[03:36] <pibe86> hello guys
[19:24] <plars> njpatel: ping
[19:25] <njpatel> plars: hey
[19:25] <plars> njpatel: was wondering if you had seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbook-launcher/+bug/445829
[19:26] <plars> njpatel: not anything earth-shattering, but it is ugly
[19:26] <njpatel> plars: yeah I've seen that, it's on my list. Seems like a calculation error in the iconview
[19:26] <plars> njpatel: moreso, I was interested in what you though about whether those were actually two separate problems - the text at the bottom of games category, vs some of the other issues shown in screenshots there
[19:27] <njpatel> plars: other issues?
[19:27] <plars> the other issue seems a bit more like what I've seen in bug 435805
[19:28] <njpatel> plars: right, they both stem from the same issue
[19:28] <plars> ok
[19:29] <njpatel> I'm not sure what's going on, the code hasn't changed in the iconview, but this effect started a couple of weeks back :/
[19:47] <JamieBennett> njpatel: Sorry to jump in but I also filed bug 448109 and bug 447886 against UNR
[19:53] <JamieBennett> plars: have you seen the above bugs in your testing too?
[19:54] <plars> JamieBennett: will take a look
[20:01] <plars> JamieBennett: for the keyring one, this is after installing it and rebooting?
[20:01] <JamieBennett> plars: Yes. Install with no net connection which doesn't set up gnome-keyring properly it seems.
[20:02] <plars> JamieBennett: ah, I'll have to try that
[20:02] <ogra> right
[20:02] <ogra> thats an ancient known bug
[20:02] <plars> JamieBennett: although... today's image isn't looking to good
[20:02] <ogra> you need to use your login PW for the keyring and it will never bother you again
[20:02] <plars> sounds vaguely familiar from jaunty, but for some reason I thought it had been fixed
[20:02] <ogra> (or no PW at all)
[20:02] <JamieBennett> ogra: but the dialogue box in the background isn't though :)
[20:02] <JamieBennett> (because of it)
[20:02] <ogra> definately not :)
[20:03] <JamieBennett> ogra: Bothers me ever time from then on
[20:03] <JamieBennett> every
[20:03] <ogra> but that might be a WM issue (or a flag the app doesnt set for the WM)
[20:03] <ogra> (being in the bg)
[20:04] <JamieBennett> Every reboot I need to enter the password on UNR
[20:04] <ogra> did you use the same PW as your login one ? 
[20:04] <ogra> (or no PW at all for the keyring)
[20:06] <JamieBennett> same password
[20:07] <plars> JamieBennett: is this similar to what you are seeing there? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/415320
[20:09] <JamieBennett> plars: no. What happens is you boot to the desktop and no dialogue appears although network-manager is asking you for a password. A small padlock icon is at the top right of the screen which when pressed brings up the dialogue box.
[20:09] <JamieBennett> soory top left
[20:09] <JamieBennett> sorry :)
[20:10] <plars> JamieBennett: oh, so it is network manager or gnome-keyring asking for the password?
[20:10] <plars> in the bug you had said gnome keyring
[20:10] <JamieBennett> network-manager instigates it but let me see the exact cause again, one moment
[20:10] <plars> and this one sounds very similar, with gnome-keyring not coming to the forground when prompting for authentication
[20:11] <ogra> yeah
[20:11] <ogra> it very likely starts before the launcher comes up ... then the launcher covers it at the point where the WM starts
[20:11] <ogra> sounds like arace
[20:11] <ogra> *a race
[20:12] <JamieBennett> NetworkManager Applet wants access to the default keyring but its locked message (Unlock Keyring)
[20:12] <ogra> you could move the gnome-keyring-daemon binary to gnome-keyring-daemon.bak and write a wrapper script that hands over the opts and sleeps for 10 secs before 
[20:13] <ogra> and see if it then comes up at the front
[20:16] <JamieBennett> 448109 is a bit of a bummer unless I'm missing something. I managed to delete the 'user session menu applet' from the top right hand corner and now I have to either sudo shutdown or press the power button to shut down :(
[20:17] <plars> JamieBennett: on the other one, I suspect it's just really stinking hard to put anything there, due to little/no space between the applets
[20:17] <plars> JamieBennett: it's actually possible to do this though
[20:17] <ogra> well, the applets should have no remove option :)
[20:17] <plars> JamieBennett: although, it is perhaps not as straightforward as it should be
[20:18] <ogra> and i'm pretty sure i submitted a patch to lock the panel for hardy
[20:18] <plars> JamieBennett: for instance, you can unlock the indicator applet and move it over
[20:18] <JamieBennett> plars: right clicking on the space doesn't bring up a 'add to panel' option unless its in a 1x1 pixel somewhere hiding.
[20:18] <ogra> so you cant remove stuff
[20:18] <ogra> not sure where that went though
[20:18] <plars> JamieBennett: that will open up a blank area where you can click and add applets
[20:18] <plars> ogra: protecting the users from themselves are we? :)
[20:19] <ogra> plars, well, that was actually added for classmate 
[20:19] <JamieBennett> plars: I have a huge area that is blank but still no add to panel (again unless its in a very specific place)
[20:19] <ogra> which ran on 800x480 back then
[20:19] <ogra> and i had the same prob :)
[20:19] <plars> JamieBennett: it's working just fine for me, hmm
[20:19] <ogra> oh, no, wait that was for *moving* 
[20:20] <ogra> you couldnt move the panel around with the option set
[20:20] <JamieBennett> plars: where are you clicking? i.e. remove the session applet (the one with your name) and try to add it back
[20:22] <plars> JamieBennett: I'm not removing anything
[20:22] <plars> JamieBennett: I'm moving the indicator applet over to the left
[20:22] <JamieBennett> plars: No, remove from panel then try to add back
[20:24] <plars> JamieBennett: indicator-applet-session?
[20:24] <JamieBennett> plars: Yes (the one with the user name)
[20:24] <plars> JamieBennett: ok, I just added it back
[20:24] <JamieBennett> plars: :(
[20:25] <plars> JamieBennett: using the method I just described
[20:26] <JamieBennett> plars: OK, I see it. You have to move applet to make space and only then can you add any new applets in :(
[20:26] <plars> JamieBennett: right, it's as you described - if there is a space to click, it's insanely small
[20:26] <plars> you likely won't get to it without shifting things and making room
[20:27] <JamieBennett> The 1px by 1px that is reserved for the weather applet? can be right clicked on if your good :)
[20:27] <JamieBennett> plars: Also for 447886 maybe that the box starts minimized for some reason. A right click on the padlock icon that it produces offers a un-minimize option.