[01:15] <dashua> kwwii, I got a majority of the GDM theme to look like the mock up if you're interested?
[01:16] <dashua> Buttons are almost identical
[06:37] <mac_v> kwwii: whats with the pale software center icon :( ... any reason for the small icons being sooooooo pale... could be a little more browner ;)
[09:05] <thorwil> kwwii: may i suggest to set roundness to 0 for style "murrine-treeview-header" = "murrine-default"?
[09:06] <thorwil> kwwii: it makes the listview headers in evolution look less fucked up and more similar to normal listview headers
[09:35] <kwwii> mac_v: hehe, but then it gets lost in the highlight overlay
[09:36] <kwwii> thorwil: I will look into it...we added that on purpose iirc
[09:37] <thorwil> how the * do i change the scrollbar trough color?
[09:39]  * thorwil wishes there was a firebug-like thing for gtkrc
[09:40] <kwwii> thorwil: everything is in the gtkrc
[09:40] <kwwii> which is cryptic and scary ;)
[09:41] <thorwil> kwwii: can't scare me after dealing with drupal an jquery-ui css ;)
[09:41] <thorwil> still cryptic, of course
[09:41] <kwwii> :p
[09:44] <zniavre> bg[NORMAL]      = "#whatever_color"
[09:46] <thorwil> zniavre: that affects the scrollbar button and border, but not the trough
[09:46] <zniavre> http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/217/capturedw.png
[09:46] <zniavre> i misunderstand so ... sorry
[09:48] <zniavre> i believed trough was the small line around the scrollbar
[09:50] <thorwil> no worries
[09:51] <thorwil> i tried all the fg, bg and base states. none of them changed the trough color. makes no sense to me
[09:52] <zniavre> sorry to ask but , what is trough ?
[09:52] <zniavre> :o)
[09:52] <thorwil> zniavre: the scrollbar area minus the button/slider (and steppers)
[09:53] <thorwil> the scrollbar background, basically
[09:53] <zniavre> o ok
[09:56] <thorwil> i found 2 references saying it should be bg[ACTIVE], but doesn't work here
[13:24]  * thorwil shuts down to install new cpu/mobo/ram
[13:39] <tgpraveen> mac_v: can you confirm whether this finally made it in karmic or not https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/humanity-icon-theme/+bug/436462 ?
[13:46] <mac_v> tgpraveen: why dont you convince lool to update it ;)
[13:47] <tgpraveen> hmm so it didn't make it in. ok will convince lool then
[14:18] <mac_v> zniavre: hi... you seem to have a different version of twf from what i have [v0.2.1-2]... what is the version number and how/where do i get it? :)
[14:35] <kwwii> I guess we should set up the packaged humanity stuff in bzr so that we can start to think about the first update
[14:36] <knome> kwwii, do the release first
[14:36] <knome> :P
[14:39] <kwwii> knome: it is too late to change anything but important bugs
[14:39] <kwwii> important=major
[14:41] <knome> :P
[14:41] <knome> bulls...eye ;P
[14:43] <mac_v> kwwii: so no more humanity updates until release? 29th? and maybe a first update after the release ?
[14:44] <knome> luckily we can do changes in xubuntu
[14:44] <mac_v> ;) lucky $#$@$##@
[14:45] <tgpraveen> kwwii: um after the release in the first update can there be new icons/ such fixes?
[14:45] <tgpraveen> wouldn't it be better to do a final release on like 15 or 16
[14:45] <tgpraveen> that's when most people were palnning to do the final updates on other teams iirc
[14:47] <kwwii> tgpraveen: it is not up to me when the release is...I did set the artwork deadlines though and we are *way* past them
[14:47] <knome> bbl ->
[14:48] <kwwii> mac_v: I am not saying that there is 0% chance, but rather that it is very low and we should not plan on it
[14:48] <kwwii> in the end, getting the fixes in are important
[14:48] <kwwii> but someone needs to communicate to me which changes are important, needed in the next release, etc
[14:48] <mac_v> kwwii: no probs for me either way... :) just checking ;)
[14:50] <kwwii> mac_v: I'll get the current package in lp and we can work on getting something together by tonight, if you'll be around
[14:51] <mac_v> kwwii: sure...  hmm... actually a couple of icons will be updated today... i'll upload them asap :)
[14:51] <mac_v> ping me when you are free
[14:52] <kwwii> mac_v: I'm looking into setting it up in lp now...going to take my son to judo in about half and hour but I'll be back after that
[14:53] <mac_v> kwwii: could we do it when you get back? ... that would be nice :)
[14:54] <kwwii> mac_v: yes, definitely ;)
[14:58] <dashua> kwwii, Did you get a chance to look at the HumanLogin update with the mock up buttons?
[14:58] <tgpraveen> um.. so I am somewhat of a noob so have a confusion, you guys are going to make a new updated package with new icons,etc but whether it will be pushed in karmic or not is not decided right?
[14:58] <dashua> I was able to get murrine buttons while keeping the rest of the theme as is.
[15:00] <kwwii> tgpraveen: eventually, it will be make it into karmic, yes
[15:00] <kwwii> tgpraveen: but I am not sure if that can happen before or after release yet
[15:00] <tgpraveen> oh ok. thanks.
[15:01] <tgpraveen> kwwii: changing icons after the final release .has it ever in the past ?
[15:03] <kwwii> tgpraveen: yes, of course ;)
[15:03] <kwwii> we do fix bugs in between releases as well ;)
[15:03] <zniavre> mac_v, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/The+Unofficial+Widget+Factory+%28DEB%29?content=84209
[15:04] <kwwii> dashua: yes, I saw it (have it running on my laptop). waiting for mat to have a look (he isn't online currently)
[15:04] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/27336/screenshot_001_5Ul2lS.png
[15:05] <dashua> kwwii, That is not GDM, but it will look the same
[15:05] <dashua> Ok thx :)
[15:06] <darkmatter> http://blog.mahboy.com/archives/174 *takes for test drive*
[15:10] <kwwii> hrm, how does one set up a new branch under a team...it always add +junk in between
[15:11] <kwwii> ahhh, now I get it
[15:16] <kwwii> ok, the current package version is at code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/humanity/release
[15:22] <mac_v> zniavre: thanks...
[16:32] <kwwii> mac_v: get all your suggested changes in order and we can update the package...preferably per email
[17:04]  * mac_v bbl
[18:07] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[18:08] <LaserJock> kwwii: around?
[18:53] <kwwii> LaserJock: I am heading out, catch me in about an hour
[18:53] <dashua> kwwii, http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/443/capture1t.png
[18:54] <dashua> http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4853/capturerg.png
[18:54] <dashua> Screenies courtesy of znivare
[18:54] <dashua> Base color can be switched back to black if needed, but the mock up was dark.
[18:54] <dashua> light*
[20:06] <LaserJock> kwwii: 1 hr ping :-)
[20:35] <FLOZz> Bye _o/
[20:38] <kwwii> LaserJock: hey
[20:38] <kwwii> sorry, had one more beer than I thought I would :p
[20:40] <kwwii> dashua: mat mentioned that in the final mockups the buttons were no longer light
[20:43] <knome> kwwii, lol, shame on you
[20:49] <kwwii> knome: shame on me that I didn't stay at the bar :p
[20:51] <knome> kwwii, exactly
[20:51] <kwwii> LaserJock: dude, wassup?
[20:58] <kwwii> mac_v: any idea which changes need to go in?
[20:58] <kwwii> note that tomorrow is the very last day that *anything* can be changed in karmic what-so-ever
[21:06] <LaserJock> kwwii: I'm trying to figure out what to do with Edubuntu's gdm setup for Karmic
[21:07] <LaserJock> kwwii: I talked to ogra and he suggested I just ditch all the Edubuntu customizations (since they're all for the "old" gdm) and do a proper job in Lucid
[21:07] <kwwii> LaserJock: for ubuntu, all we have is a normal gtk and metacity theme (along with an extra icon them)
[21:07] <kwwii> LaserJock: right, that would be my suggestion as well
[21:08] <kwwii> if you do nothing, it will get the default gnome theme
[21:08] <kwwii> LaserJock: essentially, gdm themeing is now making a gtkrc and metacity.xml and setting those values in a postinst script for the user gdm
[21:09] <mac_v> kwwii: hei..back... give me a couple of mins
[21:09] <kwwii> gdm is now a normal gnome session
[21:09] <LaserJock> kwwii: how is the background set?
[21:11] <kwwii> LaserJock: per gconf key
[21:11] <kwwii> in the postinst script
[21:11] <LaserJock> k
[21:11] <kwwii> it is all gconf keys
[21:11] <kwwii> not sure which package they put that in though
[21:11] <kwwii> pitti would know more details...I just told him which keys to set and the necessary values of the keys
[21:15] <mac_v> kwwii: hei... U1 wants the panel icons for -idle and -offline , DanRabbit already has them , he'd be adding the shortly
[21:15] <LaserJock> kwwii: k, thanks for the info
[21:15] <mac_v> then gpm-mouse , gpm-keyboard , gpm-phone panel icons are on their way
[21:15]  * ckontros waves
[21:16] <kwwii> LaserJock: no worries, if you need any help just let me know
[21:16] <kwwii> mac_v: ok, send me an email and I will update things..I have to redo my package anyway
[23:37] <mac_v> kwwii: hey.. i'm not sure o the U1 icon... will edit it an send tomorrow
[23:37] <mac_v> of*