[16:33] <BluesKaj> areay0, install fglrxgears
[16:34] <areay0> BluesKaj, there's no package by that name
[16:36] <areay0> BluesKaj, google doesn't know how to install it either
[16:39] <BluesKaj> areay0, forgotten the exact name of the app
[16:39] <BluesKaj> mesa-utils
[16:40] <BluesKaj> depends on your ati driver
[16:40] <areay0> mesa utils is already installed.
[16:40] <BluesKaj> I used to use ati , but I've switched to nvidia and things have changed somewhat i guess
[16:41] <areay0> i tried running fgl_glxgears, and it told me to install xorg-driver-fglrx (which is what messed things up before)
[16:41] <areay0> (i think)
[16:42] <BluesKaj> no , the xorg-driver-fglrx is like a plugin, but let me look around
[16:43] <areay0> kk#
[16:44] <BluesKaj> ok, the xorg-driver-fglrx is a complete driver from what i can tell
[16:44] <BluesKaj> so we need to avoid that
[16:45] <areay> ok
[16:45] <BluesKaj> areay,  dunno if there's a work around or not , more research is needed
[16:45] <areay> BluesKaj, can i pm you my glxinfo output
[16:45] <BluesKaj> yeah
[16:48] <linuxguy> hi has anyone tried using the flrx drivers with 9.04?
[17:00] <BluesKaj> linuxguy, depends on your ati card
[17:01] <BluesKaj> anyway, I'm going for my daily walk ...bb in an hr or so
[17:01] <linuxguy> BluesKaj: I am using an ati 9500 card, ive been reading up and its not promising
[17:01] <BluesKaj> pci?
[17:02] <linuxguy> BluesKaj: no its an agp one :(#
[17:03] <BluesKaj> ok , but it's a stand alone
[17:06] <BluesKaj> ok gone for sure now...BBL
[17:09] <areay> i just installed fglrx for my ati card... after logging into kdm, i get nothing but a black screen, a cursor, and a login sound...
[17:10] <areay> why is it taking hours to complete a simple configuration
[17:10] <areay> has nobody thought about what it might be like for the end-user to install something like this?
[17:12] <lolsauc3> this is lolb0t on my other comp
[17:12] <areay> wtf is going on in here
[17:13] <areay> everyone has questions, but nobody has answers
[17:13] <areay> this sucks
[17:13] <areay> hard
[17:13] <FloodBotK1> areay: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:13] <areay> fuck off flood bot
[17:14] <areay> actually don't.. come back... you're the only one i'm getting any sense out of
[17:14] <lolsauc3> okay, BluesKaj, I'm going to try and boot my other comp into kubuntu. (this is lolb0t) and I'll type the results here.
[17:15] <areay> lolsauc3, unfortunately BlueKaj has gone... and now we're down to 0 people who know what they're doing
[17:15] <areay> out of 284
[17:15] <lolsauc3> oy :<
[17:15] <areay> lol
[17:15] <lolsauc3> damn
[17:16] <lolsauc3> I really want to get this crap working :P
[17:16] <areay> me too lol
[17:16] <areay> i would ask in #ubuntu but you can't get an answer there for the opposite reason
[17:17] <areay> within 30 seconds of you typing something, it's lost in a sea of other people's questions
[17:17] <areay> here it just sits there and nobody says anything
[17:17] <areay> my question: what's the point?
[17:18] <lolsauc3> lol, I dont know
[17:18] <lolsauc3> generally linux is pretty user friendly, especially ubuntu, but you always have a lemon and cant find your drivers ANYWHERE. especially with newer computers
[17:19] <lolsauc3> I on the other hand, am having problems booting
[17:20] <areay> imho: linux is as far from user-friendly as you can get (get a mac if that's what you want), ubuntu is the exception (in some situations)... the reason ubuntu is user-friendly is because it comes with everything a STANDARD user needs to work with... as soon as you want to do anything different you spend hours on borums and irc channels not getting the answers you need
[17:22] <CyberKitsune> Hello?
[17:23] <areay> CyberKitsune, can you hear the echoes?
[17:23] <CyberKitsune> I was using Kubuntu, but I want to switch to Ubuntu, so I installed ubuntu-desktop, and GDM is default, but, Kubuntu is still there.
[17:24] <areay> CyberKitsune, you need to remove kubuntu-desktop
[17:24] <CyberKitsune> I did that as well
[17:24] <CyberKitsune> It didn't uninstall any other packages, just kubuntu-desktop
[17:24] <areay> so it's firing up GDM, but going into kde when you login?
[17:25] <CyberKitsune> No
[17:25] <CyberKitsune> I go into GNOME
[17:25] <CyberKitsune> But KDE is still there
[17:25] <CyberKitsune> as well as all of the KDE apps
[17:25] <areay> yeah that can be annoying
[17:26] <CyberKitsune> Do I have to manually uninstall all of the kde stuff?
[17:26] <areay> CyberKitsune, i think you do, but someone's already written all the commands
[17:26] <areay> i found it on google the other day
[17:26] <areay> hold up
[17:27] <CyberKitsune> k
[17:28] <areay> CyberKitsune, are you using 9.04?
[17:29] <CyberKitsune> 9.10 Alpha9... but should be the same packages as 9.04
[17:29] <CyberKitsune> er
[17:29] <CyberKitsune> Whatever Alpha they are at
[17:29] <areay> lol
[17:29] <areay> try this:
[17:30] <areay> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[17:32] <areay> CyberKitsune, let me know if it works for you#
[17:32] <CyberKitsune> It works, BUT, you need to remove the package "dontzap" from the list, as 9.10 doesn't have that
[17:33] <CyberKitsune> after that, it works perfectly
[17:33] <areay> sweet
[17:38] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[17:47] <BluesKaj> areay, what fglrx did you install ?
[18:08] <lolsauc3> BluesKaj, I'll try to boot my comp into kubuntu and tell you the results
[18:08] <haythem> Hi all
[18:11] <lolsauc3> I got a few filed cpufrequency changes
[18:11] <lolsauc3> failed*
[18:11] <lolsauc3> I always get that for some reason
[18:11] <lolsauc3> should I get the 64 bit version instead?
[18:13] <BluesKaj> if you have 64 bit kubuntu installed , you could try , lolsauc3
[18:13] <lolsauc3> I'll have to go put it on a live disc
[18:13] <lolsauc3> would it work better for a p3 800mhz?
[18:14] <BluesKaj> lolsauc3, only if you have a 64 bit cpu
[18:14] <lolsauc3> I'll have to find out about that one
[18:14] <lolsauc3> idk if it's 64 bit
[18:14] <lolsauc3> hangon
[18:15] <BluesKaj> 800mhz is quite old , it's prolly just x86
[18:15] <BluesKaj> x86=32bit
[18:15] <lolsauc3> okay
[18:16] <lolsauc3> yeah, it's old, but I got it for practically free
[18:16] <BluesKaj> ok, what are you trying now , lolsauc3 ?
[18:17] <lolsauc3> I"m going to keep rebooting until I find the errors again, I've had one successful boot out of 2 so far
[18:17] <BluesKaj> !xfce
[18:17] <lolsauc3> let me try again
[18:17] <lolsauc3> I'm using kubuntu right now
[18:17] <BluesKaj> live cd or install ?
[18:17] <lolsauc3> live cd
[18:18] <BluesKaj> you might try XFCE desktop, it's lighter on the RAM but very useful
[18:18] <BluesKaj> !xubuntu
[18:19] <lolsauc3> I used xubuntu before this, I got the same problems, idk if it's because of my ram, because windows and linux only recognize 320 of the 512 (or something around there)
[18:20] <BluesKaj> Ram is cheap , it's worth upgrading to 1Gig if possible
[18:21] <lolsauc3> that's the thing, it says that the computer is only capable of using 192 mb (128 + the embedded 64mb) and that could be part of it, as there is a 512 stick in there
[18:22] <lolsauc3> I mean, it boots and memtest is cool with recognizing 320 of it
[18:22] <lolsauc3> I'll have to run memtest again
[18:23] <lolsauc3> I just love kde4 though
[18:23] <lolsauc3> it's gorgeous lol
[18:23] <lolsauc3> prettier than vista if you ask me
[18:23] <lolsauc3> and less ram consumption by far
[18:24] <kiiru> hey guys
[18:25] <kiiru> i seem to be having a problem getting my usb mouse to work with kubuntu as far as i know it's in kubuntu 9.04 with kde4 any ideas?
[18:26] <lolsauc3> kiiru, did the mouse come with a driver disc for windows?
[18:26] <lolsauc3> or was it just plug and play?
[18:26] <kiiru> no it's plug and play
[18:26] <lolsauc3> are you on a laptop or desktop?
[18:26] <kiiru> desktop
[18:27] <kiiru> well currently on a laptop but i'm refering to the desktop
[18:27] <lolsauc3> okay
[18:27] <BluesKaj> lolsauc3, maybe a bios upgrade flash is in order for the motherboard , 800 mhz pc usually can handle up 512 if not more . The RAM installed isn't working right or is the wrong type , some pcs don't like unbalanced RAM values in the memory slots . 128 and 256 for example ...better to have just one 256 or 512 , or 2  256s
[18:28] <lolsauc3> is the usb port you're referring to a part of the motherboard, or is it a pci card?
[18:28] <kiiru> i know it works with ps2 mice, but i don't have one on hand anymore
[18:28] <kiiru> i've tried it on the motherboard usb slots and the pci ones
[18:28] <lolsauc3> and BluesKaj, where would I find a bios upgrade? I havent seen one on hp's site
[18:29] <lolsauc3> okay, does kubuntu recognize that it's plugged in or does it disregard it? and does the laser come on?
[18:29] <BluesKaj> lolsauc3, find out what motherboard is installed on your pc on the HP site with a mosel number search
[18:29] <BluesKaj> model
[18:29] <kiiru> i'm not sure, as far as i can see it disregards it, but the laser never comes on it's not designed to
[18:30] <lolsauc3> it's a laptop, the model is compaq presario 18XL580
[18:30] <lolsauc3> BluesKaj, ^
[18:30] <lolsauc3> so it's a ball mouse kiiru ?
[18:30] <BluesKaj> lolsauc3, then look for the motherboard make and model
[18:30] <lolsauc3> okay
[18:31] <kiiru> no it's a lazer mouse that doen't have a visable light led,
[18:31] <kiiru> i assume it's infra red, not i've no way os testing it
[18:33] <kiiru> ok i opened it up and there's an led on the c.board it turns on so there is power going to the device
[18:34] <lolsauc3> okay
[18:34] <lolsauc3> so does that led light up when it's plugged in?
[18:35] <kiiru> yes
[18:35] <lolsauc3> BluesKaj, I found a new bios
[18:35] <lolsauc3> I'll flash that on
[18:36] <lolsauc3> and kiiru, I'm not sure why it wouldnt work. does the device work on windows pcs?
[18:36] <kiiru> yer it works fine with my laptop (vista)
[18:36] <kiiru> the computer it self may be too old or something
[18:36] <BluesKaj> lolsauc3, now follow the instructions for flashging your bios very carefully
[18:36] <lolsauc3> yeah, if you do it wrong the pc is screwed right?
[18:36] <lolsauc3> :P
[18:37] <BluesKaj> lolsauc3, yup
[18:37] <lolsauc3> it's all in a windows executable
[18:38] <BluesKaj> lolsauc3, do you have windows partition ?
[18:38] <lolsauc3> yes, right now the pc is all running on windows
[18:38] <lolsauc3> I was going to repartition it and put kubuntu on the other partition
[18:40] <BluesKaj> lolsauc3, ok run the bios flash as per instructions on windows then , partition your drive and then install kubuntu , you can checl with the kubuntu live cd if the bios flash helped
[18:40] <lolsauc3> sure thing
[18:41] <lolsauc3> the description of the ROM update I'm downloading: creates a bootable diskette to update the System ROM
[18:41] <lolsauc3> and enhancements: Adds new video BIOS to support Windows XP
[18:41] <kiiru> i think i'll just go and buy another ps2 mouse then, thanks guys later
[18:42] <lolsauc3> sorry about that kiiru
[18:42] <lolsauc3> ohwell
[18:48] <lolsauc3> okay, it has to put it on a floppy lol
[18:48] <lolsauc3> a 3.5"
[18:48] <lolsauc3> I'm formatting one right now
[18:48] <lolsauc3> then I'll use it
[18:48] <lolsauc3> I feel so ghetto with a 3.5"
[18:48] <lolsauc3> lol
[18:50] <lolsauc3> okay, it's writing now
[18:52] <lolsauc3> alright
[18:52] <lolsauc3> now I'm going to attempt
[18:52] <lolsauc3> wish me luck
[18:53] <lolsauc3> oh, it's doing it automatically
[18:54] <lolsauc3> holy fuck it scared the shit out of me
[18:54] <lolsauc3> it beeped really loud
[18:54] <lolsauc3> I hope that isnt bad
[18:54] <FloodBotK2> lolsauc3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:54] <BluesKaj> lolsauc3, language
[18:54] <lolsauc3> oh, I'm sorry
[18:55] <lolsauc3> hmm
[18:55] <lolsauc3> Error, 0251: system CMOS checksum bad-Default configuration used
[18:55] <lolsauc3> the bios is still working
[18:55] <lolsauc3> I just think it may have screwed up
[18:57] <lolsauc3> okay, this time it worked
[18:58] <BluesKaj> reboot lolsauc3 , then do a memtest
[18:58] <lolsauc3> sure thing
[19:02] <BluesKaj> BBL ..errands to do.
[19:02] <lolsauc3> kk
[19:04] <lolsauc3> BluesKaj, memtest will probably take a while
[19:04] <lolsauc3> I'll be back when results are in
[19:12] <Galaen> hello
[19:13] <Galaen> i have a little problem with amarok when i try to download the jacquettes of my riped cd's it can't download
[19:14] <Galaen> cover sorry
[19:16] <lolsauc3> BluesKaj, so far 29% pass and I had one failing address
[19:21] <linuxguy> areay0: are you still here?
[19:24] <lolsauc3> okay, BluesKaj, I hit a bad patch
[19:24] <lolsauc3> I have 21 errors so far
[19:27] <lolsauc3> 24 errors
[19:27] <lolsauc3> maybe my memory is a lemon?
[19:27] <linuxguy> brb
[19:31] <lolsauc3> 26 errors
[19:33] <apetrescu> What is the 'recommended' KDE4 newsreader? Is it still KNode?
[19:34] <lolsauc3> 28 errors
[19:34] <lolsauc3> :P
[19:34] <lolsauc3> darn
[19:35] <mauri> is there a program to perform a dvd movie backup?
[19:35] <apetrescu> mauri: handbrake
[19:36] <mauri> apetrescu: is ti able to remove dvd protections?
[19:36] <apetrescu> mauri: You have to decrypt it first before you pass it through handbrake
[19:37] <James147> wheeeeeeeeeeeee3
[19:37] <apetrescu> They have them in the Medibuntu repository
[19:37] <apetrescu> mauri: Hope this helps: http://www.stchman.com/dvd_rip.html
[19:38] <onlooker> Hi. Is there a way to recursively chmod a folder, but only affecting the files and not folders within?
[19:39] <mauri> apetrescu: tnk
[19:41] <dennis00> How can apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop, it only frees 97kb it says, am I doing something wrong besides removing kubuntu?
[19:43] <mauri> apetrescu: just the last question....what can i use to decrypt the dvd?
[19:44] <onlooker> dennis00: That's because it's a so-called metapackage. Those packages don't contain anything, all they do is depend on other packages
[19:44] <dennis00> How do I remove kubuntu then? :-(
[19:46] <onlooker> dennis00: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome <- Not sure if this applies to 9.04, but it's worth a shot
[19:52] <areay> the "Activate" button doesn't work in jockey-kde
[19:52] <areay> i click it and nothing happens
[19:52] <areay> and there's no errors reported in the command line
[19:53] <areay> makes no sense at all
[20:30] <BluesKaj> areay0, are you choosing the recomended driver in the list ?
[20:38] <sheldon_85> hi, everyone has the KDE packages for ubuntu karmic compiled with qt 4.6 ?
[20:44] <jlnkjnk> hi, how can i disable bold fonts in konsole?
[20:45] <jlnkjnk> when i choose my font i select regular not bold, still ls command show dirs in bold and the other files in normal font weight
[21:11] <kenan> !restricted
[21:12] <mostafa_> when I apply the patch this error happend "Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R?" what is my problem?
[21:15] <honest> нихуясебе
[21:38] <_motti__> hi guys. I looked at my system monitor and I have java running constantly at ~124KB of memory and 2% of cpu. the parent process is wrapper-linux-x. what is going?
[22:19] <Mr_Giraffe> does anybody know what package kdecorations.h is supposed to be in?
[22:19] <Mr_Giraffe> er, kdecoration.h*
[22:21] <tsimpson> !find kdecoration.h
[22:21] <Mr_Giraffe> tsimpson: I had found it about 30 seconds ago, thanks though :P
[22:22] <Mr_Giraffe> uh, two more things, since I'm trying KDE coming from GNOME...
[22:22] <Mr_Giraffe> 1) is there any way to get a network-manager type thing in the system tray?
[22:22] <tsimpson> knetworkmanager
[22:23] <Mr_Giraffe> sweet!
[22:23] <Ev0luti0n_> yup
[22:23] <Ev0luti0n_> add the widget and place it there
[22:23] <Mr_Giraffe> hmm, I think I'm getting used to this...
[22:23] <Ev0luti0n_> :D
[22:24] <Mr_Giraffe> oh HELL yes, there's a scrolling RSS widget
[22:24] <Ev0luti0n_> if you are like me on this thing, the thing you'll fancy the most are the buttons located everywhere with which you can install themes and new content
[22:24] <Mr_Giraffe> haha well, I'm still trying to figure that bit out
[22:24] <Mr_Giraffe> Ev0luti0n_: what's a decent theme for KDE?
[22:24] <Ev0luti0n_> right click on the desktop -> appearence settings -> get new themes
[22:24] <Ev0luti0n_> experience that
[22:25] <Mr_Giraffe> whoa
[22:25] <Mr_Giraffe> whoa.
[22:25] <Ev0luti0n_> sort items by rating
[22:25] <Ev0luti0n_> :D
[22:25] <Ev0luti0n_> or by most downloads
[22:25] <Ev0luti0n_> just click install
[22:25] <FloodBotK2> Ev0luti0n_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <tsimpson> there's also tons more on kdelook.org
[22:25] <Ev0luti0n_> bam, it's done and ready to use!
[22:25] <Ev0luti0n_> yup
[22:25] <tsimpson> which is where those themes you see are from
[22:26] <Mr_Giraffe> right, I gathered that much
[22:26] <Mr_Giraffe> that's really neat, actually
[22:26] <Ev0luti0n_> :)
[22:26] <Ev0luti0n_> to get new widgets, new emoticons, new wallpapers, it's the similar process
[22:26] <Ev0luti0n_> try searching for new wallpapers
[22:26] <Ev0luti0n_> hehehe
[22:26] <Ev0luti0n_> :)
[22:26] <Mr_Giraffe> so if I want to change the window border, that's more compilation than anything else, right?
[22:26] <Ev0luti0n_> go to the appearence settings, on the settings panel
[22:27] <Ev0luti0n_> konqueror - computer - system settings -> appearence settings
[22:27] <Mr_Giraffe> oh, right, I mean installing new themes
[22:27] <Mr_Giraffe> or new window borders...whatever the right term is
[22:28] <Ev0luti0n_> i couldn't figure that out yet
[22:28] <Ev0luti0n_> fiddle around with the settings on the settings panel
[22:28] <Ev0luti0n_> :)
[22:28] <Ev0luti0n_> im a newbie also, i can't help you much
[22:28] <tsimpson> window themes need to be compiled, there are a couple included in kubuntu, search for kwin-style in a package manager
[22:28] <tsimpson> there's also kwin-style-dekorator, which lets you customize things more easily
[22:29] <Ev0luti0n_> tsimpson: when you mean compiled, you mean installed through kpackagekit?
[22:29] <tsimpson> compiled means you download the source and turn it into binary modules
[22:29] <Ev0luti0n_> erm......
[22:30] <Ev0luti0n_> it would be a neat thing if plasma themes also skinned window deco and kde stuff
[22:30] <tsimpson> dekorator makes things easier though
[22:30] <Ev0luti0n_> very very neat
[22:30] <tsimpson> with decorator you shouldn't have to compile the themes made for it
[22:31] <tsimpson> *dekorator
[22:31] <Mr_Giraffe> hmm, I installed kwin-style-serenity and didn't really get anything...
[22:31] <Mr_Giraffe> do I need to restart KDE or something?
[22:31] <Ev0luti0n_> installed that already
[22:31] <tsimpson> you should see it in as a style option in system settings
[22:32] <Mr_Giraffe> hmm, I'm not seeing it...
[22:32] <Mr_Giraffe> system settings -> appearance -> style?
[22:33] <tsimpson> under windows
[22:33] <Ev0luti0n_> i installed kwin decorator
[22:33] <Ev0luti0n_> and also can't find it
[22:33] <Mr_Giraffe> ruh roh
[22:33] <tsimpson> make sure to close/restart system settings after installing it
[22:34] <tsimpson> it only populates the list of styles on loading
[22:34] <Ev0luti0n_> O.o
[22:35] <Mr_Giraffe> hmm, I feel like I'm probably doing something wrong here
[22:35] <Mr_Giraffe> given that I can't find the darn thing
[22:36] <tsimpson> System Settings -> Appearance -> Windows
[22:36] <Ev0luti0n_> Mr_Giraffe: that is normal
[22:36] <tsimpson> there's a drop-down box with the styles
[22:37] <Ev0luti0n_> i couldn't find the wallpapers when i first tried. Then after searching on the web, i learned that it was normal only 2 screensavers where installed. You had to install kscreensavers
[22:37] <Ev0luti0n_> hehehe
[22:37] <mario__> hola a todos
[22:37] <Ev0luti0n_> boa noite
[22:39] <Mr_Giraffe> tsimpson: I'm going there and then there's no real change from what I had before
[22:40] <Mr_Giraffe> also hmm. for some reason the previews of the windows are rather...broken.
[22:41] <Ev0luti0n_> fellas, for who enjoys hard techno
[22:41] <Ev0luti0n_> http://91.121.211.203:8160
[22:41] <Ev0luti0n_> radio-tube.pl excellent stream radio now playing
[22:41] <tsimpson> Mr_Giraffe: I just installed dekorator and restarted system settings, then it showed up
[22:42] <Mr_Giraffe> tsimpson: how do I restart system settings?
[22:42] <Mr_Giraffe> killall ... & ...?
[22:42] <tsimpson> close it and reopen it
[22:42] <Mr_Giraffe> hmm
[22:42] <Mr_Giraffe> I did the same thing and I don't see anything referencing dekorator under settings -> appearance -> windows
[22:43] <tsimpson> in the drop-down list you should see "DeKorator"
[22:44] <Mr_Giraffe> right, but I'm not seeing that...
[22:44] <tsimpson> after installing kwin-style-dekorator?
[22:44] <Mr_Giraffe> yep
[22:44] <Mr_Giraffe> installed kwin-style-dekorator and style-settings doesn't have anything in it
[22:45] <Mr_Giraffe> grr, I keep having issues with system tray icon corruption too. :(
[22:47] <tsimpson> shows up under system settings -> appearance -> windows for me: http://img408.imageshack.us/i/systemsettings.jpg/
[22:48] <Mr_Giraffe> strange
[22:48] <Mr_Giraffe> I'll just restart KDE real quick and that should (ideally) get it there
[22:51] <Mr_Giraffe> hmm...still no luck
[22:52] <Mr_Giraffe> you know, I'm also having some issues with corruption of the window bars in the preview window thing and also icon corruption in the system tray
[22:53] <tsimpson> the preview thing is known, and some GTK icons do become corrupt, but that's down to the icons GTK apps use
[22:54] <Mr_Giraffe> it's with all of them actually
[22:54] <tsimpson> all of them, that's strange
[22:54] <Mr_Giraffe> the default volume icon is about half missing atm
[22:55] <Mr_Giraffe> there appear to be some strange bugs going on here...
[23:07] <shadowhywind> just wondering, since its slow, anyone running karmic here?
[23:07] <Mr_Giraffe> shadowhywind: nope, intrepid
[23:08] <Mr_Giraffe> oh right
[23:08] <shadowhywind> ah
[23:08] <Mr_Giraffe> tsimpson: when I change the plasma theme to gaia the text on the system tray is still black, making the whole thing kinda tough to read...any way to get around that?
[23:09] <tsimpson> Mr_Giraffe: you have text in the system tray?
[23:10] <Mr_Giraffe> tsimpson: er, task manager
[23:10] <Mr_Giraffe> sorry, bad with nomenclature
[23:14] <tsimpson> Mr_Giraffe: I think that should be down to the theme used, but you should be able to edit it from System s
[23:14] <tsimpson> System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors
[23:16] <tsimpson> I'm not sure there is a way, without editing the theme actually...
[23:46] <Mr_Giraffe> tsimpson: when I hit alt-f2 to bring up the run command window, is that themed by plasma?
[23:46] <Ev0luti0n_> yup
[23:47] <tsimpson> it is
[23:48] <Mr_Giraffe> hmm, strange
[23:48] <Mr_Giraffe> because that window seems to be stuck themed by gaia...whereas the rest of my plasma theme is not
[23:50] <tsimpson> wait until you see a notification, quite ugly IMO
[23:50] <Mr_Giraffe> oh, gaia is?
[23:51] <tsimpson> yeah, all white with a rainbow circle thing
[23:52] <Mr_Giraffe> right now my main concern is the fact that the task manager is hopelessly broken when I try to use gaia
[23:52] <Mr_Giraffe> black text on dark grey...not so nice
[23:53] <tsimpson> http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2746/snap2z.jpg
[23:53] <tsimpson> not pretty
[23:53] <Mr_Giraffe> ugh
[23:53] <Mr_Giraffe> what's with the jagged edges...?
[23:53] <Mr_Giraffe> that's awful
[23:54] <tsimpson> and it's really large, doesn't need to be anywhere near that size
[23:55] <Mr_Giraffe> mm
[23:55] <Mr_Giraffe> man, I'm still having this icon corruption issue
[23:55] <Mr_Giraffe> I'm not quire sure what's going on there...