[00:14] <fta> asac, http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/browse_thread/thread/1b4db315741e2c03
[00:26] <ripps> Man, I'm loving chromium. Fastest meanist browser in linux
[00:30] <fta> ripps, yep, i just need a real adblocker to be really happy
[00:30] <ripps> fta: chromeextensions.org has 2
[00:31] <fta> not an ad-hider or tinyproxy
[00:31] <ripps> I'm using adblocker+, it seems to work fine for me
[00:31] <fta> i want something that prevents ads from being loaded
[00:31] <fta> something similar to adblock+ from firefox
[00:32] <BUGabundo> fta: why not use that app that blocks on ip based ?
[00:32] <BUGabundo> can't recall its name
[00:32] <fta> i want it inside the browser, not a system wide proxy with ACLs
[00:32] <ripps> BUGabundo: you mean moblock?
[00:33] <BUGabundo> no idea
[00:33] <BUGabundo> can't recall its name
[00:54] <fta> moblock is mostly for p2p
[01:02] <LLStarks> asac.
[01:02] <LLStarks> sup.
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[03:25] <LLStarks> micahg, is asac doing anything about the autocomplete disaster karmic is gonna ship with?
[03:25] <LLStarks> fff
[03:25] <LLStarks> he's gone
[10:07] <asac> LLStarks: not sure what you mean
[11:33] <asac> !test
[11:34] <ubottu> yes, I'm alive.
[14:31] <fta> hi
[14:31] <fta> asac, we should talk about that ppa reorg
[14:38] <asac> fta: yes.
[14:38] <asac> what would you suggest?
[14:38] <fta> not sure
[14:39] <fta> common request is to have tb3 alone, or ff3.5 out
[14:39] <asac> mozillateam is still an issue for you?
[14:39] <asac> ok so what we need are ppas for:
[14:40] <asac> PRODUCT-milestones (firefox tbird, etc.)
[14:40] <asac> PRODUCT-daily (firefox, tbird, etc.)
[14:40] <asac> under some team
[14:42] <fta> asac, so ff 3.[567] and theit xuls in the same ppa?
[14:42] <fta> their
[14:55] <asac> fta: so basically i think yes.
[14:55] <asac> there is one caveat though
[14:55] <asac> milestone != backport
[14:55] <fta> ?
[14:56] <asac> backports would involve things like the ffox 3.5 default transition
[14:56] <asac> (which caused our daily hardy users to suffer a bit)
[14:56] <asac> while milestones would just be either .head for unreleaseed stuff
[14:56] <asac> bull-shit
[14:56] <asac> still i guess you get the difference ;)
[14:57] <asac> not sure if we want both or just one
[14:57] <fta> hm
[14:58] <asac> i think we should do a "backports" archive
[14:58] <asac> to get started
[14:58] <asac> thats probably what most want anyway
[14:58] <asac> and less maintenance for us as everything comes just from .head
[14:58] <asac> then based on feedback we can do or not do a pure milestone release
[14:58] <asac> err ppa
[14:59] <asac> in anycase i think that all versions should be in same archive
[14:59] <asac> usually we hav different package names
[14:59] <asac> so its an explicit opt-in
[14:59] <asac> except for the default transitions of course
[14:59] <asac> where users would automatically go to next amjor version
[15:01] <fta> so some people will still have to pin 3.5 because they want 3.6 or 3.7 but not 3.5 as it's in the archives
[15:01] <asac> fta: yes, but we cannot make different archives also because of the transition thing
[15:02] <asac> i dont think we can address all issues by archive layout
[15:02] <asac> maybe we should rather work on a simple UI where users can select what they want to do and then they get the right repos + pinning
[15:06] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[15:06] <eagles0513875> .j ubuntu+1
[15:06] <eagles0513875> whoops
[15:43] <fta> asac, and what about the location of those ppa? do we keep the same team or move to web-tech or what?
[15:44] <fta> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=22307#c19
[15:45] <fta> asac, btw, i still have no b-m icon in firefox :(
[16:04] <asac> fta: team depends on you ... we moved away from mozillateam becaues you didnt felt uncomfortable
[16:04] <asac> i think mozillateam is right place
[16:04] <asac> otherwise we can use webtech
[16:11] <asac> fta: yes renaming is right (ffmpeg chromium)
[17:08] <fta> does apparmor produce logs by default?
[17:08] <fta> i'm fighting with bind on an server running jaunty
[17:12] <micahg> fta: doesn't it log to syslog?
[17:13] <fta> no idea
[17:21] <asac> fta: it logs to dmesg/syslog
[17:24] <LLStarks> asac. we've been playing tag for a few days but that autocomplete bug is still an issue even after that custom xulrunner build.
[17:28] <asac> LLStarks: did I ask whether you tried to disable all extensions?
[17:28] <LLStarks> didn't matter
[17:29] <LLStarks> happens on a fresh box
[17:31] <asac> LLStarks: fresh == fresh profile ... without even any history etc.? orimported data?
[17:31] <LLStarks> alan pater's comments are also important
[17:31] <LLStarks> yes
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[18:55] <fta> asac, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33599773/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-amd64.xulrunner-1.9.3_1.9.3~a1~hg20091013r33797%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~jaunty_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[18:56] <fta> res/broken-image.png is gone
[20:07] <jdstrand> fta: apparmor logs via the kernel. that means it will be in /var/log/kern.log or if you have auditd installed, /var/log/audit./audit.log
[20:07] <jdstrand> err... /var/log/audit/audit.log
[20:08] <fta> jdstrand, no /var/log/audit/ here
[20:08] <jdstrand> fta: ok, then look in /var/log/kern.log
[20:09] <fta> oh, "if you have auditd installed", ok
[20:11] <fta> ok, nothing from bind9
[20:11] <fta> in my desktop, i see a bunch of rejects for evince
[20:11] <fta> dekstopS
[20:12] <fta> Oct 13 02:19:52 ix kernel: [214018.210462] type=1503 audit(1255389113.807:32): operation="open" pid=24330 parent=1 profile="/usr/bin/evince" requested_mask="::r" denied_mask="::r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0 name="/etc/orbitrc"
[20:12] <fta> Oct 12 15:57:03 cube kernel: [16802.663093] type=1503 audit(1254932007.737:35): operation="exec" pid=2221 parent=2218 profile="/usr/bin/evince" requested_mask="::x" denied_mask="::x" fsuid=1000 ouid=0 name="/bin/dash"
[20:13] <jdstrand> fta: this is on karmic?
[20:13] <fta> yes
[20:14] <jdstrand> fta: /bin/dash? that is odd. what pdf caused that?
[20:14] <jdstrand> fta: is that all of the denied messages?
[20:15] <fta> mostly, i have a lot for the /etc/orbitrc ::r
[20:15] <jdstrand> fta: do you have a firefox plugin/extension that manipulates/uses PDFs in same way?
[20:15] <fta> no
[20:16] <fta> i usually open pdf from my desktop or from emails (evolution or mutt)
[20:16] <fta> (desktop meant nautilus)
[20:16] <jdstrand> fta: can you tell me what package provides your /etc/orbitrc? eg 'ls -l /etc/orbitrc && dpkg -S /etc/orbitrc'
[20:17] <fta> liborbit0
[20:18] <fta> no rdepends, probably a leftover
[20:18] <jdstrand> that isn't in karmic...
[20:18] <jdstrand> fta: I've made a note to silence that message
[20:19] <fta> rc  liborbit0                                0.5.17-11.1ubuntu4                       Libraries for ORBit - a CORBA ORB
[20:19] <fta> removed but i still have the confs
[20:19] <jdstrand> fta: for now, feel free to purge to get rid of the log spam
[20:20] <jdstrand> yeah, that is gnome 1 stuff afaics
[20:21] <fta> yep, i also use corba in my own dev, to talk to some remote agents
[20:21] <fta> but that's liborbit2
[20:22]  * jdstrand nods
[20:36] <micahg> asac: TB3 RC1 Nov 3
[21:24] <fta> [reed], do you have/know a bug id for pages being shown/opened blank until they are refreshed? it's annoying
[21:25] <fta> asac, ^^, same question for the missing icons
[21:41] <[reed]> fta: yes, I cc'd you
[21:42] <[reed]> mozilla bug 520422
[21:42] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 520422 in IPC "Enable about:memory on Linux" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=520422
[21:42] <[reed]> no
[21:42] <[reed]> that's not it
[21:42]  * [reed] looks
[21:44] <av`> kenvandine, do you follow gwibber?
[21:44] <[reed]> huh
[21:44] <[reed]> maybe I didn't cc you
[21:44] <[reed]> hmm
[21:45] <av`> kenvandine, if you need any upload before the freeze, please ping me
[21:45] <av`> kenvandine, freeze is on 15 of october, so one day left to get in the best of gwibber
[21:45] <[reed]> mozilla bug 509278
[21:45] <[reed]> there it is
[21:45] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 509278 in Widget: Gtk "Intermittent rendering issues (on reflow?)" [Major,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509278
[21:46] <jcastro> av`: are there any pending fixes for gwibber that need to go in?
[21:46] <av`> jcastro, dunno, that's why I asked
[21:46] <av`> I saw a bug the other day
[21:46] <av`> with urgency high
[21:46] <jcastro> oh I'm sure there are plenty of those. :p
[21:47] <fta> i'm not aware of any, at least ken didn't asked me to sponsor anything, or i missed it
[21:47] <jcastro> I think we're fine tbh, it's stopped crashing and sucking for me
[21:47] <jcastro> what about you guys?
[21:48] <av`> fta, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/351708
[21:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 351708 in gwibber "[pkg depends issue?] Unable to add accounts using Gwibber in fresh Kubuntu Jaunty installation" [High,Triaged]
[21:48] <av`> jcastro, ^^
[21:48] <av`> this is bad
[21:48] <av`> and should be fixed
[21:48] <fta> jcastro, except for no non-ugly gwibber theme when using darkroom, it's fine
[21:49] <av`> fta, jcastro: this should be checked
[21:49] <av`> if the bug is still there, and someone gonna do a fresh installation of ubuntu it won't work
[21:49] <jcastro> ok I just did a fresh install of my laptop like yesterday and it worked
[21:49] <jcastro> I dunno about kubuntu though
[21:50] <av`> jcastro, kubuntu does not have all needed GNOME depends
[21:50] <av`> that's why it might fail
[21:50] <av`> and gwibber is actually a GNOME app
[21:50] <av`> but someone can use it under kubuntu as well, so this should be verified
[21:51] <jcastro> ok I will look into it
[21:51] <jcastro> the reporter is in my loco so I can ask him to confirm. :D
[21:51] <av`> great :)
[21:52] <av`> jcastro, give a apt-cache show gwibber
[21:52] <av`> it will show you no gnome-keyring depends
[21:53] <av`> jcastro, and http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24522308/gwibber.error.txt is about a keyring error
[21:53] <jcastro> yeah I know it's not in there
[21:54] <jcastro> but the version he's reporting is like 2 major releases ago
[21:54] <jcastro> need to find out what's going on in karmic ubuntu
[21:54] <av`> python-gnome2 takes in python-keyring
[21:54] <av`> but that's not enough
[21:56] <av`> eagles0513875, around?
[22:15] <ripps> The latest build of chromium doesn't use gtk colors with unselected tabs anymore
[22:46] <fta> dtchen, each time i hit esc in vim, or do something that triggers a system sound, i now hear a loud glitch (i use visible_bell, not audible_bell, and no sound theme)