[00:02] <fagan> Rocket2DMn: So are you guys going to remove the GRUB stuff from karmic? Its kinda redundant keeping it there if its not the default.
[00:16] <Rocket2DMn> fagan, we'll keep Grub for Karmic since it is only default on fresh installs
[00:16] <fagan> Oh ok then
[00:16] <Rocket2DMn> besides we dont have any grub2 documentation in Karmic, we dropped the ball on that one
[00:17] <Rocket2DMn> We'll have to check out the planned changes for Lucid, with any luck it will be all Grub2 so we don't need to maintain the docs for Grub
[00:17] <fagan> we should make a bug to keep track of it
[00:20] <fagan> Ill write one up and assign it to myself for the moment
[00:22] <fagan> Ah ill just keep track of it using the old bug no use making a new one
[00:23] <fagan> night night guys
[00:23] <Saj0577_> night fagan
[00:26] <starcraftman> night fagan
[01:29] <mo0nykit> Hello! I'd like to contribute a solution relating to Acer Aspire 4520 and the Nvidia proprietary drivers. Should I add it to the LaptopTestingTeam pages?
[01:44] <starcraftman> mo0nykit: lo there
[01:57] <stlsaint> ooohhh hello all
[02:00] <Saj0577_> hey stlsaint
[02:06] <starcraftman> hey there stlsaint, don't worry, doc channel kinda quiet often. If ya post though someone usually gets back to ya
[02:08] <stlsaint> kk
[11:23]  * Zachk18 is away: I'm off to bed....later dudes
[14:22] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, do we have any sort of recurring task list that we use to make sure we don't miss anything for a release?
[14:37] <Rocket2DMn> brb
[17:19] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: no but it might be a good idea - do you have something specific in mind?
[17:26] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, something straightforward would suffice, like a checklist on the wiki
[17:26] <Rocket2DMn> ya know, to make sure we don't miss silly things, like have happened before
[17:27] <Rocket2DMn> for instance, we left the DRAFT watermark on the h.u.c pages once, i think another time we forgot the change the version variable in the system docs
[17:28] <Rocket2DMn> if you wanted a LP bug as a reminder, you could do that too, and just open it for each dev cycle
[17:28] <Rocket2DMn> with a wiki page you could mark each task as complete as you go, then have a bug that links to it, and close the task for a release whent he checklist is complete
[17:28] <Rocket2DMn> it's just an idea, but I do think we need something so it's not just all in our heads
[17:37] <Saj0577> Hey guys does that latest email mean we can now edit the ubuntu-doc 's again?
[17:45] <Rocket2DMn> Saj0577, yeah, depending on how you setup your local copy of the branch, you can get the latest
[17:45] <Rocket2DMn> if you are bound to lp:ubuntu-docs then you are pulling from the dev (lucid) branch
[17:45] <Saj0577> Rocket2DMn: okay and that is the wrong one yeah?
[17:46] <Rocket2DMn> Saj0577, most work goes into the dev branch
[17:46] <Saj0577> so which branch do i want then to make sure i am being productive?
[17:47] <Rocket2DMn> the main ubuntu-docs branch
[17:47] <Rocket2DMn> Saj0577, see https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs
[17:48] <Saj0577> argh right cos im currently using lp:ubuntu-doc  so i got the right one
[18:08] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: there is one for the regular distribution I think, but not for doc specific. I think it's a good idea to use a wiki page
[18:08] <mdke> bbiab
[18:09]  * Saj0577 hate snetsplits
[18:48] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rocket2DMn/Sandbox/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Checklist
[21:24] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: looks good. I'm making a few tweaks...
[21:26] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: I think it will be a very useful page, thanks for working on that
[21:28] <Rocket2DMn> no problem mdke , i dont know the full process, so it's all yours to deal with
[21:28] <Rocket2DMn> you can import it to the team wiki area when you're ready
[21:32] <dutchie> anybody mind merging https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jshholland/xubuntu-docs/fix-363365?
[21:34] <mdke> dutchie: we're in string freeze at the moment, but it can be merged to the lucid branch when that is created for xubuntu
[21:35] <dutchie> even for one letter?
[21:35] <mdke> dutchie: yep, afraid so - changing one letter leads to the whole string needing retranslation in every language
[21:35] <mdke> and it's unfair to the translators for us to change that so late - we might consider it for a critical bug but not just for a typo
[21:35] <dutchie> surely any translators will have noticed that it's spelt wrong and worked accordingly
[21:36] <mdke> yes, but that's not how translations work, unfortunately. Once the english string changes, any translations of the previous string will be lost
[21:36] <dutchie> that's a pain then
[21:36] <mdke> the new string needs to be retranslated
[21:37] <mdke> yeah, it's a pain
[21:37] <mdke> dutchie: thanks for the work though, we'll merge it when possible
[21:38] <dutchie> well, it's not really work, but you're welcom
[21:38] <dutchie> e
[21:38] <mdke> it all counts :)
[21:52] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: see what you think of the latest changes. i'd like to add later some intermediate stages for testing and such like, as discussed recently on the ML
[22:19] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, that looks better.  Are there more tasks that should be on the list?
[22:19] <Rocket2DMn> other than what you just said
[22:20] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: can't think of any off the top of my head. I think we'll add them as we think of them
[22:22] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: ok, moved into the main wiki section, thanks again
[22:23] <Rocket2DMn> sure thing
[22:24] <Rocket2DMn> i keep getting all these new email now, i'm trying to figure out how to organize my mailbox
[22:24] <Rocket2DMn> sort of adapting as they come
[22:25] <mdke> commit notifications?
[22:25] <Rocket2DMn> yeah and other admin-type emails, like users joining and applying and whatnot
[22:26] <mdke> ah yeah
[22:26] <mdke> I filter bzr notifications with subject:(Branch ~ubuntu-core-doc/ubuntu-docs)
[22:27] <mdke> the team membership emails are a real pita
[22:27] <mdke> I use from:(noreply@launchpad.net) "has been added as a member of"
[22:27] <mdke> but that's horrendously ugly
[22:28] <Rocket2DMn> for branch notifications i added: from:(noreply@launchpad.net) subject:([Branch *) "Your team Ubuntu Documentation Committers is subscribed to branch" has:attachment
[22:29] <mdke> sounds fine
[22:29] <Rocket2DMn> bug emails (for those i'm not directly subscribed to): ubject:(* [Bug *) (ubuntu-docs OR kubuntu-docs OR xubuntu-docs OR gnome-user-docs)
[22:29] <mdke> gmail sucks for filtering
[22:30] <Rocket2DMn> yeah, but if it gets the job down, it's free and has a lot of space
[22:31] <mdke> yeah, I love it anyway :)
[22:31] <Rocket2DMn> yeah, i created an account just for ubuntu stuff
[22:32] <mdke> ah, I use mine for everything
[22:33] <Rocket2DMn> ok, i'm gonna delete the draft for that page from my sandbox
[22:33] <Rocket2DMn> got everything you need?
[23:13] <mdke> Rocket2DMn: I just moved the page
[23:14] <Rocket2DMn> oh, ok