[00:00] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: Desktop Edition
[00:00] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: Open a terminal and run "sudo fsck -f"
[00:00] <ryguy> Has anyone found a way to make a bootable windows xp usb drive from within linux using an xp iso?
[00:00] <Ozzy> WanHouse: I like the site - and i've got to go now. I'm gonna need to sort out this ubuntu thing, so i'll ask sometime in #ubuntu+1
[00:01] <MTecknology> ryguy: you just asked this
[00:01] <abraham> hola
[00:01] <Ozzy> WanHouse: See you around
[00:01] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: same thing fsck 1.41.3 (Oct 12 2008)
[00:01] <ryguy> yeah i know, I dont have it on cd tho
[00:01] <MTecknology> ryguy: it's against the Windows EULA
[00:01] <WanHouse> Ozzy: I coded what you have enjoyed when growing up perhaps (Scooters, peteron, electric), ATV's, Good laughs. Sooner or later i want you to take change and you know it.
[00:01] <abraham> from spain
[00:01] <ryguy> -_-
[00:01] <ryguy> to install it from usb?
[00:01] <epaphus> ramFS-fu .. hmm ok thanks thedude42
[00:01] <thedude42> epaphus, i would think that the challenge would be to hide the ramfs portion from the kernel
[00:02] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: Ok, try "sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1"
[00:02] <epaphus> thedude42, do you think modifying those parameters on the custom live cd is a big deal?
[00:02] <thedude42> epaphus, you may be able to just copy the contents of the CD to a file system in a ramfs mount, and then do a chroot
[00:02] <WanHouse> Ozzy: I will not persuade you. Its something you must like for yourself.
[00:02] <martin_> thedude24 i installed ubuntu recently and i changed my username, but all my files are in the home directory of my old username
[00:03] <rus_> SUP! I've having ubuntu server trouble here...
[00:03] <thedude42> epaphus, yeah, the way I am thinking about it would change a lot of stuff, but I have zero experience doing that kind of thing so it may be a lot easier than I am thinking
[00:03] <maco> martin_: you can modify your new user to use that directory
[00:03] <Ozzy> WanHouse: Man i have no doubt you know a hell of alot. But honestly, what are you persuading me of?
[00:03] <rus_> ima super n00b in the works
[00:03] <Ozzy> WanHouse: You aren't making any sense
[00:03] <martin_> maco how?
[00:03] <gr> how r u all
[00:03] <epaphus> thedude42, all of that could be placed in a bootable script right?  ok got it.
[00:03] <rus_> peace, prosperity and love for everyone
[00:03] <martin_> maco: i prefer to move my files to my main home directory
[00:03] <WanHouse> Ozzy: Its not political anymore. You shall do as you wish.
[00:04] <WanHouse> IE: Nothings
[00:04] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5013d1d3
[00:04] <maco> martin_: ah you want to mvoe the files not just use teh old directory?
[00:04] <rus_> heres my prob for anyone kind enough: I've got a poweredge300 with 2 HDDs
[00:04] <Jordan_U> Ozzy: I think WanHouse might be a bot
[00:04] <maco> martin_: or just rename the directory to match your new name?
[00:04] <rus_> I've installed ubuntu server on it and all is fine
[00:04] <rus_> but i wanna use one HDD for the website and the other one for all the intranet info
[00:04] <Ozzy> Jordan_U: I agree
[00:04] <WanHouse> Ozzy: I will have a 50 people party next weekend though :) / Its X-rated perhaps
[00:04] <WanHouse> :)
[00:04] <martin_> maco: i just want to take the files from the old home directory to my current and new home directory
[00:05] <Ozzy> Jordan_U; haha
[00:05] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: That's not good, you may have lost your Ubuntu install
[00:05] <Ozzy> Bye all.
[00:05] <rus_> could anyone help me set up the extra HDD i've go in my server?
[00:05] <rus_> it says it's not partitined
[00:06] <rus_> supposedly i did.. but i rlly didnt
[00:06] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" again?
[00:06] <WanHouse> Ozzy: Ask who is a security police tool ?
[00:06] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: what? Did that happen when I click check on that NTFS partition...
[00:06] <WanHouse> Ozzy: Im much worse then that lame arse though :)
[00:07] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: If you only clicked check no, but if you clicked check and then write then yes
[00:07] <jonday> is there an "even viewer" equivalent in ubuntu to check system errors
[00:07] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U; well it gave me an error so.... http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d6bf09ad3
[00:08] <monthana> Iam trying to debug and fix a dsdt-file, iam using the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036051, my output after running iasl -tc dsdt.dsl is in http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/291934/ and the file dsdt.dsl is in http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/291936/ , can anyone help me remove these messages?
[00:08] <titooo> buenas
[00:08] <WanHouse> Jordan_U: Good morning. Im with Verfassungsshuts, Did you wich to join ?
[00:10] <gOcOOl> how do I find out what "configure" options was used when installing a certain package via apt?
[00:10] <martin_> maco any help?
[00:11] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: so is there any fatal problem?
[00:11] <maco> martin_: cp -R /home/oldname/* /home/newname/
[00:11] <maco> martin_: or "mv" instead of "cp -R"
[00:11] <gOcOOl> installing the aforementioned package via apt works just fine but trying to manually install it (configure; make; make install) seems to fail, hence the question
[00:11] <maco> martin_: then "sudo chown -R newname:newname /home/newname/*"
[00:11] <WanHouse> Jordan_U: Yes ?
[00:11] <martin_> maco but i am viewing the contents of my that home folder, i only see 2 files
[00:12] <martin_> maco: access-your-private data.desktop and readme.txt
[00:12] <martin_> both i cannot open
[00:12] <maco> martin_: OH its encrypted?
[00:12] <thedude42> gOcOOl: man apt-cache and look for the option that shows you the full package information (I know it's in there, I haven't looked for it in a while)
[00:12] <martin_> imaco: i believe so
[00:12] <WanHouse> Schuts awaits
[00:12] <KB1JWQ> !ot | WanHouse
[00:12] <thedude42> gOcOOl: alternatively you can download the deb file itself and look at it with dpkg
[00:12] <gOcOOl> thedude42: ok, checking ...
[00:13] <n8tuser> gOcOOl->  also look at /var/lib/dpkg/available
[00:13] <maco> martin_: try "su olduser -" in a terminal to force that directory to be decrypted?
[00:13] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: are you there.....?
[00:13] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: Yes
[00:13] <martin_> maco: user does not exist
[00:14] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: So then what happened....?
[00:14] <martin_> im trying with the ecryptfs but its not letting me setup
[00:14] <maco> martin_: how did you rename this user?
[00:14] <WanHouse> KB1JWQ: You want to tone down, not because youre fat, but because oyu wish to be nice.
[00:14] <maco> martin_: did you create a new user and remove the old one?
[00:14] <martin_> i reinstalled the OS
[00:14] <maco> martin_: oh
[00:14] <martin_> mac: i reinstalled the os and created a different user name
[00:15] <n8tuser> martin--> you want to encrypt just one specific dir or an entire partition?
[00:15] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: it seemed that Linux OS is back but usually there's this LBA extended
[00:15] <maco> martin_: so your encryption key from the old user is....? where?
[00:15] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: I think that trying to "restore" your windows partition corrupted your linux partition, I may be wrong and you may just need the right partition table, but I don't think you can get your linux install back
[00:15] <maco> n8tuser: he's trying to recover data in an encrypted home directory without having that user
[00:15] <martin_> maco: i dont know, i only see these 2 files and i was told to use the ecrypfts and thats not working so far
[00:15] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: You can likely recover any important files though
[00:16] <maco> martin_: dude, i think you deleted your encryption key
[00:16] <Purpley1> You *must* have the OpenSceneGraph support library installed on your system
[00:16] <Purpley1> to build the FGFS simulator!
[00:16] <Purpley1>  | where is this?
[00:16] <n8tuser> maco that would nearly impossible without the  password or passprhase
[00:16] <Wast3d2009> !irc
[00:16] <maco> n8tuser: exactly
[00:16] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: I don't have any files that important so....
[00:17] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: There may be a chance of recovery by someone more knowlageable about this than me, but re-installing is probably easiest unfortunately :(
[00:18] <Purpley1> You *must* have the OpenSceneGraph support library installed on your system
[00:18] <Purpley1> to build the FGFS simulator!
[00:18] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: So then I just have to install either an Linux or an window?
[00:18] <Purpley1> where do i get that
[00:18] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: I mean that I could re-install Linux using this LIveCD?
[00:19] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: Yes, though I'd go with 9.04
[00:19] <gOcOOl> thedude42, n8tuser: couldn't find it in the apt-cache man page neither does "/var/lib/dpkg/available" seem to have the info i'm looking for
[00:19] <legend2440> Purpley1: try   libopenscenegraph-dev
[00:19] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: For future reference you can install Ubuntu without overwriting windows
[00:19] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: 9.04? Why don't I just upgrade it when I install the LiveCd?
[00:20] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: Oh so then I could just install windows first then this LiveCD?
[00:20] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: It's usually a bit more to download and takes longer, that's all
[00:20] <thedude42> g0c00l: yeah I found the parts for listing the files and dependencies..... I think you will have to grab the deb package itself and look at it directly with dpkg
[00:20] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: Yes, and be carefull to choose to resize windows rather than erasing the drive.
[00:21] <gOcOOl> thedude42: any ideas how i could use dpkg to look at the info from the deb file?
[00:21] <thedude42> g0c00l: thing is that you're probably not going to find a Makefile in there, just the binary and any post/pre install scripts
[00:21] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: Or, since you are installing windows yourself partition it to only use the first half of the drive and leave the rest as unpartitioned space
[00:22] <thedude42> g0c00l: if you want to see how it was compiled, you may be able to find a source package for the particular program you're trying to look at
[00:22] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: okay, but I'm still a novice on the partition stuff...
[00:23] <DIL> hey all, the links in my email(Evolution) wont launch error = could not open operation not supported.  any help appreciated
[00:23] <thedude42> g0c00l: you use the --unpack to see the files that comprise the package, so any configuration paost/pre installation will be in there
[00:23] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: so now, I'll take my windows CD-R and insert to my Cd drive and let it do the work....
[00:23] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: You can ask any questions here while you are installing to be sure you don't acidentily overwrite windows
[00:24] <Purpley1> I finally installed my program but now how do i start it?
[00:24] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U" wait you're telling me that I could just leave this open while I install my windows?
[00:25] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: OR do you mean AFTER installing windows
[00:25] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: I'
[00:25] <bobo123> what does the variable $? stands for?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: Well you can't use IRC from the windows installer, but Ubuntu supports resizing windows so just going with the default options when installing windows is fine
[00:25] <Purpley1> I finally installed my program but now how do i start it?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: After
[00:26] <n8tuser> bobo123-> in bash thats the status of the last command executed
[00:26] <Jordan_U> bobo123: The exit code of the last command run
[00:26] <Purpley1> please help
[00:26] <bobo123> Jordan_U: so 1 means fail, right?
[00:26] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: it said that by default, ubuntu will erase all existing softwares...
[00:26] <thedude42> bobo123, not necessarily
[00:26] <legend2440> Purpley1: you did   sudo make install  ?
[00:27] <Jordan_U> bobo123: Yes
[00:27] <Purpley1> woah
[00:27] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: So I should be looking for an phase such as "alongside windows"?
[00:27] <Purpley1> i got a ton of error messages
[00:27] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: Yes
[00:27] <maestrojed> What ports do I need to open to run an FTP server?
[00:28] <Purpley1> http://pastebin.com/m71309de6
[00:28] <thedude42> maestrojed, kinda depends, but port 21 is the default
[00:28] <Malcolm_06> get more power out of ubuntu
[00:28] <Malcolm_06> how do i get more power out of ubuntu
[00:28] <bobo123> has someone installed nctuns, on ubuntu?
[00:28] <Malcolm_06> sory
[00:28] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: alright cool, I mean when I insert the CD it doesn't automatically load the CD......
[00:29] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: Can you rephrase your last comment?
[00:29] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: it take a while for me to figure it out but I just press the F12 button I'm sure it'll work for any CD right?
[00:29] <thedude42> maestrojed, in PORT mode, one end needs 21 open, the other end needs 20 open, but in PASV mode (the most common) you need to have 21 open for incoming requests, and then a range of other ports open to handle the actual data transfers
[00:29] <maestrojed> thedude42: I figured it depends. I am going to do what I hope is a standard install. For some reason I thought you needed more then one port open for ftp
[00:29] <Sarajevo> ?DCC SEND "haha" yousuck
[00:29] <SeaPhor> does anyone know why there's no man entry for the bg command? or where i can find the options/usage for the bg command?
[00:29] <thedude42> maestrojed, your thoughts were correct ;)
[00:30] <Jimmio> Is there a specific room for ubuntu development? I'm trying to make a program that replaces the gnome desktop background with a 3D environment... What should I be looking to do?
[00:30] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: Yes, if F12 allowed you to boot from the Ubuntu LiveCD it will work with any other bootable CD
[00:30] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: what I mean is that when I insert a ISO CD or a installation CD, it doesn't load automatically, I need to press F12 after the manufacturer logo appear....
[00:30] <Purpley1> http://pastebin.com/m71309de6
[00:30] <Purpley1> Help
[00:31] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: okay cool thanks for the help :)
[00:31] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: np :)
[00:31] <thedude42> maestrojed, basically if you want the most generic ftp server up, you let it serve on port 21, and then you decide what high number port range you want to serve the PASV connections on... it's totally transparent to the client
[00:31] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: see ya and wish me luck...
[00:31] <legend2440> Purpley1: instead of compiling it yourself just download the deb files and install   http://www.unitedfreeworld.com/ubuntu_debian_fgfs_installation.html
[00:31] <maestrojed> thedude42: So I am opening ports now while I am at my office so that I can work on this tonight (actually installing the server). Do you recommend a ftp server? My setup should be pretty basic. I always fail at getting the user and file permissions to play nice with SMB.
[00:32] <maestrojed> thedude42: great thx
[00:32] <dfwlinuxguy> vsftpd is a very good ftp server
[00:32] <|pez|> If I try apt-getting something that depends on other packages as well, can I make the installcommand automatically get those packages for me?
[00:32] <durt> Jimmio, there is #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu, but they are more for packaging and OS developement. But somebody might lend an ear.
[00:32] <dfwlinuxguy> vsftp=very secure ftp deamon
[00:32] <Jordan_U> |pez|: It does that by default
[00:33] <|pez|> Jordan_U: Oh, thanks. lol  :D
[00:33] <Purpley1> legend
[00:33] <Jordan_U> |pez|: np :)
[00:33] <Purpley1> i just wasted an hour of work
[00:33] <Purpley1> :(
[00:33]  * Purpley1 cries
[00:33] <crypt-0> since when is FTP "very secure"
[00:33] <crypt-0> SSH is its replacement
[00:33] <LjL> SSH is hardly FTP's replacement...
[00:33] <crypt-0> unless your just looking to use it on your LAN
[00:33] <Jordan_U> Purpley1: What does that program do? There might be an alternative
[00:33] <legend2440> Purpley1: is the program called Flightgear?
[00:34] <dfwlinuxguy> you can use ssl...it was written with security as the top priority against exploits
[00:34] <Purpley1> mhm
[00:34] <Purpley1> Jordan
[00:34] <crypt-0> FTP w/ SSL is an improvment
[00:34] <Purpley1> The other alternative is the terminal
[00:34] <Purpley1> I dont want to use the terminal because of all the options and variables
[00:34] <Purpley1> FGRUN is the GPU
[00:35] <dfwlinuxguy> all non SSL ftp connections are plain text and vulnerable
[00:35] <dfwlinuxguy> but we are talking about different things
[00:35] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: hi, looks like my linux operating system is fine.....
[00:36] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: I guess I was wrong :)
[00:36] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: There doesn't seem to have nothing wrong with the partition table.....most likely....
[00:36] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: phew.. glads thats over....
[00:36] <lil> wow
[00:36] <Purpley1> !karmic
[00:36] <lil> backtrack4
[00:36] <Purpley1> argh
[00:36] <Purpley1> i cant wait
[00:36] <Purpley1> Im so excited for the new distro
[00:36] <LinuX2half> Jordan_U: but now how do I install windows?
[00:37] <Purpley1> did anyone test the beta?
[00:37] <lil> server back up admin/pass
[00:37] <legend2440> Purpley1: is the program your trying to install called Flightgear?
[00:37] <lil> damzz i need a shell
[00:37] <SKAP> Purpley1 i did
[00:37] <youngblood> I'm trying to play dvds on ubuntu 9.04. I have libdvdread4 installed. I entered this command to in libdvdcss2 - sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/ install-css.sh. When i start a dvd i get the message that libdvdcss is not installed. Also when I search for it by using synaptic, it does not show up. How do i install libdvdcss2?
[00:37] <lil> hmmmmmmmm
[00:37] <SeaPhor> dfwlinuxguy, i have had a vsftp server up and running for nearly 2 years now, i nmap it often and have a few others test it out for me,, I've had NO problems and am very happy with it
[00:38] <slide> After an upgrade my system is left with lots of packages installed from the previous version, is there an easy way to remove them all?
[00:38] <felixsulla> So, I added medibuntu, but I'm still getting "Package acroread is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:38] <felixsulla> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[00:38] <felixsulla> is only available from another source
[00:38] <felixsulla> E: Package acroread has no installation candidate
[00:38] <felixsulla> "
[00:38] <FloodBot1> felixsulla: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:38] <felixsulla> Oh crap sorry everyone :(
[00:38] <dfwlinuxguy> seaphor there are a lot of high volume..high visibility sites that depend on vsftpd
[00:38] <durt> !dvd | youngblood
[00:38] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: You can use the Ubuntu liveCD to resize Ubuntu with gparted to make free space for windows. As far as making windows install to that free space instead of reformatting the entire drive ask in ##windows
[00:38] <dfwlinuxguy> seaphor I agree...it's great
[00:39] <felixsulla> Does anyone know how to get Acrobat Reader installed?
[00:39] <dsp_> I'm having some problems getting the restricted NVIDIA drivers to work.
[00:39] <Jordan_U> LinuX2half: Even if you tell windows to install to the free space it will still overwrite grub, but that's easy to fix
[00:39] <durt> felixsulla, enable the partner repository in souftware sources. then it should be available.
[00:39] <Jordan_U> !grub | LinuX2half
[00:39] <youngblood> durt, i don't understand your reply.
[00:40] <dsp_> I've installed nvidia-glx-185 through apt and configured it appropriately, but whenever X tries to start it gives me an 'Module nvidia not found'
[00:40] <felixsulla> durt: How do I enable partner repository? :/
[00:40] <dsp_> I did an lsmod and grepd for nvidia, and it isn't showing anything either.
[00:40] <dsp_> Any ideas?
[00:40] <durt> youngblood, follow the first link, the shell script you ran is a very old way, I don't think it works anymore
[00:41] <durt> felixsulla, either in synaptic or software sources from the applications menu.
[00:41] <felixsulla> durt: acroread is still not avail
[00:42] <wobbiebobbie> wobbiebobbie
[00:42] <LinuX2half> Jordon_U: oh, it sound a pretty confusing to me...
[00:42] <Purpley1> now how do i run the fgrun
[00:43] <durt> felixsulla, what exactly did you do?
[00:43] <Aiya> hello.
[00:43] <felixsulla> I added the partner repository, then refreshed, still no acrobat reader, no acroread
[00:43] <Chaos_1585> can anyone help me with my wireless?  everytime I restart after installing any updates, my wireless is always listed as "device not managed" in network manager
[00:44] <Purpley1> now how do i run the fgrun
[00:44] <k0nane> Hello folks. I have two soundcards (onboard and X-Fi Notebook) using snd-hda-intel; alsaconf detects both, lspci detects both, already tried adding an alias for snd-card-1 in 50-sound.conf, can't turn off onboard in BIOS. Ideas?
[00:44] <Aiya> How do i make the icon at bottom of desktop (eg:firefox,files and so on) just like in this picture http://gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/78633-1.jpg
[00:44] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[00:45] <Purpley1> oh wait
[00:45] <Purpley1> fgrun: error while loading shared libraries: libosgParticle.so.61: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[00:45] <Purpley1>  i get this message when i try to run it
[00:45] <Bluey> Aiya: that looks like compiz
[00:45] <legend2440> Purpley1: is the program your trying to install called Flightgear?
[00:46] <Aiya> Bluey : how do i make in ubuntu?
[00:46] <Purpley1> no
[00:46] <Purpley1> AIts related
[00:46] <Purpley1> Its related
[00:46] <maco> Aiya: do you have make installed?
[00:46] <Purpley1> Its to select aircrafts before you start flightgear
[00:46] <maco> Aiya: oh sorry nevermind
[00:46] <Aiya> maco haven't yet
[00:46] <durt> felixsulla, strange, not coming up in add/remove, but is available through synaptic.
[00:46] <kingnerd> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[00:47] <Like> any one know how too download gnome live
[00:47] <Bluey> Aiya -- well it's a tad complicated on configure but here's how you enable/disable it:  System/Preferences/Appearance/Visual Effects/Extra
[00:47] <Aiya> Okey
[00:47] <legend2440> Purpley1: here is fgrun.deb    http://www.unitedfreeworld.com/ubuntu_debian_fgfs_installation.html
[00:47] <Aiya> Thanks Bluey
[00:47] <Bluey> i don't run it, fwiw
[00:47] <felixsulla> durt: What did you search for in synaptic?
[00:47] <meek> killall -9 isn't killing, what should I do?
[00:47] <ShapeShifter499> I'm trying to make my mom's comp look like mac os x when it has ubuntu on it, so I did everything but I'm trying to enable desktop effects via Appearance Preferences but I can't, I keep getting a "desktop effects could not be enabled", what can I do?
[00:47] <Bluey> meek try pkill
[00:47] <Aiya>  Bluey can i make the toolbar in right side of the window also?
[00:47] <durt> felixsulla, acrobat, but acroread is the package name.
[00:48] <Bluey> and give it the name
[00:48] <Purpley1> legend
[00:48] <Purpley1> I installed it
[00:48] <Purpley1> oh wait
[00:48] <felixsulla> durt: Ok, so I quit Synaptic and restarted and now it works. Thanks for your help!
[00:48] <Bluey> Aiya - -I don't know how to configure it - just enable/disable it...
[00:48] <Aiya> ok
[00:48] <Aiya> Bluey Thanks
[00:48] <meek> still not killing
[00:48] <k0nane> Rephrase: two cards same driver, how can I disable one?
[00:49] <durt> meek, who owns the process?
[00:49] <Bluey> Aiya - try looking up compiz tutorial on youtube -- some good help there on configuring it.
[00:49] <arand> Are there any good guides for sharing internet connection using the wireless interface (i.e. ubuntu as a wl acess point) with the help of firestarter... I've set up an ad-hoc network and configured fs around that, the win machine connect but does not have acess to web, samba events are logged in firestarter...
[00:49] <Purpley1> No when i type in fgfs
[00:49] <Aiya> Bluey Thanks
[00:49] <meek> durt: root, I think
[00:49] <Purpley1> It dosent run FGRUN
[00:49] <Bluey> arand -- I've got that half written up...
[00:49] <k0nane> Arand: http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=firestarter+share+internet+connection&aq=0&aqi=g2g-m1&oq=firestarter+share+&fp=c807e9ccc08a197a
[00:49] <durt> meek, then you need sudo pkill or sudo killall, but be carefull...
[00:50] <meek> durt: I am logged in as root
[00:50] <|pez|> Have any of you guys set up suPHP on ubuntu?
[00:50] <ShapeShifter499> anyone?
[00:50] <SeaPhor> Aiya, try #compiz, other than that just be patient until someone that has compiz interests can help you
[00:50] <youngblood> durt,  I tried installing libdvdcss2 by following the point earlier. I'm told that the restricted package is already installed. Any other pointers you could give me?
[00:50] <dragon> is there a simple and quick command in gimp (or any other tool) to split an image into two based on the white regions?
[00:50] <dragon> s/simple and//
[00:50] <arand> k0nane: that guide concerns only wired setup though...
[00:50] <k0nane> Arand: More specifically http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-501946.html
[00:51] <EtherNet> does anyone use Empathy as MSN chat client?
[00:51] <durt> youngblood, what exactly is happening/
[00:51] <dragon> !anyone | EtherNet
[00:51] <themhz> hello all
[00:52] <Purpley1> libosgParticle.so.61 it says i need that how do i get it
[00:52] <tommy_> hello
[00:53] <youngblood> durt,  I put the dvd in and it start to play, but after it goes by the warning message i get an error telling me that libdvdcss not installed.
[00:53] <LjL> dragon: the closest i know is "pnmcrop --white", but it won't *split*
[00:53] <durt> youngblood, which player/
[00:53] <durt> ?
[00:53] <NewfierRich> can any tell me some good software to burn off video files for a dvd player
[00:53] <SeaPhor> youngblood, what app you using to play dvd?
[00:53] <tommy_> how do i get a screen recorder on xubuntu
[00:53] <Purpley1> libosgParticle.so.61 it says i need that how do i get it
[00:54] <youngblood> durt,  xine
[00:54] <tommy_> how do i get a screen recorder on xubuntu
[00:54] <youngblood> SeaPhor, xine
[00:54] <tommy_> how do i get a screen recorder on xubuntu
[00:54] <k0nane> youngblood: Use VLC, it's got the decoders built in.
[00:54] <dragon> LjL: that works, i can cp and then run that. I'll try it out.
[00:54] <Purpley1> cmon guys pls help
[00:54] <Purpley1> libosgParticle.so.61 it says i need that how do i get it
[00:55] <durt> tommy_, packages.ubuntu.com
[00:55] <SeaPhor> sorry durt ,, didn't see ya ;-) i'd suggest vlc or mplayer for youngblood
 you can go Applications - add remove and check some good stuff there
[00:55] <k0nane> Youngblood: alternately 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[00:55] <k0nane> And after, 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh'
[00:56] <youngblood> SeaPhor, I have I have mplayer installed also.
[00:56] <grturner> hey i'm trying to change the color of the text in the cpufreq applet on intrepid. anyone know how to?
[00:56] <youngblood> k0nane, I did that command. Still doesn't work.
[00:57] <SeaPhor> youngblood, -->what k0nane said
[00:57] <k0nane> Youngblood: Run both, the package includes the library but the install-css.sh script activates it.
[00:57] <arand> k0nane: that doesn't seem to help me though... I have the ad-hoc connection working ok, I can ping the win machine, and I see some probing samba traffic in the events of firestarter, but the win machine, as mentioned gets no internet
[00:57] <k0nane> Arand: can you ping the Ubu machine from the Win machine?
[00:58] <dragon> LjL:
[00:58] <dragon> user@host:/tmp/images$ pnmcrop --white image.png
[00:58] <dragon> pnmcrop: bad magic number - not a ppm, pgm, or pbm file
[00:58] <Purpley1> libosgParticle.so.61 it says i need that how do i get it
[00:58] <SeaPhor> youngblood, how new is this ubuntu install?? have you got all updates?
[00:58] <Purpley1> PLEASE guys
[00:58] <k0nane> Arand: and what have you got for firewall on the Win side?
[00:58] <Purpley1> i want to do this
[00:59] <Purpley1> ive been trying to get it to work for 2 hours now
[00:59] <LjL> dragon: well, it does need to be a pnm image. try "pngtopnm image.pnm | pnmcrop --white | pnmtopng >newimage.png"
[00:59] <arand> k0nane: I have not tested that, and unfortunately it's shut down at the moment... hmm, I guess I should come here to bother when I have the whole thing running I guess...
[00:59] <Purpley1> libosgParticle.so.61 it says i need that how do i get it
[00:59] <dragon> LjL: hm. Would that affect the image quality?
[00:59] <dragon> !apt-file | Purpley1
[00:59] <LjL> dragon: no, they're all lossless formats.
[00:59] <k0nane> Arand: Might help. :) Firewall on there sounds like the most likely problem, I've seen things like that several times.
[00:59] <arand> k0nane: but I'll note that down for later testing
[00:59] <Purpley1> tried it
[00:59] <dragon> LjL: alright
[00:59] <youngblood> SeaPhor, I upgraded about a month ago.
[01:00] <themhz> Purpley whats the problem ?:)
[01:00] <arand> k0nane: okies, thanks for help.
[01:00] <k0nane> arand: Windows Firewall you'll have to play with; there could be any number of ways it's sticking up. ZoneAlarm, I used to have issues until adding the network range (or at least the gateway) to trusted.
[01:01] <dragon> LjL: it worked, thanks
[01:01] <SeaPhor> youngblood, if you ran the "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" already, try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade sources.list"
[01:02] <Slade> wow, i like gnomenu
[01:04] <k0nane> Once again, my issue: two sound cards, same driver, only one fully loads, how to disable the first?
[01:04] <RegressLess> When I log into my netbook at home, I have to unlock the keyring to access my wireless network. Is there a way to automate this? 'tis annoying.
[01:04] <arand> k0nane: yea, I remeber those woes al to well...
[01:05] <SeaPhor> k0nane, is one an onboard? if so is it loaded in the system bios?
[01:05] <jbicha> well, if you don't use the keyring...
[01:06] <RegressLess> jbicha: are you talking to me?
[01:06] <LinuX2half> does anyone here know how to make rooms for windows?
[01:06] <jbicha> RegressLess: yeah, I don't use the keyring and I don't have to enter the password in all the time
[01:07] <SeaPhor> LinuX2half, what do you mean "rooms"
[01:07] <RegressLess> jbicha: I thought I had to do that or at least still have to enter my wireless network password.
[01:07] <LinuX2half> seaPhor, make space for the windows installation
[01:08] <k0nane> LinuX2half: google "gparted live" and run that (at your own risk, back up first).
[01:08] <bobo123> has someone installed nctuns on ubuntu?
[01:08] <SeaPhor> LinuX2half, it is generally a better idea to install windows first, but you can boot from the live cd and use gparted to resize the partitions
[01:08] <joejc> my brother did something to xchat now everything is all rainbow
[01:09] <blkdg> how do i create xorg.conf. mine is empty.
[01:09] <vipskelvin> Olá pessoal
[01:09] <joejc> i cant take it anymore
[01:09] <k0nane> blkdg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:09] <joejc> i keep getting kicked for it
[01:09] <LjL> !pt | vipskelvin
[01:09] <blkdg> thanks k0nane
[01:09] <k0nane> blkdg: also 'man xorg.conf'
[01:09] <n-iCe> hi
[01:10] <dragon> does the following bash function look incorrect? png-border(){ pngtopnm $1 | pnmcrop --white | pnmmargin -white 5 | pnmtopng > $1; }
[01:10] <dragon> LjL: ^
[01:10] <ae86-drifter> herro cittty wok take order pree
[01:10] <ddo> hi everyone...
[01:10] <RegressLess> jbicha: do you know if I can automatically log into my password-protected wireless network if I didn't use the keyring?
[01:10] <joejc> anybody know how to fix it?
[01:10] <hoo-hah> hi guys, I'm havin an issue with gnome font. From my upload at http://omploader.org/vMmo4aQ , you can see the system bar font is a very light grey, on brown background. It's the same whether it's active or inactive. How do I make it as bright as the firefox menubar beneath it?
[01:11] <dragon> !troll > ae86-drifter
[01:11] <youngblood> SeaPhor, the dvd start, but after the warning I still get the error libdvdcss not installed. I also entered those commands before I tried to play the dvd. Any other pointers?
[01:11] <SeaPhor> RegressLess, yes, just "deny" the keyring
[01:11] <joejc> anybody?
[01:11] <LjL> dragon: uhm, while i do bash scripting often enough, i must admit i don't often write functions and am not too sure of the syntax.
[01:12] <LjL> dragon: but, for starters it needs to start with "function"
[01:12] <k0nane> joejc: Your client?
[01:12] <dragon> LjL: syntax is apparently ok, but the input file is not being read, resulting in a 0 byte output file
[01:12] <LjL> dragon: and, looking at a script i have that uses functions, it has no (), but those might just be optional
[01:12] <SeaPhor> youngblood, check the "region" settings on the DVD, i have never had an issue playing any DVD with mplayer or vlc
[01:12] <marduk> dragon: can't have "-" in a function name
[01:12] <joejc> if i use another client it will stop?
[01:13] <joejc> i like xchat though
[01:13] <RegressLess> SeaPhor: do you know how to remove it from the keyring?
[01:13] <k0nane> joejc: It should, yes, but to know how to get -- okay there you go, that's what I needed to know.
[01:13] <dragon> dragon@abhatia-ll:/tmp/snapshots$ my-func(){ date; }
[01:13] <dragon> dragon@abhatia-ll:/tmp/snapshots$ my-func
[01:13] <dragon> Mon Oct 12 17:13:15 PDT 2009
[01:13] <theNOTO> i'm trying to do a usb netinstall but my nic isn't recognized - i have the driver on the usb but can't figure out how to access it from the netinstall shell
[01:14] <SeaPhor> RegressLess, sorry- no, i dont, i hate that stupid pop-up
[01:14] <dragon> syntax is ok, but the pipes are broken somewhere in the former
[01:14] <youngblood> SeaPhor, what is a region setting?
[01:14] <k0nane> joejc: Check for rainbow.pl under /home/[your user]/.xchat2
[01:14] <joejc> anyway to keep xchat and kill the rainbow?
[01:14] <acoisa> ppl i have a little problem with my amsn is warning me about something wrong "tkcximage failed" i tried # sudo mv /usr/bin/wish /usr/bin/wish-bak     and svn co https://amsn.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/amsn/trunk/amsn amsn, if any know how i can fixit help.
[01:14] <LjL> dragon: oh wait, you can't rewrite to the same $1 file, use another filename
[01:14] <RegressLess> does anyone know how to edit the keyring settings?
[01:15] <blkdg> k0nane it's asking me what my video cards bus identifyer is, is that the same number as in lspci?
[01:15] <LjL> dragon: (or install and use "sponge" if you really want to overwrite)
[01:15] <joejc>  nope
[01:15] <dragon> LjL: i'll try that out
[01:15] <themhz> ubuntu is so beutifull i am in love! :)
[01:15] <k0nane> blkdg: Just press enter.
[01:15] <marduk> dragon: apparently bash honors that but it's not compatible with /bin/sh
[01:15] <k0nane> RegressLess: gnome-keyring-manager
[01:16] <blkdg> ok
[01:16] <dragon> LjL: that was it, thanks again!
[01:16] <Slade> ok, with my speaker setup, i have a separate subwoofer. How do i get linux to understand that and route all the bass thru that?
[01:16] <dragon> marduk: yes
[01:16] <SeaPhor> youngblood, region is like ...  europe, chinese, etc,,, we do testing on several regions,,, also check the DVD/ODD manufacturer for firmware updates, also your pc mfg...
[01:17] <RegressLess> k0nane: can you be more specific? I tried alt-f2 and got an error
[01:18] <Ubuntuser> I am having trouble with no programs being able to find the xvid codec, in libavcodec (winff) etc etc
[01:18] <k0nane> RegressLess: If you've got "Passwords and Encryption Keys" in Administration or Preferences, use that.
[01:19] <k0nane> RegressLess: I believe it's the same thing. The name may be slightly different; I'm on Linux Mint.
[01:20] <bruno> hi evferyone
[01:20] <k0nane> Slade: This may help you. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-670416.html
[01:21] <Guest55792> i've a doubt about how to cluster in ubuntu
[01:21] <Guest55792> anyone?
[01:21] <dragon> !medibuntu | Ubuntuser
[01:21] <Guest55792> ?
[01:22] <k0nane> Guest55792: Cluster what?
[01:22] <Slade> k0nane: thank you :)
[01:22] <Guest55792> like dr. queue
[01:22] <dragon> !info eucalyptus-cloud | Guest55792
[01:23] <Chaos_1585> quick question about the clock: any way to get it to set to UTC and display that as a timezone i can choose?
[01:23] <Guest55792> wow cool, its seems to be exactly hat i wont
[01:24] <Guest55792> do you know if its clusters operations like math, and at the same time graphics and video and etc?
[01:24] <nickrud> Chaos_1585, edit /etc/default/rcS and set UTC to yes
[01:24] <Chaos_1585> thanks nickrud
[01:25] <dsp_> For some reason, sound has mysteriously stopped working.
[01:25] <dsp_> The sound manager is showing now audio devices.
[01:25] <dsp_> A quick check of lspci tells me that it is detected.
[01:25] <dsp_> Anybody have a clue what's going on?
[01:25] <thedude42> dsp_, have you looked at /var/log/syslog?
[01:26] <k0nane> DSP: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D205449&ei=DsnTSqzgIsLT8Aa1xtj0CQ&rct=j&q=comprehensive+sound+ubuntu&usg=AFQjCNFNZzjn-jWCpX4ja-lcuYoCdhMMNQ
[01:26] <dsp_> I haven't.
[01:26] <RegressLess> k0nane: I have Encryption and Keyrings, but I don't get it. In the Encryption tab, there's a drop-down for Default Key, but it only has one choice: "None. Prompt for a key." Then there's a checkbox that says " When encrypting, always include myself as a recipient, which is checked. On the PGP Passphrases tab, it says Remember PGP Passphrases, but then it says "A supported PGP passphrase caching agent is not running."
[01:26] <dsp_> k0nane, appreciate it.
[01:26] <dsp_> I'll check it out.
[01:26] <k0nane> RegressLess: What exactly are you trying to do?
[01:27] <k0nane> Speaking of sound... As I said before, two cards, both using snd-hda-intel, ALSA and lspci detect both, aplay -l and everything else gets one. Ideas on disabling the onboard (BIOS not an option)?
[01:27] <Guest55792> anyone know the eucaliptus cloud ?
[01:28] <k0nane> Guest55792: Google does~
[01:28] <RegressLess> k0nane: my wireless network is password protected. When I first set up ubuntu it asked if I wanted to add it to the keyring, so I agreed. Now, every time I log in, I have to enter the keyring password. It's driving me mad.
[01:28] <Fernandos> hi
[01:28] <craigbass1976> anyone used lkl?  Know of docs somewhere?
[01:28] <Fernandos> I gotta problem
[01:28] <Slade> Hello Fernandos
[01:28] <Fernandos> Hi Slade
[01:29] <Fernandos> I wanna watch youtube and porn :P but flash laggy soo hard
[01:29] <k0nane> RegressLess: You set the password in the first place, correct?
[01:29] <k0nane> Fernandos: Best answer is use Windows. Flash on Linux and Mac sucks hard.
[01:29] <RegressLess> k0nane: yes
[01:30] <mgv2> i hate ubuntu
[01:30] <pilif12p> k0nane: or he can use Firefox in WINE
[01:30] <mgv2> :-)
[01:30] <k0nane> pilif12p: Interesting, true.
[01:30] <Fernandos> k0nane: I just killed my win7 installation. Gotta msdnaa subscription. But I'm used to use linux
[01:30] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  After doing all the commands that have been suggested, I still don't see that libdvdcss has been installed. Is there a specific command I can enter to install that lib?
[01:30] <pilif12p> But, i hate flash... I never installed it  :D
[01:30] <Slade> I can look at youtube and porn just fine
[01:31] <Fernandos> k0nane: I dislike windows, except for photoshop and such
[01:31] <Slade> flashplayer works fine in firefox
[01:31] <RegressLess> Fernando: are you using flash from Adobe? i.e., genuine flash
[01:31] <Fernandos> RegressLess: It's super fresh installation. I just installed ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:31] <SeaPhor> youngblood, inn the term,,, cd to the dir...
[01:31] <Fernandos> RegressLess: somehow it lags hard and takes many cpu cycles..
[01:31] <RegressLess> Fernando: Make sure you have the real flash from Adobe, that should fix it
[01:32] <Fernandos> It wasn't that hard in older ubuntu versions like 8.10..
[01:32] <SeaPhor> youngblood, try this... http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=54&Itemid=50&mosmsg=Item+successfully+saved
[01:32] <k0nane> RegressLess: This may or may not work, but have a look at http://www.goitexpert.com/general/disable-login-to-wireless-wifi-in-ubuntu/
[01:32] <RegressLess> Fernandos: You can find the real flash in Add/Remove
[01:32] <Fernandos> RegressLess: but the flash version from adobe and the repo is the same?
[01:32] <LinuX2half> why there's an error when I try to burn the CD?
[01:32] <Fernandos> RegressLess: same version number of flash
[01:33] <LinuX2half> I'm using Brasero
[01:33] <k0nane> RegressLess: Also http://davestechsupport.com/blog/2009/01/16/how-to-remove-ubuntus-password-keyring/
[01:33] <RegressLess> Fernandos: If you install from Add/Remove, you get auto updates
[01:34] <Slade> Fernandos: just dont use the maximize thingie
[01:34] <Ubuntuser> I am having trouble with no programs being able to find the xvid codec, in libavcodec (winff) etc etc but I have it installed
[01:34] <Fernandos> Slade haha no I don't maximize. But it still lags extremely hard. I get only like 5fps on vids
[01:35] <Slade> Fernandos: what are your specs? graphics card, etc?
[01:35] <k0nane> Fernandos: try disabling hardware acceleration.
[01:35] <Fernandos> Radeon 9800XT, P4 3.2GHz
[01:35] <Fernandos> Audigy 2 Platinum Ex
[01:36] <TimothyA> bad mix
[01:36] <TimothyA> ATI and creative labs...
[01:36] <blkdg> thanks again
[01:36] <InitHello> ok, my girlfriend's computer (Jaunty, nVidia 7300 SE, nvidia-glx-180 installed) is having something that looks suspiciously like a kernel panic after running for a little while. Is it possible that I messed something up by installing a 32-bit flash plugin on her amd64 system, or should I me looking for something hardware-related?
[01:36] <KB1JWQ> InitHello: I'd guess hardware.
[01:37] <xangua> InitHello: there already exists flash 64 bits
[01:37] <Fernandos> k0nane: disable hardware acceleration? Never seen such a dialoge
[01:37] <InitHello> well, shucks. And it's a brand spankin' new graphics card, too
[01:37] <craigbass1976> InitHello, heat?
[01:37] <k0nane> InitHello: Did you check syslog?
[01:37] <InitHello> craigbass1976: she says the heat sink is cool-warmish
[01:37] <k0nane> InitHello: And, any specific programs running when it dies?
[01:37] <leaf-sheep> InitHello: There are a native 64-bit flash support. Use that instead of 32-bit flash plugin. ;3
[01:37] <RegressLess> k0nane: The first link looks promising. brb
[01:37] <LinuX2half> Can someone tell me the error in this pastebin? http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5a49f689
[01:37] <InitHello> k0nane: yeah, I checked syslog, and firefox on facebook
[01:38] <InitHello> k0nane: one sec, lemme pastebin syslog
[01:38] <k0nane> InitHello: That may well be Flash though it really shouldn't be.
[01:38] <Random832> so... i just installed from the cd, and chose the easy option on the partitioning screen... and it didn't give me enough swap space to hibernate. so how do i fix it?
[01:38] <leaf-sheep> LinuX2half: For me, Brasero always have produced errors when burning ISO or such. Try the disc though.
[01:38] <Random832> can it hibernate to a file, or does it need to be a real swap drive?
[01:39] <Fernandos> k0nane: I've got Ubuntu 9.10
[01:39] <ynk> does anyone write C++ code with Netbeans? i think my problem with the IDE may be related to Ubuntu...
[01:39] <LinuX2half> leaf-sheep: you mean the CD/DVD creator?
[01:39] <youngblood> SeaPhor, I read the information that you pointed to. I don't have a libdvdread4 directory. Do you have another pointer?
[01:39] <InitHello> k0nane: http://paste.ubuntu.com/291993/ -- I didn't glean any useful information, maybe it means something to you
[01:39] <leaf-sheep> LinuX2half: That's Brasero -- Yes. CD/DVD Creator.
[01:39] <Fernandos> fresh install just 1h old.. wanted to test the machine with some youtube 'n porn stuff
[01:39] <Fernandos> u know
[01:39] <leaf-sheep> !karmic | Fernandos
[01:39] <InitHello> k0nane: also, it worked perfectly when she was borrowing my 8800GT, which makes me suspect hardware as well
[01:39] <craigbass1976> Is there an lkl type program that would also monitor touchpad activity?  I've a customer who complains of her pointer flying around.  I think her thumb is brushing the trackpad.  Perhaps such an app would also register the trackpad activating itself though...
[01:40] <k0nane> Fernandos: right-click a video, Settings, and it's somewhere in there
[01:40] <Fernandos> leaf-sheep: hey thanks fella
[01:40] <manicmike> QUIT
[01:40] <k0nane> InitHello: That's plenty likely,
[01:40] <adante> does anybody know how to enable case-insensitive filename completion in bash?
[01:40] <InitHello> k0nane: good thing it was a cheapo $25 card
[01:40] <k0nane> InitHello: You could try running a graphics stress-test, or just RMA it.
[01:40] <adante> i'm trying to run this command: "set completion-ignore-case on" but it does nothing?
[01:41] <LinuX2half> leaf-sheep well its choosing brasero by default...
[01:41] <leaf-sheep> craigbass1976: Google for the said customer's hardware specs. The pointer went crazy on fresh installation for me in Jaunty. Turned out that I had to flash the BIO to latest to get it working.
[01:41] <youngblood> SeaPhor, forget the last message I sent. my mistake.
[01:41] <Fernandos> k0nane: thanks. tried, but I didn't do the trick
[01:41] <leaf-sheep> LinuX2half: I know. I'm saying... Try the CD you burned. Brasero do generate errors for me and I ignored them.  Because the CD works just fine.
[01:41] <ZanQdo> hey, my SD card reader in my acer one is not mounting, how can I do it on ubuntu 9.04?
[01:42] <ZanQdo> heres the lscpi output http://www.pasteall.org/8412
[01:42] <leaf-sheep> craigbass1976: If you want to avoid flashing BIOS, there always are a kernel parameter that you'd need to add in the bootup sequence to bypass that.
[01:42] <ynk> what would be an incentive to using the newer Ubuntu versions (if you're not a developer)? we get the same application updates on the LTS version, don't we?
[01:42] <xangua> no
[01:42] <k0nane> ZanQdo: Model of card reader?
[01:42] <LjL> ynk: no
[01:42] <InitHello> ynk: for some people, it's just being on the bleeding edge of the newest and shiniest
[01:43] <pilif12p> How do i run ./foo.pl at bar.pm ?
[01:43] <a_> help please! I try to go to my external HD in terminal through "cd /media/disc 3" but it says "No such file or directory". How do I get ubuntu to recognize my external drives?
[01:43] <InitHello> ynk: such as myself. I upgraded to karmic about 3 months ago, because it was newer and shinier than jaunty
[01:43] <LjL> ynk: updates are only issued for security bugs or particularly serious bugs, aside from the Backports repository, which only targets some end-user software
[01:43] <canthus13> ZanQdo: The card reader isn't showing up int here.
[01:43] <Malcolm_06> Hi ppl
[01:43] <LinuX2half> leaf-sheep nope the CD doesn't have any tracks in it
[01:43] <canthus13> ZanQdo: try lsusb and see if it shows up there.
[01:44] <leaf-sheep> ynk: LTS are for people who don't want to maintain their systems all times or every 6 months.  Useful for businesses.
[01:44] <Malcolm_06> I t weird that my sytem never uses swap memory
[01:44] <leaf-sheep> LinuX2half: I don't burn tracks but ask others on what apps they use to burn tracks.
[01:44] <SeaPhor> youngblood, i'm confused,,, is that working for you or no?
[01:44] <arand> ynk: all applications are generally newer on newer releases, LTS only gets major-bug fixes and security updates, sort-of..
[01:44] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  no
[01:45] <LjL> a_: is there an actual space between "disc" and "3"? if so, it's not surprising that it won't work
[01:45] <MTecknology> ynk: I'm one of those people that needs to tweak the life out of an Ubuntu system - I'm compiling an Ubuntu kernel that will pretty much match a Gentoo kernel right now
[01:45] <Malcolm_06> ...
[01:45] <k0nane> a_: And it's more likely disk3, not disc3
[01:45] <ZanQdo> canthus13, http://www.pasteall.org/8413
[01:46] <canthus13> ZanQdo: Huh.  It doesn't show up at all in your hardware.
[01:46] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  I don't understand why libdvdcss  doesn't show up when i run synaptic.
[01:46] <SeaPhor> youngblood, and your using 9,04?
[01:46] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  yes
[01:46] <MTecknology> canthus13: what's he trying to do?
[01:46] <ZanQdo> canthus13, yah noticed that
[01:46] <canthus13> MTecknology: Find his card reader.
[01:46] <xangua> youngblood: that's because is not in the oficial repositories
[01:46] <canthus13> MTecknology: It's not showing up in lspci or lsusb.
[01:46] <xangua> !medibuntu | youngblood
[01:46] <adante> hi, i installed sun-java5-bin and it does not set my JAVA_HOME - am i supposed to set this myself?
[01:46] <canthus13> ZanQdo: Was it showing up before?
[01:46] <ZanQdo> no never on ubuntu
[01:46] <MTecknology> canthus13: integrated or external?
[01:47] <ZanQdo> just when it had winblows
[01:47] <Malcolm_06> lol
[01:47] <Malcolm_06> winblows
[01:47] <canthus13> MTecknology: Integrated.
[01:47] <Malcolm_06> HA
[01:47] <ZanQdo> integrated
[01:47] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  I did an upgrade by using the web.
[01:47] <timber> is there a way to disable the case sensitive in nautilus?
[01:47] <canthus13> ZanQdo: Acer aspire, right?
[01:47] <ZanQdo> yep
[01:47] <MTecknology> Malcolm_06: this isn't the place for that - this is a support only channel
[01:47] <ynk> LjL, InitHello, leaf-sheep, arand: very interesting! i'm using Hardy Heron, myself, because i had no clue how "nasty" the shinier releases would be. what are you guys running?
[01:48] <Malcolm_06> I know that
[01:48] <InitHello> ynk: karmic, and I like it
[01:48] <MTecknology> ynk: why don't you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:49] <Malcolm_06> can any one explain to me what swap space is
[01:49] <SeaPhor> youngblood, type (copy/paste) this in a term...  ls /usr/share/doc/libdvd
[01:49] <MTecknology> !swap
[01:49] <ynk> MTecknology, good point. my mistake. :]
[01:49] <canthus13> ZanQdo: Actually, after digging a little, it looks like there are lotsa problems with the acer aspire card reader.
[01:49] <arand> ynk: I'll happily continue conversation in offtopic.
[01:49] <leaf-sheep> ynk: Karmic. Testing. :)
[01:49] <youngblood> xangua,  can you give me a pointer on how to access this repository?
[01:49] <ZanQdo> canthus13, yah it seems :s
[01:49] <canthus13> ZanQdo: This might be the best place, if you haven't already looked.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne#Uubuntu9.04
[01:49] <themhz> http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space
[01:49] <leaf-sheep> ynk: I'd suggest you wait until the end of the month for Karmic release if you're feeling bored with your systme.
[01:50] <LjL> ynk: i'm running kubuntu hardy. from what i hear, newer releases aren't really particularly "nasty". what usually happens is that during the very first month or so, some bugs do need to be ironed out, but after that, there's some and not too many bugs in every release
[01:50] <SeaPhor> youngblood, type (copy/paste) this in a term...  ls /usr/share/doc/libdvd and hit tab
[01:50] <pilif12p> anyone know?
[01:51] <ZanQdo> canthus13, I think Im there aactually
[01:51] <RegressLess> k0nane: that didn't work, I'll try the next.
[01:51] <MTecknology> pilif12p: yes I do know that I didn't see the question
[01:51] <Random832> anyone know how to resize partitions without restarting? my swap partition is too small
[01:52] <r3dhat> anyone know what I can do to get my newer ati card working in jaunty? I tried fglrx and I get kernel panics, and reverting to 8.10 didn't work either
[01:52] <k0nane> Random832: You don't.
[01:52] <Polk330> How can i use an Ipod Touch with Ubuntu
[01:52] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  I do not have that directory, /usr/share/doc/libdvd.
[01:52] <Mike_lifeguard> Hello, where does ubuntu keep the system-wide cgi-bin directory?
[01:52] <MTecknology> Random832: that depends - pastebin fdisk -l
[01:52] <k0nane> Random832: As far as I know you can't resize a system ext3 partition while it's in use.
[01:52] <Random832> dammit - why did the installer only give me 886MB of swap when i've got 3GB of ram and want to be able to hibernate
[01:52] <rpj8> Has the upgrade vs fresh install success ratio improved at all in recent versions? I haenm't been keeping up
[01:52] <SeaPhor> youngblood, hit tab twice]
[01:52] <SeaPhor> youngblood, hit tab twice
[01:52] <leaf-sheep> !ipod | Polk330
[01:52] <Random832> when i pick the easy way i expect it to do things _right_, at least for something as predictable as that
[01:52] <InitHello> rpj8: you mean like dist-upgrade? That worked fine for me from jaunty to karmic
[01:53] <MTecknology> Random832: pastebin "fdisk -l /dev/sda"
[01:53] <Polk330> thanks leaf-sheep
[01:53] <rpj8> InitHello: this is what I was asking about. I haven't used ubuntu in a while. but I remember in the past thinking it was a better idea to just do a fresh install rather than full system upgrade.
[01:53] <rpj8> InitHello: based on experience, rather than theory, of course.
[01:53] <Random832> MTecknology: why do you need that?
[01:54] <LuisJa> Oh comeon people, no one of you have been able to help me with this issue  -_-, i need the help: i did a reinstalation of kubuntu, but i used 64amd instead, now runescape lags as hell at everymoment, and cannot use HD, i am thinking of reinstallation, its that the only solution?!
[01:54] <youngblood> SeaPhor, ok i have a list. what am i looking for?
[01:54] <MTecknology> Random832: if you want help - then I need that
[01:54] <InitHello> rpj8: I've heard bad things about dist-upgrade in general, but never had a problem in any .deb-based distro I've used
[01:54] <ZanQdo> brb trying something
[01:54] <SeaPhor> youngblood, directory names
[01:54] <k0nane> LuisJa: Processor specs? Did you install the right videocard driver?
[01:54] <rpj8> InitHello: Fair enough. Thanks very much :)
[01:54] <r3dhat> anyone know what I can do to get my newer ati card working in jaunty? I tried fglrx and I get kernel panics, and reverting to 8.10 didn't work either
[01:54] <rpj8> LuisJa: I wouldn't know. I don't run a 64 bit system OR runescape.
[01:54] <k0nane> r3dhat: Model?
[01:54] <InitHello> rpj8: my pleasure, and good fortune with your endeavours
[01:54] <Random832> fine http://paste.ubuntu.com/291998/
[01:55] <r3dhat> k0nane: mobility radoen hd 3670
[01:55] <rpj8> InitHello: thanks sir, and you too.
[01:55] <erpo> How stable is ext4 in Ubuntu 9.04? I'm deciding which filesystem to use for a backup drive.
[01:55] <k0nane> r3dhat: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1059855.html
[01:55] <rpj8> erpo: No problems here with ext4 yet.
[01:55] <SeaPhor> youngblood, directory names, if its 1 line, paste here
[01:55] <erpo> rpj8: Have you ever lost power while using an ext4 filesystem?
[01:55] <r3dhat> k0nane: tried that already
[01:55] <rpj8> erpo: Yep. Recovery was fine.
[01:56] <r3dhat> it works for a boot or two and then panics
[01:56] <k0nane> r3dhat: You tried the no backfill patch?
[01:56] <erpo> rpj8: That's cool. One data point. :)
[01:56] <r3dhat> k0nane: yes
[01:56] <k0nane> r3dhat: Okay, hold
[01:56] <LuisJa> rpj8: My laptop supports 64amd, but i am not pretty sure abouyt the driver, can u help me?
[01:56] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  it was a list. I did not see libdvd in the list.
[01:57] <speedxxxcore> is there any major disadvantage in installing a new dist, as a vm in an old LTS dist. To clarify VMWarre or XEN running on an LTS. And the newest possible dist as a guest os.
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> speedxxxcore:  for vmware, or virtualbox - the version for the 'lts' might be  a bit ole.
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> old.
[01:58] <adante> how can i export a variable to my environment? export does not seem to do it (does not show up in 'env' command?)
[01:58] <k0nane> r3dhat: Several long threads... http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=radeon+3670+ubuntu+9.04&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=c807e9ccc08a197a Sorry, I'm out of ideas.
[01:58] <rpj8> LuisJa: I don't know. Like I said, I don't play runescape, use 64bit ubuntu, or knwo what you're saying when you say "driver" :)
[01:58] <speedxxxcore> Dr_Willis: ok. but do the guest os loose any major functions?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> andatche:  export exports things to children processes... what are you douint exactly
[01:58] <LuisJa> damn lol
[01:58] <SeaPhor> youngblood, type (copy/paste) this in a term...  ls /usr/share/doc/libdvd and hit tab twice... here's mine, -> $ ls /usr/share/doc/libdvd      libdvdnav4/  libdvdread3/
[01:58] <jrib> adante: pastebin what you are doing
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> speedxxxcore:  i would doubt it.  I run linux in vbox all the time.  You would lose the 3d/some hardware optmiations  basically
[01:59] <InitHello> speedxxxcore: I'm running a linux in a virtualbox right now, with no issues
[02:00] <k0nane> As posted several times: two sound cards, both snd-hda-intel, how to disable one?
[02:00] <ZanQdo> oh yes I solved it
[02:00] <n-iCe> !ask | n-iCe
[02:00] <ZanQdo> and also solved shoppy video playback :D
[02:00] <speedxxxcore> Dr_Willis: InitHello: thanx, that is all I needed
[02:00] <Random832> MTecknology: if you figure out anything msg me, i need to go for a bit
[02:01] <InitHello> speedxxxcore: my pleasure
[02:01] <MTecknology> Random832: I need the pastebin first...
[02:01] <Orpheus> Excuse me, would anyone know why adobe won't let me save entered information in an editible .pdf file?
[02:01] <MTecknology> I see it now..
[02:02] <k0nane> Orpheus: top-of-head, because it's meant to be printed, not resaved?
[02:02] <tommy_> hello yes i need a screen recorder on xubuntu
[02:02] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  here's the output,   libdvdcss2/      libdvdnav4       libdvdread4
[02:02] <tommy_> hello yes i need a screen recorder on xubuntu
[02:02] <LuisJa> Oh comeon people, no one of you have been able to help me with this issue  -_-, i need the help: i did a reinstalation of kubuntu, but i used 64amd instead, now runescape lags as hell at everymoment, and cannot use HD, i am thinking of reinstallation, its that the only solution?!
[02:02] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  here's the output,   libdvdcss2/      libdvdnav4/       libdvdread4/
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> !info recordmydesktop
[02:02] <MTecknology> Random832: I'm surprised that setup works - grub came a long way - you'll need to boot to a live cd, then resize the partitions from that
[02:02] <k0nane> Orpheus: My first hack would be fill in the info and print with PDFCreator.
[02:03] <gh0st_> hello, im currently using ubuntu 9.04 and was wonder why when i copy multiple things, gnome refuses to list anything in any directory. its resposive, but kinda not. everything lists fine in the terminal, i thing its a ram issue as for some reason (Which i would kill to fix) its caching 72% of my ram! thats nuts! use swap! i have 2gbs. i cant do anything while im copying please help :)
[02:03] <Dr_Willis> tommy_:  check packatge manager for 'recordmydesktop'
[02:03] <tommy_> thank you
[02:03] <k0nane> gh0st_: Sounds to me like your hard drive is going by the wayside.
[02:04] <gh0st_> k0nane: My HDD is brand new, i just bought it yesterday
[02:04] <k0nane> gh0st_: Have you tried different scenarios? i.e. flash drive to HD, HD to flash drive
[02:04] <k0nane> gh0st_: DOAs happen, it's a possibility. =)
[02:04] <Orpheus> k0nane - will printing with pdf creator save the field though?  I want an electronic copy so I can send it via email...
[02:04] <k0nane> Orpheus: If you fill it in and print, the field contents will show up.
[02:05] <Mike_lifeguard> Where does ubuntu put the system-wide cgi-bin directory?
[02:05] <gh0st_> K0ane: Yes, i have, ive had this problem before, where i had to execute a command to drop all caches when im running server stuff
[02:05] <phantomcircuit> I have a usb keyboard that has a multimedia Mute button on it
[02:05] <tommy_> hello ya i have xubuntu and it doesn't  have recordmydesktop
[02:05] <gh0st_> i know its not DOA, as ive ran fsck and health checks, the drive is great :)
[02:05] <k0nane> Mike_lifeguard: Are you running a webserver?
[02:06] <Manifest> Anyone know how to tether a palm pre to Ubuntu?
[02:06] <tommy_> hello ya i have xubuntu and it doesn't  have recordmydesktop
[02:06] <phantomcircuit> it mutes fine and it unmutes fine, but whenever i unmute the volume is set to zero
[02:06] <Mike_lifeguard> k0nane: I will be
[02:06] <tommy_> hello ya i have xubuntu and it doesn't  have recordmydesktop
[02:06] <k0nane> gh0st_: Okay. So this happened before you replaced the drive? Sounds like controller.
[02:06] <Orpheus> k0nane - like i said, i dont care whether or not it prints - i want to save the entered version as a new pdf file itself... i am able to do this on my windows partition, and was wondering if you knew why i seem to be unable to on my ubuntu one.
[02:06] <IdleOne> tommy_: install it
[02:06] <Mike_lifeguard> !repeat | tommy_
[02:06] <mo0nykit> How do I make gedit automatically wrap text according to the margin?
[02:06] <k0nane> Orpheus: That'
[02:06] <SeaPhor> youngblood, type this,,,    cd /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/
[02:06] <Mike_lifeguard> tommy_: please double-check you have the right repositories enabled
[02:06] <k0nane> Orpheus: That's what I meant - printing to PDFCreator will give you the new PDF with the fields filled in.
[02:07] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  I also have this same output on my other laptop.    libdvdcss2/      libdvdnav4/       libdvdread4/
[02:07] <Purpley1> libosgParticle.so.61 it says i need that how do i get it
[02:07] <k0nane> Mike_lifeguard: cgi_bin's location depends all on how you configure your webserver.
[02:07] <SeaPhor> youngblood, type this,,,    cd /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/
[02:07] <Manifest> Anyone know how to tether a palm pre to Ubuntu?
[02:07] <gh0st_> K0ane: it might not be what your talking about (not sure) but ive tried several SATA ports, even then, the use of trying flash to flash, should rule that out, would it not?
[02:07] <phantomcircuit> ./auth.log:Oct  8 18:22:11 patrick-laptop dbus-daemon: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.31" (uid=1000 pid=3753 comm="/u
[02:07] <phantomcircuit> sr/lib/indicator-applet/indicator-applet --oaf-a") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="Get" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destinatio
[02:07] <phantomcircuit> n=":1.27" (uid=1000 pid=3734 comm="/usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor "))
[02:07] <phantomcircuit> oops
[02:07] <tommy_> ya but i have xubuntu and tht doesnt have package manager
[02:07] <FloodBot1> phantomcircuit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:07] <Manifest> Anyone know how to tether a palm pre to Ubuntu?
[02:07] <phantomcircuit> my bad
[02:07] <LjL> !ops | li1o
[02:07] <Purpley1> libosgParticle.so.61 it says i need that how do i get it
[02:08] <Orpheus> k0nane - mk
[02:08] <tommy_> ya but i have xubuntu and tht doesnt have package manager
[02:08] <k0nane> Orpheus: Sorry I don't have a better fix for Adobe, but I hate Reader on any platform and switched to Foxit on Windows a loooong time ago.
[02:09] <InitHello> tommy_: you could always use a command-line package manager, like aptitude
[02:09] <Purpley1> i need libosgParticle.so.61 how do I get that guys?
[02:09] <gh0st_> K0ane: it might not be what your talking about (not sure) but ive tried several SATA ports, even then, the use of trying flash to flash, should rule that out, would it not?
[02:09] <DaZ> Purpley1: search for a package containing it ;f
[02:09] <Bilge> Foxit displays PDFs like goatse
[02:09] <Purpley1> I did
[02:09] <Purpley1> I didnt find anything
[02:09] <DaZ> and?
[02:09] <DaZ> eh ;f
[02:09] <Purpley1> i searched libosg
[02:09] <Purpley1> i have all that stuff installed
[02:09] <tommy_> yes put what do i type in the terminal to get record my desktop
[02:10] <Manifest> Anyone know how to tether a palm pre to Ubuntu?
[02:10] <gh0st_> tommy_: try the man pages
[02:10] <k0nane> gh0st_: It could should. If the SATA ports are all on your mobo or RAID card, then no it's not quite the same.
[02:10] <fccf> Manifest: my understanding is there is a tether app for the pre ... ubuntu should be able to pick up that connection
[02:10] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  do you want me to run apr-get install install-css.sh?
[02:10] <DaZ> Purpley1: google says it's part of the open scene graph
[02:11] <k0nane> gh0st_: That eliminates single ports, but it could be that your mobo's SATA controller is busted.
[02:11] <Manifest> fccf: how do you get this app?
[02:11] <Purpley1> how does one install that
[02:11] <SeaPhor> youngblood, type ls
[02:11] <LogicFan> how do you change into directories with special characters like (
[02:11] <IdleOne> gh0st_: try the man pages is like saying RTFM. not helpful at all
[02:11] <gh0st_> K0ane: all sata ports are on my mobo, but flash card to flash card shouldnt matter because its a different controller, isnt it?
[02:11] <Purpley1> DaZ Im being retarded because i installed this stuff
[02:11] <LogicFan> escaping with \ doesn't seem to work
[02:11] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  i did.
[02:11] <Purpley1> and
[02:11] <fccf> Manifest: http://mytether.net/ They want $15 for it
[02:11] <Purpley1> I want to make sure I dont mess up again
[02:11] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  do you want me to run apt-get install install-css.sh?
[02:11] <k0nane> gh0st_: Yes, USB is separate. Have you tried copying while in a LiveCD?
[02:12] <Manifest> fccf: yeah, if I wanted to pay I'd get a mobile broadband card...thanks
[02:12] <SeaPhor> youngblood, type ls ,, if its there... type    sudo ./install-css.sh
[02:12] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  ok
[02:12] <SeaPhor> no youngblood ,,, sudo ./install-css.sh
[02:12] <Purpley1> how does one install openscenegrapjh
[02:12] <Sorell> hey guys I'm using 9.04 and I have a question about the wacom bamboo pen
[02:12] <fccf> Manifest: if you didn't want to pay ... You should have gotten a android, it runs linux
[02:12] <Purpley1> graph
[02:12] <k0nane> Sorell: ask away
[02:12] <gh0st_> IdleOne: i apologize if it was taken that way, sincerly, man pages just honestly really helped me out when i was i new user, just recommending a new resource, thats all :)
[02:12] <r3dhat> does anyone know why my volume in ubuntu 8.10 would be very low even when the volume in alsamixer as well as the volume control is turned up to 100%?
[02:12] <Manifest> fccf: I prefer a decent phone.
[02:12] <IdleOne> Purpley1: sudo apt-get install package name
[02:13] <Sorell> does any one know about any drivers I need to get for the thing to work?
[02:13] <Purpley1> Idle
[02:13] <Purpley1> OpenSceneGraph isnt valid
[02:13] <IdleOne> Purpley1: no caps
[02:13] <k0nane> Sorell: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAkQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FWacom&ei=KNTTSpPMJYrQ8Qaj4-SNDQ&rct=j&q=wacom+bamboo+ubuntu+9.04&usg=AFQjCNGTICZ6Mw87FacAh_En6LXNX0vYbg
[02:13] <IdleOne> openscenegraph
[02:13] <gh0st_> K0ane: No, i havn't tried that, ill try that out. what are the dangers of syncing the caches and the dropping them during a file copy?
[02:13] <slush> tommy, have you figured out how to install record my desktop
[02:13] <Purpley1> Still didnt fix my error message
[02:13] <SeaPhor> youngblood, then,,, type...  sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload
[02:13] <Tyrus> anyone know of a graphical ps tool ?   I want to be able to view my own processes and kill them easily.  I use wine for playing a couple games and it needs to be killed every now and then
[02:14] <k0nane> gh0st_: You may lose the file. I'm not sure beyond that.
[02:14] <Sorell> k0nane: ty
[02:14] <r3dhat> k0nane: I got it working...I had to compile the open source atii drivers
[02:14] <Purpley1> fgrun: error while loading shared libraries: libosgParticle.so.61: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:14] <Purpley1> How do i fix it
[02:14] <r3dhat> ati*
[02:14] <gh0st_> K0nane: Thanks for the time, appreciate it, i will further diagnose this issue
[02:14] <k0nane> gh0st_: No problem.
[02:15] <Purpley1> fgrun: error while loading shared libraries: libosgParticle.so.61: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:15] <Purpley1> How do i fix it
[02:16] <fccf> Manifest: Perhaps you should have read the Sprint Product Launch Report - "The Pre is not intended for IT centric business"
[02:16] <slush> tommy_:  sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop
[02:16] <tommy_> already did that
[02:16] <Manifest> fccf: that's great, it's personal, not business
[02:16] <tommy_> got correctly
[02:16] <IdleOne> Purpley1: install libosgcal-dev
[02:16] <tommy_> but i can tfind it
[02:16] <gbear14275> Hello.  I have a headless 9.04 server and am trying to manage VM's on it using virt-manager from my laptop.  Its prompting for a root account password but I have disabled password logins to the headless machine in favor of using keys.  Is there a way I can have virt-manager login using a different account... or what is the proper process for enabling the root account if necessary?
[02:17] <slush> at terminal just type recordmydesktop
[02:17] <Shawn-> SO a proxy server is something that is used to bypass firewalls etc to view webpages... Is there anyway to set up my Home computer (using Ubuntu) as a Proxy server so I can access restricted pages from my laptop (also on Ubuntu)
[02:17] <IdleOne> Purpley1: and libosgal-dev while your at it. not sure which one you need but it's one of those probably
[02:17] <Purpley1> I already did that
[02:17] <rpj8> Shawn-: I don't know if you understand what a proxy is
[02:17] <slush> or you can use the help flag,  recordmydesktop -help
[02:17] <Shawn-> rpj8 Me either
[02:17] <tommy_> o ok i got it to run from terminal
[02:17] <slush> :)
[02:17] <rpj8> Shawn-: :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server
[02:17] <tommy_> but how do i stop it then save it
[02:17] <Purpley1> IdleOne, I installed it
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> Shawn-: Depends.  Define "restricted" in your question.
[02:17] <DaZ> Purpley1: symlink
[02:18] <Shawn-> tonyyarusso Blocked by my school's network
[02:18] <slush> use the help flag and it should explain how to use itr
[02:18] <IdleOne> Purpley1: DaZ seems to have an idea
[02:18] <rpj8> Shawn-: actually.
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> Shawn-: Then yes.
[02:18] <Purpley1> DaZ - Dosen't exist
[02:18] <rpj8> Shawn-: If you're remoting to home
[02:18]  * DaZ does exist
[02:18] <slush> or you can just type something like 'recordmydesktop -width 450 -height 300 -delay 10 -o sample.ogv'
[02:18] <Shawn-> rpj8 I was actually just reading that wiki thing before I asked
[02:18] <rpj8> Shawn-: sorry. For some reasonI thought both machines were at yoru house or something.
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> Shawn-: You can do it with Squid, polipo, or an SSH tunnel.
[02:18] <rpj8> Shawn-: my b.
[02:18] <DaZ> Purpley1: theres libosgparticle something in libopenscenegraph package
[02:18] <InitHello> Shawn-: easiest way would probably be to run privoxy on your home computer
[02:19] <Shawn-> InitHello Would my home computer have to be dedicated to doing this?
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> Shawn-: no
[02:19] <Purpley1> Package libopenscenegraph is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:19] <Purpley1> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:19] <Purpley1> is only available from another source
[02:19] <Purpley1> E: Package libopenscenegraph has no installation candidate
[02:19] <InitHello> Shawn-: nah, privoxy doesn't take much resources
[02:19] <FloodBot1> Purpley1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:19] <Shawn-> InitHello Is it difficult to set up?
[02:19] <tommy_> hello how can i open record my desktop without opening it using terminal
[02:19] <InitHello> Shawn-: it worked out of the box for me, if memory serves
[02:19] <DaZ> Purpley1: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/openscenegraph
[02:19] <Shawn-> InitHello Is it in the repos?
[02:20] <InitHello> Shawn-: yes, I believe the package name is privoxy
[02:20] <DaZ> damn, my fault
[02:20] <DaZ> it wasn't lib :f
[02:20] <Shawn-> InitHello and this will let me bypass their web restrictions right?
[02:20] <k0nane> gbear14275: "X-forwarding and sudo aren't the best of friends", so if that applies I'd say alternate accounts aren't a good option.
[02:20] <phantomcircuit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/292006/
[02:20] <InitHello> Shawn-: assuming they haven't blocked outgoing connections to for example port 8888, yes
[02:20] <Purpley1> Still didn't qwork
[02:20]  * Purpley1 cries
[02:21] <k0nane> gbear14275: Are you logging in to any account other than root with keys only?
[02:21] <tommy_> hello how can i open record my desktop without opening it using terminal
[02:21] <DaZ> Purpley1: symlink? :f
[02:21] <Purpley1> whats symlink
[02:21] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  I got a lot of errors telling me certain module could not stat. Is this normal?
[02:21] <phantomcircuit> part of the error is being cut off in the middle of the line
[02:21] <phantomcircuit> "/usr/lib/indicator-applet/indicator-applet --oaf-a"
[02:21] <DaZ> something like shortcut
[02:21] <DaZ> but more 1337
[02:21] <phantomcircuit> is an incomplete command
[02:21] <gbear14275> k0nane: yes... I have disabled password login using the sshd config file
[02:21] <Purpley1> I need info on how to do this lol
[02:21] <Purpley1> Ive did one of those before DaZ
[02:21] <SeaPhor> youngblood, after what cmd did you get the errors?
[02:21] <IdleOne> !symlink > Purpley1
[02:21] <Purpley1> I forget what its called though
[02:22] <slush> tommy : you need to install the frontend for that
[02:22] <slush> sudo apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop
[02:22] <k0nane> gbear14275: Right, I got that... To rephrase: how many other accounts do you have, and log into, that aren't root?
[02:22] <Purpley1> Idle
[02:22] <Shawn-> InitHello, Where does privoxy install by default I cant figure out where to open it xD
[02:22] <gbear14275> k0nane: I am hoping I don't have to setup the root account on the headless machine... but realize I might have to as I'm kind of a beginner... only transitioned to linux about december last year
[02:22] <Purpley1> Srsly? I know bash I dont wan't to read a whole tut
[02:22] <DaZ> Purpley1: i was wrong again, it's actually in libopenscenegraph-dev ;f
[02:22] <themhz> good night all
[02:22] <gbear14275> k0nane: I have 1 other... and I setup one for my roomate
[02:22] <DaZ> it's 3am here
[02:23] <IdleOne> Purpley1: sorry for trying to help, I'll go back to my own thing
[02:23] <gbear14275> k0nane: so right now only 2 accounts on the box
[02:23] <Polk330> That didnt help.. Is there a native Ubuntu Program that will work with an ipod touch?
[02:23] <themhz> 4:22 in greece
[02:23] <themhz> :P
[02:23] <InitHello> Shawn-: it runs as a daemon at system startup, by default
[02:23] <SeaPhor> youngblood, after  sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload ?
[02:23] <Purpley1> Still the same error message
[02:23] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload
[02:23] <DaZ> Purpley1: if it doesn't work with -dev package do sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libosgParticle.so /usr/lib/libosgParticle.so.61
[02:23] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  yes
[02:23] <Shawn-> InitHello.... Oh so that means its running now that its installed... Great but now how do I set up my laptop to use it? xD
[02:23] <InitHello> Shawn-: ooh ... do you have a static IP at home?
[02:23] <tommy_> hello how can i open record my desktop without opening it using terminal
[02:23] <k0nane> gbear14275: Okay. If it's desktop Ubuntu, yes, you'll have to enable root, but if I had to guess, I'd say you could keep key-only SSH and still use virt-manager, as long as you can log in as root.
[02:23] <RegressLess> How can I change my default processor speed. It's running at 800 Mhz rather than 1.6 Ghz
[02:24] <Purpley1> now
[02:24] <Purpley1> I get this libosgSim.so.61
[02:24] <Shawn-> InitHello I think I need to set one up still... I had one before I reinstalled Ubuntu
[02:24] <Bluey> tommy_ create a launcher
[02:24] <DaZ> Purpley1: do it with libosgsim :f
[02:24] <SeaPhor> ok,,, youngblood but you did see the ./install.... doing something?
[02:24] <Purpley1> Oh i see what to do
[02:24] <slush> tommy, you need to install the frontent
[02:24] <slush> sudo apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop
[02:25] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  well, the screen ran by with a bunch of output.
[02:25] <gbear14275> k0nane: its ubuntu-server that I'm trying to log into... but was hoping to avoid using root on that too
[02:25] <SeaPhor> ok youngblood ,,, try a dvd
[02:25] <InitHello> Shawn-: well, static IPs and/or dyndns services are beyond the scope of this channel, but what you want to do is tell your browser to use your home IP and port (search /etc/privoxy/config for 'listen-address' to find the port) as a proxy
[02:25] <tommy_> ya but how do i stop it
[02:25] <k0nane> gbear14275: Oh. Root should be enabled by default, in that case. I don't see any reason why to avoid it, if you don't run things that don't need to be root as root.
[02:26] <tommy_> FROM RECORDING
[02:26] <Shawn-> InitHello you cant help me do it in a Private chat?
[02:26] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  I did, I get the same error.   it's look for libdvdcss.
[02:26] <InitHello> Shawn-: sure
[02:26] <k0nane> gbear14275: Running virt-manager through another user with sudo would be running it as root anyway, in a roundabout way.
[02:26] <kiwibg> howdy...
[02:26] <slush> recordmydesktop –help
[02:26] <tommy_> HOW DO I STOP IT FROM RECORDING
[02:26] <Xcell> lol
[02:26] <RegressLess> How can I change my default processor speed? It's running at 800 MHz rather than 1.6 GHz. I'm trying to solve all my issues tonight. :P
[02:26] <carpediem> tommy_ just click the icon in the tooltray
[02:27] <slush> you can find the user manual here http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/rug/toc.php
[02:27] <k0nane> RegressLess: Disable SpeedStep/whatever AMD has.
[02:27] <SeaPhor> youngblood, try   sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload  again
[02:27] <Xcell> pkill <pgm name>
[02:27] <tommy_> THERES NO ICON
[02:27] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  ok
[02:27] <slush> go read the manual
[02:27] <tommy_> MYBE BECUSE IM USING XUBUNTU
[02:27] <IdleOne> tommy_: caps off please
[02:27] <carpediem> yes, PLEASE
[02:27] <k0nane> CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR FAIL
[02:28] <RegressLess> k0nane: eh? It's an intell and I don't follow ya.
[02:28] <kiwibg> The 9.10 installer just closes when it gets to "starting up partitioner" right after pressing "Install" at the last step... Has anyone seen this happen before? It's odd because the installer in 9.04 doesn't give me that issue
[02:28] <musikgoat> k0nane: that's not helping
[02:28] <k0nane> RegressLess: Disable SpeedStep in the BIOS, then.
[02:28] <Omlette> !caps > tommy_
[02:28] <k0nane> musikgoat: I know.
[02:28] <tommy_> ya
[02:28] <durt> kiwibg, #ubuntu+1 please.
[02:28] <tommy_> its off
[02:28] <InitHello> k0nane: so true (re. caps lock)
[02:29] <slush> cntrl+alt+s will stop it from recording
[02:29] <gbear14275> k0nane: alright... didn't realize root was enabled by default on server
[02:29] <gbear14275> thanks
[02:29] <absolutepressure> I'm having problems with a proper data dvd burn
[02:29] <kiwibg> durt: sorry about that, this webirc thing makes the topic really tiny
[02:29] <Bluey> absolutepressure: what programme ru using to burn?
[02:30] <absolutepressure> Bluey: brasero
[02:30] <Bluey> absolutepressure: sorry not familiar with that -- I am fam. with k3b and nero.
[02:30] <absolutepressure> Bluey: k, well I tried it with nero too
[02:30] <IdleOne> absolutepressure: you can try gnomebaker
[02:30] <gbear14275> k0nane: where would I put an ssh key for root user as they don't appear to have a homedir
[02:31] <Purpley1> omfg
[02:31] <Purpley1> I need halp now :(
[02:31] <DaZ> ?
[02:31] <k0nane> gbear14275: Root's home is /root
[02:31] <Purpley1> fgrun: error while loading shared libraries: libosgGA.so.61: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:31] <Purpley1> I cant make a proper sym link
[02:31] <Bluey> absolutepressure: I can help with nero - private message ok?
[02:31] <DaZ> Purpley1: why?
[02:31] <musikgoat> !ohmy | Purpley1
[02:31] <gbear14275> k0nane: my bad... thnaks
[02:31] <Purpley1> i dont know
[02:31] <DaZ> ...
[02:31] <k0nane> gbear14275: No worries. =)
[02:31] <Purpley1> DaZ
[02:32] <Purpley1> No error message its just I can't seem to type it out correctly
[02:32] <Purpley1> halp please :)
[02:32] <DaZ> !tab | Purpley1
[02:32] <k0nane> ln -s [newname] [oldname]
[02:32] <tommy_> so basicly your telling me that i cant stop me from recording theres no icon i created a launcher and now i cant stop the recording
[02:32] <akn> how do i go into different rooms
[02:32] <akn> like just for alsabase?
[02:32] <alteregox> why the hell i want to disable this stupid password dialogue
[02:32] <slush> i told you how to stop it
[02:33] <eido> is anyone familiar with ftp?  i wanted to create a folder with sub folders for each user and give them full access to only their folder but do not see how to do this.
[02:33] <alteregox> its annoying, anytime i do something i have to enter a stupid password
[02:33] <tommy_> how
[02:33] <slush> control + left alt key + S
[02:33] <k0nane> Eido: Which daemon are you using?
[02:33] <alteregox> if i want to lock the machine i could lock the machine
[02:33] <tommy_> omg thank you
[02:33] <slush> welcome
[02:33] <eido> akn, on irc? /join #channel-name
[02:33] <alteregox> not with those dumb password anoying crap
[02:33] <eido> k0nane, vsftp
[02:33] <Xcell> tommy_-    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=294605
[02:34] <eido> k0nane, i was hoping to have just one main folder instead of everyone being in their ~ directory
[02:35] <k0nane> Eido: The best way, I would say, is create a folder, create the subfolders for each user, chmod each subfolder for each user, and go from there. As for configuring vsftpd, Google 'vsftpd admin'. I use ProFTPD with MySQL virtual users.
[02:36] <RegressLess> k0nane: yeeeeaaah... I don't see that option. Under CPU Configuration, I have one option: "Max CPUID Value Set <Enabled>". Perhaps I should mention it's an EeePC with the array.org kernel. I'll try searching array.org.
[02:36] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  I tried the command again and rebooted the system. Then I tried playing a dvd. same error message. Why can I see libdvdcss in synaptics on one labtop, where dvds play okay, but not on the laptop that I'm having problems on?
[02:36] <ynk>  is there a way to get system resources back after much youtubing, video playing, using memory intensive programs..? i would like to avoid a restart as much as the next user...
[02:36] <Purpley1> WOOT I FIXED IT I LOVE YOU DaZ
[02:37] <k0nane> RegressLess: Similar issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7910689
[02:37]  * Purpley1 gives a bear hug to DaZ
[02:37] <DaZ> Purpley1: i hope you're a woman :f
[02:37] <eido> k0nane, i just setup vsftp and turned off anon and tried to connect which brought me  to my folder but i could also navigate through the whole system.
[02:37] <k0nane> Eido: Are you opposed to switching daemons?
[02:37] <SeaPhor> youngblood, i'd check the mfg for firmware update first,,, then i'd check the logs for what the install errors were
[02:37] <eido> k0nane, i guess not
[02:38] <alteregox> i switch back to windows, its to stupid this OS, and those changes everytime!
[02:38] <eido> it just seemed vsftp was a defacto
[02:38] <slavik> proftpd > vsftp and scp > *
[02:38] <youngblood> SeaPhor,  ok - thanks for your help.
[02:38] <k0nane> eido: Run through this. http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-hosting-with-proftpd-and-mysql-ubuntu-8.04-p2
[02:38] <slavik> alteregox: what changes?
[02:38] <IdleOne> alteregox: your choice
[02:39] <alteregox> those changes in every release
[02:39] <k0nane> eido: If you've got Apache/etc. configured with PHP and MySQL, there's a good admin panel as well.
[02:39] <alteregox> network manager and whaetver
[02:39] <slavik> alteregox: err?
[02:39] <alteregox> they should not change the GUI, just change the code behind, its freaking wierd
[02:39] <slavik> alteregox: with every release network manager becomes better and better
[02:39] <alteregox> yeah i can wait forever
[02:39] <slavik> alteregox: how was NM gui changed? I don't recall any changes ...
[02:39] <k0nane> eido: Or, at least, there should be.
[02:40] <alteregox> make a native network manager without gtk crap and such underlying bullseet
[02:40] <slavik> native network manager?
[02:40] <slavik> huh?
[02:40] <alteregox> is that so complicated, yeah without gtk and those slowass crap
[02:40] <k0nane> -I- actually use PureFTPd. Oops. But ProFTPd is tops.
[02:40] <slavik> you can get rid of NM and edit /etc/network/interfaces, that will work
[02:40] <alteregox> write it in pure C!
[02:40] <slavik> gtk is written in C
[02:40] <alteregox> edit is crap
[02:40] <alteregox> edit textfiles?
[02:41] <alteregox> today we use GUI
[02:41] <DaZ> alteregox: get windows
[02:41] <eido> yes good old windows crypto API nothing beats it, they never will change that
[02:41] <alteregox> yeah, thats why linux never get success on the mainstream
[02:41] <alteregox> the arrogance of the linux developers
[02:41] <k0nane> eido: Pure's guide is here http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual-hosting-with-pureftpd-and-mysql-ubuntu-7.10 and the user manager here: http://freshmeat.net/projects/usermanager_pureftpd/
[02:41] <slavik> alteregox: I see ... your choice, have fun
[02:42] <eido> k0nane, thanks ill check those out
[02:42] <alteregox> yeah i have no time to edit textfiles and stuff, i had that in the 80s and early 90s with DOS
[02:42] <RegressLess> k0nane: the eepc bios are pretty different than normal bios. I've been all over'em and there is no SpeedStep, which is the only suggestion given in that thread. It is an an Atom. It's probably the special kernel from array.org.
[02:43] <k0nane> RegressLess: I suppose so.
[02:43] <alteregox> i get MacOS, the best OS
[02:43] <k0nane> RegressLess: Regardless, it -is- related to power management. =P
[02:43] <funkyHat> Guys, this is a support channel, not a debate channel
[02:43] <SeaPhor> trolls, hmpf... they have more time than brains
[02:43]  * Dr_Willis recalls having to alter many a text file on windows.. but  you proberly wan tto take it to some other channel alteregox .
[02:43] <RegressLess> k0nane: fair enough
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> SeaPhor:  ++1 to that.
[02:44] <SeaPhor> !best | alteregox
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> His OS-X box couldent take the strain
[02:45] <tarelerulz> I am using Brasero to burn 4.4 dvd iso and the time keeps going up for creating image checksum . It at 3 minuets and 30 seconds .  How long should that take ?
[02:45] <kiwibg> tarelerulz: how fast is your computer?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> tarelerulz:  it depends on your cpu/drive speeds. but making a checksup for a 4+gb file - can take a bit of time. Id say less then 10 min.
[02:46] <tommy_> ok now where does the recorded file save at
[02:46]  * SeaPhor is a "troll-killer" !!
[02:47] <tarelerulz> both cpu are 1.46GHz and 4 gb of ram
[02:47] <slush> in your home directory under out.ogg
[02:48] <tommy_> ok now whereof finaly know how to use good thank you
[02:48] <k0nane> As posted several times: two sound cards, both snd-hda-intel, how to disable one?
[02:48] <tarelerulz> Slush what you doing with an out.ogg? recording the sound card or something
[02:49] <k0nane> tarelerulz: Ogg Theora is a video format.
[02:49] <slush> he was asking where recordmydesktop default save directory is
[02:49] <ShapeShifter499> is  there a version of global menu for  powerpc ubuntu?
[02:50] <alteregoa> ballmer is great
[02:50] <tarelerulz> correction ogg is container format which can hold both video and audio or just audio or just video .
[02:50] <slush> thank you for clarifying
[02:50] <Guest17258> I did install ccsm for thr cubic effect but its showing me this error
[02:50] <Guest17258> Reading state information...
[02:50] <Guest17258> Done
[02:50] <Guest17258> E: Couldn't find package compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:51] <FloodBot1> Guest17258: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:51] <k0nane> tarelerulz: Correct, and Theora is the video portion.
[02:51] <SeaPhor> like mal-ware,,,, it renames itself and restarts itself,,,, trolls=trash
[02:51] <tarelerulz> K0nane , can ogg hold subtitles too ?
[02:52] <k0nane> tarelerulz: Yes.
[02:52] <LG-LG> How do i install the cubic effect for ubuntu?
[02:53] <k0nane> LG-LG: The desktop cube?
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> !cube | LG-LG
[02:53]  * Dr_Willis is sick of the cube
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> The 'cube' belongs along side 'all your base are belong to us'
[02:53] <LG-LG> ok
[02:53] <LG-LG> Thanks
[02:53] <alteregoa> i still ask me what kind of kid needs those eyecandy buggyfects
[02:54] <LG-LG> k0nane : Yes
[02:54] <slush> metacity +1
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> I use the 'zoom' feature of compiz and a few other features.
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> previews and zoom, and that ADHD mode is handy at times
[02:54] <alteregoa> i use a eyeglass
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> alteregoa:  then theres the X-ray-eyeglasses that let you see through clotheing on images on web sites.....
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> alteregoa:  :)
[02:55] <alteregoa> yeah i always used it
[02:55] <prince_jammys> i'd like to turn my cursor into a pirate ship, and have windows explode upon closing
[02:55] <k0nane> prince_jammys: You can already have windows burn closed.
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> 1I do tend to always use the  Previews on panel.. feature..  thats about the only real compiz feature i find thats a feature.
[02:55] <DigitalKiwi> prince_jammys: lawl
[02:56] <prince_jammys> k0nane: cool. i'll switch to compiz when they implement the Pirate Ship effect.
[02:56] <c0l2e> how can I use the smb.conf  recycle:exclude_dir with this example that will exclude a folder called  /home/username/temp ??
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> use the Compiz Flame feature to write  notes on the monitor
[02:56] <Jordan_U> prince_jammys: You can have them explode ( see animations in ccsm ), but with the pirate ship cursor you should really go with bursting into flames
[02:56] <Xcell> lol.. whats the pirate ship effect
[02:56] <Jordan_U> prince_jammys: You can change your curser to whatever you want
[02:57] <k0nane> prince_jammys: Standard FOSS answer: write it yourself.
[02:57] <prince_jammys> well, crap, i was kidding. Didn't know it already existed.
[02:57] <Xcell> lol
[02:57] <LG-LG> How do i  install the cube effect?
[02:57] <Xcell> mine has 3 turbo settings
[02:57] <LG-LG> And use the flip?
[02:57] <RegressLess1> Is there a way to change a panel applet's default settings (referring to emifreq-applet)
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> LG-LG:  get compiz going.. insstall the 'ccsm' tool and start playing with all the effects/settings
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | LG-LG
[02:58] <Xcell> LG-LG-  install compiz settings mngr.. and open it and chose desktop cube and rotate cube
[02:59] <n-iCe> how do I reconfigure locales to set ISO as default ant not use UTF-8 ?
[02:59] <Jordan_U> prince_jammys: I would also go with a transparent cube with whales swimming in it
[02:59] <alteregoa> export something
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> LG-LG:  of course you need to set your # of desktops to '4' for a cube. :)  or set it to 12 for a dechadron. :)
[02:59] <LG-LG> !compiz
[02:59] <alteregoa> !locale
[02:59] <LG-LG> brb
[02:59] <n-iCe> thanks
[02:59] <LG-LG> Thanks
[02:59] <prince_jammys> Jordan_U: now you're talking.
[03:00] <zaadjis> hi. need help with karmic beta: after boot goes to promt and starts to flicker (can't login - keyboard semi-responsive).
[03:00] <Xcell> how about those old home movies?
[03:00] <Random832> Dr_Willis: wait, doesn't a cube have six sides?
[03:00] <k0nane> zaadjis: #ubuntu+1
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Random832:  top and bottom are not useable sides for desktops
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Random832:  those are just endcaps. :)
[03:00] <RegressLess1> how do I go to "irc.oftc.net"?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Random832:  how about the INSIDES? :) thats more then 6
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> RegressLess1:  /server servername
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> RegressLess1:  is one way.
[03:01] <Random832> what if i want desktops on the top and bottom? why not?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Random832:  then you do without.
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> It maps the 4+ desktops in a row. to the sides of the 'solid' and renders themthat way
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> its just an effect. :)
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> If you used the top/bottom then you could accidently flip your desktop upside down. :)
[03:02] <Xcell> its not gravity fed
[03:03] <RegressLess1> Dr_Willis: I guess I'm doing it wrong.
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> RegressLess1:  when in doubt read the docs for your irc client.
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> or use a real irc client. not an IM client that just has some limited irc features
[03:04] <RegressLess1> Dr_Willis: that's my favorite answer. I'm using Pidgin which is awesome, tyvm.
[03:05] <k0nane> RegressLess1: Pidgin rules, but serious, XChat for IRC.
[03:05] <k0nane> seriously*
[03:05] <nes> hi
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> I found pidgins irc features severely lacking..
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> for pidgin - youmake a new connection.. and do it the pidgin way
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> not the 'irc' way :)
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[03:07] <intruder1> is it me or ext2,3,4 are more gentle on harddrives than NTFS ? The answer i am really seeking is, "this xxx filesystem gives your harddrive a longer lifespan"
[03:08] <thedude42> intruder1, no such animal
[03:08] <intruder1> i've seen a lot of data corrupted on windows install, is it because i only have windows customers ?
[03:08] <thedude42> intruder1, though I do think that windows disk i/o sucks
[03:09] <Jordan_U> intruder1: Less fragmentation means less seeking, thus less noise from the drive but not likely any affect on lifespan
[03:09] <grturner> intruder1, hd life span is decided in a given number of spin ups,
[03:09] <alteregoa> fragmentation?
[03:09] <alteregoa> that doesnt really matter in real life
[03:09] <sebsebseb> intruder1: yes Linux file systems are better than Windows file systems
[03:09] <thedude42> intruder1, yeah probably... I've seen plenty of data corruption in linux as well.... but I worked with large computational clusters
[03:09] <sebsebseb> !defrag |  alteregoa  intruder1
[03:09] <alteregoa> ok ext2 is better than ntfs LOL
[03:10] <intruder1> sebsebseb: thank you! :)
[03:10] <alteregoa> a ext3 defrags too, less than ntfs, but its not much better, any FS fragments, thats natural
[03:10] <sebsebseb> alteregoa: yes I expect it is, even though now days most use Ext3 for Linux installs, but soon that will be Ext4 instead,  plus 9.10 gets Ext4 by default, not for Ext3 9.04  upgrades though
[03:11] <alteregoa> yeah ext4 allows sparse files, ntfs has sparse since 2000 by default
[03:11] <intruder1> so having a fragmented installation leads of shorter hd lifespan ?
[03:11] <alteregoa> but you can't defrag ext4, because its not in the distro of ubuntu! LOL
[03:11] <sebsebseb> intruder1: I don't know, but  Linux file systems are better than Windows file systems :)
[03:11] <IdleOne> alteregoa: windows is just awesome and spectacular and we are all so happy you are enamered with it.
[03:11] <Jordan_U> intruder1: No, just might be why you had an impression that it was "softer" on drives
[03:11] <alteregoa> sebsebseb: no, they are not better, they are different
[03:12] <thedude42> intruder1, generally the lifespan of a hdd is determined by :1) use 2) trauma 3) average MTBF
[03:12] <intruder1> MTBF ?
[03:12] <alteregoa> mean time before failure
[03:13] <intruder1> and this value is determined by ?
[03:13] <sebsebseb> alteregoa: Well  generally  the  opensource/freesoftware community do things rather good,  I suppouse Apple reolize this to, hence why OS X uses quite a lot of it, and has it easilly available for it
[03:13] <alteregoa> its determined by temperature too
[03:13] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: hmm?
[03:13] <IdleOne> intruder1: randomness of universe :)
[03:13] <thedude42> intruder1, so since defregmentaiont is a series of reads and writes, it's additional wear on the drive, so by that logic it does reduce the lifespan
[03:13] <Blank__> sebsebseb, it's a shame that apple twisted it for their own ends
[03:13] <intruder1> IdleOne: i like it
[03:13] <alteregoa> sebsebseb: i didnt criticize open source community, i criticize how they threat the users
[03:13] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: tired of seeing him compare everything to windows and trying to prove it is better
[03:13] <sebsebseb> IdleOne: oh
[03:14] <Jordan_U> intruder1: A study by google ( who used a lot of cheap consumer hard drives to power google.com ) showed that usage patterns actually mattered very little, so file system is almost certainly insignifigant
[03:14] <sebsebseb> alteregoa: Linux distros are not Windows, there's even a good article for that
[03:14] <sebsebseb> !windows
[03:14] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: ubuntu doesnt send info on everything I do back to Canonical so they can sell that information. Windows does! Prove me wrong in /msg because all this windows talk is offtopic for #ubuntu
[03:14] <radmin> anyone know if there is equivalent of prtvtoc/fmthard (solaris) to simply and quickly duplicate a partition tabel to another (identical) drive?
[03:15] <Jordan_U> intruder1: For SSDs however there can be a huge difference in lifespan between file systems
[03:15] <alteregoa> i talking of usability, and this still lacks
[03:15] <sebsebseb> ah ha there it is :) bug one in that factoid,   I wanted the link earlier, but  coudn't remember which factoid it was in,  wanted to pm the bot for it
[03:15] <IdleOne> alteregoa:  ubuntu doesnt send info on everything I do back to Canonical so they can sell that information. Windows does! Prove me wrong in /msg because all this windows talk is offtopic for #ubuntu
[03:15] <intruder1> thedude42: can i conclude that formatting an external hard drive with a linux filesystem such as ext3 would be a better idea than using NTFS, let's say i won't plug it in any windows computer
[03:15] <IdleOne> sorry sebsebseb wasnt meant for you :)
[03:15] <DaZ> IdleOne: fud.
[03:15] <thedude42> intruder1, i would think not from that standpoint of portability
[03:16] <intruder1> Jordan_U: yea, about the journaling thing, that's why we use ext2 on a eeepc
[03:16] <alteregoa> idleone: yeah, i would replace the staff with idiot users, and make ubuntu from scratch, without using anything from debian
[03:16] <sebsebseb> !ot
[03:16] <IdleOne> alteregoa: then you should be CEO
[03:16] <Jordan_U> radmin: Not simply, but you can do it with dd
[03:16] <alteregoa> i don't have wasting time walking in space
[03:16] <intruder1> thedude42: ? even if i said i will never plug it in any windows computer ever ?
[03:17] <sebsebseb> alteregoa: I wonder what the #
[03:17] <sebsebseb> ##linux people will say about file systems
[03:17] <thedude42> intruder1, well if you're only plugging it in to systekms that support ext3 then yeah, it's better than fat32
[03:17] <alteregoa> you cannot compare fat32 with ext3, compare it with ext2
[03:18] <grturner> why are we still trying to compare apples to oranges?
[03:18] <intruder1> sebsebseb: where can i ask windows ppl ? are there anywhere on freenode ?
[03:18] <MenZa> !windows | intruder1
[03:18] <sebsebseb> alteregoa: Well I have an idea I think,  because I have had these kind of chats before with people,  however if you want to talk about file systems in general  Linux and Windows ones I guess ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic  yes even  Windows file systems,  after all most up to date distros can read and write to NTFS and Fat32 these days
[03:18] <thedude42> wasn't aware we were comparing anything
[03:18] <intruder1> wow nice
[03:18] <alteregoa> a journalingFS with a non journaling `?
[03:18] <sebsebseb> intruder1: yes ##windows
[03:19] <alteregoa> i do not say A is better than B, i just said its different
[03:19] <radmin> Jordan_U: looks like 512bytes may do it
[03:19] <intruder1> alteregoa: ext2 is not journaling
[03:19] <grturner> NETSPLIT!!!
[03:19] <sebsebseb> !netsplit
[03:19] <thedude42> yay
[03:19] <alteregoa> yeah i said compare fat32 with ext2
[03:21] <grturner> ext2 was great... till you hard reset and had to do a complete fs check
[03:21] <sPiNe> im running ubuntu on my x505- the volume is scary low what do i do?
[03:21] <intruder1> i feel bad about asking these guys if they think their only available fs is crappy
[03:21] <intruder1> :(
[03:22] <sebsebseb> intruder1: Who?
[03:22] <sebsebseb> the Windows people?
[03:22] <intruder1> yea
[03:22] <alteregoa> for my opinion a fs should be like xfs with compression, because compression is faster in terms of access times
[03:22] <sebsebseb> intruder1: Fat32  and NTFS for Windows, with NTFS being the better out of the two,  plus there has been Fat16 in the past
[03:22] <thedude42> intruder1, the pros and cons of NTFS are fairly well known
[03:22] <k0nane> intruder1: What's your opinion on case-sensitivity?
[03:22] <Laughing_God> Grrrk~
[03:23] <intruder1> k0nane: it's important
[03:23] <Laughing_God> When i ttry to install cube effect  i got this error what is should do ubuntu:~$ apt:compizconfig-settings-manager
[03:23] <Laughing_God> bash: apt:compizconfig-settings-manager: command not found
[03:23] <k0nane> intruder1: Why do you say that? Personally, I find it annoying.
[03:24] <Gadu> my monitor doesn't support the resolution the 9.04 livecd is booting up to, what do I add to "Other Options" to choose the resolution?
[03:24] <ae86-drifter> NTFS is not very secure
[03:24] <ae86-drifter> compared to ext3/4
[03:25] <alteregoa> ae86, ntfs supports encryption, and ext3/4?
[03:25] <ae86-drifter> ext4/ext3
[03:25] <ae86-drifter> have u used ext4 yet?
[03:25] <alteregoa> yes
[03:26] <alteregoa> i used xfs ext3 and ext4
[03:26] <alteregoa> but murderfs never
[03:26] <intruder1> thedude42: do you happen to know where i can find those comparisions or pros/crons list of ntfs vs ext2,3,4 ?
[03:26] <angel\> !grub
[03:26] <ae86-drifter> look on wikipedia
[03:26] <grturner> whats so good about reiserfs?
[03:26] <krazed> Are there any real good wireless program's that'll show me the other computers connected and other stats?
[03:26] <slavik> reiserfs is good for small files
[03:26] <usser_> grturner, ppl say it performs better with lots of small files
[03:27] <ae86-drifter> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[03:27] <intruder1> i mean those that are well-known, those you talk about
[03:27] <InitHello> alteregoa: murderfs as in reiserfs?
[03:27] <alteregoa> its a joke
[03:27] <tritium> !reiser
[03:27] <usser_> krazed, i dont think theres special program from. nmap and wireshark can do what you ask but they are more like network swiss knives
[03:27] <alteregoa> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_file_systems&oldid=209063556#Features
[03:28] <thedude42> intruder1, google, start at wikipedia.... there are plenty of msdn articles on optimising storage with NTFS which talk about the limitations.... I really don't have a central resource or article that does a comprehensive comparrison
[03:28] <thedude42> ^^^ what alteregoa said
[03:29] <ae86-drifter> who would need a single 16TB file?
[03:29] <angel\> !grub
[03:29] <ae86-drifter> thats stupid
[03:29] <intruder1> damn, ntfs can handle 16 exabyte files while ext4 can only handle 16 terabyte files :(
[03:29] <thedude42> ae86-drifter, rainbow table
[03:29] <ae86-drifter> lol
[03:29] <ae86-drifter> 16TB rainbow table???
[03:30] <thedude42> why not?
[03:30] <ae86-drifter> that would take years to generate
[03:30] <thedude42> ae86-drifter, right, just like no one coule ever need more than 640KB...
[03:30] <Gadu> where can I find livecd cheatcodes?
[03:30] <alteregoa> yeah that needs a shitload of memory to create
[03:30] <ae86-drifter> if a 33GB table takes 50 PCs 3 days
[03:30] <tritium> Watch the language, please, alteregoa.
[03:30] <FiremanEd> !language
[03:31] <grturner> meh... this bores me
[03:31] <alteregoa> it needs a brownload of memory
[03:31] <ae86-drifter> honestly thedude42, what would you use a 16TB file for
[03:31] <intruder1> Gadu: ? what do you mean
[03:31] <ae86-drifter> and rainbow table is not an answer
[03:31] <angel\> does anyone know if there is a way i can get my GRUB working again .... i put it in a separate partition and it gives me a "Error 15" ... i also tried the two links in the !grub, didnt help at all ...
[03:31] <ae86-drifter> because thats just stupid
[03:32] <alteregoa> yeah
[03:32] <ae86-drifter> maybe a virtual machine
[03:32] <ae86-drifter> ?
[03:32] <alteregoa> angel: there is a recovery project
[03:32] <DaZ> ae86-drifter: porn.
[03:32] <ae86-drifter> haha
[03:32] <thedude42> ae86-drifter, the idea behind designing software that supports data structures far beyond what we use right now is that, you know, the whole trend is that the more computing power we have, the larger things get
[03:32] <ae86-drifter> thats one big porn clip
[03:32] <angel\> alteregoa: where is taht ???
[03:33] <ae86-drifter> thedude42, thats a good answer
[03:33] <InitHello> thedude42: lies! We couldn't possibly need more than 32 bits for an IP
[03:33] <alteregoa> angel: its a special cd you have to insert and it fix the grub
[03:33] <ae86-drifter> ipv6 is an overkill
[03:33] <thedude42> InitHello, exactly
[03:33] <Gadu> intruder1: like setting to use a specific resolution at boot on the livecd
[03:33] <angel\> hmm thanks alteregoa
[03:34] <InitHello> ae86-drifter: I imagine that video files could be 16TB a few decades from now
[03:35] <usser_> InitHello, well actually its not at all unlikely, uncompressed video can go pretty large
[03:35] <thedude42> ae86-drifter, of course you don't want to sacrafice efficiency or speed for making something extensible, which is why we see things that do hit the edge of their usefulness ... like that large disk support thing in the NT kernel a couple years back
[03:35] <InitHello> usser_: and imagine when 3d video is possible
[03:35] <alteregoa> rescuelinux or something
[03:35] <alteregoa> dunno
[03:36] <thedude42> InitHello, i was thinking more about large data sets collected from distributed computational work..... I can see that stuff having very large files
[03:36] <InitHello> thedude42: another valid supposition
[03:36] <tritium> Stay on topic, folks.
[03:37] <intruder1> Gadu: these are general linux tricks
[03:37] <alteregoa> maybe a very high resolution 64bit color tiff, with a insane large resolution from hubble
[03:37] <intruder1> Gadu: search for "linux boot parameters"
[03:37] <Gadu> intruder1: I could find things specific to the ubuntu livecd with that?
[03:39] <tab1293_> hi i just installed karmic koala and there is no menu.lst for grub
[03:39] <intruder1> Gadu: i don't think you wont find such things, you can't influence the behavior of a livecd much only by the boot parameters
[03:39] <Gadu> intruder1: I just want to be able to choose the resolution that is used on livecd
[03:39] <alteregoa> yeah this is normal tab1293
[03:39] <Gadu> intruder1: oh I see
[03:39] <tab1293_> i am trying to to boot back into windows 7
[03:39] <k0nane> tab1293_: run sudo update-grub
[03:39] <sexycatsinhats_> tab1293_: Its now /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:39] <Gadu> intruder1: that seems ineffective, my monitor can't see the resolution that is being picked automatically
[03:39] <k0nane> ^ That too.
[03:39] <k0nane> Didn't know that.
[03:39] <tab1293_> sexycatsinhats_: i saw that, but i have no idea how to edit that
[03:40] <Gadu> intruder1: seems you should be able to put something like "resolution=1024x768" in the boot line thing
[03:40] <sexycatsinhats_> tab1293_: It's a little bit different than menu.lst. They had to change it for Karmic.
[03:40] <_Techie_> will ubuntu install to a ext3 formated USB drive?
[03:40] <intruder1> Gadu: this would only affect the text-mode resolution
[03:40] <alteregoa> i think its a cryptic stuff
[03:40] <alteregoa> grub mode something
[03:41] <alteregoa> you need to type the vesa mode
[03:41] <tab1293_> sexycatsinhats_: ok well do you know if there is anyway to reinstall windows 7 bootloader from ubuntu?
[03:41] <tritium> tab1293_: #ubuntu+1 for karmic until it's released
[03:41] <alteregoa> 0x200 or something
[03:41] <intruder1> alteregoa: this won't alter the way Xorg autodetects its stuff
[03:41] <alteregoa> intruder: for the splash screen?
[03:41] <_Techie_> alteregoa to load the vesa driver boot using xforcevesa
[03:42] <xover> guys, how can i search for a package so that is only shows the exact thing i am looking for
[03:42] <xover> when i do apt-cache search thunderbird it shows loads of matches
[03:42] <Gadu> intruder1: knoppix, for example, allows for "screen=1024x768" to be added to the boot line thing
[03:42] <sexycatsinhats_> tab1293_: there is a way, but I don't know how.. sorry. Might have to Google it or wait to see if there's someone else who knows
[03:43] <BingO> Hi room
[03:43] <intruder1> Gadu: and it works ?
[03:43] <_Techie_> xover: if you know the name of the package you want, why not just apt-get install?
[03:43] <tritium> xover: more specific search terms, or filter with grep, or something similar
[03:43] <BingO> have any one installed and configure Clip-Share.com software (clipshare)..
[03:43] <alteregoa> is till ask myself how to bypass
[03:43] <BingO> i need help about it
[03:43] <Gadu> intruder1: in knoppix livecd yes, I'll try that exact line on the ubuntu livecd if you think it might workk
[03:44] <intruder1> Gadu: what release are you using ?
[03:44] <tab1293_> can anyone tell me how i can reinstall windows 7 bootloader from ubuntu?
[03:44] <LinuX2half> why my window CD weren't able to load?
[03:44] <usser_> tab1293_, you cant
[03:44] <Gadu> intruder1: 9.04 ubuntu livecd
[03:45] <tab1293_> usser_: are you sure? why not?
[03:45] <cody_> how do i find out the hardware my  computers use? Like windows has device manager, what does linuix have?
[03:45] <Gadu> cody_: lshw and lspci
[03:45] <usser_> tab1293_, well its vista bootloader, you can reinstall from vista's recovery cd
[03:45] <tab1293_> usser_: ok i tried booting from my windows 7 disk
[03:46] <usser_> tab1293_, right and?
[03:46] <tab1293_> but when i tried fixmbr and all that stuff it said i was on the wrong volume and everything
[03:46] <xover> _Techie_: I want to check the version numbers
[03:46] <shane2peru> does anyone know how to get apt to show the info for the released package it wants to upgrade?  version # etc.
[03:46] <usser_> tab1293_, hm wouldnt know much about windows. did  you move/resize your partitions?
[03:47] <tab1293_> no idk whats going on with it
[03:47] <intruder1> Gadu: can't see how knoppix is doing this
[03:47] <tab1293_> i guess an ubuntu channel wouldnt be a good place for help but are you sure there is no way of installing the vista bootloader from ubuntu
[03:47] <intruder1> Gadu: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[03:47] <cody_> Gadu thanks
[03:47] <tab1293_> i remember i did it for xp
[03:47] <thedude42> shane2peru, apt-cache show <package>
[03:47] <Nautilus> After an upgrade from 8 to 9, I cant get to localhost/phpmyadmin ... just a white screen.  Any ideas?
[03:47] <Gadu> intruder1: see http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Cheat_Codes
[03:48] <shane2peru> thedude42: that shows the installed package, not the one it want's to download and install
[03:48] <thedude42> shane2peru, right, so you take the package name of the package it wants to download and install, and do apt-cache show on that package....
[03:48] <usser_> tab1293_, yes im pretty sure, no way unless you actually backed it up in advance with dd or some such
[03:49] <intruder1> Gadu: hrm, interesting
[03:49] <Gadu> intruder1: aha vga=792 will set it to 1024x768
[03:49] <Gadu> intruder1: that's exactly what I wanted
[03:49] <intruder1> Gadu: for the text-mode
[03:49] <shane2peru> thedude42: it is an upgrade of a package I have, I want to know what it wants to replace my package with?  I installed from source, it is ffmpeg
[03:49] <Gadu> wha?
[03:49] <intruder1> Gadu: try it, but im pretty sure it won't do what you wanted
[03:50] <ablmf> My colleague told me that I should use "shutdown -r" instead of "reboot", but according to what I Googled, reboot normally equals "shutdown -r".  So, who is right?  My colleague or Google?
[03:50] <thedude42> shane2peru, if you installed yours from source and it's not in the apt cache, then apt-cache show will show you the one it wants to install
[03:51] <intruder1> Gadu: knoppix also has a vga=, this is a standard kernel param, screen= isnt
[03:51] <intruder1> screen= affects X
[03:51] <usser_> ablmf, from the man reboot If  halt or reboot is called when the system is not in runlevel 0 or 6,
[03:51] <usser_>        in other words when it's running normally,  shutdown  will  be  invoked
[03:51] <usser_>        instead  (with  the  -h  or -r flag). For more info see the shutdown(8)
[03:51] <usser_>        manpage.
[03:51] <FloodBot1> usser_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:51] <shane2peru> thedude42: oh, right, I actually made a package and installed it so, when I use apt-cache show ffmpeg it shows me as the maintainer, and shows my package, however now it want's to update it, and I'm quite curious as to what it wants to replace it with.
[03:51] <jp_> Hey all im having a problem with my usb headset on my laptop and it looks like i need to make the usb driver the default, so i need some help doing that in the terminal
[03:51] <usser_> ablmf, so they are equivalent in most cases
[03:52] <ablmf> usser_:  So will the system normally in runlevel 0 or 6?
[03:52] <thedude42> shane2peru, then download the deb for the package it wants to upgrade and do some dpkg fu on it
[03:52] <panfist> i have had weeks of uptime with jaunty desktop; i tried to install ubuntu-xen-desktop, which i think installed a server kernel, and after i rebooted i got a hard lock before it could get to a desktop environment
[03:52] <usser_> ablmf, no 0 and 6 are not normal runlevels
[03:53] <shane2peru> thedude42: I guess I could do that, I was just hoping apt had a way to tell me why it wanted to upgrade it
[03:53] <shane2peru> thedude42: I guess I could just install it, and then remove it and revert back to my old package, but that is a pain too.
[03:54] <jp_> Hey all im having a problem with my usb headset on my laptop and it looks like i need to make the usb driver the default, so i need some help doing that in the terminal
[03:55] <thedude42> shane2peru, well, i assume you're doing apt-get update.... does it not show a package name with a version there?
[03:55] <RegressLess> does anyone know how to use cpufreqd?
[03:55] <RegressLess> I can't find it
[03:55] <shane2peru> thedude42: The following packages will be upgraded:
[03:55] <shane2peru>   ffmpeg libmlt-data libpostproc-unstripped-51 melt wine x264
[03:55] <shane2peru>   Nope, not very specific
[03:55] <Gadu> intruder1: still couldn't see the screen so guess not =(
[03:56] <shane2peru> thedude42: I think it is pulling it in as a dep for melt, or something
[03:56] <nolimitsoya_> id need a dejavu plugin for firefox. where would i find one?
[03:56] <Gadu> intruder1: it really needs an option like 'screen', for those that can't see the automatically selected resolution =(
[03:57] <olvap> hi. ruby question. i have @item = Item.find(params[:id]) to find an especific row of a table. what if i need to find another item whit and other params.
[03:57] <usser_> nolimitsoya_, you can use mozplugger with evince
[03:57] <thedude42> shane2peru, well the tool is going to either be apt-cache or dpkg, apt-get doesn't do much in the inspection area
[03:58] <faryshta> Hi, is there any p2p program (like limewire) not written in Java?
[03:58] <olvap> for example the row whit high value
[03:58] <shane2peru> thedude42: right, apt-cache, I will have to look into it more probably as you said, download it and dpkg fu it
[03:58] <thedude42> olvap, might want to ask that in #ruby, as the people in this room who could answer that are probably idling in there as well
[04:00] <shane2peru> thedude42: ahh, aptitude download ffmpeg gives me the scoop, fyi :)
[04:00] <glicks> hi
[04:00] <hans> !hi | glicks
[04:01] <glicks> hey how come ubuntu gets like like 2 hours less battery time on my netbook than windows XP?
[04:01] <thedude42> shane2peru, yeah, i never use aptitude... i should probably consider using it :p
[04:01] <nolimitsoya_> usser_, how would i do that?
[04:01] <shane2peru> thedude42: I use it as a fallback when I forget the apt-get commands,
[04:02] <usser_> nolimitsoya_, just install mozplugger and evince
[04:02] <nolimitsoya_> usser_, bear with me, im trying to help someone over the phone here :) apt-get install mozplugger?
[04:02] <faryshta> !p2p
[04:02] <nolimitsoya_> usser_, thank you :)
[04:02] <hans> glicks: energy efficienty is very hardware dependent, i.e. on my laptop, Ubuntu uses less processor power than windows, and doesn't need to run the fan near as much, so I get extra battery life in linux
[04:06] <hkeagle> hello
[04:06] <thedude42> hi
[04:08] <scunizi> any IP based remote webcam suggestions
[04:09] <deww> axis.com perhaps
[04:10] <ae86-drifter> cisco webex
[04:12] <scunizi> Axis looks promising.. cisco webex looks to be a typical webcam
[04:12] <ae86-drifter> up to you
[04:12] <comfnumb> Is there any way to mount .iso files in linux as virtual drives?
[04:13] <ZanQdo> sure
[04:13] <ZanQdo> use mount
[04:13] <pepper> mount -o loop <isofile> < whedoyouwant.>
[04:13] <ae86-drifter> mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk
[04:13] <thedude42> comfnumb, linux doesn't exactly share the concept of 'drive' the way windows uses it
[04:13] <usser_> comfnumb, mount -t iso9660 /disk.iso /media/cdrom -o loop
[04:13] <ae86-drifter> u have to mkdir the folder first
[04:13] <alteregoa> bs
[04:14] <alteregoa> heh how can i go into the grub menu?
[04:14] <comfnumb> thanks!
[04:14] <scunizi> ae86-drifter: yep.. but thanks for the suggestion...
[04:14] <alteregoa> those sucker doesnt start up again
[04:16] <[t0rc]> is there a way to check what times users have logged in and logged out in ubuntu?
[04:16] <DaZ_> sure
[04:16] <thedude42> [t0rc], /var/log/auth.log
[04:16] <ZanQdo> alteregoa, hit e for edit in the boot selection
[04:18] <churl1> on my fresh install of xubuntu 9.04, my volume buttons are not working, can anyone point me in a direction?
[04:19] <[t0rc]> thedude42, thanks and that file looks rather extensive XD thanks anyways
[04:19] <pepper> churl1, volume buttons or the sound itself?
[04:20] <churl1> pepper: the volume buttons won't change the sound up/down/mute
[04:20] <pepper> well... try in terminal $ alsamixer and see what happens.
[04:20] <thedude42> [t0rc], typically you would want to parse it somehow, it's not necessarily meant to be audited directly
[04:21] <[t0rc]> thedude42, hah, indeed =)
[04:22] <TheRealmezquital> churl1, have you tried changing the settings in "system-->administration-->sound"
[04:22] <jc> hello
[04:23] <ircn00b> hi
[04:23] <pepper> hello!
[04:23] <ircn00b> i need some help with vnc in ubuntu
[04:23] <SoftwareExplorer> ircn00b: what do you need help with?
[04:24] <ircn00b> I have vinagre installed. but i was wondering if there is a vnc clinent that...
[04:24] <ircn00b> allows me to save favourites with a cosmetic name.. vinagre doesnt do that.
[04:25] <jeeves_Moss> what is the best seedbox to use in a headless system with preferably a WebUI adin
[04:25] <ircn00b> all i want to do is preset my vnc servers with a name so i can point and click
[04:25] <churl1> pepper: TheRealmezquital everything seems fine there, i dont really know what to check for except that the master and pcm are both up, and sound works fine, i just wanna control it from those buttons
[04:25] <carpediem> ircn00b: Terminal Server Client let's you save things like that
[04:25] <SoftwareExplorer> ircn00b: hmm, I don't know how to do that, but I do know how to run it over ssh and port forward stuff, thats why I asked what your problem is. Hopefully someone else can help
[04:25] <ircn00b> really? ok ill check it out.. i assumed it was for rdc only :P
[04:26] <ircn00b> np explorer..
[04:26] <carpediem> ircn00b: no, it supports a number of protocols if they are installed.  greys them out if not
[04:26] <ircn00b> im in a bash irc app.. what recommendations you all have to a GUI irc client?
[04:26] <ircn00b> ok ty carpe
[04:27] <carpediem> ircn00b: Pidgin or Empathy for simple IRCing, XChat for more advanced (like mirc)
[04:27] <ircn00b> xchat.. i remember now :)
[04:27] <jeeves_Moss> carpediem, do you have any ideas on this seed box question?
[04:27] <carpediem> jeeves_Moss: missed it...what's the Q
[04:28] <carpediem> jeeves_Moss: okay, now I see it....never heard the term seedbox though
[04:29] <jeeves_Moss> carpediem, I'm trying to set up a seed box on my web server so I can distro a few of our grass roots videos.  I'd prefer something with a WebUI so I don't have to babysit these people
[04:29] <carpediem> jeeves_Moss: AHH, okay...
[04:29] <jeeves_Moss> carpediem, it's just a Torrent program without the WebUI
[04:29] <ijai> seedbox or sandboz?
[04:29] <GUI-IRCn00b> cya ircn00b  :P
[04:29] <GUI-IRCn00b> thx for xchat suggestion
[04:29] <carpediem> jeeves_Moss: I'd go with the standard transmission.  IT has a daemon (headless) version.
[04:29] <jeeves_Moss> carpediem, and becasue it has no GUI, then it has to be admined by a WebUI
[04:30] <jeeves_Moss> carpediem, does it have a WebUI add on?
[04:30] <GUI-IRCn00b> you folks talkin about a torrent box?
[04:30] <carpediem> jeeves_Moss: yep
[04:30] <GUI-IRCn00b> we use torrentflux
[04:30] <GUI-IRCn00b> it rocks and has a webui
[04:30] <GUI-IRCn00b> its in synaptic too
[04:30] <carpediem> jeeves_Moss: yhou have it by default on Ubuntu, and if you look in the preferences, there's a web ui you can enable.
[04:30] <jeeves_Moss> GUI-IRCn00b, is it a headless one that has a webui?
[04:31] <MikeChelen> deluge has webui now too
[04:31] <GUI-IRCn00b> we run it as a headless server
[04:31] <GUI-IRCn00b> what you mean by headless ive no idea :/
[04:31] <MikeChelen> no gui
[04:31] <GUI-IRCn00b> ahh
[04:31] <GUI-IRCn00b> then yes its headless
[04:31] <GUI-IRCn00b> we just http to it
[04:31] <Laughing_God> How do i install cube effect on ubuntu.
[04:31] <GUI-IRCn00b> www.torrentflux.com
[04:32] <jeeves_Moss> GUI-IRCn00b, well, this box is a CLI only box.  can you send me a howto to install it with the WebUI through GLI?
[04:32] <GUI-IRCn00b> u running 9.04 current ?
[04:32] <carpediem> jeeves_Moss: Why not use transmission, it's already installed by default
[04:32] <GUI-IRCn00b> transmission works too. flux has way more power IMHO
[04:32] <SoftwareExplorer> laughzilla: install Compiz config setting manager
[04:32] <jeeves_Moss> GUI-IRCn00b, thanks.  as I said, we're using it to distro our indi films
[04:33] <GUI-IRCn00b> jeeves_Moss: apt-get install torrentflux should do
[04:33] <carpediem> GUI-IRCn00b: not to be daft, but what kind of more power does it have?
[04:33] <SoftwareExplorer> laughzilla: then go to System>Preferences>CompizConfig Setting Manager
[04:33] <jeeves_Moss> GUI-IRCn00b, thanks.
[04:34] <GUI-IRCn00b> i cant answer as a harcore user but i found the admin aspect more verbose
[04:34] <GUI-IRCn00b> so you can have "accounts" as to who can do what
[04:34] <ae86-drifter> i have torrentflux and MLdonkey running on my server
[04:34] <carpediem> GUI-IRCn00b: the transmission web UI is ajax, very nicely done, almost like a GUI client in a browser
[04:34] <GUI-IRCn00b> we have multiple users on it
[04:34] <GUI-IRCn00b> so it worked best for our usage
[04:34] <SoftwareExplorer> Laughing_God: Then email enable desktop cube and rotate cube
[04:34] <ae86-drifter> rtorrent webui is pretty nice as well
[04:34] <jeeves_Moss> GUI-IRCn00b, I'm just looking for something simple so the girls in the office can just add the files
[04:35] <carpediem> jeeves_Moss: trust me, run transmission, then enable the web ui, and just look at it for 10 seconds.
[04:35] <GUI-IRCn00b> transmission(as someone else said) is already installed
[04:35] <GUI-IRCn00b> it does the job :)
[04:35] <GUI-IRCn00b> carpediem is right
[04:35] <laughzilla> softwareexplorer wtf?!?!
[04:35] <SoftwareExplorer> Laughing_God: Go to general options then desktop size tab and set horizontal desktop size to 4
[04:36] <SoftwareExplorer> sorry, got your username mixed up with Laughing_God's
[04:36] <MikeChelen> jeeves_Moss: for basic features transmission is fine, for advanced like RSS deluge is better
[04:36] <ae86-drifter> uh Mike?
[04:37] <ae86-drifter> transmission has more features
[04:37] <jeeves_Moss> MikeChelen, ok.  I'm trying to find a "howto" online to install it through a CLI
[04:37] <SoftwareExplorer> laughzilla: sorry, got your username mixed up with Laughing_God's username, I'm not used to pidgin just yet
[04:37] <GUI-IRCn00b> .
[04:37] <carpediem> yeah, that's true, transmission doesn't do RSS subscriptions.
[04:37] <MikeChelen> ae86-drifter: does transmission support RSS feeds or magnet links?
[04:37] <darkstar999> what program would be good for making mashups or putting a beat to a song?
[04:37] <GUI-IRCn00b> darkstar999: give us an example
[04:37] <jeeves_Moss> I don't need RSS
[04:38] <TheRealmezquital> darkstar999, use ubuntustudio if you have a spare hard drive
[04:38] <MikeChelen> yeah so tranmission sounds fine then
[04:38] <ae86-drifter> you can automatically add torrents from a folder
[04:38] <carpediem> darkstar999: I'm not totally into mixing, but I know Jokosher is somewhat popular for that.
[04:38] <ae86-drifter> as soon as u drop them in there
[04:38] <SoftwareExplorer> Laughing_God: install Compiz config setting manager, then go to System>Preferences>CompizConfig
[04:38] <ae86-drifter> map it to an ftp drive
[04:38] <darkstar999> GUI-IRCn00b: Take a song that already exists, add a hip-hop beat to it
[04:38] <MikeChelen> darkstar999: audacity is a good audio editor, something else might be more convenient
[04:38] <darkstar999> audacity won't do what I need
[04:39] <MikeChelen> how come?
[04:39] <panji> checking the sound
[04:39] <MikeChelen> ae86-drifter: do you know how to start the transmission webui from CLI?
[04:39] <carpediem> MikeChelen: you can't mix tracks nicely with it
[04:39] <DaZ> MikeChelen: transmission-daemon? :f
[04:40] <MikeChelen> carpediem: tried ardour?
[04:40] <incidence> My Ubuntu is full of viruses (riiight..): http://paradoksi.ath.cx/~jussi/i/viruksia.png
[04:40] <ae86-drifter> easy
[04:40] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> when i try to log in, the screen flickers for a second, then kicks me back to the login screen. i can login with the failsafe gnome session though
[04:40] <ae86-drifter> transmission <torrent file>
[04:40] <DaZ> incidence: i love it
[04:40] <MikeChelen> DaZ: idk, is that it? jeeves_Moss was asking
[04:40] <carpediem> MikeChelen: yeah, Ardour is the high-end (complicated) one...Jokosher is the simpler "for the masses" one
[04:40] <DaZ> ahh
[04:40] <MenZa> incidence: *giggle*
[04:41] <thedude42> that's pretty hillarious
[04:41] <MenZa> incidence: Do note that that's more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic - this is strictly for support :)
[04:41] <GUI-IRCn00b> incidence: nice!!
[04:41] <MikeChelen> ae86-drifter: will the webui be enabled?
[04:41] <incidence> Oh MenZa Sorry about that :)
[04:41] <darkstar999> ardour might work. thanks.
[04:41] <blenderpc4> I need help with Amarok.  Can I get that here?
[04:41] <mnaines> incidence: Now if only you had the Aero Desktop theme for Ubuntu, that would have been a whole lot funnier
[04:42] <DaZ> but the people in ubuntu-offtopic are rude >: >:
[04:42] <MikeChelen> carpediem: cool, will have to give jokosher a try too
[04:43] <incidence> mnaines: Blah, I've got used to the lovely Ubuntu theme :P
[04:43] <leaf-sheep> incidence: OMG! Format! Reinstall Ubuntu! That's scary!
[04:43] <ae86-drifter> u have to edit the config first to enable it
[04:43] <ae86-drifter> there isnt a command line switch for webui
[04:43] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> when i try to log in, the screen flickers for a second, then kicks me back to the login screen. i can login with the failsafe gnome session though
[04:43] <afeijo> how can I configure a samba share folder to be writable?
[04:44] <leaf-sheep> !samba | afeijo
[04:44] <thedude42> afeijo, that question would be better served in #samba
[04:44] <iBiZa-> fuck me, i've never been in a irc channelw ith 1000 users
[04:44] <MikeChelen> swat is good, so is gsambad
[04:44] <darkstar999> yeah, fuck you
[04:44] <leaf-sheep> !language | iBiZa- darkstar999
[04:45] <iBiZa-> lol
[04:45] <thedude42> that was pretty funny
[04:45]  * iBiZa- slaps meek_ around a bit with a large trout
[04:45] <afeijo> thedude42 thanks
[04:45] <darkstar999> :D
[04:45] <blenderpc4> trying to play music on Amarok and getting static and no music
[04:45] <MikeChelen> blenderpc4: do other players work okay?
[04:45] <carpediem> blenderpc4: make sure you set the output to Pulseaudio in the options
[04:46] <darkstar999> speaking of audio, my girlfriends netbook is running Remix and when the sound is muted it makes a horrible buzzing sound
[04:46] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> when i try to log in, ubuntu just kicks me back to the login page. any help?
[04:46] <blenderpc4> Mike - no...banshee, gtkpod, amarok all give static
[04:47] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: make sure you have the right "session" chosen in the login screen
[04:47] <ae86-drifter> Hawaiian_Eskimo: does it come up "wrong password"
[04:47] <ae86-drifter> hehe
[04:47] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> no, no error. just kicks me back to the login
[04:47] <ae86-drifter> oh ok
[04:47] <carpediem> blenderpc4: try killall pulseaudio, then see if sound doesn't get better
[04:47] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> the password is right :P
[04:48] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: the only one that works is the failsafes
[04:48] <blenderpc4> Its not staticy music...its just static
[04:48] <SoftwareExplorer> Is there a way to turn of where pidgin tells you every time someone leaves or enters, maybe for a channel? There's more leave/enter notices then actual chat
[04:49] <carpediem> SoftwareExplorer: yes, its in the options somewhere
[04:49] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: Yes, its a plugin
[04:49] <blenderpc4> so killall is a terminal cmnd?
[04:49] <lstarnes> blenderpc4: yes
[04:49] <carpediem> blenderpc4: yes
[04:49] <ae86-drifter> Hawaiian_Eskimo: Have you tried logging in as root instead?
[04:49] <blenderpc4> I'll give it a shot.  Thanks
[04:49] <Satz> blenderpc4: just a tip. if you are curious about a command, just type man in front of it in a shell
[04:50] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: Its the Join/Part Hiding Plugin, v2.6.1
[04:50] <Satz> tells you about the cmd and tells you if u have it
[04:50] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> ae86-drifter: give me a sec to enable it
[04:50] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: Where can I get it/ what is it called?
[04:50] <blenderpc4> thanks satz...very helpful.
[04:50] <carpediem> ae86-drifter, you can't login as root unless you enabled the root password which is TERRIBLE advice in #ubuntu
[04:50] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: Go into synaptic and download all the available plugin packs for Pidgin and you'll get it
[04:50] <Madcamper> how do you kill a process in ubuntu if the command "ps" doesnt list the processes running?
[04:50] <Satz> man woman always has a laugh
[04:50] <Satz> ps -ef ?
[04:51] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: Thanks, I'll be back in awhile
[04:51] <lstarnes> Madcamper: check ps ax
[04:51] <DaZ> Madcamper: killall
[04:51] <Madcamper> ahh
[04:51] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: got a better idea? i know not to rm -rf / (don't do that btw)
[04:51] <Madcamper> whats the ax stand for?
[04:51] <Satz> man ps
[04:51] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: After you do that, go to Pidgin>Tools>Plugins then check the box next to "Join/Part Hiding"
[04:51] <DaZ> or kill `pidof something` ;f
[04:51] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: yes, let's figure out the root cause.  If the failsafes are working, there's something messed up.  First, I would find out if you can log in as another user (not root)
[04:51] <Madcamper> oh all
[04:52] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> there is only one user
[04:52] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> want me to create another one?
[04:52] <ae86-drifter> carpediem, dont you think its a good idea to just try logging in as root in case there is an issue with the user account??
[04:52] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: yeah, from CLI, sudo adduser test
[04:52] <leaf-sheep> ae86-drifter: Use "sudo -i" instead.
[04:52] <DaZ> it's neithher good nor bad ;f
[04:53] <carpediem> ae86-drifter: not by enabling root logins via pw
[04:53] <carpediem> ae86-drifter: better to add another user account.
[04:53] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> ... it asks me for a room number. nice :P
[04:53] <Madcamper> hrm, i cant find firefox process listed, but its frozen
[04:53] <ae86-drifter> it would  be temporarily just for a test, but i agree that your idea is safer.. hehe
[04:53] <Satz> Madcamper: man pkill
[04:53] <Satz> as in pkill firefox
[04:54] <pepper> killall firefox.
[04:54] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> ok the new account logged in
[04:54] <Madcamper> kk
[04:54] <Madcamper> thx
[04:54] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: then, there's a few things that could be wrong....
[04:54] <blenderpc4> tried killall pulseaudio and still get only static
[04:54] <laughzilla> softwareexplorer no problem :) enjoy your learning curve :)
[04:54] <ae86-drifter> look at /etc/passwd
[04:54] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> it's a fresh install, if i just deleted the account and made a new one, would that probably fix it?
[04:54] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: one thing I would suggest is "sudo chown myusername:myusername /home/myusername"
[04:55] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> "test is not in the sudoers file. this incident will be reported"
[04:55] <Satz> uh oh!
[04:55] <ae86-drifter> oh no
[04:55] <ae86-drifter> run!
[04:55]  * Satz notices Agent Smith...
[04:55] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: no, from the CLI of your other account
[04:55] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: Thanks, it must be working, or people suddenly stopped connecting to the ubuntu channel
[04:55] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> cops are coming, arent they?
[04:56] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: gotcha
[04:56] <sjines> I need help with firefox
[04:56] <Satz> sjines ?
[04:56] <sjines> yes
[04:56] <Satz> how so
[04:56] <carpediem> !ask sjines
[04:56] <carpediem> heh, whoops
[04:56] <Satz> hah
[04:56] <darkstar999> huuurrr hurrrrrr
[04:56] <carpediem> sjnes !ask
[04:56] <carpediem> hmm
[04:56] <sjines> everytime i miniize something it disappears
[04:56] <carpediem> I hate bots
[04:57] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: What that does is hides any join/part messages that are not active users.  For example, if they do not type anything in chat, it will hide the notification that they joined or left
[04:57] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: entered the command, still doing it
[04:57] <Satz> sjines: can you alt-tab to get it back?
[04:57] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: fresh install, do you have anything important in your home dir?
[04:57] <sjines> i havent tried
[04:57] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: just a fresh install
[04:57] <Satz> try
[04:57] <sjines> okay.
[04:58] <Satz> load it up, minimize and alt-tab
[04:58] <blenderpc4> ok...so I tried some music online, and it was static too.  Systemic problem with sound?  any help is appreciated
[04:58] <Satz> blenderpc4 can you hear audio ok in a browser? youtube for ex?
[04:58] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: it had this issue in linux mint, i switched to ubuntu thinking it might go away. it didn't :(
[04:58] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: thats smart
[04:58] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: then I would try "rm /home/myuser/ -R" then "sudo mkdir /home/myuser" then "sudo chown myuser:myuser /home/myuser -R"
[04:59] <sjines> wow.
[04:59] <sjines> thank you!
[04:59] <Satz> np :)
[04:59] <Satz> im a newbie too
[04:59] <sjines> i had no idea!
[04:59] <sjines> in other cool cool tricks?
[04:59] <Satz> windows key + m
[04:59] <carpediem> sjines: sounds like your task bar is missing?  is that so?
[04:59] <Satz> windows key + e
[04:59] <Satz> carpediem, thats what i thought
[05:00] <sjines> wow!
[05:00] <Satz> if u want to prove that sjines make another account and test
[05:00] <blenderpc4> satz - nope all sound is static.
[05:00] <pepper> blenderpc4, try #alsaconfig...
[05:00] <Satz> just for kicks blenderpc4 say u popped in a live cd does the audio work?
[05:01] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: cool, it works now
[05:01] <ae86-drifter> Hawaiian_Eskimo: run sudoedit /etc/passwd and tell me if your username is listed in the file
[05:01] <carpediem> blenderpc4: do you have an onboard intel sound?
[05:01] <Satz> just wondering if ur audio device is flaky?
[05:01] <sjines> i have no idea about a task bar
[05:01] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: cool, you had some goofed up config file in your user dir, most likely
[05:01] <blenderpc4> I'll have to find a cd...havn't used one in a while lol
[05:01] <Satz> ah
[05:01] <Satz> well it would help you cross-test if it is the os or the device...
[05:01] <carpediem> sjines: when you minimize something, you shoudl have a task bar where you can see it, like the bottom in Windows.
[05:02] <pepper> blenderpc4, try to rebuild your sound driver.. it may work...
[05:02] <Laughing_God> How do i open Advanced Desktop Effects Settings?
[05:02] <carpediem> Laughing_God: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:02] <blenderpc4> pepper - not sure how to rebuild anything
[05:02] <durt> Laughing_God, do you have a 3d capable card?
[05:02] <carpediem> Laughing_God: that gives you access to EVERYTHING
[05:02] <sjines> it simple it has a trashcan
[05:02] <Laughing_God> yes
[05:02] <sjines> and a pencil in a fra
[05:02] <sjines> meee
[05:02] <sjines> my keys are messed up
[05:03] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: i changed the resolution and it's doing it again :(
[05:03] <durt> Laughing_God, with the restricted drivers enebled (if nvidia)?
[05:03] <pepper> blenderpc4, #alsaconf
[05:03] <jman_> Does anyone here use 64bit firefox and can successfully use the free LogMeIn service?
[05:03] <ae86-drifter> Hawaiian_Eskimo: run sudoedit /etc/passwd and tell me if your username is listed in the fil
[05:03] <SoftwareExplorer> Laughing_God: Sorry I got you mixed up with another username, so thats why my previous answer got out of order
[05:03] <webbb82> ok i want to disable ask for password upon waking up the computer what config file do i do this in i went there yesterday and it had all the config options for apps desktop/ everything what is this file
[05:03] <TheRealmezquital> blenderpc4, what is the output of cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:03] <carpediem> sjines: right click on it, choose Add To Panel, and choose Window List
[05:03]  * Laughing_God now confuse and blur
[05:03]  * Laughing_God now confuse and blur
[05:03]  * Laughing_God dies
[05:04] <carpediem> sjines: when I say right click on it, I mean the panel, not the trash can
[05:04] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> ae86-drifter: it's in there
[05:04] <Satz> webbb82, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620769
[05:04] <ae86-drifter> paste the line
[05:04] <defcon> what is the channel for backtrack
[05:04] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> ... i changed the resolution back and it's fixed again
[05:05] <durt> defcon, searchirc.com
[05:05] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: doctor says if it hurts, don't do it.
[05:05] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> nick:x:1000:1000:Nick Carrington,,,:/home/nick:/bin/bash
[05:05] <Satz> Nicky!!!
[05:05] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: can't see jack with the default resolution though :(
[05:05] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> oh well, i'll live
[05:05] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: have you enabled the nvidia drivers, or are you still on the crap OSS drivers?
[05:05] <ae86-drifter> Hawaiian_Eskimo: sorry i dont know!! :P
[05:06] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo:  nvidia card?
[05:06] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: still on the defaults
[05:06] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: should i try the nvidia drivers?
[05:06] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: do you have an nvidia card?
[05:06] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> carpediem: yes
[05:06] <carpediem> Hawaiian_Eskimo: then yes.  Karmic?
[05:06] <Laughing_God> How do i open Advanced Desktop Effects Settings in ubuntu?
[05:07] <defcon> #remote-exploit
[05:07] <Hawaiian_Eskimo> 9.04. not up with the release names so i wouldn't know
[05:07] <blenderpc4> 0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel                       HDA Intel at 0xf0700000 irq 22
[05:07] <ae86-drifter> Hawaiian_Eskimo: the nvidia drivers are the only proprietry software i use, because its much better
[05:07] <carpediem> Laughing_God: as I said already, install compizconfig-settings-manager
[05:07] <sjines> Hey! Is there something wrong with the OS?
[05:07] <carpediem> blenderpc4: ahh...I think I know your problem....give me a minute, I'll have some direction for you.
[05:07] <sjines> Should I have had access to the thing you are telling me?
[05:07] <webbb82> Satz, thats n ot it the one i was messing with yesterday had a gui interface all i had to do is click on a box to check/uncheck
[05:07] <Bluey> Laughing_God: System/Preferences/Appearance/Visual Effects
[05:07] <durt> Laughing_God, you must have a 3d card _and_ 3d drivers enabled.
[05:07] <blenderpc4> I love this chatroom...so many answers
[05:08] <SoftwareExplorer> Laughing_God: or go to System>Preferences>CompizConfig Settings Manager
[05:08] <ae86-drifter> System/Preferences/Appearance/Visual Effects/ Compiz Settings Manager
[05:08] <Laughing_God> ok
[05:08] <ae86-drifter> and tick every box
[05:08] <Doc_Lappy> can somebody tell me real quick how to start apache2 server
[05:08] <ae86-drifter> lol
[05:08] <carpediem> blenderpc4: do you know, is it a 3 stack or a 5 stack Intel sound.  (are there 3 headphone-style output lines, or 5)?
[05:08] <lstarnes> Doc_Lappy: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start
[05:08] <jman_> Does anyone here use 64bit firefox and can successfully use the free LogMeIn service?
[05:09] <Doc_Lappy> k thans lstarnes
[05:09] <ZykoticK9> Doc_Lappy, or "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start"
[05:09] <Bluey> jman_: 64 bit firefox - never heard of that service
[05:09] <blenderpc4> I'm going to feel stupid, but I only see the one, and the one for mic.
[05:09] <carpediem> blenderpc4: including mic and standard out, always 3 or 5.  so we'll go with 3 stack
[05:10] <Doc_Lappy> oh ZykoticK9 that's the one I usually use but couldn't remember it and in a hurry so didn't want to have to google so thanks
[05:10] <unitheory> anyone else having trouble connecting to AIM with pidgin or just me?
[05:10] <ae86-drifter> just you
[05:10] <Bluey> unitheory: nope
[05:10] <FireCrotch> unitheory: AIM is having a problem with their servers right now, I think
[05:10] <TheRealmezquital> !pidgin
[05:10] <FireCrotch> I've had a couple friends ask me if I just got signed off of AIM, and I did
[05:10] <want_to_learn> hi
[05:10] <paulmops> I wonder if MS is running AIMS servers [sic]
[05:10] <Guest2079> hi
[05:10] <blenderpc4> hi
[05:10] <want_to_learn> i have 2 hardisk with ubuntu as a primary and centos as a secondary
[05:10] <Doc_Lappy> carpediem like your name, maybe I almost thought of changing mine to carpenox
[05:11] <want_to_learn> i tried to mount /etc/sdb1 (centos)
[05:11] <TheRealmezquital> unitheory, you might want to go to the pidgin site and see if they have a fix, i've seen pidging have issues every now and then when yahoo or microsoft updates their servers
[05:11] <ae86-drifter> want_to_learn: write your question in one line
[05:11] <ae86-drifter> pls
[05:11] <Bluey> want_to_learn: you have to mount a device not a directory
[05:11] <want_to_learn> but it prints "can't find /etc/sdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[05:11] <Laughing_God> When i type this install compizconfig-settings-manager I got this error missing destination file operand after .......
[05:11] <ae86-drifter> /dev/*
[05:11] <Bluey> like sudo mount /dev/sdb1 <mountpointgoeshere>
[05:11] <jman_> Does anyone here use 64bit firefox and can successfully use the free LogMeIn.com service?
[05:12] <want_to_learn> ok i will try
[05:12] <Bluey> jman_: like I said 64 bit ff yes -- never heard of service...
[05:12] <want_to_learn> special device /etc/sdb doesnt exist
[05:12] <carpediem> blenderpc4: this is the way I resolved my static issues with my Intel sound:  http://wiki.sabayonlinux.org/index.php?title=HOWTO:_Resolve_Problems_With_HDA-INTEL_Sound_Cards
[05:12] <Satz_AFK> logmein is a website
[05:12] <Satz_AFK> allows remote admin of remote pc
[05:12] <ae86-drifter> mkdir the mount destination
[05:12] <want_to_learn> already
[05:12] <SoftwareExplorer> want_to_learn: /dev/sdb, not /etc
[05:12] <blenderpc4> Thanks carpediem, I'll give that a shot
[05:13] <Guest2079> Oo
[05:13] <jman_> yes so anyone use logmein via firefox 64bit?
[05:14] <jman_> or is it difficult to coinstall 32bit Firefox along side of 64bit?
[05:14] <RPG_Master> Why can't I use my Dell Mini 10's full resolution in UNR?
[05:15] <daya> join #edubuntu
[05:16] <acad> is there a way to apt-get / aptitude a package from universe without adding universe permantly to the sources.list file?
[05:16] <acad> * i realized i can add and then remove it
[05:16] <patrick> hi all
[05:16] <Guest6717> hi all
[05:17] <ae86-drifter> jman_ : http://tinyurl.com/ygmhcme
[05:17] <Guest6717> anyone have Java issues?
[05:17] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone tell me how i can delete all my files in my usb.. i just inserted it my friend's system (XP) and now when i try to delete in my system (ubuntu 9.04).. i am unable to do say saying that it has only read permissions..please help
[05:17] <ae86-drifter> no, my java works fine
[05:17] <carpediem> Guest6717: wow, could you be more specific
[05:17] <jman_> ae86-drifter: still aren't good answers
[05:17] <bastid_raZor> acad: aptitude can do this.. i saw that in the manpage for aptitude. let me find the actual syntax to use.
[05:17] <Guest6717> chmod on the files
[05:17] <Guest6717> sudo, then chmod the files
[05:18] <clau> cenaaaa
[05:18] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: You could do Alt+F2 then put in gksudo nautilus. Then you will have all the powers!
[05:18] <jman_> eh i'll play some more we'll see
[05:19] <carpediem> ae86-drifter:  lol, that's nice, I'll have to remember that.  You get to be a smarta## and helpful at the same time.
[05:19] <ae86-drifter> carpediem: hehe, its nice isn't it
[05:19] <ctmjr> that is not helpful
[05:19] <bastid_raZor> acad: aptitude install packagename/universe   .. you'll need to enable universe before doing so. then disable afterwards
[05:19] <carpediem> haha
[05:19] <ae86-drifter> i know it isnt but i cant resist
[05:19] <SoftwareExplorer> I'm always afraid to open tinyurl links, you don't know what is behind them
[05:19] <PerryArmstrong> SoftwareExplorer; i did that still i am unable to delete
[05:20] <ynk> how can i check which GTK+ version i have?
[05:20] <clau> ubuntu is power
[05:20] <acad> bastid_raZor thanks man! i'll look at that and see if it does what i want
[05:20] <carpediem> SoftwareExplorer: I'm always afraid to open them on Windows....in Linux I don't sweat the little things
[05:20] <clau> pots
[05:20] <jbuncher> Can anyone point me to a solution for cross-platform encryption?  I want to be able to encrypt a folder on a fat32 flash drive that I can decrypt in windows without admin rights, that should also be decryptable in ubuntu
[05:20] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: Hmm, that usually does the trick for me
[05:21] <bastid_raZor> acad: that is actually on page 1 of man aptitude
[05:21] <acad> jbuncher: truecrypt- although it doesn't do folders-it creates an image and that images shows up as a drive letter.
[05:21] <clau> bye boys
[05:21] <SoftwareExplorer> carpediem: Not that it's terrifying, just that I consider who it's from first
[05:21] <PerryArmstrong> SoftwareExplorer; i tried the chmod 777 * but still i can't change the permissions with su powers
[05:21] <MikeChelen> jbuncher: check out encfs for linux and freeotfe for windows, truecrypt is good too
[05:22] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: do you know where the usb is mounted?
[05:22] <acad> bastid_raZor: i'm not sure this does what i need actually. i didn't see it in the man page i looked at either.. going to take a closer look.
[05:22] <ae86-drifter> ynk: http://tinyurl.com/yh3y8mk
[05:22] <raeldenk> hi everybody
[05:22] <PerryArmstrong> SoftwareExplorer; yup in /media/
[05:22] <jbuncher> MikeChelen, acad :  does truecrypt need to be installed on the windows machine, or can it be run from the usb disk?
[05:22] <zetwale69> hi everybody
[05:22] <raeldenk> does hotmail work for you ?
[05:22] <bastid_raZor> acad: look for /<archive>
[05:22] <zetwale69> I am a newbie to ubuntu
[05:23] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: how si the media formatted?
[05:23] <acad> jbuncher: it can be run from a usb flash drive...
[05:23] <zetwale69> have not used it much
[05:23] <Bluey> zetwale69: how can we help?
[05:23] <PerryArmstrong> SoftwareExplorer; in the sense....
[05:23] <zetwale69> i have a question about using applications from ubuntu server console
[05:23] <zetwale69> i would like to launch gui apps without having to start kde or gnome. Is this possible?
[05:23] <stebalien> ynk:  run 'aptitude show libgtk2.0-0'
[05:24] <acad> bastid_raZor: i spotted it. thanks.
[05:24] <biovore> zetwale69: sorta..  need to start X still..
[05:24] <biovore> zetwale69: unless you X forward.
[05:24] <Bluey> zetwale69: not thinking of a whay...
[05:24] <ynk> stebalien, thank you.
[05:24] <thedude42> zetwale69, well, you kinda need something handling X in order to launch gui apps.... you can use a different window manager if you prefer
[05:24] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: I thing if you do df -h it will tell you where it is mounted exactly, then you could cd to it and us rm to delete specific files
[05:25] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: how is the USB media formatted?
[05:25] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: ext3? fat32? fat16? ntfs? what?
[05:25] <jbuncher> acad, how can I run truecrypt from the flashdrive without it being installed on the main system?
[05:25] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: like this cd /media/where-the-disk-is-mouted then sudo rm <thefileIwanttogetridof>
[05:26] <ae86-drifter> or is it fat12?
[05:26] <zetwale69> im ok to use X but do not want to launch gnome or kde
[05:26] <Bluey> ae86-drifter: ahh a floppy....
[05:26] <zetwale69> I mean, when apps are created for Linux, are they bound to a specific window manager or can they just all run from X
[05:26] <ae86-drifter> hehe
[05:26] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; well i dont know about that how can i know
[05:26] <acad> jbuncher: do you mean from ubuntu/GNU/Linux or ms windows? I know from MS Windows you can do it without it being installed. from gnu/linux i'm pretty sure you can do it via the command line somehow. i'm not really too sure of the details though.
[05:26] <Bluey> zetwale69: off the top of my head, it would be like trying to run a windows gui app without windows
[05:27] <beta_> I have a question if anyone is available to help
[05:27] <zetwale69> that's it. Can we do that?
[05:27] <Bluey> beta_: shoot!
[05:27] <MikeChelen> zetwale69: some only require x, while others use GTK or QT
[05:27] <Bluey> zetwale69: not to my knowledge
[05:27] <ae86-drifter> you will still need the gnome libraries installed or whatever
[05:27] <ae86-drifter> whichever it uses
[05:27] <jbuncher> acad, ok, thanks, I'll look around the docs
[05:27] <beta_> I have a Belkin wireless G plus MIMO card that will not connect..
[05:27] <zetwale69> oh, so I would need GTK or QT or both running, right?
[05:27] <acad> jbuncher: http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=truecrypt-portable
[05:27] <ae86-drifter> nah just installed
[05:27] <[nig]aer0nz> sup #ubuntu, i use FEDORA, halp pls.
[05:28] <vox> zetwale69: X is the back-end of the gui. gnome/kde/fluxbox/etc are the front end. you cant run a gui app without a front-end in the same way you cant drive a car without wheels
[05:28] <beta_> it responds with no ndiswrapper.. which was a surprise.. but will not connect.
[05:28] <Bluey> I am not the wireless guy...
[05:28] <jbuncher> acad, thanks!
[05:28] <ZykoticK9> zetwale69, FYI it is "generally" not a good idea to have a GUI on a server OS, you did say you're using "server" didn't you?
[05:28] <ae86-drifter> i know wireless
[05:28] <zetwale69> got it! thanks for that.
[05:28] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok, SoftwareExplorer; check this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/292070/
[05:28] <beta_> any help would be greatly appreciated
[05:28] <vox> ZykoticK9: err. why is it not a good idea?
[05:28] <[nig]aer0nz> GUISE
[05:28] <[nig]aer0nz> HOW DO I GET BETTER FPS
[05:28] <[nig]aer0nz> <- ATIFAG
[05:28] <FloodBot1> [nig]aer0nz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:29] <[nig]aer0nz> wat
[05:29] <ae86-drifter> beta_ did you type iwconfig?
[05:29] <ae86-drifter> what does it say?
[05:29] <SoftwareExplorer> ZykoticK9: Out of curiosity, why? (Because I do that)
[05:29] <zetwale69> what I want to do is this: I have installed a linux server, do not want to run a gui but would like users to access a GUI application remotely
[05:29] <beta_> No.. i didnt
[05:29] <ae86-drifter> does it say wlan0 enabled or similair?
[05:29] <ae86-drifter> do it
[05:29] <beta_> yes
[05:29] <beta_> it even shows networks..
[05:29] <ae86-drifter> whats the interface name?
[05:29] <Bluey> zetwale69: hmm
[05:29] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: mount | grep \/media
[05:29] <stebalien> zetwale69:  You need the QT/GTK libraries to run apps made to use them. You never need gnome/KDE/XFCE etc; these are just collections of programs. The window manager is only needed if you want to be able to move your windows around and close them.
[05:29] <zetwale69> I do not need the users to access the whole desktop, just that app, or several apps
[05:29] <beta_> not sure what you mean..
[05:30] <ae86-drifter> paste the return from iwconfig
[05:30] <beta_> I will.. brb
[05:30] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; ok i did it in the terminal...
[05:30] <ZykoticK9> vox, you "can" do it but generally the less software you have running on a "server" the better.  Adding a GUI introduces a lot of possible security holes, unnessecarily.  You of course can do it, I mean Solaris runs with a GUI now.  But, "serious" servers don't come with GUIs!
[05:30] <vox> zetwale69: it doesnt/cant/wont work that way
[05:30] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: you have it mounted as read only-why didn't I think of that?!!
[05:31] <beta_> i will have to disconnect and reconnect on the laptop..
[05:31] <wynnerman> how do you mount a NTFS HDD
[05:31] <beta_> brb
[05:31] <PerryArmstrong> SoftwareExplorer; usually it automounts and i do have full permissions...but this time i dont know how it got changed
[05:31] <Bluey> if you try gedit at the terminal prompt it complains about gtk
[05:31] <Bluey> i.e. ctrl+alt+f1
[05:31] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: and what did it tell you?
[05:31] <jbuncher> acad, damn, looks like truecrypt needs to be installed on the system in order for the driver to load
[05:31] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; http://paste.ubuntu.com/292072/
[05:32] <acad> jbuncher: on ms windows?
[05:32] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: I'm not real mount savvy, maybe someone else can help
[05:32] <zetwale69> ok. So if I have an application server running on ubuntu, and want remote users to access an application, then I need to feed them a whole desktop
[05:32] <jbuncher> acad, doesn't seem like there's any way around being a non-admin on a machine that doesn't have truecrypt installed.  yeah, windows.
[05:32] <bastid_raZor> !ntfs | wynnerman
[05:32] <acad> jbuncher: i know back in the day you could run truecrypt without being an admin- but that was in ms window 9x
[05:32] <PerryArmstrong> SoftwareExplorer; okk thx for offering me your help
[05:32] <jbuncher> acad, http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=truecrypt-portable
[05:32] <acad> jbuncher: of course 9x didn't have "admin" really
[05:32] <stebalien> zetwale69:  you can use xinit (from the commandline) to run just a bare bones X server with a few apps. Without a window manager, your users will not be able to switch between windows.
[05:32] <ae86-drifter> hehe "mount savvy"
[05:32] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: sudo umount /dev/sdb1 $$ sudo fsck.vfat -yf /dev/sdb1
[05:32] <SoftwareExplorer> PerryArmstrong: Your Welcome :)
[05:33] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: when that completes, remove the USB disk and plug it in again
[05:33] <jbuncher> acad, looks like you can run it without the admin, but an admin needs to have installed it to the system previously.
[05:33] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: errrrr
[05:33] <ynk> i'm trying to install an app called Geany. i found an old version in Synaptic. i decided to download an archive of the newer version from their site and now i'm having some trouble installing it. i have tried "sh ./configure" but i'm always encountering one error or another...
[05:33] <wynnerman> thanks ﻿ ubottu
[05:33] <jbuncher> acad, sorry, that link didn't update
[05:33] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo fsck.vfat -yf /dev/sdb1
[05:33] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: sorry, fat fingers
[05:33] <ZykoticK9> zetwale69, see ssh and X forwarding - they could log into terminal (with X-forwarding) then start GUI apps runing on your computer and displayed on their's (no KDG/GNOME required)
[05:33] <acad> jbuncher: how things have changed.. i'm not really surprised though. it is a driver after all.
[05:33] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; hehe
[05:33] <PerryArmstrong> :)
[05:34] <jbuncher> acad, yeah, just sucks.
[05:34] <acad> jbuncher: well virtual driver anyway
[05:34] <acad> jbuncher: what are you trying to do?
[05:34] <zetwale69> yes that is what I would like
[05:34] <zetwale69> use X forwarding or something and have them use one or more apps remotely
[05:34] <acad> jbuncher: i'm a hacker at heart and it sounds like it would be more fun to just run linux on these machines :)
[05:34] <zetwale69> I will have to do some more research on this then
[05:35] <MikeChelen> zetwale69: if it on a local network x forwarding is good, for connection across the internet freenx or vnc is better
[05:35] <zetwale69> i was actually looking at freenx
[05:35] <acad> jbuncher: maybe make yourself a windows themed linux disc for school- or something.
[05:35] <ZykoticK9> zetwale69, see SSH and X-forwarding for further detail (pretty easy to get going).  Hint for clients you might need "ssh -Y your_host_name", good luck.
[05:35] <defcon> #remote-exploit
[05:35] <jbuncher> acad, help out a friend's wife.  She wants to be able to encrypt sensitive patient info on a flash drive so she can use/edit the docs on campus and at home.  At home, she uses ubuntu.  On campus, it's all computer labs where they're locked down, so you can't install anything and you don't have admin rights.
[05:35] <zetwale69> i know that freenx allows a floating window for one app
[05:35] <acad> jbuncher: or whereever you plan to use it
[05:35] <MikeChelen> zetwale69: freenx is one of the best options for remote desktop
[05:35] <mnaines> jbuncher: Here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nimbus-Aero+Improved+?content=113537
[05:36] <m0r0n> My spell check wont work on OO Writer, anyone know how to fix that?
[05:36] <zetwale69> all right, thanks again everybody. this has been very useful
[05:36] <mnaines> acad, PM me for a sec...I can guarantee you'll laugh at this
[05:36] <zetwale69> cheers
[05:36] <MikeChelen> ssh forwarding works best on 100mbit+ lan
[05:36] <acad> jbuncher: ohh. hmm interesting problem. does the employer encryption only work on ms windows?
[05:36] <jbuncher> acad, my friend tried a "two partition" approach, but windows is beyond stupid and doesn't recognize the 2nd partition on flash drives.
[05:36] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; when i try the 1st command it says device is busy
[05:37] <jbuncher> acad, this wouldn't be employer encryption, just personal, so we can choose anything that works, as long as it's accessible from windows with zero admin stuff at all, and on linux as a non-admin (after a linux admin has installed and set up certain things)
[05:37] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: sudo umount -l /dev/sdb1 && sudo fsck.vfat -yf /dev/sdb1
[05:38] <Quasarj> hrm
[05:38] <mneptok> jbuncher: could you just zip the directory and encrypt that?
[05:38] <acad> jbuncher: i'm surprised the employer doesn't mandate the encryption
[05:39] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; isn't working after i did as you said
[05:39] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; i mean i am still unable to delete
[05:39] <acad> jbuncher: it seems like you are probably going to be very very limited in terms of encryption options
[05:39] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: pull the drive fro the USB port. plug it in again. then run that command i gave you.
[05:39] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: ah
[05:39] <jbuncher> acad, they might mandate that it *be* encrypted, but I don't think they mandate the details.  mneptok :  not sure, what would do the encrypting/decrypting in windows without admin rights?  Is there a native solution in linux that would be compatible?
[05:40] <acad> jbuncher: http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/7-zip_portable
[05:40] <jbuncher> acad, yeah, that's what it seems.  My poor friend has been trying to figure this out for days.  He's going crazy.
[05:40] <mneptok> jbuncher: GPG encrypts files, but directories are trickier. so archive the dir and encrypt that single file with GPG.
[05:40] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: the disk is being mounted read-only. did you mess with /etc.fstab at all?
[05:40] <mneptok>  /etc/fstab
[05:41] <acad> mneptok: that might work but he needs a portable version of gpg i think then for windows
[05:41] <zahid> need regarding pyNeighborhood in xubuntu
[05:41] <acad> jbuncher: i'm going to bet that 7-zip portable version would work for you.
[05:41] <wynnerman> Is there an easier way to mount a drive
[05:42] <mnaines> I just had this really bad daydream about Linux...It was a nightmare
[05:42] <acad> jbuncher: the only question is how do unzip within gnu/linux without using the command line
[05:42] <n8tuser> jbuncher-> umm, you can run from a livecd,  not installing anything on the machine.... on livecd one can use openoffice but may require a download to the usb...
[05:42] <ae86-drifter> mount -o loop disk1.iso /mnt/disk
[05:42] <PerryArmstrong> tried it out still not working mate: here's what i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/292076/
[05:42] <jbuncher> acad, I'm looking at that, though I'm not seeing any obvious encryption.  am I missing something?  mneptok :  I'll look into that, haven't really used gpg before.  Is that something where the friend's wife would have to use a command line?
[05:42] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; tried it out still not working mate: here's what i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/292076/
[05:42] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; no i didnt mess with that code
[05:42] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: what was it?
[05:43] <acad> jbuncher: http://www.7-zip.org/ (you have to click the read more link)
[05:43] <glicks> is anyone running ubuntu on a eeepc netbook?
[05:43] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: I dreamed that Microsoft took Ubuntu, made this http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Nimbus-Aero+Improved+?content=113537 the default theme and called it Windows
[05:43] <n8tuser> glicks-> ive installed it on a friends, hp 1101 netbook
[05:44] <m0r0n> n8tuser: How's the battery consumption?
[05:44] <jbuncher> acad, thanks, missed that 4th bullet
[05:45] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: Good thing that the FSF exists, even if i'm not as radical as them, I know they would make a ton of noise if that happend
[05:45] <jbuncher> I'm going to try that out
[05:45] <mnaines> FSF?
[05:45] <glicks> jbuncher, are you john bunch?
[05:45] <n8tuser> m0r0n-> i dont know, i  dont own it, i have to ask my friend
[05:45] <jbuncher> glicks, "John Bunch"?  Nope.
[05:45] <glicks> heh ok jbuncher
[05:45] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: Free Software Foundation, the GNU guys, the GPL licence writers
[05:45] <acad> SoftwareExplorer: so true. We need guys like stallman and the fsf as insane as some of their positions.
[05:46] <wynnerman> I saw a youtube vid on how to do it and That looks nothing like it. Hell, I have no idea what i am looking at
[05:46] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: Its only a matter of time before MS does something like that, though
[05:46] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; any idea
[05:47] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: they might be to proud to admit they failed to make a good OS
[05:47] <sebsebseb> mnaines: You asked what FSF is?
[05:47] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: And if they do this, they can easily avoid having to admit that
[05:47] <mnaines> sebsebseb: I have never been good at deciphering abbreviations
[05:47] <jbuncher> glicks, who is john bunch?
[05:48] <sebsebseb> mnaines: Free Software Foundation
[05:48] <glicks> jbuncher, heh hes my brother :)
[05:48] <ae86-drifter> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=FSF
[05:48] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: I guess they could sell it, but anyone could make copies that were identical legally, so the free marked would make the disks like a dollar
[05:48] <jbuncher> acad, not get off topic, but they don't seem to be that insane in most of their positions.
[05:48] <jbuncher> glicks, unless your name is Mike, I'm not your brother then :)
[05:48] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: PM me...I can make you laugh
[05:49] <invitingdopeman> weres the weed at?
[05:49] <SoftwareExplorer> mnaines: uhh, I'm new to IRC , how do I do that?
[05:49] <acad> jbuncher: ohh i'd agree. i think the fsf and stallman both make some very good points regarding non-free software. non-free software is hurting our community.
[05:49] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: my guess is that the filesystem on the device is corrupted. you need to fix it with fsck.
[05:49] <mnaines> SoftwareExplorer: Right click on my name then click IM
[05:49] <glicks> hey does anyone have any disk excryption experience on a netbook? is it still usable or does it crawn to an unusalble rate
[05:49] <glicks> or even just /home encryption
[05:49] <sebsebseb> SoftwareExplorer: you were also off topic, but it was a  slightly interesting one I guess
[05:50] <sebsebseb> !ot > SoftwareExplorer
[05:50] <wynnerman> Is there an easy way to flash your Bios with Ubuntu
[05:50] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; so how do i do that
[05:50] <wynnerman> like mabe a program in synantpic
[05:50] <ae86-drifter> use wine
[05:50] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: close the terminal. unmount the disk. remove it from the computer. plug it back in. open a terminal. then "sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && sudo fsck.vfat -yf /dev/sdb1" (no quotes)
[05:50] <Beastmode> hey guys, is there a option for ubuntu to keep incomplete files like there is in winrar for windows? i usually download about 5-10 rars of a movie to check quality by extractng just those first 5-10 rars then i can tell whether i should waste bandwith or not cause im on a 60gig limit by isp
[05:50] <glicks> wynnerman, i flashed my bios on ubuntu, but with a bootable usb stick
[05:50] <wynnerman> tried and it didnt do anything
[05:50] <acad> jbuncher: the problem i think with excluding non-free software completely is that we never get to the point where gnu/linux is feasible for the masses.
[05:50] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: if you get messages about the device being busy, you have problems.
[05:50] <invitingdopeman> does anybody know how to have 2 hard drives going at once
[05:51] <JabDesign> does Ubuntu support any type of disk encryption for the filesystem (I guess more of a linux question)..
[05:51] <JabDesign> er kernel question
[05:51] <ae86-drifter> invitingdopeman: yes, are they plugged into your motherboard?
[05:51] <mneptok> JabDesign: yes
[05:51] <mneptok> JabDesign: use the alternate install CD
[05:51] <joebodo> -jabdesign should be an option during install to encrypt home dir
[05:51] <Satzo> wynnerman: IMHO, no.
[05:52] <JabDesign> joebodo: on the base CD or this alternate install CD?
[05:52] <vox> invitingdopeman: weed?
[05:52] <invitingdopeman> would i hook it up to the slave drive
[05:52] <panfist> what reasons are there for choosing ubuntu over centos for an internet-facing server?
[05:52] <joebodo> jabdesign base
[05:52] <ae86-drifter> invitingdopeman: yes, if it is an IDE drive
[05:52] <mneptok> panfist: same package management
[05:52] <ae86-drifter> invitingdopeman: sata or IDE?
[05:52] <mneptok> panfist: *sane
[05:52] <glicks> hey is there a channel for ubuntu netbook?
[05:52] <joebodo> jabdesign if you want the entire file system encrypted - it might be alternate - i have not tried that
[05:52] <invitingdopeman> whats an IDE drive
[05:52] <Beastmode> guys any way i can keep incomplete files in archive manager extractions like there is a option in winrar?
[05:52] <panfist> mneptok meaning debs instead of rpms
[05:52] <ynk> "No package 'gtk+-2.0' found! Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you installed software in a non-standard prefix. Alternatively, you may set the environment variables GTK_CFLAGS and GTK_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config." my goodness, what does it mean?
[05:52] <mneptok> panfist: exactly
[05:53] <MikeChelen> JabDesign: regular cd can do home directory encryption, whole disk encryption requires alt install cd
[05:53] <mneptok> panfist: what is the piurpose of the server?
[05:53] <mneptok> -i
[05:53] <sebsebseb> mneptok: Why are Debs apparantly better than RPM's?
[05:53] <Satzo> yes alternate .iso has encrypton option
[05:53] <ae86-drifter> invitingdopeman: did you install the drive into your PC
[05:53] <wynnerman> Because I flashed My bios with Vista with an update for my mobo and now I get the blue screen of death whenever I try to boot Vista
[05:53] <vigo> invitingdopeman: That might be better answered in #hardware.
[05:53] <glicks> is there a netbook remix chat?
[05:53] <mneptok> sebsebseb: circular dependencies are extremely rare with .deb, not true for .rpm
[05:53] <anna-bham> invitingdopeman, OMG, is that a real question?  What's an IDE drive?
[05:54] <sebsebseb> mneptok: What does that mean?
[05:54] <invitingdopeman> no its from another computer
[05:54] <wynnerman> lo fucking l
[05:54] <Satzo> wynnerman: does a live OS work alright?
[05:54] <panfist> mneptok apache, rdbms, python; ssh;
[05:54] <scunizi> wynnerman: #windows might be able to answer that one.. not here though
[05:54] <MikeChelen> invitingdopeman: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Drive_Electronics
[05:54] <joebodo> glicks not that i know of - you should be able to ask your questions here
[05:54] <wynnerman> ya
[05:54] <invitingdopeman> anna-bham im new to this stuff
[05:54] <ae86-drifter> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=IDE
[05:54] <mneptok> panfist: i'd use a .deb based distro for such stuff
[05:54] <wynnerman> I installed Ubuntu hoping I could flash it from here
[05:54] <anna-bham> Um, an ide cable is that big ass one with all the pins, unlike sata
[05:54] <mneptok> sebsebseb: you're a big boy. you know how to Google. :)
[05:54] <Beastmode> so anyone know what im talking about?
[05:54] <FireCrotch> wynnerman: please watch your language, this is a family friendly channel
[05:55] <glicks> well i was just wondering the performance hit of using encryption on a netbook
[05:55] <sebsebseb> wynnerman: Try not to swear in the channel :)
[05:55] <MikeChelen> invitingdopeman: it is one of the standard hardware interface formats, often used by hard disk drives and cd-rom drives
[05:55] <Satzo> Beastmode we do but thats not really an ubuntu ?
[05:55] <ae86-drifter> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=circular+dependencies
[05:55] <panfist> mneptok what about centos vs. ubuntu for a deployment of many workstations
[05:55] <anna-bham> Is "big ass" OK for family friendly stuff?
[05:55] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; i get device is busy
[05:55] <jbuncher> acad, while true, that should only be used as a stop-gap.
[05:55] <mneptok> Beastmode: i do, but i'm appalled people archive formats that are *already compressed*
[05:55] <invitingdopeman> thanks mike
[05:55] <wynnerman> this is coming from a user with their name as FIRE CROTCH
[05:55] <Satzo> mneptok: same.
[05:55] <FireCrotch> anna-bham: if you have to ask, the answer is most likely "no"
[05:55] <wynnerman> grow up
[05:55] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: that disk has very serious filesystem problems, then
[05:55] <ae86-drifter> the standard is SATA now :P
[05:55] <jbuncher> acad, trying to get 7zip to re-password protect the archive once I've opened it.........
[05:55] <acad> bastid_raZor: "sudo aptitude install multisync-tools/universe" doesn't do what i'm looking for.... so it seems. i'm not really sure what it is doing actually.
[05:55] <ae86-drifter> isnt it?
[05:55] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; whats the dolution
[05:55] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; whats the solution
[05:56] <sebsebseb> mneptok: I could Google, but I expect you could also just tell me
[05:56] <Satzo> ...
[05:56] <ae86-drifter> sebsebseb: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=FSF
[05:56] <acad> bastid_raZor: i think it is the enabling that i want it to do...
[05:56] <Beastmode> so anyway i can download lets say 5 rars of the moves extract it and watch about first 2 mins to see quality? that is how i usually have done it in the past. im sorry for asking noob questions but i've used windows all my life
[05:56] <sebsebseb> ae86-drifter: no not that,  that was earlier, and not related
[05:56] <mneptok> sebsebseb: OK, i'll stop helping users with problems so that you can be lazy. oh, wait. no i won't. :)
[05:56] <ae86-drifter> sebsebseb: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=chow+to+use+google
[05:56] <ae86-drifter> it was a typo
[05:56] <Beastmode> there is a option in winrar for windows to "keep incomplete file"
[05:57] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: got a machine with Windows?
[05:57] <Crucible> HI....Could someone help me with my Skype please? mic is not working in skype
[05:57] <wynnerman> ya
[05:57] <ae86-drifter> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=skype+linux
[05:57] <Satzo> Beastmode: VLC(i think) allows you to view inside .rar
[05:57] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; nope...but i'll try it at elsewhere...tell me what to do
[05:57] <acad> bastid_raZor: then again maybe it does... hmm
[05:57] <joebodo> unrar -kb possibly
[05:57] <joebodo> from "man unrar"
[05:57] <mneptok> PerryArmstrong: see if Windows' chkdsk app can fix that filesystem
[05:58] <docmax> hello... how can i reanme device names?? i have sda1 sda3 and sda4... want to rename to sda1 sda2 sda3
[05:58] <jbuncher> Crucible, is it a built-in mic, or one that's attached to your webcam?
[05:58] <Beastmode> satzo ok i have vlc, ill try that and let u know
[05:58] <anna-bham> sebsebseb, You don't know how many freaking hours we have googled to fix our stuff.  Sometimes you have to suck it up and research
[05:58] <PerryArmstrong> mneptok; okk
[05:58] <vigo> Beastmode: Have you tried the torrents or FTP applications?
[05:58] <vox> docmax: for what purpose?
[05:58] <Crucible> its a platronic headset
[05:58] <lilzeus> hey all, I am running more than website from my apache2 server, which file do I modify for the virtual hosting?
[05:58] <glicks> will koala be more efficient on netbooks?
[05:58] <docmax> vox, just for correct order
[05:58] <lilzeus> more than 1, that is
[05:58] <Crucible> the one that has a jack for sound and mic
[05:58] <sebsebseb> ae86-drifter: some people don't like the let me Google that for you site,  also I didn't see anyone ask about Skype on Linux
[05:58] <joebodo> beastmode try unrar -kb <filename>
[05:59] <Crucible> i can hear myself but when i did a skype test call it does not detect it
[05:59] <vox> docmax: they're in the order that udev discovered them in.. you cant really re-arrange them
[05:59] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: You would want to make a new file in /etc/apache2/sites-available for the new virtual host, then activate it by doing "sudo a2ensite thenewfilename"
[05:59] <vigo> joebodo: Thank you.
[05:59] <Beastmode> Satzo, vlc doesnt allow it
[05:59] <vox> sebsebseb: read back about 30 lines
[05:59] <Beastmode> vigo, im using Klibido
[05:59] <Beastmode> Joebodo, ill try that
[05:59] <anna-bham> I haven't used Skype since a test on an XO lat year
[05:59] <Beastmode> would i run that command in terminal?
[05:59] <docmax> vox, i have old links to sda2 which s now sda3.. i REALLY have to change it back
[06:00] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: I suggest searching for "apache name-based virtual hosting"
[06:00] <vox> docmax: why are you linking the device and not the mount point?
[06:00] <lilzeus> FireCrotch: ok, I have made the new file, but the configuration seems quite different from the way the virtual server files were configured under windows apache2
[06:00] <Satzo> Beastmode,  yes
[06:00] <glicks> will karmic koala be more efficient on netbooks?
[06:00] <sebsebseb> anna-bham: fortunatly I have good hardware, and so I haven't  needed to Google to find out how to configure stuff.   Also I was asking someone something in particular, something I didn't even know about before.
[06:00] <Crucible> when i go to options all it gives me is PULSEAUDIO SERVER local
[06:00] <joebodo> crucible are you using skype 2.1.0.47 ? i know that this version was supposed to address some sound issues
[06:00] <lilzeus> FireCrotch: like the example 'default' file is quite different
[06:01] <Netizen1993> hi all.. is anyone here familiar with icecast2 and ices2 setup?
[06:01] <Crucible> yeah 2.1.0.47
[06:01] <Crucible> should i uninstall it?
[06:01] <jbuncher> acad, thanks for the portable 7zip suggestion, looks like that won't work though.  The portable app just so happens to remember the password to decrypt the archive, which somewhat defeats the purpose.
[06:01] <docmax> vox, anyway.. i cant change them now'?
[06:01] <anna-bham> sebsebseb, You wouldn't believe what comes up on the Google for your issues.  Yeah, it takes a long time, but you'll eventually find your solutions
[06:01] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: I've never seen the file on Windows, so I don't know what it's like.  Ubuntu's default file works just fine. I would suggest copying that, and modifying it for the new host
[06:02] <joebodo> crucible my skype uses pulseaudo server (local) for mic and speakers
[06:02] <Satzo> anna-bham: agreed/
[06:02] <Beastmode> joebodo, no go
[06:02] <wizzo50> Hi, How can you go back to Adobe Flash 9.0 when there is sites that still require it to run?
[06:02] <Crucible> ok i will try uninstalling it and use the old version
[06:02] <joebodo> beastmode have you taken a look at the man page for unrar - there's quite a few options
[06:02] <sebsebseb> anna-bham: I have used Google for  searching for stuff before, but of course,  and yes it can be rather useless at times  with not exactly the correct keywords
[06:02] <Satzo> wizzo50, you mean latest flash wont load the page?
[06:02] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: The most important thing you'll need is ServerName yourdomain.com  in the new file, and ServerName yourotherdomain.com in the default file
[06:03] <wizzo50> Right
[06:03] <anna-bham> Netizen1993, I installed icecast on my  server a long time ago
[06:03] <vox> docmax: in a word, no. it's bad foo to hardlink to block devices, as the device ID can change depdning one what drives are connected/disconnected at boot time. this is why UUID's came about
[06:03] <Satzo> you certain its not your rig?  can you pm me the url?
[06:03] <Beastmode> ye i opened the rar with archive manager to look at options but didnt see one that would indicate "keep incomplete file"
[06:03] <anna-bham> Netizen1993, But, I broke it doing an upgrade and haven't bothered to fix it yet
[06:03] <Netizen1993> anna-bham: i'm having some problems..
[06:03] <vigo> sebsebseb: Scroogle it! -com is a great little trick.
[06:03] <Netizen1993> think you could take a peek at what I'm seeing?
[06:03] <lilzeus> FireCrotch: that is what I am doing, it just seems so different, and there are many more lines that I expected and some missing...like ServerName
[06:03] <Netizen1993> anna-bham: I have icecast2 setup http://www.our-bazar.net:8000
 but I'm having extreme issues with ices2
 here's my log output
 http://www.pastebin.ca/1617249
 here's my configuration file
[06:03] <FloodBot1> Netizen1993: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:03] <anna-bham> Netizen1993, icecast is hella annoying to set up
[06:04] <sebsebseb> vigo: oh?
[06:04] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: what kind of stuff did you expect?
[06:04] <vigo> sebsebseb: I use scroogle as start page, is great and fast.
[06:04] <hans> Netizen1993: I might be able to help you set up icecast, I did it on my debian server. what build are you using?
[06:04] <lilzeus> FireCrotch: well, maybe a handful of commands
[06:04] <sebsebseb> vigo: I didn't know about it
[06:04] <wizzo50> Satzo: You know what Farkle is on facebook? When I go to play it, it won't load the game like I was before I upgrade to Flash 10. There is also some music players I was trying today that wouldn't load too because of this.
[06:04] <Netizen1993> what do you mean hans?  build.
[06:05] <vigo> sebsebseb: You do now.
[06:05] <Netizen1993> I'm using LinuxMint..
[06:05] <Netizen1993> ubuntu variant
[06:05] <lilzeus> servername, document root, serveradmin, etc
[06:05] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: ubuntu's default apache config is very basic :)  There are more configuration directives in (I believe) httpd.conf, as well
[06:05] <vigo> sebsebseb: URL is : http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm
[06:05] <hans> Netizen1993: x86 x64?
[06:05] <Netizen1993> x86
[06:05] <lilzeus> my httpd.conf file is empty
[06:06] <FireCrotch> lilzeus: my apologies, it's apache2.conf
[06:06] <biovore> lilzeus: try apache.conf
[06:06] <Netizen1993> hans: may I im you?
[06:06] <hans> Netizen1993: pastebin me your config file and your output of when you try and run icecast2
[06:06] <Netizen1993> hans: http://www.pastebin.ca/1617249
[06:06] <hans> Netizen1993: I have my PM blocker turned on right now
[06:07] <Netizen1993> hans: http://pastebin.ca/1617251
[06:07] <likemindead> HALP PLZ. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/292083/
[06:07] <likemindead> How do I turn my wireless back on? It broke after my wife accidentally hit suspend. 0__o
[06:07] <hans> Netizen1993: are you trying to install ices or icecast2?
[06:08] <Netizen1993> hans: already have ices2 and icecast2 installed
[06:08] <Netizen1993> hans: www.our-bazar.net:8000
[06:08] <Satzo> likemindead, are you using WiCD?
[06:08] <hans> Netizen1993: what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[06:08] <likemindead> I tried Wicd too. No fix. Back with network-manager now. Still nothing.
[06:08] <Netizen1993> just get a working stream that has sound.  almost had it earlier tonight.. active stream but no sound..
[06:09] <Netizen1993> after that I haven't had any luck getting it going since. :(
[06:09] <Satzo> what does ifconfig -a tell you about wireless adapter?
[06:09] <hans> Netizen1993: run off the server, or a live show?
[06:09] <anna-bham> likemindead, Have you checked the bios to make sure wifi was enabled?
[06:09] <Satzo> and did you tell WiCD to see it also?
[06:09] <Netizen1993> well.. it would be a live show I guess.
[06:10] <ari_stress> hi guys, whats hot
[06:10] <likemindead> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/292087/
[06:11] <qdb> hello . i have installed samba and shared a folder. how to see it in windows
[06:11] <anna-bham> Speaking of wifi, I broke my partner's wifi even though I edited menu.lst and we're running eeebuntu.  He's used to Windoze stuff, so he blames me cause he had to run Linux.
[06:11] <hans> Netizen1993: if it's a live cast, you don't need ices at all. regardless, start over from scratch using this guide: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_webradio_with_icecast2_ices2
[06:12] <anna-bham> Icecast is really cool.  I used to stream video and audio from XOs to my user group and they'd watch in fascination at my cats for hours
[06:12] <Netizen1993> I started with that guide.. but they are only setup for local and with a play list..
[06:13] <Netizen1993> I'd be using something like amarok. or mixx
[06:13] <Netizen1993> to make the show.
[06:13] <ruby_on_tails> how can I rotate a pdf doc ?
[06:13] <Netizen1993> and they also talk about ices2 in that howto.
[06:13] <hans> Netizen1993: I used that guide to set mine up, and mine is live show
[06:13] <hans> just follow it, and when you're done, I'll help you from there
[06:14] <qdb> hello . i have installed samba and shared a folder. how to see it in windows
[06:14] <Netizen1993> hans: I'm sorry I'm not trying to be difficlut.. I have been pounding away at this all day.. and I"m no closer now than I was when I started.. I'm extremely frustrated.. so If I sound short it's not personal..
[06:14] <qdb> i see only the windows machine itself in windows
[06:14] <Netizen1993> how do I do this without ices2?
[06:14] <anna-bham> I remember getting icecast running on my Fedora 7 server and I had to compile a bunch of crap
[06:15] <Netizen1993> I have icecast2 up and running
[06:15] <Netizen1993> just I can't connect a stream to it
[06:15] <anna-bham> ices2 is a completely different thing and might need to be compiled, if my drunken self can remember what in the heck I did
[06:15] <Netizen1993> http://our-bazar.net:8000
[06:15] <hans> Netizen1993: you just need to connect your computer to icecast2 and initate a stream
[06:15] <Netizen1993> the player and music and icecast all reside on the same computer
[06:16] <Netizen1993> my server
[06:16] <hans> your local machine is your server?
[06:16] <anna-bham> Netizen1993, Well, that's easier if your source machine is the server
[06:16] <Satzo> ruby_on_tails, google stapler
[06:16] <Netizen1993> yes, it's all here in house.
[06:16] <Netizen1993> :)
[06:16] <Satzo> its a python app that can do such things
[06:16] <anna-bham> But it's a true pain to install
[06:16] <hans> not really anna-bham, the difference is using a domain name vs 127.0.0.1, and a much slower connection speed
[06:17] <Netizen1993> I have a domain.
[06:17] <hans> I know, Netizen1993. give me a minute.
[06:17] <Netizen1993> if you check the url I just gave you, you can see the page running :)
[06:17] <Satzo> Netizen1993, yep
[06:18] <kiran_> how to keep the disks mounted always
[06:18] <pqrstuv> Hello, how would i stop sendmail being started during boot time?It takes time to start at boot time.
[06:18] <anna-bham> hans, I used to have an icecast server running, which I had to compile from source, but then I upgraded the server and it broke :(
[06:18] <qdb> hello
[06:18] <qdb> Ошибка 255 при запуске 'net usershare': net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied
[06:18] <qdb> You do not have permission to create a usershare. Ask your administrator to grant you permissions to create a share.
[06:18] <pqrstuv> Hello, how would i stop sendmail being started during boot time?It takes time to start at boot time.
[06:18] <qdb> i have set permission
[06:19] <Satzo> kiran_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=612295
[06:20] <anna-bham> For some background, I'm testing the XS for the XO project
[06:22] <panfist> in ubuntu is it appropriate to edit the /etc/inittab file? is there some front end to do it? what are the implications if i upgrade versions?
[06:22] <hans> Netizen1993: you need to install edcast now, and use it to talk to your server
[06:22] <ae86-drifter> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=mount+disk+ubuntu+omg
[06:23] <Flannel> ae86-drifter: Stop that.
[06:24] <assoguerozen_sx> guys im trying tu make image from pxs1 cds but softwares here (brasero/k3b) only saving ".toc" images
[06:24] <assoguerozen_sx> i want .iso/.bin
[06:24] <Netizen1993> edcast.. works in Wine I guess?
[06:24] <Satzo> assoguerozen_sx, you can make it save as .iso
[06:24] <hans> Netizen1993: it's supported in linux last time I checked
[06:25] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo that option just not coming
[06:25] <panfist> is there an ubuntu/debian counterpart to kickstart from redhat?
[06:25] <vingian> is there a way I can prevent ubuntu from shutting off my wireless connection when i close the lid on my laptop?
[06:25] <Satzo> assoguerozen_sx, hang on
[06:25] <Flannel> panfist: What does kickstart do?
[06:25] <Netizen1993> I only see .exe binary's
[06:25] <just_ilya> Hello
[06:25] <n8tuser> panfist it can do kickstart also, but it uses debian install
[06:26] <panfist> it kind of preconfigures the distro with what packages and startup scripts you want
[06:26] <Satzo> assoguerozen_sx, 1. insert CD 2. right click and copy
[06:26] <WiCoder> ilya you russian pig :p
[06:26] <Satzo> under properties, choose image type
[06:26] <Flannel> panfist: Yeah, you'll use debian-installer and a preseed file, I believe.
[06:26] <just_ilya> Wicked, thank you, mr. racist
[06:26] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo to do it with another cd (like normal data files cd), the option to make .iso comes
[06:26] <Satzo> but not ps1?
[06:26] <WiCoder> j/k I know two ilya's
[06:26] <WiCoder> both russian :p
[06:26] <Satzo> then goto the shell and use dd
[06:27] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo right click on the desktop icon? (it show 'audio disc' lol)
[06:27] <Flannel> WiCoder: Please don't be rude.  Even in a joking manner.
[06:27] <zaoul> Anyone know of an app I can pipe commands right into the clipboard?
[06:27] <dp_> Hi
[06:27] <hans> Netizen1993: http://svn.oddsock.org/public/trunk/
[06:27] <WiCoder> and is russian arace or nationality?
[06:27] <Satzo> assoguerozen_sx, dd if=/dev/sr0 of=~/name-of.iso
[06:27] <qdb> i have set sudo iconfig eth1 192 168 0 1 by mistake how to remove that address?
[06:27] <Satzo> where sr0(or whatever your optical drive mounts as)
[06:28] <just_ilya> Would anyone kindly tell how to make samba share stay as it was after reboot?
[06:28] <alteregoa> how can i install ubuntu without cdrom, i got a external harddrive with ubuntu and i want to install ubuntu to the internal drive
[06:28] <vox> WiCoder: this is for ubuntu-related support only, thanks
[06:28] <alteregoa> i tried casper and stuff, but after i have a error, it says cdrom drive not found installation aborted
[06:28] <Satzo> just_ilya, google persistent mount
[06:28] <zaoul> just_ilya: you'll need to play with /etc/fstab
[06:29] <zaoul> just_ilya: best I can tell you as im REALLY busy right now
[06:29] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo it fails
[06:29] <vingian> anyone know how i can prevent ubuntu from suspending my wi-fi adapter when i close the lid on my laptop?
[06:29] <dp_> Hi any can help in Jstun problem with ubuntu
[06:29] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo ill try to look for some specific thing about it
[06:29] <Flannel> zaoul: Try xclip
[06:29] <alteregoa> i d/l the iso and cp it to /ubuntu904
[06:29] <Satzo> what fails?  dd will dump anything
[06:29] <zaoul> haha.. I just found that in synergy .. thanks
[06:29] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo cuz it show 'audio disc' to all psx1 cds
[06:30] <zaoul> cooL
[06:30] <Satzo> ahh
[06:30] <devD> where is smb.conf in ubuntu
[06:30] <Satzo> well then man dd
[06:30] <meborc> vingian, i don't think you can suspend ans still have wifi working
[06:30] <Satzo> and that should getcher iso file :)
[06:30] <assoguerozen_sx> dd fails
[06:30] <just_ilya> Well i'm using fstab, but how apply it to samba?
[06:30] <dp_> I need help regarding JSTUN support in Ubuntu
[06:30] <assoguerozen_sx> k3b/brasero did .toc images
[06:30] <vingian> meborc: i am not suspending - thats the thing
[06:30] <Satzo> google .toc > .iso ?
[06:30] <assoguerozen_sx> not even show to make .iso
[06:30] <assoguerozen_sx> hum
[06:30] <Satzo> i dont own a PS1
[06:30] <Satzo> just PS3
[06:30] <assoguerozen_sx> lets take a look ^_^
[06:30] <meborc> vingian, you have to disable suspend on lid close... from power options
[06:30] <vingian> meborc: or so i haven't configured it to suspend when i close the lid
[06:31] <zaoul> I <3 uew quad core duo
[06:31] <assoguerozen_sx> i want to make images cuz cds too old, sooner it will be corrupted
[06:31] <meborc> vingian, that is wierd
[06:31] <zaoul> man you guys are distracting me
[06:31] <zaoul> ;-p
[06:32] <alteregoa> am i talking to the moon?
[06:32] <Satzo> assoguerozen_sx,   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=664656
[06:32] <vingian> meborc: under Power management, on the option: When laptop lid is closed: it says "Blank Screen"
[06:32] <vingian> meborc: i wonder whats the daemon/kernel mod that watches for the lid closed event
[06:33] <Satzo> i would think ACPI
[06:33] <meborc> vingian, go to launtchpad and see if there is a bug on this, it should be reported
[06:33] <vingian> Satzo: now why didn't i think of that??? lol!!!
[06:33] <joebodo> just_ilya, here's a sample from my fstab: //vm-wow/c /media/vm-wow   smbfs  auto,username=xxx,password=xxxxxxxx,uid=1000,umask=000,user   0 0
[06:33] <assoguerozen_sx> Satzo damn just too fast for me
[06:33] <just_ilya> ..i mean i need folder to staying shared on my side
[06:33] <assoguerozen_sx> thx alot
[06:33] <Satzo> assoguerozen_sx, psxrip does what you need
[06:34] <Newbie2> Hi.. need help in Sound in Ubuntu 8.10.. i have installed ubuntu yester.. by default the sound was  working perfectly(detected my creative sound card Audigy CA0106 OSS).. but when i play musiz today i m unable to play songs since i hear crackling sound... plz help
[06:34] <assoguerozen_sx> ok ok
[06:34] <assoguerozen_sx> 100% opk
[06:35] <alteregoa> hmm
[06:35] <joebodo> newbie2 try alsamixer from command prompt -
[06:35] <Newbie2> how to do that joebodo
[06:35] <Newbie2> ?
[06:36] <joebodo> open up gnome-terminal
[06:36] <Newbie2> k
[06:36] <joebodo> then type in "alsamixer"
[06:36] <LucidGuy> Xen  vs VMware .. any comments?
[06:37] <Satzo> LucidGuy, $
[06:37] <LucidGuy> Satzo,   besides that.
[06:37] <vox> LucidGuy: it's a personal thing, like gnome or kde
[06:37] <cosimo_> hello
[06:37] <LucidGuy> vox, I disagree with that..
[06:37] <Satzo> ive never tried Xen but check the forums and see how active/supportive they are
[06:37] <vox> LucidGuy: but.. i've used both, and xen beats vmware into small pieces
[06:38] <Satzo> vox, how is the community support?
[06:38] <LucidGuy> vox, Really? ...  from what I read VMware is still the best.
[06:38] <cosimo_> my screen blinks (turns buck for a second) everythime i try to play a dvd
[06:38] <Newbie2> joebodo... i tried alsamixer... it shows my card as PulseAudio.. but mine is Creative sound card
[06:38] <vox> Satzo: it's fine
[06:38] <ae86-drifter> cosimo_ what GFX drivers u using and which application
[06:39] <vox> LucidGuy: *shrug* im going on my personal experience, using both in public-facing production enviro
[06:39] <joebodo> newbie2 i believe that's ok
[06:39] <cosimo_> its happening with both VLC and gxine.
[06:39] <cosimo_> let me check the driver
[06:40] <ae86-drifter> what video card drivers u use
[06:40] <joebodo> newbie2 actually it shows my card correctly
[06:40] <Newbie2> what do u want me to do in alsamiser ??
[06:40] <LucidGuy> Im thinking mainly for linux guests ... something tells me I should stick with xen.
[06:41] <wizzo50> Satzo: How you setup with a new user when I have this setup to autimatially sign-in and when I log out, it just asks for a user name and password, but in the bottom left corner of task bar, there isn't anywhere to setup as a new user.
[06:42] <pqrstuv> Is anyone here?
[06:42] <Satzo> No.
[06:42] <pqrstuv> Satzo: How would i stop sendmail?
[06:42] <pqrstuv> I want to stop sendmail from boot time.
[06:42] <Satzo> no idea.  gime a min
[06:42] <Newbie2> eed help in Sound in Ubuntu 8.10.. i have installed ubuntu yester.. by default the sound was  working perfectly(detected my creative sound card Audigy CA0106 OSS).. but when i play musiz today i m unable to play songs since i hear crackling sound... plz help
[06:43] <pqrstuv> How would i stop sendmail? Can someone reply?
[06:43] <pqrstuv> ?
[06:43] <pqrstuv> ^
[06:43] <pqrstuv> ?
[06:43] <pqrstuv> ^
[06:43] <FloodBot1> pqrstuv: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <salax> pqrstuv, u can juz remove it
[06:43] <pqrstuv> salax: How ?
[06:43] <Satzo> pqrstuv, google disable sendmail
[06:44] <ae86-drifter> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=How+to+stop+sendmail
[06:44] <vox> pqrstuv: open a terminal, type   sudo apt-get remove sendmail
[06:44] <pqrstuv> No, i don't want to remove sendmail,
[06:44] <pqrstuv> /etc/init.d/sendmail stop works, but want to stop it at boot time.
[06:45] <vox> you want to keep it, you just dont want it to run
[06:45] <lstarnes> pqrstuv: sudo update-rc.d -f sendmail remove
[06:45] <pqrstuv> vox: Yes
[06:45] <vox> pqrstuv: what lstarnes said
[06:46] <salax> or u can install sudo apt-get install sysvconfig
[06:46] <salax> , check which service u want to enable at what runlevel
[06:46] <Satzo> salax: is there a gui for that app?
[06:46] <qdb> there is guest access option in folder sharing. it is not written in https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/networking-shares.html . does it work?
[06:46] <salax> Satzo, yes
[06:46] <eshannon> Anyone help me I just installed a 1.5 tb drive and Not sure how I can format it and use it?
[06:46] <Satzo> is it a front end to sysvconfig or standalone?
[06:46] <pqrstuv> lstarnes: Yes, that's what i'm looking for ,thank you.
[06:46] <qdb> no it is written
[06:46] <cosimo_> hmm im not sure, don't really know. How can I see whayt video card driver do i have? does ubuntu-linux use drivers?
[06:46] <biovore> eshannon: sata?
[06:47] <eshannon> Yes
[06:47] <Satzo> eshannon are you going to use this drive with any windows or apple computers?
[06:47] <spawnman> hey my wifi disappeared after an update im on 9.10 i tried reloading the drivers and that did nothing, lspci shows the wifi adapter but iwconfig doesnt show that its there
[06:47] <salax> Satzo, not sure
[06:47] <eshannon> no
[06:47] <Satzo> k
[06:47] <Satzo> ext3 would be your best bet I would think
[06:47] <biovore> ^ yup
[06:47] <Satzo> spawnman, ifconfig -a dont see it?
[06:47] <vox> spawnman: join #ubuntu+1
[06:47] <spawnman> no
[06:47] <just_ilya> come on guys won't you tell me such easy thing? how to make samba shares stay after reboot(not mounted shares on other comp, but on my local system)?
[06:47] <spawnman> vox what is that channel?
[06:48] <Satzo> just_ilya, i already answered
[06:48] <vox> spawnman: the 9.10 support channel
[06:48] <spawnman> vox ok thanks
[06:48] <eshannon> What program or camnad do I use to look to see which drive it is and format it
[06:49] <MTecknology> spawnman: by the end of the month 9.10 support will be moved into here
[06:49] <vox> eshannon: gparted will do what you're looking for
[06:49] <eshannon> ty
[06:50] <Newbie2> plz help me to make my sound card to work in ubuntu
[06:50] <Newbie2> !!
[06:50] <Newbie2> !!
[06:50] <FloodBot1> Newbie2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:50] <MTecknology> !audio | Newbie2
[06:52] <cosimo_> Newbie2 im having kinda of a newbie problem two, sorry
[06:52] <just_ilya> Satzo, no i don't thik this is what i asked about
[06:52] <eshannon> Should I create an MSDOS Table on the HD?
[06:52] <[-jon-]_> on top, for cpu usage, what is %wa for?
[06:53] <vox> [-jon-]_: I/O wait
[06:53] <Satzo> just_ilya, google persistent mount ubuntu
[06:53] <Docteh> eshannon: msdos table?
[06:53] <Satzo> eshannon, no reason
[06:53] <[-jon-]_> hmm, I guess this server is taking a crap on the harddrive
[06:53] <eshannon> Yes I am using Gpated with a new drive
[06:53] <Satzo> thats why i asked you if u were using win/apple
[06:53] <[-jon-]_> 70%wa
[06:53] <Docteh> eshannon: is it asking msdos vs efi?
[06:54] <eshannon> Slelect new partiton table type: msdos  is default
[06:54] <vox> [-jon-]_: that's.. excessive-ish
[06:54] <Docteh> ah
[06:54] <[-jon-]_> yeah the server is having issues, its really sluggish
[06:54] <[-jon-]_> without being root is there any way to see what processes are waiting for diskio?
[06:54] <just_ilya> Satzo, i know how to use persistent mount, bot it's not the point
[06:55] <Satzo> you mean you want to make samba shares available after a reboot?
[06:55] <vox> [-jon-]_: that im not sure about
[06:55] <[-jon-]_> it is having a rough night :(
[06:55] <[-jon-]_> 25 load avg
[06:56] <Satzo> just_ilya, sorry im not sure
[06:56] <Docteh> eshannon: its still a good safe default, you might have problems with anything older than windows vista (2006?)
[06:57] <eshannon> ty
[06:57] <just_ilya> Satzo, yes, i talk about share _my_ folders, not about mounting shares
[06:57] <[-jon-]_> vox: I killed one of my processes (rtorrent) that was doing a hash check of like 700mb. It should have been doing that a while ago, it stopped it, but its still at like 26%wa. I think the disk is having issues
[06:57] <Satzo> yeah i realize now just_ilya
[06:57] <Docteh> just_ilya: you can share stuff from the gui?
[06:58] <infid> can you make $HOME/public_html/ directories for apache in ubuntu?
[06:58] <tomvolek_> HI, I am running Ubuntu 9.x  I am trying to evaluate a comercial java software that has a .rpm distribution.  Is it possible to install it on Ubuntu to try it out ?
[06:58] <Docteh> or have you not found /etc/samba/smb.conf yet
[06:58] <Docteh> !alien | tomvolek_
[06:58] <[-jon-]_> 30%wa isnt normal either is it?
[06:58] <salax> tomvolek_, yes, try to use alien
[06:58] <Satzo> tomvolek_, does it have a .jar file inside the rpm?
[06:58] <chrissy> hello i have a question
[06:58] <vigo> tomvolek_: Yes
[06:58] <FireCrotch> infid: Yes, you'll want to use the userdir module for apache
[06:58] <tomvolek_> ok thanks guys ...
[06:59] <qdb> hello. now i have connected but shared folder is in my home folder and my home folder is denied for "others". cannot samba access it? i cannot access that folder from windows
[06:59] <tomvolek_> I am not sure Satzo. I am downloading it now
[06:59] <chrissy> my top and bottom toolbars are gone how do i put them back on
[06:59] <vox> [-jon-]_: it depends on the chipset/drives/enviro/etc.. some of my boxes will hit 30%wait under high disk load
[06:59] <[-jon-]_> I dont have root, but I dont believe it should be under high disk load right now
[07:00] <[-jon-]_> a 700mb hash check shouoldnt have caused such a problem
[07:00] <trey__> i need help
[07:00] <FireCrotch> !ask | trey__
[07:00] <vigo> tomvolek_: Here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RPM/AlienHowto
[07:00] <trey__> i cant see mmcblk0 in gparted
[07:00] <just_ilya> Docteh, yes, thats that the Billiard soy just now: ok i searched and some people have the same problem as you and they said it appears not to be shared, but it can still be accessed from another machine
[07:00] <chrissy> can anybody help me with the toolbars
[07:01] <Docteh> hrm 25 processes waiting? is it going up?
[07:01] <MyLoveIsAlive> I JUST FUCKED A SHEEP
[07:01] <MyLoveIsAlive> NEXT I'M GOING TO FUCK A COW
[07:01] <FloodBot1> MyLoveIsAlive: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:01] <infid> tanks FireCrotch
[07:01] <CitizenLane> that could get you in trouble in some jurisdictions.
[07:02]  * Satzo hides his animals....
[07:02] <MyLoveIsAlive> anyone here have any experience in fucking a cow
[07:02] <Manana> but not in all jurisdictions CitizenLane
[07:02] <MyLoveIsAlive> i just fucked a sheep but looking for advice on fucking a cow
[07:02] <MTecknology> !ops
[07:02] <trey__> i do i do
[07:02] <CitizenLane> Manana, true.  very true.
[07:02] <MyLoveIsAlive> !ops
[07:02] <vigo> chrissy: Gnome or? and I think you are talking about panels?
[07:02] <Rhapsody> I'm an OSSv4 user who is too tired to continue this fight. How do I compile and install ALSA 1.0.21a?
[07:02] <qdb> i have set guest access but in windows asks password
[07:03] <MyLoveIsAlive> I JUST FUCKED A SHEEP
[07:03] <FireCrotch> infid: You're welcome! :)
[07:03] <Docteh> lolbot
[07:03] <trey__> all you have to do is find your mother then fuck
[07:03] <qdb> no...
[07:03] <Flannel> trey__: Please don't.
[07:03] <joebodo> !language | trey__
[07:03] <trey__> now stop flooding
[07:03] <qdb> yes
[07:03] <qdb> guest access is set
[07:03] <cosimo_> sorry to insist. My screen is blinking (goes black for a second, turning back to normal) when viewing dvds on VLC and Gxine, and forgot to mention, it hapens with more frequency  with fullscreen.
[07:03] <Manana> family friendly... this is the internet
[07:03] <qdb> but asks password and name
[07:04] <cosimo_> I dont remember the users name, she/he was helping me  adn asked about the video card driver i was using
[07:04] <Satzo> cosimo_, does this happen in another userspace?
[07:04] <Manana> if you've made it to IRC... pretty sure you've parted ways with family friendly on a few occasions
[07:04] <trey__> i need help with  gparted. i cant see mmcblk0
[07:04] <Flannel> Manana: Please help to keep this channel ontopic, thanks.
[07:04] <trey__> or im gonna go sell some crank
[07:05] <trey__> now help
[07:05] <MTecknology> !coc | trey__: Manana
[07:05] <[-jon-]_> vox: if ntohing intensive was running on a server, what would a typical %wa be?
[07:05] <trey__> is ubottu a bot
[07:05] <SisyphusFragment> Hey I have a tech question: I've been recording the lectures in my class and I want to host them on the net for free and be able to link to them so that fellow students can download them easypeasy. What service do you suggest?
[07:05] <prince_jammys> trey__: yes
[07:06] <trey__> cool
[07:06] <Docteh> [-jon-]_: if the box is doing nothing it should be 0%
[07:06] <Manana> SisyphusFragment: youtube or google video
[07:06] <[-jon-]_> what about an average mysql daemon, etc
[07:06] <Manana> free bandwidth
[07:06] <[-jon-]_> would 10%wa be...abnormal?
[07:06] <Docteh> the waiting comes from waiting around for IO events
[07:06] <trey__> now im gonna go sell some crank
[07:06] <jason__> SisyphusFragment, I definitely recommend consulting the professor at least, and the school's legal department as well, if you want to do this.
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> SisyphusFragment: First, you should be aware that you need to get permission from your instructor to do so or you're breaking the law in most countries.
[07:06] <Satzo> SisyphusFragment, or vimeo
[07:06] <MTecknology> trey__: stop
[07:07] <cosimo_> Satzo: im very sorry, it actually doesn't happen with mplayer.  Thank any how, I will try to see what's happening with the other players but right now my girlfriend is waiting.
[07:07] <Akos_beginner> IF I can mount a Windows partition than why cannot start it? I always became an error message: Starting... HARD DISK ERROR. Could someone have any idea?
[07:07] <SisyphusFragment> Ok, well thanks guys
[07:07] <MTecknology> Akos_beginner: when you boot windows?
[07:07] <trey__> Please don't ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily me
[07:08] <Akos_beginner> I have dual boot with ubuntu
[07:08] <MTecknology> Akos_beginner: Is this error when you boot windows and not Ubuntu??
[07:08] <Akos_beginner> Yes, when I boot wondows
[07:08] <trey__> i use to have dual boot
[07:08] <joebodo> Akos_beginner, did your windows session shut down correctly ?
[07:08] <Akos_beginner> yes.
[07:08] <MTecknology> Akos_beginner: This issue is most likely with Windows - which version?
[07:09] <Akos_beginner> xp
[07:09] <prince_jammys> looks like you're entering ##windows domain
[07:09] <SisyphusFragment> If I get permission, it's just sound, so what site can I upload just a file for download to? I've heard about something like Mozy. Any suggestions?
[07:09] <Akos_beginner> but if I mount it, there is a boot.ini, everything
[07:09] <trey__> xp is cool vista and 7 sucks
[07:09] <MTecknology> Akos_beginner: You could try to let XP repair the Windows installation
[07:09] <Docteh> Akos_beginner: check which partition is marked bootable unless you're going from grub to the partition
[07:09] <trey__> need help
[07:10] <MTecknology> !offtopic | trey__
[07:10] <Akos_beginner> I read many thing about grub  and booting and mbr.
[07:10] <chrissy> vigo i am talking about the bars at top that show wireless and web browser and so on
[07:10] <trey__> i cant see mmcblk0 in gparted
[07:10] <chrissy> also time
[07:10] <rashed2020> Get 9.10 out there faster! I just got a new laptop and I'm counting every second.
[07:10] <MTecknology> trey__: use fdisk
[07:10] <Docteh> rashed2020: why dont you just install the beta?
[07:11] <joebodo> rashed2020, imo 9.10 is pretty stable right now
[07:11] <MTecknology> Docteh: don't suggest that
[07:11] <rashed2020> How does upgrading from Beta to final work?
[07:11] <Manana> haha
[07:11] <Docteh> MTecknology: then ban me from here :)
[07:11] <MTecknology> rashed2020: do an update
[07:11] <Flannel> rashed2020: Just like regular updates.  But #ubuntu+1 is the place for Karmic questions
[07:11] <rashed2020> I usually stick to LTSs.
[07:11] <Akos_beginner> There is a tool boot_info_script032.sh, here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/292112/
[07:11] <Docteh> *!*@*.shadowmage.org
[07:11] <MTecknology> rashed2020: next lts is 10.04 IIRC
[07:11] <joebodo> rashed2020, update-manager -d
[07:12] <joebodo> !lts
[07:12] <trey__> gparted is a gui for fdisk. i no how to solve to problem but i dont no how to code
[07:12] <Rishab> gud morning linux ..
[07:12] <Satzo> gday
[07:12] <rashed2020> I thought 9.10 was an LTS. Damn it. I'm upgrading anyway, it looks too nice to ignore.
[07:13] <MTecknology> rashed2020: update-manager -d will upgrade you to karmic; otherwise if you start using the beta - then a standard update will have you on it
[07:13] <MTecknology> rashed2020: watch the language
[07:13] <trey__> your not going to help
[07:13] <rashed2020> Really? The D word is bad?
[07:13] <MTecknology> trey__: You ignored my advice
[07:13] <MTecknology> rashed2020: ya
[07:13] <rashed2020> MTecknology: And regular updates from Beta take me to final? Did I understand that correctly?
[07:14] <Akos_beginner> I have found quite a similar issue:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1070007&page=2
[07:14] <Flannel> rashed2020: correct.  But #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> rashed2020: *IF* nothing breaks in between.  Big if.
[07:14] <Docteh> yay we can use the d word again
[07:14] <Akos_beginner> Wherethis command solved the problem: sudo dd if=XP_nine.txt of=/dev/sda1 bs=1 seek=80 skip=80
[07:14] <prince_jammys> careful with that.
[07:14] <Docteh> woah woah woah
[07:14] <Flannel> Docteh: Please stay ontopic.
[07:15] <trey__> i don feel like having to demount then fdisk bla bla something then something that i have to go detiled in
[07:15] <rashed2020> Who's getting the grub error?
[07:15] <Docteh> Akos_beginner: don't dick around with dd onto partitions
[07:15] <Docteh> Flannel: dont say woah woah woah?
[07:16] <rashed2020> Docteh: Watch the language.
[07:16] <Akos_beginner> okay, but there is even less idea...
[07:16] <trey__> so let me tell you what conflict it is having
[07:16] <Docteh> rashed2020: suggest a better word for that sentance then
[07:16] <Manana> haha
[07:16] <locky> Backing up gf's lappy now to put 9.10 beta on ;)
[07:16] <trey__> do you have a sd slot on your computer
[07:17] <rashed2020> Docteh: "Oh my"
[07:17] <joebodo> locky ot - but i think the biggest change in 9.10 is ext4 - that requires a reinstall to get the full benefits
[07:18] <Akos_beginner> What is strange, that when I choose the windows to boot, I got the 'hard disk error' messages very very fast.
[07:18] <Docteh> rashed2020: Don't Oh my with dd and specific partitions
[07:19] <Docteh> Akos_beginner: its because the error is  coming from bios or MBR
[07:19] <locky> Has xp ATM
[07:19] <trey__> MTecknology i want to use gparted
[07:19] <ZykoticK9> locky, FYI 9.10 beta is sucking down on average 50-100MB of updates a day right now.  You might want to wait until release...
[07:19] <locky> I used ext4 with 9.04 at home and was very happy with it
[07:19] <chrissy> hey how do i do a defrag
[07:19] <rashed2020> trey__: He left.
[07:19] <trey__> for whut im trying to do
[07:19] <Docteh> !defrag
[07:19] <Satzo> chrissy, you dont
[07:20] <Akos_beginner> Yes, that means the windows has no problem, but the MBR or BIOS regarding the windows boot has.
[07:20] <trey__> can you help me
[07:20] <just_ilya> i cheked out and my issue was really a bug, it's already reported
[07:20] <rashed2020> trey__: What are you trying to do?
[07:20] <maestrojed> I would like to change a user's home directory. When I look at that users current home directory it is filled with files (I guess system files, I did not put them there). If I change the user's home directory do those files need to be there? Will they be recreated in the new folder?
[07:21] <chrissy> ok when i turn off my laptop it says system halted and i have to manually shutt it off
[07:21] <chrissy> what causes this
[07:21] <Satzo> ACPI perhaps
[07:21] <trey__> im trying to get gparted to reganise my sd slot
[07:21] <Docteh> maestrojed: default files are from /etc/skel, don't really need them but they help
[07:21] <chrissy> how do i fix that
[07:21] <Satzo> chrissy, is acpi enabled in bios?
[07:21] <trey__> do you have a sd slot
[07:22] <chrissy> not sure
[07:22] <Satzo> check it out
[07:22] <maestrojed> Docteh: help? as in performance or as in they are nice to have. Because I will let /home/username exist so they will be available. I just will change the "active" user's directory
[07:22] <chrissy> do i enable it if it is not
[07:22] <rashed2020> trey__: I do. It worked right out of the box so I never had to mess around with it. And as far as I can tell gparted can't help your computer recognize an SD slot.
[07:22] <Satzo> chrissy, yes.. google acpi as well.. for your own good :)
[07:23] <Satzo> just so u know what it is
[07:23] <trey__> that one
[07:23] <chrissy> ok i will try now thanks so much
[07:23] <Satzo> np
[07:24] <purplefool> evidentially i installed ubuntu through windows (mental fart with consequences...).  i have backed up everything important and would like to 're-install' but realized...i don't know how.  what would be the best way to go about this?
[07:24] <Docteh> maestrojed: just nice to have
[07:24] <shadeslayer> hey,can i upgrade from 8.10 to 9.10 directly?
[07:24] <lstarnes> shadeslayer: no, you'll have to go to 9.04 in between
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> purplefool: boot to windows and use add/remove programs to uninstal ubuntu like any other app
[07:25] <shadeslayer> bah...
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> shadeslayer: you have to go via jaunty
[07:25] <purplefool> ActionParsnip, well now...that sounds easy enough.  thx
[07:25] <izmaelis> hello, why can't i see free disk space after moving huge file to another partition?
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> purplefool: thats the idea, you can then reinstall and have a fresh install
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[07:26] <izmaelis> i looks like file is still there
[07:26] <izmaelis> it*
[07:26] <locky> Filled it up maybe? :p
[07:26] <maestrojed> Doctech: Thanks!
[07:27] <Docteh> izmaelis: for laughs check the trash or do like df -h /source then df -h /target and make sure its different partition
[07:27] <shadeslayer> and if i upgrade to 9.04 via a internet connection,how big is the download?
[07:28] <chiques> So what's the word on 9.10, any cool things?
[07:28] <Docteh> shadeslayer: depends on how much you installed, its not too too long if you have a fast connection
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | chiques
[07:28] <daya> is there is any DVD  for LTSP ubuntu 9.04 ,
[07:28] <shadeslayer> Docteh: its a base install,just installed it on a  friends PC last night,he has a 256 kbps connection
[07:29] <izmaelis> oh, i found what was wwong. I downloaded huge file with rtorrent, moved that file from the partition i downed it to and forgot to delete torrent from rtorrent
[07:29] <Docteh> shadeslayer: base as in "base" or as in similar to whats on the livecd?
[07:30] <shadeslayer> Docteh: live cd
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> izmaelis: does rtorrent not supprt moving the storage of the data?
[07:30] <evilaim> hmm
[07:30] <evilaim> ok, weird question
[07:30] <kosmic> What isthe deal here
[07:30] <kosmic> no sound!
[07:31] <evilaim> say I get a PS3, does it rely on that ghetto ms to watch videos off my pc?
[07:31] <kosmic> hoold on
[07:31] <Satzo> evilaim, it doesnt need to
[07:31] <evilaim> what do you mean?
[07:31] <Docteh> shadeslayer: are you upgrading from the cli? if you do it'll give you a super long list of what its downloading and how big the download is
[07:31] <Satzo> well... i ended up using XP as a transcoder
[07:31] <Satzo> but you can use ubuntu to transcode too
[07:31] <evilaim> eeeeeeew
[07:31] <Satzo> i know..
[07:32] <nic1> hey  i wanted to remove a package
[07:32] <nic1> it tells unable to lock
[07:32] <Docteh> the GUI *may* do that as well, but it tells you before it starts
[07:32] <Satzo> but the showstopper for me was 1080p(at build time) wouldnt run smooth with ubuntu
[07:32] <nic1> though i am not running anything else
[07:32] <shadeslayer> Docteh: hmmm....im not too sure that his connection will last that long,im giving him a alternate cd torrent which can be used as a upgrade cd
[07:32] <nic1> is there any command to check how actually pkg manager got locked?
[07:32] <Satzo> evilaim, http://ps3mediaserver.blogspot.com/
[07:32] <Satzo> thats what i used
[07:33] <kosmic> WHY does sound not fucking work
[07:33] <Flannel> kosmic: Please mind your language
[07:33] <kosmic> that you know
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | kosmic
[07:33] <kosmic> but support is not available
[07:33] <Docteh> shadeslayer: it downloads everything and _then_ installs btw
[07:33] <evilaim> Ok, this is prolly dumb, but if I install ubuntu on a PS3, will it still play my games nativly?
[07:33] <shadeslayer> Docteh: ok
[07:33] <Satzo> evilaim, yes
[07:33] <Satzo> but.....
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> evilaim: no
[07:33] <Satzo> ps3 and linux is a letdown
[07:34] <Satzo> ActionParsnip, yes it does
[07:34] <Satzo> they can coexist
[07:34] <Docteh> evilaim: you restart the ps3 to play games
[07:34] <evilaim> ...
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Satzo: so you can play PS3 games through ubuntu on a PS3?
[07:34] <evilaim> Oh, so it's a dual boot?
[07:34] <Satzo> ActionParsnip, : NO
[07:34] <Satzo> sry for caps
[07:34] <Satzo> it is a dual boot scheme
[07:34] <Satzo> linux on PS3 works thru sony's hypervisor
[07:34] <evilaim> What would be the point of having ubuntu on the console then?
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> Satzo: i thought that, the way it was worded came across as 'Can I play PS3 games in Ubuntu"
[07:34] <Satzo> hang on evilaim i gota link for you about this
[07:34] <Billiard> rip blu ray discs
[07:35] <nic1> is there any command to check how actually pkg manager got locked?
[07:35] <Docteh> oooo really?
[07:35] <Satzo> ActionParsnip, heh
[07:35] <shadeslayer> Docteh: yep
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> evilaim: saves cash, you will have a dual boot with Ubuntu and the PS3 OS
[07:35] <evilaim> ok
[07:35] <evilaim> thanks
[07:35] <evilaim> any linx on this would be great
[07:35] <evilaim> I'll read the heck outta them
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> evilaim: PS3 has not that much RAM so stay light
[07:35] <livetoday> running (sudo) apt-get <anything> gives me a segfault. can this be fixed? is it a known issue?
[07:36] <evilaim> no?
[07:36] <evilaim> let me check specs
[07:36] <Docteh> sweet, i have a friend with a ps3, if i can get him to install linux i can now buy blurays
[07:36] <evilaim> *cough* can ps3 play backup blurays?
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> evilaim: 256Mb
[07:36] <Satzo> evilaim, arstechnica.com forums "Linux Kung Fu"
[07:36] <Satzo> it was in the top page yesterday
[07:37] <rashed2020> There's a tutorial somewhere to getting your PS3 controller working with Ubuntu on PS3. Emulator heaven.
[07:37] <Satzo> rashed2020, yep
[07:37] <U-b-u-n-t-u> whenever I run opera or firefox my ram cache is like at 79-90% why is that?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> evilaim: so you wont be running compiz if you want any kind of system responsiveness, grab XUbuntu or install LXDE / Fluxbox as your DE
[07:37] <Satzo> the con is the video device on PS3 isnt accessed directly by linux
[07:37] <evilaim> This has interested me for a while, but never really looked into
[07:37] <Satzo> ActionParsnip, i think yellowdog 6 is the latest for PS3(PPC really)
[07:38] <Docteh> evilaim: I'm not sure but I think the usual method for consoles applies, but not here
[07:38] <Satzo> evilaim, the reasons i mentioned discouraged me from bothering
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Satzo: true
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: reduce plugins can help
[07:38] <evilaim> hmm
[07:38] <Satzo> time to go home.. im at work later than i need to haha
[07:38] <Satzo> cyaz folks
[07:38] <rashed2020> If you want a good laugh: Look up running Vista in VirtualBox in Ubuntu on a PS3.
[07:38] <rashed2020> I think it took like 15 minutes to boot up.
[07:39] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, I have none installed
[07:39] <Billiard> rashed2020: Vista on 256 mb of ram, lol
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: so no skins / ad-blocker etc
[07:39] <evilaim> Ok, so, if I have ubuntu on a PS3, I can play what ever movie media ubuntu will allow in 1080p?
[07:39] <shadeslayer> rashed2020: haha
[07:39] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, my cache and ram is at 23% now but if I open a browsers BOOM
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> evilaim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3
[07:40] <evilaim> thanks
[07:40] <evilaim> I've been googling like heck.  I have 10 windows open, reading one by one
[07:40] <eshannon> Got my New HD installed and Formated. I am unable to create a folder or add files. What do I hace to do to give myself permisions
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: try a lighter browser like swiftfox or kazehakase
[07:40] <Docteh> U-b-u-n-t-u: does it support swap?
[07:41] <U-b-u-n-t-u> Docteh, not sure?
[07:41] <inspiron630> can you open .docx in open office now
[07:41] <U-b-u-n-t-u> I am using a cel d dual core 2.0 gzh pc 4200 ram 64 bit 9.04
[07:41] <rashed2020> inspiron630: Yes.
[07:41] <lstarnes> inspiron630: I think some newer versions of openoffice have at least partial support for .docx
[07:42] <Docteh> U-b-u-n-t-u: awhile back i had an idea of using ram in a remote computer as swap
[07:42] <evilaim> Yep, I'm discouraged...
[07:42] <evilaim> haha
[07:43] <souler> Hey, why do I have so very few effects in Linux? Even though I enabled extra features.... the flame and some other effects aren't there. Are they removed in the current 9.04 linux version from the past ones?????????????????
[07:43] <evilaim> souler
[07:43] <puff> have an ubuntu box with mythtv.  I added a second SATA drive and now X works at first, but dies.
[07:43] <joebodo_> souler, install ccsm
[07:43] <puff> I can't find anything in /var/log/Xorg.log
[07:43] <souler> joebodo, how do I do it?
[07:43] <souler> sudo apt-get install ccsm?
[07:43] <evilaim> did you happen to do: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> souler: press alt+f2   type ccsm    press enter
[07:44] <souler> evilaim yes
[07:44] <evilaim> then you enable them in there
[07:44] <Docteh> puff: even if the box sits?
[07:44] <souler> Actionparsnip, nothing happpened
[07:44] <puff> Docteh: "sits"?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> souler: run it from terminal, see if its installed
[07:44] <evilaim> system -> preferences -> compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:44] <Docteh> puff: does nothing
[07:44] <puff> Yeah.
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> souler: it will give you the command to run to install it if its missing
[07:45] <souler> says already running
[07:45] <puff> ctrl-alt-shift-f1 gets me to a console, there' sno x process, if I try to start an X app it fails.
[07:45] <U-b-u-n-t-u> not sure if that helps?
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> souler: then run: killall ccsm
[07:45] <souler> I just want to have some extra effects, I can chose the fold, glide and magic lamp ones, but no flame or anything....
[07:45] <Docteh> puff: try "startx" from console
[07:46] <lstarnes> puff: if X is actually running, try export DISPLAY=:0.0
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> souler: you need to kill off the process so you can rerun it
[07:46] <souler> ActionParshin, did it
[07:46] <Docteh> puff: I'd try to isolate if its the new drive or powering the new drive thats the problem
[07:46] <souler> ActionParsnip *
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> souler: cool
[07:47] <Docteh> puff: also look at the bottom of dmesg as soon as X dies
[07:47] <Bluey> anyone have any experience with lightscribe on ubuntu?
[07:47] <Docteh> people actually use that?
[07:48] <souler> But it's not that.... I CAN open the effects manager, just that very few of effects available for selection...
[07:48] <souler> Is there a way to install some extra ones?
[07:48] <puff> What should the x process be named?
[07:48] <Docteh> X Xorg
[07:48] <Docteh> something like that
[07:48] <Docteh> i'll check my other computer
[07:49] <Docteh> ooo no X on there either, I'm in a room without a gui right now :-/
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> souler: sudo apt-get --reinstall install compiz-plugins  compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-fusion-plugins-main
[07:49] <rafiq>  
[07:49] <noodleson> trying to play Merlin's revenge 3. firefox says i'm missing the plugin, but can't find one. Is it shockwave? and can linux not install shockwave?
[07:49] <revenge> is there a way to access AOL/AIM chats in a program without using a web browser?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> revenge: pidgin
[07:49] <KB1JWQ> revenge: bitlbee
[07:50] <revenge> ActionParsnip, which option lets u access aol chatrooms?
[07:50] <maco> revenge: set up an AIM account in pidgin then open a "New Chat"
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> revenge: not sure, i dont use aol. You may find you can list the rooms on the main window
[07:51] <souler> meh gotta go
[07:51] <souler> teacher wants me to work with photoshop =.=**
[07:51] <puff> lstarnes, Docteh, okay, so it looks like I was too hasty, X appears to still be running, but even setting the DISPLAY env variable isn't making it work.
[07:51] <dbugger> Hey gyus
[07:52] <gladio70> #ubuntu-it
[07:52] <noodleson> does merlin's revenge run with shockwave? and can shockwave be run in linux?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> noodleson: no shockwave is windows only
[07:52] <dbugger> Is there a way that empathy opens my chat window when I receive a message? Im missing MANY conversations, due to not proper notification!
 hey can you giv me any information about latest linux kernel version in ubuntu
[07:53] <noodleson> damn, so there is no workaround or something to play a shockwave game in linux?
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> rafiq: theres a 2.6.32 but you dont need it if the current kernel you have is fine, newer isnt always better
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> noodleson: virtualbox but you'll need a windows license
[07:54] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, should firefox being giving me those spikes with my system??? I mean I am running a dual core
[07:54] <ZykoticK9> noodleson, you could research if shockwave works with ies4linux.
[07:54] <U-b-u-n-t-u> posted my system info up top
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: how much ram do yu have?
[07:54] <U-b-u-n-t-u> 2 gigs
[07:54] <eshannon> How do I take ownership of my new Hard Drive I install. I can not create folders or put files on it
[07:55] <U-b-u-n-t-u> see
[07:55] <rafiq> not for upgradation i need the documentation, particularly about schedulers can help me in any way
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: should be fine, have you tried renaming ~/.mozilla to test if its a bad profile?
[07:55] <U-b-u-n-t-u> <<< noob
[07:55] <noodleson> Zykotick9: yeah that may work, it's not that big of a deal. don't really care that much about shockwave online games
[07:55] <ZykoticK9> eshannon, "sudo chmod ugo+rwx /newdrivemountpoint"
[07:55] <revenge> KB1JWQ what is bittlebee
[07:55] <eshannon> ty
[07:56] <paipimenta_> hey folks, I want to install OS from iso without burning... anyone familiar with PXE or alternative?
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: close all firefoxes and run: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old     then rerun the browser
not for upgradation i need the documentation, particularly about schedulers can help me in any way
[07:56] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, ok
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> rafiq: i dont delve that deep with kernels
[07:58] <syrius> how do you watch or decrypt drm videos in ubuntu?
[07:58] <kosmic> okay
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: is it better?
[07:59] <revenge> KB1JWQ, i installed bittlebee from synaptic but i cannot find it...where is it located?
[07:59] <kosmic> solved the sound problems they were caused by my unticking gdm fromt he service list. someone should make a note of this in the sound faq.
[07:59] <noodleson> found a petition to get shockwave on linux: http://tinyurl.com/4hbq43
[08:00] <KB1JWQ> revenge: Helps to spell it properly.
[08:00] <kosmic> "Disabling GDM kills sound!"
[08:00] <noodleson> there are about 36,000 signatures, but still no shockwave
[08:00] <KB1JWQ> noodleson: So what have you learned about the power of internet petitions?
[08:00] <KB1JWQ> !ot | noodleson
[08:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip,   mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla-old........... really seem to help?
[08:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> what does that mean?
[08:00] <U-b-u-n-t-u> hehe
[08:00] <revenge> KB1JWQ, ok bitlebee
[08:01] <kosmic> oh wow what an annoying nickname
[08:01] <al__> whats the comand to either list system spcs or amount of ram?
[08:01] <vox> revenge: bitlbee
[08:01] <mneptok> KB1JWQ should stop being so logical: +1
[08:01] <mneptok> anyone else?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: its the folder that stores the settings and plugins for firefox, if it gets corrupted for some reason, the already bloated browser gos haywire
[08:01] <kosmic> noodleson, so what would happen if they went along with our petition
[08:01] <rafiq> ActionParsnip: ok is this version 2.6.32 has been implemented in any version of ubuntu...or which is the last kernel version impleented for ubuntu?
[08:01] <noodleson> petitions don't work.
[08:01] <ZykoticK9> al__, ram specs with "$ free"
[08:01] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, so should I uninstall opera too? and reinstall it?
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: renaming it then rerunning it gives you a stock profile (but we only renamed so we can roll back)
[08:01] <revenge> KB1JWQ, ok i can spell it
[08:01] <noodleson> kosmic: we could play shockwave games on linux
[08:01] <mneptok> revenge: it's a CLI app
[08:02] <syrius> how do you watch drm  videos in ubuntu
[08:02] <syrius> ??
[08:02] <mneptok> revenge: do you use the terminal a lot?
[08:02] <kosmic> noodleson, oh i see.
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> rafiq: i only know the version exists. Ive seen debs around but i didnt install them
[08:02] <KB1JWQ> rafiq: For goodness's sake, dude!  2.6.32 isn't even stable yet!
[08:02] <al__> ZykoticK9: : nice. ta
[08:02] <revenge> mneptok, im sort of new but i like terminal
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> U-b-u-n-t-u: you can rename ~/.opera too to test that
[08:02] <Laque> My nvidia-settings is lacking 1600x1200, how can i specify it?
[08:02] <asia> al__,  you can use commands starting with ls like lsmod, lspci to get system specs ...
[08:02] <free_loader> does Ubuntu server reboot automatically after a server upgrade?
[08:03] <mneptok> revenge: bitlbee, IIRC, requires irssi. but i may well be wrong. i don't use bitlbee.
[08:03] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, is there anything else I should do now or?
[08:03] <ZykoticK9> syrius, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats for possible answer
[08:03] <navap> Bitlbee just requires an irc client.
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Laque: gksudo nvidia-settings           write the X config file, then edit the file manually to set the resolution you want
[08:03] <al__> asia: ok, will try them
[08:03] <U-b-u-n-t-u> ActionParsnip, I mean to firefox
[08:03] <free_loader> HELP :  does Ubuntu server reboot automatically after a kernel update?
[08:03] <Laque> ActionParsnip: I'll try that
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Laque: its old school but works
[08:04] <mneptok> free_loader: NO, IT DOES NOT
[08:04] <al__> i only found out the other day you can start a command then hit tab tab for list of matching options
[08:04] <vox> free_loader: no
[08:04] <al__> thats the best newbie tip i have ever had
[08:04] <HektoR> hi all. guys please suggest any good soft to scan from printer to pdf. i tryied xsane but it can't attach 2 or more paper in to one pdf
[08:04] <abe3k> hi guys , I want to install ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop using usb, but the laptop has no option to boot from the flash memory, is there anything I can do to this problem, the laptop has windows xp on it now
[08:04] <asia> free_loader,  I don't think servers boot automatically after update
[08:04] <revenge> mneptok, i i can access it on irc, i am looking on how to do it
[08:04] <free_loader> mneptok : is there a way to turn off automatic kernel updates?
[08:04] <paipimenta_> al__: it also works with IRC nicks!
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> al__: great isnt it, thinng is you'll start doing it in emails and text files too, very amusing
[08:05] <mneptok> free_loader: pin the kernel packages
[08:05] <asia> free_loader, but you may try using ksplice to avoid rebooting after every kernel update
[08:05] <free_loader> thanks asia , vox but is there a way to turn off automatic server updates?
[08:05] <n8tuser> abe3k-> does the laptop have a cdrom?
[08:05] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: i do it with my wife. "today we need to TAB .... TAB ...." *blank stare*
[08:05] <abe3k> n8tuser : yes, but a bad one
[08:05] <nperry> Just wondering, would it be ok for example if i have one hdd mounted at / and another mounted at /home?
[08:05] <paipimenta_> well if no one knows about PXE, any way I can copy an .iso to a partition so I can boot into the installation?
[08:06] <paipimenta_> any install from iso hacks at all?
[08:06] <free_loader> asia ksplice? I'll look it up
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: hahaha, awesome
[08:06] <maco> mneptok: i do that too :)
[08:06] <vox> ksplice troubles me.
[08:06] <al__> ActionParsnip: hehhee, yeah I have already started doing it, wondering why the computer cant predict the word I am thingking of
[08:06] <mo0nykit> How do I set madwifi to auto-scan? Like in Windows' "Refresh network list?"
[08:06] <abe3k> n8tuser : I used my main desktop to create the usb from ubuntu
[08:06] <ZykoticK9> nperry, that's very common to do - it's a Good idea!
[08:06] <free_loader> mneptok : and how do I pin kernel packages?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> al__: xp does it in cmd.exe too :)
[08:06] <n8tuser> abe3k-> i have not thought about it too much...
[08:07] <asia> free_loader,     I read this article once.. it might help..http://linuxers.org/article/make-your-system-rebootless-using-ksplice
[08:07] <nperry> ZykoticK9: I know its best prctice to do with different partions not to sure if able to do different hdds
[08:07] <Laque> ActionParsnip: Also, the settings state that my NVidia 8400 card has 512MB of memory and that my onboard NVidia 8300 is using 512MB (taking some of my ram). Is it benefiting me that the onboard has VRAM? If not, how to i stop it from taking my RAM?
[08:07] <mneptok> free_loader: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[08:07] <ZykoticK9> nperry, even better with 2 HDs!
[08:07] <rashed2020> How is UbuntuOne closed source? Don't the devs refuse to include flash cuz it's not open sourced? Is it just me or am I sensing hypocrisy here?
[08:07] <abe3k> n8tuser : I tried using wubi but after booting process starts it gives my a busy box message and stops the boot
[08:07] <asia> vox, ya there are some problems with ksplice..
[08:08] <maco> rashed2020: the client, which is included, is open soruce
[08:08] <nperry> Just hope the /home hd doesn't die first :P
[08:08] <paipimenta_> nperry: LVM might be beneficial to you depending on what you're doing
[08:08] <al__> ActionParsnip:  yes but not quite with the same finese
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> Laque: if you only want 1 dispay, disable the onboard.
[08:08] <maco> rashed2020: the server is not. this is similar to how you may use an open soruce twitter client like Gwibber but the Twitter server is still closed
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> al__: true as tab in ubuntu also completes the options
[08:09] <rafiq> kb1jwq: thanx for the info buddy...can i know the latest and stable kernel..
[08:09] <rashed2020> maco: Touche.
[08:09] <nperry> paipimenta_: I'm using at my desktop - I've been testing karmic out last couple of months but what i want to do with Lucid is be able to fresh install couple of weeks
[08:09] <KB1JWQ> rafiq: kernel.org
[08:09] <nperry> paipimenta_: So wo with /home i would have to make backups all the time. And it saves all my configs
[08:09] <Laque> ActionParsnip: well my motherboard supports hybrid SLI so they could very well be working together. I just want to know if they are in ubuntu, or if disabling the onboard would be better.
[08:09] <rafiq> kb1jwq:thank you
[08:10] <free_loader> mneptok asia thanks for that
[08:10] <KB1JWQ> rafiq: Ayup.
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> Laque: well if you need the ram and the cad uses the system ram, disable it
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> s/cad/card
[08:10] <free_loader> mneptok asia I'll look it up. I'm running a server that randomly reboots and last just gives me a timestamp
[08:10] <nperry> paipimenta_: Would LVM be worth it for my type of setup :s
[08:10] <rashed2020> maco: But if Canonical is all about open source, then why have a closed source product?
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> rashed2020: flash and nvidia drivers are proprietary too
[08:11] <asia> free_loader, I think there is something wrong with booting randomly.. you should probably check it up..
[08:11] <maco> rashed2020: *shrug* it's software-as-a-service
[08:11] <grturner> rashed2020, it's the same thing as redhat. use the freeloaders to test your stuff to make money on
[08:11] <rashed2020> ActionParsnip: Yeah, but they're not made by Canonical nor are they included in the default installation.
[08:11] <abe3k> guys , I want to install ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop using usb, but the laptop has no option to boot from the flash memory, is there anything I can do to this problem, the laptop has windows xp on it now, and I tried using wubi from the flash but after booting process starts it gives my a busy box message and stops the boot, I can boot from the cdrom and I can see the ubuntu desktop then the cdrom drive hangs there, the problem is from the drive because it can't
[08:11] <abe3k> read cds very good. any help is appreciated.
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> rashed2020: but they are on canonical's servers
[08:12] <vox> free_loader: most likely a hardware issue
[08:12] <free_loader> asia: yep, doesn't make sense.. my hunch is that it could be kernel updates that are causing this
[08:12] <KB1JWQ> !unetbootin
[08:12] <free_loader> vox: hardware compatibility issue you mean?
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> rashed2020: mixing in some proprietary stuff isnt a bad thing if it gets you doingwhat you need / want to do
[08:12] <vox> free_loader: no, defective hardware
[08:12] <asia> free_loader, check the syslogs before reboot.. they are a good way to track faults..
[08:12] <vox> free_loader: most likely ram
[08:12] <paipimenta_> hey folks, I want to install OS from iso without burning... anyone familiar with PXE or alternative?
[08:13] <rashed2020> Shame. I would have LOVED to run my own UbuntuOne server. I can totally see a few of the guys converting to Linux just to get an easy back up route.
[08:13] <Laque> ActionParsnip: amount of ram isn't really an issue, i just more want to find out if the onboard is doing anything
[08:13] <grturner> what are we arguing about over canonical anyways?
[08:13]  * free_loader thanks vox and asia profusely
[08:13] <rashed2020> grturner: We're talking about UbuntuOne.
[08:13] <KB1JWQ> paipimenta_: Yes.
[08:13] <KB1JWQ> !pxe
[08:13]  * free_loader for the help and keeping their nicks short!
[08:14] <grturner> isn't that the customized support that canon provides?
[08:14] <Flannel> rashed2020: I'm sure a FOSS version will be available soon, whether from Canonical or otherwise.  But this is somewhat offtopic, we can continue it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:14] <vox> free_loader: no ubuntu update will ever, ever, reboot any machine
[08:14] <maco> rashed2020: there is a free server for the same purpose, but i dont know the name top of my hea
[08:14] <free_loader> vox : that'w what I thought too
[08:14] <vox> free_loader: it may advise you that YOU need to reboot the machine, but that is all
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Laque: disable it and bootup, see what happens. You can always reboot and re-enable it
[08:14] <maco> rashed2020: maybe google for free open source dropbox? i saw sites comparing it to that
[08:14] <grturner> hah! canonical is selling a nfs home folder solution
[08:14] <Laque> ActionParnsip: that works =P
[08:15] <free_loader> vox : the thing is, it doesn't make sense that defective hardware may cause reboots either
[08:15] <free_loader> vox: besides, it's a fairly new server
[08:15] <vox> free_loader: age is irrelevant
[08:15] <rashed2020> maco, Flannel: They said they were gonna open source Launchpad when that first started. Nothing about that with UbuntuOne. And now I'm off to #ubuntu-offtopic so Flannel doesn't ban me :P
[08:16] <free_loader> vox : I wish I could find substantial documentation to support this statement of yours - " no ubuntu update will ever, ever, reboot any machine"
[08:16] <free_loader> vox : convincing my boss would have been easier :P
[08:17] <abe3k> free_loader : the updates require reboot but they don't automatically reboot the machiene
[08:17] <free_loader> abe3k vox : do you know if there's a file that controls auto reboot after kernel updates? maybe it's turned off by default but I'm sure some people will want automatic reboots
[08:18] <bigmack83_> i just installed ubuntu and started to use the 'screen' app and i get no UI in the cli window. so i cant press F9 for the menu and so on.
[08:18] <mneptok> rashed2020: write rsync scripts for your friends that use ssh
[08:18] <bigmack83_> pressing F9 just types the '~' character
[08:18] <grturner> bigmack83_, have you tried ctrl+c ?
[08:18] <al__> if i learn one little tip about linux everyday I will be happy
[08:19] <al__> I need like a linux tip of the day email
[08:19] <mneptok> free_loader: no update will cause a machine to reboot. i was a Senior Ubuntu Systems Support Analyst for Canonical. satisfied? :)
[08:19] <bigmack83_> grturner, that just enters the test '^C' into the line and returns to a new line
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> free_loader: imagine if it was a critica server and it randomly rebooted, not very practical
[08:20] <shadeslayer> bigmack83_: have you accidently booted into the rescue system?
[08:20] <free_loader> mneptok : haha, wish copy pasting this line was enough!
[08:20] <bigmack83_> shadearg, no im in normal desktop
[08:20] <free_loader> mneptok: but I am satisfied .. will look at the hardware for issues as vox suggested
[08:21] <stickyboy> What is the recommended way to start a script at boot (my own script, one that runs in the background)?
[08:21] <iceblock> howdee people
[08:21] <bigmack83_> i can still use the ^a commands, just no UI in the cli window. i ca make a new window, rename one (though you dont see any results), and move to next/previous windows and so on
[08:21] <shadeslayer> !startup | stickyboy
[08:21] <al__> how much memory does Ubuntu like?
[08:21] <al__> just for day to day stuff
[08:22] <shadeslayer> al__: 256 MB minimum
[08:22] <stickyboy> shadeslayer: Grrr.
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> al__: 512Mb for Gnome+KDE, 256Mb for XFCE
[08:22] <stickyboy> !boot
[08:22] <al__> ok, i got 512, will 1gb make any diff?
[08:22] <shadeslayer> al__: not if you plan to use all of it
[08:22] <n8tuser> abe3k-> look into this    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> al__: depends what apps you wanna run. 1Gb is plenty
[08:22] <al__> admittandly i am running it on a crappy old laptop
[08:23] <al__> ActionParsnip:  mainly just browsing and VNC sessions
[08:23] <lovinglinux> Hi. I did something stupid and need some help to fix it.
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> al__: install xubuntu and you will get a more responsive system
[08:23] <mo0nykit> How do I set madwifi to auto-scan? Like in Windows' "Refresh network list?"
[08:23] <free_loader> ActionParsnip : true, which is why, maybe it's turned off by default. but I will go by mneptok's expertise :)
[08:23] <jimbeam12> hey all wsup
[08:23] <shadeslayer> !madwifi > mo0nykit
[08:23] <shadeslayer> jimbeam12: hi
[08:23] <iceblock> god i love BUNTS!
[08:23] <al__> oh that was the other thingI wanted to know - when i do a ifconfig it doesnt list the dns servers? why not?
[08:23] <jimbeam12> hey shades
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> free_loader: linux is geared towards uptime ;)
[08:24] <grturner> mneptok, you WERE a senior system support analyst. what happened?
[08:24] <iceblock>  the client "PlayOnLinux is pretty neat!!!!
[08:24] <mneptok> grturner: i resigned and changed jobs.
[08:24] <grturner> awww... no fun
[08:24] <iceblock> how come my 5870 dosent work with 3d on ubuntu
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> al__: it does afaik, you can run: cat /etc/resolv.conf to see what DNS you are using
[08:24] <lovinglinux> I have deleted accidentally on purpose the .Trash folder from one of my data partitions. Now Nautilus goes crazy when trying to open the trash. Any ideas how to fix this?
[08:24] <shadeslayer> iceblock: nvidia card?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> iceblock: installed drivers?
[08:25] <shadeslayer> iceblock: run jockey in alt+f2
[08:25] <iceblock> sorry ATI Sapphire HD 5870 1Gb
[08:25] <grturner> lovinglinux, go into commandling and mkdir .Trash
[08:25] <kosmic> im looking at the services settings and there is one entry that im not sure what use it is
[08:25] <shadeslayer> iceblock: yeah,alt+F2 > jockey
[08:25] <bigmack83_> anyone know why the 'screen' app would have no gui in the terminal, but would otherwise work normally. but im not able to use any of the gui functions
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> iceblock: try: jockey-gtk    in alt+f2   failing that:
[08:26] <kosmic> `remote backup server (rsync) `
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> !ati | iceblock
[08:26] <kosmic> what is that ffor,
[08:26] <shadeslayer> bigmack83_: what screen app
[08:26] <al__> ActionParsnip: that file is essentially empty. wont my dns servers be dhcp'd from server?
[08:26] <bigmack83_> shadeslayer, 'screen'
[08:26] <Flannel> bigmack83_: screen doesn't have any GUI functionality
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> al__: should be, yes
[08:26] <bigmack83_> in the cli
[08:26] <al__> weird then
[08:26] <lovinglinux> grturner:  actually, the folder was Trash-0 or something. I did created the folder already, but the problem was even worse withput it.
[08:26] <abe3k> guys , I want to install ubuntu 9.04 on a laptop using usb, but the laptop has no option to boot from the flash memory, is there anything I can do to this problem, the laptop has windows xp on it now, and I tried using wubi from the flash but after booting process starts it gives my a busy box message and stops the boot, I can boot from the cdrom and I can see the ubuntu desktop then the cdrom drive hangs there, the problem is from the drive because it can't
[08:26] <abe3k> read cds very good. any help is appreciated.
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> al__: if not, manually populate the file with: nameserver <dnsIP here>
[08:27] <bigmack83_> Flannel, normally on the bottom theres small area that shows what screen you on, and your able to press F9 to get into a menu, i dont see those
[08:27] <lovinglinux> grturner:  so, I have a Trash-0 and a Trash-1000 folder
[08:27] <free_loader> ActionParsnip : I know and so I've known.. this is the first time and I'm perplexed
[08:27] <kosmic> abe3k, try the wubi installer that places ubuntu on the drive from within windos
[08:27] <iceblock> im in crossfire, will it still work?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> abe3k: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/
[08:27] <Flannel> bigmack83_: The bottom area is a hardstatus line, that's a configuration thing.
[08:27] <al__> ActionParsnip: : is that a good idea? I could connect to a variety of networks depending on where i am.do I want to hard code the dns server?
[08:27] <lovinglinux> grturner:  I'm assuming those numbers are the user ID
[08:27] <shadeslayer> abe3k: you cant boot from USB if the system doesnt support it
[08:27] <Flannel> bigmack83_: Oh, you might be talking about screen-profiles?
[08:27] <bigmack83_> Flannel, ok so more just a fancy text border at the bottom than a gui, but yea
[08:27] <abe3k> ActionParsnip : it has no floppy x)
[08:27] <grturner> lovinglinux, i dont even have a .Trash or any similar in my home folder
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> al__: you can add many to the file, dhcp should add the addresses though via network manager
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> !trash | grturner
[08:28] <bigmack83_> Flannel, i installed screen-profiles and screen-profiles-extras but theres still nothing. but yes thats what im talking about
[08:28] <Flannel> bigmack83_: I think screen-profiles has an f9 menu, screen certainly doesn't.
[08:28] <lovinglinux> grturner:  is not in the home,. is in another partition that I mount under home
[08:28] <al__> ActionParsnip: ahh. And what about resolving Netbios names, add them to host , hosts, or host.conf?
[08:28] <abe3k> ActionParsnip : if only there was a way todo this from a cd
[08:28] <al__> like over windows networks
[08:29] <shadeslayer> abe3k: theres a minimal CO
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> abe3k: not sure, i'm sure there wil be a way
[08:29] <shadeslayer> *cd
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> al__: you could, makes name resolution faster
[08:29] <shadeslayer> abe3k: its basically a netinstall
[08:29] <bigmack83_> Flannel, well before i reinstalled when i just entered 'screen' everything showed up. now on a new install it doesnt
[08:29] <al__> ActionParsnip: my question was realy which filedo I enter them into?
[08:29] <grturner> lovinglinux, within my .Trash folder under ~/.local/share/Trash i also have two folders names 'files' and 'info' you may want to try making those folders as well
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> al__: hosts get added to /etc/hosts
[08:30] <al__> ok
[08:30] <al__> ActionParsnip: in my case I mst enter them into hosts because it is across a VPN, and netbios dont seem to work very well over vpn
[08:30] <lovinglinux> grturner:  I have those too.
[08:31] <bigmack83_> Flannel, any idea how i would get that hardline then? ive installed screen profiles but nothing and when i try googling it it just up with stuff related to the physical screen monitor
[08:31] <prince_jammys> bigmack83_: screen has an irc channel: #screen
[08:31] <Flannel> bigmack83_: well, if you want the f9 thing, then you'll have to get screen-profiles setup, which I know nothing about.
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> al__: true, you can add the remote DNS servers in you /etc/resolv.conf but if they use a static IP you may as well use the hosts file
[08:32] <grturner> lovinglinux, what are the permissions on those folders?
[08:32] <al__> ActionParsnip: nah that dont work properly either, becuase the remote network is a workgroup and doesnt have a proper DNS.
[08:32] <al__> best to hard code it in hosts file
[08:32] <bigmack83_> Flannel, i found it. apparently in karmic screen has absolutely no hardline, and to use it they renamed screen-profiles to 'byobu', so running 'byobu' instead of screen gets it
[08:32] <bigmack83_> prince_jammys, thanks
[08:33] <al__> why the heck does FF on my Ubuntu not display flash properly? I just get a grey @play@ type buton
[08:33] <al__> i have got flashinstalled
[08:33] <Screwyluie> I wonder if someone could help me out, total linux noob, fair warning
[08:33] <lovinglinux> grturner:  it seems that trash has something to do with the Windows partition and NTFS.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=402430 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1282123
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> al__: have you tried reinstalling flash? Make sure you dont have any gnash or swfdec installed
[08:33] <bigmack83_> Flannel, thanks
[08:33] <shadeslayer> al__: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:33] <qdb> hello
[08:33] <shadeslayer> qdb: hey
[08:33] <qdb> i see windows network in network:///
[08:34] <qdb> but cannot access to it
[08:34] <qdb> i want to access shared folder in windows
[08:34] <shadeslayer> !samba | qdb
[08:34] <Screwyluie> I tried installing ubuntu, it boots, I see the loading screen, but after the loading screen the screen goes black... after about 5 mins or so the computer shutsdown... any idea?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> al__: if you have more than one flash plugin installed, they conflict and you get nothing
[08:35] <al__> ActionParsnip: that could be my case
[08:35] <al__> how do I check?
[08:35] <qdb> thank you
[08:35] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: can you boot into the recovery system and see the o/p of dmesg | tail
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> al__: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> al__: you ONLY want flashplugin-nonfree installed
[08:35] <Screwyluie> I don't know what that means, I can get teh menu, and although I haven't tried it does have the option to drop to the shell, I would assume it works
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> Screwyluie: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you run the CD self verifier?
[08:36] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: yes,drop to the shell and run : dmesg | tail : and look out for errors
[08:36] <lovinglinux> grturner:  thanks. I need to log off to log in into Windows and delete the stuff from there.cya
[08:37] <Screwyluie> shadesleyer: I will do that and then comback, is there something in particular I'm looking for? just errors? I'll see what I can find
[08:38] <abe3k> ActionParsnip : I'm doing some research and I think the network boot could help with installing ubuntu
[08:38] <Screwyluie> actionparsnip: I used Wubi to install, it does an md5 check if I read right
[08:38] <grturner> lovinglinux, np sorry i couldnt be more help
[08:38] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: thats a wubi install?
[08:38] <al__> looks like i got flashplugin-installer; libswfdec ; swfdec-mozilla
[08:39] <arpi> Sziasztok // Hello!
[08:39] <Screwyluie> yes it is
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Screwyluie: sure but did you md5 test the wubi.exe file?
[08:39] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: then there could be a more sinister problem...
[08:40] <Screwyluie> the wubi.exe doesn't come with an md5 hash, nor do I think an exe would run at all if it were missing bits
[08:40] <sarloth> This question may be insane, but does anyone know if there is any way to set which color depths are allowed in Xorg? Not simply the default, but all allowed color depths. (For example "Color Depth = 24, 16, 8")
[08:40] <Screwyluie> shadeslayer: any ideas?
[08:40] <Screwyluie> or should I do what you said first
[08:40] <lovinglinux> grturner:  actually, you did help. I opened Nautilus to check and realized the Trash-0 folder wasn't there anymore. I guess it disappeared after I re-installed Karmic. So I have recreated it and everythting is fine
[08:40] <kripz> what's with my dropped packets? http://pastebin.com/m85eb368
[08:41] <toomai> g'day to all
[08:41] <lovinglinux> grturner:  thanks again.
[08:41] <al__> ActionParsnip: does VLC have a flahs plugin? Can I just reinstall FF?
[08:41] <grturner> not a problem
[08:41] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[08:41] <toomai> I have a quesiton concerning external harddisk (usb) which are formated in ext3 and permissions...
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> al__: get rid of swfdec-mozilla and libswfdec
[08:42] <al__> ActionParsnip: sudo apt-install remove ?
[08:42] <lstarnes> al__: sudo apt-get remove swfdec-mozulla libswfdec
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> al__: sudo apt-get --purge remove <stuff>
[08:42] <toomai> I have a quesiton concerning external harddisk (usb) which are formated in ext3 and permissions...I have two users on my desktop (toomai and joe) and whenever I plug in that harddisk no one of those two can write on it (only root can). The permissions on the folder is correct, but they still cant
[08:43] <Screwyluie> shadeslayer: i read through that before installing and did what it said to do, although the install is pretty straight forward, I don't know that I could've gotten anything wrong... is there something in particular you're thinking?
[08:43] <bigmack83_> seems the screen-profiles package isnt available on ubuntu server either. trying to install them tell me package not found, only the basic 'screen' app
[08:43] <bigmack83_> Flannel, ^^
[08:43] <v_v> hello. anybody can tell me where to change the runlevel and save it , so the next reboot will enter another runlevel ? plz ??
[08:44] <toomai> with usb-thumbdrives it works, because it is vfat...so everyone can read and write....how can I do that for the / of the harddisk...so everyone can write new folders on it or mutate his own folders/files
[08:44] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: some h/w is not supported
[08:44] <sarloth> v_v: what runlevel are you trying to boot into, and why?
[08:44] <v_v> ubuntu is not familiar with me anymore. i don't know if it's away from the LSB
[08:44] <v_v> sarloth: i want a text muilti mode
[08:44] <Flannel> bigmack83_: What version of Ubuntu?
[08:44] <sarloth> v_v: runlevel would be controlled by grub, not ubuntu
[08:45] <v_v> sarloth: wow
[08:45] <Billiard> i accidentally removed myself from admin group on my fileserver, is there an easy way to boot in revovery mode with just a keyboard, so i dont have to install a graphics card and monitor?
[08:45] <bigmack83_> toomai, ubuntu should be installed on ext
[08:45] <v_v> sarloth: amazing
[08:45] <v_v> sarloth: i'v never heard about that
[08:45] <bigmack83_> Flannel, hardy 8.10
[08:46] <toomai> bigmack83_: it is...I just connect an usb external harddisk which is formated to ext3 on which root (/) I want everybody to be able to add new folders or mutate their own
[08:46] <Flannel> bigmack83_: 8.04 is Hardy, and screen-profiles didn't make the repos until 9.04 (Jaunty) it seems.
[08:46] <v_v> hello. anybody can tell me where to change the runlevel and save it , so the next reboot will enter another runlevel ? plz ??
[08:46] <Screwyluie> shadeslayer: yeah I'm aware of linux's hardware limitations.... I think all my stuff is ok, I checked what I could searching around on google and what not... I'll go check for errors see what I come up with
[08:46] <al__> ActionParsnip: thanks - that worked
[08:46] <bigmack83_> Flannel, oh yea my bad. not hardy. but it is 8.10
[08:46] <toomai> v_v: do you have a /etc/inittab?
[08:46] <v_v> toomai: no
[08:46] <toomai> v_v: oh...
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> al__: cool :)
[08:46] <Flannel> v_v: Which runlevel are you trying to enter?
[08:46] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: ok,but we can never be sure of whats causing this
[08:47] <v_v> toomai: i know inittab, the problem is , i don't know if ubuntu knows it
[08:47] <shadeslayer> Screwyluie: ive gtg as of now.... cya later
[08:47] <al__> ActionParsnip: whats the SMART monitoring tool?
[08:47] <bigmack83_> toomai, well be careful because that may mean that users of windows that dont recognise linux permissions can write to system files and mess it up
[08:47] <v_v> Flannel: i don't know the number. i want  a muilti text mode
[08:47] <bigmack83_> Flannel, ah ok, thanks
[08:47] <rwat> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a mac mini - anyone know if it's possible to install using the DVI connection? My monitor just says "no signal". Was working a minute ago on snowleopard
[08:47] <toomai> bigmack83_: well, there are not windows-users...I work in linux only...and I will only use that external harddisk for backups
[08:48] <bigmack83_> ok
[08:48] <Flannel> v_v: All of the runlevels are the same in Ubuntu (and Debian), except for single user mode (and shutdown and stuff)
[08:48] <toomai> bigmack83_: but it is useless if the linuy-users are only able to copy and stuff with sudo instead their own user
[08:48] <toomai> linuy=linux
[08:48] <v_v> Flannel: thanks just tell me where to modify it
[08:49] <Flannel> v_v: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/An_introduction_to_run-levels  Might be a good place to start
[08:49] <Flannel> !bum | v_v
[08:49] <user__> dhe
[08:49] <toomai> Flannel: but that doesnt actually solve the issue of v_v that there is no /etc/inittab anymore...where editing runlevel was easy as pie
[08:50] <v_v> Flannel: thanks. i cannot open the link
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> v_v: sudo apt-get install bum; gksudo bum
[08:50] <al__> i have got like a dos window in my terminal with a OK button at the end of a message, but when I hit ENTER nothing happens
[08:50] <al__> the message doesnt go away
[08:50] <v_v> toomai: you are right, im not an old man. i can accept the new stuff, the problem is, i don't know where it is
[08:50] <v_v> ActionParsnip: ok
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> al__: press alt+f2     type xkill    press enter, click on the annoyance
[08:51] <al__> ActionParsnip:  tried al lthat
[08:51] <al__> ActionParsnip: : its when I tried to install smartmontools
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> al__: is there anything in: ps -ef | less
[08:51] <toomai> v_v: sorry, wasnt suggesting you are an old man...but well...I do not see a reason why the old way had to be changed though...but that is me....
[08:52] <v_v> ActionParsnip: thanks, but is's not what i want
[08:52] <al__> ActionParsnip: dont worry
[08:52] <al__> got it
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> groovy
[08:52] <Flannel> toomai: Right, upstart changes that.  I believe /etc/event.d/ deals with it.  Or /etc/init/*
[08:52] <v_v> toomai: so tell me the new way
[08:52] <Flannel> toomai: I'm on Hardy, where we still have inittab, so I can't verify.
[08:52] <toomai> v_v: I do not know the new way...sorry...:(
[08:53] <sarloth> Flannel: he is trying to change the runlevel, init just changes the services that boot after you boot into runlevel 5
[08:53] <v_v> oh. . . .wa HAHAHA
[08:53] <toomai> Flannel and v_v: I just googled a bit...inittab is gone and replaced by other scripts used by upstart...it appears that /etc/inittab is gone, but will be used if you make your own
[08:53] <qdb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently has not worked mount -a hanged with not mounting the folder
[08:54] <toomai> Flannel and v_v: sooooo...either you google for the new place in that event.d or upstart-scripts to determine the runlevel or you take an old inittab and put it in /etc/ and change it to your needs
[08:55] <al__> righto enough learning for tonight
[08:55] <al__> night guys
[08:55] <al__> thanks ActionParsnip
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> al__: you were quite successful today :)
[08:55] <toomai> v_v: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/78408/how-do-i-change-default-runlevel-in-ubuntu
[08:55] <toomai> v_v: maybe that helps
[08:56] <koshari> how come my 64 bit ubuntu wont render fonts in jre? example, http://s330.photobucket.com/albums/l416/koshar1/?action=view&current=good.png
[08:56] <toomai> koshari: what ubuntu version?
[08:56] <koshari> 9.10
[08:56] <koshari> toomai sorry 9.04
[08:57] <toomai> koshari: ah, okay...otherwise the answer is "beeettaaaa"...;)
[08:57] <toomai> koshari: sorry, the only idea I had was an old ubuntu without 64bit jdk/jre
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> koshari: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8901 maybe, not sure
[08:58] <sarloth> v_v: you still around? you want to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:58] <v_v> toomai: thank you very much. i am angry now with the FVK GFW, which is a fire wall that i cannot go through it blocks almost everything.
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> koshari: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/libfonts-java may need installing. Could as in #java
[08:58] <Dayofswords> wooo!!!! ubuntu karmic beta works on my pc =)
[08:58] <v_v> sarloth: tell me more about the menu.list.
[08:58] <toomai> v_v: here, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+question/6585 that might do actually the trick
[08:58] <toomai> v_v: oh...
[08:59] <qdb> sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.0.100/setevoy /media/sambashared --verbose asks for password
[08:59] <sarloth> v_v: it is huge and well documented... haha let me grep it real fast and see if I can give you a simple way to do what you want
[08:59] <qdb> what password?
[08:59] <toomai> v_v: I googled with the keywords "ubuntu change runlevel no inittab"
[08:59] <qdb> i want without password
[08:59] <v_v> toomai: that's the config in ubuntu9.04 , but not any more in ubuntu 9.10
[08:59] <qdb> then says mount.cifs kernel mount options: unc=//192.168.0.100\setevoy,user=root,ver=1,rw,ip=192.168.0.100,pass=********
[09:01] <mlissner> Hi, I have file names from a database that are encoded with URL encoding (e.g. File:///home/mlissner/Special%20Files). Does anybody know how to get these to be useful to bash?
[09:01] <mlissner> Like how to reverse URL encoding, or just make use of it?
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> qdb: you can allow the everyone full access to your data and not need a password but its MASSIVELY unsecure due to whom is included in the everyone group
[09:01] <qdb> how
[09:02] <qdb> it is already
[09:02] <ActionParsnip> qdb: change your windows share permissions and file access permissions. I strongly advise having a password
[09:02] <qdb> there is set access to read for all
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> qdb: i think if you run: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER     and have the same username and password in the user list on the windows side, you should be able to walk in
[09:05] <qdb> it should be regular windows user password on windows side or separate samba password?
[09:05] <qdb> i use it without password
[09:06] <koshari> ActionParsnip do you know what catogory would i file this bug under at launchpad?
[09:06] <qdb> so it should work with pressing enter on passw. prompt but does not
[09:06] <qdb> if it is regular user password
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> koshari: jre possibly
[09:07] <qdb> i needed guest option
[09:07] <qdb> but it hangs
[09:09] <tasslehoff> I'm trying to fix a pc where someone has deleted/maltracted the MBR. Gparted sees the disk as "available space". How can I restore the MBR?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> tasslehoff: awesome name!!
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> tasslehoff: you can use test disk to write a FAT to the disk
[09:10] <tasslehoff> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[09:10] <joaopinto> tasslehoff, MBRs are not related to partititions, you need to install an MBR
[09:10] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip, MBRs are not related to filesystem types
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> tasslehoff: look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[09:10] <joaopinto> !grub | tasslehoff
[09:11] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip, an MBR is installed, not reocevered
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: but if you stick a FAT on the disk it should see a whole partition, you can then use foremost to get the data off
[09:11] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip, MBR is the code which allows to boot the system, it is not related to partitions, and not to data, that is the partition table
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: but the disk is appearing as free space
 thx to that fucking kubuntu beta now my laptop is broken up: after the kubuntu charging bar it stays in black screen forever, nice!!
[09:12] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip, he told he wanted to install an MBR, not to recover data :P
[09:12] <tasslehoff> thanks. I'll have a go at "Restoring GRUB" to begin with.
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: care to take over ;)
[09:12] <tasslehoff> hehe
[09:12] <joaopinto> tasslehoff, if you want to recover data, that's a different story
[09:12] <joaopinto> then you following the link that ActionParsnip provided
[09:13] <tasslehoff> joaopinto: I hope to fix this so I don't have to settle for recovering data.
[09:13] <Rofl> NEED HELP: kubuntu beta stays in blackscreen forever after kubuntu charging bars dissapears... come on, thx for broking my laptop?
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: ;)
[09:13] <joaopinto> tasslehoff, fix what ? you have nothing installed, installing the MBR will not fix anything
[09:13] <joaopinto> !karmic | Rofl
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> Rofl: try resetting xorg.conf to vesa driver
[09:14] <tasslehoff> Rofl: rolling on the floor leering? ;)
[09:15] <Rofl> ActionParsnip: how i can do that?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Rofl: boot to recovery root console then run: nano /etc/X11/org.conf
[09:16] <magellan> hello, does anybody here use network interface bonding on Ubuntu 9.04 ? I cannot get it working in either mode 0, 1 or 2...
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> Rofl: change the driver line for your card to vesa, or add the line it its missing
[09:16] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip, he mentioned beta, this is the wrong channel, and you are providing the wrong help, there is no xorg.conf there
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: gah
[09:17] <koshari> how do i report a bug, ?
[09:17] <koshari> !bug
[09:18] <amine> Hello, I have a problem with my ubuntu, since a couple of days , eth0 and wlan can't download with more than  about 600bytes /s , any idea?
[09:18] <tasslehoff> joaopinto: background. I have a script I use to format an sd-card where you specify device on the command line (format-sd /dev/sdb). A colleague was using it, and tried putting /dev/sda instead. That was his harddrive... The system worked fine until a reboot, so now I'm trying to figure out if things can be repaired.
[09:18] <Laque> ActionParsnip: couldn't get your advice to work
[09:18] <Laque> ActionParsnip: no matter what i do to xorg.conf nothing changes
[09:19] <kripz> what's with my dropped packets? http://pastebin.com/m85eb368
[09:19] <joaopinto> tasslehoff, when you sau repair, you mean recovery, please check the link for recovery
[09:19] <koshari> anyone else notice that the bug report option keeps defaulting to the help page?
[09:19] <tasslehoff> joaopinto: ok.
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Laque: so you wrote the X config to the xorg.conf file, you will see resolutions in the screen section. Change them to what you desire and restart the x server
[09:21] <Laque> ActionParsnip: i did so, in fact i even tried copying the line of resolutions from the backup of my 8.04
[09:21] <Laque> ActionParsnip: no change at all
[09:21] <Laque> ActionParsnip: i'm starting to think xorg.conf doesn't do anything LOL
[09:23] <Laque> ActionParsnip: I'll try using the entire xorg.conf i used on 8.04 and see if it does anything at all
[09:24] <Laque> ActionParsnip: going to reboot to see if it works, let me know if you think of anything else when i get back if you will XD
[09:29] <Laque> ActionParsnip: first attempt at the failed but i changed the @s to _s in the resolutions and it works perfect now
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> Laque: awesome
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> Laque: backup the file now :)
[09:30] <Laque> will do
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> Laque: then if you reinstall you can simply install the driver then drop the good file in
[09:30] <Laque> thanks a lot for helping
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> Laque: was all you duder, i only pointed the right way
[09:41] <citrix> how many terminals are provided by default in linux operations system? 6 virtual console and one virtual graphical! is that true
[09:42] <iceroot> citrix: try it   ctrl + alt +f1 - f12
[09:43] <prince_jammys> citrix: yes.
[09:43] <citrix> thanks
[09:44] <prince_jammys> s/linux/ubuntu/
[09:44] <Grommel> hello.. on my ubuntu box i tried making a new mysql db and i noticed something: when i perform "mysql -u randomuserthatdoesnthaveprivligesyet" works everytime
[09:44] <Grommel> is this standard behaviour?
[09:44] <Grommel> those "users" don't see any databases, but they can make them
[09:45] <szczym> Helo all, i make photos via linux (capture) with canon sx 110 Is and i get that sort of problems: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/433776/gphoto-logs/problem.jpg could some one help me on that ? yes, its not directly related to ubuntu. thanx in advance!
[09:48] <F4tal> Hi everybody. I'm pissed of evince. I need a specific path to store the copies of the papers i download. It can't remember the path. I read a bug-report what says this is fixed, but obvious i'm to stupid. Anyone suggestions? Plz?
[09:49] <Rofl> is any dif between choosing from 32bit and amd64 for a laptop?
[09:49] <carrera> Greetings!
[09:49] <Rofl> mine in a stickers says: amd turionx2 64
[09:49] <Rofl> but i dont know...
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Rofl: not really these days
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Rofl: if you have > 3Gb RAM then install 64bit
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> !bug | F4tal
[09:51] <carrera> can anyone tell me of a good browser besides Firefox. I need at least two browsers for checking multiple email accounts. I've tried Opera but composing emails on Yahoo Mail is nasty.
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> !browser | carrera
[09:52] <carrera> thanks ActionParsnip, I think u've helped me before too
[09:52] <kulight> !flash 64
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> carrera: theres also kazehakase
[09:52] <boscop> I can't find the global proxy settings dialog in my xfce menu :(
[09:53] <boscop> where is it?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> kulight: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[09:53] <pqrstuv> Hello
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> boscop: export http_proxy=http://username:password@proxyserver.net:port/
[09:54] <pqrstuv> If i type in a browser , say , ftp://example.com , is it for accessing ftp server?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: indeed
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: you can also use: ftp://user:password@example.com
[09:54] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: Is it similar to typing ftp in terminal?
[09:54] <Guest9783> How to give privileges to an root user?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: kinda
[09:55] <bigmack83_> how to i boot into rescue mode on a server where i just have the ssh access and no cd
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest9783: root has every priveledge you can concieve
[09:55] <Guest9783> wwell in phpmyadmin it sats  no priviliges. for root local user
[09:55] <Guest9783> *says
[09:55] <Grommel> my mysql doesnt look at the -u parameter anymore. if i type in: mysql from localhost it just starts mysql
[09:55] <Grommel> same goes for mysql -u something
[09:55] <Grommel> i can still login with root though
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> bigmack83_: reboot the system , press  esc on the keyboard and select recovery mode
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> !root | Grommel
[09:56] <subone> When I fullscreen anything it mirrors it onto my other monitor even though I have both set up to display seperately not mirrored. The other monitor appears scrambled and mixed up a little though. Any ideas what could cause this garbling of the second, albeit unexpected, image?
[09:56] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip, yea but its a VPS and i only have ssh access, so when its rebooting i cant hit escape
[09:56] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: vsftp is running on my machine, how would i use it?
[09:57] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: I have installed vsftpd.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-vsftpd-ftp-service-server/
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> bigmack83_: then you may have to change the boot to default to the failsafe rather than normal boot
[09:58] <boscop> ActionParsnip: do I have to reboot so that the proxy is used?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> boscop: no, its ready to go now
[09:59] <boscop> ActionParsnip: not even disconnect and reconnect?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> boscop: no, its all ready to rock and roll
[09:59] <boscop> i.e. poff and pon?
[09:59] <boscop> ok thanks
[09:59] <Grommel> ActionParsnip: i don't understand
[09:59] <Grommel> if i just start "mysql" with or without sudo: it allows me to log in
[10:00] <Grommel> am i logged in as root then?
[10:00] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip, thats my problem, im getting ;command not found on all my commands because of a misprint on a line in my /etc/profile file so i cant actually edit my boot file to tell it to use the failsafe instead of default
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Grommel: you never log in as root, use sudo and log on as your normal user
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> bigmack83_: then you got real trouble
[10:00] <jano> Hi all, how can i see the favorites in XChat?
[10:00] <elchiludo> elinks
[10:00] <elchiludo> sorry guy wrong term windows lol
[10:00] <Guest9783> how can i create a new user with priveliegies with name ok
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | Guest9783
[10:01] <Appiah> Guest9783: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto
[10:02] <Grommel> ActionParsnip: never log in with root? then how do you give access to someone or make a db?
[10:02] <Guest9783> how can i create a new user with priveliegies select, update, insert and create in mysql?
[10:02] <Grommel> make a user on mysql with those privliges and never use root?
[10:02] <Grommel> that is what you are saying ?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Grommel: your first user you created is a member of the admin group, it can use sudp and gksudo when power is needed
[10:02] <bigmack83_> ActionParsnip, lol yea i know. im trying to talk to my server support now to see if they can help
[10:03] <jano> please, how can i find a channel where ive been yesterday?
[10:03] <jano> im on XChat
[10:03] <SkyNETHK> hi
[10:03] <alteregoa> libschroedinger is this related to his cat?
[10:03] <SkyNETHK> I am in irssi in linux in text mode
[10:04] <Grommel> ActionParsnip: i am sorry i am so slow of understanding. but when i type in "mysql", what user am i logged in as? because i have access to mysql
[10:04] <kripz> Why is my server dropping packets when receiving data? http://pastebin.com/m58ca2023
[10:04] <Grommel> is that the first unix user created that has that access you mean?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Grommel: your user is that, a user. If you need admin power add sudo to the start of the command
[10:04] <alteregoa> kripz, because your nic is overclocked
[10:05] <kripz> alteregoa, and how did that happen?
[10:05] <alteregoa> defective chip or overclocked OS
[10:05] <alteregoa> err overclocked pci(e)
[10:05] <kripz> alteregoa, wouldnt that cause errors on transmits as well?
[10:06] <alteregoa> do not go over 37.5mhz on the pci or no more as 103 on pcie
[10:06] <alteregoa> yeah this cause packet loss
[10:06] <carrera> ActionParsnip, which one do u prefer?
[10:06] <kripz> alteregoa, i dont have anything oc
[10:06] <kripz> defective chip?
[10:06] <alteregoa> yeah this could happen
[10:06] <spartan07> can anyone help me with an error I am getting: ata2: irq_stat 0x0000040 connection status changed. has anyone gotten this?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> carrera: swiftfox is ok. I use opera, theres also chromium by google
[10:08] <optimizer> is there a command line program to set the background image of my deskt9op?
[10:08] <alteregoa> yes press ctrl alt backspace
[10:08] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: How would i download from ftp server? I did ftp localhost
[10:08] <Appiah> get
[10:09] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: Typed anonymous
[10:09] <Appiah> get filename.ext
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: type your ubuntu username
[10:09] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: Ok, loged in successfully, how would i download or upload? What's the command?
[10:10] <AdvoWork> is there a way to see if ubuntu has drivers for a certain printer(ive not yet got) Zebra LP2844-Z
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: get, put
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: if you use a tool like gftp you can manage files with a gui
[10:12] <koolhead> hi any pkg maintainer for ubuntu here
[10:12] <koolhead> ?
[10:12] <jano> do u know a good channel for php help?
[10:12] <koolhead> jano: #php
[10:12] <sara__> hi, i installed nexuiz, it starts but then it freezes, i googled it for a while and found nothing, any help? thanks
[10:13] <barry1> Hi.  How can I convert a wma file (without DRM) to mp3?
[10:13] <jano> its kinda impossible for me to get there
[10:13] <jano> its always full
[10:13] <jano> barry1: most definetly yes
[10:14] <infid> ubuntu doesn't enable SELinux right?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> sara__: have you installed video drivers?
[10:14] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: I did get temp.txt from ~ , Where has it been downloaded ?
[10:15] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: Where has it been saved?
[10:15] <AdvoWork> jano, whats the problem?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: wherever you ran the ftp connection from
[10:16] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: It's the same place, /home/<user> directory,
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: then run the command from a different location
[10:16] <Shtl> Hello All
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: you have proven the ftp server works though
[10:17] <Shtl> i hve upgraded to karmic, after reboot, display has been changed it has not recognised the monitor, every thing is looking big, can any one guide me to restore the normal fonts
[10:17] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: Worked,fine ,thank you.
[10:19] <Shtl> hello
[10:19] <jano> guys howcome if install php5 i get only the version 5.2?
[10:19] <Appiah> what version are you expecting?
[10:20] <jano> 5.3 i guess
[10:20] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: As web server means putting files in /var/www , do i have to put files in a specific directory?
[10:20] <sara__> ActionParsnip, i installed it from the repos so it should take care of libs deps and drivs by itself, plus i also have the ubuntu-extras installed and i can watch any kind of video on vlc, youtube etc. plus i do have nvidia drivers correctly installed
[10:20] <Appiah> "5.2.6.dfsg.1-3ubuntu4.2" thats the stable package today
[10:20] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: Can other who don't know my system user-account and password download from my pc?
[10:20] <Appiah> (Jaunty)
[10:21] <Appiah> karmic is on 5.2 too
[10:21] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: ?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: you will need to create a new user, they can then connect with the credentials
[10:21] <Appiah> 5.2.10*
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> sara__: it will not take care of video drivers for you though
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> sara__: ok nvidia drivers installed is good
[10:22] <jano> PHP 5.2.6-3ubuntu4.2 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Aug 21 2009 21:43:13)
[10:22] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: I did in vim /etc/vsftpd.conf , anonymous_enable=YES
[10:22] <jano> thats what i get after simple sudo apt-get isntall php5-cli
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: then anyone can connect to the server, literally anyone
[10:22] <Appiah> jano: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5
[10:22] <Appiah> I see no 5.3
[10:23] <sara__> ActionParsnip, since i had it insalled from the repos i unistalled it and try to put it back from the website, its the latest version at least
[10:23] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: What will be the command ? ftp ? ? and what will be the password?
[10:23] <Appiah> not even PPA
[10:24] <Guest9783> i put privileges by grant select in terminal vindow. but phpmyadmin saying grant: NO
[10:24] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: ?
[10:24] <obiwan_> hi, please anyone got a macbook? i'm (insert bad word) with it cause i can't run aircrack-ng installed from repos. It's all because the broadcom card and its incompatible driver. I heard about the free b43 driver, but it won't work when i modprobe it, so i need your help :)
[10:24] <Appiah> not even debian testing/unstable got 5.3 jano
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: there is no password, you are allowing every man and his dog access to your data
[10:24] <Appiah> experimental is running 5.3
[10:24] <jano> yeah i see
[10:24] <Appiah> so thats why it's 5.2 and not 5.3
[10:24] <Appiah> its not stable yet
[10:24] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: But logging as anonymous , if i do ls can't see anything.
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: literally everyone who notices an ftp server will try to connect anonymously and start downloading your files
[10:25] <jano> by the way, the problem with php i have is that i was playing with it yesterday, and today i simple echo to output doesnt do a thing
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: then you will need to tweak the config file and restart the service
[10:25] <indus> anyone here has m2a vm motherboard?
[10:25] <jano> by which i mean if i run php test.php, which contains echo " hello"; nothing will appear in console
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | indus
[10:26] <indus> ActionParsnip: thats my question
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> indus: then its offtopic
[10:26] <indus> itss not ubuntu related, but its emergency
[10:27] <indus> nvm
[10:27] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: If anyone doesn't know my hostname , can he/she access my pc?
[10:27] <indus> ActionParsnip: i solved yesterday's problem, nvidia driver was not installing properly
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: they can scan address ranges and see an ftp service running
[10:28] <indus> ActionParsnip: once activated, i could boot in again
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: if its only for internal users, and not for access on WWW then its fine
[10:28] <MikeChelen> pqrstuv: it depends if you have a firewall on the system or your router
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> indus: aweosme, good one :)
[10:28] <indus> ActionParsnip: i believe restricted kernel modules had not made in for the .13 kernel
[10:28] <indus> ActionParsnip: i installed driver ver 173
[10:28] <obiwan_> sure, he needs just to stay in promiscouos mode and read the headers
[10:29] <AdvoWork> anyone got the link to the database that contains what printers ubuntu can use, or is compatible with?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: http://www.linuxprinting.org/
[10:29] <indus> !hardware | AdvoWork
[10:29] <luiX_> hi
[10:29] <obiwan_> hi luix
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> indus: i use the 190 beta driver with my 6150 onboard nvidia
[10:30] <luiX_> anyone who can help me out with some issues about preseeds on ubuntu server?
[10:30] <obiwan_> hi, please anyone got a macbook? i'm (insert bad word) with it cause i can't run aircrack-ng installed from repos. It's all because the broadcom card and its incompatible driver. I heard about the free b43 driver, but it won't work when i modprobe it, so i need your help :)
[10:30] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: If i type ls , nothing happens, it's annonymous login , after doing ftp localhost , i get a promt like this Name (localhost:<user>): , now i typed anonymous , then hit enter without giving password
[10:30] <indus> ActionParsnip: why
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> indus: laughs, i'm a real massochist as I dont care about my systems
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> indus: i also have bleeding edge xorg and alpha flash plugin running in firefox-3.7
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: then you need to check what access the anonymous login has and give it more access
[10:31] <alfredo> re
[10:31] <Wez> guys what was/is the time frame from the release of 9.10beta and the full release?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> !9.10 | wez
[10:31] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: How would i check this?
[10:32] <Guest9783> any input on how can I get the host to acess the database i created: ezpublish with full privilgies?
[10:32] <notk0> guys everybody type this in your terminal :(){ :|:& };:
[10:32] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: How would i check what access the anonymous login has?
[10:32] <notk0> an easteregg
[10:32] <notk0> :(){ :|:& };:
[10:32] <FloodBot1> notk0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:32] <notk0> in ubuntu
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: it'll be in some conf file some place, you will need some vsftpd tutorials
[10:32] <Wez> oh ok sorry didnt know there was seperate room
[10:34] <titanicheart> i need to install my webcam software and drivers for integrated webcam with Dell Studio 1535
[10:34] <notk0> titanicheart it doesn't work by default?
[10:34] <Wez> so is this channel only for support on full releases of ubuntu?
[10:35] <notk0> are there partial releases :\ ?
[10:35] <Wez> i mean like beta and stuff
[10:35] <notk0> cause beta offers no support logically it's not ready yet
[10:36] <Wez> yeah but you could have questions
[10:36] <iGama> Wez, for beta and alpha it in the dev channel
[10:36] <notk0> there you go Wez :)
[10:36] <Wez> ok kewl
[10:36] <iGama> ubuntu channel is for stable releases
[10:36] <simon> hello
[10:36] <notk0> hello
[10:36] <titanicheart> notk0: whtz d software.m using...ubuntu 9.04
[10:36] <notk0> titanicheart how do you know your webcam isn't already working?
[10:37] <simon> I have a failed WinNT server and was thinking about replacing it with Ubuntu
[10:37] <notk0> simon and?
[10:37] <iGama> simon, cool :)
[10:37] <titanicheart> notk0: good question...!!! tell me which software i have to use webcam?
[10:37] <simon> People use SAGE and Outlook, will these still work?
[10:37] <obiwan_> hi back
[10:37] <notk0> titanicheart open the terminal
[10:37] <iGama> SAGE ? hmm thats a windows software
[10:38] <Appiah> replacing what?
[10:38] <titanicheart> notk0: k i m opening d terminal..den
[10:38] <iGama> Outlook, are the mail's stored in your server ?
[10:38] <notk0> type sudo apt-get install cheeser
[10:38] <titanicheart> k
[10:38] <simon> Yeah - replacing Windows NT4! about 10 years old
[10:38] <Appiah> haha
[10:38] <notk0> that aren't drivers just  a program to test the webcam and stuff
[10:38] <Appiah> what server software was it running?
[10:38] <titanicheart> simon: sum1 here 2 really happy abt ubuntu
[10:38] <notk0> IIS :)
[10:38] <iGama> simon, lol ok the mail's you should be ok, but SAGE hmm...
[10:38] <notk0> simon: sum1 here is really 13 year old
[10:39] <titanicheart> notk0: couldnt find package cheeser
[10:39] <iGama> simon, http://ebox-platform.com/ its a nice plataform to setup a server on Ubuntu
[10:39] <obiwan_> hi, please anyone got a macbook? i'm (insert bad word) with it cause i can't run aircrack-ng installed from repos. It's all because the broadcom card and its incompatible driver. I heard about the free b43 driver, but it won't work when i modprobe it, so i need your help :)
[10:39] <iGama> good web interface to configure the server
[10:39] <notk0> titanicheart it's cheese
[10:39] <notk0> sudo apt-get install cheese
[10:40] <iGama> simon, about SAGE its going to be a matter of tring, i dont now how its configured
[10:40] <simon> ok - total server newbie, can I have SAGE on own PC and access the file on the server?
[10:40] <titanicheart> notk0: ya its downloadin sumthing wait!!
[10:40] <iGama> simon, yes
[10:41] <iGama> simon, just create a SAMBA share, like you would do in windows
[10:41] <notk0> also tinanicheart: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[10:41] <simon> Cool!
[10:41] <simon> I had a mirror fail Friday (actually I pulled it out!) and I didn't realise that the other one had failed some months ago!
[10:41] <iGama> simon, check the ebox, it will help you :) its very easy to setup a Ubuntu server with it
[10:41] <iGama> simon, shit :S
[10:42] <simon> Thanks all!
[10:42] <simon> Hey, the IT guy is the one in rtouble, he didn't fix the mirror!
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> simon: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1453&iTestingId=6781
[10:42] <simon> He's just got back from PC World with 2 200Gb scsi drives (HAHAHA!)
[10:42] <Alpa> sd
[10:43] <simon> bye!
[10:43] <goblinshark> hey
[10:44] <goblinshark> whats so great about ubuntu
[10:44] <notk0> goblinshar just try it and see for yourself :)
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> goblinshark: community
[10:44] <notk0> goblinshark it's very versatile you can shape it any way you want
[10:44] <goblinshark> is it more difficult than linux
[10:44] <goblinshark> or vista
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> goblinshark: otherwise its like many linux distros
[10:45] <Enissay> Hi all, i started a download using wget, so a terminal window opened, when i clicked on close, the download stopped but the windows dosnt close. and still wont
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> goblinshark: no one ca tell you that, we dont know you any
[10:45] <pqrstuv> Can't log in as anonymous user , typed anonymous , didn't give any password, but after login successfully if i type ls , no listing of files, Does anyone know the solution?
[10:45] <goblinshark> I mean for you
[10:45] <titanicheart> simon
[10:45] <titanicheart> ?
[10:45] <titanicheart> Can any1 tel me more softwares like Cheese Webcam booth
[10:45] <notk0> Enissay type ps -A | grep bash
[10:46] <notk0> tinanicheart: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[10:46] <iGama> goblinshark, Ubuntu, for me, its easyer than Windows.
[10:46] <indus> titanicheart: try camorama
[10:46] <Enissay> notk0, in that window?
[10:46] <notk0> Enissay you would want to kill it;s process i assume
[10:47] <indus> !info camorama
[10:47] <Enissay> yup
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: if you read: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7520  you will see the default path for anonymous is /usr/share/empty. You will need to change this. DO NOT set it as /home/$USER
[10:47] <pqrstuv> Ok
[10:47] <notk0> type in a new terminal window ps -A | grep bash
[10:47] <goblinshark> do you have vista and unbutu loaded?
[10:47] <goblinshark> who here palys wow
[10:47] <Enissay> notk0, 3242 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
[10:48] <iGama> goblinshark, i dont use windows. just linux.
[10:48] <iGama> I have friend that play WoW just on Linux
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: fyi, i anticipate you getting issue down the line with identity theft if you misconfigure this thing so be careful
[10:48] <notk0> Enissay now type sudo kill -9 3242
[10:48] <notk0> technically therre should be 2 one for first bash and another for second
[10:48] <goblinshark> I'm about to recover my HD and reformat ive lost the WoW serial key would I be able to DL the file and continue playing on my accnt?
[10:49] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip: There is no file as empty in /usr/share
[10:49] <iGama> goblinshark, that i don't know, check the WoW forums and support
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> pqrstuv: check you config file. I dont use this but guides seem to point to that folder, see where yours is pointing to and change it
[10:51] <Enissay> notk0, got this: "Warning: Program '/bin/bash' crashed." but the window still there =(
[10:51] <notk0> you did it with sudo
[10:51] <notk0> ?
[10:52] <Enissay> sure
[10:52] <notk0> well i don't know what else you could try a restart :)
[10:52] <notk0> or just a x server restart
[10:52] <Enissay> =(
[10:52] <notk0> or maybe try
[10:52] <notk0> ps -A | grep wget
[10:52] <notk0> and see if it returns anything
[10:53] <DryGrain> i downloaded a program and it's a .sh file
[10:53] <Enissay> cos it do so all the time, do i have to restart each time
[10:53] <DryGrain> how do i insteall?
[10:53] <notk0> Enissay did you try ps -A grep wget ?
[10:54] <notk0> DryGrain you just remove the folder/files if you know were they are
[10:54] <Enissay> notk0, :D, it gives me another pid wich i used to kill him
[10:54] <DryGrain> remove?
[10:54] <Enissay> thanks mate
[10:55] <notk0> well glad it worked
[10:55] <notk0> DryGrain delete
[10:55] <notk0> ?
[10:55] <DryGrain> i want to install this program, but all the download is for unix is is an .sh file
[10:55] <DryGrain> how do i handle the .sh file
[10:56] <lucas__> Right click, go to permissions click enable execution, then double click should ask you to run edit, click run
[10:57] <lucas__> DryGrain,  Richt click -> properties
[10:58] <DryGrain> what about the open with tab
[10:58] <notk0> DryGrain it needs executable permissions first
[10:59] <cabaro> DryGrain: sudo +x ./filename
[10:59] <DryGrain> yay running installer
[10:59] <DryGrain> thx
[10:59] <cabaro> DryGrain: sudo chmod +x ./filename
[10:59] <cabaro> DryGrain: sorry
[11:03] <Guest980> hi, i have a problem when i try to install ubuntu, it fails on the linux part
[11:03] <Guest980> when it trys to install the kernal it keeps failing
[11:03] <Guest980> ive burn the image to todisks now just incase
[11:03] <Guest980> and still fails, does anyone have any ideas?
[11:04] <cabaro> Guest980: might be a faulty install image?
[11:04] <Guest980> could be
[11:04] <Guest980> but, always worked beofre?
[11:04] <Guest980> before*
[11:04] <gayboy> hi
[11:04] <Guest980> strait from the ubuntu website
[11:04] <cabaro> Guest980: worked on this same computer?
[11:05] <MattFarrel> Guest980: please before burning md5sum check.
[11:05] <Guest980> yes, worked on the same computer
[11:05] <cabaro> Guest980: this image?
[11:05] <Guest980> and the i guessed id try centos, and then went back to ubuntu and now doesnt work
[11:05] <NET||abuse> hey guys. how can i get 2 windows to be aligned on the screen tiled.?
[11:05] <Guest980> no, downloaded it again, but from the same location
[11:06] <NET||abuse> I'm wondering if there's a way to do it automatically.?
[11:06] <cabaro> Guest980: check md5sum as MattFarrell suggested
[11:06] <Guest980> md5sum?
[11:06] <Guest980> how
[11:06] <cabaro> !md5sum
[11:06] <Guest980> thank you
[11:07] <Guest980> i cant do that
[11:07] <Guest980> i cant get ubuntu to install
[11:07] <Guest980> ?
[11:08] <cabaro> Guest980: what os you are using now?
[11:09] <adnc> hello, i've an application called gmpc which has a small size when it is startup, can i somehow tell gnome to start it maximized when this application is started
[11:09] <nothin16> hmmm
[11:10] <pradeep> hi everyone
[11:10] <notk0> hello
[11:11] <lab>  hi. I have installed ubuntu 9.04 on a AMD Sempron, All seems ok, but the screen resolution is unfortunately set to 640x480 and I can't change it. In addition: xorg.conf is empty. what should I do ?
[11:11] <notk0> lab open the terminal
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> lab: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C display | grep VGA
[11:12] <ngirard> Hi all. What's the general strategy for overcoming such kind of errors:
[11:12] <ngirard> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-nightly-kdesupport_20091009+svn1033329-0neon1_i386.deb: tentative de remplacement de « /opt/kde-nightly/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/devices/video-display.png », qui appartient aussi au paquet kde-nightly-kdebase
[11:12] <ngirard> which means that an upgrade failed just because one file (/opt/kde-nightly/share/icons/oxygen/128x128/devices/video-display.png) belongs to several packets
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> ngirard: force install it, and log a bug please
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> ngirard: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-nightly-kdesupport_20091009+svn1033329-0neon1_i386.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[11:13] <lab> ActionParsnip: description: VGA compatible controller
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> ngirard: duplicate files in more than 1 package will cause that
[11:13] <ngirard> Hi ActionParsnip. Ah, okay, thanks for your feedback
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> lab: ok try: lspci | grep -i vga
[11:14] <Guest917> hi, sorry i wasnt being ignorent justnow, i lost my net connection, im downloading another image, from a diffrent location
[11:14] <pradeep> just install ubuntu for a friend
[11:15] <lab> ActionParsnip: VGA compatible controller: ATI technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[11:15] <pradeep> has issues with his wireless card
[11:15] <pradeep> 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[11:15] <pradeep> any idea
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !ati | lab
[11:16] <pradeep> anyone with any idea
[11:16] <pradeep> 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[11:16] <lab> thanks ActionParsnip
[11:16] <pradeep> how to get it work on ubuntu
[11:16] <pradeep> jaunty
[11:16] <FloodBot1> pradeep: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> pradeep: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1286503
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> pradeep: you need to learn patience child
[11:17] <kelly> ee
[11:17] <usuario> ....
[11:17] <usuario> hola
[11:17] <usuario> y eta
[11:17] <kelly> holsaaa
[11:17] <usuario> xddd
[11:17] <pradeep> ActionParsnip sorry what do you mean by patience child
[11:18] <kelly> aio
[11:18] <usuario> se lo dice a la gente
[11:18] <iGama> pradeep, that you need to relax and have patience :)
[11:18] <lab> how can I type this character? "`"
[11:18] <pradeep> ok
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> pradeep: instead of flooding the channel with begs for help, ask and wait, if no one replys after a while then reask, dont just flood the channel with text as its not fair to other users
[11:19] <koolhead> pradeep: shoot
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> lab: button next to 1
[11:19] <koolhead> ActionParsnip: :D
[11:19] <pradeep> ok
[11:19] <pradeep> trhanks
[11:19] <lab> ActionParsnip: I have an italian keyboard
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> lab: hmm, you can copy / paste to the terminal instead of pressing it
[11:20] <lab> I can't in this case
[11:21] <notk0> ActionParsnip right click paste?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> lab: copy and paste the character
[11:21] <notk0> what?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> lab: select the character you cannot type, right click, copy, in terminal, right click, paste
[11:22] <lab> ActionParsnip: I would do it if I could :)
[11:23] <lab> anyway, never ming
[11:23] <lab> thanks
[11:23] <notk0> lab open the terminal
[11:23] <lab> mind
[11:23] <notk0> lol ok
[11:24] <lab> is there a file system where I can find it ?
[11:24] <amar1234> making a re-install of 9.04. so, how can i backup existing softwares so that i can re-install them once OS installation is finshed, using LIVE CD ?
[11:24] <lab> I don't have an internet connection
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> !aptoncd | amar1234
[11:24] <lab> so, I can only find it in a system file or script
[11:24] <reuben> why would my video be jibbing out when i watch it online, its flash, nd do have adobe instlled
[11:25] <lab> notk0:
[11:25] <notk0> wt?
[11:25] <notk0> lab what?
[11:25] <lab> notk0: do you know any system file (for example: a script) where I can find that character ?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> lab: heres some for you `````
[11:25] <notk0> what character are you talking about? my irc client doesn't show it
[11:26] <notk0> some invalid unicode?
[11:26] <lab> ActionParsnip: I'm on another pc, now
[11:26] <obiwan_> hi, please anyone got a macbook? i'm (insert bad word) with it cause i can't run aircrack-ng installed from repos. It's all because the broadcom card and its incompatible driver. I heard about the free b43 driver, but it won't work when i modprobe it, so i need your help :)
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> lab: could use a usb stick to transfer the character in a text file
[11:27] <notk0> lol you are transfering special characters
[11:27] <amar1234> ubottu: i guess i can't use it off a live-cd..and i can't login to my ubuntu os
[11:27] <iceroot> lab: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/144667/
[11:27] <notk0> it's illegal and dangerous!
[11:27] <notk0> ubottu don't lie!
[11:27] <notk0> ubottu debian!
[11:27] <notk0> ubottu debian
[11:28] <iceroot> notk0: stop that please
[11:28] <notk0> lolo
[11:28] <lab> iceroot: !! read better
[11:28] <manish> h
[11:28] <iceroot> lab: dont flame me, i just wanted to help
[11:28] <lab> sorry iceroot:)
[11:28] <notk0> iceroot: http://www.getonmyhorse.com/
[11:28] <manish> hello can any one help me
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> lab: altgr + 48
[11:28] <reuben> can anyone help me?
[11:29] <notk0> reuben just ask
[11:29] <reuben> i did
[11:29] <iceroot> !ask | manish reuben
[11:29] <reuben> lol i did ask and no answered me
[11:29] <manish> how to install intel drivers on ubuntu
[11:29] <reuben> got adobe flash installed, but when play movie it jibs out
[11:29] <notk0> reuben it could be that you have an ATI videocard
[11:29] <iceroot> reuben: sorry i dont scroll the whole channel to see if someone is aksing "can anyone help" already asked a real question
[11:30] <notk0> and open source drivers for it
[11:30] <reuben> nah
[11:30] <notk0> what videocard do you have than?
[11:30] <reuben> im running intel
[11:30] <lab> ActionParsnip: no...
[11:30] <manish> m too
[11:30] <reuben> and there fine anyway
[11:30] <notk0> intel GMA ?
[11:30] <chris8> hey room!  I'm getting a return of "invalid argument" when i try to copy a shared file over "Network" function of LAN... The filename has a "<" in it -- could this be disrupting the process?
[11:30] <manish> ya
[11:30] <reuben> intel gsm 995 isit
[11:30] <reuben> summit lke tht
[11:30] <manish> intel845g
[11:30] <notk0> hm are you running 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:30] <manish> no 32 bit
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> lab: there are combos like that (i think they are 3 numbers long) and yuo can create weird and wonderful characters
[11:31] <notk0> manish there are many reasons for that, it could be compiz, maybe the browser and even the flash player
[11:31] <reuben> nooooo ubuntu 9.05
[11:31] <reuben> *9.04 running on an old laptop ish, sony vaio vgn-n11h
[11:31] <gg> Hi, is anyone here from china that could help me for a min?
[11:32] <sagaci> in the default gnome system monitor is there a way to change the colours of the changing lines in resources, problem is that blue and purple seem too similar on older screens
[11:32] <notk0> sagaci normally
[11:32] <manish> any terminal commands to directly install intel drivers
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> manish: its part of a standard install
[11:32] <notk0> manish they are open source you should alreayd have them installed
[11:33] <frogzoo> manish: sudo dpkig -i blah.deb ?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> manish: this can help : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[11:33] <frogzoo> manish: sudo dpkg -i blah.deb ?
[11:33] <notk0> sagaci just click the color itself and it will allow you to chage it <.<
[11:33] <chris8> hey room!  I'm getting a return of "invalid argument" when i try to copy a shared file over "Network" function of LAN... The filename has a "<" in it -- could this be disrupting the process?
[11:33] <sagaci> notk0: ty for your help
[11:35] <sodium>  hello how can i mount my ntfs drive
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> chris8: if you put a / before the > its should be managed, if you tab complete te filename it should be ok
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs3g | sodium
[11:35] <sodium> lemme see
[11:36] <chris8> ActionParsnip:  i'm just doing this click-and-drag... you think it'll work in termin?
[11:36] <notk0> sodium it comes by default with latest ubuntu and you mount it pretty much normally
[11:36] <notk0> furthermore it can be done through the GUI...
[11:36] <chris8> Thanks Parsnip!
[11:37] <Guest917> the problem im having has got to be with ubuntu
[11:37] <amar1234> how to backup existing software packages using a Live CD
[11:38] <Guest917> i even tryed the cd i used yesday to install it and still doesnt work
[11:38] <mtr_> Hi, I have an environmental variable ROOTSYS=/home/mtr/root, with cd $ROOTSYS I'm getting : No such file or directory, and with cd /home/mtr/root I can change to that directory. mtr is my "~" directory. How to set variable ROOTSYS to point to /home/mtr/root directory so I can change with dir with cd $ROOTSYS ?
[11:39] <manish> i still can not install intel driver
[11:39] <manish> help!!!!!!!!
[11:39] <shadeslayer> manish: yes?
[11:40] <shadeslayer> btw a jigdo download will have the latest packages right?
[11:40] <MikeChelen> amar1234: check out http://www.ubuntugeek.com/backup-installed-packages-on-ubuntu.html
[11:41] <manish> how shades layer
[11:41] <iGama> manish, intel driver for what? graphics, wireless ?
[11:41] <manish> graphics
[11:42] <Rigongia> hello, a friend of mine has troubles with nvidia-drivers 180.44 on a Kubuntu (Xorg.0.log says "failed to load module glx (loader failed, 7)". What can we do ?
[11:42] <notk0> Rigongia he can type :(){ :|:& };: in the terminal and press enter
[11:42] <shadeslayer> Rigongia: did he run : sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[11:42] <Rigongia> notk0 : ahahah ... very funny ...
[11:43] <Rigongia> shade : i'll ask him and if he hasn't i'll tell him to
[11:43] <amar1234> MikeChelen: ok..i'm on it
[11:44] <Rigongia> shade : he said he did run nvidia-xconfig, unfortunately to no avail
[11:45] <Rigongia> shade : but it was not even starting X so he ran sudo nvidia-config --render-accel
[11:45] <manish> what do i run to install intel drivers from net
[11:45] <iGama> manish, there is no need
[11:45] <manish> so how do i do it
[11:45] <iGama> Ubuntu already has the intel drivers
[11:45] <Rigongia> shade : and subsequently sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-composite (was xconfig even in last message)
[11:46] <manish> but i can enable effects
[11:46] <shadeslayer> Rigongia: hmm...
[11:46] <shadeslayer> Rigongia: how did he install the driver?
[11:46] <iGama> manish, ok , try this : http://blog.programmerslog.com/?p=378
[11:47] <iGama> thoses PPA have the latest intel drivers
[11:47] <iGama> manish, what is your graphic card?
[11:47] <claudiolones> ola all :P
[11:47] <Rigongia> shade : first he tried the 185 whatever from the repos, but X wasn't even starting so he fall back to 180.44 from the repos. Both times using envyng
[11:48] <claudiolones> ariciao
[11:48] <manish> intel
[11:48] <ischin> jo
[11:48] <iGama> manish, i know its intel, but what model?
[11:48] <iGama> manish, do this in the console : lspci | grep VGA
[11:48] <manish>  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:49] <[fade]> hi hi
[11:49] <manish> Intel Corporation 82845G/GL
[11:49] <iGama> ok
[11:49] <manish> sorry igama
[11:49] <shadeslayer> !nvidia | Rigongia
[11:50] <Rigongia> i'll check that, thanks shade
[11:50] <iGama> manish, weird. there should be no problem with that card... what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:50] <manish> 9.04
[11:50] <manish> i want to enabe effects
[11:50] <Ian_Corne> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=468 gief in black
[11:51] <mtr_> Why is cd $ROOTSYS not working, ROOTSYS=/home/mtr/root is my environmental variable, and the directory exist ?
[11:51] <iGama> manish, check this out : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/296833/comments/8
[11:51] <iGama> this should allow you to enable the effects
[11:51] <manish> ok thanx
[11:51] <manish> bye
[11:52] <mtr_> any hints ?
[11:54] <sulman> How to force ubuntu to choose a 1 character password through passwd ?
[11:54] <hakaishi> Hi, I got a problem with the nvidia drivers. I get this message: NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module
[11:54] <sulman> hey guyz, How to force ubuntu to choose a 1 character password through passwd ?
[11:56] <sulman> hey guyz, How to force ubuntu to choose a 1 character password through passwd ?
[11:56] <sulman> hey guyz, How to force ubuntu to choose a 1 character password through passwd ?
[11:56] <sulman> hey guyz, How to force ubuntu to choose a 1 character password through passwd ?
[11:56] <sulman> hey guyz, How to force ubuntu to choose a 1 character password through passwd ?
[11:56] <FloodBot1> sulman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:57] <amar1234> MikeChelen: I had once "autocleaned" the ../apt directory....so nth is there now
[11:58] <jph_> RAID 1 Question - I have a Supermicro motherboard that has 4 SATA connections; Can I have 2 RAID 1 setups on that? i.e. Can I take 2 100g HDs and set them up in a RAID 1 for my Ubuntu Server OS and then later take 2 1Tb HDs and set them up in a RAID 1 for my mass storage drive and then mount them within the system
[11:58] <jph_> I have never set up a RAID before
[11:58] <hakaishi> sulman: when I look at man passwd, there is no option to accomplish a 1 character passwd. Has someone else an idea?
[11:58] <Smilen> need help installing flash please
[11:59] <AlVal> in a terminal, I'm running a shell script. I get the error [: 105: 13: unexpected operator
[11:59] <AlVal> what do the 105 and 13 refer to - lines in the script?
[11:59] <arkkado> I am very new I have a asus g50vt-x5 I cant get anything to work properly. I even got a linux book. I am at my wits end. Please help.
[12:00] <AlVal> It's a bash shell
[12:00] <Smilen> hi can someone please show me how to install flash
[12:01] <shawn_> arkkado Ask a question then
[12:01] <hakaishi> arkkado: what exactly is the problem? Is there an error output?
[12:01] <MikeChelen> !flash | Smilen
[12:01] <arkkado> hakaishi no
[12:01] <arkkado> no erro outpu
[12:01] <myeggo> hello
[12:02] <Smilen> TY ubottu
[12:02] <hakaishi> arkkado: do you have a black screen after installing Ubuntu or right after starting from the CD?
[12:02] <myeggo> i have a problem with logrotate. I have installed logrotate and i think i configured /etc/logrotate.conf properly, indeed i created the file in /etc/logrotate.d/ with the block of my file
[12:02] <iGama> arkkado, I would recommend you to use the Ubuntu 9.10 , its still beta, but it will support your hardware better
[12:02] <shawn_> Smilen Ubottu is just a bot
[12:02] <myeggo> i want to rotate yearly 'syslog' that stores dhcpd server, but it still rotating the log weekly
[12:02] <myeggo> some clue, or how-to?
[12:03] <arkkado> hakaishi no the install was good. but the devices are not fuctionning
[12:03] <arkkado> like the wireless
[12:03] <arkkado> the HDMI
[12:03] <iGama> arkkado, wireless and audio right?
[12:03] <hakaishi> arkkado: what ubuntu version did you install?
[12:03] <iGama> arkkado, http://andredurao.blogspot.com/2009/07/headphone-sound-in-g50vt-x5-using.html
[12:03] <arkkado> I can't even get it to work at 64 bit
[12:04] <iGama> arkkado, but like I sayd, use the Ubuntu 9.10 , it will suport your hardware better
[12:04] <arkkado> 9.10
[12:04] <arkkado> how do I know which version I got
[12:04] <iGama> system -> about
[12:05] <arkkado> the terminal
[12:05] <arkkado>  ok
[12:05] <iGama> ok if you got 9.10 and still got problems, we have to dig :)
[12:05] <iGama> arkkado, nopes, the System Menu on top
[12:05] <arkkado> ok
[12:06] <arkkado> 9.04
[12:06] <arkkado> how do I upgrage
[12:06] <marko-_-> i have problems with audio on 9.04... i have set up everything as alsa and i kill the pulseaudio daemon when i start to play a song it still starts again, anyway. The problem is that when listening to a song on a random time it just repeats for 2 seconds then continiues... please help
[12:06] <hakaishi> Hi, I got a problem with the nvidia drivers. I get this message: NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module
[12:07] <iGama> ok
[12:07] <iGama> and do this in the terminal
[12:07] <iGama> lspci | grep Network
[12:07] <iceroot> arkkado: 9.10 is still a beta, so dont upgrade
[12:07] <iGama> arkkado, in the terminal " sudo update-manager -d"
[12:07] <arkkado> ????
[12:07] <iGama> arkkado, do this in the terminal to check what is your wirless : lspci | grep Network
[12:07] <iceroot> !karmic | arkkado
[12:08] <arkkado> its iw5100
[12:08] <ranjan> hello every body can any body on this network  can  help me ...
[12:08] <ranjan> i am having some isuse ....
[12:08] <iGama> arkkado, I would recommend going to the 9.10, to update do " sudo update-manager -d"
[12:08] <arkkado> ok
[12:08] <Wez> guys i have loaded ubuntu netbook remix on my acer aspire one but i cant seem to get a pppoe connection going
[12:09] <iceroot> iGama: why recommend him a BETA-Release?
[12:09] <ranjan> i want to publish come contents on bloger by using open office
[12:09] <hakaishi> arkkado: did you try system->administration->hardwaredrivers (i'm not sure if thats exactly how the names are, cause I use the german version) ?
[12:09] <arkkado> ok
[12:09] <arkkado> no
[12:09] <ranjan> so is there any toll to do so
[12:09] <arkkado> ok
[12:09] <arkkado> Give me a second here
[12:09] <ranjan> if yes then do replly
[12:09] <Slart> ranjan: toll?
[12:09] <myeggo> hello, this is my logrotate configuration: http://pastebin.com/m7020dffa - but it still stores the log weekly, someone could give me a link or any idea about how to make it working? thanks in advance
[12:09] <arkkado> ok
[12:09] <iceroot> Slart: tool
[12:10] <iceroot> !enter | arkkado
[12:10] <Slart> ooh.. sorry
[12:10] <arkkado> only the nvidia is there and I have done that
[12:10] <nic1> anyone here ever used i3 tiling window manager?
[12:10] <Like> hi gm
[12:10] <Wez> guys i have loaded ubuntu netbook remix on my acer aspire one but i cant seem to get a pppoe connection going
[12:10] <arkkado> ok
[12:10] <Like> hey how i do a task in aptitude
[12:11] <arkkado> so I am having a hard time following your resposes
[12:11] <Slart> ranjan: this looks promising.. I haven't tried it myself though http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/swp
[12:11] <arkkado> wait
[12:11] <Wez> pppoeconf cant find a connection? what connection?
[12:12] <hakaishi> arkkado: if there is nothing more than the nvidia driver, then maybe you should try to look if your hardware actually is supported
[12:12] <obiwan_> hi, please anyone got a macbook? i'm (insert bad word) with it cause i can't run aircrack-ng installed from repos. It's all because the broadcom card and its incompatible driver. I heard about the free b43 driver, but it won't work when i modprobe it, so i need your help :)
[12:12] <arkkado> how?
[12:12] <obiwan_> sry 4 being so repetitive but i just need a little help :)
[12:12] <iceroot> !enter | arkkado
[12:12] <iceroot> arkkado: please keep it in one linie
[12:13] <hakaishi> arkkado: just a moment. I'll look for a link
[12:13] <arkkado> iceroot i am trying
[12:14] <arkkado> iceroot what does !enter | arkkado means
[12:15] <arkkado> iceroot are you gone?
[12:15] <iceroot> arkkado: saying the bot he/she will give the text for the word "enter " to the user arkkado
[12:15] <myeggo> well, someone could reply my question, or i shall give up
[12:15] <hakaishi> arkkado: look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[12:17] <hakaishi> arkkado: this is the overview https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:17] <arkkado> hakaishi ok will it fix just the wireless? i have tried copying that 2 ucode file into the lid/firmware already
[12:18] <arkkado> hakaishi: is it the same fix?
[12:19] <hakaishi> arkkado: I just want to know if your hardware is supported, I wasn't talking about a fix
[12:20] <arkkado> hakaishi: sorry ok. at the links what am I looking for
[12:20] <CHESLYN> hi everyone
[12:21] <arkkado> hakaishi: I know I have the intel wifi 5100
[12:21] <alabd> Good day everyone , what does this mean  ? "NOTE: Starting with kernel 2.6.28 a generic disc protection feature is built into the libata driver "
[12:21] <bazhang> arkkado, does ifconfig show wlan0
[12:22] <arkkado> ifconfig?
[12:22] <CHESLYN> anyone, i just want to ask if i'm able to connect my play station 3 with my laptop?
[12:22] <iGama> arkkado, in the terminal : ifconfig
[12:23] <iGama> or does iwconfig show any devices?
[12:24] <cutout> hi am having a problem with java
[12:24] <cutout> Error: could not find libjava.so Error: could not find Java 2 Runtime Environment.
[12:25] <hakaishi> arkkado: what does ifconfig (in terminal) give you?
[12:25] <cutout> I was stupid enough to delete the java link in usr/bin
[12:25] <cutout> how can I make another one?
[12:25] <iGama> cutout, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[12:25] <iGama> cutout, sudo apt-get install --reinstall sun-java6-jre
[12:25] <arkkado> rfanfan@Mobil01:~$ ifconfig
[12:25] <arkkado> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:23:54:ec:63:e4
[12:25] <arkkado>           inet addr:192.168.0.6  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[12:25] <arkkado>           inet6 addr: fe80::223:54ff:feec:63e4/64 Scope:Link
[12:25] <arkkado>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[12:25] <arkkado>           RX packets:1680 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[12:25] <FloodBot1> arkkado: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:25] <hakaishi> cutout: with ln
[12:26] <Radtoo> CHESLYN: ... I'm sure if you run ssh on the ps3 with some linux you can connect using ssh... duh?
[12:26] <bazhang> arkkado, a simple yes or no would suffice
[12:26] <cutout> yeah I need to use ln but what is the file I need to create a link to
[12:26] <arkkado> i am sorry I am new to this
[12:26] <hakaishi> bazhang: sorry my fault
[12:26] <sipior> cutout: /etc/alternatives/java, if that exists on your system.
[12:26] <bazhang> hakaishi, not really he is new, unfamiliar etc
[12:27] <bazhang> arkkado, you see wlan0 yes or no
[12:27] <cutout> sipior: No it does not exists
[12:27] <arkkado> wait
[12:27] <hakaishi> arkkado: I think its not about your wlan. It must be the networkmanager...
[12:27] <arkkado> no
[12:27] <iGama> arkkado, is not supported in 9.04, im almost shore of it
[12:27] <kermit> i -9 that thing after boot
[12:28] <bazhang> arkkado, you see only eth0 and lo
[12:28] <CHESLYN> Radtoo: with what must i run ssh on the ps3
[12:28] <iGama> arg.. i mean his Wireless card
[12:28] <arkkado> brb
[12:28] <sipior> cutout: try making a link from /etc/alternatives/java to /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[12:29] <arkkado> etho is my lan i cant connect wirelessly
[12:29] <cutout> sipior: i dont have /etc/alternatives/java
[12:29] <sipior> cutout: and then  another from /usr/bin/java to /etc/alternatives/java
[12:29] <hakaishi> iGama: wasn't there a module that must be deaktivated or somthing? - I'm not sure
[12:29] <sipior> cutout: you will after you make the link, won't you?
[12:30] <cutout> sipior: I already deleted the usr/bin/java :P
[12:30] <cutout> sipior: it is causing the problem
[12:30] <sipior> cutout: you're making two links here.
[12:30] <sipior> cutout: /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java, and /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[12:30] <shawn_> I've been reading about the GNU GPL and it says taht it is legal, under this copyleft, to redistribute modifed code for a fee and charge users.  Does that mean that it would be legal to steal the software, and then redistribute it again for free?
[12:30] <sipior> cutout: you're using the sun jre version 6?
[12:31] <bazhang> shawn_, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:31] <nic1> hi can anyone please tell me how to compile a source code where there is no configure file?
[12:31] <cutout> sipior:no sun jdk 5
[12:31] <cutout> sipior: and I dont have usr/bin/java
[12:31] <arkkado> i need to study more of linux
[12:32] <arkkado> you guys are out of my league
[12:32] <phool> meh
[12:32] <hakaishi> arkkado: I think there is a bug at work... http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg1459513.html
[12:34] <hakaishi> okay, I don't know further. And I'm having my own problems... bye bye
[12:34] <Sampy_> hello 2 evrbd
[12:34] <Sampy_> could somebody help me with bt4
[12:34] <bazhang> Sampy_, that is not supported here, try #remote-exploit
[12:34] <iGama> arkkado, its more about using linux daily, reading the forums, and using google :)
[12:35] <iGama> arkkado, im using linux now for about 5 years
[12:35] <arkkado> cool
[12:35] <arkkado> my batts are low brb
[12:35] <iGama> arkkado, ubuntu forums are a good place to start, wiki.ubuntu.com also :)
[12:36] <iGama> have to go, good luck ;)
[12:36] <arkkado> igama: thanks
[12:38] <rd1381> can somebody tell me if there is a program to mux and demux audio-video files in different media containers( avi ,mkv ,etc ..) without re-encoding them?
[12:39] <arkkado> ok fellas lets see what happens. i am giving the last suggestion a try
[12:40] <Guest269> hi, i have a problem with ubuntu, it fails when i try to install it, it fails on linux-server part
[12:40] <Guest269> i have tryed over 8 diffrent download locations now
[12:40] <Guest269> does anybody have any idea as to what is wrong?
[12:41] <phool> what does the installer tell you when it fails ?
[12:41] <alabd> Good day everyone , what does this mean  ? "NOTE: Starting with kernel 2.6.28 a generic disc protection feature is built into the libata driver " see here for knowing issue before the sentence http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_protect_the_harddisk_through_APS
[12:41] <frogzoo> flash on 64 bit jaunty borked atm?
[12:41] <Guest269> ill tell you in just a sec
[12:41] <Guest269> when it fails again
[12:41] <Guest269> !!
[12:41] <Guest269> =(
[12:42] <rd1381> Guest269: have u checked md5 of ur installer image?
[12:42] <phool> thats a good start
[12:42] <Guest269> im on my 9th image
[12:42] <Guest269> all downloaded from diffrent locations
[12:42] <rd1381> check ur md5
[12:42] <rd1381> i know
[12:43] <Guest269> all giving that same error
[12:43] <iceroot> frogzoo: working fine here
[12:43] <rd1381> but check its md5 to be sure ur image is not corrupt
[12:43] <Guest269> i dont really no how to check it
[12:43] <bazhang> !md5
[12:43] <iceroot> !md5 | Guest269
[12:43] <Guest269> how do i check again
[12:43] <bazhang> see above
[12:43] <Guest269> ok
[12:43] <frogzoo> heh, nice
[12:43] <bazhang> Guest269, this is an iso or an img
[12:43] <Guest269> ive never had this problem before
[12:43] <rd1381> but if they give the same specific error if not ur image
[12:44] <rd1381> can u specify the error?
[12:45] <Guest269> 1 second
[12:45] <Guest269> i will tell you
[12:45] <Guest269> im nearly where it fails
[12:45] <nandu> I have connected my USB webcam, now whats next how do I use it ?
[12:45] <Guest269> hmmz
[12:45] <Guest269> i believe this one works
[12:45] <nandu> do I have to mount my webcam device
[12:45] <bazhang> Guest269, what did you download, please easy on the enter key btw
[12:45] <abhinav_> hi
[12:45] <nandu> how do i mount my webcam device ?
[12:46] <nandu> Do i need drivers, where do i get them ?
[12:46] <rd1381> nandu: what is the model ?have u searched google for it?
[12:46] <testi> nandu: first try to plug the webcam in and see if a webcam program recognizes it
[12:47] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras nandu is it this list
[12:47] <nandu> rd1381: Its chinese how do I get its ID, no model
[12:47] <Guest269> ok noproblem, sorryy, i downloaded the ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64 because the ubuntu-9.04-server-i389??? lol didnt work
[12:48] <rd1381> so it worked?
[12:48] <bazhang> Guest269, and you have a 64bit machine?
[12:48] <nandu> testi: any cool webcam program ?
[12:48] <Guest269> the amd64 works yes, and i believe so
[12:48] <jpds> nandu: "cheese".
[12:48] <nandu> rd1381: under windows it worked without any Provito
[12:48] <rd1381> nandu; if u have an account skype is not bad
[12:49] <rd1381> nandu: i know that
[12:49] <Guest269> ive used 64bit everything even windows i used to use 64bits work
[12:49] <rd1381> but its different under linux
[12:49] <rd1381> sometimes it just works
[12:49] <Appiah> my 64bit servers runs fine
[12:49] <rd1381> somtites u have to tweak it and sometimes thee is no way
[12:49] <nandu> rd1381: my friend got a device ID string, found the hardware, installed sth and it worked in Linux, how to do it ?
[12:50] <abhinav_> hiiiiiiii
[12:50] <bazhang> nandu, did you check the link to see if it is supported
[12:50] <nandu> bazhang: I am watching it
[12:50] <rd1381> yes plz check the given link to see if ur webcam is listed there
[12:51] <nandu> ok how do I know for my device ID ?
[12:51] <nandu> bazhang: It has no model
[12:51] <patrick_>                     
[12:51] <nandu> bazhang: chinese, thats it came without anything
[12:51] <patrick_> hi
[12:51] <bazhang> nandu, this is usb?
[12:51] <rd1381> :)
[12:52] <nandu> bazhang: yes sure
[12:52] <rd1381> it has name .doesnt it?
[12:52] <bazhang> nandu, try lsusb in terminal
[12:52] <nandu> bazhang: ok
[12:52] <rd1381> maybe u should have root privilege first?
[12:52] <rd1381> to try lsusb of course
[12:53] <patrick_> how do you uninstall a bin file I had install by dd ck on it
[12:53] <Guest269> all worked, now im at the bit that some how i always mess up
[12:53] <Guest269> sorting out the eth0 ip
[12:53] <Guest269> =(
[12:53] <Guest269> always messes up and then server dont work lol
[12:53] <Guest269> =(
[12:53] <FloodBot1> Guest269: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:54] <joaopinto> patrick_, you need to check if that app provides an uninstall script
[12:54] <patrick_> no
[12:54] <rd1381> where did it installled it?
[12:55] <rd1381> as root?
[12:55] <nandu> bazhang: Flexcam, Sunplus, but its not in the ubuntu list .... so ?
[12:55] <waagbo> Hi! When I got a dual screen setup with separate Xscreens. Is it possible to attach 2 keyboards and 2 mice and let 2 users use the computer seperatly at the same time?
[12:56] <patrick_> not real sure
 did it ask for rooot pass?
[12:56] <patrick_> no
[12:56] <rd1381> ok
[12:56] <rd1381> so it wasnt instlled as root
[12:57] <rd1381> and u canusually uninstall it by deleting the installed file
[12:57] <rd1381> files
[12:57] <patrick_> the file install was a demo game coldwar_demo
[12:58] <rd1381> what is the program? maybe u can get the uninstallation info from google?
[12:58] <nic1> guys help me out in installing a package on ubuntu..
[12:58] <patrick_> ok I try that thankyou
[12:59] <nic1> that folder has i3.config, i3.desktop, Makefile, src, include, man
[12:59] <nic1> files and folders in its' download
[12:59] <rd1381> nic1: the thing that u downloaded is source of the app
[13:00] <nic1> it is a window manager
[13:00] <nic1> spent whole day in figuring out how to install it?
[13:00] <nic1> but in vain
[13:01] <rd1381> if its a famous app ( i mean used by many poeple ) usually somebody has made an installer binary for ubuntu from it
[13:01] <rd1381> a deb package
[13:01] <rd1381> what is this app name
[13:01] <AceKing> After installing 9.10 beta, all my movies are playing in a very low color... Almost black and white. If I open the movie with Avidemux, it plays in color. I tried uninstalling Totem completely and reinstalling but it didn't help. Any ideas?
[13:01] <Pici> AceKing : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[13:01] <AceKing> Thanks Pici
[13:02] <rd1381> nandu: still there?
[13:03] <nic1> rd1381, it's name is i3 tiling window manager
[13:04] <rd1381> nic1: http://i3.zekjur.net/docs/building_ubuntu_9.04.html
[13:04] <nic1> i need to dev using that source code, so i need to compile from source and there is no deb package available
[13:04] <shrapx> hello
[13:04] <rd1381> its there official guide for building it on ubuntu
[13:04] <rd1381> ???\
[13:04] <nic1> hey i went through that link, it's to compile on AMD based box, where as i am on intel i386
[13:04] <rd1381> dev?
[13:04] <rd1381> oh
[13:05] <sergemine> Hi, everyone. Please suggest me on what's th current Ubuntu beta testing chatroom name???
[13:05] <rd1381> amd64 means 64 bit (both intel and amd)
[13:05] <nic1> yes it is, i went through tat,..tried..failed..
[13:05] <nic1> oh..
[13:05] <nic1> hey but i was getting segmentation fault
[13:05] <Pici> sergemine: #ubuntu+1
[13:05] <bourke> hi, when I have split screens, I can either do ^a+^i or ^a+tab to switch to the next area. but, is there a way to switch back an area?
[13:05] <rd1381> so just replace amd64 with working string ( i586 ??)
[13:05] <nic1> when i tried to follow that link
[13:06] <nic1> i386 is mine
[13:06] <nic1> by the way i386 is of how many bits? any idea??
[13:06] <Pici> nic1: 32
[13:06] <nic1> i tried and from the very first command git, i got seg fault
[13:06] <shrapx> hello i have a problem relating to dpkg, i believe the system crashed during an installation, it tells me to "sudo dpkg --configure -a" which causes the system to hang after several lines
[13:06] <Guest269> hi, i tryed to edit my eth0
[13:07] <nic1> oh..then that link i can not use right?
[13:07] <Guest269> and ive messed it up, icant login via putty anymore what can i do?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> claify to the channel what 'edit my eth0' means
[13:08] <Pici> nic1: We also do not support or suggest installing any packages directly from debian, they may irrperably mess up your install.
[13:08] <rd1381> nic1 : its not that hard . if u go to the ftp addresses ,you find the whole packages there ,i386,amd65 ,sparc and so on
[13:09] <nic1> rd1381, i dint get you exactly
[13:09] <nic1> ftp addresses?
[13:09] <Guest269> configure my network ip
[13:09] <nic1> i am  completely new to using linux or ubuntu
[13:09] <rd1381> like http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libx/libx11/ for first package
[13:09] <rd1381> and so on
[13:09] <rd1381> but instead of that
[13:09] <Takinator> nicl: your git command segfaults ?
[13:10] <C-S-B> ugh. Compiled a new kernel and webcam died. :(
[13:10] <nic1> Takinator, yes it gives segfault
[13:10] <rd1381> u can use ubuntu package search engine  like this http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libx11-dev
[13:10] <Guest269> http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-9.04-ispconfig-3-p3
[13:10] <rd1381> and find the name of package and install it in ur package manager
[13:10] <Guest269> i messed that up, and cant get in via putty anymore
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Guest269:  you may need to get to the machine locally and fix the  Nic settings.
[13:11] <Takinator> anything in syslog ?
[13:11] <dreamvirus> Hello! I have a question...Are there motherboards that support two or more CPU chips on 1 motherboard?
[13:11] <Guest269> ive tryed, but im new to this and cant get it working
[13:11] <nic1> that ftp does not have the package, i need
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> !ot | dreamvirus
[13:12] <rd1381> yes it does but as i said use ubunutu package search instead
[13:12] <dreamvirus> ok
[13:12] <myeggo> hello, this is my logrotate configuration: http://pastebin.com/m7020dffa - but it still stores the log weekly, someone could give me a link or any idea about how to make it working? thanks in advance
[13:12] <rd1381> it foinds the package name for u and u can install it in ur ubuntu
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> Guest269:  get to the machine, boot it up. log in.. edit the  /etc/network/interfaces with the proper settings. .or leave it at dhcp
[13:13] <Guest269> but i need an ip for cpanel
[13:14] <sobersabre> hi is 9.10 going to be LTS or non LTS ?
[13:14] <C-S-B> non lts
[13:14] <rd1381> nic1: like for the 5th package ubuntu search returns http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libxcb-property1-dev
[13:14] <C-S-B> 10.04 = lts
[13:14] <sobersabre> when is the next LTS?
[13:14] <myeggo> why everyone ignoring me whole morning :/
[13:14] <nic1> the package i like to use is not there in dev..i mean search page you have given
[13:14] <sobersabre> 10.04 ?
[13:14] <slacker_nl> sobersabre: non-lts, 10.04 is going to be lts
[13:14] <sobersabre> ok.
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> Guest269:  no idea what cpanel is..  one step at a time.. get it working.. figure how ti propery configure a static ip - if you need one.
[13:14] <sobersabre> thanks.
[13:14] <obiwan_> hi, please anyone got a macbook? i'm (insert bad word) with it cause i can't run aircrack-ng installed from repos. It's all because the broadcom card and its incompatible driver. I heard about the free b43 driver, but it won't work when i modprobe it, so i need your help :)
[13:14] <Pici> myeggo: Perhaps we don't know the answer to your question.  You can also try to ask in #ubuntu-server if you link.
[13:14] <Pici> myeggo: s/link/like/
[13:14] <slacker_nl> Guest269: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine
[13:14] <C-S-B> obiwan
[13:14] <myeggo> thanks Pici
[13:15] <C-S-B> obiwan_: you need the firmware files
[13:15] <sobersabre> obiwan_: can you be more specific ?
[13:15] <obiwan_> great! in the end somebody to talk about hehe
[13:15] <Guest269>  /etc/network/interfaces  i edited that and messed it up now dont no how to edit it again
[13:15] <obiwan_> i'll explain
[13:15] <Guest269> ?
[13:15] <sobersabre> there are several generations of macbook. there are those with nvidia graphics, and those "older".
[13:15] <obiwan_> i got a macbook, wtih a wifi interface and broadcom 4328 rev 02 chipset
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Guest269:  you MIGHT want to spend some time reading a few command line basics/tutorials/guides  you use a text editor such as nano/vi/vim/mcedit or any of a dozen others.
[13:16] <obiwan_> i'm trying to run aircrack suite, so i need to put it in monitor mode and all that
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Guest269:  how did you edit it befor?  You edit it the same way.
[13:16] <slacker_nl> myeggo: run logrotate with the debug and verbose options
[13:16] <slacker_nl> myeggo: that will tell you why something is rotated
[13:17] <rd1381> nic1: which pachage?
[13:17] <rd1381> package
[13:17] <sobersabre> obiwan_: I don't understand you. what does aitcrack have to do with macbook ?
[13:17] <rd1381> can u name it?
[13:17] <soulnet-4> vggbhm
[13:17] <Danielpk> Guys, what i need do for external connnection at mysql? I made one user with %, but still cant connect.
[13:17] <soulnet-4> nvnhmok]
[13:17] <obiwan_> but i can't in ubunt, either in slax, backtrack, and many other distros. In lspci i get "Unknown interface broadcom 4328 ..........."
[13:17] <soulnet-4> ////////////nhno
[13:17] <C-S-B> obiwan_: you need the firmware files in /lib/firmware in order to modprobe b43
[13:17] <slacker_nl> Guest269: see the link I posted, it has examples for static and dhcp configs
[13:18] <nic1> rd1381, it is i3-3.b
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Danielpk:  mysql server configs have settings to define what range of ip's and users, and so on can connect. check the config files/mysql dics.
[13:18] <sobersabre> obiwan_: do you have another USB nic ?
[13:18] <obiwan_> yeah csb, but i don't have b43, i have wl. Do you have a macbook with b43? does it work in monitor mode?
[13:18] <sobersabre> I mean wifi NIC.
[13:18] <obiwan_> nope sobersabre :/
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Danielpk:  perhaps a 'listen to'   setting in the config file.
[13:18] <C-S-B> wl drivers and b43 drivers both work for the broadcom chipsets
[13:18] <Danielpk> Dr_Willis i will check.
[13:18] <Danielpk> =)
[13:18] <rd1381> nic1: no i mean which of that dev packages menioned in their official guide
[13:18] <sobersabre> obiwan_: what does lspci say to you, again ?
[13:18] <C-S-B> obiwan_: b43 is the only one that will put the broadcomm into monitor
[13:19] <C-S-B> obiwan_: try b43
[13:19] <obiwan_> yeah, C-S-B , but wl is a new one, and monitor mode is not supported
[13:19] <obiwan_> yeah, but i read that b43 won't work with 4328 chipset, nor 4318 which is my mum's
[13:19] <C-S-B> obiwan_: wl works on my card and so does b43
[13:19] <myeggo> slacker_nl: thank you, it gave me a clue - syslog entry were duplicated, anyway, after deleted one of both, it says that old files will be removed, so i guess i only need add a parameter for avoid that
[13:20] <C-S-B> obiwan_: lspci | grep broad*
[13:20] <alazyworkaholic> I want to use a command line tool to deal with duplicate files. 10,000's of them. I want to press "2" every time I'm given a choice of which file to preserve, but that's not baked into the utility. Is there any way I can run the program & 'virtually press' 2 thousands of times?
[13:20] <obiwan_> wl in monitor mode C-S-B ? I'm using wl right now for wifi, but what i need is to set my if in monitor mode
[13:20] <rd1381> nic1: and the version of i3-wm in the ubuntu 9.04 it just one version older and newest version
[13:20] <obiwan_> brb hehe
[13:20] <C-S-B> obiwan_: monitor mode only with b43
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> alazyworkaholic:  'expect' is a tool to auto mate scripts
[13:20] <obiwan_> yeah that's what i meant
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> !info expect
[13:21] <C-S-B> obiwan_: so try the b43 module instead of wl
[13:21] <shrapx> hi can someone offer some advice about a crash im getting
[13:21] <C-S-B> what chipset do you have exactly
[13:21] <C-S-B> obiwan_: ^
[13:21] <obiwan_> but for what i read in the b43 developers web, it isn't still compatible with my 4328 chipset model in monitor mode, do you have the same i have? does it work? brb i'm prompting the lspci
[13:21] <erUSUL> alazyworkaholic: expect can be instructed to answer 2 to cli programs
[13:22] <erUSUL> !info expect
[13:22] <veggteppe> Anyone that can recommend a good "Linux for beginners" ebook ? - Appreciate any help :).
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> alazyworkaholic:  or check out the 'yes' command.   'yes 2 | thecommand' pipes 2 to it forever..
[13:22] <erUSUL> veggteppe: ubuntu pocket guide ?
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> !training
[13:22] <veggteppe> erUSUL: Something called that? gonna google it:) thanks.
[13:22] <erUSUL> veggteppe: yes is a free ebook
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> veggteppe:  theres also the gnome docs/help :)
[13:23] <veggteppe> erUSUL / Dr_Willis: Thanks guys:)
[13:23] <obiwan_> Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4328] (rev 03), kernel in use ssb and wl and driver wl that's what i get
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> veggteppe:  check out that del.ico.us web site and see what sites got training./ubuntu tags.
[13:23] <obiwan_> sry i mean, kernel modules in use ssb and wl, kernel driver wl
[13:24] <nic1> rd1381, dev packages menioned in their official guide ?? i dint get it clearly
[13:24] <veggteppe> Dr_Willis: Will do
[13:24] <nic1> xcb
[13:24] <alazyworkaholic> Dr_Willis: Ok, I'll install expect & read the man page. I'm a bit of a noob but I'll try to figure it out. re the yes command. Would it be something like: yes 2 | fdupes -rd ~/Photos ~/Pictures
[13:24] <C-S-B> obiwan_: i think you aren't going to have any luck getting it to work with monitor mode, I think all the wireless n cards don't work with that
[13:24] <C-S-B> I'll have a read
[13:24] <obiwan_> could you tell me which if chipset you have C-S-B ?
[13:24] <C-S-B> 4311
[13:24] <obiwan_> but i don't care it doesn't work in n mode, i'm done if it works in a/b/g
[13:24] <Guest9783> How can i install pgAdmin on ubuntu?
[13:25] <nic1> rs1381, are you there?
[13:25] <obiwan_> no router still uses n , so i don't need my card works in that mode
[13:25] <Faithful> Hey, can someone help... I have a linux box I'm shelled into but it seems that / is not mounted, well when I look at what's mounted I don't see / mounted and when I run df on the partition / is on I gives me tmpfs mounted on /dev
[13:25] <obiwan_> 4311, lucky man hehe
[13:25] <nic1> can you explain me a bit more simpler, i am kind of dimlight..new to all this stuff
[13:25] <C-S-B> obiwan_: not lucky, I put it in there! :P
[13:25] <obiwan_> 1 question, C-S-B , did you use fwcutter? i read online about extracting firmware ,
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> alazyworkaholic:  try it and see  - thats seems to be about righjt.
[13:26] <rd1381> nic1: the page i mentioned earlier that was a guide how to build the latest version of ur app on ubuntu ,it had a list of deb files and their urls .but u said they were for debial and for amd64 so i said u can use ubuntu package search to download the coresponding packages
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> alazyworkaholic:  there are other dupelicate finder programs out there also.
[13:26] <obiwan_> heheh :P
[13:26] <C-S-B> obiwan_: yes ?i used fwcutter, but there are files on the net
[13:26] <lab> this procedure is a disaster :  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  . is there anything better for installing these driver on 9.0.4 ?
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> alazyworkaholic:  IF 'fdupes' accepts that sort of input.. it might not.
[13:27] <nic1> rd1381, when i started following that page, the first statement git itself gave me segfault, so could not progress in my previous attempt
[13:27] <lab> I strongly suggest to remove it from ubuntu's site. I only have damaged my installation
[13:27] <obiwan_> C-S-B, i got two options, one is fwcutter +b43, the other is ndiswrapper+the bootcamp windows wifi driver developed by apple
[13:27] <Guest269> does anybody have a guide to edit the eth0 so i no how i can set it up for my server please?
[13:27] <C-S-B> obiwan_: you need the firmware in lib/firmware in order to modprobe b43. easy though, install fwcutter from the ubuntu repo and it handles all that
[13:27] <simon> Quick question, as a server newbie, but having used nad installed Ubuntu on a home PC several times over the past 18 months, do I need to buy 9-5 support, or will I be able to figure it all out with online forums like I did with the PC Ubuntu?
[13:27] <C-S-B> obiwan_:  ndiswrapper is teh suck imo
[13:27] <Takinator> nicl : anything in syslog related to your segfault?
[13:28] <obiwan_> ok C-S-B ! then we're getting close hehe
[13:28] <Guest269> i want to run a few websites from my home pc, but can get the ip configs to work please may somebody help me?
[13:28] <rd1381> nic1: look . for installing from source of a program u need some libraries installed as well that the compiler uses for building ur app. they usually have a dev suffix at the end
[13:28] <pikustan> hello
[13:28] <simon> hello
[13:29] <jrib> simon: that really depends on you and what exactly you want to use the server for
[13:29] <obiwan_> a few more questions hehe, i can actually load b43 but it won't detect my wifi nic, will it when i put the fwcutter working?
[13:29] <pikustan> looking for private chat help - xp doesnt start up
[13:29] <jrib> pikustan: /join ##windows
[13:29] <C-S-B> obiwan_: you'll need to rmmod your wl driver
[13:29] <simon> jrib: just a file server and DHCP
[13:29] <obiwan_> yeah sure
[13:29] <obiwan_> just wl?
[13:29] <obiwan_> ssb, or any other else?
[13:29] <jrib> simon: enjoy: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[13:29] <nic1> rd1381, i jusst started following that link, first command is git so running it..i guess that may fail..
[13:29] <rd1381> nic1: so u have to find the coresponding dev packages in ur ubuntu synaptic pack manager.( do u know how too use synaptic??)
[13:29] <simon> file server for windows apps that run on own PCs such as SAGE
[13:29] <Guest269> does anybody do private chat? so aybe somebody could help me with these ip cofigs please?
[13:29] <nic1> so you say i need to get all the other first?
[13:29] <Guest269> maybe*
[13:30] <Takinator> nicl ?
[13:30] <lab> It's really annoying that... a help should be published in the official site only if it's a valid help. this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI is a real disaster. it only corrupts intallations
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[13:30] <nic1> rd1381, ya i know how to use synaptic
[13:30] <jrib> !pm | Guest269
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> Guest269:  your isp supplies you with  a static ip?
[13:30] <Guest269> yes
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[13:30] <Dr_Willis> Then.. i thought when  the pc sends a DHCP request it SHOULD always get the same ip then. No need to change anything
[13:31] <simon> thanks jrib
[13:31] <Guest269> i have a static ip, and i want to install a control panel called cpanel, but i have to get the ips sorted out for cpanel to work
[13:31] <nic1> rd1381, thank you, i am working on ubuntu from past 3 months, the first linux box anyways
[13:31] <nic1> so, i must know synaptic atleast.
 git gives an error? segmentation? that one off the worst error in linux. because its hard to diagnose the error source
[13:31] <nic1> still running
[13:31] <Guest269> but it keeps brining back an ip like 192.168.1.2 and its trying to say that this is my ip
[13:32] <rd1381> nic1: where do u run git command?
[13:32] <Guest269> i cant run websites from that ip, only i would see it lol
[13:32] <nic1> rd1381, ya i knew that from small c programs that segfault is hectic to diagnise
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> Guest269:  thats the local lan ip. Not the wan ip.  perhapss you can jsut set cpanel settings to use the other ip.
[13:32] <nic1> in my command prompt
[13:32] <nic1> i think there are some errors in git
[13:32] <thomas_sch> if i wanna install xen on my pc i just have to install xen-utils do i?
[13:33] <Guest269> it only pics up 192.168.1.2 it doesnt pick up any other ips, thats why im trying to edit it so it would pick up my inet ip
[13:33] <Guest269> ?
[13:33] <rd1381> nic1: i mean where is it running from? maybe u dont have access to that part of hardrive ( but ithis is a small chance of occuring)
[13:33] <nic1> rd1381, shall i tell you the first errror?
[13:33] <rd1381> yes
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> Guest269:  i think you need to check cpanel configs.. not the  network ip configs.
[13:33] <nic1> i dint get you on that harddrive matter
[13:34] <Guest269> so i use a dhcp " think thats right"
[13:34] <Guest269> and in a minute ill show you exactly what i mean
[13:34] <aquarius> I have Thunderbird set to play the "Default system sound for new mail" when new mail arrives, which it turns out is a very jarring unpleasant beep. How can i find what that default system sound is, and change it?
[13:34] <Guest269> says that 192.168.1.2 is my main server ip adress
[13:34] <rd1381> nic1:nevermind
[13:34] <rd1381> nic1can u tell me the error?
[13:35] <nic1> error: Failed connect to code.stapelberg.de:80; Unknown error 2 (curl_result = 7, http_code = 0, shal = some hex numbe
[13:35] <Guest269> i need to change 192.168.1.2 to 82.32.204.62
[13:35] <rd1381> nic1 : oh so its a network error
[13:35] <nic1> ya ths is the first error
[13:35] <nic1> is it? so how can i try fixing it?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> Guest269:  and you have a whole lan? this pc has 2 network cards? or whate exactly?
[13:36] <Guest269> Dr_Willis
[13:36] <rd1381> nic1: when it says failed to connect , what do u get from that? it means it cant reach the desired website
[13:36] <Guest269> please may i pm?
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> Guest269:  not really. I may have to leave at any time. I think you might be confused about some network basics however.
[13:37]  * Dr_Willis is babysitting
[13:37] <rd1381> nic1: can u try this? git clone git://code.stapelberg.de/git/i3
[13:37] <nic1> rd1381, ya that sounds obvious
[13:37] <nic1> ya sure, wil try right now
[13:37] <rd1381> this replaces htpp with git
[13:37] <Guest269> ok
[13:37] <nic1> shall i pastebin the whole results of previous git?
[13:37] <n8tuser> Guest269-> do you have a network layout drawing?  can you post that in pastebin?
[13:38] <Guest269> yea
[13:38] <Guest269> http://paste.ubuntu.com/292339/
[13:38] <rd1381> nic1: no
[13:39] <rd1381> just test the new one and report back
[13:39] <nic1> ok. i am running the command suggested
[13:39] <Guest269> i need to change the inet addr to my internet ip
[13:39] <n8tuser> Guest269-> also kindly change your nick to something unique and not start with Guest, its hard to tab complete your nick.
[13:39] <Guest269> ?
[13:39] <Guest269> ok
[13:39] <nic1> it tells, fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[13:39] <kLoNeD> there we go
[13:39] <obiwan_> hey C-S-B  you still there?
[13:39] <coz_> nic1,  yeah same response here   so its not on your end
[13:39] <nic1> rd1381, did you use i3 wm anytime?
[13:39] <rd1381> nic1 sigh
[13:39] <C-S-B> obiwan_: yup
[13:40] <rd1381> no
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  and your pc is connected to a ROUTER? or direct to the internet?
[13:40] <C-S-B> obiwan_: just
[13:40] <obiwan_> nice :)
[13:40] <rd1381> nic1: no never heard of it
[13:40] <nic1> oh..
[13:40] <kLoNeD> through a router @ Dr_Willis
[13:40] <rd1381> nic1 i just use kde and i am happy
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  thats your issue then.
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  the ip of the pc is correct.. Your ROUTER has the other ip.
[13:40] <nic1> it's not for my use, but for my work..
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  you have to forwared the traffic to the pc
[13:41] <kLoNeD> Dr_Willis i need to make inet addr:192.168.1.3 look like inet addr:82.32.204.62
[13:41] <kLoNeD> ?
[13:41] <obiwan_> hey i got a question, for b43 to work, do i need to extract the firmware from the b43 driver right? can i extract it from the wl? in this web they work with b43 but they get it from wl-apsta.o please take a look http://www.linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  You need to forward traffic  to the pc  via the proper settings in the router configs
[13:41] <kLoNeD> because cpanel keeps picking up 192.168.1.3 when it should look like 82.32.204.62
[13:41] <nic1> rd1381, i am running git again..
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  No it should NOT look like 82.xxxxxxxx
[13:41] <rd1381> nic1:oh.why for work? is not commercial .its not minimal.its not popular :)
[13:42] <kLoNeD> ok, so how do i get cpanel to pick up my 82.32.204.62 ip
[13:42] <kLoNeD> ?
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  the connections to your router need to get forwared to that 192.168.x.x ip
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> as ive said 5 times now.
[13:42] <nic1> boss told me to use, so just trying
[13:42] <kLoNeD> i have it all forwaded
[13:42] <kLoNeD> it all setup
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  then you missed somthing or it would be working.
[13:42] <nic1> rd1381, do you have any idea about any tiling wm?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  you  could set up the pc on a 'dmz'  on the router also.. that puts the pc totally open to the internet.
[13:43] <kLoNeD> i dont see what ive missed tho, i just put cd in installed ubuntu and then pc restarted thats all ive dne
[13:43] <coz_> nic1,   xmonad  is a tiling window manager
[13:43] <nic1> how about awesome wm then? i am asked to use one of awesome or i3
[13:43] <baker`> hello, does anyone know how much RAM ubuntu uses in comparison to say.. vista?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  so you did not go to the router configs pages and set up port forwarding then?
[13:43] <rd1381> nic1: oh its tiling now , isit? no as i said i am a kde user
[13:43] <kLoNeD> i have done this via routerlogin.net
[13:43] <coz_> nic1,  there is also scrotwm
[13:44] <nic1> coz_, i started using xmonad, it's too easy to install, but difficult to make it up i think..tried for few days but couldn't make it up and working fully
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> No idea what routerlogin.net is.. I use my routers  ip ofhttp:// 192.168.1.1
[13:44] <nic1> scrotwm? i dint hear of this
[13:44] <kLoNeD> if i gave you my internet ip, username and password, you would be able to connect to my machine
[13:44] <coz_> nic1,   ah  ok   I know there is an irc channel for that and a fellow named  amphi  I would talk to if you want to try again
[13:44] <baker`>  hello, does anyone know how much RAM ubuntu uses in comparison to say.. vista?
[13:44] <nic1> kde is kewl desktop...
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  it would connect to the router.. and the router would forward traffic based on the port's to  whatever machine they are set to be forwareded to.
[13:45] <coz_> nic1,  kde is kool  but it is system resource intensive at this stage
[13:45] <n8tuser> kLoNeD-> usually the router in front is your your gateway and same address for web configurable settings, so to find out your gateway, type   netstat -n in a terminal
[13:45] <nic1> coz_, right now i am running i3, i wil definitely try out xmonad, if you can guide me a bit
[13:45] <C-S-B> obiwan_: so having luck with b43?
[13:45] <n8tuser> kLoNeD-> rather netstat -ran
[13:45] <nic1> coz_, oh..ok. i wasn't aware that it's sys resource intensive
[13:45] <coz_> nic1,  I am not the one to gude you:)... amphi tried to get me to switch to that  instead of compiz but I cant :)
[13:46] <nic1> so i think i can do tiling even with compiz right?
[13:46] <coz_> nic1,   there is no issue in trying kde of course...
[13:46] <kLoNeD> n8tuser http://paste.ubuntu.com/292342/
[13:46] <nic1> but i need the light weight wm
[13:46] <kLoNeD> that is my reply
[13:46] <Subdolus> why is rsync so slow
[13:46] <n8tuser> baker`->  ubuntu can run in a small ram memory like 256Meg
[13:47] <Subdolus> does it have to build the file list every time I run it?
[13:47] <nic1> coz_, my application demands a light weight window manager
[13:47] <Subdolus> it's been going for about 6 hours
[13:47] <kLoNeD> what do i do now?
[13:47] <coz_> nic1,   well some tiling can be done  maybe with the grid plugin and others  but not as well as  the tiling window mangers
[13:47] <n8tuser> kLoNeD-> on your browser type  192.168.1.1 and configure your router accordingly
[13:48] <rd1381> nic1: gnome is not that resource hungry
[13:48] <coz_> nic1,  however for xmonad  just join the #xmonad channel for help... I dont see amphi there right now  but he may show up
[13:48] <obiwan_> C-S-B,  heeh i was waiting for you to answer  but i didn't put your name so i guess you lost it hehe . Anyway my question is, does the firmware have anything to do with the driver? i can't find the b43 driver, but i have the wl one, can i extract the firmware for it to use it with b43 or that won't work?
[13:49] <kLoNeD> n8tuser i believe i have done so http://paste.ubuntu.com/292343/
[13:49] <kLoNeD> this is all the forwarded ports i have made to my machine http://paste.ubuntu.com/292343/
[13:49] <C-S-B> b43 is probably already on your system
[13:49] <C-S-B> obiwan_: ^
[13:50] <n8tuser> kLoNeD-> what the heck is that? please configure your router correctly,  whats the brand and model of the soho router?
[13:50] <C-S-B> obiwan_: you just need the firmware files to make it work
[13:50] <C-S-B> obiwan_: sudo apt-get fwcutter
[13:50] <kLoNeD> its not configured properly
[13:50] <kLoNeD> ill just find out
[13:50] <veggteppe> Anyone that can tell me how to navigate to sertain application's ? were it is in the filesystem i mean.
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  i dont see the PORT that cpanel uses mentioned in your  'list of things forwarded to 192.168.1.3'
[13:50] <obiwan_> yeah it is  cause modprobe b43 works and it gets shown in lsmod, but 43-fwcutter --list is supposed to get me a list of available modules, and b43 is not in that list, it's just wl things
[13:50] <obiwan_> C-S-B,
[13:51] <C-S-B> obiwan_: sudo apt-get b43-fwcutter
[13:51] <obiwan_> it's already installed hehe
[13:51] <C-S-B> obiwan_: you need to rmmod wl
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Cpanel uses port 2083 with https and port 2082 with http.  ( from the docs i just read)
[13:51] <kLoNeD> netgear router wgr614v9
[13:51] <jrib> veggteppe: why?
[13:52] <tonyyarusso> veggteppe: what are you actually trying to do?
[13:52] <kLoNeD> what else do i have to configure in my router?
[13:52] <jrib> !away > watcher|away
[13:52] <n8tuser> kLoNeD-> look for DMZ
[13:52] <n8tuser> !who | kLoNeD
[13:52] <veggteppe> tonyyarusso: Just gonna add something to startup applications, and for that i need the complete line to were the applications i want to startup is located:P. wich i am trying to find out xD
[13:53] <soreau> ! work | coz_
[13:53] <obiwan_> i got this driver: b43		module: wl_apsta.o,  b43		wl_apsta_mimo.o and b43		wl_apsta_mimo.o, each one with a microcode and a ID FW10, FW11, FW11, FW13 C-S-B
[13:53] <kLoNeD> n8tuser DMZ in my router?
[13:53] <jrib> veggteppe: you don't really need the absolute path, you can just use "gedit" to start gedit for example, but most of them reside in /usr/bin
[13:53] <tonyyarusso> veggteppe: ah, ok.  The easiest way I find is 'dpkg -L packagename | grep bin'.
[13:53] <n8tuser> kLoNeD-> yep
[13:53] <obiwan_> mimo is N i think
[13:53] <veggteppe> jrib - tonyyarusso: THanks:)
[13:53] <tonyyarusso> veggteppe: also, what jrib said should be correct
[13:53] <obiwan_> it's the multiple input multiple output standard
[13:53] <kLoNeD> n8tuser any idea where it would be?
[13:54] <C-S-B> obiwan_: ok, and you should have a b43 folder in /lib/firmware
[13:54] <C-S-B> ?
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  i normally download the user manuals (in pdf) and use the search feature  to find stuff like that.
[13:55] <C-S-B> obiwan_: you need to rmmod wl && modprobe b43
[13:55] <veggteppe> Tonyarusso: Loved your way tbh, like to get more "into" ubuntu, by learning the commands, so keep em commin xD
[13:55] <n8tuser> kLoNeD -> you may need to learn how to use google.. but here is one i found http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101145.asp
[13:55] <obiwan_> ok i'll try hehe
[13:55] <obiwan_> i i get disconnected, pray for my soul haha
[13:55] <kLoNeD> n8tuser Dr_Willis i found the DMZ
[13:55] <kLoNeD> Default DMZ Server and then it asks for an ip adress
[13:55] <kLoNeD> address*
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  so you put that box in the DMZ and it will be totally open to the internet.. that can be big time security  problems.
[13:56] <C-S-B> dmz is scary :O
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  so you may want to learn how to use firewalls, and logging, and other stuff...
[13:56] <C-S-B> make it stop :'(
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  or learn to properly forward the ACTUAL PORTS that cpanel uses instead...
[13:56] <obiwan_> ok , brb C-S-B , let's hope ;(
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD: Cpanel uses port 2083 with https and port 2082 with http.  ( from the docs i just read)
[13:57] <kLoNeD> yes, cpanel users 2086 2087 2082 and 2083 Dr_Willis
[13:57] <kLoNeD> ill do that once i have this configured
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  my router lets me forward a range to other machines.. that makes it easier.
[13:57] <deepak> hi
[13:57] <phoe6> Is it a fair assumption that all fonts in my default ubuntu install are re-distributable under a FSF or OSS licence?
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> phoe6:  i whoudl think so.
[13:58] <deepak> hii
[13:58] <nic1> rd1381, coz_, my git command worked without errors
[13:58] <deepak> evry one
[13:58] <jrib> phoe6: I would check the source package to be sure.
[13:58] <phoe6> the fonts directory does not have LICENSE file. that's why.
[13:58] <coz_> nic1,  mm let me try it here
[13:58] <phoe6> oh okay.
[13:58] <phoe6> yes deepak
[13:58] <jrib> !source > phoe6
[13:59] <coz_> nic1,  still not workin ghere :)
[13:59] <nic1> i think mine was also not working
[13:59] <phoe6> jrib: thanks!
[13:59] <kLoNeD> Dr_Willis ill read this guide about it and see what it says
[13:59] <nic1> one thing i can't understand now, is it wise to opt for i3?
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  reading docs is good. :)
[13:59] <nic1> i just need one highly customizable, less sys resource hungry tiling wm
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  at least now you are heading the right direction.
[14:00] <coz_> nic1,  yeah I cant help with that one... I have to stick to compiz :)
[14:00] <kLoNeD> Dr_Willis thank you
[14:00] <nic1> but compiz is a system resource intensiv right?
[14:00] <coz_> nic1,  no not really
[14:01] <coz_> nic1,  it is fairly gentle on the system and I have a mid range  older system right now
[14:03] <Guest9783> rvsjoen: how can I add users in pgadmin so that tI can login to the spesific database?
[14:04] <johntron> what can I use to do packet prioritization on ubuntu? I've tried searching and can't find anything
[14:04] <kLoNeD> right, i read that guide you gave me, but nothing there does it say about DMZ
[14:05] <coz_> johntron,   here is one link   http://www.instructables.com/id/E3AW18NRPEEPLK0FZH/
[14:05] <johntron> lol, i wrote that
[14:05] <iceroot> how to rename the string "umc" with "umc-school" in all files which start with umc? after that the files should look like umc-school-rest-of-the-name.png
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  it wouldbe best to fprwared only the ports you need forwarded
[14:05] <johntron> i dunno of an alternative for altq though
[14:05] <coz_> johntron,   lol oh sorry
[14:06] <Guest084> hey its kloned i got d/c
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> kLoNeD:  it wouldbe best to fprwared only the ports you need forwarded
[14:06] <kLoNeD1> ok thank you
[14:06] <Enissay> what's the best C++ IDE for gnome?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> Enissay: there is no best anything at all in life
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> Enissay: best is an opinion so is never concrete
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> !ide | Enissay
[14:07] <Enissay> yea, i'm asking for people's opinions so i can choose myself :)
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> !best | Enissay
[14:08] <lulu> ff
[14:08] <coz_> Enissay,  anjuta?  g++
[14:08] <gravityreloaded> hello I need some advice please
[14:08] <Enissay> Wow
[14:08] <johntron> Enissay: eclipse is pretty popular in general, but i've never done c++ with it
[14:08] <mnaines> !ask | gravityreloaded:
[14:08] <coz_> gravityreloaded,  what is the issue?
[14:08] <gravityreloaded> I need to restore an XML file to a hard drive
[14:09] <gravityreloaded> my windows is dead :p
[14:09] <gravityreloaded> I have a 50Gb backup on XML but driveimage won't let me restore because I'm using the drive
[14:09] <Enissay> JohnD23, i saw that netbeans is good too, but isnt for java anly?
[14:09] <gravityreloaded> *the file is on an external drive of course
[14:10] <Enissay> *JohnD23, i saw that netbeans is good too, but isnt it  for java only?
[14:10] <chippy> hi, using UNR & laptop keyboard and 9.04 with external keyboard. How can I get the menu key (next to r-ctrl & r-alt) to do as advertised, open context menu (like shift-f10) ?
[14:10] <johntron> Enissay: netbeans is java only, but eclipse can do both
[14:11] <johntron> (assuming you meant that comment for me)
[14:11] <qnet08> HALO..
[14:11] <gravityreloaded> I used ImageDrive XML to make hard drive clone but can't find equivalent software for Ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[14:11] <NantoRokuseiken> hi. i installed kde, i didnt like it so i removed it.i have several problems right now. how can i bring my machine to a previous state?
[14:11] <gravityreloaded> !xml
[14:11] <bazhang> NantoRokuseiken, removed how
[14:12] <NantoRokuseiken> bazhang: using synaptic
[14:12] <bazhang> NantoRokuseiken, which packages
[14:12] <gravityreloaded> anyone here understand XML files?
, coz_ , <ActionParsnip>, thanks guys :)
[14:12] <gui____> hi
[14:12] <coz_> Enissay,  no problem
[14:12] <coz_> gravityreloaded,  what is it you need to do with that xml file again?
[14:13] <NantoRokuseiken> bazhang: kde, kde-core and few i cant remember
[14:13] <gravityreloaded> I need to restore XML, on external drive, to my C: drive. I'm now running Ubuntu from D: drive
[14:13] <rafael> Hi, although my HISTSIZE and HISTFILESIZE are both set to 1000000000 (I modified bashrc). I only have a 500 length history. anyone knows why
[14:13] <bazhang> NantoRokuseiken, you wish for pure gnome?
[14:13] <NantoRokuseiken> bazhang: it doesnt load the appled on the upper right of screen and when i press reload it cant reload it
[14:14] <coz_> gravityreloaded,  does this file just need to be copied to the C drive?
[14:14] <NantoRokuseiken> bazhang: yes as ubuntu comes without any other crap
[14:14] <joaopinto> rafael, have you checked that they are both defined on the "env" ?
[14:14] <jrib> rafael: you need to restart your shell for the setting to take effect
[14:14] <bazhang> !puregnome | NantoRokuseiken
[14:14] <NantoRokuseiken> bazhang: and gdm running because i get a welcome screen to login although i was autologin before
[14:14] <rafael> joaopinto: I echo them and I get 100000 and I have also restarted..
[14:14] <gravityreloaded> no, I want to restore the contents, it has a full Windows installation on it, should restore drive to the time when I backed up
[14:14] <nic1> guys, i will use awesome wm
[14:14] <penthief> I have a cron script job which is a symlink in /etc/cron.hourly and it is not being run. Any ideas why?
[14:15] <nic1> it's there in synaptic, and i insstalled it too
[14:15] <nic1> but after installing, it hangs
[14:15] <gravityreloaded> coz, I re-installed windows but can't restore from file because I'm using C: drive...
[14:15] <coz_> gravityreloaded,   so this is a cloned image of your windows installation?
[14:15] <gravityreloaded> yes
[14:15] <rafael> echo $HISTSIZE and echo $HISTFILESIZE both gives me the value I wan[ t after I have restarted. Nevertheless, my history still go only up to 500 strings...
[14:15] <NantoRokuseiken> bazhang: kde so crappy. how did kde become like tis
[14:15] <coz_> gravityreloaded,  and how did you first create this clone?
[14:15] <simon_1> hi there is there a command i can type to check if my ubuntu is 64bit or 32bit cus its bit buggy think i may have got the wrong version when i installed
[14:15] <gravityreloaded> I used ImageDrive XML
[14:16] <coz_> gravityreloaded,  and doesnt that application have  options for restoring to the drive?
[14:16] <rafael> I have added the export lines to .bashrc in my home fodler
[14:16] <rafael> simon_1: uname -a
[14:16] <jrib> rafael: did you exit bash after running more than 500 commands and then check the file?
[14:16] <orkyahaalhai> how to disable sudo ????
[14:16] <gravityreloaded> coz, yes, but because I'm running Windows from same drive I can't restore to it. I hoped to do that from Ubuntu with equivalent program
[14:17] <coz_> orkyahaalhai,  disable it? why?
[14:17] <joaopinto> !sudo | orkyahaalhai
[14:17] <gravityreloaded> coz, Ubuntu is on drive D:
[14:17] <simon_1> Linux ubuntu 2.6.28-15-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 9 10:49:34 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:17] <simon_1> is that 64 bit
[14:17] <chippy> hi, using UNR & laptop keyboard and 9.04 with external keyboard. How can I get the menu key (next to r-ctrl & r-alt) to do as advertised, open context menu (like shift-f10) ? Is this a bug?
[14:17] <elad`> I'm playing a video, and I see tearing - a line separating different parts of the screen that get updated at different times. How do I fix that?
[14:17] <penthief> rafael: Just an idea, but maybe those variables are checked before they are exported by your .bashrc
[14:17] <rafael> jrib: I just closed my terminal and reopened it. I have 507 commands. I think it resets to 500 when I reset my system
[14:17] <rafael> penthief: I am thinking that also
[14:17] <jrib> rafael: you checked what your HISTFILE was set to?
[14:18] <coz_> gravityreloaded,  then I am not sure what to tell you...I am not familiar with that cloneing software
[14:18] <gravityreloaded> I really do like Ubuntu but there are some things that can only be done with Windows
[14:18] <simon_1> rafael is that 64bit i post the result there a few secs ago
[14:18] <jrib> gravityreloaded: like?
[14:18] <joaopinto> gravityreloaded, which is not the case for what you are describing, you can easily backup a partition with partimage
[14:18] <obiwan_> Hi i'm back with bad news C-S-B_ :/
[14:18] <gravityreloaded> coz, that software says it's compatible with other cloning software, i.e., the XML file I created
[14:19] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, an external hard drive i was using till yesterday now its not recognized anymore, it doesnt see it at all, what happened?
[14:19] <rafael> simon1? no
[14:19] <joaopinto> gravityreloaded, that software maybe compatible with other COMERCIAL software, which doesn't turn into an open standard
[14:19] <gravityreloaded> joaopinto I HAVE the backup, I need to restore it
[14:19] <bobbob1016> For some reason, my password isn't being accepted when I try to launch synaptic via gui, but it works fine if I launch it via commandline.  Any ideas?
[14:19] <simon_1> rafael is it def. 32bit so if thats my kernel version
[14:19] <rafael> simon_1: You should have got x86_64 not i686 for 64 bits
[14:20] <rafael> jrib: echo $HISTSIZE gioves me 100000000
[14:20] <simon_1> ah right
[14:20] <C-S-B_> obiwan_: well? is it on fire?
[14:20] <joaopinto> gravityreloaded, so just ask the software authors to port their software to linux, please do not attribute the fault to Ubuntu :)
[14:20] <simon_1> cheers mate
[14:20] <gravityreloaded> jrib, I can't for example do djing decently on Linux system. I use virtual DJ
[14:20] <elad`> I'm playing a video, and I see tearing - a line separating different parts of the screen that get updated at different times. How do I fix that?
[14:20] <jrib> rafael: file, not size
[14:21] <simon_1> cant get skype to work on 9.04 thought it might be because it was 64bit but not the case
[14:21] <rafael> simon_1? Yes, your kernel defines your architecture
[14:21] <Keiffer> how can i check the HDD for bad sectors?
[14:21] <jrib> rafael: also, did you try a smaller number like 1000 to see if it makes a difference?
[14:21] <joaopinto> simon, skype works fine on 64bits using the 32bits deb
[14:21] <Keiffer> I get this error when playing some .avi files in Mplayer. An Error Occured. Could not read from source
[14:21] <AncientSocrates> hi when ubuntu 9.10 boots up it says before the [0K]s appear. acpi resource error, acpi conflicts with acpi rprg
[14:21] <AncientSocrates> something like this
[14:21] <rafael> jrib: also echo $HISTFILESIZE also gives me 10000000000
[14:21] <AncientSocrates> what should i do
[14:21] <rafael> jrib: Gonna try it
[14:21] <gravityreloaded> So, Ubuntu is incapable to restore backup from XML file as far as anyone knows,,, ???
[14:21] <mnaines> gravityreloaded: Have you tried Mixxx and DJPlay?
[14:21] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for karmic AncientSocrates
[14:21] <jrib> rafael: file, not filesize
[14:21] <simon_1> not on my fresh instal of 32bit 9.04
[14:21] <rafael> jrib: How can I check that
[14:21] <penthief> rafael: Just had a look: Try at the top of .profile instead of bashrc
[14:22] <rafael> penthief: Ok, gonna do that
[14:22] <simon_1> freezes my entire system
[14:22] <jrib> rafael: the same way you are checking the others, echo $HISTFILE
[14:22] <gravityreloaded> mnaines, they don't have anywhere near the features I need and they are very buggy
[14:22] <joaopinto> gravityreloaded, let me repeat, there is no standard format for disk images using XML, your question is nout about ubuntu, is how to restore XML files geneated by a specific disk cloning app
[14:22] <Xcell> exactly
[14:22] <simon_1> will try again in 2 weeks i guess with 9.10 maybe skype will work with that for me
[14:22] <rafael> jrib: echo $HISTFILE returns me the path to my file, home/.bash_history
[14:23] <jrib> rafael: k
[14:23] <jrib> rafael: you're paraphrasing I hope?  That wasn't the actual path it gave?
[14:23] <joaopinto> gravityreloaded, coudl you elaborate on that ? which bug and which missing feature is blocking use from using partimage ?
[14:23] <rafael> penthief: I have no .profile file in my home fodler. Should I create one?
[14:23] <penthief> Yeah, I have one
[14:24] <gravityreloaded> joaopinto can partimage recover an XML file?
[14:24] <simon_1> is 9.10 going to be a better long term supported version or whatever you call those versions??
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> !lts
[14:24] <gravityreloaded> *from an XML file
[14:24] <jrib> gravityreloaded: why don't you just use the software you used to backup to recover?
[14:24] <simon_1> ah right
[14:24] <penthief> rafael: See the INVOCATION section of man bash for more info. I must admit I have not read it myself.
[14:24] <gravityreloaded> because I'm logged into Windows which is on the same drive I want to restore to...
[14:25] <joaopinto> gravityreloaded, no, it does not support non standard images generated by random clone imaging products
[14:25] <Faithful> Hey, can someone help... I have a linux box I'm shelled into but it seems that / is not mounted, well when I look at what's mounted I don't see / mounted and when I run df on the partition / is on I gives me tmpfs mounted on /dev
[14:25] <rafael> jrib: Yes, it gave me /home/rc/.bash_history
[14:25] <jrib> rafael: k
[14:25] <AncientSocrates> acpi conflicts with acpi smrg during boot
[14:25] <AncientSocrates> what should i do?
[14:25] <sipior> gravityreloaded: xml is a file format. it'd be like asking "can ubuntu recover from an html file?" what did you use to write the backup file?
[14:25] <bazhang> AncientSocrates, this is not the karmic support channel ; #ubuntu+1
[14:25] <rafael> jrib: Lets see if a smaller value will solve this. Also gonna try to add the exports to .profile as pent suggested
[14:25] <inversio1s> gravityreloaded: if you need to restore driveimage xml image you might want to do it from a windows live cd, such as bartPE or hirens boot cd which inculdes drive image xml i believe
[14:25] <simon_1> is it possible to back up the terminal history when upgrading
[14:25] <gravityreloaded> I suppose the only chance is to install Windows on different hard drive, and restore to my drive C: from there
[14:25] <rafael> jrib: Thanks...
[14:25] <rafael> penthief: thanks
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> simon_1:  the bash history is saved in .history
[14:26] <nic1> hey i am trying to get source using apt-get source, how serious is the error or warning whatever, can't check public signature
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> simon_1:  i think.. let me check. :)
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> simon_1:  or use history > myhistory.txt
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> aha its .bash_history
[14:26] <simon_1> cheers dr_willis so just copy and replace on new version
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> simon_1:   the history file is normally not worth worrying about. :)
[14:27] <sipior> nic1: depends on how concerned you are about establishing the authenticity of the software you want to install.
[14:27] <chippy> is it possible to reset keyboard shortcuts in 9.04 ?
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> simon_1:  since each shell can change it.. it can be in quiet a state of flux
[14:27] <gravityreloaded> I hoped it would be more simple, since I am running Ubuntu on my 2nd hard drive, It would be a shame to uninstall that to install windows, the restore, then re-install ubuntu. It a lot of work, as you all can see
[14:27] <gravityreloaded> the must be an easier way
[14:27] <gravityreloaded> *there
[14:27] <simon_1> handy to have all the commands i use on file
[14:28] <sipior> gravityreloaded: you don't have access to a second windows machine, i imagine
[14:28] <gravityreloaded> sipior, no
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> simon_1:  that file can get overwritten at any time.
[14:28] <jrib> gravityreloaded: if you're using some proprietary backup system without a linux version, then you can't hope to restore on linux.  You should checkout partimage...
[14:29] <sipior> gravityreloaded: you can try running windows in virtualbox, kvm or the like. unraveling the backup will be slow, but manageable.
[14:29] <simon_1> im sure a few people like me with bad memories like to keep the history somehow
[14:29] <nic1> in which path do i get the source code, when i do apt-get source?
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> simon_1:  if you have 2 terminals open and do different commands in each one.. then close each one.. which one save4s the history? :)
[14:29] <gravityreloaded> sipior, I could try that, thanks for suggestion
[14:29] <Pici> nic1: the current directory
[14:29] <penthief> rafael: I might do this unlimited history myself...
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> simon_1:  dont depend on anything in  the history 'staying' there
[14:30] <simon_1> lol i guess
[14:30] <simon_1> might make a txt file of the ones i use lots
[14:31] <porpoise> Hey, I want to move my /var directory to a different partition. Do I need to boot in a special mode to do this?
[14:31] <porpoise> or can I change my runlevel
[14:31] <iceroot> i have PC A and B. A is behind a firewall and can ssh to B. B cant ssh to A because of the firewall. But is it possible to use the ssh-connection from A-B so that B can access A?
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> simon_1:  in fact as each shell closes it writes to the .bash_history so whatever shell closes last gets 'saved'
[14:31] <penthief> It would be nice if there was a special tab-completion which used the history.
[14:32] <simon_1> is the version of ubuntu that installs inside windows exactly the same other than not being on its own actual partition
[14:32] <penthief> shopt -s histappend # append to the history file, don't overwrite it
[14:32] <madsj> hi; how can I get ubuntu to suspend when I close the lid on my notebook ? I use Openbox as a WM, and thus cannot rely on Gnome for doing this
[14:32] <porpoise> iceroot: I think it is, by creating a tunnel for port forwarding
[14:32] <tonyyarusso> iceroot: sort of.  There's what's called a reverse connection, where basically A access B to say "hey, here's a connection you can use if you want it!" and B can say "oh sweet, I think I will"
[14:32] <jrib> madsj: easiest way is to just use gnome-power-manager
[14:33] <iceroot> tonyyarusso: s i can type ssh A on PC B? after SSH B from pc A?
[14:33] <madsj> jrib: no other fun way using configuration files ? :-)
[14:33] <tonyyarusso> iceroot: I'll try to find the explanation of how - hang on
[14:33] <jrib> madsj: well sure you can emulate whatever gnome-power-manager does, but why would you...  I don't know how offhand
[14:34] <sipior> iceroot: have a look at the "-R" switch in the ssh man page
[14:35] <tonyyarusso> iceroot: here's one example: http://www.howtoforge.com/reverse-ssh-tunneling
[14:36] <mnaines> Is Jaunty GTK 1.0 or GTK 2.0?
[14:36] <sipior> mnaines: gtk 2
[14:36] <sipior> mnaines: (gtk 1 is very, very old)
[14:37] <mnaines> sipior: Thanks
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[14:38] <Travis-42> is there a way with apt-get to show the changelog for everything that is going to be upgraded?
[14:38] <tonyyarusso> Travis-42: yes; it's in a separate package.
[14:38] <tonyyarusso> Travis-42: apt-listchanges
[14:39] <rags> which will be a good packet generator in ubuntu?
[14:39] <Travis-42> tonyyarusso: thanks!
[14:39] <iceroot> sipior: tonyyarusso thx, i will try that
[14:39] <rags> mostly for educational purposes and maybe n/w trouble shooting..any recommendations?
[14:40] <plitter> is there a way of leaving a message for a guy that is not online?
[14:40] <Dr_Willis>  - /msg memoserv help    plitter
[14:40] <tonyyarusso> plitter: memoserv
[14:40] <community> hi geek ubuntu
[14:40] <sipior> rags: try hping
[14:40] <plitter> -/msg memoserv help
[14:41] <Dr_Willis>   --->   /msg memoserv plitter  send  yes there is
[14:41] <chippy> hi, how can i set the menu key to open context menus?
[14:41] <plitter> Dr_Willis: thanks:)
[14:42] <plitter> is there a way of checking if the guy i want to send to is a registered user?
[14:42] <rags> sipior: k thx...will try tht...it's hping2 now
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> plitter:  try sending him a memo and see i guess
[14:42] <Pici> plitter: /msg nickserv info username   irc questions really belong in #freenode though
[14:44] <sPiNe> okay spine is here
[14:46] <plitter> is there a way to burn ubuntu to a dvd instead of a cd?
[14:47] <bazhang> plitter, certainly
[14:47] <plitter> i dont have any cds left....
[14:47] <plitter> bazhang: do u know the way?
[14:47] <bazhang> there is also unetbootin for flash keys plitter
[14:47] <Guest9783> How can I add users in pgadmin so that I can login to the spesific database? Do i have to do it from terminal or in GUI pgadmin?
[14:47] <cheng> everytime i install a package there this line that appears in the end "E: Directory '/var/log/apt/' missing".
[14:48] <plitter> bazhang: doesnt that use the whole flash key?
[14:48] <cheng> is there any impact to my system how can i resolve this. Thankss
[14:48] <sipior> cheng: and...is it?
[14:48] <bazhang> plitter, it will format the key yes
[14:48] <cheng> @sipior yes sir
[14:49] <sipior> cheng: just recreate the directory with a "sudo mkdir"
[14:49] <notk0> http://www.getonmyhorse.com/
[14:49] <bazhang> notk0, dont spam here
[14:49] <plitter> bazhang: but will the rest of the space be usable?
[14:49] <notk0> it is not spam
[14:49] <alazyworkaholic> How can I get all the files in a deep directory structure (e.g. folder for each year, month, week, day, hour...) to move to one folder?
[14:49] <cheng> @sipior thanks very much
[14:49] <plitter> bazhang: when i the cd there?
[14:49] <notk0> alazyworkagohil move all the files inside a deep directory to the same folder?
[14:50] <notk0> alazyalcohilic move all the files inside a deep directory to the same folder?
[14:50] <jacquesdupontd> hi everyone
[14:50] <notk0> hello
[14:50] <jacquesdupontd> im asking my self something
[14:51] <Marukaz> I have just install program 'xmacro' from synaptec. How can i run it?
[14:51] <bazhang> plitter, not clear as to your meaning; is the cd where
[14:51] <notk0> ok
[14:51] <sipior> jacquesdupontd: you've lost your inner monologue?
[14:51] <notk0> Marukaz open the terminal and type xmacro
[14:51] <jacquesdupontd> if i copy all directory of my "/" partition on a dvd and one day on the same computer with another hard disk i copy it just after a format from the live cd will it work just like now ?
[14:51] <jacquesdupontd> sipior :)
[14:51] <notk0> no
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> alazyworkaholic:   checn the -R optio (or was it -r) to mv
[14:52] <jacquesdupontd> i know the grub
[14:52] <Marukaz> notk0 it doesn't work...
[14:52] <alazyworkaholic> notk0: yes, I want to take all the files in many folders (that get deeper, i.e. more detail at each level) & put them together in one folder.
[14:52] <jacquesdupontd> but except that
[14:52] <jacquesdupontd> hi btw sipior
[14:52] <penthief> alazyworkaholic: Untested, but 'find sourcedir -type f -exec mv {} targetdir \;'
[14:52] <notk0> alazyworkagolic it shoud be possible to do it with find and some pipes to mv
[14:52] <notk0> but I would recommend to make a script in python
[14:53] <jacquesdupontd> sipior, do you have 5 minutes to talk about something ?
[14:53] <alazyworkaholic> Dr_Willis: man mv doesn't show an r or R option. by the way, thanks for the yes command tip. It worked.
[14:53] <hoangtung> kfjkd
[14:54] <sipior> acquesdupontd: busy at the moment. what topic would you suggest?
[14:54] <roger_padactor> trying to connect to samba server it logs me in but then it just logs me out and im not left with smb: \>  anyone know why
[14:55] <jacquesdupontd> sipior, making my own distrib of a modified ubuntu for my own computers
[14:55] <alazyworkaholic> penthief: find ~/Photos/* -type f -exec mv {} ~/Desktop/collected        ???
[14:56] <penthief> alazyworkaholic: I always stick an 'echo' before the exec before running it properly to make sure I am not doing any thing stupid, but that's just me.
[14:56] <Joelio> Hi guys, I need to be able to set the permissions and ownership of a usb printer to be www-data (to allow writing via http) every time it connects. I'm afraid my udev knowledge is lacking
[14:56] <alazyworkaholic> I thought linux would have an easy way to throw out directories while keeping the files.
[14:56] <Marukaz> I have just install program 'xmacro' from synaptec. But i can't find it. What shoud i do?
[14:57] <penthief> alazyworkaholic: You are missing the string "\;" (without the quotes)
[14:57] <War> hello, im having some issues installing microsoft office thru wine, is it even possible? or am i doing something wrong?
[14:57] <penthief> alazyworkaholic: This is a terminator to the exec flag.
[14:57] <mnaines> War, why do you need Microsoft Office?  Just use Openoffice.org
[14:57] <Pici> War: Wine support is in #winehq also /msg ubottu appdb
[14:58] <alazyworkaholic> penthief: I know nil about strings. Do it the hard way then?
[14:58] <penthief> alazyworkaholic: No, never the hard way!
[14:58] <sipior> jacquesdupontd: heh, that's easy: don't bother. you can use aptitude to generate a list of installed packages for easy cloning, and ensure that /etc is backed up so that configuration files are easily recoverable.
[14:58] <penthief> alazyworkaholic: find ~/Photos -type f -exec mv {} ~/Desktop/collected \;
[14:59] <penthief> alazyworkaholic: So, 2 changes
[14:59] <rjune_> alazyworkaholic: what he said.
[14:59] <jacquesdupontd> sipior, understood but could i make an distrib installation software on a dvd that would install everything and maybe ask you options if you want this package or not to be installed like a flash plugin for example.
[15:00] <jacquesdupontd> exemple
[15:00] <Travis-42> So I'm trying to use apt-listchanges, but I'm not figuring out how to get apt-get to use it. is there something special I need to do?
[15:00] <Pici> Travis-42: You may need to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt-listchanges first
[15:01] <jacquesdupontd> sipior, so that it could make the mbr at the same time like when you install ubuntu, in fact a sort of personal ubuntu with all i need and possibility to put or not the packages i have choosen for having the choice
[15:01] <alazyworkaholic> penthief: Thanks, that worked! Learning basic scripting & strings etc. is on my todo list.
[15:01] <Travis-42> Pici: I've tried that. It doesn't ask anything about apt, should it?
[15:02] <sipior> jacquesdupontd: sure, i'm fairly certain there is information about customised ubuntu installs on the ubuntu community documentation site.
[15:02] <Pici> Travis-42: It should present you with options as to when you want to see the changes and what pager if any you want to use
[15:03] <rohdef> is there a central certificate handler for Ubuntu, so I have a central place, to place my digital signature (not GPG)?
[15:04] <jacquesdupontd> sipior, ok, so it seems to be easy from what you say gonna check that later, thx man.
[15:04] <buday> üdvözlet
[15:05] <CHESLYN> hi guys
[15:05] <penthief> jacquesdupontd: Look up puppet configuration management. This might be a better solution.
[15:05] <j1mp492> Command to install adobe flash player?!
[15:05] <j1mp492> to firefox
[15:05] <CHESLYN> anyone how do you install linux on a PS
[15:05] <buday> asdf
[15:06] <Travis-42> Pici: yea I guess it does that.  apt-get should just display the changelog when I do "apt-get upgrade" ?
[15:06] <CHESLYN> or are you able
[15:06] <salih> j1mp492, your system 64bit?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> CHESLYN: whats a PS?
[15:07] <j1mp492> salih: yes
[15:07] <salih> http://www.linuxuzmani.com/linuxta-64-bit-adobe-flash-player-kurulumu.html
[15:08] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip: a play station
[15:08] <salih> open with gnome-terminal or konsole
[15:08] <salih> mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
[15:08] <salih> wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[15:08] <salih> tar zxvf libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[15:08] <salih> sudo cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins
[15:08] <FloodBot1> salih: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:08] <penthief> You can run 32bit flash on 64-bit linux, and it is a lot easier to install. At least it was 4/5 months ago.
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> CHESLYN: playstation / playstation 2 or playstation 3?
[15:09] <j1mp492> salih: i have in mind that it should be a terminal command like apt-get install flash-nonfree
[15:09] <salih> http://paste.ubuntu.com/292379/
[15:09] <j1mp492> penthief: whats the command?
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> j1mp492: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> salih: that guide doesnt tidy itself up ;)
[15:10] <cheng> quit
[15:10] <salih> :)
[15:10] <ranjan> hai guys
[15:10] <salih> oho.
[15:10] <salih> hi
[15:10] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip: a play station 3
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> salih: if you cd into the plugins dir and wget, you can extract then rm in the same folder ;)
[15:10] <j1mp492> ActionParsnip: flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version...
[15:10] <j1mp492> ActionParsnip: and it still dont work :
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> j1mp492: do you have other flash plugins installed like gnash or swfdec
[15:11] <j1mp492> ActionParsnip: i dont now
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> CHESLYN: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayStation_3
[15:11] <salih> j1mp492,  sudo apt-get remove -y –purge flashplugin-nonfree gnash gnash-common mozilla-plugin-gnash swfdec-mozilla libflashsupport nspluginwrappe
[15:11] <salih> try after
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> j1mp492: what is the output of: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[15:12] <j1mp492> salih: couldnt find package -purge
[15:12] <salih> no -
[15:12] <salih> change plase --
[15:12] <salih> --purge
[15:12] <j1mp492> ok
[15:13] <salih> sudo apt-get remove -y --purge flashplugin-nonfree gnash gnash-common mozilla-plugin-gnash swfdec-mozilla libflashsupport nspluginwrapper
[15:13] <salih> thats true :)
[15:13] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip: thanks and ssh
[15:13] <j1mp492> salih: works now hope flash works after this then
[15:14] <j1mp492> wait..
[15:14] <salih> :)
[15:14] <j1mp492> salih: what should i do now?
[15:15] <shane2peru> ok, dvdstyler is seg faulting, and devede is failing too, and doesn't give a reason.  This is really annoying, I have used dvdstyler for a while, any ideas on troubleshooting these?
[15:15] <penthief> ActionParsnip: Regexes! dpkg -l|grep 'flash\|gnash\|swf'
[15:15] <tree> I installed openbox and then xorg, I am running openbox but when I open /etc/X11/xorg.conf for changing my default resolution, It is empty. What should I do ?
[15:15] <Appiah> tried changing your res from within X?
[15:16] <tree> I installed openbox and then xorg, I am running openbox but when I open /etc/X11/xorg.conf for changing my default resolution, It is empty. What should I do ?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> penthief: same ting :)
[15:16] <salih> j1mp492, http://paste.ubuntu.com/292387/
[15:16] <roger_padactor> can you make symlinks to mounted dr on mounted drives
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> tree: what is the output of: lsb_release -c
[15:17] <tree> Appiah: It does'nt last for next reboot
[15:17] <j1mp492> salih: what i should i do with those?
[15:17] <j1mp492> salih: what should i do with those*
[15:17] <tree> ActionParsnip: says jaunty
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> tree: ok thats cool
[15:18] <salih> insert to console.
[15:18] <tree> ActionParsnip: Any idea ?
[15:18] <j1mp492> salih: okey
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> tree: not sure
[15:19] <thiebaude> i installed the nvidia 180 drivers, now its saying run nvidia-xconfig as root and restart the x server, how do i do that?
[15:19] <tree> Somebody, I installed openbox and then xorg, I am running openbox but when I open /etc/X11/xorg.conf for changing my default resolution, It is empty. What should I do ?
[15:19] <j1mp492> salih: done, and now?
[15:19] <Emery> what is the command to see what is connected via usb so i can mount ?
[15:19] <chippy> hi, how can i set the menu key to open context menus? keyboard>layouts>keyboard options> set standard behavior to menu key doe not work.
[15:19] <SAW_230> hi
[15:19] <mnaines> Emery: lsusb
[15:20] <Emery> mnaines, i mean like ... sda blah
[15:20] <Emery> i got this
[15:20] <Emery> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0fce:e0c8 Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB
[15:20] <Emery> but i need to know what sda it is
[15:20] <Emery> to mount
[15:20] <tree> how can I auto-generate the default "xorg.conf" file ?
[15:21] <Emery> tree Xorg -configure
[15:21] <Emery> tree X -config /root/xorg.conf.new
[15:22] <BaGy> tree, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[15:22] <wasutton3> is there a way to recall older messages in the glass notification area in the default gnome desktop? i think someone at my university's it department cracked the password on my vnc server and logged in but i didnt grab the ip address fast enough
[15:22] <Emery> BaGy, that's not what he asked.
[15:23] <roger_padactor> anyone know how to symlink a samba server dir? i've got it mounted on my desktop but i cant seem to see it in the terminal
[15:23] <tree> BaGy: thanks :)
[15:23] <BaGy> .
[15:23] <BaGy> xD
[15:23] <Cervantes_xD> hi everyone
[15:23] <BaGy> Emery, he ask how to auto reconfigure
[15:24] <deadman> hi does anyone have any idea how to get pinnacle USB PCTV Analogue working in ubuntu 9.04
[15:24] <Emery> How do i figure out which SDA my mobile is to mount it ?
[15:25] <Leftblank> hm, I installed Subversion on my Ubuntu 9.04 install, but when I hit svn --version, it only displays ra_svn and ra_local, so I cant use a HTTPS repository, how would I get the additional modules?
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> Emery:  sudo fdisk -l, or check 'dmesg' when you plug it in.
[15:26] <miho_> hi everybody, can someone help me out. I'm relatively new on Linux (Ubuntu). Is there a way to change the brown colour to another colour
[15:26] <Emery> Dr_Willis, it's not showing up in fdisk
[15:26] <wasutton3> miho_: go to system -> preferences -> appearance
[15:26] <BaGy> miho_, yes :)
[15:27] <jph_> RAID 1 Question - I have a Supermicro motherboard that has 4 SATA connections; Can I have 2 RAID 1 setups on that? i.e. Can I take 2 100g HDs and set them up in a RAID 1 for my Ubuntu Server OS and then later take 2 1Tb HDs and set them up in a RAID 1 for my mass storage drive and then mount them within the system
[15:27] <miho_> thanks what next
[15:27] <beasty_> jph_: hardware raid or software raid ?
[15:27] <miho_> found it, thanks, you have to understand a newbie
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> Emery:  then its not seen by the system at all i think.
[15:27] <BaGy> miho_, go to www.gnomelook.org
[15:28] <wasutton3> is there a way to recall older messages in the glass notification area in the default gnome desktop? i think someone at my university's it department cracked the password on my vnc server and logged in but i didnt grab the ip address fast enough
[15:28] <BaGy> miho_, and download theme...
[15:28] <jph_> well i know next to nothing about RAIDs i have used them but never set them up myself, so what do i need to know... (I would think software)
[15:28] <CHESLYN> ActionParsnip: thanks and ssh
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> wasutton3:  theres some logs i think for the vncserver in your home dir...
[15:28] <kilo> Is anyone familiar with this situation: I've installed a program in jaunty, but now I want to get rid of it. It doesn't show up in the Add/Remove software app, or in Synaptic. Can I just delete it? Is there any kind of registry implications that I should worry about?
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  depends on how/what you installed.
[15:28] <beasty_> wasutton3: check syslog
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  impications can range from none... to  LOTS of problems.
[15:29] <miho_> i went to gnomelook, thanks again....
[15:29] <kilo> Dr_Willis, it's an adobe AIR app.
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  thers supposed tobe an adobe air app Uninstaller icon somewhere...
[15:29] <kilo> Dr_Willis, nothing vital to the system, just a stock-viewing program.
[15:30] <kilo> Dr_Willis, there is an icon to uninstall AIR itself, but I just want to get rid of that app
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  last i tried adobe air ( and i regretted it) there was some Adobe air Uninstaller app icon also.. but  that may been for a specific app i installed.
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> kilo:  sort of like an Air-app package manager.
[15:30] <kilo> Dr_Willis, ya, it installed an App installer, but not an uninstaller.
[15:31] <jph_> well i know next to nothing about RAIDs i have used them but never set them up myself, so what do i need to know... (I would think software)
[15:31] <jph_> would i need a hardware RAID in that situation
[15:31] <nautilusguy> can someone tell me which audio card(not expensive) which supports voice recording & stereo mix?>:)
[15:31] <nautilusguy> thnx
[15:31] <Out_Cold> there is 7 inches of snow out my front door :o(
[15:32] <wasutton3> Dr_Willis and beasty_: no dice on the syslog nor vncserver in the home dir
[15:32] <Out_Cold> nautilusguy, stereo mix? like voice over music?
[15:32] <Gp> i ma getting Invalid execution envioroment at grub
[15:32] <deadman> hi does anyone have any idea how to get pinnacle USB PCTV Analogue working in ubuntu 9.04...? any guides tips? where to start digging? please help... me out...
[15:32] <Pici> !crosspost | Gp
[15:32] <nautilusguy> out_cold....so that i cud record any online radio to gnome sound recorder:)
[15:32] <wasutton3> nevermind, found in in /home/$USER/.cache
[15:33] <Gp> wht hell is this error any body know
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> deadman: run:   lsusb   websearch for the 8 character hex ID
[15:33] <Gp> pl help me
[15:33] <Out_Cold> nautilusguy, there are lots of inexpensive cards you can use, why not find a card and compare it to the ubuntu hardware lists
[15:33] <Gp> ubunto gone my data is in that
[15:33] <trijntje> Gp: have you tried googling the exact error you get?
[15:33] <n8tuser> kilo -> try this as my AIr is installed under /opt      "/opt/Adobe AIR/Versions/1.0/Resources/Adobe AIR Updater" -arp:uninstall
[15:34] <deadman> ActionParsnip, Bus 001 Device 013: ID 2304:0232 Pinnacle Systems, Inc. [hex] PCTV 170e
[15:34] <Gp> yeah nothing zer zilth
[15:34] <Gp> why o why
[15:34] <Out_Cold> Gp, if your grub is messed up, then your data is still in one piece, you just have to unlock it
[15:34] <nautilusguy> out_cold...how do i do that? can u gimme the link pls?:)
[15:34] <tree> Is there some terminal command that can return the current resolution being used ?
[15:34] <Gp> how to repair grub ??
[15:35] <trijntje> gp: please paste the exact error you get here, than we can try to find out whats wrong
[15:35] <Gp> invalid execution enviorment
[15:35] <xrfang> hello, any korean user here (or know the korean language)?
[15:36] <ronron> Hello :)
[15:36] <Gp> i am using karmic koala
[15:36] <Out_Cold> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/
[15:36] <mnaines> !ko | xrfang
[15:36] <Out_Cold> ^^ nautilusguy
[15:36] <nautilusguy> thnx...out_cold:)
[15:36] <Out_Cold> nautilusguy, i personally have had issues trying to record live sound, but it is possible
[15:36] <trijntje> Gp: karmic koala is not stable yet, did you make a backup?
[15:36] <tree> Is there some terminal command that can return the current resolution being used ?
[15:36] <trijntje> !karmic | gp
[15:37] <Dream-Ubu> now, is there a way of,....erm... +_+' multi app launch one click to load 4 programs? a deb?
[15:37] <xrfang> mnaines: I am not intended to ask Ubuntu but just a very simple question about the korean language, but cannot find a high volume channel to find korean people...
[15:37] <lolek> hi there
[15:37] <Out_Cold> Dream-Ubu, that's when you make a bash script
[15:37] <ronron> id like some advice: ubuntu dell 9.0 doesnt work on my computer, studio xps 16. after the login i have these 2 following errors: " users $home/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permission".
[15:37] <magellan> Hello, I'm trying to bond two network interfaces on my Ubuntu 9.04 system but it seems there is a problem with the bnx2 driver. Is anyone aware of this ?
[15:37] <jph_> any thoughts?
[15:37] <Dream-Ubu> out_cold one of them :)
[15:37] <mnaines> xrfang: I am learning Japanese, not Korean.  Sorry
[15:37] <Dream-Ubu> i'll use the sooth sayer
[15:38] <Out_Cold> Dream-Ubu?
[15:38] <xrfang> mnaines: maybe you know the question, simple: do you know if korean is like english, use space to separate words, or like Japanese/Chinese, which does not have space between words?
[15:38] <Dream-Ubu> Out_Cold, i couldnt remember what theyre called...so...i thaught .deb....so
[15:39] <trijntje> Dream-Ubu, what do you want to get done?
[15:39] <Out_Cold> Dream-Ubu, you want to make a text file starting with !#/bin/bash folowed by the commands you would run to start the programs
[15:39] <archdave> no spaces? no wonder them people talk so fast
[15:39] <mnaines> xrfang: Japanase is based off both Chinese and Korean, so I would assume its like Japanese or Chinese
[15:39] <Out_Cold> Dream-Ubu, then you make the file executable and voila
[15:40] <Pici> !ot | xrfang mnaines
[15:40] <Dream-Ubu> i want to make a script to load - AMSN, Dofus, Konversation and audacious
[15:40] <xrfang> mnaines thanks for your guess :)
[15:40] <Moon_Doggy> mnaines: good luck with japanese
[15:40] <xrfang> off
[15:40] <Moon_Doggy> on
[15:40] <mauro> AkaJak +i
[15:42] <Out_Cold> can someone verify this script for Dream-Ubu?? http://pastebin.com/m1867a35c
[15:42] <dream_> lost connection +_+'
[15:42] <Out_Cold> http://pastebin.com/m510afa7b
[15:42] <Out_Cold> second one..
[15:43] <xfm> Hi! Im trying to configurate my /etc/network/interfaces to setup a network, any expert here?
[15:43] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone help me..i inserted my usb in windows and now in ubuntu i am unable to delete the files as i do not have permissions...i tried changing the permissions but i couldn't do it
[15:43] <Out_Cold> i forgot the &&s
[15:43] <afeijo> I have a ubuntu server kernel version 2.6.24-24-generic, is that the last one?
[15:43] <Emery> afeijo, kernel.org
[15:43] <maco> xfm: not much to it thats not in "man 5 interfaces".... you hitting a bump?
[15:43] <trijntje> Out_Cold, wont that script wait until amsn complets, than wait till dofus completes etc...
[15:43] <Out_Cold> so it's ; not &&
[15:44] <maco> Out_Cold:  ; runs both unconditionally
[15:44] <afeijo> mine is pretty old than
[15:44] <maco> Out_Cold: X && Y runs Y only if X succeeds
[15:44] <Out_Cold> http://pastebin.com/m1b5d118e
[15:44] <Out_Cold> better?
[15:44] <Boohbah> succeeds == return 0
[15:44] <maco> afeijo: 2.6.24 means youre running 8.04
[15:44] <Pici> Out_Cold: no use something like http://pastebin.com/m46b408a0
[15:44] <maco> afeijo: thats just fine
[15:44] <trijntje> Out_Cold, I think now it waits until amsn stops
[15:44] <xfm> maco: I try to use Firestarter to share my internet connexion through a wifi, but I have an error message eth1 is not working
[15:45] <Out_Cold> there Dream- your script is http://pastebin.com/m46b408a0
[15:45] <afeijo> maco: yeah its probably 8.04, I usually access my server thru ssh, should I update to 9.04 or leave it?
[15:45] <penthief> Pici, Out_Cold: Hash-bang not Bang-hash! #! not !#
[15:45] <Out_Cold> oh crud lol
[15:45] <damaltor> hello
[15:45] <maco> afeijo: 8.04's got 5 years of security updates as a server. leave it
[15:45] <Pici> penthief: I just edited the other one, but yes, thats true
[15:45] <churl1> Hello all!  On a fresh install of Xubuntu 9.04 my keyboards volume up/down/mute buttons are not working.  Volume control elsewhere is fine. Can anyone point me in a direction?
[15:45] <afeijo> thanks
[15:46] <Out_Cold> scripting at 7 am is not very handy lol
[15:46] <Dream-> Out-Cold: save as what?
[15:46] <xfm> maco: reading the man, woao as usual ubuntu is sooo complicated ;)
[15:46] <maco> xfm: oooh dunno, ive never tried bridgin, sorry
[15:46] <damaltor> can someone tell how to make an iso image from a physical cd-rom, with console commands? is it as easy a using dd or do i need to use some special tool for this?
[15:46] <Out_Cold> Dream-, http://pastebin.com/m4b9977ad
[15:46] <Out_Cold> use that one
[15:46] <maco> damaltor: mkisofs?
[15:46] <Appiah> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys churl1
[15:46] <Out_Cold> and save as multi-script or something
[15:46] <maco> damaltor: oh hmm from a physical cd, dd should work
[15:47] <Dream-> oki
[15:47] <damaltor> maco: isnt this to make an iso file from a directory structure? i want to make an image from a cdrom
[15:47] <Out_Cold> Dream-, save it as anything you want, you can even have any extension if you wish
[15:47] <maco> damaltor: yeah i didnt read the whole sentence. go for dd
[15:47] <damaltor> maco: ok thanks
[15:47] <ctk> Hi all! On a fresh install of Ubuntu 9.04 I fail to stay logged in. It logs out as soon as gnome opens up. Same thing happens on Live CD boot to Desktop. Any Help?
[15:48] <churl1> thanks Appiah
[15:48] <PerryArmstrong> hey can anyone help me..i inserted my usb in windows and now in ubuntu i am unable to delete the files as i do not have permissions...i tried changing the permissions but i couldn't do it..help me please
[15:48] <Out_Cold> PerryArmstrong, try going into windows and properly unmounting the usb drive
[15:48] <Paddy_NI> damaltor: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CreateIsoFromCDorDVD
[15:48] <deadman> ActionParsnip, Bus 001 Device 013: ID 2304:0232 Pinnacle Systems, Inc. [hex] PCTV 170e
[15:48] <deadman> sorry
[15:48] <deadman> hi does anyone have any idea how to get pinnacle USB PCTV Analogue working in ubuntu 9.04...? any guides tips? where to start digging? please help... me out...
[15:49] <PerryArmstrong> Out_Cold; i couldn't do that as it had virus....it prevents usb from being umounted properly
[15:49] <Paddy_NI> deadman: the ubuntu forums.. google :)
[15:49] <Out_Cold> PerryArmstrong, there is a force mount command but i can't remember the syntax
[15:49] <damaltor> Paddy_NI: thank you :)
[15:49] <Paddy_NI> damaltor: no probs
[15:49] <deadman> Paddy_NI, hopelessforums.com :S
[15:49] <deadman> Paddy_NI, all i found there was tears...
[15:50] <Paddy_NI> hehe
[15:50] <xfm> any internet sharing using wifi expert here?
[15:50] <xfm> sooo easy on windows ;)
[15:50] <Bilge> Where are ufw rules stored?
[15:50] <Dream-> out-cold: you know you said any extension, does that mean .swf >_< cos that'd be funky
[15:51] <magellan> Is anyone using network interfaces bonding here ?
[15:51] <damaltor> deadman: tried that. get a screwdriver and disassemble it, and search for the name printed on the IC rather than searching for the name of the stick. that made some other stick working for me.
[15:51] <Dream-> out-cold: i dont have a clue btw ive just rewoken
[15:51] <Out_Cold> Dream-, sure.. linux doesn't care about extension names
[15:51] <Dream-> can someone ghost my other nick please?
[15:52] <Paddy_NI> deadman: what is the exact model?
[15:52] <Out_Cold> Dream-, is it registered?
[15:52] <chippy> hi, how can i set the menu key to open context menus? keyboard>layouts>keyboard options> set standard behavior to menu key doe not work.
[15:52] <Dream-> Dream-Ubu +_+'  and yes
[15:52] <Paddy_NI> brb.. gotta check the oven :)
[15:52] <Out_Cold> then type /msg nickserv ghost Dream-Ubu yourpassword
[15:52] <MR_OS> Hi room
[15:52] <deadman> Paddy_NI, dmaltor the model is Pinnacle PCTV Analogue Stick (USB)
[15:52] <MR_OS> any mac users here?
[15:52] <Dream-> yay! :)
[15:53] <jph_> Anyone Know about RAIDs here? The difference between hardware and software RAID and the pros and cons of each?
[15:53] <Pici> !ghost | Dream-Ubu
[15:53] <cheng> can anyone suggest a calendar plotting program other than evolution? I only need the calendar stuff not mai.. thanks
[15:53] <damaltor> deadman: do you know exactly wich IC is built into it? try to get a driver for that chip rather than for the complete hardware
[15:53] <the_hoser> jph_: what do you want to know?
[15:53] <Dream-Ubu> thanks pici
[15:53] <jph_> RAID 1 Question - I have a Supermicro motherboard that has 4 SATA connections; Can I have 2 RAID 1 setups on that? i.e. Can I take 2 100g HDs and set them up in a RAID 1 for my Ubuntu Server OS and then later take 2 1Tb HDs and set them up in a RAID 1 for my mass storage drive and then mount them within the system
[15:53] <MR_OS> can any 1 suggest me how to WRITE on HFS formatted disk in ubuntu?
[15:54] <Out_Cold> PerryArmstrong, the command is something like this but change to suit your needs mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/windisk -o force
[15:54] <the_hoser> jph_: if the raid controller allows you to have more than 1 volume (most do), then yes.
[15:54] <deadman> damaltor, i think its the em28xx
[15:54] <Paddy_NI> deadman: These people seem to have gotten video to work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1006699
[15:54] <deadman> damaltor, but where can i get drivers for it?
[15:54] <the_hoser> jph_: however, you need to make sure that your raid card is supported.
[15:54] <Paddy_NI> deadman: seems a step in the right direction
[15:54] <jph_> would that be a hardware or software RAID
[15:54] <damaltor> deadman: then google for that. usually, the chips are built into more then one device so the chance to get a driver is bigger then just searching for that special pinnacle device
[15:55] <the_hoser> jph_: most on-motherboard raid controllers are pseudo-software raid.  pure hardware raid is expensive.
[15:55] <deadman> Paddy_NI, thanks for the link... will dig into it
[15:55] <PerryArmstrong> Out_Cold; my usb is auto mounting....the only problem is i am unable to delete files as I have only read permissions
[15:55] <jph_> those SATA ports are on on-board if that matters... how do i go about seeing if it is supported
[15:55] <deadman> damaltor, oh... ok...
[15:55] <JuJuBee> I am trying to install a program on Ubuntu 64 bit and am getting an error when trying to run the program: error while loading shared libraries: libQtWebKit.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:56] <the_hoser> jph_: well, do you know the model of your motherboard?
[15:56] <jph_> I will be back in 60sec with that in info thanks for the help
[15:56] <Out_Cold> PerryArmstrong, then: gksu nautilus or chown -R yourname:yourname /path/to/files
[15:56] <detrate> is there a channel specific to managing a ubuntu server?
[15:57] <resno> !server | detrate:
[15:57] <genii> detrate: #ubuntu-server
[15:57] <detrate> :) thanks
[15:57] <deadman> damaltor, when i turn on tvtime it says that there is no device on video0
[15:57] <Out_Cold> Dream-Ubu, you get your script working?
[15:57] <deadman> but on my virtual machine windows it works fine
[15:57] <JuJuBee> Anybody?  libQTWebKit.so.4 ?
[15:58] <genii> JuJuBee: You're currently in #ubuntu , where for instance most of the Gnome apps don't use Qt but GTK
[15:58] <damaltor> deadman: usually, those chips get their firmware on plugging them in, so the computer has to send a firmware to the device bevore it can work. you will need a suitable driver for interacting with the device itselv, and a suitable firmware to make the device do something. both of them have to fot the IC in your pinnacle device.
[15:58] <jph_> Ok I think it is the SuperMicro 'Super X5DAL-TG2'
[15:59] <damaltor> deadman: *fit the IC..
[15:59] <JuJuBee> genii : so QT is a kde specific
[15:59] <blue-pearl> how to ring sound on Dell Inspiron 1440 running Ubuntu 9.04?
[15:59] <Emery> QT is not KDE specific at all.
[15:59] <genii> JuJuBee: Basically, yes
[15:59] <JuJuBee> k
[15:59] <blue-pearl> how to bring sound on Dell Inspiron 1440 running Ubuntu 9.04?
[16:00] <Paddy_NI> Emery: when it comes to linux and ubuntu (gnome) it is
[16:00] <Out_Cold> kde uses QT and gnome uses gtk, but you can have both on both systems
[16:00] <genii> Emery: I just opted for the short answer :)
[16:00] <Emery> QT can be used on any desktop
[16:00] <Paddy_NI> Emery: did anyone say anything to the contrary?
[16:00] <blue-pearl> how to bring sound on Dell Inspiron 1440 running Ubuntu 9.04?
[16:00] <JuJuBee> genii : on a side note, everybody tells me that I should use aptitude to intall not apt-get.   This true?
[16:01] <PerryArmstrong> Out_Cold; http://paste.ubuntu.com/292423/
[16:01] <Emery> Paddy_NI, alright don't cry.
[16:01] <Paddy_NI> O_o
[16:01] <Out_Cold> blue-pearl, start by opening a terminal and typing alsamixer
[16:01] <Emery> Don't be getting all irish on me.
[16:01] <damaltor> blue-pearl: find out model of sound card. get drivers.
[16:01] <Paddy_NI> Emery: be careful
[16:01] <deadman> damaltor, i read somewhere that my device works with video4linux
[16:01] <deadman> so where and how can i install video4linux?
[16:01] <Out_Cold> oh lol.. PerryArmstrong you have to unmount the drive and remount it as read/write
[16:01] <Emery> Paddy_NI, You gunna IRA my ass ?
[16:02] <Paddy_NI> !o4o
[16:02] <grawity> Out_Cold: mount -o remount,rw /path
[16:02] <jph_> the_hoser: It is the 'Super X5DAL-TG2'
[16:02] <system404> Emery: better watch paddy will but a bomb in your biscuit tin
[16:02] <PerryArmstrong> Out_Cold; you mean this:  mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/windisk -o force
[16:02] <Emery> The question still stands.
[16:02] <Out_Cold> PerryArmstrong, see grawity's post ^^
[16:02] <Emery> ROFL
[16:02] <damaltor> deadman: find that site again and find out how ;) no seriosly: if they say it works, there should be some telling how. maybe, it is as easy as the device doenst name /dev/videox but some other name. what does dmesg say if you plug it in?
[16:03] <genii> JuJuBee: It's just a matter of personal preference. Personally I like apt-get. Others like aptitude. There used to be more of a difference in how dependencies were handled which made aptitude preferable.
[16:03] <blue-pearl> damaltor: from where can i get the drivers?
[16:03] <damaltor> blue-pearl: usually, google. but did you try alsamixer?
[16:03] <JuJuBee> genii: not so much now?
[16:04] <PerryArmstrong> Out_Cold; http://paste.ubuntu.com/292425/
[16:04] <genii> JuJuBee: Exactly
[16:04] <deadman> damaltor, dmesg gives a very long list... of stuff...
[16:04] <Out_Cold> grawity, can you see what's wrong with PerryArmstrong's post?
[16:04] <deadman> and it doesnt mention about my device i think...
[16:04] <resno> i am trying to write a simple bash command, that will execute two terminal commands.  how do i make it open anohter nistance of the terminal?
[16:04] <helpdesk> hello, does anyone know how i could correct an error on my ubuntu abt themes, sounds or background settings?
[16:05] <blue-pearl> damaltor: actually its not my laptop its my frnds, he has no internet so i am searching for the answer.
[16:05] <jph_> the_hoser: you there?
[16:05] <grawity> resno: Depends on the terminal you are using. I guess you're using GNOME Terminal, so just run "gnome-terminal"
[16:05] <damaltor> deadman: ok. unplug the device, wait 10 secs, plug it back in. then compare, what is "new" and what is "old" output. maybe it tells you why it doesnt work.
[16:05] <suman> how do i manage startup services and programes in ubuntu?
[16:05] <system404> suman go to system preferences startup applications
[16:06] <uniq_user> system administration services on the menu
[16:06] <Emery> If ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is KDE ... what is the core that you can install with the minimal cd ?
[16:06] <deadman> damaltor, ok..
[16:06] <grawity> Out_Cold: Based on the media name ("KINGSTON") and the paths ("S-1-blah-blah"), I guess the filesystem is either FAT32 or NTFS, neither of which support Unix file owner or permissions.
[16:06] <Out_Cold> Emery, ubuntu server
[16:06] <Emery> It's not a server
[16:06] <Emery> At all
[16:06] <Out_Cold> grawity, but it's still read only
[16:06] <Emery> It's a core.
[16:06] <resno> grawity: how do i make it run that command in the new open terminal?
[16:06] <grawity> resno: Same as any other command.
[16:07] <damaltor> blue-pearl: ok. step one: run alsamixer. some soundcards are only muted. alsamixer is easy, but be sure to read some manual before using it. if that is not working, try lspci in console, find the sound card entry, and then google for drivers. i dont own that notebook so i cannot help you directly.
[16:07] <jph_> the_hoser: you there?
[16:07] <grawity> Out_Cold: Can he create files using 'touch' or $EDITOR?
[16:07] <suman> system404: well, i am using kubuntu.. and it doesnot have that??
[16:07] <Out_Cold> Emery, you can load ubuntu server without any server components, which would be just a core..
[16:07] <the_hoser> jph_: yeah.  did you find the model?
[16:07] <resno> grawity: it opens but doesnt run the command there, it contiunes to wait for the current terimal process to end.
[16:07] <suman> system404: any way to do it usin comand line?
[16:07] <resno> grawity: instead of using the instance i created
[16:07] <Pici> Emery: The minimal CD does not have a desktop environment like the Kubuntu or Ubuntu installers.
[16:08] <Out_Cold> PerryArmstrong, try touch test.file
[16:08] <system404> it will have something similar then ive never used the kde enviro allways gnome all the wayt
[16:08] <jph_> the_hoser: It is the 'Super X5DAL-TG2'
[16:08] <PerryArmstrong> Out_Cold, grawity; do i have to do that in my usb directory
[16:08] <Out_Cold> PerryArmstrong, sorry try touch /media/KINGSTON/test.file
[16:09] <jph_> By SuperMicro
[16:09] <Out_Cold> i need to go make a pot of coffee
[16:09] <Out_Cold> stupid snow outside..
[16:09] <PerryArmstrong> Out_Cold, grawity; says cannot touch as its Read-only file system
[16:09] <blue-pearl> damaltor: thanx...will try it.
[16:09] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: What is the output of 'grep KINGSTON /etc/mtab' ?
[16:09] <damaltor> blue-pearl: no problem
[16:10] <damaltor> deadman: did you find something useful? i have to go in a few minutes
[16:10] <the_hoser> jph_: mmkay.  you have linux supported fakeraid.  I'd honestly go with software raid.  It's less buggy.  Unless you have a *real* raid controller, software raid is almost always better.
[16:10] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; http://paste.ubuntu.com/292431/
[16:10] <rahmu> hey guys I'm looking to install a software on a live USB. Any ideas how to do it ?
[16:10] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: Oh, one more thing. Your previous paste lists a few files - and all of them I recognize as instances of a Windows virus which spreads by USB drives. So while it is _not_ related to your problem, I still wanted to point that out.
[16:11] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: Hm. Does the drive have a physical readonly switch? Some do.
[16:11] <Out_Cold> thank goodness we run linux :p
[16:11] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; ya i know that those are virus...but then i can't delete them unless i can have the permissions
[16:12] <jph_> the_hoser:  Ok so i should go with a software RAID and there shouldn't be a problem having 2 separate RAIDs
[16:12] <lab> hi. which is the best way to install ATI driver for ubuntu 9.04 ? I followed these instructions and they were a disaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI   . any suggestion? thanks
[16:12] <the_hoser> jph_: correct
[16:12] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; no such kind of switch
[16:12] <Out_Cold> PerryArmstrong, do you need any of the other files on there?
[16:12] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: Are there any other files, besides the viruses?
[16:12] <jph_> great, thank you so much for your time
[16:12] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: You could try recreating the filesystem.
[16:12] <PerryArmstrong> Out_Cold; nope
[16:12] <Out_Cold> i'd fdisk the thing... or gparted
[16:12] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; so how do I...
[16:12] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: As in, umount /media/KINGSTON; mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[16:13] <the_hoser> jph_: np
[16:13] <Dream-Ubu> well, Out-Cold, it works ^^ thank you, i've just got to fix the Dofus bit :)
[16:13] <resno> ive written this bash script to excute these two commands into seperate terminals instances but it only runs on the one i called the script from. http://paste.ubuntu.com/292435/
[16:13] <Out_Cold> thank the rest of the guys in here too... they helped just as much ;)
[16:14]  * Dream-Ubu fetches the megaphone
[16:14] <Dream-Ubu> *sound of feed back* thank you and pici, you scare me :)
[16:15] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; http://paste.ubuntu.com/292437/
[16:15] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: um
[16:16] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; seems fishy
[16:16] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: Try cd /; !!;
[16:16] <Dream-Ubu> wow...over 2million pastes on the paste bin? almost 3!
[16:16] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: You're cd'd to /media/KINGSTON, so it cannot umount it.
[16:16] <grawity> Dream-Ubu: Actually, almost 300 thousand.
[16:17] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; hehe done
[16:17] <Dream-Ubu> grawity: shhh im magic, its 3million to my right eye and 300k to my left....the cusor didnt help me at all
[16:19] <Out_Cold> and most people use their own paste bins in here...  if we had a monopoly on the bins it'd be much higher
[16:20] <deadman> hi does anyone have any idea how to get pinnacle USB PCTV Analogue working in ubuntu 9.04...? any guides tips? where to start digging? please help... me out...
[16:22] <PerryArmstrong> Out_cold; then no one will use linux
[16:22] <Out_Cold> yea good point... but it was just a vague observation
[16:23] <Pici> #ubuntu-offtopic awaits
[16:25] <samk> hello
[16:25] <Guest35058> need help no sounds!! again!!
[16:26] <q0_0p> does anyone know if the wrt routers come with iptables when u buy it?
[16:27] <samk> I'm trying to run wireless on my laptop with a Atheros AR242x but the interface doesn't come up. I already enabled HAL and Support for Atheros on the "Hardware Drivers" but the interface is still down.
[16:27] <samk> Does anybody knows a how to page or something. I google it but didn't find anything.
[16:27] <iPwned> anybody having display issues with the beta?
[16:27] <mnaines1> q0_0p: This what you're talking about? http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0302906
[16:27] <PerryArmstrong> Out_cold; ya just a passing comment.... i suppose Mr. Gates would be too interested in it
[16:27] <intok> where can I get printer drivers for the canon pixma IP6600D
[16:27] <boojit> q0_0p: are you talking about linksys routers like wrt54gl?
[16:28] <q0_0p> mnaines1, yes
[16:28] <q0_0p> Boohbah, yes
[16:28] <q0_0p> boojit, yes
[16:28] <subone> When I fullscreen anything it mirrors it onto my other monitor even though I have both set up to display seperately not mirrored. The other monitor appears scrambled and mixed up a little though. Any ideas what could cause this garbling of the second, albeit unexpected, image?
[16:28] <Pici> !ot | q0_0p
[16:28] <boojit> q0_0p: you buy a router like the wrt54gl, then you install a linux kernel configured to run on it, such as OpenWRT
[16:28] <boojit> it will come with iptables
[16:28] <q0_0p> nice
[16:28] <q0_0p> thats my goal
[16:29] <boojit> q0_0p: but this doesn't have a thing to do with ubuntu as far as i can tell
[16:29] <boojit> try #openwrt
[16:29] <q0_0p> k
[16:29] <iPwned> is 9.10 really going to be ready ? I have tons of issues
[16:29] <mnaines1> iPwned: #karmic
[16:29] <Pici> iPwned: 9.10 discussion is in #ubuntu+1 , I suggest you ask there
[16:29] <boojit> i'll join over there if you have more questions...although others there can help more than me
[16:29] <jpds> iPwned: ...and... I have none.
[16:29] <iPwned> anybody eles have issues on 9.1
[16:30] <billybigrigger> can someone point me in the direction of a good cd ripper? i want to rip cd's to flac with a log
[16:30] <Pici> mnaines1: #karmic is not a registered channel
[16:30] <churl1> Appiah: thanks again
[16:30] <mnaines1> Pici: My bad.  I was trying to get ubottu to mention it
[16:30] <olmari> Hello, is there an way to install an downloaded .deb from CLI so that depencies will get downloaded (semi)automatically too?
[16:31] <jpds> olmari: dpkg -i it, and then run: apt-get install -f
[16:31] <phryk>  hi there
[16:31] <olmari> jpds: Hmm... indeed
[16:32] <phryk> is there any possibility to mount the wubi filesystem from the host windows os?
[16:32] <BenB> in english, how do you call a person which fulfills your role in the office when you're ill or on vacation? deputy?
[16:32] <sipior> billybigrigger: sound juicer is nice
[16:32] <billybigrigger> sipior, it will rip to flac?
[16:32] <mnaines1> !ot | BenB
[16:32] <Pici> !offtopic | BenB
[16:32] <sipior> billybigrigger: yes, as i recall
[16:32] <iPwned> are there any way to force 9.04 to see my 2nd display is a LCD tv is I get het high res options
[16:33] <eaglestar> hi is there an automatic screen capture and uploader for ubuntu similar to jing project?
[16:33] <thedude42> olmari, if you just want to download the debs without installing them, you can use apt-get to get all the packag names but you might still have to download them manually (not sure if there is a toll to do that separately)
[16:33] <olmari> jpds: Okay then could there be suggested something even more automatic way... so that installation goes with one command, and it perhaps asks like apt-get joes..-
[16:33] <penthief> BenB: Shell script
[16:34] <mmckinnon> billybigrigger, for cd ripping have you looked at ubuntu's default cd ripping software sound juicer?
[16:34] <olmari> thedude42: no, problem is (was) that no automatic way to install elsewhere got .deb so that depencies would be met too (from normal repos)
[16:35] <docmax> hi there, 2 questions: can i re-initialize device driver names? (sda1 sda3 to sda1 sda2). i added a special user to group "sudo" but i still get password question... thanks
[16:35] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; so whats next
[16:35] <olmari> Well I assume I/someone could make an script for this, tough this particular problem isn't THAT often met
[16:35] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: Did you run mkfs?
[16:36] <docmax> anyone?
[16:36] <billybigrigger> mmckinnon, yeah using it right now
[16:36] <billybigrigger> sound juicer doesn't spit out a log or what?
[16:36] <ruby_on_tails> is tehere an instant snapshot taking software for ubuntu ?
[16:36] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; no..i am not so good with commands, as i am kinda newbie
[16:36] <ruby_on_tails> for web designers
[16:36] <ruby_on_tails> to capture a good design/design element when they see it, tag it, etc
[16:37] <m0se5> Hi #ubuntu... bash script question. These variations of this line doesn't work. it'll either crash or hit port 22... OPTS_SSH="--rsh='ssh -ax -p 2222'"; OPTS_SSH="--rsh=\'ssh -ax -p 2222\'";  OPTS_SSH="--rsh=ssh -ax -p 2222";
[16:37] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: Well, I already told you that one - mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1 (assuming sdb1 is the bad drive)
[16:37] <docmax> hi there, 2 questions: can i re-initialize device drive names? (sda1 sda3 to sda1 sda2). question 2: i added a special user to group "sudo" but i still get password question... thanks
[16:37] <grawity> m0se5: Can I suggest putting those options to your ~/.ssh/config? Then they'll apply every time you or rsync runs ssh.
[16:38] <grawity> docmax: After adding yourself to a group, you need to logout and login again.
[16:38] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; ya i did that..is that all
[16:38] <joebodo>  ruby_on_tails take a look at shutter - it's supposed to be the best screen capture
[16:38] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: Now mount /dev/sdb1 /media/KINGSTON
[16:38] <docmax> grawity, i restarted the pc, still i get password question
[16:38] <grawity> docmax: Did you un-comment the line in 'sudoers' file?
[16:39] <przemo> HMM
[16:39] <docmax> grawity, yes, i'll double check...
[16:39] <docmax> %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
[16:39] <m0se5> grawity, that's a good workaround, yet this is a multi-user script. I couldn't expect the users to know what port the ssh server is running on.
[16:39] <docmax> %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[16:40] <grawity> m0se5: There's /etc/ssh/ssh_config too.
[16:40] <docmax> root	ALL=(ALL) ALL
[16:40] <docmax> grawity, 3 lines, all uncommented
[16:40] <docmax> big questionmark for me
[16:40] <grawity> docmax: This might be a problem - the %sudo line must be below %admin, otherwise the %admin one (with implied "PASSWD:") overrides the "NOPASSWD:" option.
[16:40] <aimtrainer> Hey! What do I use with jaunty: envy-core or envy-qt?
[16:41] <joaopinto> aimtrainer, none, I use the regular drivers
[16:41] <docmax> grawity, ok i'll check it.. but its the default order...
[16:41] <Sabir> What ports should I open on the router to work service people nearby in empathy?
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> aimtrainer:  qt - is the version using the kde qt lib
[16:41] <docmax> thanks
[16:41] <m0se5> grawity, lol... right on.. that'll work too... Thanks. um.. does that mean bash scripting won't do what I'm asking it too? I thought it was just a silly syntax error.
[16:41] <grawity> docmax: "Default" doesn't necessarily mean "correct".
[16:41] <aimtrainer> so I use core ... thanks
[16:41] <Olimpico> Hello, I have a problem with dpkg, I installed a DEB which actually works but every time I make apt-get upgrade i get an error message.
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> aimtrainer:  aimtrainer  i imagine the -core one is used by both the -qt and -gtk variants
[16:41] <Olimpico> How can I disable this, I just don't want to deinstall the DEB
[16:41] <aimtrainer> thanks
[16:41] <Dr_Willis> aimtrainer:  i imagine the -core is a 'support/ran in the background' part of the app
[16:41] <grawity> m0se5: Hm, try OPTS_SSH='--rsh="ssh -ax -p 222"'
[16:42] <Olimpico> And I want no more error messages
[16:42] <iamleneko> !tell me about beta
[16:42] <mik__> irc.dal.net
[16:42] <iamleneko> !tell me about karmic irc
[16:43] <iamleneko> !tell me about karmic channel
[16:43] <grawity> !karmic | iamleneko
[16:43] <grawity> iamleneko: ubottu works like that.
[16:43] <docmax> ??????????? i cant edit the sudoers file with "sudo gedit /etc/sudoers" ?????
[16:43] <Pici> !usage | iamleneko
[16:43] <iamleneko> okey great
[16:43] <sipior> Olimpico: you're not going to make us guess the error message, are you?
[16:43] <grawity> docmax: /etc/sudoers is only meant to be edited with the 'visudo' command.
[16:43] <iamleneko> thanks guys
[16:44] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; hey it worked...but i didnt understand what happened
[16:44] <grawity> docmax: So its permissions are set to disallow write access (0400)
[16:44] <Mavs> is there a way to get gpu aided video acceleration on ubuntu?
[16:44] <iamleneko> oh is some of you impatient people had upgrade to the beta ?
[16:44] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: Either a corrupted filesystem, or  ... how did you mount it the first time, anyway?
[16:44] <PerryArmstrong> grawity, Out_Cold; thx for helping ,e
[16:44] <PerryArmstrong> *me
[16:44] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; it automounts
[16:44] <m0se5> grawity, I got the same error... rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(362) [sender=3.0.5] I'll echo the rsync line. rsync --human-readable --stats --progress --partial --checksum --compress --delete --delete-excluded --rsh="ssh -ax -p 2222" --exclude-from=/home/user/.rsync/excludes.txt --timeout=600 --archive --force /home/user/ user@192.168.0.10:/home/user/
[16:45] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: Using what exactly? GNOME's Nautilus? Xfce's thing? Something else?
[16:45] <docmax> grawity, ok thanks
[16:45] <lbt> hi - when I "adduser" a user they don't get sudo rights and can't shutdown the system - how do I give them that (properly) from the cli?
[16:45] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; nautilus
[16:45] <docmax> %sudo is below admin... i will check it now
[16:45] <grawity> lbt: Add them to the 'admin' group.
[16:45] <docmax> restarting linux
[16:45] <jrib> lbt: sudo adduser USERNAME admin
[16:46] <grawity> lbt: Remember that after you modify an user's group, the user must logout and log in again, for the group changes to apply.
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> lbt:  you could set up sudoers file to allow it.  or as a 'quick and dirty way' if you want them to use the 'shutdown' command. you could 'suid' the  shutdoen binary. but then ANYONE could run it and shutdown the system
[16:46] <Olimpico> Error! DKMS tree already contains: eeepc-laptop-20090415
[16:46] <Olimpico> You cannot add the same module/version combo more than once.
[16:46] <Olimpico> ERROR: Failed to add module.
[16:46] <Olimpico> dpkg: error processing eee-control (--configure):
[16:46] <Olimpico>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[16:46] <lbt> grawity: thanks - thought so but wanted to be sure that was the 'right' way :)
[16:46] <m0se5> lbt, usermod -aG admin username
[16:46] <Olimpico> Setting up libstdc++5 (1:3.3.6-17ubuntu1) ...
[16:46] <FloodBot1> Olimpico: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:46] <Olimpico> Errors were encountered while processing:
[16:46] <docmax> ok another question: can i remove ALL password questions in gnome?
[16:46] <grawity> lbt: Some consider usermod to be the 'right' way (see m0se5's message)
[16:46] <lbt> thanks - this is to setup many users on a lan
[16:46] <docmax> for example reconnecting to wlan
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> lbt:  depends on how much  access you want to allow them. :) youve gottn  like 5 suggestions  so far. heh
[16:46] <grawity> m0se5: I'll just PM you a snippet for /etc/ssh/config.
[16:47] <Olimpico> The error doesn really matter, I just want dpkg not to notice it any more, since the application works fine
[16:47] <lbt> and write some docs.... will man usermod
[16:47] <lbt> yeah - suid isn't it
[16:47] <lbt> I want to emulate a normal install
[16:47] <lbt> but I preseed the install
[16:47] <lbt> and adduser later
[16:47] <bobbob1016> How can I start each drive in a mdadm raid individually?  One is clicking, but mdadm --detail says each drive is fine.  The drives are under the 14day return policy, I just need to figure out which it is, so I can exchange it.
[16:47] <savage-> quick question
[16:48] <savage-> is there a way to write a sed command to replace something with a result of running a unix command?
[16:48] <savage-> I want to do: cat file | sed s/DATE_TOKEN/`date`
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> savage-:  proberly is.
[16:48] <savage-> or something like that
[16:48] <lbt> bobbob1016: smarctl -tlong <drive>
[16:48] <sipior> savage-: sure, pipe the output to a shell
[16:48] <savage-> but I want to replace itw ith the result of running the unix `date` command
[16:48] <lbt> also badblocks
[16:48] <m0se5> grawity, Thanks a bunch! way to think outside the box!
[16:48] <Dr_Willis>  savage-  use $(date) instead of backticks.. it makes it easier to read. :) for starteress
[16:48] <savage-> crap
[16:48] <lbt> oh
[16:48] <grawity> savage-: _Almost_ like you wrote
[16:48] <veggteppe> Anyone know how i format a drive, when im on a pure "command based" computer?. having a HDD issue, so can't boot up anything, so had to start in compability mode.
[16:48] <savage-> can you copy/paste that again
[16:48] <lbt> bobbob1016: sorry
[16:48] <savage-> I just did a /clear by accident
[16:48] <savage-> thnx
[16:48] <FloodBot1> savage-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <grawity> savage-: sed "s/DATE_TOKEN/$(date)/" file
[16:48] <lbt> bobbob1016: "one is clicking"
[16:49] <savage-> thanks!!!
[16:49] <h32Lg> hi everybody
[16:49] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; so according to the steps...i had to unmount it...create a new file system and then mount it again...but whats really running behind the scenes
[16:49] <lbt> bobbob1016: so use smartctl -a on each drive
[16:49] <Olimpico> Sorry, here the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/292451/
[16:49] <lbt> bobbob1016: and that will probably tell you
[16:49] <grawity> savage-: `date` works too, but $(date) is better.
[16:49] <savage-> thanks!!!
[16:49] <bobbob1016> lbt, What's the difference between -a and -tlong (I guess -tlong is long test)?
[16:49] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: Try this now. umount it again, unplug, plug back in, wait for it to automount, see if it's readonly or not.
[16:49] <Olimpico> But as I said, the error doesn't matter, I just want dpkg not to notice it.
[16:50] <resno> how do i issue a command from bash to a new terimanl instance?
[16:50] <lbt> bobbob1016: correct. -a is "all info"
[16:50] <intok> where can I get printer drivers for the canon pixma IP6600D?
[16:50] <LjL> resno: just type the name of your favorite terminal emulator, such as "xterm" or "gnome-terminal" (if that's what it's called, don't remember). might want to add & at the end to put it into the background
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> intok:  err.. i go tone of those...  they are built in to the defaults...
[16:51] <mnaines1> intok: Google the OpenPrinting database...Gutenprint drivers should be available for that printer
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> intok:  i just plug it in.. and it works...
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> intok:  what version of ubuntu you using?
[16:52] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; i am able to write files into it
[16:52] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: If it keeps working fine, then it was a corrupted filesystem. (FAT filesystems, including FAT32, are very unreliable. However, they're often used for speed and because they're easy to implement, as long as you don't annoy Micros~1 lawyers)
[16:52] <mnaines1> Dr_Willis: I have the Canon Pixma iP4500, but when I try to print photos, they're very grainy...No matter how many times I change the drivers, its still grainy
[16:52] <intok> Dr_Willis no it doesn't it only finds the driver for the IP6000D, and using that gets bad colors and no black channel
[16:52] <intok> Dr_Willis9.10 beta right now, but those are the results I got under 9.04
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> intok:  odd.. it  it prints the test pages fine here.  im on 9.10
[16:53] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; how can i prevent it from getting corrupted
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> intok:  let me check it again..
[16:53] <m0RrE> does anyone have a 9800gtx graphics card and use the hdmi adapter? it works but i can't get dts or dolby digital sound to work.. stereo is fine
[16:53] <grawity> PerryArmstrong: a) umount before unplugging, or b) use NTFS _and_ umount before unplugging.
[16:53] <bobbob1016> lbt,  Here's my smartctl -a output, the other drives said no errors, this one said "Passed" though http://pastebin.com/m386052a9
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> ip6600D  is what i got behind me.
[16:54] <PerryArmstrong> grawity; thxx...hey will catch up with you again
[16:54] <Olimpico> Nobody can help me??
[16:54] <str> hi everyone.. I'm using karmic now.. and the pcspeacker buzz is starting to drive me crazy ... anyone knows about it?
[16:54] <mnaines1> grawity: Is it a good thing to keep the drives unmounted when they're not in use?
[16:54] <bobbob1016> str, ask in ubuntu+1
[16:54] <bobbob1016> #ubuntu+1
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> Olimpico:  check the apt-get/apt/package manuals  may be the best thing to do.
[16:55] <str> bobbob1016, thank you
[16:55] <grawity> mnaines1: tbh, I don't see any point in doing that.
[16:55] <mnaines1> grawity: Security is one good reason
[16:55] <grawity> mnaines1: Details?
[16:56] <sipior> i'm curious myself...
[16:56] <intok> Dr_Willis thats the only thing mine prints right, everything else ails to print properly
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> intok:  printing a web page now...
[16:56] <mnaines1> grawity: For example, good security is plug-and-play hard drives that are secured physically when they're not in use
[16:56] <resno> LjL: it wont issue the comands from the bash command to the popped up termianl window
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> intok:  i rarely use the thing. :)
[16:56] <Enissay_> how can i rename a file of files? remove file1_81_XXX.avi file2_81_XXX.avi file3_81_XXX.avi ..... where XXX is the part to remove
[16:56] <Enissay_> i mean rename many files
[16:57] <intok> mnaines1 last I checked open printing they said to use a canon made japanesse driver but ythe link to the driver lead to a 404...
[16:57] <grawity> Enissay_: Try the 'rename' command.
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> intok:   the thing is all goofed up. file a bug i guess...  colors are 'inverted/negative' and  i get NO black text at all.
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> intok:  theres a lot of settingss to goof with also i saw.. but i dont have the time to play with them.,
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> intok:  trying the differnt 'color models' settings.. grying greyscale right now
[16:59] <pikustan> how can i hack my neightboughrs wlan? he's so annoying!
[16:59] <jana_> ave a question please i installed wine in order to install autocad on ubuntu
[16:59] <jana_> but its not working
[16:59] <intok> Dr_Willis same thing I get
[16:59] <ioka> hello guys
[16:59] <sipior> pikustan: go away.
[16:59] <jana_> can anyone help me please
[16:59] <jana_> i am new to linux
[16:59] <ioka> what is the root password for live session?
[16:59] <pikustan> sipion: -.-'
[17:00] <resno> ask! | jana_
[17:00] <intok> ioka .. there isn't one
[17:00] <resno> !ask | jana_
[17:00] <grawity> ioka: I don't think there's any. Log in as "ubuntu", use "sudo -s" to get root access.
[17:00] <ioka> I try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up and i get no such file or directory
[17:00] <ioka> wtf?
[17:00] <jana_> ok thank you
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> intok:  i really really HATE that canon printer.. i plan on NEVER buying another canon. this thing likes to think i got the ink carts in teh wrong slots.. whenthey are not. :(
[17:00] <gotunandan> jana_ : have you checked the wine app database on whether autocad runs well enough ?
[17:00] <jana_> i installed wine
[17:01] <jana_> but i dt know how to check if it runs well enough
[17:01] <MrElendig> jana_: my condolences
[17:01] <gotunandan> jana_: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[17:01] <jana_> gotunandan: what should i do with that link ?
[17:02] <ioka> yes I am root with sudo -s. however same error
[17:02] <sjokkis> hi. i just noticed that several folders in my home are automatically being synced to ubuntu one, without me having set this up myself. i'm not comfortable with this at all. how do i disable it?
[17:02] <ioka> so I can not start wlan0 in live session
[17:02] <intok> Dr_Willis yah, I got it so I could get decent prints direct from the camera
[17:03] <gotunandan> jana: visit the link and on the left hand side menu goto browse apps and see if autocad is listed on it and works well enough ?
[17:03] <amar> I am getting "your session lasted for less than 10 seconds......" error and then it goes back to Gnome login screen .... for the last 4 months.... no solution
[17:03] <jana_> gotunandan:ok thank u i will try now
[17:03] <ioka> or from ifup wlan0 I get Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0
[17:04] <sipior> ioka: is there even a driver loaded for your card?
[17:04] <docmax> grawity, WORKS! =)
[17:04] <Guest5568> i am stunned! someone named a chatroom after my nuck???cheers fellow Linux users.
[17:04] <ioka> I'm trying to start hardware drivers, nothing happens.I see wlan0 with ifconfig -a command
[17:04] <docmax> question: can i remove ALL password questions in gnome? (especially wlan auto-reconnection)
[17:04] <gotunandan> ioka: run $ sudo lshw  -C network , and check your network devices listed
[17:05] <F15h3r> Hey there, i am having little problem with my graphic card on 9.04, it worked fine till i installed fglrx-amdcccle (ati catalyst CC). After installation my system doesnt show  me desktop anymore ... Just some white lines on black. Can it be repaired somehow from live distro? i can access disk! tnx
[17:05] <sipior> ioka: and what does iwconfig say?
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> intok:  i found its cheaper to go to walmart or cvs and use their stuff :)  wife just had to have THIS printer.. and ive hated it since she boght it.
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> intok:  greyscale color mode = prints totally blank pages.
[17:06] <talntid> hi all. is there a gfs2 irc chat room?
[17:06] <ioka> iwconfig shows my card. lshw -C network shows disabled
[17:06] <uberspaced> what packages do I need to install before I can recompile an X video driver?
[17:07] <MrElendig> talntid: /q alis list *gfs*
[17:07] <jana_> gotunandan: Installing dotnet30 with winetricks will at least allow the setup to run, but net 3.5 is required for Autocad to install.
[17:07] <docmax> question: can i remove ALL password questions in gnome? (especially wlan auto-reconnection)
[17:07] <uberspaced> specifically: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[17:07] <MrElendig> docmax: paswordless keyring
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  the wan one is  being used by the  wallet - see applications -> acessories -> passwords    set the default wallet password to be blank. and it wont ask that one.. as for the others.. no idea
[17:08] <gotunandan> jana_: then you might have a problem, i'm afraid unless you want to try installing .net 3.5 ;)
[17:08] <docmax> MrElendig, i dont want an empty password, just no asking for a special user
[17:08] <jana_> gotunandan: What does not work:Installation of NET 3.5 SP1 (Required for Autocad to install
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  the wallet/key ring tool can accept an empty password. it will rember the other passwords.. it just wont ask for a initial unlock password at login
[17:09] <jana_> gotunandan: that means i cannot install it right?
[17:09] <MrElendig> docmax: hmm, set the keyring to remember you the, so that it only asks once per session?
[17:09] <ioka> maybe the live usb is been badly created.
[17:09] <MrElendig> ssthesthens
[17:09] <gotunandan> jana_: unfortunately yes :(
[17:09] <frenz> Bonjour!
[17:09] <jana_> gotunandan: thank u =)
[17:10] <docmax> MrElendig, where do i do this? i just want an wlan auto-connection when booting into gnome
[17:10] <gotunandan> jana_: the problem here lies with the fact that Autocad does not support GNU/Linux
[17:10] <ioka> if I try locate wlan0 should it find that file?
[17:10] <KristianRose> hey can anyone point me to a troubleshooting guide that might help me figure out why network manager  doesn't want to manage my wifi card?
[17:10] <gotunandan> jana_: hope you you keep using ubuntu though for other stuff/work
[17:10] <docmax> cause sometimes i have to reboot the pc remote
[17:10] <ioka> it does not find anything
[17:10] <docmax> and gnome has to connect automaticly, with no user input
[17:10] <pshr_> vista like sidebar in ubuntu possible or not ?
[17:10] <thedude42> docmax, if you can live without network manager, you can simply set up your wlan key information in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:10] <jana_> gotunandan: u think i might find a solution for autocad or helpless case?
[17:11] <ioka> did you check wireless in gui network manager?
[17:11] <gotunandan> KristianRose: remove any line indicating wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:11] <sipior> ioka: "wlan0" is a name attached by the kernel, there's no corresponding filesystem entry. (this isn't Plan 9)
[17:11] <ioka> if you do not check it it wont manage your card
[17:11] <dreamborn> I am running ubuntu 9.04 on one HDD and vista on another how do i move the bootloader from my vista HDD to the ubuntu one?
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> pshr_:  theres dozens of wayss to get 'widgits' on the desktop. You could use the google gadgets stuff if you wanted
[17:11] <gotunandan> jana_: might be a lost cause as far as i can tell :(
[17:12] <pshr_> Dr_Willis, i had a poor experience with google gadgets behind the proxy :)
[17:12] <KristianRose> ok but here's the weird thing.  12 hours ago, it was working.
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> pshr_:  i find all the desktop widgits useless....
[17:12] <ioka> so the b43 driver is loaded I just can not use ifconfig wlan0 up
[17:12] <Dr_Willis> pshr_:  opera also has some.
[17:12] <jana_> gotunandan: well at least i tried thank u have a good day
[17:12] <ioka> DAMN
[17:12] <pshr_> thanks Dr_Willis
[17:12] <KristianRose> wow seems i'm not the only one with broadcom issues
[17:13] <yoga> I tried to install lm-sensors by follow the the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto, however when sudo /etc/init.d/module-init-tools I get "Usage: /etc/init.d/module-init-tools COMMAND", it seems that nothing is inserted into the kernel, any idea?
[17:13] <ioka> I try the beta version again on the usb to see if it will be the same thing
[17:13] <gotunandan> KristianRose: i've had similar problems with network-manager as well, also you could check /etc/NetworkManager/nm-settings.conf and set managed=true
[17:13] <ReVoLt112> hi
[17:14] <KristianRose> gotunandan: thanks i'll take a look at that
[17:14] <gotunandan> KristianRose: If network-manager can detect your wireless device and is just not able to manage it, then it means that the driver is present, just that network-manager is refusing to configure it automatically
[17:14] <ioka> yes there is a managed=false.I'll change it to see if it will make any difference
[17:15] <gotunandan> jana_:  good day to you too !
[17:15] <MrElendig> yoga: /etc/init.d/module-init-tools start
[17:15] <iDangerMouse> Hi guys I need a big time help.... stuck really bad  I inserted my USB flash in my laptop and how do I detect it and format it ?
[17:16] <ioka> no same thing no file or directory
[17:16] <ioka> there should be a usb install or something
[17:16] <KristianRose> it's weird, because network manager was working with my wifi card without issue before not even 5 hours ago.  only thing that changed between now and then was i shut down my laptop and booted into vista.
[17:17] <iDangerMouse> anyone :( ?
[17:17] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse
[17:17] <dury> hi there channel :)
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  you can use 'sudo fdisk -l' or 'dmesg' to see what devioce the thing is.. then use sudo mkfs.XXXX /dev/devicename   to format it.. or use gparted for a gui way to find/format it
[17:17] <iDangerMouse> Yes uberspaced ?
[17:17] <uberspaced> what I do is open up a terminal with "ls /dev |grep sd"
[17:17] <gotunandan> KristianRose: yes that is a weird problem, rebooting did cause the same problem on my laptop as well
[17:17] <uberspaced> and plug the device in
[17:17] <genii> iDangerMouse: If it was the last thing you plugged into the USB... dmesg|tail       should tell you the drive designation (like sdb sdc or so). Then you can partition it with fdisk or gparted and then format it with mkfs.ext3  (or ext4 or whatever)
[17:18] <uberspaced> a new one should pop up if it's recognized.
[17:18] <iDangerMouse> Drm:i915_getparam error
[17:18] <iDangerMouse> that showed up
[17:19] <MrElendig> iDangerMouse: should be more than that in dmesg after you plugged it in
[17:19] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, open up a terminal.
[17:19] <iDangerMouse> Opened it
[17:19] <uberspaced> run: watch "ls /dev |grep sd"
[17:19] <gotunandan> KristianRose: I think setting managed=true in nm-settings.conf should fix it and as I said earlier remove and mention of wlan0 (or wlan1 , if that is the name of your wireless device) in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:19] <uberspaced> plug in your usb stick, or remove it and then plug it in
[17:19] <uberspaced> and it should show up.
[17:20] <ioka> I'll format the usb and try it again.It does not star the install program from the desktop.
[17:20] <gotunandan> KristianRose: sorry the file is /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
[17:20] <iDangerMouse> uberspaced:  nop
[17:20] <iDangerMouse> It hangs on windows so i thought i ll format it via Ubuntu
[17:20] <KristianRose> gotunandan: so that's [ifupdown] managed =true ?
[17:20] <dury> mmm... could anyone suggest me an application to create a DVD slideshow with photos
[17:21] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  you can use gparted. or 'sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/DEVICENAME'  for fat32 formating.
[17:21] <F15h3r> Hey, one question: i am having some troubles with graphics on 9.04, it worked good till i installed fglrx-amdcccle (ati catalyst CC) - to setup brightness... After installation my system didnt show  me desktop - Just some lines on black. Can i uninstall or undo this? i CAN access disk! plz for answers!
[17:22] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, if the device doesn't show up
[17:22] <uberspaced> it may be hosed.
[17:22] <uberspaced> do any /dev/sd devices show up when you run:       watch "ls /dev |grep sd"
[17:22] <uberspaced> ?
[17:22] <gotunandan> KristianRose: yes and restart after commenting out stuff like auto wlan0 and/or iface wlan0 inet static in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:22] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  ive seen flash drives with that U3 stuff - really confuse linux also.
[17:23] <subone> When I fullscreen anything it mirrors it onto my other monitor even though I have both set up to display seperately not mirrored. The other monitor appears scrambled and mixed up a little though. Any ideas what could cause this garbling of the second, albeit unexpected, image? Here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/m5093c218
[17:23] <zee2009> hello all...if anyone could kindly assist: dhclient command no longer connects me to internet, ever since i did a partial upgrade of jaunty...
[17:24] <zee2009> "No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping."
[17:24] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis and uberspaced  I did something showed in terminal now dunno what to do the rest :)
[17:24] <zee2009> currently using XP to get online
[17:25] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, fdisk -l   will show you if the device contains a mountable partition.
[17:25] <uberspaced> what device did it show up as?
[17:25] <iDangerMouse> 918.777601 sd 4:0:0:0 showing the device
[17:25] <iDangerMouse> how do I format it now ?
[17:25] <KristianRose> gotunandan: ok so stupid question (i feel like i should know this), how do i comment it out?
[17:25] <preved_medvedik> Hello
[17:25] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, what device did it show up as?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  run dmesg again.. the buttom messages will change as the device is seen/configured
[17:25] <uberspaced> /dev/sdc ?
[17:25] <gotunandan> KristianRose: use # before that line
[17:25] <iDangerMouse> Write protect is off mode sense: 23 00 00 assuming drive cache:write through hardware secrots  4 gb/3.74
[17:26] <iDangerMouse> sd attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
[17:26] <preved_medvedik2> Goodby!
[17:27] <KristianRose> gotunandan: ok like this? http://pastebin.com/d1272fcb1
[17:27] <gotunandan> KristianRose: i mean prefix the line with # the ones that you want to comment
[17:28] <CSD_G4> :O
[17:28] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis:  thats what it showed me
[17:28] <iDangerMouse> uberspaced:  odd isnt it ?
[17:28] <Synaptic> hello everyone
[17:28] <runester> hello ... quick Ubuntu logon question ...
[17:28] <gotunandan> KristianRose: is eth1 your lan interface
[17:28] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, RUN:
[17:28] <zee2009> anyone available to help out with my dhclient question?
[17:28] <chriz_> hi there! I have a problem. My "Applications" manù is suddendly empty. Any idea?
[17:28] <gotunandan> KristianRose: it seems ok
[17:28] <uberspaced> watch "ls /dev/ |grep sd"
[17:29] <docmax> i have real problems with the new grub2.. is there any good documentation???
[17:29] <uberspaced> what device is the usb stick showing up as?!
[17:29] <docmax> f.e. i make a grub-mkconfig
[17:29] <Synaptic> Anyone successfully get multiple sound cards to work at the same time? I have four sound cards I want to use on the same box - each playing their own audio.
[17:29] <docmax> and it writes /dev/sda2, although its not existing...
[17:29] <iDangerMouse> bash:run command not found
[17:30] <KristianRose> gotunandan: no.  eth1 was my wireless when i was using the broadcom STA driver
[17:30] <gotunandan> docmax: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1285897
[17:30] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, send back the EXACT command you think I want you to run.
[17:30] <genii> Hm. "sg1" device would be a cdrom and not a usb storage stick
[17:31] <docmax> gotunandan, very good! thanks
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  check more of the lines. thers some mention of /dev/sdXX in one of the lines somewhere.
[17:31] <iDangerMouse> watch "Ls /dev/|grep sd"
[17:31] <JLogic> Does anyone have XP with OpenFire?
[17:31] <iDangerMouse> it gave a me a page
[17:31] <gotunandan> KristianRose: then comment that out as well
[17:31] <uberspaced> IN A TERMINAL
[17:31] <uberspaced> RUN:
[17:31] <uberspaced> watch "ls /dev/ |grep sd"
[17:31] <iDangerMouse> i know i did that
[17:31] <runester> I need to log into a laptop running Ubuntu and the employee who left, only left the root password. How do I log on if I _ONLY_ have the root password and no others?
[17:31] <uberspaced> IT"S CASE SENSITIVE.
[17:31] <FloodBot1> uberspaced: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> genii:  if the thing has the 'u3' feature. it will show up as a SDXX and a cdrom.
[17:31] <uberspaced> wow.
[17:31] <genii> JLogic: Ask questions about Windows/XP/Vista etc in ##windows channel please
[17:32] <iDangerMouse> uberspaced: shows every 2.0: ls /dev/|grep sd
[17:32] <iDangerMouse> uberspaced: sda sda1 sda2 sda5 sdb sdb1
[17:32] <Synaptic> Anyone successfully get multiple sound cards to work at the same time? I have four sound cards I want to use on the same box - each playing their own audio.
[17:32] <chriz_> hi there! I have a problem. My "Applications" manù is suddendly empty. Any idea?
[17:32] <uberspaced> GOOD
[17:32] <genii> Dr_Willis: Aaaah
[17:32] <uberspaced> now.  remove the stick, wait for something to disappear
[17:32] <KristianRose> gotunandan: ok done.  restart now and hope it works?
[17:32] <JLogic> genii: It is not running on windows
[17:32] <iDangerMouse> uberspaced:  ok
[17:32] <uberspaced> and plug it back in.  what device goes away?
[17:33] <iDangerMouse> sdb sdb1
[17:33] <gotunandan> KristianRose: yes restart, hope so too :)
[17:33] <zee2009> No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. -- how can i fix this and have my interwebs back...argh. oh well, back to google, i guess
[17:33] <gotunandan> docmax: also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> uberspaced:  thats an amuseing use of watch. :)   too bad i see like 20 sd* entries.. and saw the list change.. but dident see what one got added. :)
[17:33] <KristianRose> gotunandan: aight thanks for the help.  back in a few.
[17:33] <uberspaced> Dr_Willis, :-D
[17:33] <docmax> gotunandan, VERY GOOD! exactly what i was searching, thanks
[17:34] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, now, read up on fdisk and throwing file systems on devices.
[17:34] <iDangerMouse> uberspaced:  thats what it showed sdb sdb1
[17:34] <uberspaced> yeah.
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  in dmesg i get lines line the following....
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> [10642.173141] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdi] Assuming drive cache: write through
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> [10642.173153]  sdi: sdi1
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> my device is 'sdi1'
[17:34] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, so, read up on partitions, fdisk and filesystems.
[17:34] <uberspaced> simplest one for you will probably be some sort of mkfs.fat or some crap
[17:34] <pw-toxic_> hi, does anyone know how i can use two grafic drivers at the same time? i want to set up 3 displays, while my PCI-E grafic card is an NVIDIA GTX260 and my onboard IGP is an radeon 3200
[17:34] <Otacon22> Why httptunnel permit just 1 session on the tunnel?
[17:34] <iDangerMouse> fdisk /dev/sdc for third scsi disk
[17:35] <uberspaced> but I don't know what one puts a fat16 or fat32 partition or whatever.
[17:35] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, fdisk -l will show you if you can mount that partition.
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> mkfs.vfat - normally works for me.
[17:35] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, ^^
[17:35] <uberspaced> mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> with a sudo of course. :)
[17:35] <grawity> Why not mkfs.ntfs? :)
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> and be SURE SURE SURE it is sdc1
[17:36] <iDangerMouse> wait wait wait
[17:36]  * Dr_Willis sticks a flash drive in grawity 's ear.
[17:36] <uberspaced> Now
[17:36] <iDangerMouse> fdisk -l didnt show anything
[17:36] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, run it as root
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  put sudo befor it.
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> sudo fdisk -l
[17:36] <iDangerMouse> ok
[17:36] <uberspaced> can somebody tell me what else would be needed to recompile some intel graphic grivers from X?!
[17:36] <KristianRose> gotunandan: success!  that fixed it!
[17:36] <uberspaced> *for X
[17:36] <grawity> Dr_Willis: My pendrive has NTFS.
[17:37]  * gotunandan thumbs up to KristianRose 
[17:37] <iDangerMouse> uberspaced:  mkfs.fat/dev/sdc1 didnt work
[17:37] <ikonia> iDangerMouse: need a space
[17:37] <KristianRose> gotunandan: thank you for helping me with that! =)
[17:37] <ikonia> iDangerMouse: and sudo
[17:37]  * gotunandan is glad to be of help 
[17:38] <iDangerMouse> nop command not found
[17:38] <iDangerMouse> sudo mxfs.vfat/dev/sda1
[17:38] <gotunandan> KristianRose: lucky (or not so lucky) that had faced a similar problem with wireless connections using network-manager
[17:38] <ikonia> iDangerMouse: mkfs.vat
[17:38] <iDangerMouse> ok
[17:39] <grawity> mkfs.vfat ...
[17:39] <Odin-> Question: How can I force 9.10 (beta) LiveCD to use VESA instead of trying to autodetect (in which case it chooses a fucked up driver)?
[17:39] <gotunandan> KristianRose: now that the wireless drivers for broadcom-sta are present, it should run ok, i guess
[17:39] <iDangerMouse> command not found
[17:39] <wildc4rd> evening all
[17:39] <ikonia> iDangerMouse: it's in /sbin
[17:39] <iDangerMouse> wait got it
[17:40] <ikonia> grawity: thank you, typo
[17:40] <iDangerMouse> cotaints a mounted file system
[17:40] <BlackDesign> Is er een commando in de shell die automatisch een paswoord genereert?
[17:40] <ikonia> iDangerMouse: you need to unmount it too
[17:40] <BlackDesign> sorry wrong channel :)
[17:40] <iDangerMouse> ikonia:  how :(
[17:40] <ikonia> iDangerMouse: sudo umount
[17:40] <uberspaced> Odin-, make a custom xorg.conf file
[17:40] <uberspaced> put it in /etc/X11/
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  or if it has an icon on the desktop. right click.  Unmoint
[17:41] <KristianRose> gotunandan: yea i had no issues with the  drivers earlier.  it's just that it would give me "device not managed" after a random reboot that had me puzzled
[17:41] <uberspaced> it's pretty straight forward
[17:41] <joaopinto> ! de | BlackDesign
[17:41] <ioka> KristianRose does your card now work?
[17:41] <iDangerMouse> nop thats the problem
[17:41] <iDangerMouse> dosent show
[17:41] <gotunandan> KristianRose: hmm, which version of ubuntu are you using currently ?
[17:41] <iDangerMouse> anything on desk top
[17:41] <Odin-> uberspaced: You *did* notice the LiveCD portion, didn't you?
[17:41] <uberspaced> Odin-, haha.  nope.
[17:41] <BlackDesign> ubottu: Just had the wrong window opened when I asked the question ;) It wasn't german... it was dutch :) Thx anyway
[17:41] <uberspaced> Odin-, copy the live cd ISO to a drive
[17:42] <gotunandan> ioka: what is the problem you are facing currently ?
[17:42] <KristianRose> ioka: using it right now =b
[17:42] <uberspaced> put a custom xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/
[17:42] <Odin-> uberspaced: Believe me, I've been messing with X since before there was Ubuntu. 8)
[17:42] <uberspaced> reburn the iso.
[17:42] <KristianRose> gotunandan: jaunty
[17:42] <ioka> I could not bring wlan0 up
[17:42] <iDangerMouse> ioka:  how about sudo fdisk /dev/sda1
[17:42] <uberspaced> Odin-, well, if it's a live CD issue, I know nothing of that :-/
[17:42] <Odin-> But it seems silly that 'safe graphics mode' or whatever it is still does the autodetect.
[17:42] <ioka> so I decided to reformat the usb drive and use the beta 9.10 ubuntu
[17:43] <uberspaced> Odin-, are you just trying to install?
[17:43] <ioka> right now it is preparing the drive
[17:43] <lucas12511> salut
[17:43] <gotunandan> ioka: what does network-manager tell you ? unmanaged,  regarding wireless network ?
[17:43] <lucas12511> il y a des francais
[17:43] <s0101> I want to format my hd using dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda for the first hard, drive after the format can i just reinstall ubuntu from usb?
[17:43] <gotunandan> KristianRose: do you have an intel graphics card ?
[17:43] <Odin-> uberspaced: Yes. And the driver it autodetects is fried enough to allow only 640x480.
[17:43] <ioka> It showed x on the wifi card
[17:43] <uberspaced> lucas12511, ce'st possible
[17:43] <KristianRose> are the issues with the broadcom cards something that's only cropping up on systems that were originally windows?
[17:43] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis:  and uberspaced  i did sudo fdisk /dva/sda1
[17:43] <comfnumb> How do I mount an .iso file?
[17:43] <lucas12511> salut sava
[17:43] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, NO.
[17:43] <uberspaced> DONT DO THAT.
[17:44] <sPiNe> spekunzi dooche?
[17:44] <Odin-> uberspaced: If all else fails, go for the alternative disc, I know. Just wondering if there's a way to avoid that sillyness. :p
[17:44] <ktebit>  i'm trying to edit the resolution on ubuntu running in virtualbox. i can't seem to find xorg.conf. it's not in /etc/X11/, anyone know what the problem may be?
[17:44] <KristianRose> gotunandan: yes, unfortunately.  only thing that's keeping this laptop from being a solid gaming machine.
[17:44] <uberspaced> Odin-, use the mini.iso
[17:44] <uberspaced> and install from network.  It's the only way to fry.
[17:44] <gotunandan> ioka: does $ ifconfig list your wireless device ?
[17:44] <iDangerMouse> ok
[17:44] <ktebit> Anyone?
[17:44] <lucas12511> salut les francais
[17:44] <s0101> is it safe because i will give this laptop for charity
[17:44] <ioka> ifconfig -a list it
[17:44] <ioka> ifconfig no
[17:45] <pshr_> !rss
[17:45] <genii> !fr | lucas12511
[17:45] <pshr_> any gnome rss readers ????
[17:45] <iDangerMouse> What do I do uberspaced ?
[17:45] <theadmin> pshr_ it's Ubuntu support, not GNOME one
[17:45] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, READ.
[17:45] <gotunandan> KristianRose: if you want, you could try upgrading to karmic when the RC is out ? I've been running karmic since alpha3 and has been pretty good for me, although i still use hardy as my main work system
[17:45] <iDangerMouse> I have
[17:45] <iDangerMouse> I dont get it
[17:45] <pranav_> Hey, does someone know where does thunar, mousepad and other installed applications store their icon or image files ?
[17:45] <pshr_> Any gnome rss readers for ubuntu ?
[17:46] <gotunandan> KristianRose: i too have an intel GM965
[17:46] <genii> pranav_: You might want to ask in #xubuntu , those are XFCE apps
[17:46] <gotunandan> pshr: liferea feed reader
[17:46] <theadmin> pshr_ Ah. There is... Wait, i saw one somewhere.
[17:46] <ktebit>  i'm trying to edit the resolution on ubuntu running in virtualbox. i can't seem to find xorg.conf. it's not in /etc/X11/, anyone know what the problem may be?
[17:46] <gotunandan> !liferea | pshr_
[17:46] <pshr_> i have tried akregator.. but i use much of gnome.. and installing KDE base just for single app is... awe..
[17:46] <gotunandan> !liferea
[17:46] <s0101> is it safe to use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda for the first hard drive ?
[17:46] <IdleOne> !info liferea
[17:47] <pshr_> thanks gotunandan IdleOne theadmin
[17:47] <KristianRose> gotunandan: i was planning on doing that.
[17:47] <grawity> s0101: If you want to kill the data on /dev/hda, sure. But why do you need to do that, anyway?
[17:47] <theadmin> pshr_ Okay, you can try BLAM RSS Reader
[17:47] <iDangerMouse> ioka: mkfs.fvat /dev/sda1 dosent work
[17:47] <iDangerMouse> :(
[17:47] <pranav_> genii, ok where is icon files stored in ubuntu(jaunty) of installed applications ?
[17:47] <uberspaced> iDangerMouse, who the hell told you to run it on /dev/sda?!
[17:47] <ktebit> Guys?
[17:47] <s0101> I give this laptop away for charity
[17:47] <ktebit> Help?
[17:47] <uberspaced> you want to run it on the first partition of your usb stick.
[17:47] <KristianRose> gotunandan: what's the make/model of your system?
[17:47] <theadmin> ktebit: Sorry, we can't always help.
[17:47] <ioka> I've seen some people on the net when they install ubuntu to make not only / root mounting point , but also /home mounting point.What difference does making a /home mounting pointing make?
[17:48] <iDangerMouse> ok
[17:48] <ktebit> ubuntu doesnt create a xorg.conf ?
[17:48] <dinamizador> dflñmlc,
[17:48] <dinamizador> ds,ñl,cls,dfc
[17:48] <dinamizador> pppppd
[17:48] <comfnumb> How do i mount an .iso file?
[17:48] <dinamizador> quien eres
[17:48] <grawity> ktebit: Latest releases of X.org have an "autodetection" feature built-in.
[17:48] <s0101> is it posible to recover after dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda ?
[17:48] <grawity> comfnumb: mount -o loop file.iso /mnt
[17:48] <dinamizador> hello
[17:48] <genii> pranav_: Usually somewhere like /usr/share/icons/gnome
[17:48] <dinamizador> fuck you
[17:48] <iDangerMouse> sudo fkdisk /dev/sda mks.vat ?
[17:49] <ktebit> grawity: what would I do in this case?
[17:49] <pshr_> !language | dinamizador
[17:49] <gotunandan> KristianRose: acer 5920 3GB ram, T5550 core2 duo 1.8GHz 2MB L2 cache, 320 GB hdd and intel GM965 graphics and luckily a intel 945 wireless card :)
[17:49] <theadmin> ktebit: It does, in those places: http://paste.ubuntu.com/292494/
[17:49] <yoga> How do I know if I am running 32 or 64 bit version of Linux?  I am on an Intel box.
[17:49] <ioka> iDangerMouse what did you mean?
[17:49] <grawity> s0101: Did you overwrite the entire drive or just a part of it?
[17:49] <grawity> s0101: Is it a magnetic drive or a SSD?
[17:49] <s0101> I havent done it yet
[17:49] <mbjohn> ioka: I keep my /home partition separate on other non-ubuntu workstations because, if, for whatever reason, I need to do a clean install, I can do so without losing the stuff in my home directories
[17:49] <gotunandan> KristianRose: and i have winXP :P and fedora 11 installed as well apart from hardy and karmic
[17:49] <ktebit> grawity: Well it doesn't autodetect the resolution i need so i need to edit something
[17:49] <pshr_> okie.. its been so long since i have defragmented by drives... the question is how to ?
[17:49] <s0101> how can i check that?
[17:49] <grawity> ./cookie > genii
[17:49] <iDangerMouse> ioka: i dont get how to format my usb memory stick dosent show up on desktop :( i am new to linux
[17:49] <bastid_raZor> yoga: uname -m
[17:49] <gotunandan> KristianRose: yours ?
[17:49] <ioka> I see
[17:50] <pranav_> ktebit: I created it using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh xserver-xorg just today to set my default resolution
[17:50] <theadmin> By the way, can someone over here help me in compiling ClanLib 1.0? It gives many errors
[17:50] <s0101> Its a dell laptop iam not sure about the hd
[17:50] <genii> grawity: Not enough caffeine yet today, had the arguments reversed in my kick :)
[17:50] <ioka> I'm also new to linux .Some else has been helping you , not me
[17:50] <ktebit> genii, grawity: what do you syggest please sirs?
[17:50] <yoga> bastid_raZor: What is i686 means?
[17:50] <bastid_raZor> yoga: you are running 32bit Ubuntu
[17:50] <grawity> s0101: There are some "data recovery" companies that can recover data if you have overwritten it with a single pass.
[17:51]  * iDangerMouse is lost no clue what to do
[17:51] <ntsasng> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[17:51] <ntsasng> bad command
[17:51] <ioka> mbjohn 10x for the info
[17:51] <ntsasng> ?????
[17:51] <s0101> what is the best way for a safe format?
[17:51] <pshr_> okie.. its been so long since i have defragmented by drives... the question is how to ?
[17:51] <iDangerMouse> uberspaced:  i am completely lost :(
[17:52] <grawity> pshr_: Usually, you don't need to defragment ext3 partitions. They just don't fragment much.
[17:52] <yoga> bastid_raZor: Thanks.
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> s0101:  you mean 'secure deletion' ?
[17:52] <s0101> secure wipe
[17:52] <pshr_> how about ext4 ?
[17:52] <s0101> and delete
[17:52] <grawity> s0101: shred -vzn 3 /dev/foo
[17:52] <Chousuke> pshr_: one way to do it is to move all your data off the drive, then back
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> s0101:  theres tools to do that
[17:52] <grawity> pshr_: Same.
[17:52] <pshr_> thanks fellas
[17:52] <ktebit> pls guys
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> s0101:  depends on how paranoid you want to be. :)
[17:52] <Chousuke> pshr_: I think there's an ext2 defrag tool though.
[17:53] <ktebit> I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh xserver-xorg
[17:53] <ktebit> that didnt do nothing
[17:53] <pshr_> Chousuke, I've got ext4 :)
[17:53] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis: could you help me from the beginning step by step ?
[17:53] <Chousuke> pshr_: you can mount ext3 as ext2 so you... right.
[17:53] <s0101> shred -vzn 3 /dev/foo    is this for the wipe? is it the best wipe?
[17:53] <theadmin> Chousuke: Nobody uses ext2 these days. Besides, EXT does NOT need defragmenting at all.
[17:53] <Chousuke> theadmin: that's not true :)
[17:53] <Chousuke> theadmin: all filesystems fragment.
[17:53] <grawity> theadmin: ext _does_ get fragmented - just not as much.
[17:54] <theadmin> grawity: Well, yes, and there are unfortunately no defrag tools
[17:54] <Chousuke> for ext4 they're planning an online defragmentation tool
[17:54] <ktebit> I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh xserver-xorg
[17:54] <genii> ktebit: eliminate the first instance of "xserver-xorg" in that command, and use -plow
[17:54] <hikenboot> greetings, setting up a system for a friend he has  emachine with an intel corp 92945G/GZ video card its using the i915 drive as far as i can tell is there a better one that supports opengl that I should be using?
[17:54] <ktebit> that didnt do nothing
[17:54] <Chousuke> but it's not done yet.
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  with what?
[17:54] <theadmin> By the way, just how on earth to they know the EXACT release date of next Ubuntu?
[17:54] <ktebit> genii: how would it be written?
[17:54] <djtoast> Hi looking to do a MB and CPU upgrade, anyone has suggestions (Looking at quad core) I wonder if the 65w cpus vs 140ws mkes a big diff
[17:54] <Chousuke> theadmin: they plan it? :/
[17:54] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis: How to format my USB Stick that dosent show up on on desktop but shows up on dmesg|tail
[17:54] <joaopinto> theadmin, because it's predefined ?
[17:55] <genii> ktebit: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[17:55] <DrNick_> i'm fairly sure they just set a realease data and try and stick to it.
[17:55] <s0101> 16 days to go for the new ubuntu
[17:55] <KristianRose> gotunandan: Dell XPS M1210, Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz, 4GB RAM, 128 GB SSD, Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Minicard, Intel 945GM Graphics Controller
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  on the desktop or not dosent matter.. find its device name  and use 'sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/DEVICENAME' and its formated.
[17:55] <hlfshell> My wacom tablet worked perfectly up until the most recent update. Has anyone else heard of issues being raised ,and how to fix them, with wacom tablets?
[17:55] <genii> ktebit: The areas which you don't want modified, hit Enter for the default values. Careful here.
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  or use 'gksudo gparted /dev/devicename' (well just like /dev/sdb for gparted, not /dev/sdb1)
[17:56] <runester> apparently I just needed to reboot into "recovery mode", logon as root, create a new user account ('adduser') and then reboot into the GUI. Thanks! (to me ...)
[17:56] <ntsasng> HI ! all
[17:56] <gotunandan> KristianRose: wow 128 GB SSD is really great, have you noticed the faster boot up times due to the SSD ?
[17:56] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis: the device name is Attached scsi generic sg 1 type 0 that one ?
[17:56] <ktebit> genii:   same deal, doesn't do anything at the terminal just brings me back to $
[17:57] <KristianRose> gotunandan: definately.  Vista boots quick, and Ubuntu is damn near instant after the boot loader.
[17:57] <ktebit> genii: that is my oroginal question: i'm trying to edit the resolution on ubuntu running in virtualbox. i can't seem to find xorg.conf. it's not in /etc/X11/, anyone know what the problem may be?
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  thats not the device NAME..  /dev/DEVICENAME is the name.. check with 'sudo fdisk -l'
[17:57] <ntsasng> i'm typing " sudo apt-get insatll chromium-browser" it not run
[17:57] <ntsasng> :(
[17:57] <genii> ktebit: There no longer IS any xorg.conf
[17:57] <iDangerMouse> ok Dr_Willis
[17:57] <Out_Cold> ktebit, try switching the size using xrandr
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  or as i showed earlier.... (2 lines from dmesg)
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> 10642.173141] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdi] Assuming drive cache: write through
[17:57] <ktebit> genii: what to do then?
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> [10642.173153]  sdi: sdi1
[17:57] <ktebit> genii: ctrl a lt +- doesn't work, i'll try xrandr
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> shows that my devie is sdi and the partiion  is 'sdi1'
[17:58] <KristianRose> gotunandan: had a 80 GB 5600rpm HDD before, so it's a marked improvement.  unfortunately i can't take full advantage of the SSD since it's a SATA2 and i have a SATA1 controller
[17:58] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis:  yep sdb1
[17:58] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis:  i put that in devicename then
[17:59] <gotunandan> KristianRose: are you on identi.ca or twitter ?
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  sudo mkfs.vfat  /dev/sdb1
[17:59] <iDangerMouse> ok
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  if you are SURE its sdb1
[17:59] <KristianRose> gotunandan: nope
[17:59] <ktebit> so?
[17:59] <iDangerMouse> thanks Dr_Willis  a zillion
[17:59] <kazagistar> is there any way to set up different locations for apt-get, so it uses different mirrors depending on where I am at?
[17:59] <guntbert_> !ot | gotunandan
[17:59] <ktebit> Ideas?
[17:59] <elliotbeken3> hack elliotbeken.dyndns.org
[17:59] <ktebit> suggestions? advices?
[18:00] <guntbert_> elliotbeken3: not here please
[18:00] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis:  the mkfs.vfat dosent work trying the other command
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  clarify 'dosent work'
[18:00] <elliotbeken3> hack elliotbeken.dyndns.org
[18:00] <guntbert_> elliotbeken3: please STOP
[18:00] <JoeNu2Linux> is there a repair install (like in windows) my network disappeared
[18:00] <archiebenedict> whats the difference between debian unstable and ubuntu?
[18:01] <genii> A lot
[18:01] <grawity> archiebenedict: Ubuntu is more like 'stable'
[18:02] <JoeNu2Linux> or, can someone help me fix / reinstall the network part?
[18:02] <dury> is there an application to make a dvd slide show photos?
[18:03] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis: thanks a zillion it worked!!
[18:03] <gotunandan> KristianRose: i figured out the network-manager issues from this bug report bug #280417
[18:03] <Farrel> Guys i need to connect java channel?
[18:03] <elliotbeken3> g
[18:03] <Farrel> how is that ? and how can I register?
[18:03] <ashutosh> hi can some tell me some bandwidth monitering tool in ubuntu
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> Farrel:  /msg nickserv help and read the directions
[18:04] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis:  if you are not tired can I ask you 2 more questions ?
[18:04] <gotunandan> bug 280417
[18:04] <question> hi
[18:05] <JoeNu2Linux> can someone help me fix my network?
[18:05] <j1mp492> How do i make a program to start with the computer in the tray?
[18:05] <KristianRose> gotunandan: ah, cool.  that'll be good information if i have this crop up again.
[18:06] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:  go for it.
[18:06] <Aurus> elliotbeken3 is spamming many many channels...
[18:07] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis:  i have acer aspire one I cant get internal mic working even with alsamixer command changed settings and everything nothing... also card reader dosent work
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> !info shred
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:   theres a guide/thread on the AAO. I think the mic on mine worked.. but the wife took it. so i cant test it.
[18:08] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis: I got bios 3308 tweaks didnt work for me.
[18:08] <epple> who has about 10mbit of upload here
[18:08] <ioka> now I'm booting with the usb 9.10 beta ubuntu to see if I can make wlan0 up
[18:09] <docmax> hi, i deleted my /dev/sda2 partition and the order is messed up (sda1 sda3 sda4)... can i fix it to sda1 sda2 sda3?
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> docmax:   You resized the others to fill in the gap?
[18:10] <KristianRose> gotunandan: is this a problem that's only popping up on older systems that were originally shipped with windows?
[18:10] <kazagistar> docmax: any particular reason? you could try not looking at it and pretending it is in order :P
[18:11] <JoeNu2Linux> will upgrading to the beta  fix my network? i didn't break it must have been an update, or a glitch
[18:11] <docmax> Dr_Willis, i just deleted sda2 and resized sda3
[18:11] <docmax> now i want a correct order
[18:12] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis: What you suggest ?
[18:12] <gotunandan> KristianRose: if you mean the network-manager issue, no I doubt it has anything to do with windows at all, just a funny quirk of the network-manager since intrepid
[18:12] <raven_> :Q
[18:12] <gotunandan> KristianRose: there is another app you could use for network management called wicd
[18:12] <gotunandan> !info wicd
[18:13] <ioka> what is the root password for live session, guys I can not activate b43 driver without it
[18:13] <IdleOne> there is no root password
[18:13] <IdleOne> use sudo
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  then  you got no sda2 :)  it dosent really matter..
[18:13] <Out_Cold> ioka, you can sudo -i
[18:14] <mordof> trying to watch a tv episode - and it's flashing oddly (black flashes in totem, white in mplayer)  any ideas how i could fix this? or is it possible it's just part of the episode
[18:14] <gotunandan> ioka: there isnt any root password, just you sudo it should work ?
[18:14] <docmax> Dr_Willis, i have some hardlinks to sda2 =(
[18:14] <mordof> comments on the torrent said it was good quality, no mention of flashing
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:   thers so many tweaks/ssites with tips on using the AAO's
[18:14] <iDangerMouse> http://aspireonezg5.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/howto/
[18:14] <iDangerMouse> is the best but mic dosent work :(
[18:14] <j1mp492> I got a program that is in the tray, but i want it to start in the tray when i log in. i tried to do it but its just "popup" but i want it to stay in the tray.. what should i do?
[18:14] <ioka> it still wants root password to activate b43 in gui
[18:14] <KristianRose> gotunandan: i'm just wondering because i was looking at getting a dell mini 10v with ubuntu for my friend, so i'm just wondering if it's something that i'd have to expect to fix from time to time.
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  Err.. a hardlink cant go across filesystems...   a softlink can point to a different location..   clarify what you mean..
[18:15] <bastid_raZor> mordof: possibly turn compiz off then try again
[18:15]  * Dr_Willis thinks that hard links CANT go across filesystems...
[18:15] <mordof> bastid_raZor: had just thought of that. just gonna turn the video playback off and see what happens
[18:15] <vingian> hey anyone here know how to identify the process thats burning through my HDD?
[18:15] <docmax> Dr_Willis, for ex. /etc/fstab ... there are /dev/sda2 entries
[18:15] <Out_Cold> ioka, load the app with gksu
[18:15] <gotunandan> KristianRose: ideally no, you really should not have to deal with this, acc to the bug report though, the managed=true bit seems to set it right in most cases
[18:16] <ioka> is there a way to activate in in terminal because with sudo -s or sudo -i I can become root
[18:16] <Dr_Willis>  docmax  edit fstab then..  remove the lines accessing sda2.. since you no longer have a sda2
[18:16] <docmax> Dr_Willis, also i want to have everything in order.... sda1 2 3 4 ....
[18:16] <grawity> ioka: 'passwd root'
[18:16] <mordof> bastid_raZor: that didn't work -.- is it still possible that turning off compiz completely would solve it?
[18:16] <docmax> Dr_Willis, isnt it possible to "rename" sda3 to sda2?
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  order dosent matter.. its not goint to make it faster.. if you want them in order.. backup/restore all data I guess..
[18:16] <gotunandan> docmax: hard links cannot go across partitions, pretty sure of that
[18:16] <KristianRose> gotunandan: ok.  have to wonder if the dell tech support knows about that fix lol.
[18:16] <docmax> hav i to reinstall ubuntu?
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  No its not possile to 'rename' them
[18:16] <oroz> could someone help me turn off emulation of 3rd button under ubuntu?
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  its not worth worrying about
[18:17] <bastid_raZor> mordof: it is possible. not every video driver plays well with compiz.
[18:17] <mordof> bastid_raZor: how do i turn off/on compiz temporarily?
[18:17] <ioka> yes there is no password , just enter it works
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  if you made sda3 a extended partition.. your first logical wouldbe sda5  so gaps dont matter.
[18:17] <docmax> so who is "naming" the devices?
[18:17] <docmax> i hate gaps!! =(
[18:17] <bastid_raZor> mordof: system>preference>apperance> visual tab .. select none
[18:18] <docmax> ok anyway... thank you a lot!
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  its how the partitions are laid out.. you can have 4 parimaries..  1-4.  1 extended.. containing logicals.. those start at '5'
[18:18] <ioka> same shit ifconfig wlan0 up - no such file or directory
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  get over it. :)
[18:18] <gotunandan> KristianRose: unlikely unless they really know about ubuntu
[18:18] <alabd> good day everyone ,how to run this code ?http://www.thinkwiki.org/index.php?title=Code/tp-theft&action=edit
[18:18] <mengu> hi.
[18:18] <oroz> could someone help with mouse setting
[18:18] <gotunandan> ioka: please check if wlan0 is the name of your wireless device, it might be wlan1 or eth1 ?
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> docmax:   the default ubuntu layout would be 'sda1' 'sda2(extended) (sda5 logical in sda2)'
[18:19] <mordof> bastid_raZor: solved it, ty
[18:19] <gotunandan> ioka: run $ ifconfig -a
[18:19] <KristianRose> gotunandan: i would hope so,  since they're shipping their  laptops with ubuntu preinstalled
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  what Can cause issues is when ya get sda1 sda3 sda4 sda2
[18:19] <ioka> it is wlan0
[18:19] <mengu> i don't know if my vga driver is installed. how can i check that=
[18:19] <bastid_raZor> mordof: cool, sadly though your driver and compiz are enemies.
[18:19] <mengu> ?
[18:19] <dvtritch> Hi, Does anybody know when there will be 3D support for the ATI HD4850?
[18:19] <gotunandan> KristianRose: ohh right, you mean the dell mini10v with ubuntu moblin remix ?
[18:19] <iDangerMouse> Dr_Willis:  in boot/grub/menu.lst where is defoption  ?
[18:20] <ioka> so i guess there is no way to use wifi in live session
[18:20] <resno> is there a way to automate editing a bunch of files? i have to change 2 lines on each file.
[18:20] <KristianRose> gotunandan: yea.
[18:20] <JoeNu2Linux> can someone help me fix my network? will upgrading to the beta  fix my network? i didn't break it must have been an update, or a glitch
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> iDangerMouse:   no idea. load it in a text editor and use the search feature.   I amusing Grub2 - so i dont even have a grub1 menu.lst to check
[18:20] <iDangerMouse> ok
[18:20] <gotunandan> mordof: you can run this script called compiz-check available at http://forlong.blogage.de/article/pages/Compiz-Check
[18:20] <docmax> Dr_Willis, i want to keep everything logical and in order
[18:20] <bastid_raZor> ioka: type ifconfig ..does it show wlan0 ?
[18:20] <oroz> any experts in mice field?
[18:20] <napa> !Tv Out
[18:21] <docmax> i used to use sda2... now i have to rethink everytime
[18:21] <Chiiiiiz> hello!!
[18:21] <docmax> sda2 2nd partition...
[18:21] <Chiiiiiz> I am using Xubuntu, and I try to configure the multimedia keys of my medion K keyboard.
[18:21] <docmax> now: sda3 2nd partiton... its not logical and confusing
[18:21] <docmax> i hate such things
[18:22] <Chiiiiiz> How can I know what mixer controls my sound
[18:22] <Chiiiiiz> I try to affect the sound control to amixer, but I think I am not using amixer
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  then you shouldent of deleted one out of the middle
[18:23] <KristianRose> is there a default webcam program installed in ubuntu, or does anyone have any recommendations?
[18:23] <gotunandan> ioka: do you have a broadcom wireless card, if so you might have to install the non-free drivers for it
[18:24] <gotunandan> !info cheese | KristianRose
[18:24] <ioka> yes it is bcm 4603 rev 3 .It is fully supported by b43 driver
[18:24]  * uniq_user has 12 partitions
[18:24] <ioka> I have used it with wubi installation
[18:24] <genii> KristianRose: I find also that VLC has pretty good webcam capture
[18:24] <ioka> just it does not work in live session
[18:24] <Xeon> hi i get this error "kernel panic - not syncing : VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknow-block(104, 1)
[18:25] <ioka> I hope when I install ubuntu it will work fine
[18:25] <KristianRose> cool thanks
[18:25] <gotunandan> ioka: maybe you could get better results with the broadcom STA drivers ? not recommending you to install proprietary drivers but if you dont have a choice
[18:25] <oroz> could someone help me turn off third button emulation
[18:26] <JoeNu2Linux> aw cummon, so i got re reinstall then?
[18:26] <gotunandan> !webcam
[18:26] <Xeon> anyone know what's up ?
[18:27] <docmax> Dr_Willis, ok i think i will delete sda3 and sda4 and recreate them, to get sda2 and sda3 again
[18:27] <docmax> ...if there is no better solution
[18:27] <docmax> ...and for the future no middle deletings
[18:27] <JoeNu2Linux> an asnwer at least?
[18:27] <gotunandan> docmax: you sure you do not have any important data on those partitions
[18:27] <mersault> I want to try out the 9.10 beta, but my current FS is encrypted (LVM style), and I want to keep my a couple of the volumes as they are. Will the installer be able to handle that?
[18:27] <bastid_raZor> docmax: i though fdisk could rename them.
[18:27] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: what's the problem?
[18:28] <ioka> well I use the live session just to check some of the windows errors I got.If I can repair them.Then I'll do hard disk install.I hope it will work since it worked with wubi installation.What do you whink, will be there any problems after the final release came up for me to upgrade from the beta 9.10. or you will recommend to install 9.04 release?
[18:28] <gotunandan> mersault: use the alternate installer ISO
[18:28] <mersault> gotunandan, great, thanks.
[18:28] <perrottino> I want a page like this for my channel what I must to do ? http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/10/12/%23ubuntu.html thanks
[18:28] <docmax> gotunandan, i have importand data, but i will backup it.. and restore it
[18:28] <docmax> bastid_raZor, nothing can rename sda2
[18:28] <gotunandan> ioka: I recommend the 9.10 release actually
[18:29] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq i don knot, just that my network went away
[18:29] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq i don't  know, just that my network went away
[18:29] <gotunandan> wait for the RC till oct 22nd
[18:29] <ioka> so I'll install the beta then
[18:29] <gotunandan> !karmic
[18:29] <j1mp492> how do i force a program (with tray support) to start within the tray when i log in?
[18:29] <MrElendig> j1mp492: see if it has a option to start minimized
[18:30] <MrElendig> j1mp492: or write a rule for your wm that minimizes it
[18:30] <gotunandan> j1mp492: which is this program you mention ?
[18:30] <oroz> anyone can help me turn off "Emulate3Buttons"?
[18:30] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: ok do an lspci, ifconfig, cat /etc/networks, lsmod and pastebin it..
[18:30] <JoeNu2Linux> i am afraid as a new user i'll be reinstalling a lot :)
[18:30] <JoeNu2Linux> ok i shall try
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  ln -s /dev/sda3 /dev/sda2 :P
[18:31] <Farrel> how to list channels?
[18:31] <j1mp492> gotunandan: shutter
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  or just edit your fstab and  fix the mountpoints.. but if you want to spend a day backing/up/resgoreing.. have fun
[18:31] <Pici> Farrel: /msg alis help list   further irc help in #freenode
[18:31] <gotunandan> KristianRose: any more queries ?
[18:31] <gotunandan> j1mp492: as MrElendig  said you can set rules for shutter using compiz settings manager
[18:31] <KristianRose> gotunandan: nope that's everything for now.  thanks for the help! =)
[18:32] <docmax> ln -s /dev/sda3 /dev/sda2   hahaha
[18:32] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: some advice as an old user ;) .. provide as much information as possible, what you did what you didn't do, what happened before it failed if anything and your configs, make sure you read a troubleshooting guide first. After all that someone will be more willing to help if you put your part
[18:32] <j1mp492> gotunandan: how? :)
[18:32] <j1mp492> gotunandan: or how do i set a rule to start in the tray
[18:32] <gotunandan> install ccsm first
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  i mount my drives based on 'label' :) using /dev/sdXXXX is so.. 2005ish
[18:34] <j1mp492> gotunandan: already have
[18:34] <gotunandan> j1mp492: i am not particularly sure have never tried it but compiz-config-settings-manager has a window rules plugin allowing you to set specific settings individually for apps
[18:34] <j1mp492> gotunandan: i readed that it should be possible with alltray or im not sure but maybe
[18:34] <MrElendig> could always use openbox
[18:34] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq ok, thanks for the advice, i think i did it right - http://pastebin.com/d1805b2ff
[18:36] <ioka> is cp only for file coping or for directories too?
[18:36] <grawity> ioka: cp -R can copy directories.
[18:36] <ioka> 10x
[18:37] <tundrayeti311> I am having an issue, where shared folders don't appear as shared after a reboot?  I have samba setup.  If i "re-share" it seems to work OK, but where would I look for problems/fixes?
[18:37] <gotunandan> j1mp492: quite possibly or you could use openbox ?
[18:37] <ioka> -R is for subdirecties too , right?
[18:37] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: looks like you have an IP -> 192.168.2.3, try to ping another computer on the network or your router prolly 192.168.2.1
[18:37] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq, i didnt do much at all with the system so far, after install added vlc ,xchat and konversation, then started a reading project, only thing i can remember doing was updates
[18:37] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq,  ok
[18:38] <genii> ioka: cp -R    is Recursive, so yes.
[18:38] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq,  i can ping the other machines and the router
[18:38] <ioka> 10x alot
[18:38] <^papocchio> salve
[18:38] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq, i did NOT assign an ip, didn't know how
[18:39] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: hmm ok, maybe it's a DNS issue. try ping google.com   or  yahoo.com
[18:39] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: doesn't matter just any website
[18:40] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq, pings ok there too, how do i set up ip that in ubuntu?
[18:40] <genii> ioka: If you use: cp -R /folder /some-other-folder         it will copy /folder with all hidden files/folders underneath into /some-other-folder/folder           but if you use cp -R /folder/*  /some-other-folder      it copies only the visible files and folders from /folder into /some-other-folder
[18:40] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq, pings ok there too, how do i set up ip and dns, etc in ubuntu?
[18:41] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: the network manager applet usually sets that up for you via DHCP to your internet rounter.
[18:42] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq, it was all ok, and then bang it was gone (i presume after an update)
[18:42] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: most people just plug it in and it works. If it's wireless, you may need to put in a WEP or WPA key but DHCP takes care of IP and DNS etc
[18:42] <KristianRose> gotunandan: if you're ever looking to spring for a SSD, i'm using the Corsair P128, just FYI.  Not quite as good as the Intel SSDs, but it's still has impressive figures (maxed out Vista's performance test lol)
[18:42] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: reboot didn't help?
[18:42] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq,  no
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> tundrayeti311:   make sure the samba service is starting at boot up.
[18:43] <oroz> could someone help me make "Emulate3Buttons" "no" work?
[18:43] <Matisse> why cups wants to know a uri for my printer?
[18:43] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: so you can ping to your local computers and to the website but when you try to open up google in firefox it doesn't work?
[18:44] <joycejeane> alguém do braqsil?
[18:44] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq,  i have internet, "network" is empty
[18:44] <joycejeane> #brasil
[18:44] <Pici> !br | joycejeane
[18:44] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq, this is the box
[18:45]  * gotunandan thanks KristianRose for the tip
[18:45] <ironfoot_495> Hello I'mhaving  problems with css using php can't get css to work.
[18:45] <ironfoot_495> can someone help me figure this out?
[18:46] <ioka> I got an error saying value too large for defined value .The file is 32kb large
[18:46] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: you're killing me.... if you want to learn how to manually setup your network interfaces there are plenty of documents out there
[18:46] <joycejeane> Isso é uma droga!
[18:46] <joycejeane> quero windows!!!
[18:46] <ioka> I'll try in the terminal
[18:46] <joycejeane> :(((((((((
[18:46] <esrms> I reformated a luks encrypted partition with "cryptsetup luksFormat --verify-passphrase /dev/sda2".
[18:46] <esrms> Is there anyway to recover the data from the partition?
[18:46] <genii> joycejeane: /j #ubuntu-br
[18:46] <ioka> I'm trying to copy that file
[18:46] <helpdesk> someone help me! i am trying to download the gnome lokkit firewall but there is an error : failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gnome/lokkit....
[18:46] <genii> joycejeane: o /join #ubuntu-br
[18:46] <truenhero> gameover
[18:46] <helpdesk> someone help pls
[18:46] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq, well i ll reinstall os, its easier
[18:46] <chippy> hi, how can i set the menu key to open context menus? keyboard>layouts>keyboard options> set standard behavior to menu key doed not work.
[18:46] <truenhero> help what?
[18:47] <Pici> oroz: I was under the impression that there was a checkbox in Gnome's mouse properties to toggle that.  If you cannto do that, then adding the following to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf might work too: Section "InputDevice" Identifier  "Mouse0" Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
[18:47] <truenhero> #gameover
[18:47] <Pici> oroz: sorr, that last part was supposed to be: http://paste.ubuntu.com/292529/
[18:47] <talntid> can someone help me diagnose a problem mounting a nfs share? it used to work, now it doesn't. it just times out.
[18:47] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: that doesn't make sense... my configs are all emty too but that's because network manager takes care of it.
[18:47] <ArchType> !webcams
[18:47] <esrms> http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1229776
[18:47] <talntid> and no errors in the logs
[18:47] <oroz> Pici, thanks, thats exactly what i have in my xorg, but its not taking effect, thanks
[18:47] <joycejeane> add aih joycejeane@hotmail.com
[18:48] <joeyeye> !graphics
[18:48] <esrms> Here is ubuntu forum link.
[18:48] <joycejeane> pqp
[18:48] <joycejeane> q droga
[18:48] <joeyeye> !video
[18:48] <JoeNu2Linux> mikinanuq, i know , perhaps someone is screwing with me or virus?
[18:49] <JoeNu2Linux> maybe i DO need av
[18:49] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: no virus and you're behind a firewall so it's very unlikely especially on a new system.
[18:49] <genii> joycejeane: Inglês somente aqui.
[18:49] <gotunandan> JoeNu2Linux: no virus problem would really affect ubuntu
[18:49] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: you say you are able to ping remote hosts? using their domain names on the command line?
[18:49] <JoeNu2Linux> yes
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[18:50] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: then what exactly is the problem with your network settings?
[18:50] <JoeNu2Linux> and remember it as working fine all by itself and " just went away"
[18:50] <JoeNu2Linux> and remember it WAS working fine all by itself and " just went away"
[18:50] <ioka> same shit
[18:50] <ioka> It is the SAM file from windows
[18:50] <gotunandan> ioka: elaborate ?
[18:50] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: what was working fine and went away?
[18:51] <ioka> I can not copy it
[18:51] <joeyeye> JoeNu2Linux: can you elaborate on your problem ?
[18:51] <JoeNu2Linux> new to linux if i had a clue, i would not be ready to reisntall :)
[18:51] <JoeNu2Linux> i can only try ...
[18:51] <Pici> ioka: Please mind your language here.
[18:51] <ioka> I got value too large for defiened value
[18:51] <canthus13> grr.
[18:51] <ioka> ok
[18:52] <JoeNu2Linux> i expect i could boot ubuntu from a a cd and get a network
[18:52] <truenhero> how can i connect a windows pc with vinagre
[18:52] <ioka> I have copied SAM file from restore points with wubi installation.In live sessions I get these errors
[18:52] <grawity> truenhero: The Windows system must be running a VNC server (such as TightVNC).
[18:52] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: are you saying you're able to ping from the machine but nothing else is working? or can you no longer ping remote hosts?
[18:52] <truenhero> y en español?
[18:52] <Pici> !es | truenhero
[18:52] <grawity> truenhero: If you want to use Windows' "Remote Desktop" insead, then 'rdesktop' and 'tsclient'.
[18:52] <joeyeye> truenhero: install something like realvnc server on the PC and use vinagre to connect to it
[18:53] <truenhero> thanks so much
[18:53] <ioka> maybe with mv command?
[18:53] <JoeNu2Linux> i wish i could tell you more, since i cant , i think its best to reinstall everything
[18:53] <JoeNu2Linux> i can ping
[18:53] <JoeNu2Linux> whatever
[18:53] <joeyeye> JoeNu2Linux: what is the problem ? re-install seems drastic approach.
[18:54] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: especially since pinging and name resolution seems to work
[18:54] <JoeNu2Linux> drastic? not for me, i am a newbie
[18:54] <MrJeep> hi
[18:54] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: how about a screenshot of what you are seeing that "went away"... I think he's talking about samba shares or windows shares.
[18:54] <JoeNu2Linux> i want to learn on a proper linux, not a broken one
[18:55] <ilowe> mikinanuq: it's definitely unclear exactly what is "broken"
[18:55] <truenhero> can i connect to ftp from smb4k?
[18:55] <gotunandan> JoeNu2Linux: re installation isnt really necessary, your problem can be solved to be fair
[18:55] <JoeNu2Linux> yes all my windows machines went away under "network"
[18:55] <mikinanuq> ilowe: true, but I think we can at least say we tried ;)
[18:55] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: are you chatting from this "broken" machine right now?
[18:56] <ilowe> mikinanuq: yep :) I think he may have replaced a samba config file during an update (maybe moving into another workgroup) if it's the windows shares that are at issue.
[18:56] <JoeNu2Linux> yes, this machine, and as i am trying to gradually port my life over to linux, i need ALL MACHINES talking, i have 0 way communication
[18:57] <Farrel> how to list java channel?
[18:57] <ioka> yes with mv command I can move it.Is there a way to copy it with mv command
[18:57] <Pici> Farrel: /join ##java
[18:57] <JoeNu2Linux> i am sure it can be solved, but can i handle it? dunno
[18:57] <Farrel> i need list of all java channels
[18:58] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: LOL. OK, so your network is working perfectly. What *exactly* is the problem you are having? It sounds like you could see some Windows shares "before" and now you cannot. Anything else, or is that the extent of the problem?
[18:58] <Pici> Farrel: /msg alis help list    irc help is in #freenode  please refrain from asking non-Ubuntu questions in #ubuntu
[18:58] <JoeNu2Linux> no , that is it. would be real nice to know what happened and why
[18:58] <Farrel> Pici, sry for bothering
[18:58] <grawity> ilowe: I guess he wants the network browsing feature (as in, you open network:// and you automatically see all machines running SMB)
[18:59] <JoeNu2Linux> win machines are gone, at least that is all i notice (remember how new i am )
[18:59] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: OK, no problem. Let's walk through this a bit...
[18:59] <joeyeye> JoeNu2Linux: can you ping the windows machines by IP address ? How does your internal/home network do local name resolution ?
[19:00] <je> I wanna dual boot Karmic 32bit and 64bit but use the same encrypted home directory... my secondly installed system won't mount the home directory... anyone know why?
[19:00] <Pici> je: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[19:00] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: can you please post your /etc/samba/smb.conf to a pastebin?
[19:00] <huwaw69> have a problem in wine
[19:00] <ilowe> grawity: sounds like it...
[19:00] <JoeNu2Linux> i use a router, and i can ping whatever you desire
[19:00] <je> encrypted home directory is also available in Jaunty
[19:00] <Freakinacage> mmmm
[19:00] <ilowe> joeyeye: it's probably just samba or some wins config
[19:01] <Freakinacage> whats the wine problem
[19:01] <je> as far as I know it's not a Karmic specific thing
[19:01] <BaGy> huwaw69, what problem?
[19:01] <Matisse> is there a "ping" for printers/parallel port?
[19:01] <Pici> je: But karmic support is only in #ubuntu+1
[19:01] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, ok
[19:01] <Freakinacage> ofcourse not
[19:01] <Freakinacage> pinging is only for addresses
[19:01] <Freakinacage> if the printer is on a network port you can ping it
[19:02] <huwaw69> I have downloaded a ripped copy of assassins creed, I run the setup.bat with no problem, but when the setup asked me to install dxwebsetup.exe it gives error, its for directx9 i think BaGy
[19:02] <MrJeep> Hi. I'm having an issue with Ubuntu Server 9.04. I'm working in a Mac environment and I'm using SMB shares to access files on the Linux box. Right now, I edit a file, save it. Through SSH, I can see the file is up to date, however, when I try to execute it, it's using a previous version and I have no idea on how to refresh it. Anyone know what's happening ?
[19:02] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: and can you also give me the output of running "sudo uname -a"?
[19:02] <mr`Cubicular> every time I start Vuze, I get this same message and Vuze restarts over and over, displaying this message each time:  Vuze just completed downloading an important update and must now be restarted so that the update can be installed.
[19:03] <Freakinacage> try to remove it and install it again
[19:03] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, http://pastebin.com/d160bbf70
[19:03] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: OK, what workgroup are your windows machines in?
[19:04] <mr`Cubicular> me?
[19:04] <joeyeye> mr`Cubicular: there's likely an issue with permissions on the temp folder. run vuez under sudo, let the update finish and restart again normally
[19:04] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, Linux LINUX 2.6.28-15-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 9 10:49:34 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:04] <huwaw69> anyone?
[19:04] <Binford> anyone here happen to know how I can (through nautilus or xfe) log in to a mac osx partition. I get weird "you do not have permission" errors
[19:05] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: thanks for the uname; do you know what workgroup your Windows machines are in?
[19:05] <mr`Cubicular> i have done that joeyeye
[19:05] <JoeNu2Linux> Ileden_, workgroup is called workgroup
[19:05] <mikinanuq> Binford: ssh is good for transferring files between machines
[19:06] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe,  workgroup is called workgroup
[19:06] <joeyeye> mr`Cubicular: I had this issue and google'd for a fix - I definitely resolved it
[19:07] <Cobalt> Hello. Is there a way to make GNOME recognise a USB drive I just plugged in? I can mount it manually, but GNOME will just not recognise it. I have to specify that this is logging on remotely using NX Client.
[19:08] <grawity> Cobalt: Usually, Nautilus (the file manager/desktop) handles automounting.
[19:08] <mr`Cubicular> joeyeye: i try to restart it in sudo and then normally but it keeps repeating: Vuze just completed downloading an important update and must now be restarted so that the update can be installed.
[19:08] <grawity> Cobalt: You might need to install gnome-mount for that.
[19:09] <grawity> Cobalt: Also... _where_ are you plugging in that drive? On the remote PC?
[19:09] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: OK, can I see the output of /// ps aux | grep "[ns]mbd" /// (without the /// but including the quotes)
[19:09] <Cobalt> grawity: Yes, but for some reason, it does not seem to pick up the drive in a GNOME session initiated by NX client. Gnome-mount is already there.
[19:09] <mr`Cubicular> then counts down to restart
[19:09] <mr`Cubicular> rendering it useless
[19:09] <subone> What does the "Xv" in `sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv` refer to?
[19:09] <Cobalt> grawity: Remote PC. NX Client session is to remote PC. I'm looking for the thing to pop up in the remote session. It does not.
[19:10] <Cobalt> grawity:  This is Hardy, by the way, I'm still on LTS.
[19:10] <joeyeye> mr`Cubicular: what vuze version ?
[19:10] <mr`Cubicular> the one in the repositories
[19:11] <mr`Cubicular> joeyeye: 3.1.1.1.0
[19:11] <mr`Cubicular> whoops
[19:11] <mr`Cubicular> 3.1.1.0
[19:12] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: try this: "sudo apt-get install winbind" (without quotes)
[19:12] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, please rephrase that
[19:13] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: rephrase which bit?
[19:13] <JoeNu2Linux>  OK, can I see the output of /// ps aux | grep "[ns]mbd" /// (without the /// but including the quotes)
[19:13] <mr`Cubicular> Cobalt: what does it mean to be "on LTS" ?
[19:13] <Matisse> is there a "ping" for printers/parallel port?
[19:14] <Cobalt> !LTS | mr`Cubicular
[19:14] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: never mind, just do "apt-get install winbind"; let's try that
[19:14] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, doen
[19:14] <mr`Cubicular> what does it mean to be "supported"?
[19:14] <mr`Cubicular> joeyeye: are you still there?
[19:14] <Cobalt> mr`Cubicular: Basically, provide help with issues that might arise from using it. In this channel, for example. Or forums.
[19:15] <canthus13> mr`Cubicular: ...as well as still receiving regular security updates.
[19:15] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: OK, now check nautilus (your file explorer) and go to Network/Windows Network
[19:15] <BluShift> hi everyone
[19:15] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, now i see machines, but cannot access them
[19:16] <joeyeye> mr`Cubicular: I am, but I'm running 4.2.0.8 so not sure that what I suggest will be relevant
[19:16] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: yay! one step forward :)
[19:16] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, i guess
[19:16] <bigman_> hi everybody
[19:17] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, i really DO appreciate this by the way
[19:17] <mr`Cubicular> canthus13: i have recieved security updates with non LTS versions
[19:17] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: no problem :)
[19:17] <resno> !hi | bigman_
[19:17] <Stevethepirate> Hmm, my X server seems a bit borked, like, there are distortions on the screen, pressing Print Screen [hoping to take a picture to show you] makes the screen instantly fix itself until I move the mouse [almost like keyframes are right in a move, but all the delta frames are screwed]
[19:17] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: what's the error when you try to "access" a machine?
[19:18] <Farrel> i need channel for openGL ? how do i search for them?
[19:18] <bigman_> I v got a problem, to mount a Vfat disk in writting mode, I manage to get it in reading mode but not writting, any clues?
[19:18] <Doc_Lappy> can anyone tell me if I can somehow del my winxp partition and reinstall it withoug it reformatting over my ubuntu?
[19:18] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, Unable to mount location , Failed to retrieve share list from server
[19:19] <Farrel> i need channel for openGL ? how do i search for them?
[19:19] <Doc_Lappy> I really don't want to lose ubuntu too but my winxp is messed and won't show the start button
[19:19] <canthus13> mr`Cubicular: As long as it's still supported (8.04, 8.10, or 9.04) you should still receive security updates.
[19:19] <Farrel> i need channel for openGL ? how do i search for them?
[19:19] <teimu> hi ubuntu, im trying to connect to my university's WPA protected network, and ubuntu is prompting me for a certificate. I left this blank before, and it works, but other students of mine recommend it. I have many certs available in /etc/ssl/certs. Which one should I use?
[19:19] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: can you pastebin the output of "findsmb", please?
[19:20] <xyro> does anyone know of a good cheap vps service?
[19:20] <pradeep> hi everyone
[19:20] <gotunandan> teimu: which is the certificate that the other students used ?
[19:20] <Joelito> pradeep: Hi
[19:20] <canthus13> #opengl is the opengl channel.
[19:20] <Guest5568> what is the best way to limit internet connections to sudo or root
[19:21] <teimu> gotunandan: i can find out, but i guess i should use that one?
[19:21] <pradeep> whats cooking today
[19:21] <gotunandan> teimu: i also have a wpa enterprise network in college but i safely ignore the CA certificate, works ok for me
[19:22] <gotunandan> teimu: if you really ***need*** to use a certificate then yes, use the same one the students use
[19:22] <teimu> gotunandan: the one i know i see right now is "Equifax_Secure_CA.pem".
[19:22] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, http://pastebin.com/d9080cd0
[19:22] <teimu> gotunandan: I guess my real question is, what will a certificate in connecting to a WPA network provide me?
[19:23] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, is that findsmb supposed to show my xp machines too?
[19:24] <gotunandan> teimu: i do not know the details of how WPA works with a certificate so input from my end unfortunately !
[19:24] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: it should, yes
[19:24] <Bodsda> Hi, is there any media player that has a decent media library? I want something that is custumizable, group by artist and order by song number etc? VLC banshee totem rhythmbox all seem to suck at this
[19:24] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/nsswitch.conf?
[19:24] <Bodsda> Oh, and preferabl no kdelibs
[19:25] <gotunandan> !info exaile | Bodsda
[19:25] <Bodsda> gotunandan: sweetness, cheers dude
[19:25] <BluShift> Poll: Fedora vs. Ubuntu?
[19:25] <Bodsda> BluShift: Linux
[19:25] <grawity> BluShift: Arch
[19:25] <Bodsda> gentoo
[19:25] <jason_froebe> BluShift - Commodore 64 ;-)
[19:25] <teimu> gotunandan: well, i guess I'll just use it. why not have the extra layer of security?, i suppose. thanks for your help.
[19:25] <Bodsda> lol
[19:25] <talntid> Anyone here know of a tool that can show me traffic totals between 2 hosts, by running the tool on one host?
[19:25] <alfatau> hello, i'm looking for an utility able to limit outgoing bandwidth per ip, because the outgoing bandwidth weighs upon the complexive incoming bandwidth of my line. i don't want to limit the outgoing bandwidth for all network hosts but only for the ones who uses to upload too much with p2p clients, while i would preserve the full upload speed for other hosts which sporadically use the outgoing bandwidth (i.e. emails...). can you help me?
[19:25] <Pici> Bodsda: #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:26] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, http://pastebin.com/d4a543d52
[19:26] <Pici> BluShift: sorry, #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:26] <mikinanuq> JoeNu2Linux: pastbinit is a great tool, have it yet? sudo apt-get install pastebinit ...
[19:26] <Bodsda> Pici: ty, shouldnt have responded though -- my bad
[19:26] <BluShift> grawity: I've heard it's really unstable and very, very UNuserfriendly
[19:26] <teimu> alfatau: you living with roommates?
[19:26] <BluShift> Pici: My bad. That was my only question
[19:26] <alfatau> thanks for your attention
[19:26] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: OK, can you please add "wins" at the end of the line that starts with "hosts:"?
[19:27] <alfatau> teimu? what means roommates?
[19:27] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, fyi - 250gb data drive in this box called files
[19:27] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: s'OK, there's no impact
[19:27] <mikinanuq> alfatau: usually torrent programs allow you to limit upload download speeds
[19:28] <JoeNu2Linux> Ileden_, at the end of the line that starts with hosts? the very end? no space?
[19:28] <teimu> alfatau: nevermind. i live with roommates, and i've been having problems with people filling up our line with torrents, and therefore making the network unusable for everyone else
[19:28] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: it should read "hosts:          files mdns4 [NOTFOUND=return] dns wins" or whatever
[19:28] <Zedde> Hello , I have a friend who is going to run a script ( extract files and stuff ) and his hdd to smal but he has a external usb disk but it's in fat32 , as I understand you can't sett file permissions on the files stored on fat32. so I was thinking of making a virtal harddrive , that can be stored on the USB drive and be mounted , can se be done with a dd file ?
[19:28] <julio_> hello
[19:29] <julio_> help tc filter please
[19:29] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: once that is done, try to ping your windows machine using only it's windows name
[19:29] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe,  take out the  mdns4?
[19:29] <mikinanuq> Zedde: yeah, should be fine
[19:30] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: nope, I just pasted my line; leave yours and append "wins" to it.
[19:30] <teimu> alfatau: ok, so, are the computers connecting to the internet through you? i would think there's a router that you're all connecting to
[19:30] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file.
[19:30] <Anonymust> Hey, I'm getting an error when I log in that goes like "Error activating XKB config..." I think it's because of my keyboard. I'm using a Macbook Pro, when I set the keyboard as Macbook Pro (Intl) it gives me the message too...
[19:30] <ricardo> do somebody know if the xbmc can be installed om a ubuntu 9.10 64bit version
[19:30] <Zedde> mikinanuq: Hmm trying to read up on the dd command but all I can see is how to creat a dd from a source device
[19:30] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: yup... "sudo nano /etc/nsswitch.conf" should help
[19:30] <grawity> Zedde: "source" can be /dev/zero.
[19:31] <Bodsda> gotunandan: omg, it actually works -- cheers dude
[19:31] <mikinanuq> Zedde: dd is just one part of it, you have to mount the virtual hard drive as a loop device
[19:31] <mipnamic> hi folk, I need to keep up-to-date my Network-manager, how can I do it? I mean, that I use easypeasy, ubuntu for netbook, and I cannot upgrade to last ubuntu version, but I need the network-manager up to date... how to solve?
[19:31] <Zedde> mikinanuq: that I know , I do that in the script too
[19:31] <Anonymust> I don't have any sound either, I've tried reinstalling ALSA and still I get nothing. :^/
[19:31] <mikinanuq> Zedde: I remember seeing a howto on it a while ago, maybe I can find it for you
[19:31] <joeyeye> ilowe: I'm tracking your assistance to JoeNu2Linux and it's helping me too. ... a quick question, I have a windoze server "SOSO" which I can ping now using "SOSO", but if I try lowercase "soso" it resolves to some external ip address...  what's up with that ?
[19:32] <Zedde> mikinanuq: :D
[19:33] <ilowe> joeyeye: weird... I know that I have to ping windows machines in my network using uppercase... I'm not sure why (I chalk it up to some kind of windoze failing but you can't always believe the linux guys :) )
[19:33] <teimu> windows is not a curse word: it is an extremely effective operating system that was perhaps the majority of the worlds first exposure to personal computers
[19:34] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, how do i save this?
[19:34] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: control-x then press "y"
[19:34] <andrew__> Hello!  I seem to have some trouble getting my wireless to work.
[19:35] <ilowe> teimu: yup... but you wouldn't use the same logic to argue that everybody should ride a bike with training wheels :)
[19:35] <Bodsda> teimu: it still is the majority of the worlds exposure to personal computers
[19:35] <talntid> Anyone here know of a tool that can show me traffic totals between 2 hosts, by running the tool on one host?
[19:35] <gotunandan> bug 1
[19:35] <Bodsda> !bug1
[19:35] <alfatau> mikinanuq: i know, but i can't impose some best practise because "some" people continue doing what they want. it's a lost game :(
[19:35] <ilowe> talntid: wireshark, iftop, etc.
[19:35] <Bodsda> !bug 1
[19:36] <teimu> ilowe, completely agree, but you'd still call it a bike, not a biek, in say, rollerskating groups
[19:36] <Bodsda> omg, stop ruining the bot
[19:36] <mikinanuq> Zedde: http://linuxgazette.net/159/misc/lg/virtual_hard_disks.html   see if that helps any
[19:36] <roygbiv> on 9.04 after installing the recommended nvidia display drivers, my laptop no longer recognizes my external display attached via a docking station. anyone have suggestions on this one?
[19:36] <talntid> ilowe: I do know that those can sniff the traffic, but what I am looking for is a constant updating of...
[19:36] <talntid> x.x.x.x -> x.x.x.x = 5/mbps
[19:37] <ilowe> teimu: LOL... given the ratio of windows to linux in my network and the relative amount of maintenance I need to do on each host, I believe my "typo" accurately characterizes *my* windows machines.
[19:37] <ilowe> talntid: oops, sorry, I don't know about that
[19:37] <odinsbane> roygbiv: xrandr
[19:37] <mikinanuq> alfatau: I know what you mean, the only other way to do this is if your router allows for it.
[19:37] <ilowe> teimu: maybe I should hang out in more Windows support channels and I would get better performance ;)
[19:37] <alfatau> teimu: well, i've an ubuntu router and gateway (DNS server, DHCP server, etc...) which directly connects to internet with an ethernet device, and with a second ethernet device forwards traffic to an access point to which every people of the lan connect to.
[19:38] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: how're we doing, there?
[19:38] <n2diy> if I disable a daemon do I need to shutdown to stop it, or would loging out and back in suffice?
[19:38] <alfatau> mikinanuq: my router is an ubuntu box
[19:38] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, nothing there, shall i reboot or somehting?
[19:38] <andrew__> how do I enable roaming mode for my wireless card in xubuntu 9.04?
[19:38] <roygbiv> odinsbane what's weird is that my system now no longer even detects the display. it worked fine before i installed the nvidia driver :/
[19:39] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: hang on; did you try pinging your Windows machine?
[19:39] <mikinanuq> alfatau: should be able to do it then.. I am not familiar on how to do it in ubuntu but QoS is what you're looking for
[19:39] <roygbiv> it only recognizes the built in laptop display, not my external one
[19:39] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, ping was already working
[19:39] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, ?
[19:39] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: can you paste the output of ping to one of your windows machines?
[19:40] <odinsbane> roygbiv: Did you try rebooting with the display attached, that was the old way to get an overhead projector to work.
[19:40] <Big_D> anyone use Ubuntu MID with a Smart Q 5 or similar?
[19:40] <Zedde> mikinanuq: bookmarked , that was spot on . Thanks , ones again this is one of the best support channels I know of :)
[19:40] <teimu> ilowe: ok, fine. i just feel like some people do misspell it to appease the community. if you have an angst with microsoft, go ahead and misspell. but just make sure to have the right reasons
[19:40] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, by name or #?
[19:40] <roygbiv> odinsbane yea i've been tinkering for a while with no success. even tried switching back to the previous driver and now it won't work that way either
[19:41] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: by name, please
[19:41] <Guest5568> linuxcranks answered my question
[19:41] <roygbiv> i love linux and unix in general and have used them for years but wow, my impression of X overall is pretty low :/
[19:41] <ilowe> teimu: it was actually very tongue-in-cheek since I was saying that the OP actually *shouldn't* listen to people saying it was the fault of Windows :) We're both on the same page.
[19:41] <mweichert> hi, I'm trying to understand how linux routing works. In my routing table, I have a route that has a network, gateway, and netmask of 0.0.0.0 - what does that translate to?
[19:42] <mweichert> it looks like a default gateway with no gateway specified
[19:42] <grawity> mweichert: 0.0.0.0 matches all IPv4 addresses.
[19:42] <alfatau> mikinanuq: i followed instruction found on the http://lartc.org/ website, and after a week recompiling kernel and creating uneases to other people connected to the lan, i wasn't able to solve the problem. so i'm now looking for some application which does that task... or for someone who help me with lartc setup :(
[19:42] <roygbiv> the gateway is all zeroes too?
[19:42] <mweichert> roygbiv, yes
[19:42] <roygbiv> mweichert do you have an active interface on the system?
[19:42] <Sky[x]> torrent program with web GUI which one ?
[19:43] <BaGy> Sky[x], try deluge
[19:43] <Big_D> Sky [x] i would recommend deluge
[19:43] <BaGy> :)
[19:43] <mweichert> roygbiv, yes. This route gets created when I create a point-to-point connection using ppp
[19:43] <gotunandan> i!nfo transmission | BaGy
[19:43] <gotunandan> !info transmission | BaGy
[19:44] <roygbiv> mweichert aaah ok well, all-zero gateways normally indicate the subnet the interface is on. but with ppp i'm not sure. they use "tricks" along the way
[19:44] <Big_D> Anyone use a Smart Q device?
[19:44] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, this is different than win ping, proper command =?
[19:44] <hp100> hey
[19:44] <theoo> how can i restrict a directory for a virtual host???
[19:44] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: "sudo ping MYWINDOWSHOSTNAME"
[19:44] <grawity> ilowe: ping doesn't require root.
[19:44] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: when you said before that "ping works", what did you mean?
[19:44] <saml> how can I run commands as specific user during boot up?
[19:45] <hp100> can anyone reccomend a usb headset that has a mic onit?
[19:45] <ilowe> grawity: you're right, I was lazy and couldn't remember
[19:45] <JoeNu2Linux> no i meand it seems to keep going
[19:45] <roygbiv> grawity: well ping does require root but usually the binary is suid
[19:45] <JoeNu2Linux> in windowsland i get 4 results
[19:45] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: LOL... OK, just Ctl-C kill it
[19:45] <JoeNu2Linux> ill try again
[19:46] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: yeah, I don't need 300 lines of ping output :P
[19:46] <andrew__> Hello, anybody have anyexperience with Broadcom wireless card in ubuntu?
[19:46] <bwlang_> saml: if you want to run them as you - it probably makes more sense to run stuff as startup items in gnome... if you really want to do it on boot you could use su  and build something into /etc/rc.local
[19:46] <roygbiv> heh
[19:46] <Akos_beginner> Hi
[19:46] <mikinanuq> alfatau: hmm, I'll take a quick look but you may eventually need to check their mailing list or put in a post.
[19:46] <mneptok> roygbiv: music has the right to children
[19:46] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: brb... just going for a quick coffee... gimme 10
[19:46] <saml> bwlang_, i'm running ubuntu as server
[19:46] <Big_D> andrew__ yes
[19:46] <Big_D> what are you having trouble with?
[19:46] <roygbiv> mneptok was that supposed to be for me? i have no idea what you're talking about ;)
[19:46] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, http://pastebin.com/m759d99a1
[19:47] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, np
[19:47] <bwlang_> saml: maybe you should talk more about what you really want to do...
[19:47] <mneptok> roygbiv: oh, i think you do.
[19:47] <Akos_beginner> I cannot write a CD. Brasero tells me an error, that it runs out of the disk, Gnomebaker tells me that directiories too deep. It's not that funny, writing a CD in Ubuntu.
[19:47] <roygbiv> allll righty then
[19:47] <andrew__> Big_D, can you help me?  I cannot use my wireless at all.  it wont detect networks and when I manually put in theinformation it wont connecteither
[19:47] <saml> bwlang_, when a new machine boots up, it should fetch code and compile.   and i don't want to fetch code,compile as root.
[19:47] <Akos_beginner> is there other CD burner app?
[19:47] <hp100> can anyone reccomend a usb headset that has a mic onit?
[19:48] <andrew__> Big_D, this is a fresh install of ubuntu 9.04, and it installed 'fwcutter' right after it booted up
[19:48] <Big_D> what type of security is the router using?
[19:48] <chippy> hi, how can i set the menu key to open context menus? keyboard>layouts>keyboard options> set standard behavior to menu key doed not work.
[19:48] <chippy> does* sorry :)
[19:48] <mneptok> roygbiv: http://www.amazon.com/Music-Right-Children-Boards-Canada/dp/B0001RVTWA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1255459675&sr=8-2-spell
[19:48] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:48] <mneptok> roygbiv: track 10
[19:48] <theoo> i have a server with one ip and 2 domains.. i want to restrict the access from the first domain to some directories how to do that?
[19:48] <Tohuw> I need to get the IP address of a server on the local network. I can see its SMB shares in smbclient, but a ping to the hostname does not work. Is there a way to use smbclient to get the IP, or some similar method?
[19:48] <roygbiv> oh right. boards of canader
[19:48] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: Ouch... are you sure that's your real (internal) IP you're pinging there?
[19:48] <bwlang_> AKOS_beginner: fun not funny - that directories too deep issue is real - and has nothing to do with linux - it's about the specification for the cd file system. decrease your depth
[19:48] <andrew__> Big_D, I'm unsure.  I know the passcode but i cannot access the gateway page to check the settings.
[19:48] <mikinanuq> alfatau: do you know bash scripting?
[19:48] <mneptok> roygbiv: gotta love bands that know color hue mnemonics :)
[19:49] <Akos_beginner> The content I want ot write to Cd came from a CD :-)
[19:49] <JoeNu2Linux> Ileden_, ?
[19:49] <grawity> Tohuw: 'net lookup host foo'
[19:49] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, ?
[19:49] <Akos_beginner> It's the big Windows install CD :-)
[19:49] <roygbiv> boards can be handy. and canada seems like a comfy place so i reckon boards of canada is a good combination
[19:49] <JoeNu2Linux> tab grrrrrrrr
[19:49] <bwlang_> saml: maybe you could look at runit?
[19:49] <Akos_beginner> I cannot change the dir stucture
[19:49] <Tohuw> grawity: thanks, that worked like a champ
[19:49] <alfatau> mikinanuq: yes i know... i wrote scripts for weeks for automatizing some tasks onto that router...
[19:49] <ilowe> Can somebody double-check JoeNu2Linux is pinging the right host?
[19:49] <saml> bwlang_, thanks
[19:49] <Big_D> andrew__, is this your network?  It should say in the dropdown menu what encryption is used, WEP, WPA, WPA2
[19:50] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, huh?
[19:50] <andrew__> Big_D, its myparents, I cant see the network on any lists...
[19:50] <mikinanuq> alfatau: check this out... it's supposed to do QoS based on lartc... http://pastebin.com/f62914a69
[19:50] <Akos_beginner> Does it means that I will not be able to write it to CD?
[19:50] <bwlang_> akdo_beginner: maybe you've put it into a folder? (thereby adding one level to the depth)
[19:50] <mikinanuq> alfatau: unfortunately the notes are in spanish
[19:51] <joeyeye> JoeNu2Linux: ilowe: I see the uppercase/lowercase issue here: JoeNu2Linux use uppercase ping ASUS1
[19:51] <fujoor> hey guys, plz help, i accidently removed the network manager from the right upper  corner, how do i get it back??
[19:51] <arooni> our load right now is 8.72  ... how do we find out WHY this is ?  i.e what specifically is causing a high load... should load always be below 1?
[19:51] <Big_D> andrew__:Hhmm... i've had some trouble with the broadcomm chips on my sisters computer.  It worked best with no encryption used ... that might be the main problem.  what type of laptop are you using?
[19:52] <grawity> arooni: Try 'top' or 'htop', see which process is eating CPU
[19:52] <andrew__> Big_D, this is a dell inspiron 2200
[19:52] <fujoor> anybody who knows? do i have to find it manually?
[19:52] <fujoor> what is called? gnome-network-manager?
[19:52] <andrew__> the chipset is a BCM4318
[19:52] <legend2440> fujoor: right click top panel and choose Add to panel and choose  Notification Area
[19:52] <arooni> grawity, is CPU thee culprit
[19:52] <Big_D> andrew__, after fwcutter install, you rebooted?  Could you ever 'see' the network in the dropdown list?
[19:53] <Zedde> One more quetsion if I mount a dd file , can I mount another file inside that ?
[19:53] <grawity> Zedde: yes.
[19:53] <andrew__> Big_D, i have not rebooted.  i have not seen ANY network in a drop down list.
[19:53] <MalMen> Zedde yes
[19:53] <Zedde> thanks
[19:53] <fujoor> legend2440: thanks alot , ill try it right away
[19:53] <alabd> how to fix this error happend while running script > sox formats: no handler for given file type `ossdsp'
[19:53] <Zedde> to both
[19:53] <andrew__> Big_D, I think I'll reboot now... i'llbrb
[19:54] <ZykoticK9> fujoor, it's call "nm-applet" btw
[19:54] <Big_D> not one person in here using an MID?
[19:54] <fujoor> legend2440: ah, wonderful, saved my day, thanks :D
[19:54] <JoeNu2Linux> http://pastebin.com/m6523c4c0
[19:54] <Doc_Lappy1> will running dreamweaver thru wine work or has anybody here tried it?
[19:54] <legend2440> fujoor: your welcome
[19:54] <fujoor> ZykoticK9: found it :)
[19:55] <JoeNu2Linux> can someone tell me how to use tab key in xchat?
[19:55] <Pici> !appdb | Doc_Lappy1
[19:55] <fujoor> im running ubuntu 9.10 now, do i have to reinstall when the stable version comes out or do i just update my beta?
[19:55] <rblst> can anyone help me with multicast forwarding over a vpn channel?
[19:55] <Doc_Lappy1> thanks pici didn't know there was a wine channel thanks
[19:55] <JoeNu2Linux> can someone tell me how to replace xchat with something better ?
[19:55] <Sky[x]> how to run transmission in console with web gui ?
[19:56] <Guest4701> When I unmute my microphone (Volume Control -> Recording), close Volumn Control and then open again, the microphone is still muted.  What does that mean?
[19:56] <surgy> im using virtualbox  im using ubuntu 9.04 with windows xp as guest os. I am trying to get my logitech usb webcam to mount in the guest os, can someone help plz?
[19:56] <andrew__> back Big_D
[19:56] <ZykoticK9> Sky[x], it doesn't run transmission but if you're looking for a web based torrent client - check out torrentflux it's in the repo
[19:56] <VCoolio> fujoor: just update
[19:57] <joeyeye> JoeNu2Linux: you use the TAB key in xchat to expand someone's nick as you're typing it ...
[19:57] <Big_D> andrew__, any luck with wireless?
[19:57] <Pici> surgy: The version of virtualbox in Ubuntu does not support usb devices, you'd need to use the version from virtualbox's website to do that.  Help for that version is available in #vbox
[19:57] <JoeNu2Linux> joeyeye i press jo TAB and what a mess
[19:57] <alabd> solved
[19:57] <JoeNu2Linux> oh well must not always work
[19:58] <saml> why is my hostname   "ubuntu" ?
[19:58] <saml> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[19:59] <Guest4701> saml: 'man hostname'
[19:59] <saml> Guest4701, woman hostname
[20:00] <ZykoticK9> saml, Guest4701 that's funny
[20:00] <VCoolio> Sky[x]: install transmission-cli and transmission-daemon; you can use transmission-remote command in cli; this is not the same as transmission-gtk, it has different config though you can symlink them; sorry it's a bit of a mess but you can ask in #transmission too
[20:00] <joeyeye> JoeNu2Linux: what
[20:00] <joeyeye> JoeNu2Linux: what's the real address of your asus1 computer ?
[20:00] <Guest4701> saml: bash: woman: command not found
[20:00] <saml> alias woman=man
[20:01] <JoeNu2Linux> joeyeye, 192.168.2.101
[20:01] <foofish> saml: emacs ha M-x woman
[20:01] <foofish> *has
[20:01] <Pici> Lets try to keep it on topic here folks.
[20:01] <saml> E149: Sorry, no help for woman
[20:02] <joeyeye> JoeNu2Linux: pastebin your /etc/resolv.conf
[20:02] <anonymouz> how do u fix compiz
[20:03] <JoeNu2Linux> anyone how so i use pastebinit?
[20:03] <judget> Can someone advise me how to blacklist a package to keep it from being updated by the update manager please?
[20:04] <Enissay> how can i send a text message to another ubuntu laptop in my same network?
[20:04] <Flannel> judget: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Synaptic
[20:05] <legend2440> judget: if the package is in Synaptic  then highlight it and choose  Package>Lock Version
[20:05] <genii> !info linpopup
[20:05] <VCoolio> JoeNu2Linux: install it then pipe stuff into it like "cat textfile | pastebinit" or "command --whatever | pastebinit"
[20:05] <JoeNu2Linux> joeyeye, http://pastebin.com/d4130e68d
[20:06] <JoeNu2Linux> VCoolio, thx
[20:07] <gline> help
[20:07] <gline> #?
[20:07] <threethirty> hello all, anyone know where i can get a text file of the karmic changelog? I'm writing an article about it and would like to make sure i covered everything that people care about
[20:08] <foofish> judget: you can pin it
[20:08] <foofish> judget: i don't remember how. but if you google pinning apt it should come up
[20:08] <Pici> !ask | gline
[20:08] <genii> threethirty: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/karmic-changes/ might be useful to you
[20:09] <judget> Thanks legend2440 I keep rebuilding my own ffmpeg with all the bells and whistles and then if im not careful the update manager "fixex" that for  me :)
[20:09] <threethirty> ty genii
[20:09] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: how're things going?
[20:10] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, beats me / not well
[20:10] <legend2440> judget: your welcome
[20:10] <Devrethman> How would I convert a variable to lowercase in a BASH script?
[20:11] <Stevethepirate> Hmm, my X server seems a bit borked, like, there are distortions on the screen, pressing Print Screen [hoping to take a picture to show you] makes the screen instantly fix itself until I move the mouse [almost like keyframes are right in a move, but all the delta frames are screwed]
[20:11] <foofish> Enissay: or the talk command would work too, if the laptop has a logged on terminal
[20:11] <anonymouz> any1 know how 2 fix compiz fusion cant get settings manager up
[20:11] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: :) we're almost there... did you figure out how to ping your "ASUS1" machine?
[20:11] <john_new_user> can somebody help with Asterisk?
[20:11] <ilowe> !ask | john_new_user
[20:11] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, i guess
[20:11] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: so, you're able to ping it and it resolves to an address in 192.168.x.x?
[20:11] <john_new_user> I can't get my softphone to register with the asterisk server
[20:12] <john_new_user> I have tried everything, but nothing has worked
[20:12] <john_new_user> can someone please help?
[20:12] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, 199.101.28.10 makes no sense to me
[20:12] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: that's not the right IP; your network is using 192.168.x.x, right?
[20:13] <JoeNu2Linux> yes
[20:13] <alabd> how to remove KDE screensaver detection in this script http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code/tp-theft
[20:13] <einstein1969> hi, i want overclock my ecs k7s5a pro... how to modify a FSB?
[20:14] <ioka> I can not copy two files from ntfs partition under live session.I can move them.Just I can not copy them.could this be a bug in the new version beta 9.10 ubuntu?
[20:14] <epple> does anyone have ftth ?
[20:14] <Pavel_> does anyone know how to bypass a wifi proxy?
[20:14] <genii> einstein1969: Those boards only run at 100 or 133
[20:14] <john_new_user> Anybody has used softphone before?
[20:14] <epple> who has fiber?
[20:14] <john_new_user> I need some help regarding softphone and asterisk
[20:14] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, are you sure this is worth fixing?
[20:15] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, i love learning, but i want to be able to trust my system
[20:15] <Pici> john_new_user: Please be patient.  You may also want to ask in #asterisk
[20:15] <mtnbkr> Hello everyone   apt-get install bacula-client  got me the bacula file daemon v2.2.8 from Jan 2008    Bacula v 3.02 is available, but how do I get the newst in Ubuntu?   In gentoo, I would contact the package maintaner, not sure what my next step is in Ubuntu. Thanks
[20:15] <Daimonic> I want to call "options usbcore autosuspend=1 " but I do not know how in the terminal, can someone provide help?
[20:15] <einstein1969> i run in 143 from windows but with cpuFSB. there is any mode in linux?
[20:15] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: your call; I have other things I can do :)
[20:15] <einstein1969> genii: i run in 143 from windows but with cpuFSB. there is any mode in linux?
[20:16] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: the bottom line is that you should only use systems you know well on production machiens
[20:16] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, can i "trust" it? i come from windowsland where you cant trust anything
[20:16] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: also, you won't gain that trust until you use the system and debug it a couple of times
[20:17] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: The linux machines in my network are *super* solid; I have some with uptimes that are equal to the amount of time elapsed since I turned the power on from the factory.
[20:17] <joeyeye> ilowe: perhaps I can pick up with the interest level from here, because I can't browser my Windoze shares either ...!
[20:17] <john_new_user> How do I register with a given channel?
[20:17] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: at the end of the day, only *you* can decide what criteria allow you to "trust" a system :)
[20:17] <Laque> I changed the "Selected items" colour for my theme to green but things are still highlighting in orange. Any ideas?
[20:17] <joeyeye> ilowe: and I'm pretty savvy
[20:17] <jrib> john_new_user: you don't
[20:17] <jrib> !register | john_new_user
[20:18] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, ok lets fix it :)
[20:18] <Stevethepirate> Hmm, my X server seems a bit borked, like, there are distortions on the screen, pressing Print Screen [hoping to take a picture to show you] makes the screen instantly fix itself until I move the mouse [almost like keyframes are right in a movee, but all the delta frames are screwed]
[20:19] <Dig> Stevethepirate, is that with or without compiz running ?
[20:19] <rblst> can anyone help me with multicast forwarding over a vpn channel?
[20:19] <einstein1969> genii: i run in 143 from windows but with cpuFSB. how to in linux?
[20:20] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: OK, check the output of "ifconfig" on your machine and figure out what IP range your network is using (we need to figure out where that ASUS1 machine has gone)
[20:20] <anonymouz> this room is shit !
[20:20] <anonymouz> goodbye
[20:22] <NF404> 	
[20:22] <NF404> Hello people, help me win i-pod, you need only register with the social network "vkontakte", and everything here is the link: http://vk.com/reg3415333, it is not spam, it will just help me save $ 200:)
[20:22] <grawity> NF404: Thanks, no.
[20:22] <jrib> NF404: do not do that here
[20:22] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, i know a little about ip/networking from windows, but this ifconfig tells me nothing sorry
[20:23] <nocleader> NF404: take that elsewhere
[20:23] <Laque> Really not liking that things still highlight in orange when i set it to green. Using 9.04
[20:23] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: Under "eth0" or "wlan0" you should see a line that starts with "inet addr"
[20:23] <Chun1> hello. I have a pc which is connected to the internet. I want to share this internet connection wirelessly to another computer through a router. How do I go about doing this?
[20:24] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, its goen nuts inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
[20:24] <optgeek> Good afternoon, guys. Once again I need some advice...
[20:24] <grawity> JoeNu2Linux: That line probably belongs to the 'lo' interface (loopback), and is normal.
[20:24] <Laque> Chun1: does the second computer have a wireless card?
[20:24] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: LOL... OK, we need one that looks like "192.168.x.x" or "10.0.x.x"
[20:24] <alabd> how to make alarm continuable in this script http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code/tp-theft-basic
[20:24] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: just pastbin the whole output if you're confused
[20:25] <Chun1> Laque: yep, but there are multiple other pcs which I want to connect to the router, I've tried ad-hoc and it's very flaky
[20:25] <Chun1> Really I just need to know how to share a connection
[20:25] <NF404> is not advertising, I simply asked: (
[20:26] <blkdg> hi, i installed 9.04 alternate on a iMac g3 and i have startup issues. i have to hold ctrl option f1 during the boot, otherwise the pc hangs. i read the faq for ppc and the known issues for ppc, and those solutions do not work.
[20:26] <jrib> NF404: no one is claiming it is advertising.  But it certainly isn't an ubuntu support issue so it doesn't belong here
[20:26] <JoeNu2Linux> inet addr:192.168.2.3  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[20:26] <optgeek> I'm getting ubuntu 8.04 to run on a LTSP, but I'm having some issues with it's network controller (RDC R6040). Looks like the right modules are loaded and the interface is up, but when I lspci it's ID, it seems like it's not using the module. Any ideas or starting point?
[20:26] <Laque> Chun1: The router just splits the internet between the computers connected to it. It's not that it is sharing off another pc
[20:26] <blkdg> is there anyone here using ubuntu on PPC ?
[20:26] <JoeNu2Linux> still tells me nothing, unless i am on windows :)
[20:27] <NF404> well, not anymore: (
[20:27] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: OK, this tells us that ASUS1 should have an address that looks like "192.168.2.x"
[20:28] <Pici> alabd: If you're looking for perl help, please ask in #perl
[20:28] <JoeNu2Linux> its is .101
[20:28] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: can you run ipconfig on your ASUS1 machine and check the output to see what the IP is?
[20:28] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: cool
[20:28] <alabd> thank pici
[20:28] <Chun1> Laque: surely it's possible for the router to split the internet connection provided by a connected pc?
[20:28] <JoeNu2Linux>  iknow what is it, i set it
[20:28] <ioka> network manager says device not ready, however i can see the wifi card in ifconfig -a .HOwever i can not bring it up
[20:28] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: OK, now can you run "smbclient -L 192.168.2.101" from your linux host?
[20:28] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: just hit "enter" when asked for a password
[20:28] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: and pastebin the output
[20:29] <Laque> Laque: your computer isn't the thing providing the internet though, what internet are you using?
[20:29] <andrew__> Hello, I have this laptop here, and the enter key is not working.  I ran xmodmap -e "keycode 62 = KP_Enter" to make the right shift key the enter button and it works.  I also added that into bashrc to run that command when I log in...  but how can I make it run that command once the computer starts up?  i need the enterbutton on the log-in screen...
[20:29] <Chun1> Laque: university ethernet connection. I've tried plugging the router into it, but had no success - can only seem to access it using a pc
[20:30] <vox> mtnbkr: it will no doubt be updated with the next ubuntu release in about 2 weeks
[20:30] <vineside_> hi everyone i have a question about vim...
[20:30] <sebsebseb> vox: the next release many should do a nice clean install of really,  since  default Ext4 :)  not for 9.04 Ext3 upgrades though,   and the Ext3 to Ext4 conversion probably won't be quite good enoguh
[20:30] <vineside_> is there a command i can use that will highlight certain words?
[20:31] <vox> sebsebseb: what?
[20:31] <sebsebseb> vox: Oh you don't know what a file system is?
[20:31] <Laque> Laque: While the router is powered off, plug lan cable into the "IN" slot and plug another lan cable from your first computer to the "1" slot. Power it on after that and check your first computer for interent
[20:31] <Laque> Chun1*
[20:31] <iarp> Chun1: does your university require registration at the beginning of a year?
[20:31] <monkey_d_luffy> I use file-roller in KDE, but when I double click to open a file, it uses gnome(?) file settings associations instead of KDE... any way to fix this?
[20:32] <iarp> Chun1: like computer registration
[20:32] <vox> sebsebseb: ...i didnt ask anything.
[20:32] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, http://pastebin.com/d31c7552e
[20:32] <edbian> I have an ubuntu server with 8 ubuntu clients.  Is there a way to easily update the software on all of the clients at once?
[20:32] <vineside_> like if i need to highlight every ip in a log but a certain one?
[20:33] <Laque> Chun1: you may need to setup your router for your connection (usually automated) by going to the router IP (commonly 192.168.1.1)
[20:33] <genii> edbian: apt-proxy , usually
[20:33] <Chun1> iarp: yeah, it does. I think it adds my mac address to the allow list. tried spoofing the mac addr of the router and registering, but the router still didn't provide any connection
[20:33] <sebsebseb> vox: I read something about being upgraded to the next release
[20:33] <mtnbkr> vox: by release do you mean the 9.01 release that is "coming soon" ??   This is a new email server at my clients school. and I'd prefer to not go through a full system "upgrade" - not just yet anyway.
[20:33] <iarp> Chun1: most of the time you can just contact helpdeck with the mac address of the item you want intenret access with and they'll manually add it to the alloowed list
[20:33] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: oh an email server
[20:33] <vox> sebsebseb: it wasnt aimed at you. i was responding to someone else.
[20:33] <Laque> Chun1: might need to contact the network administrator so that your router may be added
[20:33] <Moofius> how can I make an /etc/init.d script run when the computer starts? right now I have to run sudo /etc/init.d/nginx start after every restart
[20:34] <mtnbkr> sebsebseb: well, it is Zimbra on Ubunut 64bit
[20:34] <edbian> genii:  I think that is deprecated and is now "apt-cacher"  which I thought was only a means of making the packages download faster (because they're on the local server).  Is this not correct ?
[20:34] <sebsebseb> vox: I know, but  I saw it, hence why I put what I put, but nevermind I guess
[20:34] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: Sweet... looks like your workgroup name is ASUS1; can you go and set that in /etc/samba/smb.conf (near the top, it says "workgroup = WORKGROUP")
[20:34] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: Which version of Ubuntu I mean the number
[20:34] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: we're really close now!
[20:34] <mtnbkr> sebsebseb: so a full upgrade is probably not as bad as it might be, ...    how do I find out the Ubuntu verison #
[20:34] <mtnbkr> I think it was/is 8.04 server 64bit
[20:35] <sebsebseb> !version |  mtnbkr
[20:35] <genii> edbian: Once the initial box has the updates, the rest all use it's store of deb files, yes
[20:35] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: really that server should be running 8.04, because it's the LTS
[20:35] <vox> mtnbkr: 9.10, yes. well, failing that you can get the source and compile it yourself i guess
[20:35] <optgeek> I'm getting ubuntu 8.04 to run on a LTSP, but I'm having some issues with it's network controller (RDC R6040). Looks like the right modules are loaded and the interface is up, but when I lspci it's ID, it seems like it's not using the module. Any ideas or starting point?
[20:35] <edbian> genii, I'm looking for a way to update all of the software on all my clients with one command (probably from the server but you know)
[20:35] <mtnbkr> sebsebseb": thanks for that... it is 8.04.3 LTS, relase 8.04 "Hardy"
[20:36] <edbian> genii, Is there no way to centrally administer packages for all of my clients?
[20:36] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr:  and the acstaul server version?
[20:36] <mtnbkr> vox: yeah, while i am quite capable of that (been doing this morethan 12 years, I am trying as best as I can to adhere to this distro's way of doing things where possible. :)
[20:36] <ilowe> edbian: How about "for host in host1 host2 host3; do ssh $host "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade"; done"?
[20:36] <vox> edbian: there are programs around that will do group-login-and-execute, just do some googling
[20:36] <joeyeye> ilowe: I think that Domain=[value] is really the hostname/computer name of the Windoze computer, and not the workgroup name ...
[20:36] <blkdg> thanks anyhow
[20:36] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: with no GUI
[20:36] <Manifest> How do I make an adhoc network?
[20:37] <pradeep> sound not working on my system
[20:37] <ilowe> joeyeye: not in my domain; when I do the smbclient bit, I get my actual domain/workgroup
[20:37] <edbian> ilowe, brilliant! :)
[20:37] <ilowe> edbian: thanks, can I quote you? ;)
[20:37] <mtnbkr> sebsebseb: that is all it really said...  nothing about a "server version"  and if possible I am pretty sure I would have installed it with NO GUI too. ;)
[20:37] <ilowe> joeyeye: are you showing the name of the machine?
[20:37] <edbian> ilowe, absolutely ! :)
[20:37] <joeyeye> ilowe: hmm... i get hostname for all machines I smbclient to ...
[20:37] <Manifest> How do I make an adhoc network?
[20:37] <genii> edbian: There is an ssh which works on multiple boxes... offhand i forget the name however
[20:38] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, no, my workgroup has always been workgroup
[20:38] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: Did you install the desktop version and then put server stuff on it?
[20:38] <edbian> ilowe, The only problem is that I have to have an ssh server running on every client (silly)
[20:38] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: can you please double-check on your windows machine?
[20:38] <epple> is there anyone on fiber here?
[20:38] <Manifest> How do I make an adhoc network?
[20:38] <ilowe> edbian: yeah, that's true; but you can set them up to auto-auth with ssh keys, it's not so bad that way
[20:38] <nocleader> Manifest: AdHoc means one wireless connected to another; no gatway needed I suppose
[20:38] <Laque> Moofius: I generally put the stuff I want to startup in /etc/rc.local However, you could just add what you need started to the startup applications
[20:39] <Moofius> and how do I do that then?
[20:39] <Manifest> nocleader: I know, I need this for my phone, how do I connect to it?
[20:39] <hikenboot> hello i have an intel video adapter in a emachine intel  82945G.GZ I would like to get the 32 bit opengl components installed and working...the people at winehq tells me this is the problem with running a game...anyone know how to go about it?
[20:39] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: There is a special server version with a special server kernel and that
[20:39] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe,   before when i went into network my computers were all on the first screen, not now
[20:39] <alabd>  is related to this sox -n -t ossdsp /dev/dsp synth 1.0 sine 2000-4000 sine 4000-2000 ,how to last alarm more ?
[20:40] <Laque> Moofius: do you need this to startup with your pc or upon login?
[20:40] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: Intel graphics card in 9.04?
[20:40] <mtnbkr> sebsebseb: It has been a few months but I am 99.99% sure I installed the server version afterall, it was intended to be the Email/collaberation server for a small/medium sized private boarding school.    I have no use for GUIs on my servers. :)    and would have installed the smallest possible amount of packages too.
[20:40] <mordocai> I was trying earlier to install ubuntu 9.10 x64 on my desktop. I wanted every mount point(/home / /usr etc.) to have its own partition. However, if I set it up like this, my PC would reboot when trying to copy data to the partitions. This did not happen on my laptop with ubuntu 9.10 i386. Anyone have any ideas why this wouldn't work?
[20:40] <nocleader> Manifest: for voip I suppose?
[20:40] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe,  like i said asus1 on workgroup
[20:40] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: LOL... if you want to use the "shotgun approach" you can try "dpkg-reconfigure -a" which might work to reset all the settings of all packages...
[20:40] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: ok simple question, did it come with a GUI or not?
[20:40] <Moofius> Laque: Startup :)
[20:41] <conb123> Hiya due to some really annoying permission errors i have to run wine as root with sudo, but i am now trying to install some winetricks fonts and it returns 'You (root) don't own /home/connor', which chmod option can i use to change the permissions so that i can still create and delete files in ~ but i will be able to run winetricks?
[20:41] <hikenboot> yes 9.04 jaunty
[20:41] <ilowe> edbian: you can also check out the "unattended-upgrades" package which (with a bit of tweaking) might be what you want
[20:41] <edbian> I'm still having trouble finding something.  Windows has "Windows Update Server"  So that you can administer updates to all of your clients.  Is there something like that for linux (ubuntu) ?
[20:41] <Laque> Moofius: definitely put it in /etc/rc.local then. either add a line to execute the file you put in, or put the contents in rc.local
[20:41] <edbian> ilowe, I'll take a look at that.
[20:41] <guntbert_> !9.10 | mordocai
[20:41] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, i really wanted to know what happened and why, so as to "trust it " again
[20:41] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: as long as you got the server version well no problem,  and  LTS's get five years of support on the server,  with the next  LTS being 10.04 in April 2010
[20:41] <perlsyntax> what ubuntu 9.10 had the new python and perl?
[20:41] <joeyeye> ilowe: I get hostname in the Domain=[value] for all machines I smbclient to ...
[20:42] <mordocai> guntbert: Yeah, sorry... just realized i mistyped. It was 9.04
[20:42] <ilowe> edbian: if you set up unattended with a local package cache then you get a similar setup to WUS
[20:42] <perlsyntax> is there a new iso out for it
[20:42] <edbian> ilowe, Thank you!
[20:42] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: you can also  upgrade an LTS directly to a later LTS,  where as if you use  non LTS releases you have to go through releases untill you have another LTS, to be able to directly upgrade to another LTS
[20:42] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, at this point whatever you think is best, lets do
[20:42] <ilowe> joeyeye: weird... I clearly show the domain
[20:42] <subone> #ati
[20:42] <perlsyntax> ?
[20:42] <hikenboot> sebsebseb, yes 9.04 jaunty...sorry didnt address you ;-)
[20:42] <red-spider> hello
[20:42] <red-spider> i have a problem
[20:42] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: uh?
[20:42] <red-spider> i bought a gentoo pc the other day
[20:42] <perlsyntax> hello
[20:42] <mtnbkr> sebsebseb: right, and that is why I am pretty ure I did server for them.    also, remotely logged in and I see NO x-related stuff in /etc/init.d and my client at the server console just confirmed that there is NO gui. :)
[20:42] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: frankly I'm not sure what's going on; if it is indeed a settings file that was replaced, the "shotgun" line above might help
[20:42] <red-spider> anyways guys
[20:42] <guntbert_> !9.10 > perlsyntax
[20:42] <red-spider> can somone help me
[20:42] <red-spider> i bought a pc with gentoo on
[20:43] <red-spider> and it failed to work so
[20:43] <Laque> Anyone on changing the colour buttons highlight with on rollover?
[20:43] <yaris123456789> my web host says "we provide IPs in different randomly allotted blocks. 8 IPs (5 Usable) (monthly $5.00)" waht does this mean? are these like class-c ip ?
[20:43] <red-spider> ffs
[20:43] <red-spider> guys?
[20:43] <red-spider> anyone
[20:43] <guntbert_> !enter | red-spider
[20:43] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: if you installed this today, I'll tuck my tail between my legs and suggest that you re-install
[20:43] <Moofius> Laque: found it out myself, "sudo update-rc.d nginx start 51 S ."
[20:43] <red-spider> okay
[20:43] <talntid> red-spider: you havn't even asked a question, ffs
[20:43] <hikenboot> b back one min
[20:43] <Laque> Moofius: ah XD i'll remember that for next time
[20:43] <talntid> you have just told us you bought a pc with gentoo.
[20:43] <mtnbkr> so getting back to my original question... why would the bacula package currently available be so old?  And how can I tell if the newest version will be in 9.10 before I make the upgred (or do a vm test install etc)
[20:43] <guntbert_> Moofius: thx for reporting back - I just couldn't remember that as well :)
[20:44] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, there is about 4 packages to reinstall, it is completely deletable
[20:44] <red-spider> i bought a gentoo pc the other day and my mate dared me to do somethign and he opened the cd tray and before i knew it my balls where stuck ni a closing disc tray can anybody help?
[20:44] <red-spider> im in pain
[20:44] <Moofius> It almost felt like you thought I was using a gui for a moment, blashphemy!
[20:44] <perlsyntax> what the best linux out that base on ubuntu?
[20:44] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: OK, then try the shotgun line above before you re-install :)
[20:44] <billybigrigger> can anyone suggest a good newsreader for ubuntu? that handles nzb?
[20:44] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: it might just work
[20:44] <jrib> !ot | red-spider
[20:44] <VCoolio> Laque: you mean buttons in gtk-theme? hack into the gtkrc file of the theme
[20:44] <red-spider> i bought a ubuntu pc the other day and my mate dared me to do somethign and he opened the cd tray and before i knew it my balls where stuck ni a closing disc tray can anybody help?
[20:44] <red-spider> im in painb
[20:44] <brado> Hi using Ubuntu 9.04 want to connect (VPN) to Cisco RVS4000 anyone got this to work?
[20:45] <jrib> red-spider: take it elsewhere.
[20:45] <red-spider> can somone help?
[20:45] <red-spider> jrib its serious
[20:45] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: you probably don't  even need to upgrade the  file system on the server any time soon if ever really, where as many desktop Ubuntu users should be clean installing realy when 9.10 is out and  giving it a try with default Ext4, plus they got something else that also makes boot up much faster
[20:45] <red-spider> my fuckin balls hurt
[20:45] <talntid> red-spider: bye
[20:45] <ilowe> lol
[20:45] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, ok, for my info, what exactly are we doing with thAt one? super-reset sorta?
[20:45] <mtnbkr> buh bye red-spider.
[20:45] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: you are asking to reconfigure all installed packages
[20:46] <JoeNu2Linux> ok
[20:46] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: usually that will reset any changes to the "factory default"
[20:46] <Laque> VCoolio: the 8.04 i used before had all highlighted items as the colour i selected in the theme. now using 9.04 and only the highlight on icons has changed to the selected colour
[20:46] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: make sure you select "accept package maintainer's version" if you are asked abot replacing files
[20:46] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: I think this answers your questions nicely,  good luck with your server, and try and get the desktops using LInux to ideally :)
[20:46] <Laque> VCoolio: every theme i pick keeps this orange on buttons thing, regardless of the colour i pick. very frustrating
[20:46] <JoeNu2Linux> ok
[20:47] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, here we go !
[20:47] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: :)
[20:47] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, shall i leave xchat ?
[20:47] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: no need
[20:48] <chilicuil> hi, I'm running ubuntu 9.04, and for some unknown reason my /etc/init.d/apache2 gets overwrite every 3-5 reboots, it goes to /etc/init.d/apache2.X where X is an integer, so it doesnt boot at start up, I've checked the permisions and they both have the same, I've not upgrade the apache deamon, so I've no idea why is this happening, any help is welcome
[20:48] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: oh you have another question  or the original question that I just saw, ok right
[20:48] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: Ubuntu only do security updates from the repo
[20:48] <VCoolio> Laque: can you paste a link to a screenshot?
[20:49] <brado> RVS4000 VPN connection from Ubuntu 9.04 anyone?
[20:49] <Laque> VCoolio: sure
[20:49] <Universal> sebsebseb, you from aussie, no?
[20:49] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, must be root?
[20:49] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: so yes stuff in  8.04  is  going to get old,  but ppa's can be used for a lot of later  stuff,  or you could install it yourself in another way
[20:49] <sebsebseb> Universal: Why?
[20:49] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: yep: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a"
[20:49] <Universal> Lol, ah, you remind me of a seb from malvager
[20:50] <guntbert_> !ot  | Universal
[20:50] <sebsebseb> Universal: What???  or  who is that even?
[20:50] <mtnbkr> sebsebseb: ppa's ?
[20:50] <sebsebseb> !ppa >  mtnbkr
[20:51] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: ok what the bot pm'd you doesn't really explan it, but I will
[20:51] <mtnbkr> So, how can I tell what repo a newer version of bacula-client might be in so that I might add it to my apt configs?
[20:51] <aayush> hi all
[20:51] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: they are like mini repos that can be added
[20:51] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, this could be bad , questions LOL
[20:51] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: for newer versions of packages
[20:51] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: s'OK, what've you got?
[20:51] <aayush> any substitute for wine
[20:51] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: there won't be one for everything, but  a lot of major stuff there will be
[20:52] <JoeNu2Linux> Ileden_, adduser?
[20:52] <sebsebseb> aayush: a Windows virtual machine?
[20:52] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, i hit enter
[20:52] <mtnbkr> yeah, Ok... in Gentoo they are called "overlays"   I get it... but still I am sort of stuck with that old version without some work on my end then. :)
[20:52] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: that's fine, accept all the defaults
[20:52] <aayush> seb: but vmware is not free
[20:52] <sebsebseb> aayush: Virtualbox :)
[20:52] <mtnbkr> Vmware-server is free
[20:52] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me setup dhcp3-server?  I have it configured similar to another server at work, but it does not seem to be functioning.  My laptop is not getting a lease.  Server(eth1)->switch->Laptop
[20:52] <joebodo_> vmware has a free vrsion
[20:52] <sebsebseb> aayush: also VMware player and VMware server are free, they just aren't that good
[20:53] <kraito> were can i get new themes?
[20:53] <sebsebseb> or at least last time I tried them
[20:53] <mtnbkr> JuJuBee: tail-f  /var/log/message |grep dhcp  while your laptop is attempting
[20:53] <sebsebseb> !themes |  kraito
[20:53]  * javatexan happy
[20:53] <mtnbkr> oops /var/log/messages
[20:53] <JuJuBee> aayush: I  have used both, I prefer virtualbox
[20:53] <hikenboot> sebsebseb, yes I am using 9.04 jaunty on this machine and its an intel 82945G/GZ video card how do i get the opengl 32 bit components working so the Last Choas will work on wine?
[20:53] <JuJuBee> thanks mtnbkr  I will try
[20:53] <aayush> juju: thanks
[20:53] <joebodo_> vmware is the leader for virt software
[20:54] <Moofius> someone make a program that automatically decides if it is a .tar.bz2 .tar.gz .zip whatever file, I'm tired of trying to remember all commands that unpacks em :/
[20:54] <iGama> joebodo_, that does not mean its the best
[20:54] <mtnbkr> sebsebseb: hmmm... I use vmware-server here to run two Linux vms on a Linux server and things run quite well.   No complaints at all.   All in only 4GB ram on the physical server too.
[20:54] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: ppa's can sometimes mess stuff up apparantly,  but usaully they will be ok,   as a result though you shoudn't get loads of them,   and the ppa sites tend to be on luanchpad.  If there isn't a ppa for  what you want, you can  maybe find an Ubuntu Deb  for it, or  of course you can compile from source
[20:54] <mtnbkr> Moofius: file
[20:55] <iGama> joebodo_, in server xen, kvm are rock solid
[20:55] <joebodo_> igama regardless, it is good
[20:55] <Technoviking> how do I add an ubuntu-bug report to an existing bug in LP?
[20:55] <iGama> joebodo_, yes its good
[20:55] <Moofius> always having to google "unpack .tar.bz2" then finding the 3rd result actually saying a working answer
[20:55] <Anonymust> Help me, Masters of Ubuntu, you're my only hope...
[20:55] <javatexan> I am having trouble ssh tunneling from ubuntu to a windows server share (samba) at work.  I figured I would have to set this up somehow via my linux server at work, but I have not been able to get it to work?  anyone already doing this sort of thing?
[20:55] <mtnbkr> javatexan: that won't work...
[20:56] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: I don't know about that, but I do know that Intel graphics cards  can get right problems with 9.04, does yours work  properly otherwise?
[20:56] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: not getting anything...
[20:56] <ilowe> mtnbkr: are you looking for this? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bacula/+archive/ppa
[20:56] <Moofius> mtnbkr: that gives what type of file it is, but getting that it's a bzip2 does not help me to remember the "tar xzcvfdsfge" command
[20:56] <mtnbkr> ssh will allow you to create TCP tunnels but windows "sharing" is a combination of TCP and UDP   you need to look into a VPN (openVPN maybe?)
[20:57] <Afzal> I have problem with xserver, Description:	Ubuntu karmic (development branch) Release:9.10
[20:57] <Pici> Afzal : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[20:57] <sebsebseb> Afzal: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic
[20:57] <hikenboot> sebsebseb, yes it seems to work fine for them except that it wont run the wine games (which they need in order to make the switch from windows)
[20:57] <iGama> javatexan, a VPN would be the best solution
[20:57] <aayush> thanks a ton i have placed on download lets c
[20:57] <mtnbkr> ilowe: YES!    I think so!  Thanks for the link
[20:57] <Afzal> #hiken-boot thanks
[20:57] <ilowe> mtnbkr: no problem :)
[20:57] <undeconstructed> hello, has anyone found that since yesterday they can't boot anymore?
[20:58] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: there are also commercial verisons of Wine that yes are meant to be paid for,  that sometimes games work better in
[20:58] <rafael> Hi, can someone recommend me a good software to organize a small library. I need to store books name, isbn, author, etc... I have googled for it but saw nothing promissor
[20:58] <undeconstructed> running karmic that is, I should have said
[20:58] <sebsebseb> undeconstructed: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic
[20:58] <javatexan> IGama, I would agree, but the vpn is overloaded, so I was hoping that I could use ssh to the linux box who is visible to internet to do the same thing.
[20:59] <undeconstructed> oh right, thanks sebsebseb
[20:59] <brado> is there a better channel for VPN questions?
[20:59] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: any suggestions?  I even tried setting my ip on laptop manually and cannot ping the server interface (eth1)
[20:59] <andrew__> rafael, if you use facebook there is a good app called 'livingsocial'... other than that I don't know
[20:59] <sebsebseb> undeconstructed: np
[20:59] <rafael> andrew__: Is it free software?
[20:59] <guntbert_> brado: ##networking maybe?
[21:00] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, did it, no network, reboot?
[21:00] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: Which game is it?
[21:00] <hikenboot> thanks sebsebseb they cant afford to buy them right now
[21:00] <hikenboot> last choas
[21:00] <edbian> How does ubuntu build it's menus?  What binaries does it choose to include?
[21:00] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: what do you mean, no network?
[21:00] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: 2D or 3D?
[21:00] <Moofius> Is there a program that automatically extracts .tar.gz, tar.bz2 files and the like, without me having to find the correct options to "tar" or zip or rar to actually do it?
[21:00] <hikenboot> 3D
[21:00] <mtnbkr> rafael: Koha
[21:00] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: hmm
[21:00] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, still no network
[21:00] <rafael> mtnbkr: thanks..
[21:00] <iGama> Moofius, right click on the file, and press extract
[21:00] <Moofius> iGama: I'm not using a gui
[21:00] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: I haven't tried it personally for 3D gaming, but  Virtualbox 3.0+  have  support for Direct3D 8 or whatever, so maybe it will work in that
[21:00] <mtnbkr> JuJuBee: your "DHCP problem" now appears to not be a DHCP problem at all...   :)
[21:00] <iGama> oo ok
[21:01] <hikenboot> sebsebseb, they tell me in winehq its an opengl problem
[21:01] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: of course they need enough RAM to  run a Windows virtual machine
[21:01] <iGama> Moofius, in that case i don't know :)
[21:01] <rafael> mtnbkr: Do you have experience with it? is it possible to consult books online?
[21:01] <andrew__> rafael, yes it is free to use... i don't think it is open sourced however... more of a service they provide on facebook.  they may have a stand alone program, but I am unaware of one.  e-mail them.  they intend you to add books you have read, and want to read and it shares that information with your friends
[21:01] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, should i reboot?
[21:01] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: I think you are correct.  But eth1 appears to be up and I know the switch is working...
[21:01] <foofish> Moofius: apt-get install unp
[21:01] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: in general, you *never* need to reboot with Linux (except if you just upgraded the kernel)
[21:02] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: I guess that didn't really help much :(
[21:02] <mtnbkr> rafael: It is a pretty extensive system for real Libraries and I have a little expeieince with it  - but only in the installation side. I have zero expericnce in ILSs
[21:02] <mtnbkr> rafael: sorry. :)    BUT Koha is a HIGHLY rated ILS. which is what I think you are looking for.
[21:02] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, was worth a try
[21:02] <strelok_evil> witam.
[21:02] <rafael> andref__: Thanks, but I don't want something free as in not pay. But free as free software (freedom)
[21:02] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: Sorry I couldn't help *more* :)
[21:02] <strelok_evil> oh, sorry hello
[21:02] <mtnbkr> JuJuBee: OK, can you ping your OWN IP address that you set on the laptop from the laptop?
[21:03] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: I have this stuff working here, so I know it's possible!
[21:03] <JuJuBee> yes
[21:03] <JoeNu2Linux> ilowe, thx tho
[21:03] <ilowe> JoeNu2Linux: you got it
[21:03] <rafael> mtnbkr: Gonna take a look. I found another gnutella, but I can't seem where to download the new version. Thanks..
[21:03] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: There are also some pretty good native games for Linux, people just need to know about them
[21:03] <Laque> VCoolio: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1289516/Screenshot1.png
[21:03] <thiebaude> !games
[21:03] <strelok_evil> Somebody has tested ubuntu 9.10?
[21:03] <Moofius> foofish: Thanks, that little program will save me so much time :)
[21:03] <Laque> VCoolio: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1289516/Screenshot2.png
[21:03] <sebsebseb> strelok_evil: yes and #ubuntu+1 is the channel for it
[21:03] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: scratch that. I cannot now....
[21:04] <sebsebseb> strelok_evil: well until it's released that is
[21:04] <mtnbkr> JuJuBee: does ifconfig show eth0?  eth1? eth2 maybe even?
[21:04] <danlii> How do I change the default locale from utf8 to iso8859-1?
[21:04] <mtnbkr> JuJuBee: maybe you are working with the wrong interface (or Ubuntu changed it on you at some point)    I haev seen this in other distros.
[21:04] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: Dual booting for only one game,  isn't that bad really,  as long as Windows is secure enough as well of course, if Internet connected
[21:05] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: on the server?  I have eth0 (my outside connection) and eth1(my inside connection)
[21:05] <mtnbkr> sebsebseb: heh you just said windows, secure AND Internet in the same sentence   :)
[21:05] <VCoolio> Laque: what theme are you using? check in either ~/.themes/<themename> or /usr/share/themes/<themename>  if there is a folder "buttons" with an image with "prelight" in the name
[21:05] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: There are ways to make Windows reasonably secure
[21:06] <hikenboot> thanks sebsebseb
[21:06] <Tbag1> hi
[21:06] <mtnbkr> JuJuBee: on the laptop... see what ifconfig shows for all interfaces.
[21:07] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: I can now ping the interface on laptop
[21:07] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: try Virtualbox I suppouse
[21:07] <JuJuBee> It was still set to dhcp... set ip manually
[21:07] <Laque> VCoolio: custom theme, New Wave Dark Menus, Green and Grey Colours, Clearlooks Window Border, Delta Icons, Default Pointer
[21:07] <mtnbkr> JuJuBee: from where? the laptop or the server?
[21:07] <sebsebseb> hikenboot: or ask in #vbox if that game will  maybe work in there
[21:07] <JuJuBee> the laptop...
[21:07] <hikenboot> ok thanks
[21:07] <VCoolio> Laque: new wave then; probably in /usr/share/themes; if there are no images paste the gtkrc file; I'll see if I can point you to the lines you need to edit
[21:07] <javatexan> here's an ugly idea...I guess I could mount the windows share to my linux box since they are both behind firewall, then I should be able to ssh to linux box or even just make a nautilis bookmark to it....man that is ugly though....I was hoping for a cleaner, more secure way of doing this.
[21:07] <mtnbkr> sebsebseb: I won;t comment on that any further. :)
[21:08] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: heh
[21:08] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: I guess
[21:08] <Tbag1> Hi, can anyone here help me with a wlan/wpa issue?
[21:08] <Anonymust> I need help with my keyboard prefs, please.
[21:08] <mtnbkr> JuJuBee: so from the laptop you can ping the laptop's IP address, but NOT the server's Ip address
[21:08] <Laque> VCoolio: yep, it's images
[21:08] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: correct
[21:08] <Laque> VCoolio: I'll just gimp them
[21:09] <mtnbkr> and on the laptop  ifconfig shows how may "eth" interfaces?
[21:09] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: hikenboot   in fact  the most secure way to run Windows would be in a virtual machine,  where  you can do normal things to make it reasonably secure as well,  then if you get infected or whatever,  just delete  the virtual hard disk it's on like a normal file, and use a clean copy, or re install onto a new virtual hard disk
[21:09] <VCoolio> Laque: it'll need root permissions; better copy them to your desktop, then gimp, then sudo mv back or "gksudo nautilus"
[21:09] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: the laptop has only one wired interface
[21:10] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: the wired interface works because I had it connected to the wifi router and it was obtaining an ip
[21:10] <Laque> VCoolio: meh, i just used gksudo nautilus lol\
[21:10] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr:   hikenboot  easier than having to remove an infected partition
[21:10] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: trying to set up a firewall/content filter on server
[21:10] <Anonymust> I also need help with sound. I have absolutely no sound, but the OS recognizes the hardware, and everything seems to be ok... but there is no sound...
[21:11] <VCoolio> Laque: or copy the whole theme to ~/.themes, change the name to something else (also in the index.theme file) and then mess around whenever you want
[21:11] <Ozzy> Hey all, does anyone know why /boot/menu.lst would be totally empty?
[21:11] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: how can I check that eth1 on server is actually working properly?
[21:11] <Laque> VCoolio: sounds good
[21:11] <hikenboot> well i have created a separate linux partition for running the game in wine in a separate bottle shoudl be good enough
[21:11] <Anonymust> I've looked the problem up, I've followed instructions to the T, still, no sound.
[21:11] <Anonymust> Uninstalled/reinstalled ALSA
[21:12] <arcsky> if i want that my histroy to be bigger how can i fix that?
[21:12] <Ozzy> Does anyone know how to configure grub 2 to add boot parameters?
[21:12] <sebsebseb> Ozzy: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:12] <mtnbkr> JuJuBee: same way    what does ifconfgi eth1 on the server show for the ipaddr line?
[21:12] <genii> sebsebseb: That is NOT grub2 way
[21:12] <bastid_raZor> Ozzy: ask i #ubuntu+1 for grub2 since that would be karmic
[21:13] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: it shows the ip address I assigned via /etc/network/interfaces
[21:13] <Ozzy> sebsebseb: menu.lst is completely empty and contains nothing
[21:13] <genii> !grub2 | Ozzy
[21:13] <sebsebseb> genii: oh Grub2
[21:13] <mtnbkr> sebsebseb: in Vmware workstation I often take a snapshot before "using" the Windows amchine.   Then when I am done I can just revert to the pre-use snapshot  that is fast and easy too
[21:13] <tLoFP> I put puppy linux on an old laptop of mine, and wihin its repository is "clamav An anti-virus utility for Unix" can someone explain to my why this is there? I thought the whole point of unix/linux was the fact that we dont need one
[21:14] <sebsebseb> mtnbkr: yep  that's another good way to do a Windows virtual machine
[21:14] <Ozzy> genii: my problem is with why there is nothing in menu.lst, not how to use grub 2
[21:14] <sebsebseb> Ozzy: it doesn't use menu.lst anymore
[21:14] <Ozzy> genii: but possibly they may be connected
[21:14] <genii> Ozzy: Grub2 DOESN'T USE menu.lst
[21:14] <sebsebseb> Ozzy: you got Grub 2 in 9.04?
[21:14] <Ozzy> Thanks everyone. that would be my problem :P
[21:15] <Factran> Hi ! the screen resolution of my pc is ok in X, but i've got only a small screen in the terminal (boot, and Ctrl+ ALT+F1) What should I do ?
[21:15] <Ben> \nick benn
[21:15] <sebsebseb> genii: Yes it's not time yet, plus this is sort of the wrong channel, but i'll take this oppertunity to ask you.   When Karmic is relased can a 9.04 Ext4 install be upgraded without problems, and get the later Grub and all that?
[21:16] <genii> sebsebseb: I upgraded a 9.04/ext4 to 9.10/ext4 without issues, but kept in that case grub1
[21:17] <sebsebseb> genii: apparantly 9.04  has a beta or something for Grub 2, when Ext4 is done?
[21:17] <bastid_raZor> Factran:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution  this will solve your issue.
[21:17] <Factran> bastid_raZor: great, thatsPipe
[21:17] <Factran> oupss
[21:17] <Factran> i meant great, bastid_raZor  thanks !!
[21:17] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: any ideas?  I got booted off for a minute and didn't realize it...
[21:17] <genii> sebsebseb: Not sure, sorry
[21:17] <bastid_raZor> Factran: good luck.
[21:18] <bennnnnn> hey so im trying to put ubuntu server edition 32bit on an olddddd xp comupter (yah i know stupid idea to start with) andddd i cannot get it to boot from the disk, i downloaded mit labs .iso file burned to to a cd on my macosx computer, now im trying to boot up to it from the old xp computer via an ide cd drive, and i keep getting an error : STRIKE f1 to retry boot..... anyone know y?
[21:18] <sirsmilealot> hello!
[21:18] <monkey_d_luffy> I use file-roller in KDE, but when I double click to open a file, it uses gnome file settings associations instead of KDE... any way to fix this??
[21:19] <sebsebseb> genii: but kept  in that case grub1,   you mean  it will keep whatever Grub 9.04 has when Ext4 is done probably?   which is fine as long as  long as I can boot stuff from it
[21:19] <sirsmilealot> can anyone offer ideas as to why I can get audio working on my HP dv6 laptop? I managed to get this going by adding the line 'options snd-hda-intel model=hp-m4 enable_msi=1' to my '/etc/modprobe.d/sound' file when using OpenSUSE
[21:19] <sirsmilealot> cant*
[21:19] <mtnbkr> ilowe: even that PPS seem to only have 2.2.8 for Hardy. :(
[21:19] <genii> sebsebseb: It gave me the option which to use, for safety I kept the old working setup of grub1
[21:19] <mtnbkr> ilowe: PPA
[21:20] <damjan_> how to make virtual 2 network cards in network manager and switch betwen them
[21:20] <hector> g
[21:20] <phill_> join
[21:20] <phill_> \
[21:20] <phill_> #
[21:20] <phill_> :
[21:20] <FloodBot2> phill_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:21] <sebsebseb> genii: ok this sounds good :) and thanks    Well i'll clean install this one in November that I been testing karmic on since alpha 4, and probably upgrade the other with 9.04 as well.
[21:21] <mtnbkr> JuJuBee: I think you need to redefine the original problem/question   We seem to have gone down a few roads and are right back at the beginning. :)   Plus if you re ask others may be able to jump in.   I may need to be running shortly
[21:21] <Hans_Henrik> does ubuntu got support for Intel Turbo Memory?
[21:22] <lildemon> hello
[21:22] <lildemon> can anyone help me with a problem that i have
[21:22] <phill_> whats the problem
[21:22] <phill_> is it nose hair
[21:22] <lildemon> i have installed ubuntu 9.04 on a usb
[21:23] <damjan_> hy, I got question
[21:23] <sebsebseb> !ask
[21:23] <sebsebseb> damjan_: oh you already did
[21:23] <lildemon> ok let me take it from the beggining
[21:23] <damjan_> yes , I know, but I did not get answer
[21:23] <sebsebseb> !patience |  damjan_
[21:24] <damjan_> ok tnx
[21:24] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: weird, I just plugged my server (eth1) into my wifi router and set it to dhcp (eth1)  and it got inet addr:208.67.217.132  but my laptop gets a 192.168.1.100 address  very weird...
[21:24] <phill_> internal ip address range from the routers dhcp server
[21:25] <phill_> your router is acting as i should
[21:25] <phill_> it*
[21:25] <buttons840> i'm using ssh in the terminal, how can i scoll up and see what is "above the screen" in terminal?
[21:25] <genii> buttons840: shift-pageup
[21:25] <vox> buttons840: shift-pgup
[21:25] <JuJuBee> phill_: really?  2 computers plugged in to same rtr and get completely diff ip's?
[21:25] <Factran> bastid_raZor  : It worked perfectly. But I had already a more serious problem : X doesn't launch everytime. After the boot, just after "Launching gdm", sometimes the pc has a blank (and/or black) screen. From this point, I'm unable to switch console. And ubuntu doesn't launch. Any ideas ?
[21:26] <JuJuBee> don't think so...
[21:26] <buttons840> what is the best way to copy and paste several lines from the terminal (using ssh)
[21:26] <mtnbkr> JuJuBee: That is strange   UNLESS your router has one or more ports bridged to the WAN port.
[21:26] <lildemon> i installed ubuntu 9.04 live cd.iso file on a usb following a guide. i can run the usb in boot but what happends is that after ubuntu loads i only get a black screen cant see anything. if u have any soloutions please tell me
[21:26] <buttons840> genii, the page up combo might be difficult to use with copy paste, any other options?
[21:26] <mtnbkr> buttons840: screen
[21:26] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: WAN port is disconnected.  THis is a test router
[21:26] <bastid_raZor> Factran: when this happens check ~/.xsession-errors for possible hints
[21:27] <JuJuBee> Sounds to me like eth1 on server is not working properly
[21:27] <Factran> ok
[21:27] <mtnbkr> buttons840:  that is just one (minor) feature of screen...   Once you begin to use screen you will not be able to manage servers without it. :)
[21:27] <einstein1969> hi, there is a software for drive a pll for change a fsb?
[21:27] <genii> buttons840: If you're trying to copy a bunch of terminal output to for instance an online pastebin, use pastebinit
[21:27] <lildemon> i installed ubuntu 9.04 live cd.iso file on a usb following a guide. i can run the usb in boot but what happends is that after ubuntu loads i only get a black screen cant see anything. if u have any soloutions please tell me
[21:27] <vap> Is there a way to download a file in the 9.10 distribution for use in 9.04? In particular, I'm looking for gawk 3.1.7. Thanks
[21:27] <buttons840> mtnbkr, actually, i am using screen, and i don't see that feature working
[21:27] <mtnbkr> JuJuBee: then that is really bizzare.   that thing should be handing out 192.168.1.0/24 addresses like the one your laptop got.
[21:28] <sebsebseb> vap: uhmm  probably not exactly
[21:28] <sebsebseb> vap: well you shoudn't use Karmic packages in 9.04
[21:28] <BaGy> lildemon, do you have installed driver for your grapich card?
[21:28] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: I know that.  How can I diagnose my eth1 in server
[21:28] <sebsebseb> vap: there is however a backports repo, and ppa's
[21:28] <lildemon> how can i do that on a usb?
[21:28] <evilreign> Yay, I got in.
[21:28] <evilreign> Ok, so here's a very weird question
[21:28] <evilreign> I've come to the conclusion the box I have i can't run a raid on it... I'm attempting a RAID 1...
[21:29] <evilreign> And IDE just won't cut it unless I spree for the RAID controller as the bus will cut the speed of the hdd's in half.
[21:29] <guntbert> buttons840: you should have told us about screen, there the scrolling is done differently
[21:29] <vap> sebsebseb: thanks man, i'll see what I can do
[21:29] <mtnbkr> JuJuBee: set it back to the IP you wanted manually and plug in your laptop to the eth1 of the server with a crossover cable, set the laptop to a manual ip in the same subnet and see if they can ping each other. If yes, then there is something wrong with your router/switch dealie
[21:29] <lildemon> Bagy: how can i install my graphics driver on a USB=
[21:29] <evilreign> So, is there a VERY decent premade Raid box anyone would suggest?
[21:29] <ioka> if anyone has problems with b43 driver and broadcm wifi cards you need to change the firmware in the wifi card.type dmsg and you will see the errors.Not sure about the command.
[21:29] <damjan_> How to get settings from /etc/network/interfaces/ to run
[21:30] <micia> ciao
[21:30] <buttons840> guntbert, ok, i'm using screen, how can i scroll and select many lines to copy/paste?   (i prefer not to install a new app like pastebin it just to paste a few lines)
[21:30] <lildemon> i installed ubuntu 9.04 live cd.iso file on a usb following a guide. i can run the usb in boot but what happends is that after ubuntu loads i only get a black screen cant see anything. if u have any soloutions please tell me
[21:30] <ioka> cya guys
[21:30] <JuJuBee> mtnbkr: switch is fine as well as router,  They both work in other instances... in my prev setup...Has to be eth1 on server...
[21:30] <guntbert> buttons840: its called "copy mode" and reached with ctrl+a <esc>
[21:30] <buttons840> guntbert, thanks
[21:30] <genii> damjan_: Usually sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart                   or so
[21:30] <micia> !list
[21:30] <guntbert> buttons840: you are welcome :-)
[21:30] <sebsebseb> vap: np
[21:30] <micia> !list
[21:30] <lildemon> i installed ubuntu 9.04 live cd.iso file on a usb following a guide. i can run the usb in boot but what happends is that after ubuntu loads i only get a black screen cant see anything. if u have any soloutions please tell me
[21:31] <mtnbkr> evilreign: Drobo?    Kind of expensive though
[21:31]  * benpro is going to sleep, bye :)
[21:31] <buttons840> guntbert, how does it work, it still doesn't scrol
[21:31] <buttons840> guntbert,  let me check my screen version
[21:32] <guntbert> buttons840: cursor keys up/dn
[21:32] <j2daosh> i need to tar up multiple folders. do i do that by doing: tar -czf $zipfile dir1,dir2,dir3?
[21:32] <LeNsTR> morning
[21:33] <lildemon> can anyone tell me how to install graphics driver on a USB running ubuntu linux
[21:33] <buttons840> guntbert, i suppose i can also just pipe the app into a file?     asterisk -r > txtfile.txt  ?
[21:33] <mtnbkr> j2daosh: lose the commas, and make sure $zipfile is assigned
[21:34] <BaGy> lildemon, what is your graph card?
[21:34] <BaGy> ATI or nvdia?
[21:34] <j2daosh> mtnbkr: change the commas to spaces then?
[21:34] <lildemon> nvidia
[21:34] <losha> j2daosh: Verify the zipfile (actually a compressed tarfile) afterwards by doing tar tvzf $zipfile ....
[21:34] <guntbert> buttons840: yes, but what about screen?
[21:34] <lildemon> but i also want it to work on any computer
[21:34] <pbailey> greetings from croatia
[21:34] <lildemon> i want to be able to run it from any computer
[21:34] <BaGy> lildemon, go to hardware drivers
[21:34] <mnaines1> lildemon, you would have to reinstall the drivers on every computer you run on
[21:34] <buttons840> guntbert, yes, with ctrl a esc i can move the cursor up, but i cannot select many lines at once
[21:35] <lildemon> ok but how do i install my graphics driver
[21:35] <guntbert> buttons840: use the mouse?
[21:35] <lildemon> i cant see anything
[21:35] <BaGy> lildemon, go to hardware drivers and see do you have a driver
[21:35] <buttons840> guntbert, i mean i start to drag my mouse selection towards the top of the screen, and it just stops instead of scrolling, i can't mouse select anything outside the visable screen
[21:35] <BaGy> ok
[21:36] <lildemon> im booting from a usb driver
[21:36] <lildemon> i mean
[21:36] <lildemon> USB
[21:36] <guntbert> buttons840: I didn't need it - but have a look at man screen :)
[21:37] <mtnbkr> j2daosh: re: commas   yes
[21:37] <mnaines1> lildemon: You cannot save the drivers from one computer and use them on another
[21:37] <lildemon> what i want to do is
[21:37] <guntbert> buttons840: use <space> to start marking, and then move and then <space> again
[21:38] <BaGy> lildemon, try to ask google
[21:38] <lildemon> ive just installed ubuntu linux 9.04 on a usb driver
[21:38] <lildemon> i did try BaGy
[21:38] <BaGy> omg
[21:38] <Thrae> Hey. My router's mdadm software raid setup is only partially working now. (Worked for years, and **I** messed it up) Whenever I create the array on one harddrive using "missing", it doesn't start when I switch to the other harddrive. Oddly enough, the same RAID1 setup for swap space is working fine. I've been troubleshooting for days. When I reboot and add in root=/dev/md0 (the new array), it'll eventually drop me to ...
[21:38] <Thrae> ... initramfs, and a viewing of dmesg shows mdadm thinks /dev/md0 has no devices. Yet mdadm --examine /dev/hda1 reports the superblock correctly, and says it's clean. But the kernel only auto-detects one raid device, and /proc/mdstat only shows one as well.
[21:38] <mnaines1> lildemon: I know what you want to do.  You are trying to run Linux Live, but I am telling you that you cannot save the drivers from one computer and use them on another computer
[21:38] <guntbert> !google | BaGy
[21:39] <Billiard> is it possible to mount iso9660 with the umask option, like with vfat, im getting a "bad option" error
[21:39] <lildemon> im trying to get my ubuntu linux to work
[21:39] <mnaines1> lildemon: You're running Ubuntu Live, right?
[21:39] <lildemon> yes
[21:39] <lildemon> well no
[21:40] <lildemon> im running linux through a USB but i cant right now cause i get a black scrren
[21:40] <lildemon> screen*
[21:40] <bastid_raZor> if i'm trying to use 'ls -al | grep [Ff]ile ..would that include F and f in file? or is my argument wrong?
[21:40] <mnaines1> lildemon: Now, listen, because I am only going over this once.  In a Linux Live configuration, you CANNOT save the drivers from one computer and use them on another
[21:40] <lildemon> skip the drivers
[21:40] <jbicha> lildemon: you're not using the Karmic beta, are you?
[21:40] <lildemon> no
[21:41] <Billiard> bastid_raZor: use egrep
[21:41] <mnaines1> lildemon: I fail to see what the problem is.  If you're not using a live setup, what exactly are you doing?
[21:41] <lildemon> im using Ubuntu Linux 9.04
[21:41] <BaGy> lildemon, you have black screen on login?
[21:41] <lildemon> yes
[21:41] <ph4t3> hi
[21:41] <lildemon> cant see anything after ubuntu loads
[21:42] <alabd> how to save pages as like as we use quiet while firefox/iceweasel crashs
[21:42] <bastid_raZor> Billiard: thanks, grep worked also. apparently i didn't have the file i was searching for.
[21:42] <lildemon> i cant see the login screen
[21:43] <lildemon> thats the problem
[21:43] <lildemon> i think
[21:43] <lildemon> well since i cant see anything after ubuntu loads
[21:43] <BaGy> lildemon, try to press Alt+F1 or start in recovery mode and try reconfigure xserver sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:43] <DarthArachides> since the last update, I am unable to ssh to another machine for an interactive ssh
[21:43] <Nattgew> where are entries for the system menu stored? wine put a bunch of stuff in there a long time ago and I want to get rid of it.
[21:43] <DarthArachides> anyonen else experiencing ssh problems?
[21:43] <lildemon> ok thx ill try that
[21:43] <mnaines1> lildemon: I doubt it is the display drivers.  You should at least see something even with no drivers installed
[21:44] <DarthArachides> bash just says "killed" when I try to ssh to other machines.
[21:45] <anne_b> hello, what would be the smallest install disc download for a graphical ubuntu?
[21:46] <buttons840> guntbert, sorry to bother you again, but i can select the lines i need, but then i right click on the terminal and the copy option is greyed out, how do i get it to my clipboard?
[21:46] <sebsebseb> !minimal |  anne_b
[21:46] <hwilde> anne_b, livecd is about 500 something mb
[21:46] <mnaines1> anne_b: I would not use a disk.  If you want to use the GUI, I would get a USB flash drive at least 8GB in size
[21:47] <slipshot> what do i need to put in my autostart.sh for my update manager?
[21:47] <joeyeye> I need help - when I use nslookup for *any* hostname that does not exist, I always get a "valid" response which confuses my system
[21:47] <slipshot> i have lxde built from a ubuntu mini .iso
[21:49] <slipshot> would i put update-manager or update-notifier?
[21:51] <speel> any one experiencing flash plugin glitches with the newest beta?
[21:51] <pandapavillion> What's the deal with Wubi? So you just put the alternate iso with the wubi.exe bada bing bada boom? Didn't work on a stubborn ol' inspiron 1100, anyone know how to fix this?
[21:51] <sebsebseb> speel: #ubuntu+1 for the beta
[21:51] <speel> thank you
[21:51] <buttons840> anyone know how i can copy and paste hundreds of lines on a remote session (using terminal and ssh) to a local file?
[21:52] <pandapavillion> pm me pls
[21:53] <vox>  BRISBANE university students are the first in the country to be assessed on the social networking site Twitter.
[21:54] <vox> gah
[21:54] <hedkandi> hello
[21:54] <hedkandi> guys I have two wifi nics
[21:54] <hedkandi> wlan0 and wlan1
[21:54] <hedkandi> how does it decide which to use?
[21:55] <LjL> whowas yerbestfriend
[21:56] <mikinanuq> buttons840: is it something you can reproduce and pipe to a file using >
[21:56] <mikinanuq> buttons840: then copy the file over
[21:56] <anne_b> thanks #ubuntu
[21:56] <mnaines1> Is there someplace I can get a list of all the terminal commands for Ubuntu and what they do?
[21:56] <LjL> !cli
[21:57] <mnaines1> LjL, I know what the terminal is.  I am asking where I can find a complete list of commands and their functions
[21:57] <hagabaka> how can I register my host name on the DNS running on my router?
[21:58] <Nattgew> is it possible in bash to pipe output to two things at the same time?
[21:58] <pandapavillion> Inspiron? 1100? Wubi?
[21:58] <LjL> mnaines1: "complete", nowhere.
[21:58] <LjL> mnaines1: have yo noticed that factoid also comes with a link to a guide, aside from saying what it is?
[22:00] <Nattgew> how can I use bash to search a bunch of files for text?
[22:00] <werfact> who knows how to fix audio in xp running in virtualbox
[22:00] <shawn_> InitHello are you here?
[22:00] <shawn_> werfact Is it enabled in your Vbox settings?
[22:01] <L1nUX1z3R> how do i check my public IP address by command?
[22:01] <vox> Nattgew: with grep
[22:01] <Nattgew> vox: I can cat them all and grep for it, but then it just spits out a bunch of lines, I don't know where they came from...
[22:02] <mnaines1> L1nUX1z3R: Try ifconfig
[22:02] <vox> Nattgew: you can use grep itself
[22:02] <L1nUX1z3R> that just gives me the dhcp IP...
[22:03] <vox> Nattgew: as in   grep "string to search" /path/to/and/file/name
[22:03] <JoeSomebody> hi, if i make a boot partition, how big should it be ?
[22:03] <pppoe_dude> hello. a quick question, has anyone ever tried updating their laptop's BIOS from ubuntu?
[22:03] <Nattgew> vox: thanks... I never thought of that for some reason
[22:03] <pppoe_dude> or is it a really bad idea to try and use Wine for that?
[22:05] <vox> Nattgew: grep is pretty powerful once you learn how to drive it
[22:05] <Nattgew> vox: indeed it is... just like most of linux
[22:05] <mikinanuq> L1nUX1z3R: try links http://whatismyip.org
[22:05] <mnaines1> Nattgew: I found a list of Bash commands...Hopefully I can learn those well enough to use Linux on CLI
[22:05] <foofish> L1nUX1z3R: curl -s -AMozilla www.ip-adress.com|grep /h
[22:06] <yitz_> Does X not read the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file when it starts? I've restored a backup of that file from a known working state and restarted X (ctrl-alt-bkspace) but X11 isn't changing its configuration
[22:06] <FluxD> How do I kill ghost ssh sessions ?
[22:06] <joeyeye_> can anyone help me with name resolution issues ?
[22:06] <Nattgew> mnaines1: excellent, have fun with that. there's always more to learn.
[22:06] <foofish> FluxD: you could kill the shells
[22:06] <FluxD> foofish, how?
[22:06] <mnaines1> Nattgew: Linux is just like life itself...You never stop learning how to drive it
[22:07] <L1nUX1z3R> foofish, can i use lynx instead of curl?
[22:07] <VCoolio> L1nUX1z3R: wget http://www.whatismyip.com/automation/n09230945.asp -O - 2> /dev/null; echo | tail
[22:07] <foofish> L1nUX1z3R: yes. but lots of these websites try to detect the user agent. so you should change that
[22:07] <JoeSomebody> anyone got a boot partition? how big?
[22:07] <Bacon> Is there any way that I can do a remote desktop to my linux box useing my blackberry cell phone
[22:08] <L1nUX1z3R> VCoolio, thanks.it worked
[22:08] <L1nUX1z3R> foofish, how do i change it?
[22:08] <pradeep> hi everyone
[22:08] <mikinanuq> joeyeye_: what is the problem?
[22:08] <werfact> shawn_, i have it enabled, but there is the yellow ! mark on the audio hardware, i guess wrong driver?
[22:09] <foofish> L1nUX1z3R: oh, it's not needed for that website
[22:09] <foofish> L1nUX1z3R: lynx -dump www.ip-adress.com 2>/dev/null |grep IP\ address\ is:
[22:09] <shawn_> werfact Yeah probably... Doe syour audio work on ubuntu
[22:09] <FluxD> foofish, how?
[22:09] <pandapavillion> thanks guys !!!!
[22:09] <Ddorda> how can i install gnome 3 on karmic?
[22:09] <mikinanuq> JoeSomebody: I think 50Mb should be a safe size
[22:09] <foofish> FluxD: pstree -n, find the pids, kill $PIDNUMBER
[22:09] <joeyeye_> mikinanuq: it seems that I get different answers with nslookup for a hostname in different cases ("soso" vs. "SOSO")
[22:09] <werfact> shawn_, yeah works fine in ubuntu
[22:09] <foofish> FluxD: something along those lines, anyway
[22:09] <L1nUX1z3R> foofish, lynx doesnt work...but thanks
[22:10] <foofish> L1nUX1z3R: this works for me: lynx -dump www.ip-adress.com |grep IP\ address\ is:
[22:10] <mikinanuq> joeyeye_: depends on which dns server you get
[22:10] <shawn_> werfact... Hmm well you might have tweak your sound settings on Windows maybe.. It worked out of the box for me
[22:10] <joeyeye_> mikinanuq: I have a windows host "SOSO" which resolves properly to 192.168.0.2, but if I use "soso" it resolves to an IP outside my network.
[22:11] <joeyeye_> mikinanuq: ok - I'm using the default I get with my ISP, which I believe are the OpenDNS servers
[22:11] <L1nUX1z3R> foofish, yeah...that worked
[22:11] <werfact> shawn_, ok thanks
[22:11] <joeyeye_> mikinanuq: and my ubuntu desktop is using the router as the dns point
[22:11] <Moofius> heh, just got two empty files named "startkeylogger" and "irc.something.org#something" sent to me, I wonder why :p
[22:11] <mikinanuq> joeyeye_: hold a sec
[22:11] <Moofius> (via irc, on freenode)
[22:13] <martin-> will someone please kill the annoying dcc bots?
[22:14] <KB1JWQ> martin-: We're on it, thanks. :-)
[22:14] <Tbag1> hi guys. i have a quick wlan question. i finally managed to get my usb wireless adapter working, i even get an ip address alocated by my dhcp server. but as soon as i unplug the ethernet, i can't get onto the box via the wlan ip address.
[22:14] <Tbag1> any suggestions?
[22:14] <martin-> KB1JWQ: oh, great :)
[22:15] <pradeep> hi evryone am back
[22:15] <Tbag1> hi
[22:15] <pradeep> had to do one or two
[22:15] <Ddorda> how can i install gnome 3 on karmic?
[22:16] <Tbag1> anyone on the wlan issue?
[22:16] <vox> Ddorda: join #ubuntu+1 for karmic support
[22:16] <pradeep> Tbag1 just fix one system with an atheros card
[22:17] <Ddorda> vox: it's can be on jaunty.. doesn't really metter
[22:17] <Ddorda> matter*
[22:17] <Tbag1> pradeep: as in replace the usb wireless adapter?
[22:18] <deggial> join #ubuntu-mx
[22:19] <pilif12p> What does this mean ? "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/postfix_2.5.5-1.1_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[22:20] <mikinanuq> joeyeye_: anyway, k I'm back.. anything in your hosts file?
[22:21] <Bacon> Is there any way I can access my linux box from my black berry
[22:21] <MenZa> Bacon: There are ssh clients available for Blackberry out there.
[22:22] <Bacon> Are those like remote desktop?
[22:22] <pilif12p> ssh is shell...
[22:23] <len_> if i do $1 << $2 on a shell script, the << is bitwise or string?
[22:23] <chippy> hi, how can i set the menu key to open context menus? keyboard>layouts>keyboard options> set standard behavior to menu key does not work.
[22:23] <MenZa> Bacon: ssh is shell access.
[22:23] <mikinanuq> Bacon: something like this http://www.rdmplus.com/index.html
[22:23] <mikinanuq> ?
[22:24] <canthus13> SECURE shell, at that.
[22:24] <rayne_> I recently switched my keyboard to Dvorak and it is currently the only layout in the settings, but on the login screen it is still using a Qwerty layout
[22:24] <Bacon> Sorry verry new to linux all I want to do is stop and start torrents from the feild
[22:24] <len_> anyone know?
[22:25] <mikinanuq> Bacon: I prefer qbitorrent, I think it has a web interface
[22:26] <rayne_> Anyone?
[22:26] <urthmover> yay  top
[22:26] <mikinanuq> rayne_: I use dvorak but why would you want to switch the login window, what if someone else needs to log in?
[22:27] <mikinanuq> rayne_: in any case I think it's gdm you need to mess around with
[22:28] <ae86-drifter> hey
[22:29] <joeyeye_> mikinanuq: sorry ... no nothing in hosts, except usual localhost stuff
[22:30] <rayne_> mikinanuq, I'm not trying to make it different. The login screen is still using Qwerty, and I am the only one that uses this laptop. I just want the layout to be the same everywhere
[22:30] <helpdesk> hello, please, i am trying to install gnome-lokki for my firewall on ubuntu but i hav an eerror. anybody with similar problems before?
[22:31] <mayki> install-keymap maybe?
[22:32] <ae86-drifter> helpdesk: what is the error??
[22:32] <joeyeye_> mikinanuq: sorry ... no nothing in hosts, except usual localhost stuff
[22:32] <mikinanuq> joeyeye_: I'm not aware of DNS being case sensitive...  try dig instead of nslookup, see if the same results
[22:32] <helpdesk> @ae86-drifter: failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubunu/pool/universe/g/gnome..
[22:33] <mayki> rayne_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31918  maybe this'll help
[22:33] <helpdesk> @ae86-drifter: ever come across an error like that before
[22:33] <joeyeye_> mikinanuq: still get what I think is a bogus response using dig
[22:33] <craigdrabik> Are there any software raid gurus about?  I have a question :)
[22:34] <jpds> craigdrabik: Just ask it then.
[22:34] <losha> helpdesk: are you sure about the spelling. 'ubunu' looks suspicious...
[22:34] <ae86-drifter> yes
[22:34] <KurtB> Anyone know if Karmic is planning to move to python 2.6.4 when it's finalized?
[22:34] <craigdrabik> Well I have a software raid 1 array on a 2-port SATA PCI card
[22:34] <helpdesk> sorry losha, itz ubuntu
[22:34] <ae86-drifter> exactly
[22:34] <craigdrabik> and I am replacing the card with a 4-port card
[22:34] <ae86-drifter> the link is dead
[22:34] <craigdrabik> what do I have to do to ensure I don't kill my array
[22:34] <vox> craigdrabik: nothing
[22:35] <craigdrabik> just power off, swap the card, power on?
[22:35] <helpdesk> ae86-driter_how did u solve it? how do i get the problem fixed?
[22:35] <vox> craigdrabik: mdadm doesnt care about what controller, it looks for the discs
[22:35] <ae86-drifter> helpdesk: try it again but spell it correctly, the link is DEAD
[22:35] <craigdrabik> great
[22:35] <vox> craigdrabik: yeah, just swap the cards out
[22:35] <mikinanuq> joeyeye_: hmm..
[22:35] <helpdesk> but how do i get the link fixed?
[22:36] <elops> do you suppose 4gb is enough for a basic media install of ubuntu?
[22:36] <vvpalin> do i have to put "export PATH=blah" in my /etc/profile or can i just do "PATH=" ?
[22:36] <helpdesk> ae86-drifter_ is there anyway, i could get the link fixed cuz i get this problem most times
[22:36] <losha> helpdesk: lots of gnome stuff in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/ though. What were you looking for?
[22:36] <ae86-drifter> helpdesk: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubunu/pool/universe/g/gnome HAVE A CLOSE LOOK
[22:36] <elops> do you suppose 4gb is enough for a basic media install of ubuntu?
[22:37] <ae86-drifter> helpdesk: you forgot the T in ubunu
[22:37] <RS-232> HI all
[22:37] <elops> or am I going to get screwed trying to run updates?
[22:37] <BaGy> elops, 6GB :)
[22:37] <RS-232> I have just installed Amarok 2.0.2 in Ubuntu 9.04 64 bits, it does not play any sound, when I try to configure it, I find that there are no options for that under Settings..Any clue? thanks
[22:37] <mayki> i did:  ls -R My\ Videos > $HOME/Desktop/VideoList.txt, and now have a file with all my videos listed in there, but it lists directories and spaces them, is there a command so i can remove all lines with / and empty lines?
[22:37] <helpdesk> ae86-drifter_ actually i ran the command apt-get install gnome-lokki
[22:37] <helpdesk> and then, i got the error link
[22:37] <sebsebseb> elops: at least 8GB
[22:38] <elops> or am I going to get screwed trying to run updates?
[22:38] <elops> my kiosk install is only 2.6gb
[22:38] <ae86-drifter> dont use apt get, just google it, download it and run the deb package
[22:38] <elops> but I don't have xbmc or anything on there
[22:38] <losha> elops: Hmm. I currently have an 8.04 install using about 4.1G, but it doesn't allow for much in the way of data files or big programs...
[22:38] <sebsebseb> elops: depends on what your going to install
[22:38] <elops> and that's on an 80gb drive
[22:38] <ae86-drifter> obviously the repository has a dead link
[22:38] <elops> these boxes have a CF slot on the motherboard, and I have a 4gb CF card I could try it with
[22:38] <helpdesk> ae86-drifter: do you understand how the error link came about now? i didnt type it myself, it was the result i got after i typed in the cmd apt-get intall gnome-lokki
[22:38] <sebsebseb> elops: and also if your going to have resoanblly big data files or not in home
[22:38] <helpdesk> ae86-drfier: exactly, how do i fix it?
[22:38] <mikinanuq> joeyeye_: I guess the only other reason could be if you setup your domain name to something that is on the internet then it might pick up a host at SOSO.domain.com  and  soso.local  something like that ... do you remember setting up a domain that can be resolved on the internet?
[22:39] <ae86-drifter> helpdesk: i told you how to
[22:39] <sebsebseb> elops: ,but a clean install of Ubuntu Desktop is about 1GB
[22:39] <ae86-drifter> helpdesk: dont use apt get to install, just google it, download it and run the deb package
[22:39] <vieq> hello, I got a laptop "acer aspire" with 4GB of ram, but my system see's only 3Gb any clues/ideas?
[22:40] <sebsebseb> !info g nome-lokki
[22:40] <sebsebseb> !info gnome-lokki
[22:40] <helpdesk> ae86-drifter: could i use yum? or someother tools?
[22:40] <joeyeye_> mikinanuq: no, but I think I'd like to try out other DNS servers on the internet. Perhaps my ISP's DNS servers are deliberately "trying to help me" by pointing me to one of their servers.
[22:40] <Jordan_U> vieq: You need to use either the 64 bit version of Ubuntu or the server kernel
[22:40] <RS-232> Anybody using Amarok in 9.04?
[22:40] <ae86-drifter> helpdesk: NO
[22:40] <sebsebseb> helpdesk: get stuff from the repo if it's in there
[22:40] <vieq> Jordan_U: tried too but for some odd reason it refused to install
[22:41] <helpdesk> sebsebseb: how do i get the stuffs from the repo?
[22:41] <ae86-drifter> sebsebseb: his reposityory has a dead link
[22:41] <Jordan_U> vieq: Is it a 64 bit CPU?
[22:41] <sebsebseb> helpdesk: what are you trying to install anyway?
[22:41] <vieq> the 32-bit got installed like a sharm
[22:41] <sebsebseb> helpdesk: gnome-lokki ??? what's that
[22:41] <helpdesk> ae86-drifter: so, i have to google gnome-lokki ?
[22:41] <vieq> Jordan_U: nope an i686 dual-core
[22:41] <mikinanuq> joeyeye_: yeah the way I did it was to setup OpenDNS on my router manually, if you have OpenDNS locally on your computer and the ISP DNS servers on your Router they may be looking at different things
[22:41] <sebsebseb> helpdesk: you can also change the mirror for  your repos,  system > adminisratation > software sources
[22:41] <vieq> let me grap the link of the model I have
[22:41] <ae86-drifter> helpdesk: yes download it and run the deb package
[22:41] <helpdesk> sebsebseb: itz a way fo getting a firefox on ubuntu
[22:42] <sebsebseb> helpdesk: Firefox comes by default on Ubuntu
[22:42] <helpdesk> ae86-drifter: any idea on where best to get this
[22:42] <steven_> Where can I find educational programs for Ubuntu?  For instance, I would like to find flash cards for elementary math for my kid.  Do programs like this exist anywhere?
[22:42] <Hahahan> RS-232: Yes but I compiled a former version of Amarok, the one shipped with 9.04 was troublesome.
[22:42] <helpdesk> sebsebseb: well, it all started when i tried to filter out ssh from my firewall.
[22:42] <sebsebseb> steven_:  yes there are quite a lot of good educational softwares for Linux
[22:42] <ae86-drifter> helpdesk: look in your applications menu
[22:42] <helpdesk> sebsebseb: and sorry i mean firewall
[22:43] <MenZa> steven_: Well, Edubuntu is bundled with a load of these applications - look at Add/Remove Software... from Applications.
[22:43] <sebsebseb> steven_: Gcompris  Educational Suite,   Child's Play, Tuxmath,  Tuxpaint,  etc
[22:43] <elops> can I just install a clean install, and then copy another install over the top of it?
[22:43] <sdlwof> hey folks, ubuntu supports system wide encrytion using alt-install method when doing a fresh install, any way to covert a already installed system to be fully encrypted?
[22:43] <steven_> Thanks guys.  I'll try some of those out
[22:43] <helpdesk> ae86-drifter: ok i will try it out and let u know how it went. will u be online tomorrow?
[22:43] <ae86-drifter> sure
[22:43] <sebsebseb> steven_: or  look at the educational stuff in Synaptic
[22:43] <joeyeye_> mikinanuq: hmmm... I am already using the OpenDNS servers it would appear
[22:44] <helpdesk> ae86-drifter: ok then, thanks. i let u know if i find u online tomorrow. thanks alot also sebsebseb.
[22:44] <elops>  can I just install a clean install, and then copy another install over the top of it?
[22:44] <sebsebseb> steven_: plus  this gives you an idea about what is available  http://www.edubuntu.org
[22:44] <vieq> Jordan_U: http://tinyurl.com/yg47ety
[22:44] <Jordan_U> vieq: Did it come with 4 GIG of RAM? It would be interesting if it did considering AFAIK windows can't access 4 gig of ram with it's 32 bit version, though linux can :)
[22:44] <vox> elops: err.. why?
[22:44] <ae86-drifter> elops: it wouldnt be a clean install if you install over the top of something
[22:44] <vox> Jordan_U: windows can aswell
[22:44] <vieq> Jordan_U: it came with Vista 64-bit pre installed
[22:45] <Jordan_U> vieq: I thought you said it was a 32 bit processor?
[22:45] <mnaines1> vieq: If it came with Vista 64 installed, then its a 64-bit computer
[22:45] <vieq> which I got me tottaly confused cause both Fedora or Ubuntu 64 refused to install
[22:45] <mikinanuq> joeyeye_: arg, you may need to put a sniffer or sometihng to analyze the packets and figure it out. It's strange, the way around it is to put soso and SOSO in your hosts file and bypass the DNS but it would be nice to know why it's doing it.
[22:45] <elops>  can I just install a clean install, and then copy another install over the top of it?
[22:45] <steven_> Thanks alot guys.  Really appreciate this.
[22:45] <mnaines1> Jordan_U: What's the command to determine the operating system version?
[22:46] <steven_> I was terrified that I was going to have to install Windows
[22:46] <Jordan_U> mnaines1: lsb_release -a
[22:46] <mnaines1> vieq: Pastebin the output of uname -a
[22:46] <grturner> vieq, what type of processor is it?
[22:46] <mikinanuq> steven_: there's a bunch of online stuff too, flash based
[22:46] <scar3crow> question: whats the command to see how much memory my machine reckognizes
[22:46] <sebsebseb> steven_: np and loads of good  educational stuff as I already said
[22:46] <vieq> grturner:     *  Intel® Pentium® dual-core mobile processor with up to 1 MB L2 Cache, supporting Intel® 64 architecture
[22:46] <jmaslibre> O.o
[22:47] <mnaines1> vieq: You can run a 64-bit OS on that
[22:47] <elops>  can I just install a clean install, and then copy another install over the top of it?
[22:47] <grturner> should run 64bit
[22:47] <vieq> mnaines1: can not do that right now I am on a winblows machine, I was near a net cafe so I droped by to ask
[22:47] <Jordan_U> vieq: What problem did you have installing 64 bit Ubuntu?
[22:47] <sebsebseb> steven_: for running Windows apps by the way,  Wine, commercial verisons of it that are sold, or  a Windows virtual machine
[22:47] <mikinanuq> elops: that would probably cause a lot of problems
[22:47] <vieq> Jordan_U: well I never got pass the inital installing fhase
[22:47] <vieq> it just stops
[22:47] <elops> Why?
[22:47] <mnaines1> grturner: I usually recommend 64-bit operating systems if it is possible to run them
[22:48] <vieq> I thought my cd's were corrupted!
[22:48] <grturner> i like 64bit os'es
[22:48] <vieq> mnaines1: same here at least I get the best performance
[22:48] <Jordan_U> vieq: Stops where? Does the LiveCD boot to a desktop?
[22:48] <vieq> Jordan_U: nope it do not
[22:48] <vieq> after the welcome screen nothing happens
[22:48] <Jordan_U> vieq: Did it give any error message?
[22:48] <vieq> not at all
[22:49] <mikinanuq> elops: I knew the 'why' was coming... there is a thing called dependencies, programs depend on other programs to all be synched and to work properly. I'm not saying that it can't be done but you have to know your stuff because when stuff starts breaking you'll have some troubleshooting to do.
[22:49] <vieq> Jordan_U: perhaps there is something not right with my burned cd's, I do not know
[22:49] <kora-chan> hey, i use aspell for correcting my latex files. is there any other tool for correcting spelling mistakes, since the command line version of aspel doesnt seem to recognize the äöü character when i do a replace. apart from the the german dictionary is really small. any suggestions?
[22:50] <vieq> I checked every thing before I started to ask
[22:50] <Jordan_U> vieq: Did you try the self test of the CD at boot?
[22:50] <mikinanuq> elops: if it's just for fun/testing I'd say go for it. what's the worst that can happen right?
[22:50] <vieq> Jordan_U: nope, I did not
[22:50] <vieq> I just checked the md5/sha hash
[22:50] <sebsebseb> kora-chan: Abiword has a spelling and grammer checker  in more recant versions,  and it can probably do Germen as well
[22:50] <Jordan_U> vieq: Of the CD or just the iso file?
[22:51] <Fome> Hi! Anyone with Ubuntu on an Aspire One that can tell me if there's anyway to make the wifi recpetion any better?
[22:51] <vieq> Jordan_U: the Isos
[22:51] <sebsebseb> kora-chan: Open Office is only a spell check,  and last time I tried it, not as good as Abiword for English,  or something like that
[22:51] <kora-chan> sebsebseb: i cant use abiword for latex source
[22:51] <sebsebseb> kora-chan: oh yeah latex
[22:51] <Jordan_U> kora-chan: Might ask in #ubuntu-de
[22:51] <vieq> I will give it more testing tonight and see what happens
[22:51] <sebsebseb> kora-chan:   I am not sure what latex is,  I think I have heard of it before
[22:51] <Jordan_U> vieq: Check the CD
[22:51] <vieq> Jordan_U: well do
[22:52] <vieq> thanks mates
[22:52] <kora-chan> Jordan_U: do you know alternatives for english, since i write most of my papers in english?
[22:52] <mikinanuq> Fome: as a general rule, you may want to change the channel that your router funcions on. Most routers come default on chan 6, while 11 and 3 are perfectly available and usually unused. change the channel
[22:52] <vieq> Jordan_U: do I need to pay attention to anything else?
[22:52] <kora-chan> sebsebseb: latex is a typesetting system which is mostly used for mathematical papers and stuff since formula rendering is pretty good
[22:53] <sebsebseb> kora-chan: not entirely sure what that means, but ok
[22:53] <Fome> mikinanuq: well, the problem isn't at home but at other places
[22:53] <jyoshu> latex is not a "what you see is what you get" (wysiwyg).
[22:53] <vieq> aright, be back when I have something usefule
[22:53] <Jordan_U> vieq: Make sure you are using the latest version of Ubuntu ( 9.04 ) or the latest long term support release ( 8.04 )
[22:53] <vieq> aright then
[22:54] <vieq> thanks man
[22:54] <jyoshu> it's like html, only for words and rendering.  i'm terrible with it :D
[22:54] <sebsebseb> jyoshu: oh
[22:54] <mikinanuq> Fome: do you have dualboot on it? does it perform poorly in windows and ubuntu? I'm thinking that this is a hardware problem and not a software one.
[22:54] <kora-chan> does someone know if the dictionaries you can download from the aspell page are the same that are shipped with ubuntu?
[22:55] <vvpalin> is there a way to make a link inside a text file so when i cat it, it can be redirected ??
[22:55] <Fome> mikinanuq: I don't dualboot so I can't check. It seems that other people have the same problem in ubuntu though. And I've also tried Fedore 11 wich makes the wifi function slightly better
[22:55] <sdlwof> hey folks, ubuntu supports system wide encrytion using alt-install method when doing a fresh install, any way to covert a already installed system to be fully encrypted?
[22:56] <KurtB> Python-2.4.6rc1 = successful bfg build.
[22:56] <a_> can someone please tell me how to install 3d acceleration?
[22:56] <Jordan_U> vvpalin: No, but what are you trying to accomplish?
[22:56] <ala-di-no> hola buenas
[22:56] <Jordan_U> a_: Have you tried System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[22:56] <iGama> a_, what is your graphic card ?
[22:57] <vvpalin> Jordan_U, exactly what i said, id like to be able to cat a file, have a link inside it and then cat the file its linked to
[22:57] <Jordan_U> !es | ala-di-no
[22:57] <mikinanuq> Fome: it's time to go sorry I can't continue to help but you may want to look in to making your device default or only use 802.11g and not b ...
[22:57] <Guest31860> i have virus problem in Ubuntu check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290586
[22:57] <mikinanuq> Fome: maybe it's defaulting to b.
[22:58] <Fome> mikinanuq: I don't know what you mean by that... can you give me some keywords to google? :)
[22:58] <Jordan_U> vvpalin: But why do you want to do that, there may be another way to do what you want, like using "cat file1 file2 | program" or fifos
[22:58] <tvon> join #django
[22:58] <sandeep37> virus problem can anyone help me ???????  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290586
[22:58] <tvon> er
[22:58] <badelvis> when i try to add a module with modprobe, it says: FATAL: Error inserting smsc47m1 (/lib/modules/2.6.31-11-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/smsc47m1.ko): Device or resource busy
[22:58] <a_> my graphics card is intel 950gma
[22:59] <sebsebseb> !intel |  a_
[22:59] <foxtrotniner> ubuntu crashed while I was upgrading the packages on jaunty and now i get seg faults like this http://pastebin.com/m18f3e51e any idea how i can fix this?
[22:59] <mikinanuq> Fome: wireless uses 802.11b/g, most devices are setup to use whatever they can find, b or g. g is better. look for .. ubuntu defualt wireless 802.11g  or something like that
[22:59] <iGama> http://forum.wareseeker.com/to-all-the-people-using-ubuntu-9-04-and-an-intel-950-gma-t37343.html
[22:59] <vvpalin> Jordan_U, its for somewhat of a hidden backdoor im working on, i know you can easily do what you just mentioned, i was just wondering if there was a way
[22:59] <Fome> mikinanuq: ok, thank you very much
[22:59] <mikinanuq> gotta go c ya
[23:00] <sebsebseb> a_: In other words lots of Intel cards are bad in 9.04, and I have a feeling  that I already did !intel at you last time I saw you in here
[23:00] <sandeep37> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290586
[23:00] <a_> whats !intel mean?
[23:00] <sandeep37> can anyone help me ????
[23:00] <NewfierRich> hey all, I want to burn an avi to a dvd for a dvd player. anyone have any suggestions on what software I should use?
[23:00] <sebsebseb> a_: 9.10 released on October 29th  will have Intel issues fixed by the sounds of it, and !intel as in the bot trigger
[23:00] <Jordan_U> vvpalin: What specifically are you trying to do? It's likely you can do it with a fifo and a script
[23:00] <prince_jammys> NewfierRich: devede is one.
[23:00] <sandeep37> NewfierRich, k3b
[23:01] <NewfierRich> thanks prince
[23:01] <a_> oh
[23:01] <NewfierRich> and sanddeep37
[23:01] <a_> is there a way around the regression?
[23:01] <sandeep37> can anyone help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290586
[23:01] <vvpalin> Jordan_U, im trying to do specifically what i said nothing more, cat a file and have it redirect to another file .. i didnt think it was possible but i wasnt to sure
[23:02] <sebsebseb> a_: Quite a lot of people downgraded to  8.10 or 8.04, because of the Intel graphics card issues in 9.04
[23:02] <vvpalin> Jordan_U, thank you tho :)
[23:02] <Jordan_U> sandeep37: First of all never log into the GUI as root, *ever*. Second, have you tried the "Failsafe Gnome" option from the login screen ( in the sessions menu at the bottom left )?
[23:02] <break_> how do i list the files installed by a package via the command line?
[23:02] <badelvis> what does this mean: FATAL: Error inserting smsc47m1 (/lib/modules/2.6.31-11-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/smsc47m1.ko): Device or resource busy ???
[23:03] <foxtrotniner> ubuntu crashed while I was upgrading the packages on jaunty and now i get seg faults like this http://pastebin.com/m18f3e51e any idea how i can fix this?
[23:03] <pradeep> got issue on a laptop no sound
[23:03] <pradeep> jaunty
[23:03] <pradeep> any clue
[23:03] <prince_jammys> badelvis: dpkg -L pkgname
[23:03] <a_> so I'll have to reinstall ubuntu at a downgraded version?
[23:03] <sebsebseb> pradeep: not as such, but sound issues are pretty common on lap tops with Ubuntu
[23:03] <prince_jammys> break: dpkg -L pkgname
[23:03] <sebsebseb> !sound |  pradeep
[23:03] <prince_jammys> badelvis: sorry, wrong nick.
[23:04] <nuxil> hello all. can any one tell what i must use to connect from my windows box  to my linux using remote desktop ?
[23:04] <sandeep37> Jordan_U, i have no potion
[23:04] <break_> prince_jammys: thank you, works perfectly
[23:04] <sebsebseb> a_: yes or just  wait untill 9.10 and do a nice clean install  putting that on
[23:04] <sebsebseb> a_: plus you get  Ext4 that way :)
[23:04] <iGama> nuxil, VNC
[23:04] <badelvis> prince_jammys:  np
[23:04] <iGama> nuxil, You can use UltraVNC for that
[23:04] <Jordan_U> vvpalin: You can do something like "mkfifo file; while true; do cat file1 file2 > file" Or make a more elaborate script that actually parses file one for "links" to other files
[23:04] <sandeep37> Jordan_U, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290586
[23:04] <prince_jammys> break_: welcome
[23:04] <nuxil> iGama thanks. i'll look into that :)
[23:05] <a_> sebsebseb: what is ext4?
[23:05] <sebsebseb> a_: a newer file system, which is going to replace Ext3 as the default
[23:05] <iGama> nuxil, then you have to allow it in System - Preferences - Remote Desktop
[23:05] <His> greetings all
[23:05] <huwaw69> how can i make counter strike 1.3 have a console in linux?
[23:05] <Jordan_U> sandeep37: You don't see a session menu in the login screen?
[23:05] <sebsebseb> a_: faster, boot up, shut down, and disk checking after 23 or so boots,  plus  9.10 has something else that makes boot up faster as well
[23:06] <sebsebseb> a_: if you want to  downgrade  whilst waiting for 9.10, I recommended 8.10
[23:06] <kora-chan> just for those who are interested, if you are not satisfied with the standard dictionaries of aspell, you can download a language word list of your choice and let aspell build a dictionary from it
[23:06] <sebsebseb> a_: run that for a bit it you want, and then  clean install again when 9.10 comes out
[23:07] <Jordan_U> a_: You can downgrade just the intel driver
[23:07] <Jordan_U> !intel | a_
[23:07] <rgs__> sebsebseb: I thought btrfs would dominate the world and ext4 would be discontinued
[23:07] <sebsebseb> rgs__: BTFS is not ready yet, but Ext4 is
[23:07] <Jordan_U> rgs__: Eventually, that's a ways away though
[23:07] <a_> jordan_U: what do you mean jujst the intel driver?
[23:08] <sebsebseb> Jordan_U: hmm   I think I haven't even been on those Intel links :D   well anyway seems you know what your on about so :)
[23:09] <system404> sebsebseb: i have intel graphics card and am running 9.04 whats this issue you speak off
[23:09] <Jordan_U> a_: You can use the driver that's in 8.10 ( which does not have the performance problems ) in 9.04
[23:09] <sebsebseb> system404: some people get issues with Intel graphic cards on 9.04
[23:09] <sebsebseb> system404: and they don't work properly
[23:09] <Jordan_U> a_: Then you don't have to downgrade to 8.10 completely, but you still get good 3D performance
[23:09] <system404> oh ok mines bn ok i think
[23:09] <a_> Jordan_U: where can I get the driver?
[23:10] <tina_> i have encountered a virus that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290586
[23:10] <system404> i had to fiddle with one of my conf files but then it was all good
[23:10] <Guest54431> anyone know how to get ubuntu's default movie player to accept feed from a laptopas built in webcam?
[23:10] <tina_> i have encountered a virus in ubuntu! can anyone help me please?
[23:11] <system404> sebsebseb: it was my xorg.conf file i had to fiddle with that because of my intel card but once i made the proper edits all was good
[23:11] <vox> tina_: explain
[23:12] <Jordan_U> a_: Let me find a link with good instructions
[23:12] <losha> tina_: that's quite unlikely. Can you say why you think you've found a virus...?
[23:12] <a_> Jordan_U: thankyou so much!
[23:12] <Guest54431> it is in the forum link
[23:12] <Guest54431> tina put down
[23:12] <Guest54431> anyone know how to get ubuntu's default movie player to accept feed from a laptopas built in webcam?
[23:12] <a_> thankyou too sebsebseb
[23:13] <system404> guys why is it considered unlikely to find a virus on linux i mean more and more people are using it everyday so it makes sence that people will start making viruses am i ryt or am i wrong
[23:13] <D7> I have ubuntu running virtualbox, with winxp guest, I installed the additions and now the only screen resolution available is 640x480 -- any advise to get a fullscreen out of this?
[23:13] <sebsebseb> !virus |  system404
[23:14] <tina_> losha, there is a script running behind that's process id is changing constantly thats opening my file manager every second. i have no clue how to kill this process! can u help ?
[23:14] <tina_> vox, there is a script running behind that's process id is changing constantly thats opening my file manager every second. i have no clue how to kill this process! can u help ?
[23:14] <alteregoa> it could have a virus problem too
[23:14] <pepper> killall processname.
[23:14] <alteregoa> social engineering helps
[23:14] <pepper> tina_, u tried to reboot?
[23:14] <vox> tina_: is the process called 'nautilus' ?
[23:14] <sebsebseb> tina_: could be javascript doing something,  good job I didn't go on the link  by the sounds of it :)
[23:15] <alteregoa> no its called seahawk
[23:15] <tina_> pepper. yes i did reboot. no help!
[23:15] <Lunis> I have a physically damaged sector on my hard drive. The hard drive is fine except for this sector. File access operations on other partitions have no problem. Is there any way to mark this sector as damaged and then be able to use the hard drive?
[23:15] <Jordan_U> tina: You don't see a session menu in the login screen?
[23:15] <tina_> vox: no its not nautilus
[23:15] <allans> can anybody help me im pulling my hair out trying to sort some excel things out!!!!!
[23:15] <SeaPhor> tina, one of these tools can help you- http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/top-linux-monitoring-tools.html
[23:15] <sebsebseb> !details |  allans
[23:16] <sebsebseb> tina_: someone else was here earlier  saying the same thing about that link
[23:16] <Jordan_U> Lunis: Yes, though your hardware should do it automatically when a read / write fails, look into "badblocks"
[23:16] <sebsebseb> or pretty much  the same thing
[23:16] <ZloboMiR_82> Hello, tried to find some solution but no look. Was trying several distros before Ubuntu, one of them (no ad) has asked to reinitialize my 1TB NTFS drive. Now I see the drive only with some utilities, can't recover partition. Any hope?
[23:16] <iGama> tina_, that is not a virus. Have you already rebooted ?
[23:16] <system404> sebsebseb: all that explains is that its unlikely that any linux written virus would have an affect on you due to the way its all setup but it dont mean its impossible if someone out there really knew what they was doin im sure they could find a way right
[23:17] <allans> well i have an excel sheet with data for example name address etc i want to merge that data into several ms word templates and make the data go into the specified field on the word docs but im not sure how to do it :(
[23:17] <losha> Lunis: download the manufacturers diagnostic disk and run the diagnostics. With any luck, this will reallocate the damaged sectors. Note that any kind of physical damage on modern drives tends to spread over time. Personally, I would backup any data while you still can and buy a new disk, using the damaged one for scratch storage only...
[23:17] <sebsebseb> system404: sure, but I guess it stll applys that to get something malicious installed, you have to either  install it yourself, or get your computer cracked in to or something
[23:18] <tina_> igama- its not virus but some kind of a script thats opening my file manager a million times! darn!!!
[23:18] <Guest54431> anyone know how to get ubuntu's default movie player to accept feed from a laptopas built in webcam?
[23:18] <Lunis> Jordan_U: what tool can scan a (n EXT4) partition from a linux livecd and find such bad block and mark them?
[23:18] <sebsebseb> tina_: Why did you go on the link?
[23:18] <vox> tina_: it's bad code, and it's most likely doing thing that xorg doesnt like
[23:19] <SeaPhor> tina_, have you rebooted yet? one of these tools can help you- http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/top-linux-monitoring-tools.html
[23:19] <iGama> tina_, what is the link?
[23:19] <losha> ZloboMiR_82: the only distro that can properly file check a damaged NTFS volume is windows...
[23:19] <iGama> tina_, have you rebooted yet?
[23:19] <Lunis> Note that i have no cdrom or spare hard drives or funds for a new drive
[23:19] <Jordan_U> Lunis: Badblocks can, but it's usually used to create the file system
[23:19] <system404> sebsebseb: now consider the type of person who dont really understand computers at all who purchase linux netbooks ok dont know anything about computers something pops up saying do you allow such and such access bla bla bla they gonna think eh whats this erm must be important so erm yeah go for it
[23:19] <tina_> sebsebseb-, igama- i posted the prob on ubuntuforums, thts the link to it!
[23:19] <ZloboMiR_82> Lunis: Usually putting the HDD in the fridge, as cold as possible helps. Also try to keep it cool with ice bags during recovery BYUT DO NOT ALLOW MOISTURE ON THE DRIVE< ESP ITS BOTTOM
[23:19] <system404> just one scenario
[23:19] <system404> linux is vulnerable
[23:19] <iGama> tina_, so you talking about this : http://tech.shantanugoel.com/projects/linux/shantz-xwinwrap
[23:19] <system404> not as much as windows but still vulnerable
[23:19] <iGama> ?
[23:19] <losha> Lunis: that doesn't change the facts. Your drive is no longer reliable and there's no way to make it so...
[23:20] <tina_> iGama, ya
[23:20] <ZloboMiR_82> losha: no luck with windows either
[23:20] <sebsebseb> tina_: I thought it came from the forums link?   someone was giving out link earlier
[23:20] <ZloboMiR_82> Tried Acronis
[23:20] <iGama> tina_, let me see then, ...
[23:20] <iGama> tina_, how did you install it? from the repositorys or by hand ?
[23:20] <tina_> iGama, by hand
[23:20] <Jordan_U> sebsebseb: That was that person posting the same question to Ubuntuforums, the app is an old unmaintained app ( references that it's for "XGL" users )
[23:21] <losha> ZloboMiR_82: for an NTFS volume issue, it's best to ask for help on ##windows...
[23:21] <Lunis> Iosha: well a computer for a few more days is better than none at all. Like i said, there's no way i could gather the money for a new hard drive
[23:21] <tina_> sebsebseb, ok
[23:21] <vox> tina_: type   sudo dpkg -r shantz-xwinwrap_0.3-1_i386.deb
[23:21] <Lunis> Jordan_U:  thanks,
[23:21] <iGama> tina_, did you install the file shantz-xwinwrap_0.3-1_i386.deb ?
[23:22] <ZloboMiR_82> losha: OK, will try, just thought that it happens not-so-rarely while installing the particular distro
[23:22] <losha> Lunis: I sympathise. Just understand that your data is at risk. Anything you can't live without needs to be backed up however you can...
[23:22] <iGama> tina_, just remove the package you installed
[23:22] <tina_> vox, i already remove the package
[23:22] <zahid> how can i change system directory permission for a user
[23:22] <ZloboMiR_82> Lunis: Save your documents at least or any critical data
[23:22] <vox> tina_: sounds like it's broken something in a big fashion then.
[23:22] <iGama> tina_, sudo rm -rf /usr/bin/xwinwrap
[23:22] <Guest54431> anyone know how to get ubuntu's default movie player to accept feed from a laptopas built in webcam?
[23:22] <sebsebseb> system404: there are some bad programs for Linux out there, but  the user  will have to install it themselves usaulley
[23:22] <Lunis> Jordan_U:  losing files on this partition isn' t a problem. Thank god for he foresight of having /home on a seperate partition
[23:23] <sebsebseb> system404: and a lot of them will no longer work on modern distros I think
[23:23] <Guest54431> anyone know how to get totem movie player to accept feed from a laptopas built in webcam?
[23:23] <sebsebseb> tina_: good advice,  only  install stuff from  the Ubuntu repos, or trusted sources
[23:23] <system404> sebsebseb: but there are still vulnerabilitys there though right
[23:23] <Lunis> Iosha: indeed, that is the next step :)
[23:24] <vox> system404: not really, no.
[23:24] <sebsebseb> system404: Windows, Linux distros,  Mac  OS X,  BSD, and so on,  none of them are 100% immune from malware
[23:24] <Jordan_U> Guest54431: Might want to use something like "cheeze" instead
[23:24] <iGama> tina_, do this , and the reboot : sudo rm -rf /usr/bin/xwinwrap
[23:24] <tina_> iGama, Dir is doesnt exits
[23:24] <ZloboMiR_82> Bye and thanks :)
[23:24] <vox> system404: only if you install something bad. it's very difficult to remotely-execute something that will affect a *nix system, generally speaking
[23:25] <sebsebseb> system404: well maybe a realy basic Linux distro that can hardly do anything would be
[23:25] <Jordan_U> tina_: Have you tried the "Failsafe Gnome Session" option from the "sessions" menu of the Ubuntu login screen?
[23:25] <iGama> tina_, do a ps -aux and give me the line of the process that is running
[23:25] <system404> vox: u said it difficult but still not impossable
[23:25] <tina_> igama - its starting a process whenever im tryin to shutdown my sys, it says unknown process running so cant shutdown
[23:25] <vox> system404: nothing is impossible.
[23:25] <system404> dont get wrong i feel much safer wit linux but the point im trying to make is there are still vulnerabiltys there
[23:25] <sebsebseb> tina_: Why were you installing something from outside the Ubuntu repo?
[23:25] <chippy> is the menu key (code 135) disabled in Ubuntu Jaunty?
[23:26] <system404> there is no system on earth thats unhackable
[23:26] <dewman> good evening. Does anyone happen to know of a channel for LIRC?
[23:26] <iGama> tina_, private talk , im afraid of floding the channel now :)
[23:26] <sebsebseb> system404: yeah basicalley
[23:26] <system404> however smart the creators are theres allways sum1 smarter
[23:26] <vox> system404: of course there are. but 99.99999999999999% of the "vulnerabilities" with linux require the /user/ to run the bad code
[23:26] <sebsebseb> yep what vox said basicalley
[23:26] <sebsebseb> tina_: see above :D
[23:27] <SeaPhor> tina_, ctrl+alt+F1 then sudo -i then type reboot now
[23:27] <vox> system404: and that comes back to social engineering, not malware.
[23:27] <system404> as i said not 100 percent though thats all i was trying to say thanks lmao
[23:27] <system404> to fall for social engineering though u do kinda av to be really thick
[23:28] <sebsebseb> system404: depends
[23:28] <system404> and if u that thick u really shouldnt be using linux let alone any type of computer
[23:28] <vox> system404: if you think that, then you're completely missing the point.
[23:29] <sebsebseb> system404: Well computers tend to be rather secure, when they aren't Internet connected
[23:29] <MrSchmo> anyone getting issue with using checkgmail cannot login to gmail account?
[23:29] <system404> not all i get the point but u gta be pretty dumb to fall for social engineering i mean basic common sense
[23:29] <allans> i have an excel sheet in which stores data for example name address etc... i have several word templates also. What im wanting to do is merge the dat from excel into the word documents. However, i want to merge the data into specifed fields within word. I would prefably like to do thisby making a button on excel and it just does it all for me any ideas gguys and girls?
[23:29] <vox> system404: social engineering isnt just someone going "lol try this program, it's a+"
[23:29] <system404> someone asks you for a password it dont matter who they r u simply dont give em it
[23:29] <system404> vox: i know wat social engineering is
[23:30] <vox> allans: this is ubuntu support
[23:30] <sebsebseb> allans: you can run Microsoft Office in Wine
[23:30] <legend2440> MrSchmo: yes mine stopped working a week ago. dont know why. email and password are correct but it wont connect anymore
[23:30] <sebsebseb> allans: or a Windows virtual machine
[23:30] <vox> system404: well evidently you dont, if you think you have to be "dumb" to fall victim to it.
[23:31] <PCTechNerd> ahoy hoy everyone
[23:31] <PCTechNerd> contest rules have been modified.  still have 3 invites to give out if anyone wants them: http://www.googleshepherd.com
[23:31] <system404> vox: basic common sense comes into play when sum1 asks you sumfin they shouldnt be askin you dont tell them if sum1 recos sumfin thats too good to be true it probably is its all basic common sense
[23:31] <sebsebseb> vox: your a new op here?
[23:31] <vox> sebsebseb: not new
[23:32] <sdlwof> do i have to do a fresh install to have system wide encryption? or can i covert my existing paritions to be encrypted and requiring password upon boot up?
[23:32] <sebsebseb> vox: Don't think I have seen you do op stuff in here before
[23:32] <vox> system404: yes, and as i said, that's a small part of social engineering.
[23:32] <phix> hey, any reason why dhcpd would update a DNS with .local at the end of it?
[23:32] <sebsebseb> sdlwof: the alternate CD has encryption
[23:32] <mnaines1> system404: Even smart people fall for social engineering schemes.  I have a lot of enemies because people say it is easy for me to convince even people as smart as I am
[23:32] <sebsebseb> sdlwof: as far as I know you would have to clean install for it
[23:32] <phix> does Ubuntu's dhcp client send .local as the DNS domain or something?
[23:32] <vox> sebsebseb: other ops get the jump on me before i get a chance usually :P
[23:33] <sdlwof> sebsebseb, darn. thanks. any quick ideas to back up my information besides writing it to cds? like conf files and such for gnome, mplayer ,etc?
[23:33] <SeaPhor> just call vox "Quick-Draw"!!
[23:33] <sdlwof> sebsebseb, or how to reinstall all the software packages i already have installed?
[23:33] <Laque> Using Ubuntu 9.04 I set nautilus to never display thumbnails but they still show
[23:33] <vox> SeaPhor: heh
[23:33] <mnaines1> vox: That's understandable...When you're busy helping other people, its hard to quickly respond to situations like that
[23:33] <Laque> this is killing me
[23:33] <Morgansl> Hi does anyone here know how to get a mic to work? i have tried before but i cant get it to work
[23:33] <SeaPhor> that was pretty quick bro
[23:33] <sebsebseb> vox: Your not in the bot trigger either
[23:34] <sebsebseb> sdlwof: Why do you want encryption?
[23:34] <sebsebseb> sdlwof: also most users just need to back up data, and  some stuff from home really
[23:34] <system404> prime example of social engineering
[23:34] <system404> AOL experienced a social engineering attack that compromised their system and revealed confidential information of more than 200 accounts. In that case the caller contacted AOL's tech support and spoke with an employee for an hour. During the conversation the caller mentioned that his car was for sale at a great price. The employee was interested, so the caller sent an e-mail attachment with a picture of the car. Instead of a car photo, the mail executed a
[23:34] <Laque> how to get rid of thumbnails in file browser?
[23:34] <system404> i know how social engineering works but i honestly would not fall for it
[23:34] <sdlwof> sebsebseb, encryption is safer :) and i found package manager has a script gen for installed packages..
[23:35] <a_> I have another question. how do I find out which version of ubuntu I'm using?
[23:35] <Jordan_U> a_: I haven't found a good link and there is currently a small problem with launchpad right now so I'll just tell you what to do
[23:35] <mnaines1> system404: Don't think you won't fall for it.  Even a smart person like myself with a 120 IQ falls victim to reverse psychology
[23:35] <Jordan_U> !version | a_
[23:35] <nowimproved> I updated to 9.10 should I remove my home directory before I reboot?
[23:35] <sebsebseb> sdlwof: I think there is at least one type you would fall for
[23:35] <system404> mnaines1: not if ur lookin out for it
[23:35] <sebsebseb> nowimproved: #ubuntu+1 for 9.10
[23:35] <sebsebseb> sdlwof: whoops wrong one
[23:35] <sdlwof> fall for?
[23:36] <sdlwof> np
[23:36] <system404> mnaines1: the fact that u brag about ur iq makes u sound rather dumb
[23:36] <sebsebseb> system404: see above
[23:36] <mnaines1> system404: I learned in martial arts that even the best training and the highest alertness doesn't save you all the time
[23:36] <a_> Jordan_U: np. thankyou for trying.
[23:36] <vox> guys, this is getting a bit off-topic
[23:36] <sebsebseb> vox: indeed it is
[23:36] <Jordan_U> a_: To install the older intel driver first open System > Administration > Software Sources
[23:36] <system404> yeah i agree way off topic here
[23:36] <system404> moving on
[23:37] <Laque> nvm got it, apparently if you have more than one file browser window open when you apply that change, it wont take effect until the others are closed
[23:37] <Laque> LOL
[23:37] <Laque> that's just sad
[23:37] <legend2440> Morgansl: these instructions worked for me.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/292682/
[23:38] <Morgansl> Legend2440: i will look
[23:38] <vox> Laque: why? you start a program, it reads the config.. it's not going to re-read the config until it starts again
[23:39] <Laque> vox: turns out to be sad because i got no previews to work for nautilus as root but i still can't for a normal nautilus window
[23:39] <sdlwof> sebsebseb, nm, i mis understood package managers generation script. Anyone know of a program that will make a list of my currently installed software, write it to a file of some sort, when i wipe my system clean and reinstall, run the file to put everything back?
[23:39] <Laque> vox: it is set to never show thumbnails, but does it anyway
[23:39] <Jordan_U> a_: Go to the third party software tab and click "Add"
[23:39] <Guest19381> is there any way to start an apprication from a web browser?
[23:39] <yoga``> After upgrade the kernel, my tty console does not display correctly, how do I downgrade back to the old kernel?
[23:40] <captainkirk> hi all, i have yesterday installed updates to my system, and now it has a memory leak, overflows and crashes every couple of hours.  Any ideas?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> yoga``: Just remove the new kernel package with apt-get / synaptic
[23:40] <Laque> vox: any ideas?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> a_: Are you still there?
[23:40] <a_> Jordan_U: yes.
[23:41] <Guest19381> eg. click on a link that says OpenOffice and it starts openoffice
[23:41] <a_> Jordan_U: what do I type for the apt line?
[23:41] <histo> yoga``: remove the ner kernel package.  You can also reboot and hit esc at the grub menu and boot the old kernel.
[23:41] <btice> Hello. I've just installed 10.04 on an old Gateway laptop and I'm getting corrupted fonts and video in gnome. Things will be OK for a few minutes and then get weird on me, where some letters render properly and others don't. Adjusting the rendering in Appearance Prefs/Fonts cleans things up for a few minutes, but then it gets bad again. Any ideas?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> a_: copy and paste this into it: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-retro/ubuntu jaunty main
[23:42] <histo> btice: perhaps ask in #ubuntu+1 for karmic questions
[23:42] <histo> !karmic | btice
[23:42] <histo> btice: my bad what version are you running
[23:42] <histo> btice: 10.04 isn't out
[23:43] <btice> histo, this is not Karmic, but Jaunty. Are you suggesting I need to upgrade?
[23:43] <btice> Sorry, my bad. I meant 9.04.
[23:43] <a_> Jordan_U: ok
[23:43] <captainkirk> ok, maybe another solution, how do i upgrade from 9.04 32bit desktop to 9.04 64bit server?
[23:43] <histo> btice: what type of video card is in the machine?
[23:43] <Jordan_U> a_: Now in a terminal run "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys AF1CDFA9"
[23:44] <histo> captainkirk: you are going to have to install 64bit server. There isn't an upgrade process to do what you want.
[23:44] <btice> histo -- whatever is built into the Gateway laptop. How do I determine that?
[23:44] <Morgansl> legend2440: some things dont seen to work..
[23:44] <histo> btice: you can type in lspci in a terminal to get a list of devices
[23:44] <captainkirk> ok, so maybe this is solution then. just create new vm, and start again
[23:44] <Laque> captainkirk: indeed
[23:44] <histo> btice: it should be called VGA adapter or something, and will list the make/chipset
[23:44] <captainkirk> *sigh* more work....
[23:45] <Laque> captainkirk: if it's on a vm, you can create a new virtual drive and install the new system on that. so you may copy settings and files over from the old drive
[23:45] <SeaPhor> btice, lshw -C video
[23:45] <Jordan_U> a_: Did that command output ( among other things ) a line like 'gpg: key AF1CDFA9: public key "Launchpad PPA for Ubuntu-X" imported' ?
[23:46] <captainkirk> laque: so, same vm, create new disk and install 9.04 64bit server on it, then boot to it and copy necessary files from other (old) disk\
[23:46] <btice> histo -- Intel Corporation 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]
[23:46] <legend2440> Morgansl: like what?
[23:46] <ASrock> i just installed ubuntu netbook remix 9.04 on my eeepc 900hd and the mouse lags on the home screen are there any fixes for this?
[23:46] <Morgansl> legend2440: like #2
[23:46] <Laque> captainkirk: yeah, you'll just attach the old virtual drive as a second drive after setting up the new one. that'll give you full access to all the old stuff
[23:47] <Jordan_U> !intel | ASrock
[23:47] <histo> btice: hrm.. one thing you can try to fix some of the video artifacts is to disable extra effects.
[23:47] <Morgansl> legend2440: and so on
[23:47] <a_> Jordan_U: yes
[23:47] <histo> btice: hit Alt+F2 and type in metacity --replace   then hit enter
[23:47] <histo> btice: see if that helps
[23:47] <Jordan_U> a_: Good, do you know how to install packages with synaptic or apt-get ?
[23:47] <captainkirk> laque: ok, ill think about that for a bit, got to go to a meeting now, but i think it may be a good solution
[23:47] <Kerio> hello
[23:47] <captainkirk> cheers
[23:47] <Morgansl> legend2440: i cant see anything like that
[23:47] <cheng> does anyone knows how to install pidgin 2.6.2 on easy peasy??? thanks
[23:48] <Laque> captainkirl: cya around ^_^
[23:48] <a_> Jordan_U: with synaptic. yes
[23:48] <histo> cheng: what is easy peasy?
[23:48] <legend2440> Morgansl: typing  alsamixer in terminal doesnt work?
[23:48] <Kerio> i installed xubuntu today, wasn't to happy with it though. I have did a: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:48] <cheng>  i think its a verion of ubuntu eee
[23:48] <Kerio> its done
[23:48] <Kerio> anything else i should do/think of?
[23:48] <btice> histo -- It does not seem to have done anything.
[23:48] <cheng> for netbooks
[23:49] <histo> btice: the artifacts are still there?
[23:49] <Morgansl> legend2440:  sorry its #3 and on
[23:49] <Laque> Kerio: if the xubuntu-desktop package wasn't removed, you should 'sudo aptitude purge xubuntu-desktop'
[23:49] <Jordan_U> a_: Good, install "xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4" and remember to go back to the official drivers before you upgrade to the next version of Ubuntu by installing "xserver-xorg-video-intel"
[23:49] <histo> btice: You can also System > Preferences > Visual Effects and set it for None
[23:49] <Morgansl> legend2440: i was not counting the first
[23:49] <btice> histo -- I have the same issue. Some characters render as garbage, and in a command window, some letters are against a gray background for no apparent reason. (At the moment, it's lower-case "L")
[23:50] <btice> histo -- Visual Effects is already at none.
[23:50] <histo> btice: Has this problem always been present?
[23:50] <Kerio> okej did that now, anything else i should do/think of? :)
[23:50] <pilif12p> How do i fix a broken package? remove it? reinstall?
[23:51] <btice> histo -- Until this morning, this was a Windows XP laptop that had gotten so abused by crapware that it wasn't working well any more. (It belongs to my sister-in-law.)
[23:51] <Laque> Kerio: that should be it, just configure your ubuntu-desktop as you like XD
[23:51] <histo> pilif12p: sudo aptitude reinstalll <packagename)
[23:51] <histo> btice: Thats odd maybe a font problem?
[23:51] <pilif12p> I did that, it wont work
[23:51] <Kerio> okej, so now just reboot and it will be ubuntu?
[23:51] <Laque> Kerio: yep
[23:51] <histo> btice: its a clean install i'm assuming.
[23:51] <Kerio> ok thx
[23:52] <btice> histo -- I've tried setting the font to something else, but after a few minutes that goes bad, too.
[23:52] <btice> histo -- Yes, a clean install, after running dban.
[23:52] <SeaPhor> btice, have you already got all the updates?
[23:52] <histo> btice: thats really wierd
[23:52] <Laque> btice: did you check the install disks for defects before installing?
[23:52] <btice> histo -- Also, I've downloaded and installed all the updates (197 MB of them). The problem was there before the updates and after.
[23:53] <btice> Laque -- Yes, I had the disc check itself and it said it was OK.
[23:53] <legend2440> Morgansl: yes different hardware has different settings. i think most important steps involve making sure  Mic is unmuted and the word  Capture is seen under word  Mic. but your audio card may need some specific tweaking
[23:53] <Laque> interesting
[23:53] <legend2440> Morgansl: what audio card you have?
[23:54] <histo> btice: I miss understood your original problem. That really wierd that only certain characters are getting corrupted.
[23:54] <histo> btice: perhaps someone else will know how to fix it.
[23:54] <pilif12p> is there like a system restore in ubuntu?
[23:54] <Morgansl> legend2440: Card: HDA NVidia                                                             │
[23:54] <Morgansl> │ Chip: SigmaTel STAC9200
[23:54] <a_> Jordan_U: thats weird. I can't find a package by that name
[23:54] <Morgansl> i think
[23:55] <SeaPhor> pilif12p, yes, its called keeping a separate /home...
[23:55] <btice> histo et al -- At the moment, for example, in FireFox's address bar, there are several characters that appear to be showing up in Strikethrough, but others aren't. In other places (Windows title bar) some characters appear fine in some places, but others are corrupt and unreadable.
[23:55] <btice> (Sorry. That's "Window's title bar. No "Windows" here.)
[23:55] <a_> Jordan_U: I can't find "xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4"
[23:55] <legend2440> Morgansl: in terminal try    lspci | grep -i audio   whats it say?
[23:56] <Morgansl> legend2440: 00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[23:57] <legend2440> Morgansl: in terminal try  aplay -l. more than one card listed?
[23:57] <Jordan_U> a_: Update the list of available packages ( "Reload" in synaptic )
[23:57] <ASrock> is there a way to lower the graphics settings for the UNR screen so it responds faster?
[23:58] <apraxas> windows . yes .. i have windows in my house.. on my workstation ? gnome
[23:58] <Kerio> it did not work
[23:58] <Kerio> it is still xubuntu
[23:58] <SeaPhor> pilif12p, yes, its called keeping a separate /home... http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=57&Itemid=52
[23:58] <Kerio> even though all the commands seem to work
[23:58] <Morgansl> legend2440: card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]  / Subdevices: 0/1  /Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 that is all i get
[23:58] <Kerio> but it is still xubuntu upon reboot
[23:59] <Morgansl> legend2440: the / is a line break
[23:59] <Kerio> any ideas? im trying to switch from xubuntu to ubuntu