[03:31] <bcurtiswx> anyone else getting skipping movies in Karmic?
[03:35] <micahg> skipping?
[03:37] <bcurtiswx> yeah i play a movie.. doesn't matter the player
[03:38] <bcurtiswx> and a little ways into the the video skips (not the volume) and speeds up to catch up.. then stops.. and speeds up to catch up and does this frequently
[03:38] <micahg> I have had this on occassion
[03:38] <bcurtiswx> micahg: know any ways to workaround.. (if there a report yet?)
[03:39] <bcurtiswx> not compiz.. still does it when its off/on
[03:39] <micahg> movie player worked for me when I had the issue
[03:39] <bcurtiswx> yeah movie player does it
[03:39] <bcurtiswx> this is from file on the drive.. not a CD or DVD
[03:40] <micahg> yes, I have the issue now in vlc
[03:40] <micahg> movie player is smooth
[03:40]  * micahg guesses he should file a bug
[03:41] <bcurtiswx> well at least you know you'll get confirmation ;-)
[03:41] <bcurtiswx> what to file it with?
[03:41] <bcurtiswx> not compiz or player specfiic
[03:41] <bcurtiswx> specific*
[03:42] <micahg> i think my file is divx how about you?
[03:42] <bcurtiswx> .avi
[03:42] <micahg> yes, but what codec
[03:42] <bcurtiswx> i dunno
[03:42] <bcurtiswx> way to find out?
[03:43] <micahg> yeah, open in movie player and select movie properties
[03:43] <micahg> brb
[03:43] <bcurtiswx> XVID MPEG-4
[03:44] <dtchen> VLC is probably using the 'default' audio output, which is ALSA, which means it routes through alsa-lib to the pulse plugin and back out to ALSA.
[03:45] <dtchen> you should configure VLC to use the pulse audio output, which eliminates the first routing through alsa-lib.
[03:45] <dtchen> there are numerous bug reports in Launchpad on this symptom
[03:45] <bcurtiswx> im not using VLC.. totem and banshee so far
[03:45] <dtchen> as for non-VLC, i would need to know if you can reproduce it with all of today's updates
[03:45] <dtchen> i'll also need to see pastebinned /var/log/user.log
[03:46] <bcurtiswx> updating
[03:47] <bcurtiswx> hey cool, themuso added the freedesktop sounds for empathy
[03:48] <dtchen> great, 500+ PA bugs to triage on my day off/holiday.
[03:49] <bcurtiswx> dtchen. i lost count on my empathy bugs
[03:49] <dtchen> it's going to be a long night of whiskey and darts.
[03:49] <bcurtiswx> still a prob, brb with pastebin
[03:50] <bcurtiswx> dtchen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/291308/
[03:51] <bcurtiswx> its just video problems tho.. sounds fine
[03:52] <dtchen> ah, just video? neverminde.
[03:52] <dtchen> -e
[03:52] <bcurtiswx> i love all the pulse lines tho... <gets dizzy>
[03:53] <bcurtiswx> i wouldn't know what to report this bug to
[03:53] <micahg> no, my problem was sound
[03:53] <dtchen> yeah, well, it'd be a tiny bit more concise if we carried Fedora's rtkit linux patches
[03:53] <dtchen> micahg: see above regarding VLC's audio output preferences
[03:53] <micahg> yep, checking now
[03:54] <micahg> dtchen: that fixed it
[03:54] <micahg> well
[03:54] <micahg> almost
[03:54] <dtchen> yes, i know (:
[03:54] <bcurtiswx> ok what to file against.. movie video skipping.. but not sound... compiz off and on.. no change... different codecs.. no change, different players, no change
[03:54] <dtchen> you also need to ensure you're running the absolute latest Karmic
[03:55] <micahg> I set it for pulse, but it's still skips every few seconds a few milliseconds
[03:55]  * micahg jsut updated
[03:55] <dtchen> micahg: that's likely our missing rtkit stuff in linux, then
[03:55] <micahg> bcurtiswx: weird
[03:55] <dtchen> micahg: try adding @audio to RT
[03:55] <micahg> we have a similar but different problem
[03:55] <dtchen> micahg: (i.e., in /etc/security/limits.conf)
[03:55] <micahg> dtchen: how?
[03:55] <micahg> ok
[03:56] <bcurtiswx> let me try somethin.. brb
[03:59] <bcurtiswx> darn-it
[03:59] <bcurtiswx> still does it
[06:41] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/449272
[06:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 449272 in compiz "Invest applet drop down leaves a shadow on desktop" [Undecided,New]
[07:20] <mac_v> darthanubis: did you thank yourself in the bug report? ;p
[07:38] <kblin> hi folks
[07:38] <kblin> is there a real reason why bug 444289 is private?
[07:39] <ubot4> kblin: Bug 444289 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/444289 is private
[07:40]  * kblin gives ubot4 a cooke
[07:40] <kblin> cookie, though
[10:43] <diffy> I thing that gpsd didn't recognize anymore my USB gps receiver, maybe a bug in the driver used by gpsd for it ?
[10:43] <diffy> think sorry
[11:03] <jarlen> hey
[11:08] <matti> ;]
[11:20] <maxb> Does anyone know if apport of thunderbird crashes is ever useful? Because usually it just hangs my system and then dies from out of memory
[11:23] <davmor2> maxb: try running ubuntu-bug thunderbird and read the report
[12:10] <tordne> a
[14:19] <kblin> hey folks. I take there's nothing more I can do to help with bug 392828?
[14:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 392828 in ubuntu "security.ubuntu.com not reachable via IPv6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392828
[14:24] <thekorn> kblin: I was told the other day that everything related to the infrastructure should get a ticket at rt.ubuntu.com
[14:24] <thekorn> not sure if this is the case here too
[14:25] <kblin> same login as launchpad?
[14:25] <thekorn> kblin: no, loging and password both 'ubuntu'
[14:25] <thekorn> super secure ;)
[14:26] <joaopinto> anyone else experiencing the non working VTs ?
[14:27] <thekorn> joaopinto: you mean on karmic? - yes
[14:28] <joaopinto> yes, on karmic
[14:28] <davmor2> joaopinto: Yeap but only on certain hw.  Try dropping back into the same vt session
[14:28] <joaopinto> thekorn, are you using fglex ?
[14:28] <joaopinto> fglrx
[14:28] <joaopinto> danstoner, dropping back into the same vt session ?
[14:29] <thekorn> joaopinto: ehm, no it's an nvidia card, but I don't have access to this machine right now
[14:29] <davmor2> joaopinto: yeah go back to c-a-F7 then back to C-A-F2 or whatever
[14:30] <davmor2> seems to work on intel
[14:30] <davmor2> but not ati or nvidia
[14:30] <joaopinto> it doesn't work for me, ATI
[14:31] <joaopinto> any idea if it's being worked ? is there a bug report about it ?
[14:31] <kblin> works for me on an ati, I think
[14:33] <joaopinto> kblin, you get a working VT with CTRL-ALT-F1 ?
[14:34] <kblin> yeah, I think so
[14:34] <kblin> let me get the laptop
[14:35] <joaopinto> kblin, make sure you have all the updates, this started this week, probably related to usplash updates
[14:38] <kblin> joaopinto: yesterday's updates, I think, works like a bliss :)
[14:39] <joaopinto> ok, so it's hw specific
[14:39] <joaopinto> kblin, are you using fglrx ?
[14:41] <kblin> I guess not. jockey-kde comes up empty, and there's no content in my xorg.conf either
[14:41] <kblin> I didn't give it much of a thought
[14:42] <kblin> I recently installed kubuntu 9.04 on the thing. that sucked alot, but I decided to give 9.10 a go before nuking and downgrading
[14:43] <joaopinto> you dont need a xorg.conf to use fglrx, you just need to install it
[15:11] <alex_mayorga> Hello, can anyone please confirm if bug #449556 is a duplicate?
[15:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 449556 in telepathy-butterfly "telepathy-butterfly crashed with TypeError in b64decode() (dup-of: 401028)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/449556
[15:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 401028 in pymsn "telepathy-butterfly crashed with TypeError in b64decode()" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401028
[15:21] <thekorn> alex_mayorga: I think technically it is a duplicate, as it is the same code which is broken in both cases,
[15:22] <thekorn> alex_mayorga: I think it makes sense to add a task to the papyon package in ubuntu to this pymsn bug report
[15:23] <alex_mayorga> thekorn, can you remove "private" from my report, I don't think there's nothing private on it
[15:24] <thekorn> let's see
[15:24] <thekorn> alex_mayorga: your  report is already public
[15:25] <thekorn> the retracer changed it for you
[15:27] <alex_mayorga> OK, thanks
[15:27] <alex_mayorga> is there anything else I can chip-in?
[15:28] <thekorn> I don't think so
[15:32] <alex_mayorga> Can you help me or point me to the right document, I have a problem when switching users and trying to back to the first one the screen goes blank
[15:33] <alex_mayorga> and never recovers
[16:20] <lfaraone> Hey, can somebody else on karmic see if they can reproduce bug 449596 ?
[16:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 449596 in policykit-gnome "polkit-gnome-authorization crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_start_main()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/449596
[16:32] <alex_mayorga> lfaraone, I can try, do you have STR?
[17:05] <rockwlrs> Is there a boilerplate message for when someone posts a nice bug report, but as a follow-up to a completely different bug?
[17:14] <lfaraone> alex_mayorga: yeah, it crashes on start.
[17:14] <lfaraone> alex_mayorga: just run "polkit-gnome-authorization"
[17:18] <deuxpi> There is a bug in gnome-sudoku (#445449) that should probably by marked as Wishlist. Can someone from Bug Control can take a look at this please?
[17:23] <alex_mayorga> lfaraone, it loaded here, no crash... yet
[18:30] <lfaraone> alex_mayorga: odd.
[18:35] <alex_mayorga> lfaraone, would you mind trying to replicate mine? got two user ids?
[18:35] <lfaraone> alex_mayorga: sure./
[18:36] <alex_mayorga> login with A, switch to B and try to come back to A's session, my screen blanks at that point, so beware
[18:36] <rockwlrs> Is there a boilerplate message for when someone posts a nice bug report, but as a follow-up to a completely different bug?
[18:42] <xteejx> Hi guys, I've been away from triaging for a while, and will be back doing bits here and there, but this new Firefox greasemonkey script "firefox-lp-improvements" is confusing, I've installed greasemonkey and the script from synaptic, but I can only see peoples karma and team membership status in the bug reports. Shouldn't I also be able to add tags quickly and insert canned repsonses from Bugs/Repsonses? I can't see any button or any way to do this, or doe
[18:42] <xteejx> sorry for the long message hope someone wouldn't mind reading it and answering :)
[18:44] <bdmurray> check tools -> add-ons -> extenstions -> Launchpad Improvments and the preferences button to ensure buttontags and stockreplies are enabled
[18:46] <xteejx> bdmurray, will do cheers brian :)
[18:47] <xteejx> bdmurray, all the checkboxes are checked, including LP_ButtonTags and LP_StockReplies
[18:48] <bdmurray> try disabling greasemonkey too just in case as the extension doesn't need it
[18:50] <xteejx> bdmurray, nope nothing changed, i can still see karma, etc but no buttons strangely, where do the buttons show up, just in case i'm really stupid and have missed it?
[18:50] <bdmurray> "Add tag" shows right above the regular launchpad "Tags"
[18:51] <bdmurray> response only show up when you exand the modification bit by the bug tasks table
[18:52] <bdmurray> responses and expand ;-)
[18:54] <xteejx> bdmurray, ahhhhh the down arrow by the package name hehe VERY handy ;)
[18:57] <xteejx> is there an apport hook for hal?
[18:58] <bdmurray> xteejx: for which release?
[19:00] <xteejx> its reported against 7.10, so i'm hoping as its hardware detection that its ok in jaunty/karmic but really jaunty i suppose as hal is deprecated in karmic isnt it? or is that wrong?
[19:03] <xteejx> dw i'll be asking the reporter to check it in karmic anyway, so i guess it was a stupid question lol :)
[19:12] <alex_mayorga> xteejx, bug? I'm on karmic over here :)
[19:13] <xteejx> cool alex, i was on karmic but reverted to jaunty after 1 or 2 problems with my wifi
[19:14] <xteejx> alex_mayorga, do you have an LCD/TFT display?
[19:14] <micahg> xteejx: which chipset?
[19:14] <xteejx> ar242x lol :(
[19:14] <alex_mayorga> xteejx, I'm on a laptop, does it help?
[19:14] <micahg> xteejx: have you tried the karmic backports?
[19:15] <micahg> It's usable for me, still not great, but doesn't drop as frequently
[19:15] <micahg> *linux-backports
[19:15] <xteejx> alex_mayorga, it does yes, are you able to confirm bug 67226 for me with the latest firefox and openoffice as i didn't have any problem like that, that i can remember...please :)
[19:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 67226 in openoffice.org "Font is too blurry in firefox interface and pages rendering" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67226
[19:16] <xteejx> micahg, i was using karmic before reverting to jaunty, granted it was *slightly* better but still too unusable
[19:16] <xteejx> jaunty didnt seem quite as bad
[19:18] <micahg> yeah, I hope the linux wireless people can fix it before release
[19:20] <xteejx> dont know why
[19:20] <xteejx> have i lost connection?
[19:21] <xteejx> yay im back damn wifi lol brb
[19:35] <alex_mayorga> xteejx: my FF fonts don't look blurry, IMHO
[19:50] <hakaishi> Hi folks, I have a problem with updates and nvidia drivers. Is there somone I can talk to or may I write about it here?
[19:52] <Pici> hakaishi: If you're looking for support, the best place to ask is #ubuntu (or #ubuntu+1 if you're running Karmic/9.10)
[19:53] <hakaishi> okay, thank you very much^^
[19:57] <joaopinto> hum, several unbootable systems reports today
[20:48] <xteejx> am i here or is my connection shot again?
[20:49] <bdmurray> you are here ;-)
[20:49] <micahg> bdmurray: meeting tomorrow?
[20:49] <xteejx> hehe thanks brian almighty bug master ;)
[20:52] <bdmurray> micahg: hmm, I actually have a conflict at that time :-(
[20:52] <micahg> next week?
[20:52] <micahg> I can';t make it till 16L30 anyways
[20:53] <bdmurray> the 20th would work better for me
[20:54] <micahg> ok
[20:54] <micahg> me too
[20:56] <micahg> bdmurray: did the fileabug thing get reverted?
[20:57] <bdmurray> micahg: nope
[20:57] <micahg> hmmm
[20:57] <micahg> I was able to file a bug at +fileabug on something...
[20:57] <bdmurray> that is because you are in bugcontrol
[20:57] <micahg> or rather +filebug
[20:57] <micahg> ah
[20:57] <micahg> nice
[20:59] <xteejx> brian, do i need to reapply for bug control, mine expired a while back and have been too busy with other stuff to triage, or am I safe to continue as a regular triager and just request changes in Importance?
[21:02] <xteejx> bdmurray, ^^
[21:04] <xteejx> Also can I have bug 75384 changed to Wishlist please? (I think that's correct - and in Jaunty at least there is still no option to change the conversion engine)
[21:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 75384 in xsane "xsane PDF file sizes could be optimized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75384
[21:05] <xteejx> Offtopic: Just for a moment...is there any plans to use Google Wave collaboration tool with bug triaging or working together in the future (just curious), or do we already have something like that?
[21:06] <micahg1> xteejx: done
[21:07] <xteejx> micahg1, good ol' micah :) thank you :D
[21:10] <fale> hi guys :)
[21:11] <fale> would have sense to close all the bugs relatives to dropped versions of ubuntu?
[21:12] <bdmurray> how can you guarantee that they don't apply to the current version without testing the bug?
[21:12] <xteejx> fale, no since we don't know if they're still a problem in a current version unless they are tested
[21:13] <xteejx> beat me to it lol
[21:13] <fale> xteejx: I see
[21:13] <xteejx> i always work back to front clearing out the old cruft anyway, so there is someone clearing out stuff from old versions :)
[21:14] <fale> I see ;)
[21:14] <xteejx> obviously following testing procedures, reproducing, etc.
[21:14] <micahg> While some of us are just trying to keep above water with the new bugs :)
[21:15] <xteejx> the sensible ones ;)
[21:15] <xteejx> my family are all irish, thats my excuse hee
[21:17] <fale> we have a loooooot of open bugs :(
[21:18] <micahg> >60k
[21:18] <micahg> fale: I sort by newest first and try to keep the new ones under control
[21:19] <xteejx> imagine how many bug reports M$ have sitting on top of the shredder.....
[21:19] <micahg> xteejx: does M$ take bug reports?
[21:19] <fale> xteejx: fedora has <5k..
[21:19] <xteejx> micahg, well it's more like apport click and send
[21:19] <micahg> and after they take all the personal information out of it, they trash the bug report?
[21:20] <xteejx> fedora isn't as popular as ubuntu, but i can't account for 55k difference...oh well keeps us busy i guess :)
[21:20] <xteejx> micahg, yeah ... dont get me started on them and HP grr
[21:20] <micahg> xteejx: more people opening bugs
[21:21] <xteejx> micahg, yeah i suppose
[21:21] <micahg> xteejx: we also do crash reports as bugs
[21:21] <xteejx> micahg, thats true...
[21:21] <xteejx> bdmurray, brian did you reinstate my bug control privileges?
[21:23] <bdmurray> xteejx: yes
[21:24] <kklimonda> hey, are there some statistics/discussion about direct link to submission page removed? I'm wondering how is it affecting community.
[21:24] <micahg> bdmurray: are you going to send out an announcement for a meeting next week?
[21:24] <xteejx> bdmurray, i did wonder why the importance came back up lol thankyou :)
[21:24] <xteejx> and sorry for being away so long!
[21:25] <Adri2000> is it possible nowadays for upstreams to get more bug privileges (see private bugs, mostly) for their packages?
[21:25] <bdmurray> micahg: I'm a bit swamped atm
[21:25] <micahg> ok
[21:25] <bdmurray> kklimonda: I have some
[21:26] <xteejx> Adri2000, only bug control can see private bug reports on launchpad
[21:26] <bdmurray> Adri2000: the privileges are not package specific but yes it is possible for upstream developers / triagers to become part of ubuntu bugcontrol
[21:27] <Adri2000> bdmurray: even if they are not at all involved in the rest of ubuntu? if they just want to be able to triage their software's bugs?
[21:28] <Adri2000> if yes, what's the process then?
[21:28] <bdmurray> Adri2000: basically contact jcastro
[21:29] <kklimonda> bdmurray, was the change worth it? Lots of people are confused about it (I see questions about how to submit bugs every day on forums, irc or in the wild). How long till we can decide whenever people are getting used to it? Or maybe you will talk about it on the next meeting and then there is no reason to discuss it atm. I can wait :)
[21:31] <Adri2000> bdmurray: ok, thank you
[21:34] <bdmurray> kklimonda: well, the quantity of bugs reported w/o a package has decreased a fair bit since the change, and the quantity of bugs reported w/ apport has increased.  Additionally bug reporting volume hasn't really been affected.
[21:34] <joaopinto> kklimonda, enforcing minimal info on a bug report is a good thing IMHO, as for how to report bugs, people asking that don't know how to google :)
[21:37] <kklimonda> joaopinto, I agree wholeheartedly with you - I was just wondering how many people are having problems with the new way of reporting bugs. As people who don't have problems aren't talking about it I was looking for some "raw data".
[21:39] <xteejx> The new apport facilities are great, it's definitely helping, I wish there could be a self diagnosis type dialog though which seems to have started to be implemented, i.e. What is the fault   *Hardware     *Software     *Other      *Hardware > *Ubuntu cannot find my hardware   *My hardware crashes my computer   *blah     *blah
[21:41] <bdmurray> an example of this can be found with ubuntu-bug storage
[21:41] <xteejx> joaopinto, in all seriousness though, we want "dumb" users to start using Ubuntu and come from major OS's i.e. Windows, Mac, etc., so I think we need to be careful how we go about it
[21:41] <micahg> is  an option for minimal and complete report from apport possible for every package?
[21:41] <joaopinto> xteejx, we don't want dumb bug reports, regardless of the users type
[21:42] <xteejx> joaopinto, i meant instruction-wise, not incomplete reports ;)
[21:42] <xteejx> "Bug Reporting for Dumbasses" click here > www.google.com
[21:43] <xteejx> I think that should cover everything...
[21:43] <Flare183> xteejx: :/ I doubt it.
[21:44] <xteejx> Flare183: So do I, but it's gotta be worth a try, if not a good laugh :)
[21:56] <xteejx> there are quite a few resume/suspend bugs :O
[22:10] <xteejx> anyone around?
[22:12] <xteejx> bug 119660, I'm stumped, I don't use workstations/servers so I really don't know how to triage this one, there are no set procedures for it afaik, would someone mind having a look or maybe have a go at triaging it please, its really old and appears to have fallen through quite a few releases ... four
[22:12] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 119660 in autofs "Autofs should be reloaded when state of network interface changes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119660
[23:13] <rastersoft> Hi all:
[23:13] <BUGabundo> hey rastersoft
[23:14] <rastersoft> Hi BUGabundo
[23:15] <rastersoft> I want to report a bug for the update-manager, but not sure how to do it. In Ubuntu home page says to use the menu option, but update-manager doesn't have it... :(
[23:15] <BUGabundo> rastersoft: open a console
[23:15] <BUGabundo> and type
[23:16] <BUGabundo> ubuntu-bug update-manager-gtk
[23:16] <rastersoft> fine, thanks. "update-manager-gtk" was the problem.
[23:16] <BUGabundo> sorry?
[23:17] <rastersoft> I wanted to use that, but the problem was that I wasn't sure about the program name (I knew it had something after, in this case "gtk")
[23:17] <rastersoft> ops... seems to not work
[23:19] <rastersoft> Ok, it was "update-manager" only... but before it didn't work
[23:20] <rastersoft> anyway, there's another problem: the bug is with current stable version, and I already upgraded to 9.10 beta1
[23:20] <BUGabundo> so,  state that on the bug
[23:21] <rastersoft> ok, I'll do
[23:21] <rastersoft> Thanks
[23:39] <xteejx> BUGabundo, are you around?
[23:39] <BUGabundo> I'm always around
[23:39] <xteejx> hehe
[23:39] <BUGabundo> specially if I'm rolling down the moutain
[23:40] <BUGabundo> :p
[23:40] <xteejx> would you mind taking a look at a bug for me please?
[23:40] <xteejx> LOL
[23:40] <xteejx> bug 119660 - i'm confused.com :(
[23:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 119660 in autofs "Autofs should be reloaded when state of network interface changes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119660
[23:41]  * BUGabundo looks
[23:41] <xteejx> :D
[23:41] <joaopinto> BUGabundo is an autofs pro
[23:42] <BUGabundo> no I'm not
[23:42] <xteejx> damn :( lol
[23:42] <BUGabundo> a dapper bug?
[23:42] <BUGabundo> u are joking
[23:42] <xteejx> ben hall (benjamin-hall: 0)              wrote             on 2009-07-01:                                                              #10                                                  This is still a problem for the LTS (Hardy). The workstations I'm installing on need to be relatively stable and undergo major updates rarely, so if I can avoid it non LTS installs I will.
[23:43] <xteejx> and 9.04 - its an ongoing problem
[23:43] <BUGabundo> :(
[23:43] <BUGabundo> at least should be set to LOW
[23:43] <BUGabundo> not many users affected by it
[23:43] <BUGabundo> not will it be soon fixed, as it seems
[23:44] <xteejx> huh?
[23:45] <xteejx> i've set Low, but not sure how to triage it, i've never used autofs
[23:45] <xteejx> i'll ask brian tomorrow if he's around :)
[23:47] <BUGabundo> ok
[23:51] <nikolam> I would like to ask a questioin or two about new "wiki way" of filing a bug reports.
[23:52] <nikolam> Before, there was a button on launchpad taht would let users that are logged in on launchpad to put a bug report
[23:52] <nikolam> now user is required to go to the wiki
[23:52] <nikolam> ok. First reaction of the user is: Launchpad bug reporting does not work.
[23:53] <nikolam> So I am suggesting.. If it is intended to FORCE user to read wiki page about bug reporting..
[23:53] <nikolam> then why should we force hinm to read that page every time he wants to file a bug?
[23:54] <nikolam> Shouldn`t those buttons that links to filing a bug on launchpad, be working on launchpad itself?
[23:55] <nikolam> Maybe some additional info about bug reporting / bug reporting types classification should be there on launchpad bug reporing page?
[23:55] <xteejx> apport hook for xscreensaver - is this karmic only?
[23:55] <nikolam> so user/reporter can choose a button that is about its bug report.
[23:55] <nikolam> what do you think?
[23:56] <nikolam> OR launchpad could remember what user have read wiki about bug reporing already
[23:56] <nikolam> joaopinto, what do you think?
[23:57] <joaopinto> nikolam, users don't need to go to launchpad to report bugs, that is you which are used to the previous process
[23:57] <joaopinto> as for the wiki, they just need to read it once, the first time
[23:58] <nikolam> my bug reporting process is> find package on launchpad > click on bugs page for that package > find similar bug reports > file a bug on the page FOR that package
[23:59] <joaopinto> nikolam, so just change it to: ubuntu-bug package-name
[23:59] <hggdh> you can still search LP. Nevertheless, if it is apport filling a bug, there is a good chance apport will find if it is a duplicate or not
[23:59] <nikolam> and if package-name does not exist.. we should have separate button on launchpad for that