38] <ikonia> fccf: no he won't
[18:39] <isaac_xinerama_p> and I can get them all to have their own desktop.
[18:39] <fbianconi> tuxuser: using privative drivers? ati, for instance?
[18:39] <fccf> ikonia: not here to fight, but I know for a fact that that will work
[18:39] <ikonia> isaac_xinerama_p: let me see if I can find the name of the extension this get's complicated
[18:39] <xarel> ok i will try it
[18:39] <xarel> thx
[18:39] <Mohammad[B]> problem with installing xserver-xorg in upgrading to ubuntu 9.10 please help meee http://paste.ubuntu.com/290254/
[18:39] <ikonia> fccf: he has no spare space in his exnteded partition, so unmounting swap won't let him grow his extended partitions partition
ya i have ati radeon xpress 200 onboard chipset
[18:40] <isaac_xinerama_p> ikonia Thanks. I've been going nuts on the ubuntu forums....
[18:40] <ikonia> isaac_xinerama_p: I've done this before long time ago and I know you're pain, the problem is splitting across two hardware devices
[18:40] <fccf> ikonia: if the swap is in the extended partition and he deletes the swap, he can resize the partitions within the extended partition and use the free space as swap
[18:41] <isaac_xinerama_p> it was so easy in xp
[18:41] <ikonia> fccf: whis swap is 200 meg - he wants more than 200 meg
[18:41] <isaac_xinerama_p> ubuntu is a better os. It should have no problem.
[18:41] <Der_Trolly> HEY FRESH UBUNTUS?!?!?!?
[18:41] <Mohammad[B]> problem with installing xserver-xorg in upgrading to ubuntu 9.10 please help meee http://paste.ubuntu.com/290254/
[18:41] <Mohammad[B]> :(
[18:41] <paul_s> this default ram 192, is thaT what the xp in vb will have as total memory?
[18:41] <fccf> ikonia: ok
hello  is there any problem with that chipset??
[18:42] <fbianconi> tuxuser: I used to have some issues with fglrx (on an HD3200), I solve this by downloading the drivers from ati site
[18:42] <paul_s> i need xp for the a couple graphics apps
[18:43] <paul_s> well since one is commenting i am doubling the ram :)
[18:43] <paul_s> sorry well since NO one is commenting i am doubling the ram :)
[18:44] <fccf> paul_s: If I could I would double my ram everyday
[18:44] <steffan> Is there a SSH command to transfer a local SSH key to a remote server's .ssh folder, and have the correct permissions set on that remote folder?
actually i heard that they have stopped  to develop drivers to my chipset in 9.04 ubuntu is that true??
[18:44] <grawity> steffan: ssh-copy-id maybe?
[18:44] <usser_> steffan, scp?
[18:44] <fccf> tuxuser: true
[18:44] <fccf> tuxuser: I have the same card
[18:45] <tuxuser> fccf :you dont have any problem with that card
[18:45] <Neurolysis> ikonia: it appears after all that gpart can actually guess at partitions :|
[18:45] <ikonia> Neurolysis: great news
[18:45] <Neurolysis> not really
[18:45] <azlon> ikonia, resized worked like a charm... i had nothing to be stressed about. thanks for answering my annoying questions!
[18:45] <Neurolysis> it just says 'guessed 7mb'
[18:45] <fccf> tuxuser: not the card spacifically .. my machine won't run ubuntu natively, so I run ubuntu in Vbox
[18:46] <ikonia> azlon: cool
[18:46] <fccf> tuxuser: actually running Win 7 as the host OS
[18:46] <steffan> usser_: scp creates the remote folder and sets the relevant permissions on the folder and SSH key file too?
[18:46] <paul_s> can someone help me with that ram setting? 1gb of actual ram , want xp in a vb for some graphics/music apps, how much is too much ram of my 1gb for this vb?
[18:47] <Neurolysis> ikonia: how would i go about manually creating a partition table for it to write? it does have a -b switch to restore a backup, but i don't have one
[18:47] <fbianconi> tuxuser: I don't know, but take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98698 and good luck
[18:47] <ikonia> Neurolysis: honestly, I've never thought about that, you could dd it off
[18:47] <paul_s> oh and i have 2 gb swap
[18:47] <fccf> paul_s: no more than half, at least that is what Virtualbox reccommends
[18:47] <Neurolysis> ikonia: yeah but the issue is at this point in time i'm stuck with the 7mb table
[18:48] <paul_s> they say 192 so 512? :)
[18:48] <paul_s> it is only used when i am in vb anyway right?
[18:48] <Neurolysis> yes, but the kernel will really be wanting that other 512
[18:48] <Neurolysis> and other apps
[18:48] <paul_s> i'll close everything else when using vbox i guess
[18:49] <Jakes> http://thewebmonkey.wordpress.com/ Yesterday some ppl told me dat we can share files by a mere right click. I still believe u need to edit smb.conf first .I have wriiten abt it on ma blog http://thewebmonkey.wordpress.com/ .. Am I wrong??
[18:49] <fccf> paul_s: only used when the vb is running, and XP runs ok in 512mb ram
[18:49] <paul_s> cool
[18:49] <Neurolysis> Jakes: please don't spam, this is a support channel
[18:49] <paul_s> thx again
[18:50] <Jakes> Neurolysis I dont intend to spam
[18:50] <Jakes> Atlst clear ma doubt.. Den I go out
Thank you .Let me check
[18:50] <fccf> Jakes: that config would be sharing anything that is mounted in /media
[18:50] <tuxuser> fccf :can you please tell me your system config??
[18:51] <natschil> Jakes: I think a right click edits smb.conf and shares the affected files.
[18:51] <steffan> Will scp set the correct permissions on the folder and files when transfering SSH keys to a remote location?
[18:51] <azlon> i just downloaded the tar for firefox, where do i extract it?
[18:51] <raven_> hi - what is the way in linux/ubuntu to cut a video using parallel recorded video-files from several cameras?
[18:51] <LtWorf> hello
[18:52] <fccf> tuxuser: windows 7 32bit installed on a Fujitsu A3040 w/ 1.5gigs ram AMD Turon x64 processor ... Virtualbox Closed Source edition running Ubuntu Hardy 32bit using 512mb ram for the Virtualbox
[18:52] <Jakes> Wen i try it by right click I got de error net usershare' returned error 255: .. I want to share windows partitions.. Is dat de reason
[18:53] <LtWorf> i am having trouble in finding out how to request the insertion of a software already present in debian, within ubuntu universe repository
[18:53] <fccf> LtWorf: what package?
[18:53] <LtWorf> fccf: weborf
[18:54] <tuxuser> fccf:have you ever faced problem in your ubuntu system
[18:55] <javatexan> anyone using sbackup for backups?
[18:55] <shane2peru> 64 or 32?  That is the question?
[18:55] <fccf> tuxuser: nope
[18:55] <grawity> shane2peru: 36
[18:56] <shane2peru> grawity: that isn't half way between, so I will take it you are leaning more towards the 32
[18:56] <th0r> autoupdate just updated vlc to version 1.02, which crashes when I try to use Service Discovery. I want to back up to version 0.99, which is in the repos, but am having problems getting the old libs installed. Is there a fix for 1.02 or an easy way to back up to 0.99?
[18:56] <xarel> can i ask some more? i trying to reinstall ubuntu to a new partition
[18:57] <fccf> LtWorf: installing packages from debian repositories, and more spacifically adding debian repositories to your sources.list is really not reccommended and will break your system , however there may be a way to install what you want without breaking anything, But remember it is not supported officially here
[18:57] <shane2peru> xarel: and what happened?  Can you explain a little more?
[18:57] <LtWorf> fccf: no i meant something else... i am the debian mantainer and i'd like the package to be added to ubuntu's repositories
[18:58] <xarel> hello, can someone help me plz
[18:58] <fccf> LtWorf: oh ok, ... you need to go talk to the guys in #ubuntu-motu ... tell them you have a package you would like to see included and that you are the maintainer
[18:58] <LtWorf> fccf: thanks
[18:59] <^rumput_kering^> friends, why my pidgin can't login since yesterday?
[18:59] <shane2peru> xarel: you have to ask a question before we can help you.  You said you tried installing to a new partition, and?  What happened?  It didn't work?  it crashed?
[18:59] <grawity> ^rumput_kering^: Login to where exactly? MSN? Google Talk?
[18:59] <Barnabas> ^rumput_kering^, on what protocol
[19:00] <shane2peru> !pm | xarel
[19:00] <^rumput_kering^> grawity, yahoo!
[19:01] <alexander> ladies and gentlemen, my nerd rating just went up 2 points.  I am now running WoW using Wine in 9.04... AND my FPS are higher than when running Windows.
[19:01] <xarel> i have installed ubuntu already, and its working fine
[19:01] <xarel>  but the partition size is to small
[19:01] <xarel>  now i want to install ubuntu again, on other free space but i dont know which type of partition i have to make in the installer
[19:01] <fccf> !yahoo | ^rumput_kering^
[19:01] <grawity> ^rumput_kering^: Which version of Pidgin are you using?
[19:01] <Doonz> hey guys im having a helluva time trying to get a simple cron job to run, all relevant info is on the pastebin. http://pastebin.com/ma1ca7c0 thanx for trying to help me
[19:01] <tuxuser> fccf :can you plz suggest me how to solve this problem
[19:02] <varmont> try to download karmic koala
[19:02] <^rumput_kering^> ubottu, i was change it about 3 months ago and it's works. but yesterday I can't use it again
[19:02] <^rumput_kering^> grawity, pidgin 2.5.2
[19:02] <varmont> ada orang indonesia Gak sih
[19:02] <grawity> ^rumput_kering^: Try updating to 2.6.2 - http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[19:02] <varmont> ada orang indonesia Gak sih
[19:02] <shane2peru> xarel: are you dual booting?  or is the computer dedicated to Linux?  Also how much disk space do you have?
[19:02] <bazhang> !id | varmont
[19:02] <tuxuser> fccf:I just became mad due to this horrible problem
[19:03] <^rumput_kering^> varmont, ssst... dilarang pake bahasa indonesia
[19:03] <varmont> kenapa
[19:03] <^rumput_kering^> varmont, it's english room
[19:03] <tuxuser> fccf:same thing with 8.04,and 8.10
[19:03] <varmont> biasa ae poo`o
[19:03] <DigiAngel> Sup all
[19:03] <usser__> Doonz, that script runs on the 1st minute of every hour :)
[19:04] <fccf> tuxuser: I learned from my mistake, Don't buy unsupported hardware, that is why I am running Win 7 .. If ubuntu would run natively and do what I wanted it to do on this machine I'd happily do it, ... although there might be a fix for your card ... you would have to look around the forums
[19:04] <DigiAngel> Quick question
[19:04] <fccf> DigiAngel: fire away
[19:04] <DigiAngel> Been trying to find a good media player...one that is server based, and that will play music on the server and be controled by clients
[19:04] <grawity> DigiAngel: mpd. Exactly as you described
[19:04] <DigiAngel> Hehe...I'm on that page right now ;)
[19:04] <fccf> !info mpd | DigiAngel
[19:05] <^rumput_kering^> grawity, have a solution with my problem?
[19:05] <DigiAngel> So that should do me eh?  I'll give it a whirl....thanks grawity and fccf
[19:05] <grawity> ^rumput_kering^: Try updating to 2.6.2 - http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[19:05] <tuxuser> fccf:if i install ubuntu using vbox in xp ..is that will be fine
[19:05] <grawity> DigiAngel: For a client - sonata, gmpc, ario, ncmpc.
[19:05] <ddo> Need help on ubuntu :(
[19:05] <pjustice13> I need help with configuring the wireless card
[19:05] <tuxuser> fccf:but i have only 1.4 gb ram
[19:06] <DigiAngel> ah...the client is the sticky part...got OS x running everywhere else :D
[19:06] <fccf> tuxuser: it should run on that much ram
[19:06] <Draught> Please, help me to win in a competition, all that you need to do it registered to address - ( http://vk.com/reg14569713 ) is the analogue of Facebook. Help me and in the future will help and to you!
[19:06] <Draught> Please, help me to win in a competition, all that you need to do it registered to address - ( http://vk.com/reg14569713 ) is the analogue of Facebook. Help me and in the future will help and to you!
[19:06] <DigiAngel> Installing now
[19:06] <pjustice13> I need help configuring the wireless card
[19:06] <ddo> how can i install my GeForce 5200 graphic card can anyone help me on it ?
[19:07] <tuxuser> fccf:will you please tell me how to run v box ..i never ever user that software
[19:07] <daf999> Hi all, I have two screens, but without xinerama, its really annoying that the mouse always moves to the other screen when I reach the threshold.. is there a way to force the mouse to stay in one screen?
[19:07] <ddelrio1986> yay! Flannel saves the day
[19:07] <|Draught|> Please, help me to win in a competition, all that you need to do it registered to address - ( http://vk.com/reg14569713 ) is the analogue of Facebook. Help me and in the future will help and to you!
[19:07] <pjustice13> WIRELESS????????
[19:07] <Flannel> oh, damnit
[19:07] <r0b0tchicken> Geforce 6200.   ubuntu 9.04.   cannot get my tv to pick up the signal, the card splits out to a cord that goes component or svideo, i have it hooked svideo into the tv.    cant get anything on tv.  i have looked on the forums, followed along with some steps in the xorg.conf, but still cant get this thing working. anyone familiar?
[19:07] <ddelrio1986> wow he came back
[19:07] <usser> hehe
[19:07] <grawity> My spacebar isstillbroken:(
[19:07] <alexander> most GeForce chipsets have a binary driver you can pick up in synaptic : ddo
[19:07] <pjustice13> HELP???? wIRELESS?????
[19:07] <tomy222> Hello! The Distribution Upgrade hang on file 1022 of 1023! Upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04! What I should do?
[19:07] <mwojciec> hello everyone
[19:08] <fccf> tuxuser: virtualbox is available here ... http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads install it and use it to install ubuntu
[19:08] <ddo> need helpppp
[19:08] <pjustice13> Can someone help me please
[19:08] <fccf> tuxuser: for more installation help on virtualbox .. goto #vbox channel
[19:08] <mwojciec> I use Ubuntu 6.22, could someone tell mi how to install Opera browser?
[19:08] <tuxuser> fccf:thank u very much
[19:09] <bazhang> mwojciec, there is no 6.22
[19:09] <LjL> pjustice13: SCREAMING won't find you people to help. rather, explain your problem.
[19:09] <jbuncher> mwojciec, there is no 6.22
[19:09] <alexander> w:D
[19:09] <alexander> lol
[19:09] <ddo> nneeeddddd helppppp
[19:09] <fccf> !ask |ddo
[19:09] <bazhang> ddo, then ask a question
[19:09] <jbuncher> ddo : just ask the question.
[19:09] <pjustice13> I can't configure the wireless card. It doesn't recognize I have a wireless card.
[19:09] <mwojciec> wait a sec. I must check version...;)
[19:10] <bazhang> pjustice13, check the chipset with lspci in terminal (if its pci) or lsusb if usb
[19:10] <fccf> mwojciec: lsb_release -a .. in your terminal will tell you details on your system
[19:10] <grawity> bazhang: he _did_ ask.
[19:11] <mwojciec> Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft
[19:11] <bazhang> ddo, check in hardware drivers
[19:11] <fccf> !eol | mwojciec
[19:11] <entilzha> Hi guys, I'm having a problem with my DNS. I can do things such as apt-get but ping www.google.com gives unknown host. Any pointers where I should start looking?
[19:11] <ddo> need help on version 7.04 ubuntu i have problem with graphic card pls help
[19:11] <bazhang> mwojciec, that is no longer supported, you need to get a more recent version
[19:11] <pjustice13> ok I'll check now, thanks
[19:11] <dermot> I have recently installed Ubuntu and can not fond a new sound driver.
[19:11] <mwojciec> ok
[19:11] <pjustice13> Thanks bazhang
[19:11] <fccf> mwojciec: gunna be a process getting you back ... but possible, your system is not able to install anything because of that
[19:11] <jbuncher> ddo : 704 is eol, and no longer supported.
[19:12] <DigiAngel> Hrmm....have to figure out how mpd can drill down in dirs
[19:12] <dermot> i am useing an ac link audio card
[19:12] <bazhang> ddo, that version is also end of life; you need to upgrade to a more recent version
[19:12] <mwojciec> but I install it on very old machine like PII 350 MHz... ;)
[19:12] <pjustice13> It says PCI
[19:12] <alexander> entilzha: does the same hardware and connection give you internet access with another OS?
[19:12] <javatexan> sbackup keeps failing on the backup...all i get is a defunct process....does that mean it failed or is it just thinking really hard?
[19:12] <ddo> with what version ?
[19:12] <bazhang> pjustice13, please tell us the exact chipset
[19:12] <fccf> mwojciec: yeah but you cannot update because you have the wrong repos
[19:13] <entilzha> alexander: I'm on somewhat exotic hardware, Sheevaplug which runs a modified ARM version of Ubuntu. Everything is running fine though
[19:13] <dermot> Sys info says its an ATI tech chip set
[19:13] <kraito> how does the button layout work ?
[19:13] <grawity> DigiAngel: Have you already installed a client?
[19:13] <pjustice13> What does it look like? Which line am I looking for?
[19:13] <fccf> mwojciec: change every instance of archive.ubuntu.com to old-releases.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list , so you can update
[19:13] <DigiAngel> Ya....on my mac here...some java app that seems to be working (bonus)
[19:13] <tomy222> The Distribution Upgrade hang on file 1022 of 1023 yet for 1 hour! Upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04! What I should do? Cancel the Operation or exist a other resolution?
[19:13] <pagoda> i have a widescreen monitor, but i only have three resolutions available and they're all 4:3.  how can i get 1440 back?
[19:13] <bazhang> pjustice13, you could just paste.ubuntu.com with the output and give us the url
[19:13] <javatexan> ddo: whatever version is in synaptic
[19:13] <mwojciec> ok
[19:14] <and_then> my sudo password isn't working. I know what it is but it's not going through. What can I do. I can
[19:14] <ddo> which version should I install i m new on ubuntu :/
[19:14] <jbuncher> tomy222, I think I had that happen to.  I just cancelled and tried again, worked fine.  It's hanging on the download, right?
[19:14] <bazhang> ddo, try a live cd of 9.04
[19:14] <grawity> ddo: the latest, of course.
[19:14] <and_then> my sudo password isn't working. I know what it is but it's not going through. What can I do. I can't restart the computer because I'm on it and it's my only one.
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> s ddo  the beta of 9.10 is having issues :) so stick with 9.04 for now
[19:14] <ddo> kk ty soo much :)
[19:14] <jbuncher> Dr_Willis, what issues?
[19:14] <bazhang> and_then, what do you mean by not working
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> jbuncher:  too many to mention. :)
[19:14] <natschil> and_then: start up in safe mode, get into a terminal type su - <name of your username here>  and then type passwd.
[19:15] <r0b0tchicken> what is the latest STABLE kernel for 9.04? im on 2.6.28-15
[19:15] <tomy222> jbuncher: yes it s hanging on getting new packages. Ok I try again.
[19:15] <pjustice13> bazhang, http://paste.ubuntu.com/290275/
[19:15] <jbuncher> Dr_Willis, I'm curious because I'm running the beta and it's been quite smooth so far.
[19:15] <and_then> bazhang, not being accepted
[19:16] <and_then> natschil, how do you get into safe mode?
[19:16] <bazhang> 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) it would be that pjustice13 ; did you see something in hardware drivers for it? (assuming you are on Jaunty)
[19:16] <Doonz> usser: how would i make it so it ran every minute?
[19:17] <fccf> r0b0tchicken:  2.6.28.15.20 is what ubottu gave me for linux-image .. that is the generic kernel'
[19:17] <grawity> and_then: reboot, choose "Recovery mode"
[19:17] <pjustice13> no I haven't looked at that. Where should I go?
[19:17] <javatexan> sbackup is dead, eh, last new files > year ago
[19:17] <mwojciec> ok, and where I can shutdown all graphic add-ons like windows animations and others
[19:17] <bazhang> pjustice13, system administration hardware drivers
[19:17] <DigiAngel> Nice...workin well :)
[19:18] <DigiAngel> Thanks all....now if I can just get VPN going 8-|
[19:18] <DigiAngel> This is running on a mac mini....blew off that horrid OS X Server 8-|
[19:18] <pjustice13> bazhang, looking now.
[19:18] <fccf> mwojciec: need more details, that and that version is not supported, so frankly I wouldn't remember, it was 3 years ago, ya know
[19:18] <bazhang> mwojciec, appearances visual effects set to none
[19:18] <and_then> sudo <username> <password> or sudo <username> passwd ?
[19:18] <mwojciec> ok, thanks :)
[19:19] <and_then> oops i meant su-
[19:19] <usser> Doonz, * * * * * /command
[19:19] <Doonz> ok
[19:19] <fccf> DigiAngel: Glad you decided to put a real OS on your MAC, Congratz
[19:19] <Doonz> let me see if i got it working brb
[19:19] <javatexan> are there any simple backups built on rsync that aren't dead projects...hehe
[19:20] <entilzha> Hi guys, I'm having a problem with my DNS. I can do things such as apt-get install but ping www.google.com gives unknown host. Any pointers where I should start looking?
[19:20] <pjustice13> bazhang, I have a alternate atheros "madwifi" driver, and it is activated
[19:20] <LordDarth> Mac keyboards are nice though fccf, im thinking of getting one for this PC
[19:20] <DigiAngel> NO JOKE....just couldn't justify $500 for a gui wrapped around (outdated) open source software ;)
[19:20] <Doonz> entilzha: are you behind a router?
[19:20] <entilzha> Doonz: yes
[19:21] <bazhang> pjustice13, and when you type iconfig in the terminal do you see eth0 lo and ath0 ?
[19:21] <fccf> LordDarth: I grew up on PC KB's and the flat keys drive me nuts
[19:21] <Doonz> entilzha: does your ip address use the router as the gateway?
[19:21] <and_then> natschil are you still here
[19:21] <natschil> and_then: I am.
[19:21] <entilzha> Doonz: How would I see that? The machine in queestion is 192.168.2.3 and router is 192.168.2.254
[19:22] <karname> hi , how can me set Iptable to restrict number of connection per sec and min from one ip to my server?
[19:22] <pjustice13> bazhang, it says the command "iconfig" is not a command
[19:22] <guntbert> and_then: don't use su, use sudo /gksudo
[19:22] <and_then> natschil, type "su- <username> <password>: or "su- <username> passwd"?
[19:22] <bazhang> pjustice13, ifconfig
[19:22] <pjustice13> sorry thanks
[19:22] <bazhang> pjustice13, my mistake
[19:22] <grawity> and_then: None of these commands are valid
[19:22] <Doonz> entilzha: open terminal and type; ifconfig
[19:23] <natschil> and_then: btw, how did your sudo password stop working?
[19:23] <guntbert> and_then: just type sudo <command> and then you are asked for *your* password
[19:23] <Doonz> usser: my script isnt excuting
[19:23] <and_then> what? I'm confused.
[19:23] <pjustice13> bazhang, it shows etho and lo, but no atheo
[19:23] <grawity> and_then: su username -c passwd, would.
[19:23] <DigiAngel> Welp...enjoy the day all...off to see if I can get a better client running ;)
[19:23] <entilzha> Doonz: What would I be looking for in there?
[19:23] <DigiAngel> Thanks again for the assist :)
[19:23] <Doonz> i look in /var/log/syslog and it shows that it tries to run the command but nothing happens
[19:23] <pjustice13> sorry ath0
[19:23] <grawity> and_then: or, wait.
[19:23] <grawity> and_then: passwd <username>
[19:23] <Doonz> entilzha: that the gateway is set to your router
[19:23] <usser> Doonz, oh sorry reread your pastebin. rename the script from test.sh to test
[19:24] <Doonz> so the actual file needs to be renamed?
[19:24] <entilzha> Doonz: It doesnt mention any gateway
[19:24] <usser> Doonz, yea.
[19:24] <Doonz> ok 1 sec
[19:24] <and_then> what do I do??
[19:24] <entilzha> UP, RUNNING, BROADCAST, MULTICAST
[19:24] <entilzha> Link encap:Ethernet
[19:24] <grawity> and_then: passwd your-username-here
[19:24] <natschil> and_then: you could answer my question.... how did the password stop working?
[19:25] <Doonz> entilzha: can you post all the output into a pastebin for me
[19:25] <Doonz> !pastebin
[19:25] <entilzha> ow
[19:25] <entilzha> I'll try
[19:25] <and_then> grawity, where?
[19:25] <CppAlt> Hey guys, i just installed Ubuntu :-) my first ever OS other than windows
[19:25] <pjustice13> Bazhang, no ath0
[19:25] <entilzha> Hope that works over ssh
[19:25] <CppAlt> adn ym fi4rst question is......... can i run .exe files?
[19:25] <alexander> grats CppAlt !!!
[19:25] <and_then> literally type "passwd"?
[19:26] <karname> I run apache server in debian , after 3 mins of startup apache eat all of cpu , I checked my scripts and they haven't any bug , can anyone had this problem ?
[19:26] <grawity> and_then: passwd, a space, then your username, then Enter.
[19:26] <CppAlt> i did it to get into the hacking scene :-) i know c++ php mysql css and html :-)
[19:26] <Doonz> usser: how would i make something run every 5 minutes?
[19:26] <bazhang> pjustice13, just checking the documents hang on a second
[19:26] <entilzha> Doonz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/290278/
[19:26] <natschil> and_then: I'm just a little concerned that this really *is* your computer and that you aren't trying to get into another computer, so please excuse my curiousity.
[19:26] <Pengyduckwin> does anybody know how if SaX2 works in ubuntu (not kubuntu)?
[19:26] <pjustice13> bazhang, thanks
[19:26] <alexander> CppAlt: they won't run natively.  However, if you load WINE (can be found by searching in add/remove programs from your applications menu, you'll be able to run an exe prog.
[19:26] <mostafa_> erUSUL: u there?
[19:26] <javatexan> where do you make suggestions for ubuntu?
[19:27] <grawity> CppAlt: Ubuntu is Linux, not Windows, so you cannot run Windows programs directly, but there's an app called WINE that lets you dothat.
[19:27] <usser> Doonz, */5 * * * * command
[19:27] <noobula> Completely off topic:Any eletrical engineers here? I have a broken LCD that I have forced to work again (I disconnected all the fault management inputs from the chip.) What is the worst thing that can happen? (the cracked part of the screen is making a bit of noise and smells...)
[19:27] <Doonz> usser thanx
[19:27] <MK13> karname, maybe that question would be better asked in #debian or #apache ?
[19:27] <CppAlt> alexander, then where do i get all my programs from?, this client is run using windows, linux is only on a VM
[19:27] <Doonz> entilzha: ifconfig eth0
[19:27] <Doonz> and post that info
[19:27] <and_then> grawity, where do you type this?
[19:27] <grawity> and_then: Recovery mode
[19:27] <karname> MK13 : I asked them , but they don't asnwer me
[19:27] <kcsrnd> noobula:  try ##electronics
[19:28] <bazhang> linux-backports-modules-jaunty should be the package to install pjustice13 to get that working
[19:28] <Pengyduckwin> noobula: if it smells, it's probably burning. Is the crack really hot to the touch?
[19:28] <usser> Pengyduckwin, sax is a suse-only tool as far as i know
[19:28] <and_then> this isn't some joke to get me locked out of my computer is it?
[19:28] <alexander> CppAlt: apt-get is the package manager for ubuntu and other debian based distros, thousands and thousands of packages are available
[19:28] <entilzha> Doonz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/290283/
[19:28] <grawity> CppAlt: What programs?
[19:28] <alexander> or what do you mean by "where do I get all my programs" ?
[19:29] <alexander> like grawity said
[19:29] <noobula> I haven't dared run the monitor for a long time and haven't checked the temperature, thanks for point to other channel. :D
[19:29] <CppAlt> alexander, and where is this "apt-get"
[19:29] <Guest84882> Hi. I'm having probelms booting. I get a "No kernel modesetting driver detected" error.
[19:29] <Pengyduckwin> usser:thanks, does anybody know how to configure fglrx from the command line after install?
[19:29] <Guest84882> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8081020 suggests I need to revert to an older version of xserver-xorg-video-intel or follow the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting
[19:29] <Guest84882> But I don't really understand how to do either of those. Any help please?
[19:29] <MK13> karname then try #ubuntu-server they will know more about server applications, even though maybe not strictly debian issues
[19:29] <usser> Pengyduckwin, fglrx has aticonfig tool
[19:29] <usser> Pengyduckwin, aticonfig --help
[19:29] <grawity> CppAlt: In Ubuntu, most applications are installed using a "package manager" - either apt-get in Terminal, or Synaptic in GUI.
[19:29] <Madcamper> question, how do you get the wireless connection icon in the panel?
[19:29] <alexander> well, you'd invoke apt-get from command line, but if you're just getting feet wet, I'd use the synaptic graphical front end or just use Add/Remove programs
[19:30] <pjustice13> bazhang, thank you very much, I will try that
[19:30] <usser> Pengyduckwin, aticonfig --initial should set up a basic configuration
[19:30] <CppAlt> i dont know any terminal commands, alexander
[19:30] <mostafa_>  anyone can help me with how to make this file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/290286/ via diff command (actually this patch files grouply)
[19:30] <Pengyduckwin> usser: thanks, i'll try that
[19:30] <mostafa_> erUSUL:  anyone can help me with how to make this file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/290286/ via diff command (actually this patch files grouply)
[19:30] <alexander> CppAlt: hit applications in the upper left, then you should see Add/Remove... as the last choice
[19:30] <and_then> can anyone confirm passwd <username> at the recovery mode prompt as a good command?
[19:30] <alexander> if this is a fresh ubuntu 9 install
[19:30] <grawity> and_then: yes.
[19:30] <usser> and_then, that command will effectively change the password of <username> thats all it does.
[19:31] <grawity> mostafa_: diff -u ns-allinone-2.29/ns-2.29/apps/udp.cc ns-allinone-2.29-mannasim/ns-2.29/apps/udp.c
[19:31] <alexander> and_then: yup
[19:31] <and_then> without having to enter the old one?
[19:31] <grawity> mostafa_: Or, to reverse, 'patch'
[19:31] <grawity> and_then: yes.
[19:31] <CppAlt> what IRC client should i use for Ubuntu
[19:31] <usser> CppAlt, Xchat
[19:31] <mostafa_> grawity: then it just make a file for correcting just one file
[19:32] <grawity> CppAlt: Xchat, irssi, Konversation. WeeChat,
[19:32] <mostafa_> grawity: how to make all at once
[19:32] <wes32> usser: thanks for the help earlier. ffmpeg and mplayer both are able to communicate with my webcam, but neither seem to be able to use the photo function of it (merely the video function, with lower max resolution) - any further ideas on what might work?
[19:32] <steffan> !irc > CppAlt
[19:32] <grawity> mostafa_: diff -u directory/ otherdirectory/
[19:32] <entilzha> Doonz: Did you get that link? http://paste.ubuntu.com/290283/
[19:32] <steffan> There are more than a handful IRC clients. :)
[19:32] <grawity> mostafa_: also, these are called "patches".
[19:32] <tv7497> hello folks ! well i have a lappy of my father ! is there a way can i transfer files from his lappy to my pc using some kinda cable !
[19:33] <Doonz> entilzha: 1 sec wife buggin
[19:33] <mostafa_> grawity: ok thnx let me check it
[19:33] <entilzha> Doonz: Sure thing! Thx for the helps!
[19:33] <kcsrnd> tv7497:  crossover cable
[19:34] <tv7497> kcsrnd: you mean the cable that you use to connect to your router ? correct me if i am wrong
[19:34] <grawity> kcsrnd: not necessarily crossover - most new NICs can use normal ones.
[19:34] <CppAlt> lets see how this ubuntu chat works
[19:34] <Doonz> entilzha: sorry about that, im not really sure howto see what the gateway is, do you have a gui set up on it or is it headless?
[19:34] <CppAlt> ooh
[19:34] <kcsrnd> grawity: didn't know that
[19:35] <Josh_> Hazzit
[19:35] <Josh_> its CppAlt
[19:35] <kcsrnd> tv7497:  yeah a crossover cable is the same type of cable, it's just wired differently
[19:35] <mostafa_> grawity: they are in the same root directory you mean I should do in this way = diff -u /ns-allinone-2.29 /ns-allinone-2.29-mannasim
[19:35] <mostafa_> grawity: right?
[19:35] <cfedde> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y04IFYBjKx0  old but fun.
[19:35] <Josh_> Mirc is much better :-p
[19:35] <kcsrnd> tv7497:  but apparently, with newer nics you can use a regular cable
[19:35] <bazhang> cfedde, dont paste that here
[19:35] <tomy222> jbuncher: Now I have tried to restart the upgrade, but now came the error that could not download the upgrades. What I can do?
[19:35] <entilzha> Doonz: It's a plug computer, only connection I have to it at the moment is ssh over ethernet..
[19:36] <Ledif-Nieht> I have an old HP Pavilion laptop (ze5700) that I installed Ubuntu Desktop 9.04 on. I was trying to get everything running properly and I was having some video lag so I download the ATI X.org drivers from the Synaptics Package Manager. After I restart the computer I can see some text output then the screen looks all garbled. How can I undo what I did?
[19:36] <PCTeacher012> Hi all, how do i make a seperate partition for /home? I am currently in ubuntu from my hard drive. Do i need to reboot into the LIVE CD so i can have the hard drive not mounted?
[19:36] <bazhang> !home | PCTeacher012
[19:36] <tv7497> kcsrnd: well now whats should i do ? connect the lappy and my system using this cable and ? please guide me
[19:36] <tv7497> and hello bazhang how are you sir ?
[19:36] <Teletub_> hello
[19:36] <bazhang> hi tv7497
[19:37] <grawity> tv7497: Configure IP addresses on both systems.
[19:37] <PCTeacher012> bazhang: Thank you very much
[19:37] <thomas__> anyone know how to set up a file sharing folder in Win7 for VirtualBox?
[19:37] <Doonz> entilzha: sorry bud i was hoping i could help but im very much a noobie myself
[19:37] <Doonz> re-ask your question and hopefully someone can help you
[19:38] <Josh_> I was hoping to learn how to use ubuntu properly, the programmers way :-) Any good tutorials?
[19:38] <tv7497> grawity: how do i do it ? totally confused !
[19:38] <entilzha> Doonz: Thanx anyway man! I have some new inspiration to hit Google first
[19:39] <Doonz> sorry again
[19:39] <kcsrnd> tv7497:  what OSes are you running?
[19:39] <tv7497> thomas__: ubuntu 9.04 on my pc and xp on lappy
[19:39] <alexander> Ledif-Nieht: i'm afraid i did that a few too many times myself.  Way I fixed it was to boot into cli and manually restore a backed up xorg.conf that works
[19:40] <mostafa_> grawity: are you there?
[19:40] <Ledif-Nieht> alexander: Thanks for the tip, unfortunately I don't have a backup of my xorg.con (probably should have done that).
[19:40] <tv7497> thomas__: pretty easy ! well have you installed the guest additions ?
[19:41] <thomas__> tv7497: I need to run a Win OS within 9.04 using VirtualBox
[19:41] <alexander> Ledif-Nieht: really?  I didn't personally make a backup either.  I just went into /etc/X11/ and found a few made.
[19:41] <thomas__> have guest additions installed
[19:41] <mostafa_>  anyone can help me with how to make this file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/290286/ via diff command (actually this patch files grouply)
[19:42] <kcsrnd> tv7497:  under ubuntu go to system -> preferences -> network connections  .  under wired select the interface you're using, "edit", go to ipv4 settings enter 192.168.1.100 as IP.    on xp machine go right click on network neighborhood, go into tcp/ip, change ip address to 192.168.1.101    ..  both netmasks 255.255.255.0
[19:42] <Ledif-Nieht> alexander: Ok, I am in the recovery mode now (as root), I am going to browse to that directory and see what I can see..
[19:42] <iceroot> thomas__: #vbox   also ##windows
[19:43] <tv7497> thomas__: wow then there would be a folder icon at the bottom select the folder you wanna share ! and inside windows use MAP drive option by right clicking option and //vboxsrv/(your folder name ) ! forgive me i am confused with back and forward slash
[19:43] <kcsrnd> you'll probably need samba on your ubuntu machine if you want to use the windows filesharing system
[19:43] <thomas__> iceroot: no one on vbox
[19:43] <Josh_> Damn, Ubuntu is running incredibly slow on my XP
[19:43] <iceroot> mostafa_: diff first-file second-file > your-patch-file
[19:43] <iceroot> thomas__: but this is ubuntu-support
[19:43] <tv7497> kcsrnd: this is after manually connecting them using cross over cable ?
[19:44] <kcsrnd> tv7497: yes
[19:44] <guntbert> thomas__: there are 200 in #vbox
[19:44] <mostafa_> iceroot: as you see there it patches the commands grouply
[19:44] <tv7497> guntbert: lol !
[19:44] <paul_s>  i got xp installed in a vbox now and no usb, and two problems in dev mgr
[19:44] <mostafa_> iceroot: you know what I mean?
[19:45] <iceroot> mostafa_: no i only looked  1 second at your pastebin and saw its a normal diff-result
[19:45] <iceroot> paul_s: only vbox-non-free has usb-support
[19:45] <guntbert> paul_s: ask in ##vbox please
[19:45] <mostafa_> iceroot: the command U said just make a patch file just for correcting one file
[19:45] <paul_s> ok
[19:45] <tv7497> tv7497: should i install samba before i carry on these things ?
[19:45] <grawity> tv7497: Yes.
[19:45] <n3o> Hey guys my front jack is not working in ubuntu.
[19:45] <n3o> can anybody help me ?
[19:46] <mostafa_> iceroot: but in the file I sent it do this for about three files
[19:46] <iceroot> mostafa_: then use more diff-commands and add them to the patch
[19:46] <thomas__> tv7497: thanks for your help ... have done this before but forgot procedure ... will try #vbox in future
[19:46] <tv7497> grawity: thanks mate ! thanks kcsrnd ! thomas__ not a problem mate
[19:46] <mostafa_> iceroot: you mean I make them as single then copy the commands to one patch file?
[19:47] <iceroot> mostafa_: with >> you append to a file. with > you delete old content
[19:47]  * tv7497 see ya folks ! good night :)
[19:47] <mostafa_> iceroot: ok you mean this helps
[19:48] <iceroot> mostafa_: give it a try
[19:48] <mostafa_> iceroot: ok let me check
[19:48] <mostafa_> iceroot: brb
[19:48] <Spaceman> are there any options to adjust the system time? it seems to be losing 15 seconds a day, can I update every 8 hours or something
[19:48] <biznock09> what does this mean "Root privileges are required for running GParted"
[19:49] <Spaceman> I have been recommended crontab, but are there any gui ways?
[19:49] <zelfje> biznock09: sudo gparted
[19:49] <zelfje> do it as super user
[19:49] <biznock09> thanks zelfje
[19:50] <Josh_> Is there a list of Ubuntu terminal commands? a conventional oen that people use?
[19:50] <zelfje> yw
[19:50] <iceroot> !gksudo | biznock09 zelfje
[19:50] <Doonz> hey if im trying to set up a logfile from a script i run. would this output to the logfile properly echo "$(date) Start of TV Show Transfer" >> /home/media/rsynclog.txt
[19:51] <mostafa_> iceroot: no use :(
[19:51] <usser> Doonz, echo "`date` Start of TV Show Transfer"
[19:51] <usser> Doonz, like that
[19:52] <grawity> Doonz: Your command is correct.
[19:52] <mostafa_> iceroot: what if they are not in the same directory ? what should I type to patch
[19:52] <kcsrnd> Josh_:  something like this maybe?   http://files.fosswire.com/2007/08/fwunixref.pdf
[19:52] <Doonz> o.O
[19:52] <usser> Doonz, yea but yours works too
[19:52] <mostafa_> grawity: plz what should I do?
[19:52] <mostafa_> grawity: can you help
[19:52] <mostafa_> ?
[19:52] <Doonz> ok awesome guys (sorry this is my first attempt at scripting anything
[19:53] <usser> Doonz, its just that your command is more bash specific, might not work on other shells
[19:53] <ubuntu> hallo,jemand da_
[19:53] <iceroot> mostafa_: diff /path/to/first/file /path/to/second/file
[19:53] <iceroot> !de | ubuntu
[19:53] <fdasffsfdagh> KILL NIGGERS
[19:53] <luca> !list
[19:54] <Ledif-Nieht> I have an old HP laptop with some sort of integrated ATI video card. Can someone help me in finding the proper model of the card and then the corresponding drivers
[19:54] <mostafa_> iceroot: imagine I want a diff file that when I type this command :
[19:54] <usser> Ledif-Nieht, lspci | grep VGA should tell you what card it has
[19:54] <mostafa_> iceroot: patch -p# < ./file.diff
[19:54] <tomy222> Upgrade 8.10 to 9.04. Error "could not download the upgrades". What I can do?
[19:55] <iceroot> mostafa_: have a look at "man diff" or use the command i told you
[19:55] <mostafa_> iceroot: then it goes through all folders and find the destination files and correct all of them
[19:55] <RobP> Can someone help me getting my WLAN to work ?
[19:55] <Ledif-Nieht> usser: Thank you. It says it has an ATI Technologies Inc Radeon IGP 330M/340M/350M. Can you help me find the proper driver for Ubuntu 9.04/
[19:56] <RobP> No networks are being detected, as I am sure there should be some available
[19:56] <mesut> hi,ive added a ad-hoc wireless network, but i cant find its signal from other laptop
[19:56] <usser> Ledif-Nieht, you're better off using opensource 'ati' driver with a card that old. ati dropped support for it
[19:56] <preetam> hai can anybody tell me the GUI equivalent for pppoeconf
[19:56] <preetam> i am using ubuntu 9.04
[19:56] <mesut> preetam, network manager , -> DSL
[19:56] <usser> Ledif-Nieht, generally it should already work by default. pastebin the output of glxinfo command
[19:57] <Ledif-Nieht> usser: What would be the proper way to do that? I tried the ATI X.org drivers from the Synaptics Package Manager, but it cause all graphics to stop working.
[19:57] <seidos> RobP: are you connecting to your own WLAN or to a WLAN owned by someone else?
[19:57] <usser> Ledif-Nieht, yes the ati proprietary drivers wont work
[19:57] <RobP> Own WLAN
[19:58] <tomy222> Upgrade 8.10 to 9.04. Error "could not download the upgrades". What I can do?
[19:58] <Happehwalrus> I have a Belkin wireless USB card disc, how do I install it on Ubuntu?
[19:58] <RobP> How can I check my WiFi is working correctly ?
[19:58] <Ledif-Nieht> usser: Thank you for your assistance, I appreciate it. The pastbin addy is http://pastebin.com/m27ec7fec
[19:58] <preetam> mesut other than network manager is there any gui application for pppoeconf
[19:58] <Ledif-Nieht> RobP: Can you see any wireless networks?
[19:58] <RobP> No :-(
[19:58] <Ledif-Nieht> RobP: What kind of card is it? Integrated into a laptop?
[19:58] <RobP> No it's a PCMCIA
[19:59] <Ledif-Nieht> RobP: What model?
[19:59] <Doc_Lappy> say anybody know how to get a sh or py file to run on the panel or desktop that I've made?
[19:59] <mesut> preetam, is ncurses based one OK ?
[19:59] <bercik> Hi all
[19:59] <usser> Ledif-Nieht, your current setup is fine, that is all 3d your gonna get out of this card im afraid
[19:59] <RobP> E-tech; 54 Mbps
[19:59] <Ledif-Nieht> usser: It just seemed a little choppy on youtube, which ran fine under windows on the same machine (so I know ubuntu can do it!). Thank though I appreciate the help.
[20:00] <Ledif-Nieht> RobP: Is there a model # or anything?
[20:00] <Happehwalrus> I have a Belkin wireless USB card setup disc that is only supposed to run on windows, how do I work it on Ubuntu?
[20:00] <RobP> Sure: wgpc01
[20:00] <bercik> Whats the difference of radeon video driver in Ubuntu and Fedora?
[20:00] <Doc_Lappy> I go to the panel and get to the command and can't get the right command apparently for things like shellweb.py and arbornet.sh
[20:00] <usser> Ledif-Nieht, flash player is a pain the ass on linux, it being choppy is also normal im afraid :)
[20:01] <hsn> when i upgrade from one ubuntu version to another, does the older version geet removed?
[20:02] <hsn> ?
[20:02] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: I got an belkin usb card, that works fine via linux kernel; you could try wine or just follow tips at :
[20:02] <DasEi> !wireless
[20:02] <underthechair> I need to revert to an older version of a package (xserver-xorg-video-intel). Please can anyone tell me how?
[20:02] <seidos> !language | usser
[20:02] <preetam> i have no idea about ncurses actually everytime i have to run the command sudo pon dsl-provider to connect to internet..but for people with no idea about command line it becomes very difficult to connect to internet.
[20:02] <kraito> quit question how long does it take to send an email using evolution mail?
[20:02] <hsn> when i upgrade from one ubuntu version to another, does the older version geet removed?
[20:02] <steffan> Happehwalrus: Use NDISwrapper.
[20:02] <steffan> !ndiswrapper > Happehwalrus
[20:03] <preetam> by the way can i install ncurses with apt-get install ncurses
[20:03] <usser> sorry
[20:03] <kraito> i'm trying to test if i can see a .odt on a windows base system if i send it through email. do you guys know if it is possible?
[20:03] <DasEi> preetam: apt-cache search ncurses tells you
[20:04] <steffan> preetam: If that package is in the repositories then yes, if not, you will have to compile from source or check out an alternate repository.
[20:04] <Ledif-Nieht> RobP: There are no linux drivers for that model, so I am not sure. Sorry.
[20:04] <es-web> \j #linux
[20:04] <topuzoglu> hello all
[20:04] <steffan> topuzoglu: Hi.
[20:04] <hsn> when i upgrade from one ubuntu version to another, does the older version geet removed?
[20:04] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: don't pm me
[20:04] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: PC, please.
[20:04] <topuzoglu> i use to ubuntu 9.04
[20:04] <RobP> Maybe the wgpc02 driver does do the trick ?
[20:05] <Happehwalrus> Okay.
[20:05] <topuzoglu> how can i mount flash disk?
[20:05] <Happehwalrus> bawww.
[20:05] <kraito> can anyone help with that?
[20:05] <Ledif-Nieht> usser: I am still having the problem where all flash videos advance at about 1 frame every 2 seconds. Could it be the browser? I know it has the power to view them fine, as it did with WinXP installed.
[20:05] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: does lsusb find the card ?
[20:05] <Ledif-Nieht> RobP: Perhaps, might be worth a shot if you can find them.
[20:05] <hsn> when i upgrade from one ubuntu version to another, does the older version geet removed?
[20:05] <Happehwalrus> No, it doesn't.
[20:06] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: No.
[20:06] <Ledif-Nieht> hsn: I believe it gets over written.
[20:06] <Ledif-Nieht> Err...
[20:06] <OmnipotentEntity> So, sometimes when I scp it stalls and when it stalls I can't scp again until I unload and load my driver.  AR5001X+ using ath_pci module (ath5k doesn't work)
[20:06] <Ledif-Nieht> hsn: Upgrade rather, so there will only be the new, upgraded, instance.
[20:06] <OmnipotentEntity> Any idea wtf is going on?
[20:06] <hsn> Ledif-Nieht: kk
[20:06] <hsn> Ledif-Nieht: thx alot :)
[20:06] <usser> Ledif-Nieht, the card has the power, the problem is with the driver, ati dropped support for this card so its not possible to install it in ubuntu 9.04, and opensource driver that you use know is quite limited
[20:06] <steffan> hsn: It _upgrades_ the old version. It does not _remove_ and _install_.
[20:06] <steffan> hsn: Hence the 'upgrade'.
[20:06] <mgv2> how can i be sure that my hd is encrypted? is there was no hd in live cd mode its means that it is encrypted fully?
[20:06] <usser> *now
[20:07] <topuzoglu> ldld
[20:07] <Ledif-Nieht> usser: So it is unlikely that I would be able to get this working any better? If that is the case I will have to put Windows back on there. =[
[20:07] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: No, it does not find the card.
[20:08] <azlon> is there any kind of regular maintenance i need to run on a RAID?
[20:08] <hsn> steffan: so all my programs installed on this version will stay when i upgrade?
[20:08] <usser> Ledif-Nieht, most likely, you can try gnash which is opensource flash, it might perform better
[20:08] <Happehwalrus> hsn: Yes.
[20:08] <SlAiD> hi there. I try to install ubuntu from a disk, and it failed, then I try to use unetbtin and some how... it fail again. I am now running the wubi.exe from the CD on top of Windows Vista but it is downloading a ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso ... but my Pc is intel. might be this the cause of two fail attempts?
[20:08] <kraito> how long does it take to send an email out on evolution mail?
[20:09] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: I'm not too good at wireless, there is a possibility to use ms drivers with ndiswrapper, which exact model ist it ?
[20:09] <hsn> thx guys :)
[20:09] <Ledif-Nieht> usser: Alright, thank you.
[20:09] <steffan> hsn: Like I said, you are _upgrading_ not doing a fresh install; yes.
[20:09] <hsn> thx :)
[20:09] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: Let me go get it.
[20:09] <OmnipotentEntity> So, sometimes when I scp it stalls and when it stalls I can't scp again until I unload and load my driver.  AR5001X+ using ath_pci module (ath5k doesn't work) anyone have any idea wtf is going on?
[20:10] <David_> does anyone have a suggestion for a 24 port Gb switch for home use
[20:10] <paipimenta> please help.... #debian is telling me this isn't a debian issue... I'm running 9.04 and I need to update my BIOS... compaq presario 6016
[20:11] <xpistos> Can someome help me get my samba working? I just installed and I am getting an error message from my laptop that says "Unable to mount location Failed to retrieve share list from server?
[20:11] <xpistos> I can go from the server to the laptop without a problem
[20:11] <kraito> how long does it take to send an email out on evolution mail?
[20:11] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: Belkin Enhanced Wireless USB Adapter Model: F6D4050 v2
[20:11] <grawity> kraito: A few seconds.
[20:11] <David_> xpistos what ver of ubuntu
[20:11] <OmnipotentEntity> paipimenta, you'll have little to no luck, BIOS updates for that are probably only available in .exe format
[20:12] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[20:12] <xpistos> karmic
[20:12] <David_> server or desktop?
[20:12] <guntbert> !karmic | xpistos
[20:12] <kraito> grawity: how long would it take to receive on a windows base system?
[20:12] <HotelMotel> paipimenta: you'll have to FreeDOS to that
[20:12] <paipimenta> I've got the Rompaq .exe I need (~700k) but I don't know what else to do, I've got a floppy
[20:12] <xpistos> I had the same issue with jaunty
[20:12] <azlon> i cant seem to get the newest version of utorrent to work under wine... anybody had this issue?
[20:12] <HotelMotel> paipimenta: http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-to-flash-motherboard-bios-from-linux-no-dos-windows-no-floppy-drive.html
[20:12] <paipimenta> can I install FreeDOS on a partition or something?
[20:12] <grawity> OmnipotentEntity: Actually, most BIOS updates - the .exe's you speak of - just extract a raw image of a bootable floppy disk.
[20:12] <paipimenta> HotelMotel: thats what I read
[20:12] <HotelMotel> paipimenta: FreeDOS is a live cd
[20:12] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: Belkin Enhanced Wireless USB Adapter Model: F6D4050 v2
[20:13] <paipimenta> FDOEM.144 didn't fit on the disk, let alone leave room for the .exe files
[20:13] <SlAiD> hi there. I try to install ubuntu from a disk, and it failed, then I try to use unetbtin and some how... it fail again. I am now running the wubi.exe from the CD on top of Windows Vista but it is downloading a ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso ... but my Pc is intel. might be this the cause of two fail attempts?
[20:13] <Finnish> Anyone any idea how to update to newest MELT, i have 0.4.5 but I don't know how to update to 0.4.6? I'm on jaunty
[20:13] <David_> use a USB instead of floppy
[20:13] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: does sudo ifconfig list the device ?
[20:14] <HotelMotel> paipimenta: burn an ISO to CDR and save your BIOS file to a USB thumbdriver (FAT32 formatted) boot from CD and run BIOS update
[20:14] <SlAiD> Dada_, don't have one atm. but I'm conserned about downloading an amd file to an intel processor. is that normal?
[20:14] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: What?
[20:14] <David_> slAid....your intel is prolly amd64 instruction set
[20:14] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: open a terminal ..
[20:14] <DasEi> Happehwalrus:  sudo ifconfig
[20:14] <DasEi> Happehwalrus:  found ?
[20:14] <SlAiD> Dada_ wh00t? and how can i "fix" that, if that's something to be fixed.
[20:15] <Happehwalrus> Let me go try it on my computer I need to install it on, DasEi.
[20:15] <jackwilsdon> hi
[20:15] <jackwilsdon> u ok
[20:15] <MasterTheGod> Can any one help me with seting up nw conn with ubuntu
[20:15] <jackwilsdon> ayes
[20:15] <MasterTheGod> yand drivers
[20:15] <jackwilsdon> yes
[20:15] <jackwilsdon> yes
[20:15] <jackwilsdon> i can
[20:15] <FloodBot2> jackwilsdon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:15] <paipimenta> I can't currently boot from USB, is that going to affect booting from CDR and then updating BIOS from USB?
[20:15] <David_> S1Aid...no no    intel uses the AMD64 instruction set...kinda like SSE, SSE2 etc but for 64 bit addressing etc
[20:15] <MasterTheGod> plz
[20:15] <jackwilsdon> yes
[20:16] <MasterTheGod> tell me
[20:16] <jackwilsdon> what hardware is it
[20:16] <MasterTheGod> intel
[20:16] <MasterTheGod> 845
[20:16] <jackwilsdon> type ifconfig
[20:16] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: paipimenta : no
[20:16] <jackwilsdon> copy and paste it here
[20:16] <MasterTheGod> nt on syst its at office
[20:16] <MasterTheGod> just tell me will try
[20:16] <SlAiD> David_ so nothing to worry about then?
[20:16] <jackwilsdon> ifconfig eth0 up
[20:16] <paipimenta> DasEi: cool, thank you.... so: download FreeDOS, burn to CDR, boot from that, have FAT32 formatted flash drive with contents of .exe?
[20:17] <MasterTheGod> lol
[20:17] <jackwilsdon> wa
[20:17] <jackwilsdon> ??
[20:17] <MasterTheGod> i am not at lin syst
[20:17] <del_diablo> Running 3.x something of openoffice. How do i turn of the idiotic feature of OO.O automaticaly turning pastes INTO dates?(9.1 becomes 09.01.2009)
[20:17] <jackwilsdon> what are u on
[20:17] <MasterTheGod> its at off
[20:17] <MasterTheGod> y me at home
[20:17] <jackwilsdon> go on private chat
[20:17] <MasterTheGod> win
[20:17] <jackwilsdon> i have opened one
[20:17] <bin_strout> Hello, i have a fresh installation of ubuntu 9.04, my wireless is detect, i connect to the network normally, but i can't send any packets to the internet, any idea what's the issue?
[20:17] <MasterTheGod> right now 7
[20:18] <DasEi> paipimenta: right, though #windows related, from dos-cd usb mountable ? not sure .. either have the *. exe on c:/ (hd) or put on disc, too
[20:18] <MasterTheGod> jack u tere
[20:18] <David_> S1Aid nope
[20:18] <SlAiD> David_ ok, thank. let me try this third time and see how it goes. thanks again for the imput.
[20:18] <ratboy> hi
[20:19] <jackwilsdon> hi
[20:19] <jackwilsdon> my ubuntu pc has a biggg problem
[20:19] <jackwilsdon> any1 help?
[20:19] <jackwilsdon> help mee
[20:19] <jackwilsdon> please
[20:19] <jackwilsdon> ubuntu help
[20:19] <jackwilsdon> please
[20:19] <FloodBot2> jackwilsdon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:19] <seidos> bin_strout: do you have an ip?
[20:20] <DasEi> !ask | jackwilsdon
[20:20] <jackwilsdon> !ask help
[20:20] <jackwilsdon> !ask man
[20:20] <jackwilsdon> help
[20:20] <jackwilsdon> me
[20:20] <jackwilsdon> please
[20:20] <seidos> jackwilsdon: relax
[20:20] <FloodBot2> jackwilsdon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:20] <bin_strout> seidos: how do i check that (i'm on another OS now since i don't have internet from ubuntu now)
[20:20] <jackwilsdon> Please Help
[20:21] <MasterTheGod> my system is at office me at home right now The driver is not configuredno sound nor  network
[20:21] <MasterTheGod> i installed ubuntu 9.04
[20:21] <jackwilsdon> this is a 1000 $ Computer and its broken in ubuntu
[20:21] <seidos> bin_strout: type ifconfig in a terminal
[20:21] <jackwilsdon> ubuntu says "ERROR PANIC!" FORMATTING DISK...
[20:21] <quellhorst> I jsut installed the 32bit version of ubuntu server. I didn't know it came with a gui?
[20:21] <jackwilsdon> HELP ME PLEASE!
[20:21] <jackwilsdon> _
[20:21] <quellhorst> also on my 32bit server install, its only seeing 3 gigs of my 3 gigs of ram.
[20:21] <jackwilsdon> -
[20:21] <DasEi> jackwilsdon: you're kidding ?
[20:22] <seidos> DasEi: lying more like it
[20:22] <jackwilsdon> no
[20:22] <gyroscope> not error panic, it's kernel panic
[20:22] <jackwilsdon> plese
[20:22] <raven> hi - i get a "segmentation fault" when i try to convert an avi with ffmpeg - any solutin?
[20:22] <seidos> yes
[20:22] <jackwilsdon> help me stop it
[20:22] <ratboy> quellhorst: it's a limit of 32bit os
[20:22] <bin_strout> seidos: i typed iwconfig, and it seems to be normally connected to the AP. Since i'll reboot now, do i have to set a dhcp or something for the wireless to work?
[20:22] <gabacho> jackwilson:  that is not possible dude
[20:22] <mgv2> why transmission make my computer stuck?
[20:22] <jackwilsdon> it just did!
[20:22] <quellhorst> ratboy: so can I upgrade my 32bit install to be 64bit?
[20:22] <jackwilsdon> look!
[20:22] <jackwilsdon> i will paste the line
[20:22] <quellhorst> i couldn't get the 64bit iso to boot via usb stick
[20:22] <kilo> anyone know why some youtube vids don't work on ubuntu 9.04?  (like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gaid72fqzNE&feature=related)
[20:23] <seidos> bin_strout: you need an ip assigned to your wireless nic, either manually or by dhcp
[20:23] <del_diablo> mgv2: how many gigs of torrents are you checking?
[20:23] <MasterTheGod> Were can i get 64 bit version of ubuntu 9.04
[20:23] <jackwilsdon> root@workpc# ls
[20:23] <jackwilsdon> ERROR KERNEL PANIC FORMATTING DRIVE
[20:23] <boscop> jackwilsdon: wtf
[20:23] <ratboy> quellhorst: more likely you'll need clean install
[20:23] <del_diablo> mgv2: and remember to cap your up and download so it won't choke your network
[20:23] <MasterTheGod> i gues my system will support that
[20:23] <jackwilsdon> help
[20:23] <xpistos> Did something change from Intrepid to Jaunty that I wouldn't be able to get get samba working?
[20:23] <harjot_> anyone any good with metasploit
[20:23] <jackwilsdon> pc kernel panic and format drive
[20:23] <ratboy> i've got 8gb ram
[20:23] <harjot_> ?
[20:23] <gabacho> Jackwilsdon:  OMG....why the hell are you working as root when you are clearly a n00b?
[20:23] <boscop> jackwilsdon: OMGDNE
[20:23] <gabacho> ever heard of sudo?
[20:23] <jackwilsdon> root is the only user
[20:24] <ratboy> quellhorst: i've got 8gb
[20:24] <bin_strout> seidos: Hmm, i did type dhclient wlan0 and it didn't work. Am i doing something wrong?
[20:24] <gabacho> hehehehehehe
[20:24] <boscop> jackwilsdon: no, on ubuntu, root isn't the only user
[20:24] <DasEi> MasterTheGod: http://www.ubuntu.com
[20:24] <jackwilsdon> i only made root as a user
[20:24] <gabacho> jackwildson:  you need to read a book first before you are allowed to do anything on your computer
[20:24] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: I entered that command in terminal, it replied with this; http://pastebin.com/m3600fc8b
[20:24] <max> hi
[20:24] <quellhorst> ratboy: yeah, sure I'd upgrade this machine, but i got ram when it was > $150 per 1gig stick :)
[20:24] <gabacho> $1000 computer does not mean the user is $1000 smart
[20:24] <boscop> jackwilsdon: shutdown -r now
[20:24] <jackwilsdon> what
[20:24] <jackwilsdon> ??
[20:24] <Guest13596> anybody have just like me scratchy sound in virtualbox on kk ??
[20:25] <gabacho> jackwilsdon.. do this:
[20:25] <jackwilsdon> ok
[20:25] <quellhorst> still sux that I couldn't boot from 64bit iso
[20:25] <ddo> help me pls
[20:25] <mgv2> del_diablo, not many gbs
[20:25] <jackwilsdon> error: segmentation fault??
[20:25] <gabacho> root@you'rehosed:     shutdown -r now
[20:25] <jackwilsdon> wAT
[20:25] <gabacho> then see what happens
[20:25] <jackwilsdon> umm
[20:25] <jackwilsdon> ok
[20:25] <kilo> anyone know why some youtube vids don't work on ubuntu 9.04? They just come up blank... (like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gaid72fqzNE&feature=related)
[20:25] <ddo> about ubuntu 9.04 i have same problem graphic card
[20:25] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: I entered that command in terminal, it replied with this; http://pastebin.com/m3600fc8b
[20:25] <ratboy> quellhorst: i've loaded 64bit , no problems
[20:25] <boscop> kilo: that's not a problem of ubuntu
[20:25] <jackwilsdon> ERROR: FAILED TO SHUTDOWN: SEGMENTATION FAULT
[20:26] <boscop> jackwilsdon: then unplug your cable
[20:26] <gabacho> try:    shutdown -h now
[20:26] <jackwilsdon> FORMAT COMPLETE
[20:26] <quellhorst> ratboy: sure, but I either have to go buy a dvd ide drive, dvd usb drive, or find out why the 64bit server image wont boot
[20:26] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: got it, so two nics are already found, how may nics does that have then ? 3 ?
[20:26] <seidos> bin_strout: sudo?
[20:26] <jackwilsdon> ???
[20:26] <gabacho> LOL
[20:26] <jackwilsdon> ??
[20:26] <jackwilsdon> WA
[20:26] <FloodBot2> jackwilsdon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:26] <boscop> OMGDNE
[20:26] <jackwilsdon> WHY LOL
[20:26] <kilo> boscop, that's what I thought... except they play fine on mozilla on my windows box   :(:(
[20:26] <bin_strout> seidos: yeah, i did that : (
[20:26] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: I entered that command in terminal, it replied with this; http://pastebin.com/m3600fc8b
[20:26] <gabacho> jackwilsdon:  get a big glass of water
[20:26] <gabacho> and pour it into your tower
[20:26] <jackwilsdon> Why
[20:26] <gabacho> :)
[20:26] <boscop> kilo: as I said: that's not a problem of ubuntu
[20:26] <jackwilsdon> its a blade at work
[20:26] <jackwilsdon> no
[20:26] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: see above
[20:26] <seidos> bin_strout: paste in pastebin
[20:26] <jackwilsdon> it has 6 gb ram
[20:26] <gabacho> OMG
[20:27] <ratboy> quellhorst: but i had to use that alternative cd - because of the fake raid0
[20:27] <gabacho> you are working on a blade at work
[20:27] <jackwilsdon> yup
[20:27] <gabacho> as root?
[20:27] <MasterTheGod> jack reading my chat
[20:27] <boscop> kilo: rtfm, do you have a flash plugin?
[20:27] <MasterTheGod> ?
[20:27] <jackwilsdon> yes
[20:27] <dpanda> is it a good idea to buy a laptop listed on http://www.dell.com/ubuntu ?
[20:27] <gabacho> ok...well, try to reinstall the OS then man
[20:27] <jackwilsdon> what
[20:27] <gabacho> I have no idea what you did to that thing
[20:27] <ratboy> quellhorst: well , i've newer loaded the server version, so can't tell
[20:27] <seidos> jackwilsdon, gabacho: you both must be kidding
[20:27] <nitrohax> dpanda> it's cheaper cause you don't have to pay for the windows licnese
[20:27] <jackwilsdon> wha
[20:27] <gabacho> in my years of using Linux I have never had the system spontaneously reformat itself
[20:27] <Happehwalrus> nics?
[20:27] <boscop> jackwilsdon: why do you have root access at work??
[20:27] <jackwilsdon> but it just did!
[20:28] <gabacho> seidos:  I wish I was
[20:28] <ddo> whats that mean  "SystemError: Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock" when i try to install my graphic card i see this
[20:28] <jackwilsdon> virus?
[20:28] <gabacho> seidos:  I extra wish HE was
[20:28] <kilo> boscop, While I appreciate the statement, that does not enlighten me as to where the problem lay.  ;)   Naturally, I would assume that since it works on a win box, and not on a linux box, that the problem was with linux. Do you have another suggestion?
[20:28] <nitrohax> OMG my system just formatted it's self into ext3 OH NOOOOOS
[20:28] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: nics?
[20:28] <boscop> kilo: as I said, you need a flash plugin
[20:28] <kilo> boscop, I do. Certain vids work. others do not
[20:28] <bin_strout> seidos: what, the command? i'm not in ubuntu atm, so i don't have access to the dchp results, unfortunately
[20:28] <cartman> hello all
[20:28] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: network adaptors
[20:28] <harjot_> Is anyone good at using metasploit here?
[20:28] <Happehwalrus> The two ethernet ones were already on there, I dont use them.
[20:28] <boscop> kilo: strange. what's the diff between those that work and those who don't?
[20:29] <dpanda> nitrohax: uummm well i meant hardware compatibility, i have used ubuntu before, liked it much but my current old laptop was very much incompatible. so want to have a better experience with the best compatible hardware i can
[20:29] <boscop> kilo: do you have an example vid?
[20:29] <gabacho> jack:   seriously man...I'd just reinstall to be honest
[20:29] <seidos> bin_strout: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and then paste the results.  Do you remember off hand what it said?  Do you have a dhcp host on your wlan?
[20:29] <gabacho> what type of file system did you use?
[20:29] <gabacho> ext3 or 4 or what?
[20:29] <Guest96792> kk
[20:29] <kilo> boscop, I have no idea... been trying to figure it out.  one of the vids that doesn't work is here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gaid72fqzNE&feature=related
[20:29] <ddo> neeed help :/
[20:29] <nitrohax> dpanda> sending you query
[20:29] <seidos> kilo: the video started up for me
[20:30] <kilo> boscop, I know... majorly strange, considering the vids on youtube are all formatted... lol!
[20:30] <boscop> kilo: works for me
[20:30] <fax> hi - is there a channel for people making games on gnu/linux? Or a better place to ask this question?
[20:30] <ratboy> quellhorst: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/51093/ubuntu-32-bit-maximum-address-space
[20:30] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: alright , so not found, and     lsusb        also doesn't see the attached stick ?
[20:30] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: No, I don't have any network adapters. All I have plugged in is my wireless USB card.
[20:30] <bin_strout> seidos: ok, i'll reboot and get back to you, thanks for the help so far
[20:30] <seidos> bin_strout: good luck
[20:30] <Happehwalrus> The ethernet ones were automatically added on there in case I do use ethernet.
[20:30] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: you're confusing, ifconfig shows two
[20:30] <jackwilsdon> computer just spontaniously kernel paniced 12 times, error ram overload
[20:30] <jackwilsdon> helpp
[20:30] <jackwilsdon> !
[20:31] <kilo> seidos, boscop, I think there must be a plugin I'm missing or something... I just can't seem to figure out what.  It's very strange that some work and some don't.
[20:31] <ratboy> quellhorst:  server install should support PAE and see all ram
[20:31] <kraito> can you use yahoo messenger here on ubuntu?
[20:31] <boscop> kilo: what error do you get?
[20:31] <CppAlt> Where is the C++ code that creates linux on my system? can i alter it and change the way ubuntu behaves?
[20:31] <jackwilsdon> help
[20:31] <jackwilsdon> help
[20:31] <jackwilsdon> help
[20:31] <kilo> boscop, no error. just a black box where the vid is supposed to be.
[20:31] <FloodBot2> jackwilsdon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:31] <harjot_> there is no one here who has used metasploit ?
[20:31] <boscop> kilo: what browser?
[20:32] <jackwilsdon> help
[20:32] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: I have no network adapters.
[20:32] <quellhorst> ratboy: its weird because I have 4096 gigs, i would think thats still under the limit
[20:32] <Happehwalrus> The only thing I had in was my Belkin USB
[20:32] <kilo> boscop, mozilla ff 3.0.14 ... VERY fresh ubuntu install
[20:32] <kilo> boscop, I only started using 3 days ago   ;)
[20:32] <entilzha> I'm having a problem on my plug computer with DNS resolution. It runs DHCP nicely, gets an IP, I can even do apt-get things. But it cannot convert internet addresses. Ping gives an 'unknown host' error. Any idea where to start debugging?
[20:32] <ddo> need help about GeForce 5200 fx graphic card in ubuntu 9.04
[20:33] <seidos> weird
[20:33] <ratboy> quellhorst: i think that real limit is ~3.3gb , its all to do with marketing , etc .. lol
[20:33] <CppAlt> Where is the C++ code that creates linux on my system? can i alter it and change the way ubuntu behaves?
[20:33] <jackwilsdon> ZZZZZåç
[20:33] <kilo> ddo, what help do you need?
[20:33] <junkY_San> hey, does anyone know a way to control the volume of special frequencys for the soundcard?
[20:33] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: does it have a wired connection next to the  wireless ? does   lsusb show the stick ?
[20:33] <nitrohax> ddo> system>admin> hardware drivers
[20:33] <junkY_San> i want to reduce base-leve
[20:33] <ddo> my OS see my graphic card but i cant install driver
[20:34] <boscop> CppAlt: download the source, modify it, compile
[20:34] <DasEi> ddo: which model ?
[20:34] <nitrohax> might not need a driver to be install then.
[20:34] <seidos> ddo: what do you mean your OS sees your card?
[20:34] <ddo> GeForce 5200 Fx
[20:34] <jackwilsdon> X11 Error, Unable To Boot
[20:34] <jackwilsdon> Help
[20:34] <kilo> ddo, did you try just installing the NVIDIA X Server?
[20:34] <jackwilsdon> Pc shuts down
[20:34] <seidos> kilo: maybe ubuntu is telling you not to watch so much youtube :D
[20:34] <ddo> i see this "SystemError: Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock"
[20:34] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: No, I have no wired connections whatsoever. Also, lsusb? What's that?
[20:34] <kilo> seidos, LOL... mean....
[20:34] <CppAlt> boscop, do you know whaqt graphics API it uses?
[20:35] <DasEi> !who | ddo;  are you on desktop now ?
[20:35] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: type it terminal ?!
[20:35] <ddo> sorry about that :/
[20:35] <osotogari> Hi rebooted my desktop running ubuntu 9.04 and suddenly I have no sound, no volume icon in the panel. Can anyone help?
[20:35] <jackwilsdon> MRWANKA: HI
[20:35] <kilo> ok, gonna try a reboot... see if that helps.  thanks all!
[20:35] <jackwilsdon> killall Xq
[20:35] <jackwilsdon> reboot
[20:35] <johnmn3> so, I can't get into X
[20:35] <CppAlt> Who knows what graphics api is used to create ubuntu?
[20:35] <nitrohax> osotogari> make sure you have soemthign plugged into the sound outputs in the computer
[20:35] <seidos> kilo: gives me an idea, don't watch the cable in the livingroom, maybe that's why it isn't working now
[20:36] <usser> CppAlt, opengl
[20:36] <seidos> CppAlt: gtk+
[20:36] <CppAlt> sweet
[20:36] <CppAlt> i know SDL
[20:36] <usser> CppAlt, if thats what youre asking
[20:36] <CppAlt> i can build on
[20:36] <kilo> seidos, lol, I don't watch TV normally
[20:36] <osotogari> @ nitrohax: speakers are all plugged in and ready to go, as I said this occurred on a reboot
[20:36] <Fox3211> Hey all! I am duel booting linux/windows7. should I use gparted before, or after the windows installation?
[20:36] <seidos> CppAlt, usser:  opengl for compiz
[20:36] <nitrohax> osotogari> try loging out and then back in
[20:36] <CppAlt> compiz?
[20:36] <kilo> seidos, I was just trying to look up a comedian that a friend recommended
[20:36] <osotogari> @ nitrohax: will try
[20:37] <guntbert> !ot | kilo
[20:37] <ddo> kilo no sir i m new in ubuntu
[20:37] <seidos> !compiz | CppAlt
[20:37] <DasEi> ddo : look under hardwaredrivers for your card, I assume you're on ubuntu-desktop now
[20:37] <osotogari> @ nitrohax: no joy there
[20:38] <kilo> guntbert, I'm trying to get youtube to work appropriately on ubuntu 9.04, do you have a suggestion?
[20:38] <nitrohax> osotogari> damn the joy one second.
[20:38] <CppAlt> hmmm, i could totally restructure and recreate ubuntu, i should :-), naaaaa just run my own webserver
[20:38] <seidos> CppAlt: it's the 3d effects in ubuntu, wobbly windows, "cube"
[20:38] <osotogari> @ nitrohax: lol
[20:38] <dpanda> Fox3211: just curious, what feels better win7 or linux and what flavor of linux btw :)
[20:38] <seidos> CppAlt: wish I could totally restructure and recreate ubuntu :)
[20:38] <johnmn3> on startx: "Failed to load module "i810"
[20:38] <CppAlt> seidos, do you know C++
[20:38] <nitrohax> osotogari> try system> prefs> sound and make sure they are all on what you need or auto detect
[20:39] <seidos> CppAlt: maybe someday
[20:39] <CppAlt> seidos, im 15 and ive been learnign for 3 years :-P
[20:39] <CppAlt> and now i know c++ php mysql css and html
[20:39] <seidos> CppAlt: cool!
[20:39] <junkY_San> hey, i want to add a PPTP connection, but i only get openvpn and vpnc as possible clients
[20:39] <ddo> DasEi: yes i m
[20:39] <seidos> CppAlt: what have you developed?
[20:39] <mnaines> dpanda: Depends on your intent...If you're a hard-core gamer, Windows 7 is better, but if you're just doing basic stuff like word processing, web browsing, and stuff, I'm stick with Linux.  The flavor is personal preference
[20:39] <DasEi> ddo: system > hardwaredrives
[20:39] <madman1> johnmn3: have you tried running xfix
[20:39] <DasEi> ddo: system > hardwaredrivers*
[20:40] <Fox3211> dpanda: I have never used win 7, but need to for work stuff. I will use karmic once it comes out. I have to use fedora until karmic because gpu is too new. I love ubuntu to answer your question. will you anser mine?
[20:40] <steffan> !ot
[20:40] <CppAlt> seidos, mostly games, few small ones in DX9 most in SDL (2D) and.. not too many applications
[20:40] <johnmn3> madman1: no, haven't heard of that one
[20:40] <johnmn3> will try
[20:40] <ddo> DasEi:yes  on there
[20:40] <seidos> CppAlt: how did you learn?
[20:40] <DasEi> ddo: is your card listed there ?
[20:40] <CppAlt> tutorials :-)
[20:40] <madman1> johnmn3: boot in recovery mode then select xfix
[20:40] <osotogari> @ nitrohax: Did not solve it either! This just happened on a reboot, so annoying
[20:41] <j1mp492>  I need help.. if u schroll down on this page http://www.spotify.com/en/help/faq/wine/ you see "Opening spotify URLs from browsers" and then "To be able to open spotify URL's you first need a simple script" and the question is, what should i do with the simple script?
[20:41] <dpanda> Fox3211: oh no i am a very noobish linux user, dunno much about gparted
[20:41] <tanyeun> hi all
[20:41] <tanyeun> anyone know how to solve this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1287137
[20:41] <johnmn3> madman1: safemode.. will I need the ubuntu disk for that?
[20:41] <ddo> something on there but there is no 5200 fx but its talking about nvidia drivers
[20:41] <madman1> johnmn3: you shouldnt
[20:41] <nitrohax> sorry goto to go. medic time
[20:41] <DasEi> ddo: activate it
[20:41] <mnaines> dpanda: gparted is a partition manager, and it is highly advisable that you let an experienced Linux user mess with it
[20:41] <j1mp492>  I need help.. if u schroll down on this page http://www.spotify.com/en/help/faq/wine/ you see "Opening spotify URLs from browsers" and then "To be able to open spotify URL's you first need a simple script" and the question is, what should i do with the simple script?
[20:42] <j1mp492> pls help
[20:42] <johnmn3> madman1: press escape or something after grub?  it goes by quick
[20:42] <madman1> johnmn3: IME i'd keep one handy anyway
[20:42] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: It lists Belkin when I type lsusb in terminal.
[20:42] <mnaines> j1mp492: Please don't repeat the question.  We hear you the first time.
[20:42] <madman1> johnmn3: yes escape
[20:42] <osotogari> Hi I just rebooted my laptop and my sound isnt working and I have no volume icon in the upper panel. Anyone ever experience this with 9.04?
[20:42] <johnmn3> k
[20:42] <dpanda> mnaines: i think it comes with ubuntu gui installer during the installation step when it asks us to do partitions (graphically) right?
[20:42] <Isaac_xinerama> hello!
[20:42] <tvjudge> hello
[20:42] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: yee, so correct module is alraedy loaded, follow the next two links :
[20:43] <ddo> DasEi: it gives SystemError: Failed to lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[20:43] <DasEi> !wireless
[20:43] <Isaac_xinerama> So I'm having problems with xinerama. Is anyone else?
[20:43] <bigdavejoker> what are some good tools to use or files to check for networking errors?  I keep having problems with random disconnects from network  the wireless connection never seems to change but I have to refresh dhclient  to regain connectivity
[20:43] <johnmn3> madman1: I'm doing an upgrade right now, but it says it'll take 20 days to complete.. yes, that's how slow my connection is
[20:43] <DasEi> ddo: synaptic open ? apt running ?
[20:43] <mnaines> dpanda: Yes, when you install Ubuntu, it uses gparted to set up the partitions, but if you are inexperienced with computers, it is best to let a pro deal with it
[20:43] <CppAlt> Daamn i want to learn how to use my C++ skills for evil, combines with ubuntu :-(
[20:43] <Fox3211> do I partition the hd before or after a windows7 dual boot?
[20:43] <dpanda> mnaines: yes i have installed ubuntu few times before, no problems :)
[20:57] <jessezylstra> TimothyA: Unfortunately, the keyboard isn't great for desktop navagation. I'm familiar with the command line in Linux, however.
[20:57] <Happehwalrus> Get a new one?
[20:57] <Omen20> mnaines, well my plan was to install ubuntu and apps on a SSD for quicker booting and performance but then keep media and files on another drive.
[20:58] <guntbert> mate: did you really set your WLAN to "open"?
[20:58] <jessezylstra> (Thus why I am in IRSS)
[20:58] <mnaines> Omen20: SSDs aren't really all that fast unless you're willing to sell your soul for one.
[20:58] <johnmn3> jessezylstra: does it work from the GDM?
[20:58] <Dutchy> johnmn3: nope, whenever i plug it in i still get sound from my normal speakers
[20:58] <jessezylstra> johnmn3: That reminds me, I can switch desktop  managers... brb thoug
[20:59] <mnaines> Omen20: A Seagate Momentus 7200.4 drive will easily keep pace with most cheap SSDs at this time
[20:59] <johnmn3> Dutchy: when you right click on the volume applet, and go to sound preferences, oh wait.. what version ubuntu are you running?
[21:00] <jessezylstra> I can't see anything throught he netsplits
[21:00] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: My problem is not wireless network! My problem is getting the wireless card to work!
[21:00] <Dutchy> johnmn3: i'm on karmic, and the only sound utility i could find was "Sound Preferences" and there isnt a lot to configure here
[21:00] <jessezylstra> I'll reconnect later
[21:00] <Omen20> mnaines, ok thanks. I'm running on a 5400rpm and when 9.10 drops i wasnt sure if i should install on my 7200 or get a SSD for it.
[21:00] <DasEi> sun`: don't pm me; open a terminal
[21:00] <mate> johnmn3: I get the same results through the dhcp client. Is there anything else that I can do?
[21:00] <Happehwalrus> In other words, I can't run the belkin setup CD because it's only for windows.
[21:00] <johnmn3> Dutchy: you can't choose output source?  I have some usb headphone deal that I can pick as "external"
[21:00] <sun`> okay i have
[21:01] <johnmn3> mate: you wireless or wired?
[21:01] <mate> johnmn3: wireless
[21:01] <DasEi> ddo: driver installed ?
[21:01] <guntbert> !pm | mate
[21:01] <johnmn3> mate: did it work previously and stop? or never worked?
[21:01] <Dutchy> johnmn3: i have a normal jack headset and that and the normal speakers are connected to the same device
[21:02] <Dutchy> i can pick a device but there's nothing to configure
[21:02] <DasEi> sun`: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:02] <mnaines> Omen20: Go with a 7,200rpm drive.  SSD drives are still too expensive and primitive for high-performance use.  The Seagate Momentus 7200.4 drive has been noted as the fastest notebook hard drive on the market at this time.  Intel has a solid state drive that can run at 200MB/sec, but its almost a thousand dollars
[21:03] <mate> johnmn3: it's a fresh installation, I had problems with this wireles card with mint
[21:03] <johnmn3> Dutchy: for mine, I don't have to configure anything, I just highlight the device and audio starts coming from there
[21:03] <Happehwalrus> Is there a way I can run a Windows CD on Ubuntu?
[21:03] <kilo> anyone familiar with how I can move Gnome-do's docky to another part of the screen??
[21:03] <Dutchy> johnmn3: yeah well it's the same device for both so i obviously need to configure something :P
[21:04] <DasEi> sun`: pastebinit /var/log/sylog
[21:04] <DasEi> sun`: pastebinit /var/log/syslog*
[21:04] <David_> what is the best image/backup solution for a win/nix enviorment?
[21:04] <johnmn3> mate: I got your pm, but I don't know how to switch windows with wee-chat.. is the card detected? are there wireless options from the network manager applet?
[21:05] <johnmn3> Dutchy: have you tried alsa config?
[21:05] <madman1> mate: what wireless card do you have?
[21:05] <johnmn3> Dutchy: the command-line curses utility?
[21:05] <Dutchy> i will try it
[21:05] <ThomasB2k> Hello, I'm using an Alienware m15x with the latest version of Ubuntu Jaunty. I got my sound and my built in web cam to work, but I just can't get the built in microphone to work. Does anyone have any advice?
[21:05] <johnmn3> Dutchy: alsamixer is the name
[21:06] <DasEi> happe  pastebinit /var/log/syslog*
[21:06] <Dutchy> johnmn3: i've tried alsamixer, there
[21:06] <mate> johnmn3:  the card is detected (rtl 8187B) and I am connected to wifi network
[21:06] <mate> madman1: rtl8187b
[21:06] <Dutchy> johnmn3: there's a headphone setting which has no bar, otherwise i cant find anything
[21:06] <DasEi> Happehwalrus:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[21:07] <johnmn3> Dutchy: usually what you're trying to do works out of the box. I'd google your specific model computer for headphone/audio problems with linux
[21:07] <Omen20> mnaines, right lol. i will just finally clean on windows and move ubuntu over to the 7200. do you know of a well supported video card for ubuntu thats >=$100? My ATI Radeon X1000 doesnt run flash well on ubuntu but does fine on Vista.
[21:07] <DasEi> Happehwalrus:  ah sorry, you have no net;; are eth0/1 listed in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[21:07] <Dutchy> yeah ill google my soundchip
[21:07] <johnmn3> mate: so it works, but not to the network you want to be connected to?
[21:07] <kilo> anyone familiar with how I can move Gnome-do's docky to another part of the screen? I can resize, but can't grip it or move it...
[21:08] <mnaines> Omen20: You won't find a decent video card for less than $100 anymore
[21:08] <mate> johnmn3: yeah, everything seems to be normal, but i can't send packets to the internet
[21:08] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: Yes, but I don't have ethernet on it.
[21:08] <Omen20> mnaines, whys that? prices go up?
[21:08] <johnmn3> does it say you are connected to the wireless router that you want to be connected to?
[21:09] <ThomasB2k> Hello, I'm using an Alienware m15x with the latest version of Ubuntu Jaunty. I got my sound and my built in web cam to work, but I just can't get the built in microphone to work. Does anyone have any advice?
[21:09] <johnmn3> mate: ^
[21:09] <DasEi> Happehwalrus:  nano /etc/network/interfaces          ,look for line saying iface eth0 and/or 1
[21:09] <mnaines> Omen20: No, the technology is too new...They did away with AGP and are now running PCI Express.
[21:09] <IRConan> can anyone tell me how to make alsa forget all the cards it has used
[21:09] <IRConan> I just attached my usb sound card and turned off the onboard one but it keeps making it card 1 instead of card 0
[21:09] <johnmn3> ThomasB2k: have you checked alsamixer?  That's all I know about
[21:09] <ThomasB2k> yes
[21:09] <ThomasB2k> I have
[21:09] <mnaines> IRConan: Have you disabled the onboard sound in the BIOS?
[21:10] <IRConan> mnaines: yes
[21:10] <ThomasB2k> After almost a year of ubuntu, this is the first time something hasn't worked for me.
[21:10] <IRConan> cat /proc/asouns/cards just shows one card but it's numbered 1
[21:10] <IRConan> and the default device still tries to use the non-existent card 0
[21:10] <ThomasB2k> and I've looked all over
[21:10] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: nano /etc/network/interface? What?1
[21:10] <mate> johnmn3:  it seems I am connected to the ap as I see from iwconfig command
[21:11] <johnmn3> ThomasB2k: have you enabled all the checkboxes in the audio preferences section, so all the levers and buttons are present?
[21:11] <ThomasB2k> johnmn3: yes, i have
[21:11] <johnmn3> mate: did it give you an IP address?
[21:12] <johnmn3> ThomasB2k: Then the issue goes deeper than I would know how to fix.. I'd start looking at the drivers
[21:12] <Happehwalrus> I'm so tired of no help, I want to scream until my vocal cords die.
[21:12] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: run that cmd on the wifi machine and read that file :
[21:12] <tvjudge> OK I think I have my raid working and it appears to be mounted but how can I tell where it is mounted DUH??
[21:12] <ThomasB2k> thanks
[21:12] <DasEi> Happehwalrus:  nano /etc/network/interfaces
[21:12] <mate> johnmn3: how do I check that?
[21:12] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: look for a line saying iface eth0 and/or 1
[21:13] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: I don't understand.
[21:13] <johnmn3> mate: either ifconfig or iwconfig should list an IP for each interface, if it has one
[21:14] <johnmn3> mate: like, lo might have 127.0.0.1
[21:14] <mnaines> Happehwalrus: Just type ifconfig into a terminal and pastebin the output
[21:14] <DasEi> mnaines: won't do it
[21:15] <mate> johnmn3: yeah I know...but it seems that I don't have an ip... this is what I get: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/290331/
[21:15] <tvjudge> I am trying to mount my raid array as follows sudo mount /dev/mapper/sil_ajbgbgdcaaag /media/Projects
[21:15] <gui77> ello everyone
[21:15] <Guest83990> .
[21:15] <DasEi> mnaines: happe.. is on a machine in irc, tries to set up wifi on another with no current connection, module is loaded
[21:16] <johnmn3> mate: I know you don't want to flood the room, but I can't get on to a browser at the moment.. stuck in the console
[21:16] <gui77> does anyone know how i can use shred to wipe my entire hard drive/partition?
[21:16] <tvjudge> I get a message sayibng that it is already mounted or /media/Projects busy
[21:16] <mnaines> DasEi: So its not letting him connect?
[21:16] <joaopinto> gui77, command: wipe
[21:16] <gui77> wipe? ok, thanks
[21:16] <Guest83990> .
[21:16] <Happehwalrus> mnaines: http://pastebin.com/m3600fc8b
[21:16] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/m3600fc8b
[21:17] <Guest83990> Empathy is trash!
[21:17] <Guest83990> I can't identify my nickname.
[21:17] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: your local machine ...
[21:17] <mate> johnmn3: ah ok, well then no i don't get an ip, in wlan0
[21:17] <Guest83990> It doesn't save my preferences.
[21:17] <Guest83990> Crashes all the time.
[21:17] <johnmn3> mate: and you said "sudo dhclient" in the console didn't help?
[21:17] <DasEi> johnmn3: install pastebinit
[21:18] <gui77> wait, then how would i use wipe?
[21:18] <gui77> would it be: wipe /
[21:18] <mate> johnmn3: no, it didn't
[21:18] <gui77> because that wouldn't erase my partition table would it?
[21:18] <DasEi> gui77: man wipe
[21:18] <gui77> i've done man wipe :P
[21:18] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
[21:18] <gui77> still dont get it, because i want to wipe the *entire* hard drive
[21:18] <johnmn3> mate: ok, have you tried setting an ip address manually from the network manager utility?
[21:19] <incidence> Yea, I don't like it much either
[21:19] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: k, basic terms from now on:
[21:19] <mnaines> gui77: First find the hard drive label like sda, sdb, or whatever, then type wipe /dev/harddrivedesignation
[21:19] <David_> anyone know what is the easiest/best backup/img solution for a win/nix enviorment where ubuntu will run the server portion?
[21:19] <johnmn3> mate: something like 192.168.1.101, depending on your network.
[21:19] <kamola> that's why i think ubuntu is totally crap
[21:19] <gui77> ah ok mnaines
[21:19] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: trWifi = terminal on belkin-pc,  roger ?
[21:19] <guntbert> !best | David_
[21:19] <johnmn3> David_: there's something like freeghost.. can't remember the name
[21:19] <Happehwalrus> Go to terminal, type trWifi?
[21:20] <kamola> ubuntu isn't able to handle standard filetypes
[21:20] <Dutchy> bah, i've explicitly changed the alsa conf file for options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-digout but my headset still doesnt work
[21:20] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: no, but I give you commands, like trWifi: lspci              you enter lspci on belkin comp
[21:20] <losha> kamola: stop whining and ask a technical question
[21:20] <johnmn3> David_: FOG, it was called.. "Free Open Ghost" or something.. but I remember "FOG"
[21:21] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: trWifi: nano /etc/network/interfaces
[21:21] <mate> johnmn3: i checked network tools, and i have the ip address 192.168.1.67 but no net
[21:21] <johnmn3> wow, that bot sure is pedantic
[21:21] <kamola> technical question? it can't handley my belkkin usb stick
[21:21] <vigo> !backup | David_
[21:21] <kamola> why?
[21:21] <kamola> what can i do?
[21:22] <David_> ubottu thanks...sorry i wasn't lookin for a poll
[21:22] <DasEi> kamola: watch hapethwalrus, same issue
[21:22] <johnmn3> mate: is your gateway 192.168.1.1?
[21:22] <Happehwalrus> nano /ect/network/interfaces?!
[21:22] <Happehwalrus> bawww!R%@JK)WEGO(_hwnop
[21:22] <Happehwalrus> wrhyni
[21:22] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: yes, in trml of belkin machine
[21:23] <Happehwalrus> oic.
[21:23] <fearful> Is there any way to remove with wildcards? Let's say I want to remove all the .jpg files in a folder?
[21:23] <thedude42> kamola, what have you done besides plugged int he usb stick?
[21:23] <johnmn3> mate: if so, can you "ping 192.168.1.1" ??
[21:23] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: you see a line starting : iface eth0    ?
[21:24] <mate> johnmn3: how can i change my ip from the console?
[21:24] <Happehwalrus> I typed that in, there's nothing.
[21:24] <mate> johnmn3: no, it says that network is unreachable
[21:24] <Happehwalrus> liek there is new file, all kinds of shit.
[21:25] <johnmn3> mate: you ought not have to, if you already have one.. hmm.. from the utility that told you what your IP address was, does it say what your gateway is?
[21:25] <mate> yes, 192.168.1.254
[21:25] <mnaines> fearful: Try *.jpg
[21:25] <johnmn3> ah, ping that
[21:26] <biznock09> none of the torrents i get actually download in my transmission program any ideas?
[21:26] <ViRii[K]> I was reading this guide http://polishlinux.org/choose/comparison/?distro1=Fedora&distro2=Ubuntu and it says that Ubuntu supports amd64 and i386.. does it not support x86_64?
[21:26] <ddo> how can I run nvidia-xconfig as a root?
[21:26] <mate> johnmn3: no it is unreachable
[21:26] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: ctrl&x to close it
[21:27] <ddo> help me pls how can I run nvidia-xconfig as a root?
[21:27] <DasEi> sudo in front, ddo
[21:27] <johnmn3> mate: but you can ping your own address, right?
[21:27] <Happehwalrus> DASEI: What do you want me to do?!
[21:27] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: trWifi: nano /etc/network/interfaces
[21:27] <ddo> DasEi: i ll try ty
[21:28] <biznock09>  none of the torrents i get actually download in my transmission program any ideas?
[21:28] <mate> i can ping 127.0.0.1 only
[21:28] <mate> johnmn3: how do i manually change my ip from the terminal?
[21:28] <johnmn3> wasn't your IP 192.168.1.67 or something?
[21:28] <mnaines> mate, from my networking experience, that usually indicates a problem with the line
[21:29] <johnmn3> mate... mmm, something like ifconfig wlan0 ip 192.168.1.101
[21:29] <johnmn3> or maybe adding the subnet mask on there too
[21:29] <vigo> ViRii[K]: Yes it does, since Feisty, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=443978, I will find the official docs on it...
[21:29] <Happehwalrus> DasEi: What to do now?
[21:29] <mnaines> johnmn3: You have to do that through iwconfig, not ifconfig
[21:29] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: that file is empty ?
[21:30] <Happehwalrus> Yes.
[21:30] <johnmn3> mate: aigh, might have to use iwconfig
[21:30] <mnaines> johnmn3: iwconfig address I think is the right command
[21:30] <johnmn3> with a sudo
[21:30] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: are you on jaunty ?
[21:30] <ddo> relog
[21:30] <biznock09>  none of the torrents i get actually download in my transmission program any ideas?
[21:30] <Happehwalrus> 9.04, yes.
[21:31] <mnaines> mate, try iwconfig wlan0 address ipaddress and see if that does anything
[21:31] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: sure no typo ? /etc/network/interfaces ?
[21:31] <quellhorst> is lokkit the best console based firewall config app?
[21:31] <quellhorst> also, cant seem to find the package to install it with 9.04
[21:31] <mate> mnaines: unknown command, address
[21:32] <kamola> thedude24: thx for trying to help me but i'm very busy in the moment
[21:32] <Stronze> i cant get my externel DVD drive to work and dev/cdrom doesnt exsist.
[21:32] <mnaines> mate: Sorry, I am unable to test these commands myself because I am currently using wipe in terminal, so I cannot type in the commands to test them.  Try iwconfig -h to get a list of commands
[21:32] <fccf> quellhorst: recommend ufw ... works well with configuring firewalls
[21:32] <teknozwizard> Guess whose running XChat.
[21:32] <fccf> !info ufw | quellhorst
[21:33] <fccf> quellhorst: and it is standard ... man ufw for more info on syntax
[21:33] <quellhorst> cool, ufw is smiple
[21:33] <teknozwizard> I just finished installing Ubuntu JJ on my laptop. So far, I'm loving it greatly.
[21:34] <teknozwizard> My question is, is this the same #Ubuntu channel as it is if I'd be using mIRC through Windows?
[21:34] <fccf> teknozwizard: yes
[21:34] <teknozwizard> sweet.
[21:34] <johnmn3> mate: mate, try sudo ifconfig wlan0 <desired-address>
[21:34] <teknozwizard> Lefty: Look dude! I did it and it was thanks to your advice!
[21:34] <mnaines> teknozwizard: no matter how you connect to IRC, it is the same channel regardless
[21:34] <mate> johnmn3: ok
[21:35] <paul_s> anyone ? i need help in a pm to install vbox i tried 3 times now
[21:35] <biznock09> any suggestions on printers that have drivers that run  with ubuntu
[21:35] <lolmac> hi
[21:35] <teknozwizard> Now if I could just figure out how to set the time right. It's 5 hours off..
[21:35] <DasEi> paul_s: why pm ?
[21:35] <RegressLess> how do I set a partition to mount at startup?
[21:35] <lolmac> i updated ubuntu, and my wired ethernet connection doesn't work no more
[21:35] <lolmac> only the wireless works know
[21:35] <lolmac> wat happened?
[21:35] <johnmn3> mate: or try sudo ifconfig wlan0 add <desired-address>
[21:35] <DasEi> !fstab | RegressLess
[21:36] <johnmn3> not really sure
[21:36] <lolmac> why the wired stopped working?
[21:36] <paul_s> for everyone else not to have to put up with me thats a why
[21:36] <lolmac> :-(
[21:36] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: locate the file via places grafically
[21:36] <paul_s> for everyone else not to have to put up with me that is why
[21:36] <johnmn3> lolmac: strange: mine did too
[21:36] <tvjudge> Can someone please point me in the right direction. I have a RAID setup but I am having a brain fart regarding how to mount it?
[21:36] <yunien> hi, slightly offtopic: somebody knows how not to loose the Amazon EC2 instance everytime you power off the machine?
[21:36] <paul_s> i am a newbie
[21:36] <JockyWilson> Hi, Amarok 1.4 fetch covers from Amazon is this broken?
[21:36] <Stronze> i cant get my externel DVD drive to work and dev/cdrom doesnt exsist. need help getting it to run again
[21:37] <lolmac> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1155823.html
[21:37] <quellhorst> man some of the mirrors are so slow. it sucks to go from > 3MB/sec to 80KB/sec :(
[21:37] <ViRii[K]> For multimedia work (Visual Effects / Graphici Design / Video Editing) do you guys recommend Ubuntu 9 or Fedora 11? (I understand that this is an Ubuntu channel, but hopefully you'll be able to steer me in the right direction wihtout being biased :P)
[21:37] <DasEi> paul_s: k,  went to vbox homepage and d/l the *deb ?
[21:37] <paul_s> i installed vbox, and xp and had no usb
[21:37] <paul_s> can t fix it , hours wasted
[21:37] <fccf> JockyWilson: that's Karmic ... not here please
[21:37] <fccf> !karmic
[21:37] <paul_s> marked for complete removal atm
[21:37] <vigo> biznock09: Have you used Synaptic to look for the driver and are the Restricted or other settings loaded?
[21:38] <biznock09> no
[21:38] <paul_s> ready to delet the thing
[21:38] <johnmn3> quelhorst: try 1kb a second
[21:38] <paul_s> shall i ?
[21:38] <biznock09> vigo: what is that
[21:38] <thedude42> !livid
[21:38] <quellhorst> johnmn3: haha, you get t hat?
[21:38] <vigo> biznock09: Do you know what Synaptic Package Manager is?
[21:38] <biznock09> Vigo: yes
[21:38] <DasEi> paul_s: this is ubuntu support, not vbox ;; the repos won't fit usb-support, get it from vbox hp, additional install guest.additions in your vm's (##virtualbox)
[21:38] <biznock09> i meant to say how do i look for it
[21:38] <johnmn3> quellhorst: poor satellite connection
[21:38] <thedude42> !10.04
[21:38]  * quellhorst is still in shock that he has fiber to the home :)
[21:38] <kilo> If I uninstalled something via Wine, anyone know how to remove the link from the Applications menu?
[21:39] <JockyWilson> fccf - Ubuntu 9.04 Amarok fetch covers from Amazon does not work any longer
[21:39] <gbear142751> I'm trying to figure out what packages I installed when I selected the virtual machine host during the install process for 9.04 server... can someone suggest some documentation or a search term... google isn't really returning anything useful.
[21:39] <vigo> biznock09: Do you know about Restricted,Multiverse and such packages?
[21:39] <thedude42> gbear142751, lib-virt
[21:39] <quellhorst> johnmn3: i feel your pain. I have had to get on my verizon wireless or at&t tethering connection many times
[21:39] <Fox3211> Can I load grub after windows7 install? or does it have to be partitioned in before?
[21:39] <thedude42> or libvirt, rather
[21:39] <gbear142751> thedude42: that it?
[21:39] <fccf> JockyWilson: I beleive there has already been a bug reported, we had someone yesterday asking.. that is how I know, it affects both Jaunty and karmic
[21:39] <biznock09> vigo: no
[21:40] <johnmn3> quellhorst: synaptice upgrade says I have 29 days remaining
[21:40] <DasEi> Fox3211: it mostly works, but better backup mbr before
[21:40] <quellhorst> lol
[21:40] <vigo> !restricted | biznock09
[21:40] <thedude42> gbear142751, kvm was probably also included, but libvirt is that main set of tools
[21:40] <quellhorst> johnmn3: by that time the new version will be out
[21:40] <quellhorst> isnt it due in like 14 days?
[21:40] <johnmn3> quellhorst: right
[21:40] <JockyWilson> ic dam nuisance
[21:40] <johnmn3> well, I gotta run.. good luck everyone
[21:40] <quellhorst> you could do like me and move to get a better connect
[21:40] <quellhorst> johnmn3: cya
[21:40] <teknozwizard> this is irritating..
[21:40] <gbear142751> thedude42: great!  thanks... just wanted to make sure i didn't install too much extra stuff to the server but that sounds about perfect
[21:40] <biznock09> thanks
[21:41] <sdss> hello
[21:41] <teknozwizard> I can't figure out how to change the time....
[21:41] <biznock09> Ubottu do you know much about transmission
[21:41] <biznock09> ?
[21:41] <teknozwizard> can't just double click it! be damned to you smarter people!
[21:41] <johnmn3> exit
[21:41] <johnmn3> oops
[21:41] <mnaines> !transmission | biznock09
[21:41] <vigo> biznock09: I am not saying that it is a restricted device, is best to look at the Hardware site from Ubuntu to see if the device is listed and in what part or section of the repos it is in.
[21:41] <Fox3211> DasEi: I cuurentely have no mbr because I am installing windows first time, and I think I can just use windows to format hd but wanted to verify with you first if I can still use grub if I let windows format hd?
[21:41] <thedude42> gbear142751, yeah, those are most of it.... you can try apt-cache shopkg virtual-host and see what that spits back
[21:41] <sdss> !linux
[21:41] <thedude42> s/shopkg/showpkg/
[21:41] <Mohammad[B]> Hi all
[21:42] <biznock09> Vigo: ok thanks any experience in transmission
[21:42] <guntbert> teknozwizard: what about right click on the applet?
[21:42] <lolmac> it's usual in ubuntu the network  ethernet adapter stop working?
[21:42] <Mohammad[B]> how i can download youtube videos in HD on Ubuntu ? :-s please help me
[21:42] <gbear142751> thedude42: run that on the server I take it?  Not too cli saavy yet
[21:42] <lolmac> is this normal?
[21:42] <kilo> If I uninstalled something via Wine, anyone know how to remove the link from the Applications menu?
[21:42] <biznock09> Mnaines:  can you help?
[21:42] <Hacker> hi
[21:42] <mnaines> biznock09: Sorry, I don't know anything about transmission
[21:42] <thedude42> yeah, when you want to know anything about packages, the apt-cache tool is your friend
[21:42] <teknozwizard> Guntbert: Thanks for the tip.
[21:42] <guntbert> kilo: right click on applications - edit menus...
[21:42] <Hacker> hi
[21:43] <guntbert> teknozwizard: you are welcome :-)
[21:43] <kilo> guntbert, Thanks!!
[21:43] <vigo> biznock09: Some, yes, here is the Hardware List, or a Hardware List: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/
[21:43] <teknozwizard> For some reason I had to break out my wireless mouse to right click. Stupid Dell touchpad right click button isn't work very well right now.
[21:43] <thedude42> gbear142751, on the cli type 'man apt-cache' and that should tlel you more than you ever wanted to know
[21:43] <DasEi> Fox3211:yes, can do so, but ask in #windows on how to backup your mbr, most times grub copes with win (xp) , be sure, it won't break the whole install, anyway
[21:43] <Hacker> milaei kaneis ellinika?
[21:43] <ikonia> Hacker: please speak English
[21:43] <sdss> !nfs
[21:44] <TimothyA> ikonia; he is speaking english, except on a much higher level, because he's a hacker!
[21:44] <thedude42> !ipsec
[21:44] <gbear142751> thedude42: lol, my bad, guess a rtfm is in order.  Thanks I'll look into it
[21:44] <biznock09> Vigo: thanks for the hardware list.  My transmission dl's just sit idle and never dl, any thoughts?
[21:44] <ikonia> TimothyA: please don't be silly
[21:44] <fccf> Fox3211: if you install windows on the first partition, install linux on the second partition and make sure that grub gets written to the second partition, after installing switch the boot flag to the linux(grub) drive then modify /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:44] <TimothyA> we can solely just not understand his gibbe...ehm, i mean, highly intellectual discussion
[21:44] <fccf> Fox3211: to add windows to the grub list
[21:44] <thedude42> gbear142751, no sweat, knowing what to man for isn't always intuitive at first
[21:44] <googlix> Hello.. I've just installed amarok2 on ubuntu 9.04...
[21:44] <googlix> there is no sound here...
[21:45] <shawnmstout> hello, how can you configure a microphone to work on ubuntu, like what can you type in?
[21:45] <OmnipotentEntity> So, sometimes when I scp it stalls and when it stalls I can't scp again until I unload and load my driver.  AR5001X+ using ath_pci module (ath5k doesn't work) anyone have any idea wtf is going on?
[21:45] <googlix> rhythmbox works fine
[21:45] <vigo> biznock09: I would think to check Hardware first, lines, cables, plugs, then I would test or look at the Network Setup and make certain it is correct for your needs.
[21:45] <gbear142751> thedude42: my biggest question was I wasn't sure if the metapackages it asks if you want to install during setup correlated to packages directly...
[21:45] <fccf> googlix: rythymbox uses gstreamer, amarok uses xine ... you are missing plugins
[21:46] <fretegi2> hey guys
[21:46] <mnaines> TimothyA: True hackers never tell anyone they are hackers
[21:46] <ikonia> mnaines: please don't start that sort of dicussion
[21:46] <teknozwizard> wtf mate....
[21:46] <teknozwizard> where'd my gnome-mud go?
[21:46] <googlix> fccf: that makes sense...
[21:46] <fretegi2> hey guys, troubleshooting a mic issue
[21:46] <thedude42> gbear142751, yeah they do, and you'll find out which with either the dpkg tool or apt-cache... and apt-cache looks at stuff int he repos, not just deb packages on your local machine
[21:46] <fretegi2> no worky
[21:47] <fretegi2> any thoughts?
[21:47] <paissad-hp> hi all
[21:47] <googlix> fccf: I'm going to install it now... thank you!
[21:47] <teknozwizard> nvm
[21:47] <ZoeyMarie> I have two kernals in my grub/menu.lst that appear to be exactly the same (except for the quiet/splash parameters), can I just delete the ones that I don't want?
[21:47] <paissad-hp> would you like to propose a light web browser for ubuntu
[21:47] <teknozwizard> who knows how to mask your IP address?
[21:47] <fretegi2> epiphany
[21:47] <paissad-hp> i searched for iceweasel just like debian, but i cannot find it !
[21:47] <vigo> Epiphany
[21:47] <fretegi2> very light, ff 3.5 faster tho imo
[21:47] <ikonia> teknozwizard: ask in #freenode for a cloak
[21:47] <paissad-hp> ok, thanks
[21:47] <DasEi> paissad-hp: or seamonkey
[21:47] <kilo> Anyone know how I can easily add a custom icon to a launcher?  I know it's a longshot... it seems to be an involved process.
[21:47] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, yeah you can, but if you want the diagnostic boot options at boot you might want to leave the others
[21:48] <fccf> ZoeyMarie: you can, uh, I'd backup first though, incase you break something, ... are you sure one of those isn't recovery mode?
[21:48] <ZoeyMarie> it doesn't say recovery mode after it... I want a recovery mode one, but it's not there...
[21:48] <vigo> !iceweasel
[21:49] <ZoeyMarie> fccf: is recovery mode just another copy of the kernel?
[21:49] <biznock09> Vigo:  Im sure cables and plugs wont be an issue however drivers and software yes
[21:49] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: diagnostic boot options?
[21:49] <fccf> ZoeyMarie: same kernel, just single-user mode, which is recovery mode
[21:49] <Stronze> i cant get my externel DVD drive to work and dev/cdrom doesnt exsist. need help getting it to run again
[21:50] <fccf> kilo: right click on launcher, properties ... in properties dialog click on the icon
[21:50] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, typically you'll have one that does single user mode, but if it's a new install they have one that goes to a recovery options menu
[21:50] <scott9876> has anyone used moblin, any good?
[21:50] <meoblast001> hi
[21:50] <meoblast001> is it safe to compile Qt2 on Ubuntu 9.04?
[21:50] <meoblast001> it appears to have been removed from the repos
[21:50] <ZoeyMarie> fccf: thedude42: how do I know if one is single user modE?
[21:50] <kilo> fccf Wow... I've been trying to find that for hours!!  thank you!!!
[21:50] <ikonia> meoblast001: safe if you know what you're doing and how to manage it
[21:51] <pawel_> j
[21:51] <vigo> biznock09: I am just running it by the numbers, I am certain you would not be surprised to hear a client say, My dl stopped!? and then a power cord was kicked out by a doggy. Stuff happens. I am just covering all the bases as I know them.
[21:51] <pawel_> hej
[21:51] <meoblast001> ikonia: never compiled Qt before
[21:51] <meoblast001> but i want kexedit
[21:51] <meoblast001> khexedit
[21:51] <crazy2be> Why is my firefox not automatically upgraded to the latest version (3.5)?
[21:51] <meoblast001> and it only has Qt2 support
[21:51] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, i beleive using the option 'single' before the root declaration in grub does that
[21:51] <biznock09> vigo: understood
[21:52] <biznock09> vigo: im wireless and right now and the dl just never beggins
[21:52] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: can you tell me if this is set up right? these are the kernels that are listed: http://pastebin.com/d7869405c
[21:52] <Fox3211> crazy2be: i am pretty sure it will be in karmic
[21:52] <thedude42> but i'm not certain that order actually matters
[21:52] <biznock09> vigo: it loads into transmission but just sitts idle even after a forced dl
[21:52] <vigo> biznock09: Is the wlan or connection good and stable?
[21:53] <biznock09> yes
[21:53] <crazy2be> Why does it take so long to update? Windows users had the latest firefox months ago
[21:53] <Pici> !ff35 | crazy2be
[21:53] <ikonia> crazy2be: because it's intergrated into the desktop
[21:53] <biznock09> vigo: im connected right now and talking on this server i would assume my conex is good
[21:53] <teknozwizard> I have to go. I'll probably be back soon. Gotta update my new linux.
[21:53] <teknozwizard> (grins)
[21:53] <paissad-hp> i installed epiphany, but it bugged too, just as firefox did, it's about the nphelix.so plugin
[21:53] <zleap> can i upgrade open office from 2.4 toa later version on 8.10
[21:53] <paissad-hp> i started those apps by the console
[21:54] <vigo> biznock09: Any Firewalls or Rulesets that could be stopping or disrupting certain packets or certain severs?
[21:54] <fretegi2> anyone use teamspeak?
[21:54] <teknozwizard> <--- looks so proud of his newbie-self!
[21:54] <manojmalik> how i connect net in ubuntu 9.04 on my dell 1525
[21:54] <biznock09> vigo: couldn't tell you
[21:54] <ddo> DasEi: ty
[21:54] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, yeah they look fine, and that does seem like the only difference.... no quiet/splash, 2 different kernels
[21:54] <biznock09> vigo: how could i check that?
[21:54] <fretegi2> anyone here use teamspeak on ubuntu?
[21:54] <lolmac> man, i'm starting to think ubuntu is cursed
[21:54] <DasEi> ddo: welcome !
[21:54] <ikonia> fretegi2: just ask your question
[21:54] <Happehwalrus> bawww
[21:55] <fretegi2> i cannot get mic to work in ubuntu, namely teamspeak
[21:55] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: should I have one that is a recovery mode or diagnostic one? like, should I delete the extras and then add one in?
[21:55] <Happehwalrus> I think I should have kept Winblows.
[21:55] <fretegi2> im thinking it has something to do with alsa but not sure how to troubleshoot
[21:55] <vigo> biznock09: Ping the source and check the output.
[21:55] <ikonia> fretegi2: does it work in ubuntu - or just not work in team speak
[21:55] <ikonia> Happehwalrus: it's called windows, it's not cool to call it stupid names
[21:55] <fretegi2> not working at all
[21:55] <fretegi2> just a 3.5mm mic
[21:55] <ikonia> fretegi2: ok - so the problem is nothing to do with teamspeak, so best not to ask for teamspeak help
[21:55] <meoblast001> ikonia: Monopolysoft Windows?
[21:56] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, usually there is a recovery option, how did you do this install?  I notice you have a realtime kernel installed
[21:56] <crazy2be> quote from the description of the "firefox" package in ubutu: This is a meta package that will point to the latest firefox package in ubuntu.
[21:56] <crazy2be> Don't remove this if you want to receive automatic major version upgrades for
[21:56] <crazy2be> this package in future.
[21:56] <biznock09> vigo: ok
[21:56] <ikonia> meoblast001: please don't
[21:56] <meoblast001> >.<
[21:56] <crazy2be> so why isn't it pointing to the 3.5 package?
[21:56] <ZoeyMarie> I updated the Juanty install that I had with the ubuntu studio packages (for audio production stuff).
[21:56] <manojmalik> net in ubuntu?
[21:56] <biznock09> vigo: how do i ping the source?
[21:56] <jer_> whats best way to see where my glib dirs are?
[21:56] <paissad-hp> so, i would like to rename all results of this command from the origal name , for example /usr/***/nphelix.so to the same name with the suffix .bak
[21:56] <fretegi2> so how do i troubleshoot the mic?
[21:57] <paissad-hp> locate nphelix.so | xargs mv ??????
[21:57] <ikonia> jer_: /usr/lib
[21:57] <fccf> crazy2be: firefox not shiretoko, 3.5 hasn't been branded yet, it is called shiretoko
[21:57] <paissad-hp> thanks for helping
[21:57] <jer_> hrm
[21:57] <vigo> biznock09: Do you have the IP of whatever you are trying to fetch from?
[21:57] <Stronze> i cant get my externel DVD drive to work and dev/cdrom doesnt exsist. need help getting it to run again
[21:57] <luthor64> ciao
[21:57] <crazy2be> so you won't brand the 3.5 update
[21:57] <biznock09> no
[21:57] <biznock09> vigo: no
[21:57] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: I updated the Juanty install that I had with the ubuntu studio packages (for audio production stuff).
[21:57] <fretegi2> brb
[21:57] <gbear142751> anyone have any opinions on convirt vs kvm?  isn't much out there... will be using kvm
[21:57] <crazy2be> because it's not the "official" browser
[21:58] <gbear142751> sorry... convrit vs virt-manager
[21:58] <crazy2be> no offence, but that's just stupid
[21:58] <fccf> crazy2be: it will be branded in the future ... just not yet, they are still working out the bugs
[21:58] <biznock09> vigo: i go to torrentz.com run a search and i am currently dl'n from piratebay.org
[21:58] <crazy2be> of firefox 3.5?
[21:58] <OmnipotentEntity> So, sometimes when I scp it stalls and when it stalls I can't scp again until I unload and load my driver.  AR5001X+ using ath_pci module (ath5k doesn't work) anyone have any idea wtf is going on?
[21:58] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: is it possible to get a recovery mode one since I don't have one?
[21:58] <guntbert> !ot | gbear142751
[21:59] <kjcole> Hi. When using OpenOffice.org Writer under Ubuntu (9.04 "Jaunty") and deleting a file from the File / Open dialog, how do I get it to use the Trash folder rather than deleting directly?
[21:59] <fccf> crazy2be: the windows and linux teams at mozilla seem to operate on a different schedule
[21:59] <vigo> biznock09: Oh ok, are you using a client or web browser?
[21:59] <crazy2be> ah
[21:59] <Fretegi_1> ok back, how do i trouble shoot athe mic, it does work in windows on the same machine
[21:59] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, well, now that I've looked at mine, the only thing that the 'recovery mode' does different is add the 'single' option to the kernel line, so it seems that the menu to which I referred earlier is just implemented by ubuntu's runlevel 1
[21:59] <crazy2be> so firefox 3.5 is not actually final for linux yet
[21:59] <crazy2be> ok
[21:59] <Fretegi_1> intrepid 64 bit is my ubuntu load
[21:59] <crazy2be> then it makes sence
[21:59] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: trWifi:  modprobe | grep usbcore
[21:59] <biznock09> web
[21:59] <biznock09> vigo: web
[22:00] <Happehwalrus> yey. DasEi's alive.
[22:00] <fccf> crazy2be: it is software, it is never final, because something else always changes, requireing change
[22:00] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie: so if you want a recovery mode option, just copy one of those and add 'dingle' to the end of the kernel line, and put something meaningful in the title
[22:00] <vigo> biznock09: Maybe you would have better results with one of the torrent clients.
[22:00] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: should return : rt2870sta,  is so ?
[22:00] <Happehwalrus> Wait wait.
[22:00] <Happehwalrus> What do you want me to do, DasEi?
[22:00] <biznock09> vigo: for example?
[22:00] <DasEi> Happehwalrus: trWifi:  modprobe | grep usbcore
[22:00] <Happehwalrus> modprobe?
[22:01] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: so keep one of the copies, change the title to have (recovery mode) in it, and then add 'single' to the end of the kernel line... sounds do-able...
[22:01] <Happehwalrus> Terminal, type in modprobe | grep usbcore?
[22:01] <thedude42>  yeah that will give you
[22:01] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, yeah that will give you a 'recovery mode' option at boot
[22:02] <Fretegi_1> got it guys thanks for ur help
[22:02] <Fretegi_1> take care
[22:02] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42:  the 'single' goes after the 'ro' at the end of the line, right? And what exactly does that do?
[22:02] <seyfarth> is there a way to extend my gnome panels onto my second monitor? ideally i'd like applications to show up on the bottom panel according to which monitor they're on
[22:03] <vigo> biznock09: There are many, I think BitTorrent is packaged with Gnome, but let me look.
[22:03] <googlix> fccf: people, as fccf said, to solve amaroks' 2 no sound problem just install xine: apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg phonon-backend-xine, thank you man!
[22:03] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, yeah, what that does is it tells the kernel to boot to single user mode
[22:03] <biznock09> vigo: thanks
[22:03] <ddo> how can i give efect to screen i see on youtube the desktop like square 8-)
[22:03] <lolmac> how do i become administrator of ubuntu?
[22:04] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, in single user mode you don't have most things, and the only user that can access the system is root
[22:04] <fccf> googlix: glad I could help
[22:04] <lolmac> it seems i don't have permission to do anything
[22:04] <ikonia> lolmac: what do you mean ?
[22:04] <ikonia> lolmac: have you used sudo
[22:04] <lolmac> how do i change that?
[22:04] <lolmac> ikonia: i want to change systemfiles
[22:04] <ikonia> lolmac: have you used sudo
[22:04] <lolmac> yes
[22:04] <googlix> fccf: :D
[22:04] <bietz> hi, I'm running 9.04 and I'm having sound problems (since 8.10) on my dell xps M1530. Sound simply doesn't work (and when it worked on 8.04, it was pretty bad). Do you know how I can solve this?
[22:04] <lolmac> wait
[22:04] <ikonia> lolmac: show me the command that's not working please
[22:04] <lolmac> koni
[22:04] <seyfarth> lolmac, you aren't advised to just log in as root. you should use the sudo prefix before commands in the terminal to do things requiring root
[22:04] <lolmac> ikonia:
[22:04] <lolmac> no
[22:04] <FloodBot2> lolmac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <ikonia> !sudo | lolmac
[22:05] <kilo> seyfarth, I think the only way to do what you're describing is to have 2 separate X Screen sessions running, which can cause a load of issues. But that would definitely solve the "I want to have programs show up on the panel of whatever monitor they're running on" issues
[22:05] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: so it's just good for repairing stuff? I'm a little confused about it, since I've never used it, but I can just check up some more information about it in the community documentation or something.
[22:05] <vigo> biznock09: Here is a list, http://search.ubuntu.com/results2.html?cx=009650792990864903260%3A-lsdjshi1tu&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=bittorrent&sa=Search#1195
[22:05] <ZoeyMarie> thank you a bunch. :)
[22:05] <innomen> i goto update manager the only update i see is "fakeroot" its 122 bytes and when i try to apply it i get... an error message that wont let me copy it
[22:05] <seyfarth> kilo, Aww, well thanks anyways.
[22:05] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: should I have a recovery mode for each kernal, or just one?
[22:05] <lolmac> ikonia: i want to change this content of an "txt" system file, i have to do it using terminal sudo, or can i edit the text normally?
[22:05] <ikonia> ZoeyMarie: you need it for each kernel
[22:05] <ZoeyMarie> like, should my realtime kernel have it's own recovery mode?
[22:06] <ZoeyMarie> ikonia: thanks.
[22:06] <vigo> biznock09: Here is the Ubuntu list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BitTorrent
[22:06] <ikonia> lolmac: how would you normally change the system file you want, what command would you normally do ?
[22:06] <innomen> Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic '--hide-main-window' '--non-interactive' '--parent-window-id' '37748773' '-o' 'Synaptic::closeZvt=true' '--progress-str' 'Please wait, this can take some time.' '--finish-str' 'Update is complete' '--set-selections-file' '/tmp/tmpqzAjXR' as user root. Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[22:06] <kilo> seyfarth, no worries... I just spent 2 days calibrating both my monitors.  I've been trying to learn the ins and outs of both regular X Screen and Twinview... Twinview is winning hands down so far for ease-of-use.
[22:07] <lolmac> ikonia: i don't know i don't use ubuntu i use windows
[22:07] <lolmac> i'm new to ubuntu
[22:07] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, yeah, you'd use it when you had problems you couldn't solve normally, mostly for broken file system problems.... and in all reality you don't even need to have an entry in your menu.list file because you can add the 'single' option at the grub boot menu at boot time
[22:07] <bietz> I tried some stuff like killing pulseaudio and reloading alsa, and sometimes it works, but sound still won't work on reboots
[22:07] <ohmletzboom> ..
[22:07] <ohmletzboom> Hi'there
[22:07] <ikonia> lolmac: ok - the first thing you should do is read the links ubottu sent you a minute ago, then go to help.ubuntu.com and get a basic overview/introduction to ubuntu
[22:07] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie: that is to say, whether you have one for each kernel or not is purly up to you
[22:07] <lolmac> on windows i just was administrator and edited the file
[22:07] <lolmac> ikonia: i used ubuntu before, but i got a problem with pppoconf
[22:08] <lolmac> ikonia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1239964
[22:08] <ikonia> lolmac: that doesn't change what I suggested, you just said you where new, so you need to get a base understanding of the basics
[22:08] <seyfarth> Anyone have any experience using chromium on ubuntu? I installed, but when I try to open it nothing happens
[22:08] <lolmac> ikonia: can i query you?
[22:08] <ikonia> lolmac: why ?
[22:08] <fccf> bietz: by killing pulse you have proven that pulse is broken on your system... we hope to have pulse running better, but until it does, uninstalling pulseaudio may solve some of your problems, allowing alsa to take over and do the job
[22:08] <ikonia> lolmac: just ask in the channel
[22:08] <lolmac> i don't want to spam the channel
[22:09] <ZoeyMarie> thedude42: thank you
[22:09] <bietz> fccf I have in fact uninstalled pulseaudio
[22:09] <ikonia> lolmac: you don't need to spam anything, check the links ubottu sent you and the basics on http://help.ubuntu.com
[22:09] <thedude42> ZoeyMarie, no prob
[22:09] <ikonia> !sudo > lolmac
[22:09] <lolmac> ikonia: can you take a look at the link i showed you?
[22:09] <kilo> does anyone have any suggestions of some drivers I might need to download? I'm trying to view youtube and certain vids will load while others will not. any ideas why this may be? I'm running 9.04 and mozilla 3.0
[22:09] <ikonia> lolmac: I don't need to, check the documentation you've just been pointed at
[22:09] <bietz> fccf but sound still doesn't work unless I do an alsa reload or something from command line, and after that, sound quality is still very bad
[22:10] <thedude42> kilo: flash
[22:10] <vigo> !flash | kilo
[22:10] <kilo> thedude42, I have flash. The most recent plugin from what I can tell
[22:10] <thedude42> kilo: you probably want to get linux flash 10
[22:11] <Stronze> i cant get my externel DVD drive to work and dev/cdrom doesnt exsist. need help getting it to run again
[22:11] <ikonia> !gksudo > lolmac
[22:11] <lolmac> ikonia: i'm not english native, i know the normal stuff about english, but specific terms can get confusing
[22:11] <kilo> thedude42, ahhh....  that could be it!  thanks!
[22:11] <fccf> bietz: really cannot help you further ,... have you tried searching around to see what other people are writing about your particular hardware conifguration, ubuntuforums.org is an incredible resource
[22:11] <lolmac> ikonia: i saw a suggestion of an user in this link, but i didn't understand it quite well
[22:11] <kilo> vigo, thanks for the link
[22:11] <thedude42> kilo: did you download and install it from directions on a site, or just from the ubuntu repositories with apt-get?
[22:11] <ikonia> lolmac: I'm talking to you in native English, the links ubottu have just sent you are very basic, you'll have no problems
[22:11] <ikonia> lolmac: what don't you understand in that thread
[22:11] <vigo> kilo: You are welcome.
[22:12] <fccf> lolmac: perhaps we can get someone who speaks your native language .. what is your native tounge?
[22:12] <lolmac> !flood
[22:12] <lolmac> fccf: it's just a word
[22:12] <lolmac> i'll show it to  you
[22:12] <ikonia> lolmac: what line don't you understand
[22:12] <kilo> thedude42, I downloaded the adobe verision
[22:12] <bietz> fccf: all I found that worked was that tip on reloading alsa, but I guess I can search deeper...
[22:12] <ikonia> lolmac: what word - say the word
[22:12] <kilo> version*
[22:12] <thedude42> kilo, disregard, that link will take care of you
[22:12] <ddo> how can i give efect to my ubuntu :)
[22:12] <lolmac> but it is on a context
[22:12] <lolmac> i will paste on ubuntu paste
[22:13] <kilo> thedude42, vigo, unfortunately, it says I already have it installed.   =\
[22:13] <lolmac> Re: Auto eth0 disappeared and stopped working
[22:13] <lolmac> Try commenting out everything except the two (top) lines about "lo", and reboot. If it messes things up, you can put it back, but if an interface is defined in /etc/network/interfaces, NM is not supposed to touch it.
[22:13] <lolmac> what is commenting out?
[22:13] <ikonia> lolmac: putting a # in front of the lines to make the system not read them
[22:14] <lolmac> thanks
[22:14] <kilo> thedude42, vigo, Like I said, some vids work, others don't... it's the wierdest thing...
[22:14] <fccf> lolmac kinda like rem in dos batch file except we use the #
[22:14] <thedude42> kilo: are you using 64bit or 32bit ubuntu?
[22:14] <vigo> kilo: Is it enabled and are you running any plugins that might thwart it?
[22:14] <kilo> thedude42, 32
[22:15] <lolmac> ikonia, fccf, have you heard of any network eth0 stop working?
[22:15] <ddo> how can i find and install compiz fusion?
[22:15] <lolmac> recently
[22:15] <mnaines> kilo: What Flash version do you have?
[22:15] <thedude42> kilo, so you did sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[22:15] <ikonia> lolmac: yes, the reason is explained in the forum thread
[22:15] <lolmac> thanks
[22:16] <kilo> thedude42, vigo, this is a very fresh install, so not many plug-ins installed at all. I pastebin'd my About Plugins here:   http://pastebin.com/d494ac875
[22:16] <zleap> mine drops but then the router crashes
[22:16] <mnaines> ikonia: Would Wipe restore a drive back to like-new condition?
[22:16] <kilo> thedude42, I did it through adobe's website.
[22:16] <ikonia> mnaines: do you mean a tool called "wipe" ?
[22:17] <kilo> mnaines, Flash 10... Just installed yesterday
[22:17] <lolmac> ikonia: do you know about setting adsl, or lan?
[22:17] <ikonia> lolmac: what about it ?
[22:17]  * one2abuse is away: Gone away for now
[22:17] <ikonia> one2abuse: please remove that script
[22:17] <mnaines> ikonia: Yes...I am using it as we speak, but I am wondering if, after using it, the drive would be as it was out of the box
[22:17] <thedude42> kilo: here's a forum thread with a suggestion: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193567&highlight=FOT004
[22:17] <Stronze> O_O i unpluged and replugged dvd player into laptop and it started to work
[22:17] <ikonia> mnaines: never used it to be honest so don't know
[22:17] <kilo> thedude42, thank you!
[22:18] <lolmac> i've used ubuntu, a few times before, in the previous timess (6.0.6, 7.04) i used pppoeconf to configure my adsl internet connection (a bridged modem accessed through a wireless router)
[22:18] <mnaines> ikonia: As my brother always says, "there is only one way to find out"
[22:18] <Happehwalrus> Mom blames school district for child's porn site visits
[22:18] <lolmac> this time i read the help topics of ubuntu
[22:19] <lolmac> and set it through the network icon next to the date and time
[22:19] <mnaines> Happehwalrus: And that surprises you because...?
[22:19] <lolmac> i went  to adsl, and added a connection, but i couldn't seem to use the eth0 and adsl connection 1 at the same time
[22:20] <lolmac> i had to use on or the other not both
[22:20] <lolmac> so i could access the internet when connected to the adsl connection, but i couldn't access the other computers in the network
[22:21] <lolmac> when i activated the eth0 connection, it was vice-versa
[22:21] <kilo> thedude42, That did it!  Thank you! The tutorial that he gave worked perfect for deleting the plugins and reinstalling.
[22:22] <mnaines> ikonia: Is it just me, or does it seem like Linux is getting plagued with the same problem Windows is plagued with?
[22:22] <lolmac> ikonia: so i went back to pppoeconf and set it to connect to the adsl, as about the same time i started the ubuntu updates.
[22:22] <ikonia> mnaines: don't think so
[22:22] <thedude42> kilo: yeah, I had to do something like that to get things working on 64bit as well
[22:22] <mnaines> ikonia: Windows is plagued with inexperienced users who think the computer will do everything for them
[22:23] <ikonia> mnaines: that's not for this channel
[22:23] <thedude42> mnaines, computing in general has the same problem
[22:23] <lolmac> ikonia: after i rebooted t the computer the auto eth0 stopped working, i remembered i had some problems with pppoeconf when i used it previously, now i don't know if the problem is the update or ppoeconf
[22:23] <Zylstra_> Hello, in an attempted upgrade to 9.10, I have lost control of my mouse. How do I fix this?
[22:23] <alchamech> hello every one, can someone help me with a LCD monitor problem? ive looked everywhere
[22:23] <lolmac> and i'm looking into it
[22:23] <guntbert> mnaines: thats neither true nor helpful
[22:23] <fccf> !karmic | Zylstra_
[22:23] <kilo> thedude42, awesome, well thanks again... now I just need to work on getting my javascripts to run more smooth.
[22:23] <Zylstra_> Righto
[22:23] <RUNiX> Who is speak russian?
[22:23] <fccf> !ru | RUNiX
[22:23] <thedude42> Zylstra_, a touchpad by chance?
[22:24] <fccf> RUNiX: /join #ubuntu-ru
[22:24] <lolmac> ikonia: i wanted to know what people use to connect to adsl
[22:24] <RUNiX> hello
[22:24] <index3> re
[22:24] <thedude42> kilo, try firefox 3.5, aka Shiretoko, supposedly it does javascript better
[22:24] <lolmac> pppoeconf or the connection that "blocks" the network
[22:24] <RUNiX> ubuntu 9.04?
[22:25] <alchamech> how can i get my pc to recognize my new lcd monitor?
[22:25] <guntbert> ikonia: as to lolmac's problem: wasn't there a setting to prevent network manager from connecting two networks at once?
[22:25] <alchamech> im running 9.40
[22:25] <ikonia> guntbert: depends on how many network cards he has etc etc
[22:26] <kilo> thedude42, I'll give it a try here in a bit... if I can get 3.0 to work, I think I'd prefer that for support purposes
[22:26] <fccf> RUNiX: Да, они говорят на русский #ubuntu-ru
[22:26] <coldpizza721i__> how do i put a boot flag on sdb1
[22:26] <CyberKitsune> Hello
[22:26] <fccf> !hi | cyberkits
[22:27] <foofish> coldpizza721i__: cfdisk will do it. probably gparted too
[22:27] <lolmac> ikonia: but this problem is in one card, this card (ethernet) is used to connect the network, and in the network there is a modem that grants access to the internet, normally the system has a connection to the network, and i create a connection to the internet(adsl) that dials, with username and password
[22:27] <coldpizza721i__> is there like a command to do it in terminal
[22:27] <foofish> coldpizza721i__: cfdisk
[22:27] <CyberKitsune> I'm having a problem booting into Ubuntu after I moved some partitions and removed my Mac OS X partition from my system.
[22:27] <ikonia> lolmac: it's getting a dhcp address from the modem that is not on the same network as the other PC's - it is a fault with your network design
[22:27] <guntbert> ikonia: maybe I misremember too :)
[22:28] <nibbler> lolmac: this is something you should not use the network manager to, i'd say
[22:28] <foofish> coldpizza721i__: i don't know a one-liner off the top of my head, though
[22:28] <CyberKitsune> I think moving the partions broke GRUB or something
[22:28] <ADmiral> Hi, I've just restarted ALSA with this: "sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart" and now "lsmod | grep snd" reports NO sound modules loaded! What do I do (except reboot) ?
[22:28] <soreau> ddo: Compiz is already installed. Enable it by setting sys>prefs>appearance>Visual Effects tab to anything other than None
[22:28] <CyberKitsune> I am currently in the Ubuntu Live/InstallCD, can anyone assist me in fixing GRUB?
[22:29] <RUNiX> ru
[22:29] <fccf> coldpizza721i__: use cfdisk ... it will read your partitions ... select sdb1 and use b to toggle the bootable flag
[22:29] <lolmac> nibbler: but the network manager is the only thing that manages network?
[22:29] <lolmac> because it works perfectly the adsl and the eth0 i don't undertand why they are separated
[22:29] <coldpizza721i__> thanks
[22:29] <fccf> RUNiX: /join #ubuntu-ru
[22:29] <RUNiX> Русские?
[22:29] <nibbler> lolmac: /etc/network/interfaces, /etc/resolv.conf do, too ;-) if you want to setup a router, use these. if you want to connect your computer just to a network, use nm
[22:30] <mostafa_> how not to compare the same files via diff?
[22:30] <foofish> coldpizza721i__: maybe "parted /dev/sdb1 boot on" will work
[22:30] <lolmac> nibbler: i just want to connect to a network
[22:30] <phenom_> How can i see what kind of x.org version ive got?
[22:30] <mnaines> !ru | RUNiX
[22:30] <blizzkid> lo all, can I start a client's notify-send from a server so that it notify-sends on the client and doesn't complain about X11 initialization failing on the server?
[22:30] <ikonia> lolmac: you can't be on the interent and your private network at the same time - they sound like they are on different address ranges
[22:30] <coldpizza721i__> tony$:cfdisk "Fatal error Cannot open disk drive"
[22:30] <CyberKitsune> what command would you use to fix a broken GRUB?
[22:30] <nibbler> lolmac: sorry, misread then. thought you want to connect to two networks, and hook up one network with the other, sorry
[22:30] <ikonia> CyberKitsune: depends how/why it's broken
[22:31] <mostafa_> how not to compare the same files via diff?
[22:31] <lolmac> nibbler: it's not like that
[22:31] <CyberKitsune> ikonia: I removes OSX and resized Ubuntu, and GRUB fails to load now.
[22:31] <CyberKitsune> removed*
[22:31] <nibbler> CyberKitsune: basically boot a rescue system, mount old system, chroot into it, run grub-install <parameters>
[22:31] <nibbler> lolmac: sorry then, misunderstood oyu
[22:31] <CyberKitsune> Ubuntu is still there
[22:31] <ikonia> !grub > CyberKitsune
[22:31] <fax> CyberKitsune is a cool name
[22:32] <coldpizza721i__> fccf....im getting an error
[22:32] <CyberKitsune> thanks ^^
[22:32] <ddo> how can i install compiz for 9.04 ?
[22:32] <fccf> coldpizza721i__: running as sudo?
[22:32] <foofish> coldpizza721i__: reading the documentation i guess it should be "parted /dev/sdb set 1 boot on"
[22:32] <DasEi> !compiz | ddo
[22:32] <fccf> ddo: do you have hardware that supports compiz, something to check before trying
[22:33] <coldpizza721i__> fccf forgot about that
[22:33] <blizzkid> anyone on the notify-send?
[22:33] <ddo> DasEi: compiz effects
[22:33] <DasEi> ddo: you can enable them, it's in your menu
[22:33] <lolmac> nibbler: in another system for an example, i create a connection to the network (a router that is connected to a modem) (the router is set to dchp automatically, it distributes IPs to the computers), than i create a dial up connection adsl to enter the internet, the adsl internet connection can only work if the network connection is activated
[22:34] <coldpizza721i__> fccf....sdb doesnt show up...only my 3 sda partitions
[22:34] <soreau> ddo: Like I said, it's already installed. And I topld you how to enable it
[22:34] <soreau> told*
[22:34] <foofish> coldpizza721i__: you need to run sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[22:34] <coldpizza721i__> k
[22:34] <coldpizza721i__> thanks
[22:35] <ddo> DasEi: i dont see Compiz fusion efect on my prefernces menu or admin... :/
[22:35] <Happehwalrus> http://hkfjbmo2rdjun56b.onion/ <-- what the crap is that?
[22:35] <fccf> coldpizza721i__: sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[22:35] <ikonia> Happehwalrus: 1.) is that anything to do with ubuntu 2.) that's not a valid url
[22:35] <DasEi> ddo: system, preferences, dig some more
[22:36] <seyfarth> how do I see how much disk space ubuntu is using/has free?
[22:36] <DasEi> seyfarth: df -h
[22:36] <soreau> ddo: System>Applications>Appearance>Visual Effects tab
[22:36] <seyfarth> DasEi: Thanks!
[22:36] <lolmac> ikonia: do you know if forum has more complete info on this matter? or is it alike the ubuntu help topics
[22:36] <CyberKitsune> Well, lets
[22:36] <CyberKitsune> whoops
[22:36] <ikonia> lolmac: it's not a problem, it's normal behaviour
[22:36] <CyberKitsune> *Let's see if the fix worked
[22:36] <ddo> soreau: i ll check now
[22:37] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:37] <DasEi> hi sebsebseb
[22:37] <lolmac> ikonia: i know
[22:37] <sebsebseb> DasEi: :)
[22:37] <fccf> sebsebseb: good of you to join us
[22:38] <sebsebseb> fccf: hi
[22:38] <lolmac> ikonia: but do you know how to set an adsl connection?
[22:38] <ikonia> lolmac: you're already doing it as you said you could connect to the network
[22:38] <ddo> soreau: there a 3 radio button none normal extra which one is the compiz?
[22:39] <soreau> ddo: Anything other than None and compiz will be running
[22:39] <coldpizza721i__> uggh i got into cfdisk sdb once but there was no option for the boot flag like there was in sda
[22:39] <coldpizza721i__> but now im getting an error again trying to get into it
[22:39] <fccf> ddo: that is simple-ccsm ... if you want advanced .. there is !ccsm
[22:39] <fccf> !ccsm | ddo
[22:40] <kruk> ;)
[22:40] <ddo> soreau: should i reboot after choohsing?
[22:40] <soreau> ddo: No
[22:40] <soreau> fccf: gnome-appearance-properties != simple-ccsm
[22:40] <coldpizza721i__> bad primary partition 0
[22:40] <kruk> Samochody
[22:40] <ddo> soreau: damn why there isnt :/
[22:40] <kruk> Motocykle
[22:40] <kruk> Części samochodowe
[22:40] <kruk> Części motocyklowe
[22:40] <kruk> Inne pojazdy i łodzie
[22:40] <kruk> Przyczepy, naczepy
[22:40] <soreau> ddo: But when you do log in again, it will still be the selection you chose
[22:40] <FloodBot2> kruk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:41] <fccf> soreau: yes, I know, compizconfig-settings-manager is not simple, in fact advanced
[22:41] <ddo> soreau: i ll relog for try
[22:41] <CyberKitsune> Sadly, the grub-install didn't seem to solve my problem... When I boot up my Mac, It goes into BIOS mode like it should, but states "No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key"
[22:42] <CyberKitsune> Pressing any key doesn't have any effect as well
[22:42] <soreau> fccf: simple-ccsm and gnome-appearance-properties have nothing to do with ccsm. They are three entirely different programs
[22:42] <Guest6198> wow i didnt think that this program was still running
[22:42] <mgv2> why i cant see preview image of flvs?
[22:42] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: What problem are you having?  Sorry for not paying attention, I was busy talking in IM
[22:43] <coldpizza721i__> fccf its not working
[22:43] <fccf> soreau: now I see your point,
[22:43] <fccf> coldpizza721i__: details please
[22:43] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: I removed my Mac OS X Patron and moved my Ubuntu patron to give ubuntu more space, now GRUB fails to start even after manually reinstalling!
[22:44] <fccf> CyberKitsune: I think you need to set the boot flag on the grub drive
[22:44] <CyberKitsune> fccf: ?
[22:44] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Did you set the mount point and boot flag?
[22:44] <coldpizza721i__> sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb -> FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition ends in the final partial cylind
[22:44] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: I don't know
[22:45] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: You should manually specify how the partitions are set up.  Choose a mount point, make the drive bootable, and try again
[22:45] <coldpizza721i__> fccf any ideas
[22:45] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: In gparted in the livecd, right?
[22:45] <blizzkid> lo all, can I start a client's notify-send from a server so that it notify-sends on the client and doesn't complain about X11 initialization failing on the server?
[22:46] <mralexandro> i have a problem. after uninstalling wine by manually deleting .wine folder. i have not been able to install it again. neither trough synaptics or terminal. please help someone
[22:46] <lolmac> ikonia
[22:46] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Yes, you can click on "manually change the partitions" on the install screen
[22:46] <fccf> coldpizza721i__: looks like cfdisk doesn't like your partition, It could be bad or was imaged improperly, that last cylinder being partial, seems like it had trouble completing the write
[22:46] <coldpizza721i__> its fat32 micro sd
[22:46] <lolmac> i was using the normal connection to the network that comes with ubuntu auto eth0, and set the adsl with pppoeconf
[22:46] <fccf> coldpizza721i__: what is on it?
[22:46] <s0|> hi, how do I uninstall patches?
[22:46] <ab2qik> Hi, whats the procedure to get jaunty to access a vista partition. Vista & jaunty dual boot on a laptop. Thanks.
[22:47] <lolmac> it worked fine, untill i rebooted and the auto eth0 stopped working, just the wireless works know
[22:47] <losha> mralexandro: deleting .wine just removes the config portion of wine. The binaries and library are still there. Have you tried apt-get install --reinstall wine ?
[22:47] <lolmac> i will restartt know
[22:47] <coldpizza721i__> some files...im trying to make a bootable ubuntu installer
[22:47] <lolmac> now
[22:47] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Do you have your LiveCD set to save the changes?  That may be your problem.  It is not saving the changes
[22:47] <fccf> !fstab | ab2qik
[22:47] <paipimenta> hello.... I'm trying to update BIOS on my Compaq Presario 6016US... I downloaded the Rompaq .exe and extracted it onto a FAT formatted usb (contains CPQFlash.exe, CPQFlash.txt, and ROM.CAB)   I also burned a FreeDOS LiveCD.... but when I booted from FreeDOS CD, I couldn't read the USB drive... how do I do this? (I'm running linux, so hence the need to do this to update BIOS)
[22:47] <Join-D> mralexandro: sudo apt-get autoremove wine ?t? then install again, correct me if i am wrong
[22:47] <coldpizza721i__> i have to go eat...ill try it later
[22:48] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: It's the Ubuntu 9.04 Install/Live CD, I ran some commands in terminal to reinstall grub, but that didn't seem to work
[22:48] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Maybe it is because you're running the liveCD...LiveCDs have to be manually configured to save the changes.  I am guessing that it is not working because it cannot save the changes
[22:48] <mralexandro> losha, thanks trying this now, Join-D, thanks will try that second if needed
[22:49] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: To do it before, I mounted my ubuntu disk in the liveCD, and wrote the bootloader to disk...
[22:49] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Have you tried going through the Ubuntu installer instead of running live?
[22:50] <ab2qik> fccf, so if vista is on c:\   then what should the fstab entry be.  F.S:  /dev/sda1, Type: NTFS, etc.. Vista is on 1st partition.
[22:50] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: It's the installer CD. But, no, I have not yet.
[22:50] <ddo> damn no compiz :/
[22:50] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Try that first
[22:50] <CyberKitsune> I already had Ubuntu installed and working
[22:50] <CyberKitsune> But Modified the disk's parts to give ubuntu more space
[22:50] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Try reinstalling Ubuntu and see if it works that way
[22:51] <s0|> seriously has anyone had problems with the latest networking related patches?
[22:51] <s0|> this is ********* junk
[22:51] <mralexandro> as usual on this irc loving channel. SOLVED! :D
[22:51] <mralexandro> losha, SOLVED!:D
[22:51] <fccf> ab2qik: er,um yes, no ... in fstab partitions are identifyd by UUID ... please read further ... and remember you will still need a place to mount it like /media/vista
[22:51] <soreau> ddo: How do you know compiz isn't running?
[22:51] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: I can't really reinstall it, I have data on that disk that I need to kepp
[22:51] <CyberKitsune> keep*
[22:51] <CyberKitsune> The data is still there
[22:51] <mralexandro> losha, why did it not work to reinstall using synaptics package manager?
[22:51] <CyberKitsune> I can mount the disk and everything is there
[22:52] <CyberKitsune> but the bootloader won't work at all
[22:52] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Well, until you try reinstalling, I do not think you will be able to get it to work
[22:52] <ddo> anyone knows how can i see compiz fusion manager?
[22:53] <soreau> ! ccsm | ddo
[22:53] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: There should be an option on the installation menu to repair the current installation
[22:53] <soreau> ubottu isn't here
[22:53] <losha> mralexandro: Dunno, I don't use synaptics much. I assume there's a way to reinstall things in synaptic?
[22:53] <soreau> ddo: If you come to #compiz I will help you get it all workinf
[22:53] <soreau> working*
[22:53] <ab2qik> fccf, if an incorrect FSTAB entry goes in, can it stop jaunty from booting up?
[22:54] <fccf> soreau: I beleive ubottu is being updated, and is running miserably slow
[22:54] <soreau> fccf: It's not even in this channel
[22:55] <fccf> soreau: not even connected to the network at the moment
[22:55] <mnaines> soreau: Ubottu has been taken offline for routine maintenance
[22:55] <losha> ab2qik: usually an incorrect fstab entry will be ignored, but if it prevents something crucial from mounting, then it could prevent a successful bootup. If you're not sure about it, comment it out for booting...
[22:55] <mralexandro> losha, it is! but it did not work to reinstall using synaptics yesterday, and it did not work using terminal commando i found in the install cs4 in wine guide, and nothing worked. maybe the fact taht i uninstalled before i restarded computer and then installed it. was par of the solutions, cause i had only reinstalled it before now. but now i uninstalled yesterday and then excecuted your command.
[22:55] <ddo> soreau:ok
[22:55] <CyberKitsune> Oh
[22:55] <CyberKitsune> There are no flags set on the drive
[22:55] <rayve> Hello all, just a quick question - I'm trying to get IRC to work via Pidgin, but I can't choose it as an option when I try to "join chat" - if there is a better room for this, please let me know :)
[22:56] <mnaines> rayve: Did you enable IRC in the pidgin account menu?
[22:56] <soreau> fccf: Right. and it can't be slow if it isn't even here ;)
[22:56] <losha> mralexandro: well, if you didn't use install --reinstall, then I think apt-get will just ignore it...
[22:56] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: It seems that the problem is that there are no flags set on the drive... but which one do I set? bios_grub or boot?
[22:56] <rayve> yep I did, mnaines
[22:56] <rayve> I used irc.freenode.net
[22:57] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: The answer is obvious.  If you want to boot from the drive, set the flag for Boot
[22:57] <fccf> soreau: hey even I have to go down for routine maintinance, i.e. sleep
[22:58] <mnaines> rayve: Does it show the option of choosing between Yahoo and IRC in the chat room list?
[22:58] <gemini> torrent server help
[22:58] <CyberKitsune> I'm still getting the no bootable devices error >.<
[22:58] <rayve> oops may have figured it out - I switched from Invisible to Available and now it shows up. can't be invisible in IRC, eh?
[22:58] <benste> Hi does so know whether seahorse and evolution will work together for PGP validating, and signing ?
[22:58] <CyberKitsune> Maybe it's because Macs work differently
[22:59] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: Could be, or it could be your Live setup is not saving it
[22:59] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: Let me reboot, and see if it saved
[22:59] <mralexandro> has anyone here had the chance to install cs4 in wine? i have heard it is possible so..
[22:59] <CyberKitsune> maybe I need to set the bios_grub flag too
[23:00] <fccf> mralexandro: I have heard of people having success .. perhaps ask in #winehq
[23:00] <Bof> What is acpi?
[23:00] <mnaines> mralexandro: It is possible, but there is no guarantee it will work properly.  You need to go to Wine's website and search the database of games to see which ones will work in wine
[23:00] <mralexandro> fccf, thanks mnaines, thanks
[23:01] <fccf> Bof: Advanced Configuration and Power Interface ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acpi
[23:01] <Lake_> when I list partitions with fdisk -l I seem to miss one SATA HDD I recently put in the machine.. I assume I can't see it because the motherboard doesn't see it ?
[23:01] <iskin> What is better for to use for game emulation, Cedega or Codeweavers Games?
[23:01] <Bof> Thanks, fccf !!
[23:01] <losha> mralexandro: Seems very version dependent: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14514
[23:01] <foofish> Lake_: you have to tell fdisk which device to look at
[23:01] <gemini> torrent server help
[23:01] <foofish> Lake_: e.g. fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[23:02] <fccf> !details | gemini
[23:02] <losha> Lake_: that would be my guess. Did that particular disk get probed during boot? (type dmesg and look for it in the output?)
[23:02] <mnaines> fccf, you forgot Ubottu is offline
[23:02] <Lake_> foofish: well by fdisk -l he listed what seems to be all that he can, he listed /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb2 etc
[23:02] <gemini> torrentflux alternatives | console only
[23:02] <foofish> Lake_: ok
[23:02] <Lake_> foofish: so I see no reason for it to miss a whole disk unless it doesn't see it
[23:03] <foofish> Lake_: oops, i was looking at the manpage for the bsd fdisk
[23:03] <fccf> mnaines: yeah, I guess I did? gemini: our bot isn't working, uh you probably want rtorrent
[23:03] <CyberKitsune> mnaines: The boot flag is still there, should I try the bios_grub flag?
[23:03] <Lake_> losha: I don't know if that is still in dmesg .. I'll take a look, is there any way to ask for a reprobing of hdds?
[23:03] <gemini> cool
[23:03] <xkennhoobb-it> hello
[23:03] <mnaines> CyberKitsune: All I can tell you is to try reinstalling Ubuntu manually
[23:03]  * one2abuse is back.
[23:04] <foofish> Lake_: if it's not in the dmesg output, it'll probably be in the bootup messages in the syslog
[23:04]  * mnaines usually keeps a spare hard drive lying around to back up important data on a regular basis
[23:04] <losha> Lake_: no, there's no way to reprobe a device that isn't hot-pluggable. Any disk that doesn't probe at boot time is considered seriously faulty...
[23:04] <Lake_> losha: well I just got it from Seagate, so I'm assuming it's alive
[23:04] <Bof> Does installing acpi should help to keep my cpu from being high when idle?
[23:04] <nibbler> Lake_: you can reprobe scsi devices afaik, rescan-scsi.sh or smth.
[23:04] <mnaines> Lake_: Is the drive recognised in the BIOS?
[23:05] <Lake_> foofish: I'll have to google that, it's probably somewhere in /var/log I'd guess
[23:05] <Lake_> nibbler: hum ok Ill man that
[23:05] <foofish> Lake_: yes, /var/log/syslog iirc
[23:05] <fccf> Bof: no, cpufreq does that .. acpi is automatic, if it works, it won't cause problems
[23:05] <teknozwizard> .....the joys of waiting for updates to download and install....(sighs)
[23:06] <Bof> It says acpi not installed.... should I install it?  I'm not sure if I understand well
[23:06] <fccf> teknozwizard: the joy of having a fast internet connection, no waiting
[23:07] <ab2qik> losha, If the fstab entry is commented out, how can it be tested to see if it works in the first place?
[23:07] <fccf> Bof: there is a good chance if it wasn't installed it is something you don't need... perhaps we can get you going in the right direction
[23:07] <losha> Lake_: it may just as easily be DOA. Check cabling & power. Can you feel it vibrating i.e. is it even spinning when the power goes on?
[23:07] <teknozwizard> fccf: heh, yeah. I know. Still being brand new and finally having an Ubuntu that'll use my wireless card to connect to the internet is exhilirating and I don't want to have to wait another ..... 14 minutes for the downloads to install ^_^
[23:07] <GyrosGeier> hi
[23:08] <teknozwizard> fccf: though, I'm worried how JJ will handle my WPA2 encryption once I get home....
[23:08] <GyrosGeier> I'm editing a page in the Ubuntu wiki, and need to insert a reference to a package. Is there a macro for that?
[23:08] <losha> ab2qik: comment it out while booting, then uncomment it and type 'sudo mount -a' after everything is booted. If the entry is good, the disk will mount...
[23:08] <Bof> Ok... I'm searching cause my cpu is a bit to high on my toshiba U300... though it could be that?
[23:09] <fccf> GyrosGeier: a matter of inserting a link [[link|packagename]]
[23:09] <mnaines> teknozwizard: I use WPA2 on Ubuntu Jaunty with no problems
[23:09] <ab2qik> losha, Thanks.
[23:09] <malv0> are there still performance issues with the intel driver in karmic?
[23:09] <teknozwizard> Yeah?
[23:09] <malv0> neverball seems kinda choppy
[23:09] <teknozwizard> I'd read somewhere that JJ had some issues with WPA2.
[23:10] <teknozwizard> fccf: another question I have for you. I've got a WD SES 320gb external that I use as a backup drive.
[23:10] <mnaines> teknozwizard: I haven't had any issues with WPA2
[23:10] <pippin418> i have a sed command question
[23:10] <fccf> teknozwizard: that is usually hardware dependant, some work better than others
[23:10] <losha> pippin418: ask...
[23:10] <teknozwizard> fccf: Question - Why can't I mount it?
[23:11] <pippin418> Iosha: well I need to remove everything in between '<' and '>', it's an XML file that i'm extracting data out of
[23:11] <fccf> !fstab | teknozwizard - read these how-to's
[23:11] <teknozwizard> fccf/mnaines: After dumping HH, and installing JJ, JJ picked up my wireless card perfectly. Didn't have to modify anything, it just started working. So, hopefully it won't have any problems once I get it home.
[23:11] <fccf> did it again
[23:11] <mnaines> teknozwizard: Check the permissions.  I have that problem.  If I set up through gparted, it won't let me mount, but if I set up through fdisk, it works just fine
[23:12] <teknozwizard> mnaines: Fun part is I've no idea about either of those ^_^
[23:12] <pippin418> Iosha: currently I have: grep  $tag xml.xml | sed 's/^<.*>\([^<].*\)<.*>$/\1/' | tr -d '\t'
[23:12] <fccf> Ubottucopy: teknozwizard: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[23:12] <Lake_> losha: so yes, it's spinning
[23:12] <teknozwizard> mnaines: I can see the external in my "Places" but when I go to mount it, it won't actually open the folder to view the files. I suppose I can only assume that it's mounted, but I can't get it to go into the actual drive.
[23:12] <Lake_> but no the BIOS does not see it
[23:13] <losha> pippin418: that's quite a hieroglyphic. Does it work?
[23:13] <fccf> teknozwizard: have you tried accessing it as root ... gksudo nautilus
[23:13] <Lake_> you'd think it would be the other 3 PATA drives that would screw things up but no, it's this one SATA instead
[23:13] <fccf> teknozwizard: then /media/whateveritismountedas
[23:13] <pippin418> Iosha: it displays the tag and it's contents. i only want the contents. i'm trying to rid the file of the tags
[23:13] <losha> Lake_: so what does 'dmesg | egrep sd' say?
[23:13] <nibbler> pippin418: use some xml parser for that!!
[23:14] <mnaines> teknozwizard: Its the permissions...You need to change it to your username and user group
[23:14] <Bof> My cpu running too much on my toshiba U300...any idea?
[23:14] <coldpizza721i__> hmm.. can i install ubuntu remotely
[23:14] <Lake_> losha: I don't think it's going to say anything since the BIOS doesn't list the SATA drive but who knows... maybe the bios doesn't list sata
[23:14] <nibbler> bof: use top to find out which process is using it up
[23:14] <mnaines> teknozwizard: in a terminal, type in sudo chown username:group /media/diskname
[23:14] <Lake_> losha:  i.e. I'm booting
[23:14] <pippin418> nibble: tried that. none are available for mac (what i'm using, sed is a bash command so figured i could get helped here)
[23:14] <nibbler> coldpizza721i__: yes you can
[23:14] <fccf> Bof: or system>administrator>system moniter to see processes
[23:15] <coldpizza721i__> how so....what should i look into
[23:15] <Bof> Well I did... but it doesn't match the system monitor or neither the sum of the processes usage
[23:15] <pippin418> nibbler: tried that. none are available for mac (what i'm using, sed is a bash command so figured i could get helped here)
[23:15] <Aranel> How can I install Ubuntu from command line? I cant use graphic or safe graphic mode.
[23:15] <losha> Lake_: that's a bad sign. Are you saying the mobo has sata ports but doesn't admit the disk exists from the bios?
[23:15] <Flannel> Aranel: You'll want to get the Alternate CD
[23:15] <Bof> And my battery doesn't last...
[23:15] <teknozwizard> mnaines: invalid group
[23:16] <fccf> pippin418: sed has an unofficial channel ##sed .. you might get some help there
[23:16] <nibbler> pippin418: there is for sure some perl module etc
[23:16] <Aranel> Flannel: Isnt it possible to do any other way? Downloading something else is not cool with 1Mbit DL =)
[23:16] <sebsebseb> Aranel: Are you  sure that's a good CD, did you md5sum?  Also how much RAM do you have?   Since for example on 128MB RAM, the later desktop CD's probably won't boot up properly
[23:16] <Bof> In fact, Xorg seems to use a lot of cpu
[23:16] <mnaines> Technoviking: Use your username as the group
[23:16] <Lake_> losha: I'm saying that the mobo has SATA ports but the 'list disks' only has space for 4 hdds a.k.a. the pata controllers & 2 disks per controller
[23:16] <pippin418> nibbler: they all failed to work or compile
[23:16] <pippin418> fccf: i'll try that
[23:16] <teknozwizard> fccf: gksudo returns - "Unable to add monitor: Operation not supported."
[23:16] <Aranel> sebsebseb: Im sure its more than 128mb, its a brand new notebook, but i dont know exactly what he use, its my friends.
[23:16] <Flannel> Aranel: The Desktop CD unfortunately can't.  Well, I guess you could try the "Install only" option, which just starts ubiquity in a spartan GUI environment.  Depending on what the problem is, you could try that.
[23:17] <fccf> teknozwizard: still works
[23:17] <losha> Lake_: poke around the bios a bit more. Some of them require you to explicitly enable sata before it will work...
[23:17] <Flannel> Aranel: but no, the desktop CD isn't very flexible when it comes to installation methods
[23:17] <Lake_> losha: good point
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Aranel: Burnt CD or official?
[23:17] <teknozwizard> fccf: what still works friend?
[23:17] <coldpizza721i__> nibbler how?
[23:17] <Aranel> sebsebseb: Burnt, 7.04, but I used it more than 5~ times, no problem.
[23:17] <sebsebseb> Aranel: oh 7.04 is no longer supported even
[23:18] <Aranel> sebsebseb: I know. I dont want do DL something for my friends pc =)
[23:18] <Aranel> sebsebseb: he can update it after install.
[23:18] <fccf> teknozwizard: gksudo nautilus   .... will open a password window, then after you enter the sudo password you will see nautilus (file manager) and can access the drive in /media
[23:18] <nibbler> coldpizza721i__: that completely depends on your enviroment.  you have a system running and want to change it to ubuntu?
[23:18] <mnaines> Aranel: Would you be interested in running a Live setup on his computer?
[23:18] <sebsebseb> Aranel: I think people get issues now trying to update from  releases that are no longer supported
[23:19] <Bof> The processes in system monitor don't match total usage of cpu s?
[23:19] <coldpizza721i__> nibbler windows on my other machine and yea want to change it
[23:19] <Aranel> mnaines: Live setup?
[23:19] <teknozwizard> hrm.
[23:19] <teknozwizard> Oh, so I should've been looking at the other window.
[23:19] <Aranel> sebsebseb: If it works, its perfect anyway.
[23:20] <teknozwizard> fccf: I'll try again. I closed the pop up window without thinking. One moment.
[23:20] <fccf> teknozwizard: yeah, the one that says root on the right hand side
[23:20] <guja> anyone knows how is this site made? http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/ ? is that drupal or what? thanks.
[23:20] <fccf> left hand side*
[23:20] <nibbler> coldpizza721i__: well, im sure there is ways to even do it with windows.... but i dont have ideas there.....
[23:20] <sebsebseb> Aranel: I think he might mean from a USB
[23:20] <cody__> I am using Ubuntu with the KDE Desktop. Whenever i play a song in amarok, it will not locate the lyrics. What is wrong?
[23:20] <guja> anyone knows how is this page made? http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/ ? is that drupal or what? thanks.
[23:20] <Aranel> sebsebseb: yes, if its possible, without downloading anything.
[23:21] <sebsebseb> !usb |  Aranel
[23:21] <sebsebseb> hmm where's the bot
[23:21] <Bof> System monitor gives ~25% cpu usage, but it doesn't match with what I see in the process!!
[23:21] <guja> !bot | sebsebseb
[23:21] <Lake_> losha: dmesg | egrep sd spews : http://pastebin.com/m7b5757a
[23:22] <fccf> guja: the bot is down for maintinance
[23:22] <cody__> I am using Ubuntu with the KDE Desktop. Whenever i play a song in amarok, it will not locate the lyrics. What is wrong?
[23:22] <sebsebseb> cody__: I suggest trying the #kubuntu channel  since that's for Ubuntu with KDE
[23:23] <cody__> sebsebseb: Thank you, i will move there now
[23:23] <Lake_> losha: sda sdb and sdc are the pata drives
[23:23] <sebsebseb> cody__: np
[23:23] <Aranel> sebsebseb: (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes.
[23:23] <Aranel> sebsebseb: thats the error about why it doesnt start Xorg
[23:23] <Lake_> no losha..
[23:24] <Bof> Try to find why my cpu run to fast but I see nothing significant in system monitor
[23:24] <bobo123> how to logout from rlogin using the escape character?
[23:24] <ikonia> 13:36 < mnaines> ikonia: I want secure authentication and I want the connection itself to be secure (paranoia-based security, I know, but that's just the way I am)
[23:25] <ikonia> oops
[23:25] <trism> bobo123: according to the man page, the escape character followed by a dot should close the connection
[23:26] <bobo123> trism: obviosly doesn't close
[23:26] <teknozwizard> fccf: ok, I did it again, but - unfortunately - still the same problem. It loads up into the autorun feature and doesn't actually go to the actual drive.
[23:26] <Lake_> foofish: syslog doesn't even mention the 4th sata hdd, I'm guessing it's a BIOS thing and it's not in dmesg either
[23:26] <bobo123> trism: it's ok, i had to wait a little bit longer to see the output
[23:27] <dwarder> when installing minimal server installation in vmware, tasksel ask if i want to install "virtual machine host", am i need this?
[23:27] <ikonia> no no no
[23:27] <ikonia> dwarder: you can't be a virtual machine host while on a virtual machine gues
[23:27] <ikonia> guest
[23:27] <foofish> Lake_: ok. presumably you have had it recognised by some other operating system
[23:27] <Bof> I try to find why my cpu run to fast but I see nothing significant in system monitor...any idea?
[23:27] <foofish> Lake_: and it's not a loose power cable or something
[23:27] <Lake_> foofish: no actually not really
[23:27] <teknozwizard> fccf: Ok, I think I know why.
[23:27] <dwarder> ikonia: ahh i see, thanks my box is guest
[23:28] <pentarex> hey guys can someone tell me how to make my microphone in acer d150 on Ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 to work ?
[23:28] <ubuntu_TX7> hello everyone
[23:28] <teknozwizard> fccf: It says - "Unable to mount cdrom0" and then "mount: no medium found on /dev/sr0"
[23:28] <Lake_> foofish: it's spinning but BIOS doesn't see it so either mobo problem or doa hdd
[23:28] <ikonia> pentarex: 9.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[23:28] <foofish> Lake_: well check the data cable, both ends
[23:28] <pentarex> ikonia, 10nx
[23:28] <Lake_> foofish: will do (and maybe mobo has some SATA optino I need to enable, like losha said)
[23:29] <teknozwizard> fccf: It's not finding the media for it. I'm gonna check out the WD site and see if there's any linux distro drivers for it.
[23:29] <teknozwizard> brb.
[23:29] <fccf> teknozwizard: we arn't trying to mount your cdrom ... it will be labeled /media/disk? something
[23:30] <Bof> I try to find why my cpu run to fast but I see nothing significant in system monitor...any idea?
[23:30] <ikonia> Bof: maybe you don't have speed step/throttling working
[23:31] <Bof> Thks Ikonia... but what is it?
[23:31] <nibbler> bof: so where do you see it running?
[23:32] <Bof> I see it in system monitor...but I can't find a process in particular that eats cpu a lot
[23:32] <s0|> anyone complaining about a massive slow down in system performance since the latest patches have been put out? this is BS vmware server is now hosed thanks to those patches and the system runs about 20% slower than it did before.
[23:33] <dwarder> footprint of ubuntu server 8.10 minimal virtual is 440mb, why do they say that it must be 380 here http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/jeos
[23:33]  * one2abuse is away: Gone away for now
[23:33] <dwarder> i wonder what could i have done wrong
[23:33] <pentarex> ikonia, nobody can help me man... nobody is responding about hey guys can someone tell me how to make my microphone in acer d150 on Ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 to work ?
[23:33] <dwarder> pentarex: alsamixer check?
[23:33] <Bof> System monitor gives ~25% cpu usage ... but the sum of process doesn't match!!!
[23:33] <dwarder> or something
[23:34] <ubuntu_TX7> is there a reason why ubuntu would be resizing a 200gb partitition for more then 1 hour ?
[23:34] <pentarex> dwarder, i am new in linux i install alsamixer
[23:34] <ikonia> pentarex: 9.10 is the correct channel
[23:35] <ikonia> pentarex: #ubuntu+1 for 9.10 please
[23:35] <fccf> pentarex: If you are a new user you really shouldn't be using a beta release to begin with
[23:36] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[23:36] <ubuntu_TX7> can i install ubuntu on a fat32 partitition ?
[23:36] <ikonia> ubuntu_TX7: not really
[23:36] <Flannel> ubuntu_TX7: not really, no.
[23:36] <nibbler> ubuntu_TX7: no, dont think so
[23:37] <s0|> fucccckkking awsome
[23:37] <ubuntu_TX7> then what kind of partitition do i need to install it on ?
[23:37] <dwarder> why i don't have do-release-upgrade?
[23:37] <dwarder> how can i install it?
[23:37] <Flannel> dwarder: What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[23:37] <fccf> A netsplit is when 2 or more IRC servers split from eachother ... in this case orwell.freenode.net just disconnected from irc.freenode.net , please be patient why the network resets itself
[23:37] <dwarder> Flannel: 8.10 server minimal
[23:37] <dwarder> virtual
[23:38] <nibbler> ubuntu_TX7: ext3,4 or reiserfs.... i'd recommend
[23:38] <Flannel> dwarder: install update-manager-core
[23:38] <Flannel> dwarder: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20(Recommended)
[23:39] <ubuntu_TX7> ok but ubuntu would resize my hard drive forever :( its been doing it for more then one hour
[23:39] <Lake_> foofish: well sadly, BIOS option sata is enabled and I data cable is all right so this means try another data cable .. and if that doesn't work, try the hdd in another machine ?
[23:39] <Bof> How can I check if speed step/throttling works?
[23:39] <fccf> ubuntu_TX7: how big is the drive?
[23:39] <dwarder> Flannel: thank you
[23:39] <ubuntu_TX7> around 200 GB
[23:40] <fccf> ubuntu_TX7: I'd wait for it to finish, it takes along time to resize a drive
[23:41]  * one2abuse is back.
[23:41] <ubuntu_TX7> it just says applying pending operations in the partitition wizard and its been like that for more then an hour.
[23:41] <MenZa> one2abuse: Remove that script, now.
[23:41] <ikonia> one2abuse: please disable that script
[23:41] <MenZa> !away > one2abuse
[23:42] <fccf> MenZa: ubottu is undergoing maintinence right now, !triggers won't work ... we have to be the the bots
[23:42] <foofish> Lake_: guess so
[23:42] <roby_> ciao
[23:43] <Fox3211> When trying to create an ext3 on my hard drive using gparted live cd i get the error "Could not stat /dev/sda1 -- No such file or directory. The device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?". what does this mean and how do I get it to work?
[23:43] <fccf> roby_: Hello, Italian?
[23:43] <nibbler> ubuntu_TX7: if you resize your partitions, a lot of data has to be moved. this can tage AGES.... but only way to not lose data....
[23:43] <Lake_> foofish: ...actually do something, you say.... my worse fears realized... thx for your help
[23:43] <plitter> is there any way to leave a message for a guy here?
[23:43] <foofish> Lake_: np
[23:43] <paul_s> i was told vbox was better than vmware, i am NOT seeing it, i got no usb , no optical drives, god knows what else aint working, and i been tryin for 7 hours, perhaps it don't like ubuntu 9.04
[23:43] <nibbler> Fox3211: try /dev/sda
[23:44] <Bof> How can I check if speed step/throttling works?
[23:44] <MenZa> paul_s: No USB support in the open source version. Try the proprietary version from virtualbox.org.
[23:44] <DeathFox> how good is gimp compared to like photoshop
[23:44] <teknozwizard> <--- screams because it still didn't work!!!!!
[23:44] <cody__> How do i add a resource to my sources.list file? I dont want to use gksudo and sources does not show in the menu. What is the terminal command?
[23:44] <Fox3211> nibbler: where is the option to change that?
[23:44] <shadowimmage> can someone help me with an Eclipse IDE installation? I wanted to replace the one that comes from the ubuntu repo to the latest that I just downloaded from the elcipse.org site...
[23:44] <MenZa> DeathFox: Just as good, but it has a very different workflow.
[23:44] <ikonia> paul_s: what's best is subjective to one mans view, I personally rate kvm over both of them, but my requirements may differ from someone who appreciates say vmware
[23:44] <thedude42> paul_s, what virtualbox are you using?  the free version does not have the same features as the sun non-free
[23:44] <paul_s> MenZa got right version, http://pastebin.com/d2de70cdc
[23:44] <nibbler> Fox3211: no idea, thought you used some command ;-) try sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[23:44] <teknozwizard> DeathFox: As an almost certified PhotoShop specialist, I can say this. Gimp = Easy to start with, but not very flexible as far as what can be done. Photoshop = hard to start with, but incredibly flexible as to what can be created.
[23:45] <DeathFox> k
[23:45]  * iruan is away: Be back later!
[23:45] <paul_s> says its there but not? :)
[23:45] <teknozwizard> DeathFox: It's actually a matter of choice. My uncles got his BA in Graphic Design and he refuses to use PhotoShop, and outside of some of the new 3d stuff, he can match pic for pic using Gimp against anyone who uses PhotoShop.
[23:45] <dwarder> teknozwizard: do you use photoshop with ubuntu?
[23:45] <paul_s> jaunty non free
[23:45] <Fox3211> nibbler: I don't see a way to get a terminal on the gparted live cd :(
[23:45] <ikonia> paul_s: jaunty is free
[23:45] <paul_s> jaunty and vbox non free
[23:46] <teknozwizard> dwarder: No, I just got JJ installed today. However, the Photoshop interface never changes from OS to OS, the only thing that changes is the ks for each OS.
[23:46] <nibbler> Fox3211: i dont know gparted live cd, and this is #ubuntu..... try ctrl-alt-f1
[23:46] <paul_s> vbox version is jaunty non free
[23:46] <ikonia> paul_s: no - it's free
[23:46] <ikonia> !info vbox
[23:46] <thedude42> free as in freedome, not beer
[23:46] <dwarder> teknozwizard: what is JJ and ks?
[23:46] <thedude42> s/freedome/freedom/
[23:46] <paul_s> got right version, CHECK http://pastebin.com/d2de70cdc
[23:46] <teknozwizard> dwarder: I'm sorry, I call Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) JJ because I'm lazy.
[23:47] <dwarder> teknozwizard: and ks for photoshop cs? :)
[23:47] <Bof> How can I check if speed step/throttling cor my cpu works?
[23:47] <Pici> !info virtualbox-ose
[23:47] <teknozwizard> dwarder: And I say "ks" instead of "keystroke shortcuts"
[23:47] <cody__> How do i add a respitory through the terminal
[23:47] <teknozwizard> dwarder: a ks is like - as I'm sure you know ctrl+a. I'm just lazy sometimes.
[23:47] <unop> cody__,   echo "deb http://example.com/ release section" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:47] <paul_s> my usb is there and unavailable
[23:48] <cody__> unop: Thank you
[23:48] <mo0nykit> Bof: you mean CPU frequency scaling?
[23:48] <paul_s> whatever  that menas
[23:48] <unop> cody__, make sure you have the repository down right.
[23:48] <paul_s> whatever  that means
[23:48] <dwarder> teknozwizard: i see :)
[23:48] <Bof> mo0...Exactly
[23:48] <Fretegi_1> hi guys
[23:48] <ikonia> !give ikonia a test
[23:48] <Bof> Cause my cpu goes to fast!!
[23:48] <Fretegi_1> so, anyone know how to rip dvd's for bu purposes in ubuntu?
[23:48] <teknozwizard> fccf: I'm looking at the Ubuntu forums, several people seemed to have had my issue with my external, but they say they can still mount and access the drive. Do you think that because it boots as a CD first that that's what could be the problem?
[23:49] <MenZa> Fretegi_1: bu purposes?
[23:49] <ikonia> Fretegi_1: search for dvdrip in the repos
[23:49] <ikonia> MenZa: backup
[23:49] <MenZa> ikonia: ah. Yes, Fretegi_1 - have a quick search in the repositories [ apt-cache search dvdrip ] - k9copy I know is one program that'll do it.
[23:49] <Bof> mo0nykit: I try to find why my cpu goes to fast....system monitor doen't help?
[23:50] <bartek> Hi. Sound from flash died about 2 weeks ago (just getting it today). Videos work, but the sound is gone entirely. Anyone have any tips as to where I can start looking? Sound doesn't work in any of my browsers (Chromium, Firefox, Epiphany..)
[23:50] <Fretegi_1> i installed that, however i get a error "default data base directory data not found"
[23:50] <fccf> teknozwizard: in gksudo nautilus .. you should be able to see /media ... in it should be something called a disk ... or disk-1 or whatever ... it should be there if it is mounted
[23:50] <KyleK__> when is 9.10 coming out?
[23:50] <ikonia> Bof: 1.) does your cpu support speed step 2.) is it enabled in the bios 3.) is speed step working
[23:50] <fccf> !karmic | KyleK__
[23:50] <ikonia> KyleK__: ubuntu.com is your friend
[23:50] <Smattacus> What chat client are you guys using for irc, anyways?
[23:51] <teknozwizard> fccf: and if it's not, then I need to mount it, which would be why I can't see it.....man...see, being new to JJ can be a killer when you know certain things but dont think of them because you stress that it's a much worse problem than it really is. Let me try that.
[23:51] <Bof> ikonia... It's a bit to technical for me.... I would need more details.. sorry
[23:51] <sebsebseb> Smattacus: Konversation in Gnome :)
[23:51] <ikonia> Smattacus: there are many options, give some a try see what you like
[23:51] <thiebaude> xchat
[23:51] <KyleK__> wow, this is the furthest away a release has been when i'm wanting to install ubuntu
[23:51] <Smattacus> yeah I'm gonna try some shiz
[23:51] <ikonia> Bof: 1.) does your cpu support speed stepping (throttling) 2.) do you have the option enabled in the bios 3.) what makes you think your cpu is running fast
[23:51] <mo0nykit> Bof: "too fast", like it's having a high load most of the time?
[23:51] <dios_mio> what files are the screen resolutions stored in?
[23:51] <Smattacus> and see what I like, thanks dudes
[23:52] <sebsebseb> !irc > Smattacus
[23:52] <ikonia> dios_mio: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:52] <Bof> ikonia :System monitor gives both cpu ~30% when nothing running
[23:52] <dios_mio> ikonia and where else?
[23:52] <Bof> I mean cpu usage
[23:52] <ikonia> dios_mio: no-where
[23:52] <ikonia> Bof: what cpu (make/model) is it
[23:53] <thedude42> k62 :p
[23:53] <Bof> Intel 1.66Ghz
[23:53] <ikonia> Bof: intel what ?
[23:53] <mo0nykit> Bof: Core2Duo ?
[23:53] <Bof> Intel core duo
[23:53] <Bof> yes
[23:54] <ikonia> Bof: check your cpu in the tool called "top"
[23:54] <mo0nykit> Bof: I'm afraid I won't be able to help any further.. Sorry...
[23:54] <Bof> Core 2 duo T5450
[23:54] <mnaines> Bof: I have a 1.86GHz Core2Duo in my laptop, and it supports both thermal and voltage throttling in BIOS and speed stepping in the OS
[23:54] <Bof> thks anyway <mo0nykit>
[23:54] <dwarder> !version
[23:55] <Bof> Ikonia ok....I check
[23:55] <Bof> ikonia... It's much lower ~8%
[23:56] <ikonia> Bof: ok, so it's probably because gnome system monitor isn't dealing with multiple cores well, so it's giving a false reading
[23:56] <mnaines> Bof: Most newer processors support at least thermal throttling, but that feature has to be enabled in the BIOS
[23:56] <m0r0n> Does anyone play Tremlous
[23:56] <mnaines> ikonia: I am not having any problems with gnome system monitor dealing with multiple cores
[23:56] <Bof> Ok....But is there a chance I break something in changin that in the bios ?
[23:56] <thiebaude> ikonia, mine is ok too
[23:57] <mnaines> m0r0n: Google TremFusion for a better multiplayer experience
[23:57] <plitter> !help
[23:57] <m0r0n> mnaines: Is it advised to use terminal to install games?
[23:57] <plitter> \help
[23:57] <Bof> But my battery running down much faster than with windows even with kpowersave....
[23:57] <ikonia> mnaines: do you have the same make/model cpu and motherboard as him ?
[23:57] <mnaines> ikonia: I have an Intel 945 chipset
[23:57] <ikonia> Bof: probably because it's not throttling
[23:57] <m0r0n> mnaines: I tried it with Tremlous and it didn't work quite well, it gave me an old version and it's useless
[23:57] <ikonia> mnaines: is that the same cpu/motherboard combination as him ?
[23:57] <mnaines> ikonia: I do not know.
[23:58] <ikonia> mnaines: there we go
[23:58] <thedude42> Bof, because the windows drivers probably have special knowledge about power savings on your laptop
[23:58] <Bof> Chipset is Intel GM965/960...or something
[23:58] <mnaines> ikonia: Mine is the GM945
[23:58] <ikonia> mnaines: not asking what yours is, just if it was the same so had any relevance to the comment
[23:59] <mnaines> ikonia: His is newer than mine apparently
[23:59] <mnaines> ikonia: So if mine has certain features, his should as well
[23:59] <Bof> I guess there nothing to do for the battery but I'll check for throtteling
[23:59] <plitter> clear