[05:24] <iMaddHatter> Hey,just installing Xubuntu again on my old Dell,I have some questions since I'm kinda new to xubuntu.
[05:28] <iMaddHatter> Ok,well first question,I would want to know if I could update my Intel chipset within xubuntu. I believe after clearing my computer using DBAN to get rid of windows,I lost the update data for the chipset. Could this be true?
[05:30] <iMaddHatter> Btw,My processor is the Celeron 1.7 GHz
[05:31] <iMaddHatter> Dell Dimension 2350 using 512MB ram and the Intel i8245E/G/PE/Ge chipset
[05:46] <iMaddHatter> I believe no one even reply or even talk in this channel?
[05:46] <Balsaq> were here
[05:48] <iMaddHatter> We're here*
[05:49] <iMaddHatter> I had a question before,but no one replied.
[05:49] <Balsaq> if someones ask a techinical question involving xubuntu and we know the answer...we respond
[05:49] <iMaddHatter> Ok,well I'll repost my question
[05:49] <iMaddHatter> Ok,well first question,I would want to know if I could update my Intel chipset within xubuntu. I believe after clearing my computer using DBAN to get rid of windows,I lost the update data for the chipset. Could this be true?
[05:50] <iMaddHatter> Btw,My processor is the Celeron 1.7 GHz
[05:50] <iMaddHatter> Dell Dimension 2350 using 512MB ram and the Intel i8245E/G/PE/Ge chipset
[05:50] <Balsaq> awesome, sounds like me?
[05:51] <Balsaq> answer is ...yes
[05:52] <Balsaq> just toss ubuntu in yur cd player and away we go
[05:53] <iMaddHatter> o.o;;
[05:53] <Balsaq> yeah i lost my update data on my chipset too...my intel 440bx never felt sooo good since i lost windows...AHHHH
[05:55] <iMaddHatter> Well,I wanted to know if I am able to update the chipset through xubuntu? Would that increase performance?
[05:57] <Balsaq> well being a certified non-tech i am pleased to tell you that upgrading with xubuntu is sort of like updating yur whole dadgum computer, made mine real fast , faster than it was new, but honestly i never heard of the updating the chipseet thing
[05:58] <iMaddHatter> Hm,well I have been using Ubuntu on this machine before,but I thought the profomance in it was slugish so I'm downgrading to Xubuntu 9.04
[05:59] <Balsaq> i threw ubuntu in my ancient dell cause i heard it worked a lil better for non techs...now i have the xubuntu disc and am waiting until a grow a set...before i do the destop enema the and try xubuntu
[05:59] <Balsaq> i need the xubuntu also my dell is from 1998
[06:00] <iMaddHatter> This is dell was made in 2001
[06:00] <iMaddHatter> lol
[06:00] <Balsaq> is your machine runnung on sdram or rdram
[06:00] <iMaddHatter> just reseted the BIOs and notice it was set for 1/1/2001
[06:00] <iMaddHatter> sdram I believe
[06:01] <Balsaq> yur lucky then if toss some more ram inher you might be surprised and sdram is cheap
[06:01] <Balsaq> thats how i got old bessie runnung good on bloated ubuntu
[06:01] <iMaddHatter> Hm,well this machine can only go up to 1Gb
[06:02] <Balsaq> well i have 400mgz and 768sdram and she can multitaks several websites at once
[06:02] <iMaddHatter> Xubuntu is very good. I would send you a copy in the mail if you need one made.
[06:03] <iMaddHatter> 400Mhz you mean,right?
[06:03] <Balsaq> well like i sadi i have it now...right in my hand but as a non tech i must 1st grow a set of gnads before messing with my perfect ubuntu install
[06:03] <Balsaq> yep 400mgz read and weep
[06:03] <iMaddHatter> Ooww..
[06:03] <Balsaq> yeah huh...the ram took over though
[06:04] <Balsaq> but i have the xubuntu disc now just learning a lil before i screw with the ubuntu that is running so well
[06:04] <iMaddHatter> Well that is good,but Xubuntu is very nice for older computers and I'm just so blown away by it
[06:04] <Balsaq> i gonna do the xubuntu also as i learn more
[06:04] <iMaddHatter> Well,you could back up your files into and everything
[06:05] <Balsaq> we can just switch by using termianal real fast i guess
[06:05] <iMaddHatter> I think you could dual boot the two
[06:05] <Balsaq> i think i wrote in down somewhere, you just go to terminal and it switches ubuntu to xubuntu ... i think
[06:06] <iMaddHatter> I believe,you should check the support site on Ubuntu.org I think..
[06:07] <Balsaq> sounds pretty simple but i saw people in here going nuts cause they lost their sound and stuff
[06:09] <Balsaq> well it ios funny but i happen to have 3 used dell dimansion 8250's coming in aboout a week that i am going to learn with, 1- for xubuntu, 1 for puppylinux, and one for win xp pro sp3
[06:09] <Balsaq> want to become an OS install pro...1st
[06:10] <Balsaq> old business computers from around 2002 or so...
[06:10] <Balsaq> prolly 2.4's with 512 ram or so
[06:10] <Balsaq> they give em away when they get old at work
[06:11] <Balsaq> but everything work on this crazy ole buntu puter so i dont want to mess with it
[06:13] <iMaddHatter> I know what you mean,I hate when businesses and even schools throw away perfect computers in the dump
[06:14] <iMaddHatter> I was looking at puppylinux before but never touched it
[06:14] <iMaddHatter> I looked at it since it was just a odd name for a linux OS and also a dog lover so I thought about it.
[06:14] <iMaddHatter> xD
[06:14] <Balsaq> well these wise guys have noticed i am new...so they are stickin me with the ones that came with that dalgarned rdram (rambus) i mentioned earlier...it tough to but that stuff cheap
[06:15] <Balsaq> yeah puupy looks really cool..they say its fast
[06:16] <Balsaq> and on a 2.4 with a gig a ram should really move
[06:17] <iMaddHatter> Well in general,aren't all linux based OS are usually fast?
[06:17] <iMaddHatter> well of course
[06:18] <Balsaq> how many ram slots do you have
[06:19] <Sysi> everything's about where you compare
[06:19] <Balsaq> see dell had a way of keepin  stuff from their customers so you'll but another computer...they didnt want to tell me my old boat anchor can hold twice the ram they say
[06:19] <Balsaq> yours may be the same
[06:20] <iMaddHatter> I have two ram slots
[06:20] <Balsaq> ill bet ubuntu will realize 2 gig of sdram in yur puter
[06:20] <iMaddHatter> I was told by Dell that I could only use two 512MB of ram on this motherboard
[06:20] <Balsaq> so you but dont listen too me
[06:21] <iMaddHatter> you really think Dell lied to me?
[06:21] <Balsaq> yeah they told me those stories too
[06:21] <iMaddHatter> Damn,well I would like to know who much I could hold on this system than
[06:21] <Balsaq> well they want you to think yur puter is a gonner...truth is its not a lie...they say we didnt test it that high to make it a non lie
[06:21] <iMaddHatter> I believe it could be more than just an old machine
[06:22] <Balsaq> they told me never exceed 128 per slot and i have 3 slots, i did 256 per slot for 3 slots
[06:22] <iMaddHatter> wow
[06:22] <Balsaq> yeah huh
[06:23] <iMaddHatter> Well I have two 265 in two slots
[06:23] <Balsaq> but you see  it made w98 a lil unstable though fatser but would hang too, ubuntu never hangs with the extra ram in mine
[06:24] <Balsaq> so i killed w98
[06:24] <Balsaq> the techs on here said i better stop at double the book specs
[06:26] <Balsaq> i also contacted crucial memory and they have recorded many sales with happy customers with dells like mine that doubled the ram...so you can qsk them 1st and they will look it up by their previuos orders, but i had to tell them too do it
[06:27] <Balsaq> at 1st they tried to get me to stay with in the dell book...only after iasked them to push it did they dig into their records and sure enough tons of dell people did it successfully
[06:29] <iMaddHatter> Hm...
[06:29] <Balsaq> i can talk here, do ebay , and run terminal line commands at the same time
[06:29] <iMaddHatter> very interesting
[06:29] <Balsaq> yeah huh
[06:29] <iMaddHatter> Hm,well I would need to find out how far my RAM can go on this system
[06:30] <Balsaq> too nbad i didnt have a bigger processor like yours
[06:30] <_Pete_> iMaddHatter: what exact model?
[06:30] <iMaddHatter> Dell Dimension 2350
[06:30] <iMaddHatter> I have the service code if you want to see more specs
[06:31] <_Pete_> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/specs.htm
[06:31] <iMaddHatter> 8jkcf21
[06:32]  * _Pete_ wishes to upgrade computer too
[06:32] <_Pete_> i7 (or two) would be nice
[06:32] <iMaddHatter> lol
[06:33] <iMaddHatter> me too
[06:33] <_Pete_> currently have Q6600/8G ram
[06:33] <Balsaq> id be happy with an old e5200
[06:33] <iMaddHatter> Wow!
[06:33] <Balsaq> thats a rocket not a freakin puter
[06:34] <Balsaq> hallaluhiua
[06:34] <_Pete_> 2 years old :)
[06:34] <_Pete_> so must upgrade!
[06:34] <Balsaq> ill take the old one Pete
[06:34] <Balsaq> i can 15 years out of it
[06:34] <_Pete_> and I take the cash from that :)
[06:34] <Balsaq> whaddya do sell em on ebay
[06:35] <Balsaq> see all i use old bessie for is the netso all the new stiuff i dont need
[06:35] <iMaddHatter> I could sell my computer but,I don't think I would get much from it anyways
[06:36] <_Pete_> its like this http://quadcore.homeunix.net/phpsysinfo/index.php?disp=dynamic
[06:36] <Balsaq> Pete do actually use all those cores?
[06:37] <_Pete_> yeah
[06:37] <_Pete_> when compiling things
[06:37] <Balsaq> what OS so you have
[06:37] <_Pete_> xubuntu
[06:37] <iMaddHatter> If you re using anything linux or debain based,you don't need all that
[06:37] <iMaddHatter> Its alot of money wasted to be honest
[06:38] <_Pete_> need what?
[06:38] <iMaddHatter> You are running Xubuntu on a beast of a systems
[06:38] <iMaddHatter> the cores
[06:38] <iMaddHatter> system*
[06:38] <_Pete_> I dont like new kde or gnome
[06:38] <_Pete_> that's why
[06:39] <Balsaq> you dualing Pete
[06:39] <_Pete_> no
[06:39] <Balsaq> what did you do with vista?
[06:39] <_Pete_> this machine has never have windows
[06:39] <Balsaq> oh you built it
[06:40] <_Pete_> ordered without OS
[06:40] <Balsaq> cool
[06:40] <Balsaq> nice clean rocket
[06:40] <iMaddHatter> Ah,well of course,the OS is one of the most $$$ spent for making a new system
[06:40] <iMaddHatter> lol
[06:41] <iMaddHatter> So Xubuntu is the best choose. I like the Xfrce
[06:41] <Balsaq> i want to built a mini rocket on a $67.00 intel e5200
[06:41] <_Pete_> It really doesnt matter
[06:41] <iMaddHatter> I had ubuntu on this computer before
[06:41] <iMaddHatter> downgrade/upgraded it
[06:41] <_Pete_> since I usually use only konsole & firefox
[06:41] <iMaddHatter> I wish they come out with Chrome for Linux soon,I love that better than firefox
[06:42] <Balsaq> i see that seamonkey in my synaptic package manager, has antone tried it?
[06:42] <iMaddHatter> I have tried it out on windows
[06:42] <iMaddHatter> but,never played with it much
[06:42] <iMaddHatter> so I deleted it
[06:42] <Balsaq> how is it
[06:42] <iMaddHatter> I should check itout
[06:42] <Balsaq> is it faster than FF
[06:42] <iMaddHatter> its just like firefox but i think faster
[06:43] <_Pete_> opera has always been fastest
[06:43] <_Pete_> dont know against chrome
[06:43] <iMaddHatter> Firefox is filled with so many security,its hard to do alot
[06:43] <Balsaq> i have heard that
[06:43] <iMaddHatter> Chrome is awesome!
[06:43] <iMaddHatter> Its 100% open source
[06:43] <Balsaq> i wonder how much space opera takes...i have 5.5 gigs left on my HD
[06:44] <Balsaq> chrome wont go in my old boat anchor though
[06:44] <Balsaq> i am limited
[06:44] <_Pete_> Balsaq: opera doest take much
[06:44] <Balsaq> will it let and old sytem have it
[06:44] <_Pete_> sure
[06:44] <_Pete_> why not?
[06:45] <Balsaq> well some have requirements
[06:45] <iMaddHatter> I'll check it
[06:45] <Balsaq> i think chronke chromeliterally spotted my system and said NO
[06:45] <Balsaq> chrome i mean
[06:46] <iMaddHatter> you would need 128mb ram
[06:47] <Balsaq> 768 here
[06:47] <Balsaq> i think it was my processor that kills me
[06:47] <Balsaq> 400mgz
[06:47] <Lappy> How do I run a .bin file in Xubuntu. I tried Wine but it won't run at all...
[06:48] <_Pete_> used to run linux with amiga, it had 40Mhz cpu :)
[06:48] <Balsaq> see i never saw a puter like that
[06:48] <Balsaq> when i got in the were 133mgz
[06:49] <Balsaq> and up
[06:49] <Balsaq> mine came with 64ram
[06:49] <iMaddHatter> I would love to help ya out Lappy,but I don't know how
[06:49] <Balsaq> nor do i
[06:50] <Lappy> Okay. I haven't a clue. I pick open with and choose wine(the blue diamond one, the exe) but it still won't boot
[06:50] <Balsaq> see techie knows all that stuff, but hasnt arrived yet
[06:50] <Balsaq> usually
[06:50] <iMaddHatter> http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=95411
[06:51] <iMaddHatter> that is for you,Balsaq
[06:51] <Balsaq> looking
[06:51] <Lappy> Will techie be on soon?
[06:53] <Balsaq_> see it said need P$...i have a P2
[06:53] <Balsaq_> p4 i meant
[06:53] <Balsaq_> thats why i cant have it
[06:54] <Balsaq_> i tried to get one day for about a half hour..would act like it was going in....but at the ens...no
[06:54] <Balsaq_> whats that thing that says i di a ping?
[07:06] <iMaddHatter> ugghh g2g for now guys. I'll be back once my system is done installing Xubuntu
[07:06] <iMaddHatter> I'm running off the live CD now
[07:06] <iMaddHatter> Woot for Xubuntu 9.04 and for the upcoming 9.10
[07:09] <Balsaq> later mad
[07:10] <iMaddHatter> Bye!
[08:18] <homebrewcider> hey there, every now and again, don't know why, I lose my desktop settings (customised taskbar, thunar settings and the like) Is there a config file somewhere I can backup somewhere please?
[09:24] <Balsaq> _Techie_ those computeres i am getting have that rambus in them?
[09:24] <Balsaq> ypu ever mess with that stuff?
[09:59] <MoonTiger> is anybody here?
[10:31] <bili> im using xubuntu 9.04, my wireless network was working fine with network manager applet until last nite, it was working then it stopped
[10:32] <bili> and now my wireless network name grey out
[10:32] <bili> any pointers?
[12:37] <denmark> helllllllllllooooooooooo
[12:41] <denmark> :))
[12:41] <denmark> y0
[12:41] <denmark> po
[12:41] <denmark> lo
[12:41] <denmark> to
[12:41] <denmark> pipipe
[12:41] <denmark> gooke
[12:41] <denmark> lu lu lu
[12:42] <denmark> chika chika chika
[14:14] <jarnos> There used to be a way to disable suspend and hibernate in xfce logout dialog in some version of Xubuntu. Is it still there? Where is it exactly?
[15:46] <imaddhatter> Hey everyone
[15:47] <Edo> hello?
[15:49] <Edo> nobody huh?
[15:52] <imaddhatter> hm?
[15:53] <SiDi> It's funny
[15:53] <SiDi> all the people who joined today said hi and disconnected
[15:57] <imaddhatter> I'm still here
[15:57] <imaddhatter> just downloading the updates for Xubuntu
[16:02] <imaddhatter> g2g gotta restart
[16:43] <livid> hello, I cant add more workspaces on my workspace switcher
[16:44] <livid> annyone can help please?
[16:44] <SiDi> livid, hi
[16:44] <SiDi> using compiz?
[16:45] <livid> SiDi, hello, I think not
[16:45] <SiDi> Try Alt+Insert and Alt+Del please
[16:45] <livid> SiDi, Cool :)
[16:46] <livid> that works
[16:46] <SiDi> I assume this means it works for you :)
[16:46] <livid> yes, thank you very much
[16:46] <TheSheep> you can also go to settings->workspaces
[16:47] <livid> oh, that also works :)
[16:47] <livid> I justtried to risght-click + properties and try to increase the number
[16:47] <SiDi> oh i see
[16:48] <SiDi> thats for the number of columns on which to display workspaces
[16:48] <SiDi> It's useful when you have _very wide_ screens
[16:48] <livid> I should start to read what is written there... sorry aboutthat
[16:49] <SiDi> no problem livid
[17:20] <dennis00> Hi, can I run the opensuse layout on xUbuntu?
[17:21] <Sysi> what do you mean by "opensuse layout"?
[17:23] <dennis00> a great cannonical gnome or kde layout
[17:23] <dennis00> opensuse looks nice, and we use it at the University.
[17:23] <dennis00> I would like to use that gnome template on Xubuntu.
[17:23] <dennis00> KDE template*
[17:23] <dennis00> or maybe XFCE template*
[17:24] <Sysi> theme?
[17:24] <Sysi> gtk themes are universal
[17:24] <dennis00> I want this task bar: http://gi812.net/media/images/openSUSE_10.3_install_34.gif
[17:24] <Sysi> my english skills aren't that great
[17:25] <dennis00> no problem, my Finish isn't great.
[17:26] <Sysi> *finnish :P
[17:28] <dennis00> you see how bad it is ^^
[17:29] <Sysi> there are instruction for older ubuntus
[17:29] <Sysi> http://angelicpenguins.blogspot.com/2006/07/sled-menu-for-ubuntu-uslab-now-in-repo_14.html
[17:29] <Sysi> http://www.justuber.com/blog/2007/03/11/suse-style-gnome-menu-on-ubuntu-edgy/
[17:30] <Sysi> hmm, i there are gnome-main-menu in repositories
[17:40] <MoonTiger> hi :)
[17:41] <MoonTiger> is this the right place to ask about xubuntu karmic beta?
[17:57] <SiDi> MoonTiger, yes
[17:58] <MoonTiger> ah thank you ... may i ask a question? :)
[17:58] <MoonTiger> well 2 actually
[17:58] <MoonTiger> when i finish lagging to hell and back that is
[17:59] <SiDi> MoonTiger, you surely can ask questions, MoonTiger ;)
[17:59] <SiDi> I may even answer them, if I know the answer. (Well, I will also answer if I don't, but the answer won't be very helpful then)
[17:59] <MoonTiger> 2 things are bothering me (apart from the few beta crashes that are to be expected)
[17:59] <MoonTiger> 1 is the login screen
[18:00] <SiDi> oh? SURPRISING </sarcasm>
[18:00] <MoonTiger> i normally change mine to be a simple username / password challenge dialog box instead of the big spashy thing they have
[18:00] <SiDi> You can't change Gdm 2.28
[18:00] <MoonTiger> now it appears i cannot change this
[18:00] <MoonTiger> *sigh* so i get a dumb list of users like some windows clone??
[18:00] <SiDi> it's so cool, so fast, so well integrated into the desktop that it's absolutely unbelievable anyone would want to change it. </sarcasm²>
[18:01] <MoonTiger> ok well then i guess its back to plain debian and plain xfce fore me
[18:01] <SiDi> If you really can't bear it, you can replace it with gdm-2.20
[18:01] <MoonTiger> i left windows / osx because i got tired of being told what i would prefer
[18:01] <SiDi> I'd just like to point out that the Xubuntu devs are nonely responsible for this disaster. it's an ubuntu thing
[18:02] <MoonTiger> *sigh*
[18:02] <SiDi> the package gdm-2.20 contains the old gdm
[18:02] <MoonTiger> and the "suspend" and "hibernate" buttons on the logout dialog... can i get rid of them?
[18:02] <SiDi> cody-somerville uploaded it, so for karmic you can use that :)
[18:03] <MoonTiger> ahhh is that in the repos?
[18:03] <SiDi> hm, i think its not possible anymore with xfce 4.6.1 but you might wanna ask in #xfce as i may just not have found where it was moved to in the GUI
[18:03] <SiDi> yes it is
[18:03] <MoonTiger> ok wow that rocks
[18:03] <MoonTiger> thank you
[18:03] <MoonTiger> i was not looking forward to installing from clean debian
[18:04] <SiDi> hehe, debian+xfce's default desktop is so friendly ^_^
[18:04] <MoonTiger> but if xubuntu gos much further down this road i will leave it
[18:04] <MoonTiger> yah i know
[18:04] <MoonTiger> but it can be made ok with much tweaking
[18:40] <chris_debian> Hi, guys.  I've got upgrade to Karmic probs, can anyone help?  I did a successful update-manager -d upgrade, but when I did the ext3 > 4 conversion as per the Ubuntu wiki, my new boot is not happy.  Most times when I boot, I get the mouse splashscreen, then it seems to hang.  On one boot I got the log-on screen, but then I got lots of colours and it froze. I tried CTRL+ALT_ Backspace, but nothing happened.  In Recove
[18:40] <chris_debian> ry mode I get this message: "cannot stat /tmp/.X11-unix (no such file or director), aborting".  Anyone got any ideas?  Failing this, I'll have to do a proper install.
[18:45] <SiDi> chris_debian, i think you can reinstall :/
[18:45] <SiDi> The ext3 to ext4 upgrade didnt go well apparently
[18:46] <SiDi> Ideally, you should try to install 9.04 in ext4, and upgrade to 9.10 to see if it does it again
[18:47] <chris_debian> SiDi, Great! What a bummer! I though all the ext4 problems were ironed out.
[18:49] <chris_debian> Guys, could I use System Rescue CD to rescue my partitions? Should I just go for a new install?
[19:02] <chris_debian> Anyone know whether ext4 has special tools to check it, or can I use e2fsck to try to rescue a partition?
[19:14]  * SiDi doesnt
[19:59] <imaddhatter> I think I have a stupid question,so I don't know if I want to ask it. >.>
[19:59] <imaddhatter> But...its about the Intel chipset
[20:01] <SiDi> imaddhatter, i ask more stupid questions in a day than you would in a month, so don't worry and go ahead!
[20:02] <imaddhatter> xD
[20:03] <imaddhatter> Ok,well I want to know if I could be able to update my intel chipset. I went to the intel site and looked for drivers,than I was sent here http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=757&DwnldID=13815&lang=eng
[20:03] <TheSheep> making it longer will only make the pain worse
[20:03] <TheSheep> imaddhatter: ubuntu has those drivers included
[20:04] <imaddhatter> Told me to go to http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org and check for downloads,but I'm kinda scared to do any damage to my machine
[20:04] <SiDi> ok, so, you have an intel integrated chipset, and you have performance problems?
[20:04] <imaddhatter> Yes,I can't really run just a simple SNES emulator without lagging abit
[20:04] <imaddhatter> I'll get my specs for my system
[20:04] <SiDi> imaddhatter, what you could do first is test the Xubuntu 9.10 LiveCD and see how the drivers work for your chipset
[20:05] <imaddhatter> Its Celeron
[20:05] <SiDi> some old chipsets still have trouble with the latest Intel drivers (but it may be fixed in the next version)
[20:05] <SiDi> That's your processor, imo, imaddhatter
[20:05] <imaddhatter> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/specs.htm#1106961http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/specs.htm#1106961http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/specs.htm#1106961
[20:05] <imaddhatter> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2350/specs.htm#1106961
[20:05] <imaddhatter> opps
[20:05] <SiDi> it should be Intel GMAxxx or X3100 or X4500 or Intel 808xx
[20:05] <imaddhatter> Intel i845E
[20:06] <imaddhatter> for the 845 family
[20:06] <imaddhatter> or*
[20:06] <imaddhatter> nvm,found the name for it
[20:06] <imaddhatter> Intel 845GL
[20:06] <SiDi> Great
[20:06] <SiDi> that's definately an old computer, right?
[20:06] <imaddhatter> 2001,so yeah xD
[20:07] <SiDi> Okey, before you break your system, try the Xubuntu 9.10 LiveCD :)
[20:07] <SiDi> if the newer drivers work better you should be able to notice it from there
[20:07] <SiDi> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily/current/ this one actually
[20:07] <SiDi> more recent drivers
[20:08] <imaddhatter> uugghh I have to download the 9.10 beta?! Dx
[20:09] <SiDi> It would be a safer way than just trying a Xorg update and ending up with a shell prompt :)
[20:10] <imaddhatter> it took me about 5 hours to DBAN my system and install Xubuntu 9.04 all together
[20:10] <imaddhatter> that is true,SiDi
[20:11] <SiDi> oh
[20:12] <imaddhatter> Do you recommend using DBAN for erasing a HDD
[20:12] <SiDi> If you have a slow internet then it may not be the best solution :P
[20:12] <imaddhatter> ?
[20:12] <SiDi> I don't know what DBAN is
[20:12] <imaddhatter> No,it wouldn't. xD But I would be able to download it...just takes forever
[20:12] <imaddhatter> Darik's Boot and Nuke
[20:13] <imaddhatter> for this system,I'm using a wireless adapter
[20:14] <imaddhatter> I think it would be best to download using a direct LAN connection..
[20:16] <imaddhatter> I updated my Xubuntu 9.04 just today...178 updates :o
[20:18] <imaddhatter> I'm using 512MB of ram..
[20:19] <imaddhatter> and I know Xubuntu needs at least 192MB of RAM
[20:21] <_Pete_> on my xubuntu currently: Kernel + applications	
[20:21] <_Pete_>  
[20:21] <_Pete_>   43%
[20:21] <_Pete_> oopps
[20:21] <_Pete_> Kernel + applications - 3.30 GB
[20:21] <imaddhatter> ....?