| lifeless | bug 449105 | 00:00 |
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| ubot3` | Malone bug 449105 in launchpad "logging into sourceforge with openid breaks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/449105 | 00:00 |
| mup | Bug #449105: logging into sourceforge with openid breaks <Launchpad itself:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/449105> | 00:00 |
| mup | Bug #449105: logging into sourceforge with openid breaks <Launchpad itself:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/449105> | 00:00 |
| mup | Bug #449105: logging into sourceforge with openid breaks <Launchpad itself:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/449105> | 00:00 |
| lifeless | oh joy | 00:01 |
| lifeless | happy mup | 00:01 |
| wgrant | lifeless: I think it's SF.net misbehaving. | 00:06 |
| wgrant | lifeless: It's only half-respecting the delegation. | 00:06 |
| * thumper away doing emails | 00:06 | |
| lifeless | wgrant: happens with apache2-mod-openid | 00:06 |
| lifeless | wgrant: which I was trying to setup last week, looks exactly the same | 00:07 |
| wgrant | lifeless: The proprietary Canonical fork, or an open one? | 00:07 |
| lifeless | apt-get install | 00:07 |
| wgrant | Aha. | 00:07 |
| * wgrant checks the source. | 00:07 | |
| lifeless | wgrant: what proprietary canonical fork? | 00:07 |
| wgrant | lifeless: https://launchpad.net/apache-openid | 00:08 |
| lifeless | wgrant: looks to be all handed back to me | 00:10 |
| lifeless | wgrant: oh, and I think its a different code base anyhow - there are *two* apache openid modules | 00:11 |
| lifeless | yeah, thats mpopenid, not openid | 00:11 |
| lifeless | wgrant: (mod python openid is what we use, apache2-mod-openid is written in C I think) | 00:12 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 00:12 |
| wgrant | The author of libopkele seems to have had a vendetta against whitespace. | 00:16 |
| lifeless | http://freshmeat.net/projects/libopkele/ ? | 00:25 |
| wgrant | That one. | 00:26 |
| lifeless | you're tracking down a root cause? | 00:27 |
| wgrant | I am. | 00:27 |
| lifeless | cool, thank you | 00:36 |
| * mwhudson lunches | 01:01 | |
| wgrant | lifeless: c-i-p bug. It's not present in the copy that I of course didn't retrieve from lp:launchpad's history, because I'm not allowed to do that. | 01:10 |
| wgrant | lifeless: All the declarations in the page are fine, but c-i-p now provides XRDS for OpenID 1.0 and 1.1, as well as 2.0 (which it always has) | 01:10 |
| wgrant | The XRDS overrides the declarations on the page itself, and doesn't specify the identity to delegate to. | 01:11 |
| wgrant | Just the server. | 01:11 |
| lifeless | c-i-p ? | 01:14 |
| lifeless | oh, canonical-identity-provider? | 01:14 |
| lifeless | wgrant: I presume you'll put the details into my bug? | 01:15 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Yep, doing so now. | 01:15 |
| lifeless | thanks! | 01:15 |
| wgrant | I was very confused for a while before I noticed the XRDS link. | 01:16 |
| wgrant | Because identical delegation code worked fine elsewhere. | 01:16 |
| lifeless | kfogel: http://www.pmease.com/features/screentour/ | 03:17 |
| lifeless | kfogel: /nice/ 'tour' presentation | 03:18 |
| spm | wgrant: that buildd issue - *should* be sorted now | 03:27 |
| wgrant | spm: Thanks. What was the issue? | 04:03 |
| spm | firewall upgrade and subtle funkies thereof | 04:03 |
| wgrant | Lovely. | 04:04 |
| spm | excluding the ones I did - which always worked perfectly. natch - I've never known a firewall upgrade/change to go perfectly. ;-) | 04:07 |
| spm | my mates at $job-1 went thru 3-5 iterations of pain trying to work with the gateway provider (as it so happens $job-2 :-) ) | 04:08 |
| spm | where each iteration is around 5-8 hours from midnight | 04:08 |
| wgrant | Urgh. | 04:08 |
| spm | and that was *just* the final firewall to the corporate network | 04:08 |
| spm | not including the 4 or so DMZ ones just for their webserver farm | 04:09 |
| spm | each of which has 13-17 active interfaces. \o/ | 04:09 |
| spm | I *so* don't miss working at $job-2 :-D | 04:09 |
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| adeuring | good morning | 08:34 |
| mrevell | Morning! | 09:24 |
| wgrant | bigjools: I need some hints on writing tests for the ddeb stuff. | 10:07 |
| bigjools | heh | 10:07 |
| bigjools | you mean you didn't write the tests first? :) | 10:08 |
| wgrant | No, no, I am writing them first. | 10:08 |
| wgrant | I'm not that crazy. | 10:08 |
| bigjools | ok | 10:08 |
| bigjools | you need to figure out all the places in the code where we're likely to need to keep a ddeb change in parallel | 10:09 |
| bigjools | I hope this is mostly in BPPH | 10:09 |
| wgrant | It should be. | 10:09 |
| bigjools | and if not we should move code into BPPH | 10:09 |
| bigjools | I suspect nascentupload will be a pig | 10:09 |
| gmb | Does anyone mind if I set fire to checkwatches? No? Good. | 10:09 |
| bigjools | and PackageUpload too | 10:10 |
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| bigjools | once you figure that out, write tests to match your expected behaviour, in fact you can probably just alter the existing ones on BPPH for copy, override etc | 10:10 |
| wgrant | nascentupload gets a bit hard, as BPR is immutable but BPRs will now need to refer to other BPRs created in the same upload. I guess I'll need to create the DDEBs first. | 10:10 |
| bigjools | hmmm interesting, what is making BPRs immutable? | 10:11 |
| wgrant | DB and Zope permissions. | 10:11 |
| wgrant | No user has more than SELECT+INSERT on BPR. | 10:11 |
| wgrant | Which seems sane. | 10:12 |
| bigjools | well we can change it if it makes sense | 10:12 |
| wgrant | Actually, that can't be right. | 10:12 |
| wgrant | Because queue overrides modify the BPR, don't they? | 10:12 |
| * wgrant looks again. | 10:12 | |
| bigjools | nascentupload runs zopeless | 10:12 |
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| wgrant | OK, so queued is the only real thing that can UPDATE BPR. I guess uploader could be allowed to. | 10:14 |
| wgrant | But anyway. | 10:14 |
| bigjools | wgrant: you probably won't need to | 10:14 |
| bigjools | change the sql config I mean, the uploader won't have committed anything so you're only updating the storm copy | 10:15 |
| wgrant | It will have flushed it. | 10:15 |
| wgrant | Because storeInDatabase does queries of some kind. | 10:15 |
| bigjools | bah | 10:15 |
| wgrant | I've tested this; it is problematic in practice. | 10:15 |
| bigjools | ok | 10:15 |
| bigjools | fix security.cfg then | 10:15 |
| wgrant | OK. | 10:16 |
| wgrant | Now, the tests of new nascentupload functionality involve checking state at various points over a sequence of about 5 uploads. I think it might be neatest to have it all as one big doctest, although they seem to be losing favour... | 10:17 |
| jml | hello. | 10:17 |
| bigjools | yeah, I'm unsure of which is the best direction, but possibly a combo of both | 10:18 |
| bigjools | hi jml | 10:18 |
| bigjools | did you know there was a TV station called JML in the UK? :) | 10:18 |
| jml | no, I didn't. | 10:18 |
| jml | or maybe mrevell told me once | 10:19 |
| jml | or twice | 10:19 |
| bigjools | wgrant: celso was moving towards using more unit tests as they are usually more focused on the actual test conditions | 10:19 |
| mrevell | bigjools: To my shame, I've told him all about the products of JML. | 10:19 |
| mrevell | repeatedly | 10:19 |
| mrevell | :) | 10:19 |
| bigjools | wgrant: there is one doctest that's an end-to-end test though, but it's currently disabled | 10:20 |
| bigjools | mrevell: ha :) | 10:20 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Now, this nascentupload-supertest will also end up testing for correct supersedure and overriding in the course of what it needs to do. So it's not strictly nascentupload-only. Ew. | 10:21 |
| bigjools | wgrant: that will be already tested somewhere (I forgot where) | 10:22 |
| wgrant | bigjools: So I should integrate the more specific DDEB tests alongside the existing tests for those methods? | 10:23 |
| bigjools | wgrant: yes, I think so, that would be the first place I'd expect to see them I think. | 10:23 |
| mwhudson | jml: good morning | 11:17 |
| jml | mwhudson, hello | 11:17 |
| jml | mwhudson, I just sent you an email. | 11:17 |
| mwhudson | jml: so you did | 11:17 |
| mwhudson | jml: thanks for the mail | 11:18 |
| jml | mwhudson, np. | 11:18 |
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| bigjools | thumper: still up? | 12:43 |
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| wgrant | bigjools: I see you are working on a branch to allow customisation of the first PPA's name. Does it still default to 'ppa'? | 13:01 |
| bigjools | no | 13:05 |
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| wgrant | bigjools: That seems like a bad idea. The display names that people come up with are bad enough. | 13:06 |
| jml | gary_poster, good morning | 13:09 |
| gary_poster | jml, good morning. | 13:11 |
| jml | gmb, if I wanted to learn about how our external bug tracking system works and what it does & doesn't do, where'd be the best place for me to look? | 13:22 |
| gmb | jml: Well, there's actually not all that much in-depth documentation for it (I've been meaning to write some). But there are some wiki pages that are relevant. Let me find them for you. | 13:23 |
| gmb | jml: Also, if you want to hurt yourself. there's lib/lp/bugs/externalbugtracker/* and lib/lp/bugs/scripts/checkwatches.py. The latter is a bit of a mind-bender. | 13:23 |
| jml | gmb, heh :) | 13:24 |
| jml | gmb, maybe a good idea is for me to read what docs there are & have a chat w/ you sometime after. | 13:25 |
| gmb | jml: Hmm, turns out that my dream of relevant wiki pages was optimistic... I can only find https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/BugWatches, which says nothing useful. | 13:25 |
| gmb | jml: Although, I did write this just the other day, which should tell you a bit about what's wrong with the current setup: https://dev.launchpad.net/Bugs/CheckwatchesNG | 13:26 |
| jml | gmb, thanks. | 13:26 |
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| bigjools | wgrant: they are *Personal* PAs, and it can't be any worse than "ppa" ... ! | 13:46 |
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| wgrant | bigjools: The old default ppa/'PPA for Some User' seems better than what people are coming up with now. There are no examples for what is appropriate. | 13:52 |
| bigjools | why do you think it's necessary to do that though? I'm not against it, just keen to know why. | 13:52 |
| bigjools | as an aside, I want to change the interface description to make it obvious that the name appears in the URL and the description in the GPG key | 13:53 |
| wgrant | I bet a lot of people are going to start naming their first PPA with their username. | 13:54 |
| wgrant | Is the display name used in the OpenPGP key? I thought it was 'Launchpad PPA for $owner'... but I haven't checked the code. | 13:54 |
| bigjools | from memory it is | 13:54 |
| bigjools | but I've been wrong before :) | 13:54 |
| wgrant | Urgh. You're right. | 13:57 |
| wgrant | That sounds like a bug. | 13:57 |
| wgrant | As it's now shared between all PPAs. | 13:57 |
| bigjools | hmmm good point | 13:57 |
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| barry | gary_poster: ping | 14:51 |
| gary_poster | barry: hey are you taking today off? | 14:52 |
| barry | gary_poster: nope, swapping it. how about yourself? | 14:52 |
| gary_poster | barry: me too, cool! salgado has today off though. on call will ping you | 14:52 |
| barry | gary_poster: np | 14:52 |
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| gary_poster | barry: yo, let's start | 15:09 |
| gary_poster | barry, want to go to another channel? #launchpad-sprint or something silly? | 15:09 |
| barry | gary_poster: +1 | 15:10 |
| gary_poster | cool | 15:10 |
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| rockstar | barry, am I safe to assume there is no call today? | 16:12 |
| barry | rockstar: yep | 16:12 |
| * rockstar has been listening to smooth jazz for too long... | 16:13 | |
| * jml has been listening to _The Score_ for too long. | 16:17 | |
| barry | rockstar, abentley: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~launchpad/launchpad/python-migration | 16:33 |
| barry | rockstar, abentley i'm deleting that branch, so nm ;) | 16:35 |
| rockstar | barry, okay. | 16:35 |
| rockstar | barry, I think abentley is off on a national holiday today. | 16:36 |
| barry | rockstar: oh right. anyway the branch had a big warning that said just: MemoryError | 16:36 |
| rockstar | barry, eep. | 16:36 |
| barry | rockstar: might be reproducible by: branching off of stable; pushing w/no stacking (or with a --stacked-on that lp will deliberately ignore); wait for the puller to bomb | 16:37 |
| rockstar | barry, yeah, I could see how that might be it. | 16:38 |
| rockstar | I wonder if there's an open bug about that. | 16:38 |
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| leonardr | adeuring, i have a question about bug 402126 | 16:47 |
| mup | Bug #402126: top level publications must be public <lazr.restful:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/402126> | 16:47 |
| ubot3` | Malone bug 402126 in lazr.restful "top level publications must be public" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402126 | 16:47 |
| mup | Bug #402126: top level publications must be public <lazr.restful:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/402126> | 16:47 |
| mup | Bug #402126: top level publications must be public <lazr.restful:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/402126> | 16:47 |
| adeuring | leonardr: yes? | 16:48 |
| leonardr | presumably you tried to publish the hwdbapplication object as a top-level object, and it didn't work | 16:48 |
| leonardr | what was the failure? | 16:48 |
| adeuring | leonardr: I must admit that I can't remeber the details... | 16:48 |
| adeuring | leonardr: give me some time to reproduce. | 16:49 |
| leonardr | adeuring, sure | 16:49 |
| leonardr | rockstar, i have a question about bug 326307 | 16:55 |
| mup | Bug #326307: Need @property equivalent for the API <api> <lazr.restful:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/326307> | 16:55 |
| ubot3` | Malone bug 326307 in lazr.restful "Need @property equivalent for the API" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/326307 | 16:55 |
| mup | Bug #326307: Need @property equivalent for the API <api> <lazr.restful:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/326307> | 16:55 |
| mup | Bug #326307: Need @property equivalent for the API <api> <lazr.restful:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/326307> | 16:55 |
| leonardr | what is the accessor method you'd like to publish as a property? | 16:55 |
| leonardr | i'd like an example for a doc i'm writing | 16:55 |
| rockstar | leonardr, looking. | 16:56 |
| rockstar | leonardr, hm, it's been a while since I wanted that. Lemme look around. | 16:57 |
| rockstar | I'm sure I can find something. | 16:57 |
| leonardr | rockstar, thanks | 16:57 |
| rockstar | leonardr, how about IBranch.getPullURL exposed as IBranch.pull_url | 17:06 |
| leonardr | ok, great | 17:06 |
| adeuring | leonardr: I believe this patch re-enables HWDBApplication as a top-level publication (with access restriction): http://paste.ubuntu.com/291685/ Results in this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/291687/ | 17:20 |
| leonardr | adeuring: can you just except link_name from launchpad.View protection? | 17:26 |
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| leonardr | it might be better not to show hwdb at all, but then it wouldn't show up in the wadl | 17:27 |
| adeuring | leonardr: any hint for how to exempt link_name from the <require> rule? A simple addition of "allow attrinbutes="link_name" leads to the error "Failed to load application: Conflicting configuration actions" | 17:31 |
| leonardr | adeuring: unfortunately the only way i've found to do that is to restrict every field *except* the one you want to allow | 17:53 |
| leonardr | there's a slight chance gary will have a better idea | 17:53 |
| adeuring | leonardr: that would be good. Defining the complete set of restscited attributes would not be very convenient... | 17:54 |
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| gary_poster | adeuring: no, you can either arrange the interfaces to suit your needs better, or define the set, I'm afraid. | 18:16 |
| gary_poster | that's something we could theoretically improve. if you wanted to put a bug into foundations I could see how much support there is for it. describing what you want in a clear, compelling, and general way would probably help the sales pitch when I present it to others. Think of it as trying to sell it to your team leads. :-) | 18:16 |
| adeuring | gary_poster: OK; I'll add a comment to bug 402126 | 18:17 |
| ubot3` | Malone bug 402126 in lazr.restful "top level publications must be public" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402126 | 18:17 |
| mup | Bug #402126: top level publications must be public <lazr.restful:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/402126> | 18:17 |
| mup | Bug #402126: top level publications must be public <lazr.restful:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/402126> | 18:17 |
| mup | Bug #402126: top level publications must be public <lazr.restful:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/402126> | 18:17 |
| gary_poster | heh, mup + ubot3` == excitement! | 18:17 |
| gary_poster | adeuring: it's more of a problem in the zcml spelling | 18:18 |
| adeuring | gary_poster: yes, maybe | 18:18 |
| gary_poster | IOW, we would be redoing some zope bits to try to do what you want. I think. :-) eh, write up what you think you want and we'll see. ;-) | 18:18 |
| mrevell | Night all | 18:26 |
| gary_poster | bac, are you approving CPs? Is anyone to your knowledge? | 18:47 |
| gary_poster | (and hi btw :-) ) | 18:47 |
| bac | gary_poster: i am not. my RM powers expired a while back. you'll have to talk to flacoste | 18:48 |
| gary_poster | bac ok thanks. I figured, but was worth a check. (flacoste's out on nat. holiday afaik) | 18:49 |
| * rockstar lunches | 19:06 | |
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| maxb | barry: You appear to have removed all my commentary on why particular tests failed | 20:16 |
| barry | maxb: dang. sorry for the hamfisted wiki editing. i'll try to revert that | 20:17 |
| barry | maxb: btw, you are very welcome to join gary_poster and myself on #launchpad-sprints! | 20:17 |
| maxb | s/sprints/sprint/ | 20:18 |
| barry | right, sorry. and changes reverted | 20:18 |
| EdwinGrubbs | barry: hi, can you mark this mp as reviewed so I can use "ec2 land" on it? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~edwin-grubbs/launchpad/bug-430708-registry-windmill-layer/+merge/13148 | 20:31 |
| barry | EdwinGrubbs: done | 20:33 |
| EdwinGrubbs | thanks | 20:33 |
| rockstar | mwhudson, when you're around, I'd like to chat with you about upgrading stacked branches. | 20:36 |
| mwhudson | rockstar: ok | 20:45 |
| mwhudson | rockstar: i'm definitely not caffeinated enough for that yet, will let you know :) | 20:46 |
| rockstar | mwhudson, okay. I'm assuming we'll have to be on the phone together for it. | 20:46 |
| thumper | rockstar: are you working today? | 21:07 |
| rockstar | thumper, why wouldn't I be? | 21:07 |
| thumper | rockstar: the email said it was a public holiday | 21:08 |
| rockstar | thumper, what email? | 21:08 |
| thumper | the staffing email | 21:08 |
| rockstar | thumper, ah, well, I guess I should have read that then. :) Yes, I'm indeed working today. | 21:08 |
| * thumper runs to drop off Maia | 21:08 | |
| mwhudson | i guess someone should look at the launchpad failures with bzr.dev at some point | 21:14 |
| rockstar | mwhudson, yeah, I keep wondering that. I get those emails and wonder if maybe one of use should respond about them. | 21:17 |
| mwhudson | :) | 21:20 |
| mwhudson | thumper did an accurate summary of the failures a while ago | 21:21 |
| mwhudson | the part that's really sigh-inducing is the plugin api versioning nonsense | 21:21 |
| thumper | mwhudson: skype? | 21:22 |
| mwhudson | thumper: as usual i'm online | 21:22 |
| mwhudson | thumper: did you try calling? | 21:23 |
| wgrant | Intriguing. Breaking LP OpenID is Low, I see. | 21:51 |
| lifeless | wgrant: ? | 22:22 |
| wgrant | lifeless: The bug I diagnosed yesterday was marked as a duplicate, and the original became Low. | 22:37 |
| thumper | rockstar: I guess we are done then | 22:38 |
| rockstar | thumper, oops. I didn't mean to click the hang up button. | 22:38 |
| thumper | :) | 22:38 |
| thumper | np | 22:38 |
| rockstar | Stupid touchpad sensitivity... | 22:38 |
| lifeless | wgrant: meep :( | 22:44 |
| lifeless | wgrant: bug number? | 22:44 |
| lifeless | found it | 22:47 |
| * mwhudson -> into town, back online in a bit | 23:52 | |
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