=== bjf is now known as bjf-afk [00:31] debfx: you've tested this fix yourself, right? I don't have a kubuntu setup here to test it on, so I can only check that the code looks right [00:34] debfx: is the 'su -' actually needed? acpi-support runs as root, so shouldn't it have access to the dbus session bus anyway? [00:34] (or is this done to isolate the dbus process from root privs?) [00:36] debfx: btw, I don't think I received a notice of this merge proposal, in the future you might want to check that your merge proposal was requesting a review from whoever you're looking to have review it [00:45] * directhex invokes a release manager [00:56] slangasek: yeah I tested it on my kubuntu installation [00:57] the "su" is necessary, it doesn't work otherwise (not sure why though) [00:58] ok [00:58] debfx: uploaded, thanks :) [01:01] slangasek, do i subscribe a release manager then sponsor, or the other way round? [01:01] directhex: either way is ok with me [01:02] (lp: #449970 FYI) [01:04] slangasek: ok, glad I could help :) [01:08] i'm all sleepy now. that's the first hard debugging session in an alien API i've had for a very long time [01:09] debfx: what's this fix? [01:11] Riddell: powerdevil detection in acpi-support http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/acpi-support/trunk/revision/163 [01:12] oh cool [01:16] doko_: Mind if I poke you ~ ftlk1.1 ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fltk1.1 has it still FTBFS and the mismatch is blocking me from updating ia32-libs [01:23] YokoZar is the poor sod who looks after the most unmaintainable package ever? [01:25] directhex: mostly because I'm the biggest (ab) user of it [01:25] directhex: but yes it seems that way === freeflyi2g is now known as freeflying === mnepton is now known as mneptok === jra is now known as Guest76453 === Guest76453 is now known as SecGeek [02:03] Does http://packages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-laptop-mode still serve a purpose? It hasn't been updated for ages and there is the generic laptop-mode-tools package available. Time for removal? Where to request? [02:14] Laibsch, I think the answers are "no, yes, file a bug" respectively [02:14] OK [02:14] Thanks [02:15] Will do [02:15] you're welcome [02:28] bug 450004 [02:28] Launchpad bug 450004 in ubuntu-laptop-mode "time for removal of ubuntu-laptop-mode package?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/450004 === zooko` is now known as zooko === dmb_ is now known as dmb === Whoopie_ is now known as Whoopie [05:28] any reason libasound-plugins is not built with jack output? [05:28] [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm.c:2171:(snd_pcm_open_conf) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_jack.so [05:28] spstarr: Because jack is not in main. [05:29] license problem? [05:29] No [05:29] does debian build it? [05:29] If there was a license problem, it wouldn't be in the archive [05:29] spstarr: I believe so. [05:29] archive/universe [05:29] so then why is ubuntu turning it off(?) [05:30] spstarr: Do you understand the difference between Main and Universe? [05:31] not really [05:31] I just want what debian provides, not isolating this from that [05:31] The most relevant bit here is that Main needs to be self-contained complete, so packages in Main cannot build-depend on packages in Universe. [05:31] spstarr: If you want what debian provides, use Debian. [05:31] so then move jack to Main? [05:32] Part of the original plan for Ubuntu was that it would focus on an subset of the Debian archive and try to make that really shine and provide security support for it. [05:32] So every time you move stuff to main, there has to be a good rationale as it ups was has to be officially supported by Canonical. [05:32] There was some discussion about that this cycle, but it didn't get done. [05:33] i'll just get the src deb and turn it on myself. [05:33] Since TheMuso is an Ubuntu Studio dev, you're probably talking to one of the people that wants that more than most. [05:33] my audio card has no PCM capture (DRM likely) and I cant record any output from it [05:33] so thus I need workarounds that Ubuntu is turning off ;( [05:34] ScottK: This cycle has seen a push to get jack into main to solve just this problem, as it would allow firewire audio interface users to use their cards with alsa, if in a somewhat round-about way. But there are other reasons as well. [05:34] However, it didn't happen due to lack of time by those involves [05:34] s/involves/involved/ [05:34] Right. So maybe for Lucid. [05:35] I am thinking that archive reorganisation may help resolve this problem/ [05:35] ScottK: Right. [05:36] im not happy at all my new laptop conveniently disables PCM capture [05:36] DRM shit [05:36] spstarr: I don't think its to do with the laptop, its to do with the Linux driver, depending on what audio hardware you have. [05:36] I'd say you're too quick to jump to conclusions! [05:37] jdong: from what I read, there is no capture on these cards at all [05:37] these cards being? [05:38] │ Card: HDA Intel │ [05:38] │ Chip: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa) [05:38] ah ok [05:38] Conexant isn't eactly FLOSS friendly at ALL [05:38] with that old linuxant shit [05:38] thanks Lenovo! [05:39] how was linuxant Conexant's fault per se? [05:39] its not [05:39] the whole issue with a software modem is that the modem is just physically two wires [05:39] but this company 'Conexant' is making things difficult for me now in Audio [05:39] nevermind models [05:39] linuxant was a third party attempt to reimplement the modem part in software :) [05:40] uhm, linuxant licensed the IP didn't they? [05:41] lifeless: ah yes that may have been; at least licensed some part of the IP [05:41] considering the DIL tone was the same as the original Conexant drivers probably more or less the entire modem software :) [05:47] ooh i got it working.. almost [05:47] until the audio just hangs :( === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [06:50] hah I got it working with jack [06:50] evil [06:51] I can record audio from jackd via jack_capture (obscure tool) [07:15] Good morning [07:16] mdke: thanks [07:16] tkamppeter_: hih [07:16] erm, "hi" [07:22] pitti: it didn't work to remove the fdupes script - something else has run a similar script anyway in the package build - http://paste.ubuntu.com/292122/ [07:22] pitti: I don't know where that has come from though, it isn't in debian/rules [07:24] ah, it's in /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk [07:27] perhaps someone can tell me how to exclude that script? [07:29] ... wait, do you just want to set CDBS_NO_GNOME_HELP_SYMLINKING=1? [07:29] geofft: yes [07:31] mdke: right, we do that by default now, but these aren't meant to interfere; hm [07:31] mdke: seems like the symlinking to help-langpacks/ is buggy then :-( [07:32] pitti: can't I just disable it by setting CDBS_NO_GNOME_HELP_SYMLINKING? [07:32] mdke: you can [07:32] that should work, no? [07:32] the help-langpack thing isn't interfering because this is a local build without that [07:32] it works around the problem, yes [07:32] I suppose all packages with Gnome documentation should be setting CDBS_NO_GNOME_HELP_SYMLINKING, not just ubuntu-docs [07:33] otherwise the same bug will appear in those packages, maybe [07:37] mdke: I should probably just disable it for now, since with stripping them out we don't need to symlink them any more [07:37] oh, wait, we do [07:38] they only point to the C version, which is already installed with the package [07:38] mdke: would you mind reporting a bug against cdbs with the particular failure you see, and assign it to me? [07:38] mdke: I'm interested in what actually goes wrong [07:39] good morning [07:40] * mneptok waves to various .de peoples [07:40] pitti: ok. should I disable this in ubuntu-docs and gnome-user-docs anyway? if so, could you show me how to do it? :p [07:41] mdke: if it wreaks havoc, just disable it, yes [07:41] export CDBS_NO_GNOME_HELP_SYMLINKING=1 [07:41] mdke: sorry, without the "export" [07:42] just somewhere at the top of debian/rules? [07:42] yes [07:42] ok, thanks [07:43] pitti: I think we can use the same bug and just open a cdbs task [07:48] pitti: ok, so it's bug 441401 - thanks for the help [07:48] Launchpad bug 441401 in ubuntu-docs "Symlink not working with Karmic translations" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/441401 [07:51] mdke: thanks === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [08:08] * mvo_ hugs doko__ for his super fast python fix === porthose|afk is now known as porthose === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [08:24] pitti, hi === doko__ is now known as doko [09:05] mvo_: do you have an idea about bug #448140? I do see this with other packages as well. [09:05] Launchpad bug 448140 in python2.6 "package python2.6-minimal 2.6.4~rc1-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: error writing to '': Input/output error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/448140 [09:06] dholbach, you should stop using pbuilder for every build ;-) [09:12] doko: looking [09:12] mvo_: no info in the log, but the subject "error writing to '': Input/output error" repeats [09:15] doko: odd, nothing in the log - I will followup and move away from python (that is most certainly not a python issue) [09:17] doko: there seems to be a lot of those reports [09:17] hey glatzor! [09:17] morning mvo_ ! [09:18] mvo_: when do these start? [09:20] doko: the earliest so far is 2009-09-28, but LP is not that great for bug searches, I look further [09:21] doko: my initial guess is that its packagekit releated, but I'm not sure yet [09:22] hm, no. there is one report about the software-center [09:24] mvo_, reports that affect me too? [09:32] glatzor: I don't think so, but I'm not sure yet, its inconclusive at this point === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [09:52] Hello, can some sponsor this: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=6920 ? It's FFe request has been approved (LP 440153) [09:52] Launchpad bug 440153 in sabily "FFe: Add an xsplash theme for Sabily" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/440153 [10:10] dholbach, will you sponsor that gdm update? [10:10] seb128: it didn't build for me - does it build for you? [10:12] dholbach, I didn't try but there is no change in the build system so no reason for it to start breaking [10:12] dholbach, I would rather blame your pbuilder ;-) [10:12] let me try [10:14] tkamppeter: hm, seems your host name->ip change now causes build failures :-( (http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33580906/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.cups_1.4.1-5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz) [10:16] dholbach, build fine there, I will upload [10:17] is there any known libssl issue? [10:17] I got some gnome builds failing on -lssl not being there [10:17] ie some .pc or .la or something listing but not having the corresponding depends [10:24] seb128: thanks [10:33] shouldn't ubuntu-xplash-artwork be Arch:all? [10:34] dholbach, it should [10:35] kenvandine: ^ :) [10:41] thanks ttx [10:41] directhex: np [10:42] ttx, quite embarrassing issue - but it was news to upstream (and is now my first proper upstream patch for mono, svn r143994) [10:54] just wondering why I have the "vitruvian man" on my notification-area, while there's no accessibility features enabled? [10:57] cjwatson, the _all packages, am i correct in understanding that they are actually constructed on all architecture builds, but they are only taken from i386? [10:58] apw: They aren't even built on any arch but i386 [10:58] It's the difference between dpkg-buildpackage -B and -b [10:59] so the buildd's do -B ? [10:59] Pretty sure they do, yes [11:01] maxb, thanks ... makes much more sense here now ... [11:03] apw: yes, what maxb said. i386 buildds do -b and everything else does -B. [11:03] now getting _all out of my armel builds makes sense [11:03] * apw mutters as he wanders off to get a bigger brain fitted [11:34] seb128: could you please have a look at my pidgin debdiff at bug #346840 [11:34] Launchpad bug 346840 in pidgin "Buddy List taskbar icon shows on all virtual desktops" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/346840 [11:34] it fixes that bug and provides a workaround for wrongly sized tray icon on kde [11:36] yay [11:37] debfx, what is the rational for the scrollbar value change? [11:39] debfx, the kde hack looks weird too, what about fixing kde rather than adding weird hacks to pidgin? [11:39] debfx, I'm not sure about any of those 3 changes... [11:40] seb128: the preferences dialog got bigger, it needs around 700px [11:42] debfx, the purpose of the patch is to add scrollbars to fit on screen though no? [11:42] that value should match netbook resolution [11:43] seb128: afaik kde says the system tray specification is broken regarding to icon size and I'm not sure if it affects other desktop environments as well, but kde always uses 22x22 tray icons so the patch doesn't have negative effects on kde [11:43] debfx, could you upstream that workaround just to get their opinion? [11:44] I hope the problems are gone when pidgin switches from eggtrayicon to gtkstatusicon [11:44] there is no such hack in other softwares, ie rhythmbox [11:44] I think adding one there is not the way to go [11:45] are they using eggtrayicon? [11:45] no [11:45] <\sh> grmpf...Karmic you have a problem [11:45] why is pidgin still using that? [11:45] the correct fix would be to port pidgin to modern apis ther [11:45] because they don't want to depend on higher gtk versions [11:45] there [11:46] they want to raise the gtk requirement in pidgin 2.7 [11:46] well so if that works in gtkstatusicon there is a bug in pidgin [11:46] and the way to go is to fix it [11:49] true, but I doubt anyone will fix eggtrayicon [11:49] especially not in time for karmic [11:50] I'm not qualified to judge that hack since I've no clue about how kde is buggy there [11:50] and why it doesn't handle correctly icons [11:50] so I will not upload that hack [11:50] I will wait on ted's comment about the focus issue though [11:51] thanks for you work on that [11:52] regarding the scrollbars: don't we want the preference window to display correctly on 7XX resolutions? [11:52] seb128: it would be polite to assume that KDE isn't buggy since every other app works fine [11:52] I've to go for lunch bbl [11:52] Riddell, and pidgin works fine in any other de too [11:54] debfx, we want but we want those to be displayed correctly on netbooks too [11:54] seb128: so there's no reason to think which side is at fault and it's probably as debfx says the spec which is buggy and incomplete [11:54] the change will make it not fit on smaller screen no? [11:55] Riddell, whatever I don't care, I'm just not going to upload that workaround since it seems wrong, if the code is buddy fix it, that works with other applications now [11:55] really have to go for lunch [11:55] bbl [12:03] pitti, i think we have found the FAT slow mount issue, and i've pushed some test kernels (linked in the bug) ... if we want to get it in before kernel freeze we need to get it tested pronto [12:04] apw: my hero! [12:04] I'm happy to test them [12:04] wicked [12:04] it was a long old day finding that one [12:14] <\sh> if someone could do me a favour, please review debdiff from bug #401982 and push it to the buildds? Thx :) [12:14] Launchpad bug 401982 in quilt "quilt_0.46-7 still same error on intrepid" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401982 [12:15] apw: so what was the issue? [12:15] readahead requests were not merging in the elevator at all, leading to sychronous 512 byte reads of the FAT [12:16] <\sh> brb lunch [12:20] apw: at the VFS layer? [12:28] * pitti hugs magic Andy [12:28] apw: it works perfectly, thanks [12:30] pitti, wicked thanks ... [12:31] anyone know if we are expecting fsck to trigger usplash like it used to atm? [12:33] apw: I think we resorted to always starting usplash onw [12:33] s/onw/now/ [12:33] but in lucid, it's supposed to [12:34] yeah i had usplash, the new sexy logo [12:34] but then it went into 20 mounts without fsck, fsck [12:34] and usplash said nothing then timed out and showed it to me behind [12:34] but no sexy progress bar, no hit esc option [12:35] pitti, ^^ [12:35] i presume that that is a bug then [12:35] right, looks like [12:35] I'll have a look at it, noted on my TODO list [12:36] pitti, thanks [12:36] seb128: for netbooks nothing will change, if the screen resolution is 1024x600 it doesn't matter if I check <=600 or <=700 [12:36] debfx, I've to read what the change do then, would be nice to give explanation in the bug next time [12:43] debfx, ok, the 700 change makes sense after looking at the dialog geometry in karmic, sorry about the too quick replies but I've a zillion things on my list and not always time to look at what other people wanted to do and why if there is no explanation in bugs [12:44] debfx, I will wait for ted to reply before sponsorting that though just to know if the other change is worth uploading too [12:44] debfx, I'm not sure we should change the behaviour now just before karmic, ted added that to workaround other issues [12:49] apw: you're not the first one to report that ... [12:49] cjwatson, ok ... so i'll wait for a fix :) [12:50] seb128: I know but that particular calls I removed don't really help the pidgin window to appear in the front [12:52] debfx, ted probably added it for a reason though, it might workaround some wm behaviours or something [12:56] seb128: to me that patch seems like a "try everything that might help" approach, but you're right we should wait for a response from ted [12:56] debfx, it's sort of that yes since standard calls were not doing what is expected [13:02] pitti: ping [13:26] zul: pong [13:27] pitti: i been working on the m2crypto testsuite failure and its still not building properly [13:27] i tried updating it my ppa and it still suffers from the same problem but it builds fine locally [13:27] zul: I guess it needs network of some sort? [13:28] pitti: it looks like it but it says its connecting to a localhost [13:28] Hi all is it possible that all icons and folders, after the last update in karmic, have the emblem applied? [13:29] pitti: i was thinking of opening up a bug in the upstream bug tracker and trying to get it fixed for lucid [13:29] zul: yeah, makes sense [13:29] zul: I think for karmic you should just || true the test suite, so that the results are in teh build logs, but it doesn't fail the build [13:30] pitti: ok i can do that ill let you know when I uploaded it [13:30] apw: I like your definition of "obvious fix" :-) [13:35] pitti, i think the fix is obviously correct even to those not looking at the rest of the code, now finding the issue ... [13:36] apw: I was just kidding; I didn't understand a word of your bug explanation :) [13:36] :) [13:39] <\sh> re [13:48] I seem to be totally unable to track down bug #420307 -- mysterious segfaults in computer-janitor for some people. My best guess it's a python/pygtk/threading problem, but I can't see where, and I can't reproduce either. Any ideas? [13:48] Launchpad bug 420307 in computer-janitor "computer-janitor-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in gdk_window_set_geometry_hints()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/420307 [13:48] lool: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/humanity-icon-theme/+bug/436462 can you please upload the changes for this [13:49] Launchpad bug 436462 in humanity-icon-theme "Have different icons for usb hardisks and pendrives" [Undecided,Confirmed] [13:49] it would really increase usability/visibility and is something [13:49] liw, get a valgrind log for the crash? [13:49] that many people have asked for on different bugs and the change is already on upstream and has very little chance of breaking anything [13:50] seb128, I'll ask bug submitters for that... how would they do that? [13:50] liw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valgrind [13:51] liw, for python software you need to run valgrind python binary [13:51] not valgrind binary directly I think [13:52] cjwatson, it looks like you looked into sponsoring bug 430220 at some point in the past. Can you (or Keybuk) look at it again? I'd like to get this in before release. It prevents delays in logging messages due to buffering (and has some cleanup as well) [13:52] Launchpad bug 430220 in rsyslog "[karmic] Upstart fixups" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430220 [13:52] seb128, thanks, let's see what happens === marjomercado is now known as marjo [13:56] ok [13:56] so the build failures in rhythmbox and totem are doko's fault [13:57] /usr/lib/python2.6/config/Makefile: LOCALMODLIBS= -lssl -lcrypto -lssl -lcrypto -L$(exec_prefix)/lib -lz [13:57] but python2.6 doesn't install those libs [13:58] doko, ^ do you know about that? is that something which changes recently? [13:58] tgpraveen: I was told it's not release critical and will only consider it if I update h-i-t for another reason; it took me hours to understand + review the last icon changes I had to upload, so I'd prefer avoiding that happening again [13:59] seb128: yes, that was a bug fix for python2.6. It's a mistake to link extensions with LOCALMODLIBS, just remove it [13:59] doko, it makes several packages ftbfs out of the blue, will we do an archive rebuild test to spot those now? [13:59] doko, otherwise I would argue to wait until karmic+1 for the fix since it breaks things which were working [13:59] 0/wg 166 [13:59] (sorry [14:00] Does someone know how to fix a non-booting system like this onw http://people.canonical.com/~lool/IMG_2345.JPG? [14:00] One error is binfmt misc being missing in the dove kernel, not sure if that's the reason for the failure [14:03] doko, ? [14:03] seb128: that was the fix for #445540 [14:03] #445530 [14:04] bug #445540 [14:05] Bug 445540 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/445540 is private [14:06] bug #445530 [14:06] Launchpad bug 445530 in python2.6 "dh_pysupport -a fails in private/movemodules with python2.6" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445530 [14:07] doko, any reason you couldn't add the lib as python-dev depends? [14:08] seb128: I'll look at it tonight, but it would just hide the problem. [14:09] doko, what problem? rhythmbox and totem and some other things fail to build right now... [14:09] would be nice to get that fixed quickly [14:09] those software have not changed and building them works fine on other distros or karmic before your change [14:10] seb128: the correct fix is not to link with LOCALMODLIBS; I'll look at a workaround later today [14:10] doko, thanks [14:11] doko, could be but it's late now in the cycle to break all software doing that [14:12] seb128: no, it was a fix for another bug which obviously has side effects [14:13] doko, ok, thanks for looking into it === sommer_ is now known as sommer === robbiew_ is now known as robbiew === spaetz2 is now known as spaetz === agateau_ is now known as agateau [15:10] Keybuk: hey, I get http://people.canonical.com/~lool/IMG_2345.JPG with a mountall from a couple of days ago; there's notably a binfmt misc missing error (reported already) but I'm not sure what's failing the boot exactly nor how to recover [15:10] Keybuk: I can remount / rw and mount /boot but if I ^D, only the network comes up and not gdm etc. [15:10] did you update mountall today? [15:10] I cant find that /forcefsck thing on any fs [15:10] Keybuk: No, I'd like to... [15:11] right, that one's fixed [15:11] Keybuk: It's the one from one or two days ago [15:11] Keybuk: What shall I do to resume boot? [15:12] I have a /, a /boot, swap, all with UUID in fstab; I only have proc in fstab apart of that IIRC [15:14] Keybuk: Do I have to manually dpkg -i mountall from an USB stick or smth? [15:15] kirkland, hi - I noticed that that kvm got replaced by qemu-kvm. could you please add a transitional package to ensure that it upgrades smoothly? currently its considered obsolete and removed after a upgrade (apt is unfortunately not very clever when it comes to understand that it really should install qemu-kvm instead) [15:16] kirkland, I'm happy to report a bug and/or do that myself (should be quick and easy) [15:16] asac: yes I need tht review for libaugeas-ruby [15:17] mvo__: hi! [15:17] mvo__: thanks for adding some upgrade logic to update-manager to handle the mysql upgrade [15:17] mvo__: IIUC a plain dist-upgrade won't work in karmic [15:18] mvo__: however a do-release-upgrade will correclty update mysql-server from 5.0 to 5.1 [15:19] mathiaz, correct - sorry that I haven't found a good way for the plain dist-upgrade [15:20] mathiaz, we should just release note it, it should be simple enough to fix for people faimilar with apt-get [15:20] mvo__: that's fine. We can document it in the release notes as well [15:20] * mvo__ nods [15:20] mvo__: something related to the mysql upgrade [15:20] mvo__: 5.0 supports cluster, while 5.1 doesn't [15:21] mvo__: so there is a check in the preinst script - if cluster is enabled the package upgrade fails [15:21] mvo__: I was wondering if we could some logic to update manager [15:22] mvo__: if there is a cluster configured, remove the mysql-server package (but leave mysql-server-5.0 [15:22] ) [15:22] mathiaz, yes, we should [15:22] mathiaz, how hard/reliable is it to detect ? [15:23] mvo__: reliable - it's a grep in some configuration files [15:23] mvo__: the logic is already in the preinst script [15:23] mvo__: right now the package fails with an error message [15:23] mathiaz, ok cool - I can add that to the upgrade, thats pretty easy. could you just add a bug and target for 9.10 ? I will do it today [15:24] mvo__: ok - I'll file a bug [15:24] mathiaz, thanks [15:25] so how do I get something wider than 1 pixel borders on my windows again? grabbing the little beggars with the thumbpad is kinda challenging [15:32] i ma getting Invalid execution envioroment at grub [15:32] i ma getting Invalid execution envioroment at grub [15:35] Gp: I don't think you are; I think you're more likely to be getting the message "invalid: environment block" [15:35] Gp: see bug 439784 [15:35] Launchpad bug 439784 in grub2 "invalid: environment block" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439784 [15:37] Einen wunderschönen Tag zusammen [15:41] Well, this is embarrassing. <-- yay for firefox. :-( [15:42] ? [15:42] amusingly, leaving all the tabs selected and choosing 'restore' gets me a working firefox [15:42] wolfe: firefox can't restore the session [15:43] :) oh how I know that too well [15:43] I wonder if it has anything to do with needing passwords to loginto stuff [15:43] I've disabled much of the bloat which causes firefox to mess up [15:43] wolfe: execpt for the part where the session restores just fine when you say "oh, try anyway, kthx" [15:43] yeah... isn't that nice? [15:44] it crashed on me twice yesterday when I had all the default bloat enabled, and FF actually apologized asking which session to restore [15:44] Hi guys in the house [15:44] maybe a procrastination avoidance feature? :P [15:44] heh [15:49] I do hate it when coders think their program should apologize. just wrong. [15:50] lamont: I suppose it's better than having them insult you [15:50] LaserJock: pretty much the same, actually [15:50] it's more like an insult with a smile [15:51] lamont, my most sincere and humble apologies for having written a program that apologized, please let me assure in the strongest possible way that this will not be a unique instance [15:51] liw: meh [15:51] :) [15:52] window panel bar is totally weird, too. [15:52] so if anyone asks, no, you many not like the results of running a jaunty kernel with your karmic system [15:52] does anybody tried to install karmic on a laptop? [15:53] scoop21: aside from loosing support for winxppro sp>=2 in kvm, it's been working pretty OK for me [15:53] some _might_ see that as a feature [15:53] lamont: do you tried to plugging ac/battery? [15:54] liw: long ago I came to realize that parts of the kernel have gender. Then I realized that gender was based on who owned that component in the OS I was working on a the time. [15:54] scoop21: suspend/resume even works much of the time - big improvement over the last time I tried it. [15:54] and yeah, AC and battery op both happy [15:54] mvo: hi [15:55] haven't tried hibernaet yet [15:55] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=439784 not opening [15:55] Mozilla bug 439784 in Networking: Cookies "Chrome XMLHttpRequest does not send/set cookies if third-party cookie's are blocked" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] [15:55] mvo: would you mind sending me a quick debdiff for the transitional package? [15:55] mvo: i'm working on a couple of other high priority things at the moment :-/ [15:55] mvo: including adding a critical patch to qemu-kvm [15:55] kirkland: sure, I can also do the upload [15:55] kirkland: oh, ok [15:56] mvo: i'd like to fix both with the same upload [15:56] kirkland: yeah, I file a bug with patch then - or is there a vcs I should use? [15:56] lamont: mhh, tried to boot with both ac and battery and than plugged ac out and so? [15:56] mvo: bug with patch is best for now [15:56] scoop21, works like a charme here [15:57] kirkland: thanks [15:57] scoop21: booted with and without AC, plugged and unplugged, even suspended.. all with good happiness. [15:57] mvo: thank you :-) [15:57] OTOH, networkmangler has decided that eth0 is non-existant [15:57] brb [16:02] lamont: which label do you have? [16:03] scoop21: label? [16:03] the laptop is a dell inspiron 1520 with an ubuntu label. :-) [16:04] gory details of the machine in bug 445456 [16:04] lamont: haha, yes i meant the producer [16:04] Launchpad bug 445456 in linux "kvm hangs booting windows XP Pro SP2 or later, since at least 2.6.28-15" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/445456 === ArneGoet1e is now known as ArneGoetje [16:12] mvo, there's at least two instances of openoffice packages being corrupted (uno and ure packages)... update-manager does check the checksums, so that's worrying [16:13] lamont: you hasn't that bug too? -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pm-utils/+bug/432838 [16:13] liw: it is - my theory is currently that it arrives ok from the net and gets corrupted when writing out to disk - i have test code that tries to download files with invalid checksums and that errors out [16:13] Launchpad bug 432838 in pm-utils "laptop goes standby after gnome login on battery" [Undecided,New] [16:13]