[06:15] <mac_v> ckontros: http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/icons-types.html.en#document_icons
[06:16] <mac_v> the first part is specifically against the use of the paper for music files ,
[06:17] <mac_v> its like how we differentiate /incoming/sebas_mimes/application-x-executable.svg  and /incoming/sebas_mimes/text-x-script.svg
[06:20] <darkmatter> they better ban the use of paper metaphors in general then, as nothing on the system is actually on paper :D
[10:49] <ckontros> mac_v: While I appreciate the link, we're gonna design the icons as we see fit.
[10:49] <ckontros> Not trying to sound crappy. Just wanna acknowledge receiving the link, though I somewhat disagree with it.
[10:53] <mac_v> ckontros: yeah , i disagree with the part about using text in the icons ... but someone filed a bug and pointed that link regarding humanity's icon ... so wanted to show it ;)
[10:53] <ckontros> mac_v: Thanx
[11:06] <nysosym> good morning :)
[11:36] <nysosym> mac_v: is a grey panel icon for ubuntu one planned? :)
[11:38] <mac_v> nysosym: it already has the ubuntuone icons , but they seems to be not used :/ i think it was more due to the reasons that the app might need code change
[11:40] <darkmatter> is it just my OS's, or does GNOME 2.28's tooltips make balloon sounds when they pop up? oO
[11:40] <darkmatter> hello xp.... /facepalm
[12:28] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[13:31] <mac_v> mat_t: heya... the shutdown icon was updated ;) the screenshot you showed helped speed up stuff ;p
[13:33] <mat_t> mac_v: yeah, just updated - looks great :)
[14:48] <ckontros> mac_v: One thing about this whole drive naming shuffle is that now my media players done come up as such. (iPod and iRiver players) One comes up as a thumb drive and the other as a usb harddrive.
[14:50] <mac_v> ckontros: try adding a drive-removable-ipod or a media-removable-ipod? see if that works?
[14:52] <ckontros> They are there.
[14:52] <ckontros> Oh wait.
[14:52]  * ckontros looks
[14:54] <ckontros> mac_v: So then multimedia-player-* no longer is the standard convention?
[14:55] <mac_v> ckontros: did it work? i think we can leave those names as is and just add symlinks... the names are needed when users upgrade rather than fresh install
[14:56] <ckontros> Hell with it. I'm leaving it as-is. I'll say upstream is nuts and broke it all. I'll rename the actual icons according to the spec when it's done. I'm tired of the moving target.
[17:07] <nysosym> hi there
[17:09] <nysosym> mac_v: is a gray panel icon for file operations planed?
[17:15] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[17:15] <nysosym> hi
[20:26] <mac_v> dashua: around?
[20:52] <mac_v> anyone know how to remove the focus around the slider ?  http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-The%20Widget%20Factory.png
[21:08] <zniavre> mac_v,  in scale (whatever the name here it's scale-murrine) bg[SELECTED]	 = @bg_color  but it takes the bg color for the slider
[21:12] <zniavre> http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4167/capture1z.png
[21:12] <zniavre> http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6946/captureznt.png
[21:13] <mac_v> zniavre: ah ha! ... got it thanks... that was driving me crazy :(
[21:13] <zniavre> :o)
[21:15] <mac_v> zniavre: for some reason i kept missing this setting! i always remember not to use murrine for slider! argh! silly me.! i like clearlooks for slider :)
[21:17] <zniavre> CLASSIC OR GLOSSY ?
[21:17] <zniavre> oops sorry for caps-locks
[21:18] <mac_v> zniavre: glossy
[21:18] <zniavre> i do not like the classic one (it remind me ubuntulooks)
[21:18] <mac_v> with glossy , the slider knob can be as small as we like :)
[21:18] <mac_v> and still look decent
[21:19] <zniavre> it can be round ?
[21:19] <zniavre> as in my screenshot?
[21:20] <mac_v> zniavre: round i'm not sure , how do you get it round?
[21:21] <mac_v> GtkScale::slider-length = 10 , this is an easy one
[21:22] <zniavre> engine murrine added roundness = 7
[21:22] <zniavre> you can see the gtkrc in the shot
[21:24] <mac_v> zniavre: oh yeah... i dont think there is a roundness option in clearlooks
[21:24] <zniavre> radius does not exists anymore?
[21:27] <mac_v> zniavre: doesnt seem to work... or maybe i'm doing it wrong
[21:27] <mac_v> engine "clearlooks"{
[21:27] <mac_v> 		contrast = 1.0
[21:27] <mac_v> 		radius = 0.0
[21:27] <mac_v> 		style = GLOSSY
[21:27] <mac_v> 	}
[21:28] <dashua> mac_v, Sup mate?
[21:29] <mac_v> dashua: i was litterally pulling my hair after accidentally using murrine engine for the slider and forgetting about it ;p ... zniavre rescued me ;)
[21:29] <dashua> Ah nice
[21:30] <dashua> Still working on your blue Dust Sand theme?
[21:30] <dashua> Image was gone
[21:30] <mac_v> dashua: oh , i'm doing a mix of your hanso and kwwii's login theme
[21:31] <dashua> Sweet.
[21:31] <dashua> Why the industrial engine?
[21:31] <dashua> Sure, there is a reason.
[21:32] <mac_v> dashua: the window border is from kwwii's
[21:32] <mac_v> metacity
[21:32] <dashua> Cool, can you repost that image?
[21:32] <dashua> Expired.
[21:34] <zniavre> are you speaking about HumanLogin metacity ?
[21:38] <mac_v> dashua: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-2.png
[21:38] <mac_v> zniavre: yeah , or was it more from your theme  ;)
[21:43] <dashua> zniavre, widget_class "*GdmGreeterPanel*" style "dark"
[21:43] <dashua> Did you try that for your GDM issues?
[21:43] <dashua> mac_v, Nice
[21:44] <dashua> Ofc dark will have to be defined
[21:44] <mac_v> doing stuff in black mess-up a lot of stuff :( ... just started hacking this up...
[21:44] <zniavre> dashua,  im starting vbox to try right now
[21:45] <dashua> Use the dark defintion from Hanso if it was not included in DarkHuman
[21:46] <dashua> mac_v, It's truly a mess going black.
[21:52] <zniavre> dashua,  http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2347/capture2pf.png
[21:52] <zniavre> no it does not work
[21:54] <dashua> Did you add a style = "dark" ?
[21:55] <dashua> http://paste.ubuntu.com/291128/
[21:55] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/27188/screenshot_006_9zUuI6.png
[21:55] <dashua> This is pretty sexxy
[21:56] <dashua> You Xubuntu guys have some good taste ;)
[21:57] <mac_v> dashua: why adding breathe for hanso? it wouldnt be in the default install so might prompt , theme wont work
[21:58] <dashua> It's always been there and Andrew added a dependency for it in the community-themes package
[21:58] <dashua> I didn't want to screw things up too bad
[21:59] <mac_v> oh... if its in the dependencies ... then not a problem :)
[21:59] <dashua> Yeah
[21:59] <zniavre> dashua,  still does not work
[21:59] <dashua> It will get more exposure too as Humanity is already getting it by default
[21:59] <zniavre> even with your dark style
[21:59] <dashua> zniavre, Damn
[22:00] <dashua> GDM is evil.  I don't know what else to say. =/
[22:00] <zniavre> i was thinking about gtkHBox but i did not success
[22:00] <dashua> Try changing fg[NORMAL] to a dark color in the dark style?
[22:01] <zniavre> what is funny it has the same behavior of XUL apps (reverse bg/fg for menu)
[22:01] <dashua> Yeah, that is crazy
[22:01] <dashua> Thunderbird does some weird thing as well
[22:01] <dashua> things*
[22:01] <zniavre> it change only the color of font of the panel not the widget inside the pnel
[22:01] <zniavre> panel*
[22:02] <zniavre> (sorry for my bad english  :o(  )
[22:02] <dashua> Np
[22:02] <zniavre> thank you
[22:04] <dashua> mac_v, The Bluetooth icon in elementary is sexxy.  Maybe something like that for Breathe?
[22:04] <dashua> It would integrate pretty nice.
[22:05] <mac_v> dashua: i think breathe is frozen for now... not sure when work will start again...
[22:05] <dashua> Ah alright.
[22:20] <kwwii> breathe is not frozen, people need to step up and help
[22:20] <kwwii> anyway, night