[03:36] hello guys === doko__ is now known as doko === playya__ is now known as playya === matt_c is now known as erics_mom === erics_mom is now known as matt_c === matt_c is now known as raccoon === raccoon is now known as matt_c [19:24] njpatel: ping [19:25] plars: hey [19:25] njpatel: was wondering if you had seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netbook-launcher/+bug/445829 [19:25] Launchpad bug 445829 in netbook-launcher "Text on "Games" menu it outside of window" [Medium,Triaged] [19:26] njpatel: not anything earth-shattering, but it is ugly [19:26] plars: yeah I've seen that, it's on my list. Seems like a calculation error in the iconview [19:26] njpatel: moreso, I was interested in what you though about whether those were actually two separate problems - the text at the bottom of games category, vs some of the other issues shown in screenshots there [19:27] plars: other issues? [19:27] the other issue seems a bit more like what I've seen in bug 435805 [19:27] Launchpad bug 435805 in netbook-remix-launcher "Icons overlap for categories with >= 9 rows" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/435805 [19:28] plars: right, they both stem from the same issue [19:28] ok [19:29] I'm not sure what's going on, the code hasn't changed in the iconview, but this effect started a couple of weeks back :/ [19:47] njpatel: Sorry to jump in but I also filed bug 448109 and bug 447886 against UNR [19:47] Launchpad bug 448109 in netbook-launcher "Cannot add to panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/448109 [19:47] Launchpad bug 447886 in netbook-launcher "On startup Gnome Keyring asks for password in the background" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/447886 [19:53] plars: have you seen the above bugs in your testing too? [19:54] JamieBennett: will take a look [20:01] JamieBennett: for the keyring one, this is after installing it and rebooting? [20:01] plars: Yes. Install with no net connection which doesn't set up gnome-keyring properly it seems. [20:02] JamieBennett: ah, I'll have to try that [20:02] right [20:02] thats an ancient known bug [20:02] JamieBennett: although... today's image isn't looking to good [20:02] you need to use your login PW for the keyring and it will never bother you again [20:02] sounds vaguely familiar from jaunty, but for some reason I thought it had been fixed [20:02] (or no PW at all) [20:02] ogra: but the dialogue box in the background isn't though :) [20:02] (because of it) [20:02] definately not :) [20:03] ogra: Bothers me ever time from then on [20:03] every [20:03] but that might be a WM issue (or a flag the app doesnt set for the WM) [20:03] (being in the bg) [20:04] Every reboot I need to enter the password on UNR [20:04] did you use the same PW as your login one ? [20:04] (or no PW at all for the keyring) [20:06] same password [20:07] JamieBennett: is this similar to what you are seeing there? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/415320 [20:08] Launchpad bug 415320 in gnome-keyring "unlock keyring "steals" focus (no cursor in overlying window)" [Low,New] [20:09] plars: no. What happens is you boot to the desktop and no dialogue appears although network-manager is asking you for a password. A small padlock icon is at the top right of the screen which when pressed brings up the dialogue box. [20:09] soory top left [20:09] sorry :) [20:10] JamieBennett: oh, so it is network manager or gnome-keyring asking for the password? [20:10] in the bug you had said gnome keyring [20:10] network-manager instigates it but let me see the exact cause again, one moment [20:10] and this one sounds very similar, with gnome-keyring not coming to the forground when prompting for authentication [20:11] yeah [20:11] it very likely starts before the launcher comes up ... then the launcher covers it at the point where the WM starts [20:11] sounds like arace [20:11] *a race [20:12] NetworkManager Applet wants access to the default keyring but its locked message (Unlock Keyring) [20:12] you could move the gnome-keyring-daemon binary to gnome-keyring-daemon.bak and write a wrapper script that hands over the opts and sleeps for 10 secs before [20:13] and see if it then comes up at the front [20:16] 448109 is a bit of a bummer unless I'm missing something. I managed to delete the 'user session menu applet' from the top right hand corner and now I have to either sudo shutdown or press the power button to shut down :( [20:17] JamieBennett: on the other one, I suspect it's just really stinking hard to put anything there, due to little/no space between the applets [20:17] JamieBennett: it's actually possible to do this though [20:17] well, the applets should have no remove option :) [20:17] JamieBennett: although, it is perhaps not as straightforward as it should be [20:18] and i'm pretty sure i submitted a patch to lock the panel for hardy [20:18] JamieBennett: for instance, you can unlock the indicator applet and move it over [20:18] plars: right clicking on the space doesn't bring up a 'add to panel' option unless its in a 1x1 pixel somewhere hiding. [20:18] so you cant remove stuff [20:18] not sure where that went though [20:18] JamieBennett: that will open up a blank area where you can click and add applets [20:18] ogra: protecting the users from themselves are we? :) [20:19] plars, well, that was actually added for classmate [20:19] plars: I have a huge area that is blank but still no add to panel (again unless its in a very specific place) [20:19] which ran on 800x480 back then [20:19] and i had the same prob :) [20:19] JamieBennett: it's working just fine for me, hmm [20:19] oh, no, wait that was for *moving* [20:20] you couldnt move the panel around with the option set [20:20] plars: where are you clicking? i.e. remove the session applet (the one with your name) and try to add it back [20:22] JamieBennett: I'm not removing anything [20:22] JamieBennett: I'm moving the indicator applet over to the left [20:22] plars: No, remove from panel then try to add back [20:24] JamieBennett: indicator-applet-session? [20:24] plars: Yes (the one with the user name) [20:24] JamieBennett: ok, I just added it back [20:24] plars: :( [20:25] JamieBennett: using the method I just described [20:26] plars: OK, I see it. You have to move applet to make space and only then can you add any new applets in :( [20:26] JamieBennett: right, it's as you described - if there is a space to click, it's insanely small [20:26] you likely won't get to it without shifting things and making room [20:27] The 1px by 1px that is reserved for the weather applet? can be right clicked on if your good :) [20:27] plars: Also for 447886 maybe that the box starts minimized for some reason. A right click on the padlock icon that it produces offers a un-minimize option.