[16:38] if plasma-desktop doesn't start automatically after uninstalling kubuntu-netbook should I file a bug against kdebase-workspace-bin or plasma-netbook? === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [18:00] hi, just a short question. In Jaunty we have both kde4libs and kdelibs. [18:01] why is it so? are they both used? [18:01] I'm investigating their translations [18:01] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/kde4libs [18:01] https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/kde4libs [18:01] most precisly, desktop_kdelibs is available in both [18:04] Bug 444635 [18:04] Launchpad bug 444635 in ubuntu-translations "Duplicate template names in Ubuntu Launchpad Translations" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/444635 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:39] adiroiban: kdelibs is KDE3, kde4libs is KDE4 [19:42] and we also have kdebase-runtime [19:43] From the translation point of view kcmshell , is included in both kdebase-runtime and kdelilbs [19:44] I assumed it was moved from one package to another [19:44] but I don't know the direction [19:45] kcmshell in kdelibs is the kcmshell from KDE3 [19:49] so in Karmic, we have 2 versions of kcmshell ? [19:50] the problem is that they use the same translation domain [19:50] and this is a conflict [19:50] in the case the translations are not identical [19:50] yes, two versions of kcmshell [19:54] ok. thanks. [19:55] in this case we have the same problem with libkscreensaver [19:55] as we have one version in kdebase-workspace and another one in kdelibs [19:55] is this right? [19:57] yeah, it moved to kdebase-workspace in KDE4 [20:13] ok. for now I will disable the translations from kdelibs and report a bug [20:13] is this ok ? [20:14] but before this I will send an email on kubuntu-devel