[00:33] <jcastro> is there something up with the server and/or client? I can't add a PC to my account
[00:33] <jcastro> it times out waiting for the oauth thing
[00:33] <jcastro> except now my client seems to think I'm connected so it doesn't give me the option to connect anymore
[01:09] <joseph> Hello I am using version 2009.05.14-0ubuntu1.  Is this the latest version?
[03:45] <KnifeySpooney> how do I get rid of the "ubuntuone-synchronized" emblems in Nautilus?
[07:58] <JDahl> I am running Karmic,  and my desktop foldes have received a green marker.. Does this mean that those folders have been uploaded to an UbuntuOne server with my permission?
[07:58] <eagles0513875> without you mean
[07:58] <JDahl> eagles0513875, yes.. Sorry.
[08:00] <eagles0513875> JDahl: think its still early here in eruope so might not be much activity in here or other ubuntu related channels
[08:01] <JDahl> eagles0513875, that's probably true
[08:01] <eagles0513875> JDahl: i would just idle about in here and ask your question throughout the day
 JDahl: that's bug 450112
 Launchpad bug 450112 in ubuntuone-client "Entire Hard Drive Marked as ubuntuone-synchronized" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/450112
[08:08] <eagles0513875> JDahl: :) at least there is a bug filed against it. if worse comes to worse just suspend ur connection to 1
[09:11] <amirman> i can't get the ubuntuone client to connect with my account
[09:12] <amirman> i'm using the 9.10 beta
[10:26] <Ng> hmm I seem to have green tick emblems on everything after applying karmic updates this morning
[10:37] <wgrant> Ng: Bug #450112
[10:37] <Ng> :)
[12:33] <sageNsand> Ubuntuone won't launch in Karmic so I reported it in launchpad. Ubuntu in Terminal says command not found
[12:33] <sageNsand> I'll try and test it another day
[12:34] <fagan> sageNsand: what happens when you open applications>internet>ubuntu one?
[12:35] <fagan> sageNsand: it doesnt have a terminal command.
[12:36] <Chipaca> ubuntuone-client-applet should be runnable from the terminal
[12:36] <Chipaca> and /usr/lib/ubuntuone/ubuntuone-syncdaemon is the other half
[12:37] <fagan> Chipaca: but you need to authorise the computer first
[12:37] <Chipaca> fagan: before starting syncdaemon, yes
[12:37] <Chipaca> the applet takes care of that
[12:37] <fagan> Oh ok
[12:37] <sageNsand> application>internet gives me error syncdaemon closed unexpectedly and Launchpad Login Service opened in Firefox
[12:38] <fagan> Then login to launchpad and say authorise this computer
[12:38] <fagan> then it should work
[12:39] <Chipaca> sageNsand: maybe you should try u1sync --authorize
[12:40] <sageNsand> Is this email address going to be made public in the future? maybe i should make another one
[12:41] <fagan> No
[12:43] <fagan> sageNsand: Your email isnt public
[12:45] <sageNsand> I press the Sign In but Im not transferred to another page, the page just refreshes
[12:45] <fagan> Do you have a launchpad account?
[12:46] <sageNsand> Yes I have a launchpad account
[12:47] <fagan> sageNsand: then it should work, make sure you typed your email and password correctly
[12:48] <sageNsand> launchpad shows me signed in
[12:48] <Chipaca> sageNsand: *maybe* you've gotten stuck in an openid loop? if that's the case, nuking your launchpad cookies should unstick you
[12:48] <fagan> Then try open ubuntuone again
[12:50] <sageNsand> I loged out and then loged back in
[12:51] <sageNsand> shall I try to launch ubuntuone again
[12:53] <sageNsand> I launch it again and I get a Preferences dialog and a closed unexpectedly error again
[12:53] <fagan> sageNsand: are all the updates installed?
[12:54] <sageNsand> Udate mgr says Im up to date
[12:55] <fagan> check for updates
[12:56] <sageNsand> I used Udate manager to check for updates, is there another way?
[12:58] <sageNsand> Shall I try Ubuntuone from Preferences instead of Internet
[12:59] <sageNsand> either way I get the Ubuntu One Preferences dialog and the syncdaemon closed unexpectedly
[13:00] <sageNsand> I reported that error half hour ago
[13:02] <sageNsand> Bug 450268
[13:03] <sageNsand> I made that public hahaha
[13:04] <sageNsand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/450268
[13:05] <sageNsand> I just clicked on the link I posted and it says public
[13:06] <sageNsand> ubuntuone-syncdaemon crashed with OSError in main()
[13:07] <sageNsand> at least I have a account for ubuntuone
[13:08] <sageNsand> I recall going to a page to dnload the application?
[13:11] <sageNsand> gotta run, I'll check back later, thank you
[13:36] <lordmetroid> I get the ubuntuone-synchronized emblem on all and any of my files on my system
[13:37] <aquarius> lordmetroid, Bug #450112
[13:37] <aquarius> please mark as "this bug affects me too"
[13:38] <lordmetroid> Ahh there we go, thank you
[13:39]  * jblount_ stabs today in the face with an awesome stick
[13:51] <hamaxx> hy, is it possible to change frequency of sync?
[13:51] <hamaxx> I couldn't find config file
[13:55] <jblount> hamaxx: Unless dobey corrects me, I think we use inotify to sync when the local files change.
[13:56] <hamaxx> i found /etc/xdg/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.conf with this line
[13:56] <hamaxx> mark_interval.default = 120
[13:56] <hamaxx> so this could be it
[13:57] <jblount> verterok: ^^ ?
[13:59] <hamaxx> I am searching for this option because ubuntuone-syncd has 100% cpu usage every N seconds
[14:00] <hamaxx> (i have about 2000 files in ubuntu one folder)
[14:00] <verterok> hamaxx: no, that's the interval to write a "MARK" in the log file, showing the queues and cache hit/miss ratio
[14:06] <hamaxx> can this be reason for high cpu usage?
[14:12] <hamaxx> it's exactly 60s between each "burst"
[14:17] <joshuahoover> harmaxx: if you look at ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log how big are the logs there? i'm guessing syncdaemon.log is getting quite large
[14:17] <verterok> hamaxx: no it's a lightweight op
[14:17] <verterok> joshuahoover: the latest 1.0.0, only generates 1MB log files ;)
[14:18] <verterok> hamaxx: do you have bandwidth throttling enabled?
[14:18] <joshuahoover> verterok: ah, yes, good point :) i guess i should've asked if he has the latest update
[14:19] <hamaxx> where can i check version?
[14:20] <hamaxx> apt-get says it's up to date, but ...
[14:20] <verterok> hamaxx: apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client
[14:20] <hamaxx> Installed: 0.96.0+r231-0ubuntu1~ppa1~jaunty
[14:21] <verterok> so, maybe the version wasn't released yet :)
[14:21] <hamaxx> was new version released today?
[14:21] <hamaxx> my mirror is a bit behind(but it's local)
[14:21] <verterok> hamaxx: as joshuahoover pointed out, the log file migth be getting quite big
[14:22] <hamaxx> omg log folder is 67.2 MB :)
[14:22] <hamaxx> can i just erase everything without breaking it?
[14:23] <verterok> hamaxx: the log files?
[14:23] <hamaxx> yes. I suppose I can :)
[14:23] <verterok> hamaxx: you need to truncate the file instead of removing it
[14:24] <verterok> hamaxx: cat /dev/null > ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log ;)
[14:24] <verterok> hamaxx: or you can just restart the client and it will rotate the file
[14:25] <hamaxx> I'm sure daemon will create new file if I delete it?
[14:25] <verterok> hamaxx: so you keep getting new logs
[14:25] <verterok> hamaxx: no, it will use the old file descriptor
[14:25] <hamaxx> oh ok
[14:26] <hamaxx> thanks guys :)
[14:26] <aquarius> dobey, ping?
[14:26] <hamaxx> you are great :)
[14:48] <legend2440> i am interested in getting started with ubuntuone. are services like this safe and secure. i am planning to try it out by storing a clonezilla backup of my ubuntu partition.i guess security is my biggest concern at this point. any advice?
[14:49] <joshuahoover> legend2440: we transport everything over ssl...we do not encrypt in storage...if you want your data stored encrypted, then you need to use something like karmic's encrypted home directory or similar solutions
[14:50] <legend2440> joshuahoover: i am using karmic. does that mean my home directory is encrypted or is that something i would have had to enable at installation?
[14:51] <joshuahoover> legend2440: you have to enable that at installation...i'm not sure if you can do that afterwards...maybe aquarius or someone else in here can chime in with more info on that
[14:51] <legend2440> joshuahoover: ok thanks
[14:53] <aquarius> legend2440, your home folder is not encrypted by default. I believe you can turn on encryption after installation, but I'm not 100% sure how myself
[14:54] <aquarius> legend2440, http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/02/jaunty-encrypted-home-directories.html seems relevant
[14:54] <legend2440> aquarius: thanks. will look into it.
[14:54] <aquarius> and Dustin Kirkland's the chap to speak to about this :)
[14:56] <dobey> aquarius: hey
[14:57] <aquarius> ah, hey dobey, was going to point you at Bug #450112
[14:57] <aquarius> dobey, since lots of people are experiencing it ;)
[14:57] <dobey> yeah, anyone using humanity for the icon theme anyway
[14:58] <aquarius> that would be me, then :)
[14:58] <aquarius> I did try and take a glance myself but I got way confused. I assume you know why it's happening?
[14:59] <legend2440> aquarius:thanks for your help. i guess my main question is if i upload a clonezilla backup of my ubuntu partition to ubuntuone for safe keeping will it be secure?because it seems if someone were to get access to it it would be very easy for them to install it and browse my "stuff"sorry i've never used a service like this before and i am concerned
[15:00] <jblount> MEETING BEGINS
[15:00] <jblount> Desktop+! Let's meet! Say "me" if you'd like to respond with your TODO / DONE / BLOCKED
[15:00] <jblount> CardinalFang
[15:00] <jblount> statik
[15:00] <jblount> urbanape
[15:00] <jblount> aquarius
[15:00] <jblount> teknico_
[15:00] <jblount> rodrigo_1
[15:00] <jblount> vds
[15:00] <jblount> dobey
[15:00] <teknico> me
[15:00] <rodrigo_1> me
[15:00] <CardinalFang> meh
[15:00] <vds> me
[15:00] <jblount> me
[15:01] <dobey> i don't know where i stand right now
[15:01] <aquarius> me
[15:01] <aquarius> legend2440, hey, just let me take this standup meeting and then I'll be with you :)
[15:01] <legend2440> aquarius: thanks
[15:02] <dobey> me
[15:03] <urbanape> me
[15:03] <teknico> I'll start
[15:03] <teknico> DONE: completed and landed the split up of form schemas according to the new design (#439089); helped vds with CouchDb database compaction; started updating the contacts web templates to the layout of the new design (#439089)
[15:03] <teknico> TODO: finish updating the contacts web templates to the layout of the new design (#439089); integrating the adaption of contacts web details and add/edit pages to the new design (#439090); integrating the client-side code needed by the contacts web ui (#439093)
[15:03] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:03] <teknico> next: rodrigo_1
[15:03] <rodrigo_1> • DONE: More snowy testing (success!). Submitted evo-couchdb package with patch for working around an e-d-s bug for live queries. Started looking at improving notes tests
[15:03] <rodrigo_1> • TODO: Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. Simplify tomboy syncing config UI. API documentation for couchdb-glib. Make sandy's snowy test suite work with our server (http://git.gnome.org/cgit/snowy/tree/api/tests.py). Improve notes views tests. Tomboy XML<->HTML
[15:03] <rodrigo_1> • BLOCKED: no
[15:03] <rodrigo_1> next: CardinalFang
[15:05] <CardinalFang> DONE: fixed bug in desktopcouch dependencies.  re-packaged couchdb for hardy for datacenter.
[15:05] <CardinalFang> TODO: testing
[15:05] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: none
[15:05] <CardinalFang> vds!
[15:05] <vds> DONE:still working on couchdb compaction #449402
[15:05] <vds> TODO: finish the branch as quick as I can, if tests would only help a bit...
[15:05] <vds> BLOCKED:
[15:05] <vds> jblount all yours
[15:05] <jblount> DONE: Weekend, Holiday, small copy branch
[15:05] <jblount> TODO: Get /files/ in a production ready state. Like now.
[15:05] <jblount> BLOCKED: No
[15:05] <jblount> aquarius: you
[15:06] <aquarius> ⚀ DONE: chased RT on getting working couchdb deployed to cloud; successfully synced tomboy notes to U1 (edge) (!!)
[15:06] <aquarius> ⚁ TODO: look at oauth-enabling twisted; make tomboy first-sync experience nicer
[15:06] <aquarius> ⚂ BLOCKED: working couchdb not yet deployed to cloud
[15:06] <aquarius> ⚃ BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 0 (!!)
[15:06] <aquarius> dobey, you're up
[15:06] <dobey> ☺ DONE: Triage, 1.0.0 client/protocol releases, Reviews
[15:06] <dobey> ☹ TODO: Fix #450112, Prepare 1.0.1 release, Fix some applet icon bits
[15:06] <dobey> ☹ BLCK: None.
[15:07] <urbanape> DONE: Celebrated the imperialist exploitation hero worship of one Christoffa Corombo
[15:07] <urbanape> TODO: Getting contacts js done and out the door.
[15:07] <urbanape> BLOCK: None
[15:07] <dobey> urbanape: your roll
[15:07] <dobey> doh
[15:07] <urbanape> EOM?
[15:08] <aquarius> no statik?
[15:10] <jblount> MEETING ENDS (suckas!)
[15:10]  * jblount gets back to his css mcfixing
[15:16] <aquarius> legend2440, hey
[15:16] <legend2440> aquarius: hi
[15:17] <legend2440> aquarius: so this is where the developers hide out? :)
[15:17] <aquarius> legend2440, indeed it is :)
[15:18] <legend2440> aquarius: your secret is safe with me
[15:18]  * CardinalFang hides.
[15:18] <aquarius> legend2440, we do try to not keep it a secret ;) This is the best place to come for questions, because we're all hanging out here
[15:19] <CardinalFang> Okay.  I'm testing, so I need to sync to karmic.  Wish me luck
[15:20] <legend2440> aquarius: should i repeat my last question?
[15:20] <aquarius> legend2440, to answer your question: the transport between your machine and Ubuntu One is secure. We don't encrypt the saved data, because we want to integrate with Ubuntu's existing encryption work on the desktop, so if you sync an encrypted file it will be stored as encrypted at Ubuntu One
[15:21] <dobey> encryption is a very hard problem to get right, for very little gain :)
[15:22] <legend2440> aquarius: i am not that fmamilaiar with wncryption. so if i uploaded my backup to ubuntuone unencrypted i am assuming it would be secure ?
[15:22] <legend2440> *familiar
[15:22] <legend2440> encryption
[15:23] <aquarius> legend2440, your data stored at Ubuntu One isn't available to anyone else, unless you explicitly share it with them
[15:23] <hamaxx> or if ubuntu one team breaks something :)
[15:23] <legend2440> aquarius: ok thats what i was concerned about  thank you very much for your help
[15:25] <CardinalFang> legend2440, You may encrypt files using your own scheme locally, but we have more in mind than computer/computer sharing.  If you have something you want private, even from "us", then you should look into "gnupg" (called "gpg" in some places.
[15:26] <CardinalFang> legend2440, $ gpg --symmetric secret_file; mv secret_file.gpg ~/Ubuntu\ One/
[15:26] <statik> hey popey, around?
[15:26] <legend2440> CardinalFang: yes i am familiar  with gpg. i will look into that. thanks
[15:28] <popey> statik: yes
[15:29] <aquarius> legend2440, there is also the Encrypted Private Directory work which is built in to Ubuntu; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[15:29] <aquarius> popey, ?
[15:29] <legend2440> aquarius: thanks i'll read that
[15:30] <popey> aquarius: ?
[15:30] <aquarius> [15:28] <popey> statik: yes
[15:30] <popey> 15:26:17 < statik> hey popey, around?
[15:31] <aquarius> oh! didn't see that. d'oh :)
[15:31] <popey> :)
[15:31] <popey> was wondering how far back in time we were gonna have to go then
[15:32] <popey> the "green ticks on every file" is a known bug isnt it?
[15:33] <dobey> yes
[15:33] <dobey> and already a branch to fix it :)
[15:33] <popey> ok
[15:35] <urbanape> brb
[15:37] <CardinalFang> Funny version.  udev 147~-5
[15:38] <legend2440> on another subject. any usplash gurus here? i think i found a karmic bug that is effecting my F1-F6 tty consoles after usplash update. from other people in #ubuntu+1 it seems to be only affecting users with nvidia cards.
[15:40] <dobey> grr firefox
[15:45] <legend2440> legend2440: also since todays karmic updates all my folders and files have  the ubuntuone checkmark next to them. is that supposed to happen?
[15:51] <aquarius> legend2440, the checkmark thing is a known bug, and already fixed, but the fix isn't yet released
[15:52] <legend2440> aquarius: ok thanks
[15:52] <aquarius> legend2440, you can use a different icon theme as a workaround until the fix is released. Or just enjoy the green checkmarkiness of your desktop :P
[15:52] <dobey> heh
[15:53] <legend2440> aquarius: i'll wait for fix release. they dont look that bad  :)
[15:53] <aquarius> dobey, should have made the emblem your hackergotchi ;)
[15:54] <dobey> *shudder*
[15:54] <dobey> i hate that term
[15:54] <dobey> it makes absolutely no sense!
[15:56] <dobey> it's not like i have a hacker on a keychain toy thing that i have to push a button every now and then to give it some jolt cola or ramen, or to play some form of fetch involving complex math problems
[15:57]  * dobey really wished that bandai had sued for likeness of copyright/trademark infringement
[16:16] <statik> hey CardinalFang, aquarius: I see that the latest release of desktopcouch is 4.4, but whats in karmic is 4.2. is an upload being done to karmic?
[16:21] <aquarius> statik, hey
[16:22] <aquarius> rick spencer flagged a few changes with couchgrid which are in 4.4
[16:22] <aquarius> er, 0.4.4 :)
[16:23] <aquarius> and there are some fixes for replication stuff, like not replicating the "users" database
[16:24] <aquarius> I'm not sure where CardinalXiminez_ / CardinalFang is on uploads
[16:25] <CardinalXiminez_> statik, james_w should have uploaded it by now.  I'll find out.
[16:26] <statik> ah, ok. thanks!
[16:34] <verterok> kenvandine: ping
[16:34] <kenvandine> verterok, pong
[16:34] <verterok> kenvandine: hi :)
[16:34] <kenvandine> hey
[16:35] <verterok> kenvandine: I was wondering if we should bump the importance of Bug #440908 and try to include it karmic
[16:37] <verterok> kenvandine: what do you think?
[16:37] <kenvandine> looking
[16:37] <kenvandine> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~verterok/ubuntuone-client/survive-to-broken-vm-metadata/revision/245
[16:37] <kenvandine> is that the diff?
[16:39] <verterok> kenvandine: basically yes, I need to cleanup it a bit to avoid the code duplication, but that's the change
[16:39] <kenvandine> and does this happen when someone locally deletes the directory someone else has shared with them?
[16:39] <verterok> kenvandine: no, I think this happens when someone accepted a shared firectory with a previous version of the client, and the metadata is corrupted
[16:40] <verterok> *directory
[16:40] <verterok> after the cleanup the diff should be half or less of the current one
[16:40] <kenvandine> humm... so how likely are users to run into it?
[16:40]  * kenvandine tends to think it would be a good idea by the way :)
[16:41] <kenvandine> adding exception handling can only help :)
[16:41] <kenvandine> *usually* :)
[16:43] <verterok> kenvandine: brand new users "shouldn't" hit this bug
[16:44] <leonel> hello
[16:45] <leonel> after yesterdays update in  karmic  all my gnome desktop  icons got the   ubuntuone synched  emblem
[16:47] <kenvandine> verterok, i am consulting someone
[16:47] <kenvandine> hang on
[16:48] <verterok> ok, thanks
[16:48] <kenvandine> verterok, ok, can you prepare it as a patch to the package?
[16:49] <verterok> kenvandine: I don't know what that means, but sure! :)
[16:49] <verterok> dobey: help, please? ^
[16:49] <kenvandine> hehe
[16:49] <kenvandine> just add that targeted patch to the package, not a new release
[16:49] <kenvandine> dobey can do it, assuming he has time
[16:49] <kenvandine> or i can help in a bit
[16:50] <kenvandine> go ahead and clean it up though... and please make sure you are very confident it is regression free :)
[16:50] <verterok> kenvandine: ok
[16:50]  * verterok looks the lp bug page
[16:51]  * verterok wonders if he shoudl click on "target to release" link
[16:51] <kenvandine> nah
[16:51] <kenvandine> prepare it and we will handle that :)
[16:52] <verterok> kenvandine: ok, thanks! :)
[16:53] <kenvandine> np
[17:03] <statik> verterok, kenvandine: I think we have 3 patches to ubuntuone-client: the emblem fix, the corrupt metadata fix, and the conflict fix that facundobatista is working on
[17:03] <statik> rodrigo_1, can you review this branch? https://edge.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/nautilus-bad-emblems/+merge/13282
[17:04] <statik> rodrigo_1: also, is tomboy note syncing working if you run it against edge?
[17:04] <facundobatista> statik, I started to work on it... I already thought the fix, that shouldn't be complicated, but I want to test it correctly
[17:04] <aquarius> statik, yes, tomboy note syncing works against edge
[17:04] <facundobatista> statik, is not one day work, but it shouldn't take the week neither
[17:05] <statik> facundobatista, then it probably can't go into karmic
[17:05] <aquarius> statik, there are some issues with editing stuff n the web interface, but that doesn't need changes in karmic
[17:05] <facundobatista> statik, let's see what I can do
[17:05] <statik> ok
[17:08] <verterok> kenvandine: branch proposed, quite smaller diff :)
[17:08] <verterok> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~verterok/ubuntuone-client/survive-to-broken-vm-metadata/+merge/13289
[17:20] <dobey> statik: there's some other icon issues to fix too, which i'm about to do
[17:23] <rodrigo_1> statik: yes, it works great against edge
[17:50] <statik> dobey, ian just asked me about icons being wrong, i guess thats the same icon issues you mentioned a few minutes ago?
[17:51] <dobey> statik: probably. fixing right now
[17:51] <statik> sweet
[17:52] <dobey> there was a related bug i believe, but i can't find it right now, because we have so many bugs coming in and lp's search isn't particularly great
[17:58] <statik> dobey: i've just gotten some more details from ian, and the thing he was wondering about was the panel icon being the hard drive with a cloud instead of an outline like the other panel icons
[18:00] <dobey> statik: because humanity doesn't have -idle and -offline icons for ubuntuone (and we aren't using -idle anyway, since it's the same as the app icon for not-humanity)
[18:00] <dobey> statik: but yes, same thing. i am fixing right now
[18:00] <statik> dobey: great! thanks for confirming its the same bug
[18:03] <dobey> sure
[18:31] <dobey> statik: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/idle-icon-fixups/+merge/13298 <- and here's the fix (in ubuntuone-client anyway, still need icons in humanity)
[18:31] <statik> thanks, looking now
[18:31] <dutchie> is there a way to tell which hash thing corresponds to which computer on https://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines/ ?
[18:32] <statik> dutchie: very soon we'll be automatically storing the computer name there and letting you edit the description of each computer so it's easier to tell them apart
[18:32] <dobey> statik: we already do
[18:32] <dobey> statik: that's been deployed for a bit now :)
[18:32] <statik> oh
[18:32] <statik> even better
[18:32] <dobey> well, i don't think we have editing for already-added tokens
[18:33] <dobey> but you can edit on the authorization page, and we do default to the computer name
[18:33] <dobey> for new tokens
[18:33] <dutchie> also, I discovered that edge.o.u.c exists. Is there a way to enable it?
[18:33] <statik> this afternoons rollout we should have the editing for already-added tokens also then
[18:34] <statik> dutchie, not sure what you mean by enable? you can use edge.o.u.c and access your live data, it's just the very latest webserver code
[18:34] <dutchie> statik: is there nothing different to how things work between the client and server then?
[18:35] <dobey> dutchie: after we stabalize things a bit, i think we'll probably set up something similar to how launchpad redirects to edge.lp.net
[18:35] <dobey> dutchie: i think we just have the web bits on edge right now
[18:48] <statik> jblount: also, https://admin.ubunet.canonical.com/~emurphy/cantclickfile.png the cloud is preventing me from clicking the very last file. I'm approving this branch anyway so we can unblock production rollout, and just iterate quickly on these remaining fixes. great work!
[18:48] <statik> oops, wrong window
[18:48] <jblount> statik: Eek! That was top secret info! I hope no one notices the new web ui!
[18:48] <jblount> :)
[18:49] <statik> heh
[19:07] <jcastro> is there a delay when someone wants to share something with me and when I get notified?
[19:08] <jcastro> also, if my client is syncing will the invitation be delayed until after the sync is done?
[19:09] <dobey> if you share something, the share is done in a separate thread inside a totally different process (nautilus)
[19:09] <dobey> and notification is via e-mail
[19:24] <leonel> I can't remove the  ubuntuone sychronized  emblem from all my gnome desktop  icons on  ubuntu karmic
[19:24] <leonel> this since yesterday's  ubuntuone-client upgrade
[19:24] <Chipaca> leonel: there's a bug about that
[19:24] <Chipaca> leonel: I think dobey is landing a fix RSN
[19:25] <leonel> Chipaca: thanks
[19:32] <dobey> the fix is in trunk already
[19:33] <Chipaca> leonel: ^ what The Man said
[19:35] <dobey> some more fixes need to land, and then can do a 1.0.1
[19:43] <leonel> Chipaca: thanks ..
[19:45] <Chipaca> if you need to connect to ubuntuone *now*, it isn't working. fs-2 is up, but fs-1 is borked. We're working on it.
[19:45] <Chipaca> when I said 'ubuntuone' there I meant the fs
[19:48] <dobey> desktop client
[19:50] <Chipaca> the wotsit
[19:50] <Chipaca> thingie
[19:53] <dobey> escpet there's no way for people to *use* fs-2 in lieu of fs-1 easily, since it's a SRV record thing
[20:06] <nimh> hey kids
[20:06] <nimh> dobey, were you responsibubble for the config applet?
[20:07] <dobey> maybe
[20:07] <dobey> depends on what you're going to say next :)
[20:08] <nimh> it's an amazing piece of software (it's also got your name on it, so don't try and hide)
[20:08] <nimh> :P
[20:09] <nimh> I'm trying to make the bw limiting stuff persistant
[20:09] <nimh> and I've added the bw_enabled and up/dn limits to the config
[20:09] <nimh> and can read them in
[20:09] <dobey> that's fixed already
[20:09] <nimh> it's just when I start, even if the bw_enabled is false, I always get the checkbox ticked
[20:09] <nimh> already? curses
[20:09] <dobey> they need to be stored by the syncdaemon's config, not the applet config
[20:10] <nimh> I thought it would be a good place to start hacking
[20:10] <dobey> yeah, 1.0.0 has the fix for that
[20:10] <nimh> hrm, any way to see how it was done?
[20:10] <dobey> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/ubuntuone-client/trunk/revision/246
[20:10] <dobey> read all that :)
[20:12] <nimh> how do I pull all the latest changes into my local bzr?
[20:12] <verterok> nimh: most of the code to store the config is just there because configglue is missing some required features, most of that should be removed once configglue is fixed :)
[20:12] <dobey> nimh: bzr pull
[20:13] <dobey> nimh: unless you committed some changes locally
[20:13] <nimh> I made some changes but I want to blow them away
[20:13] <dobey> bzr revert
[20:13] <dobey> bzr pull
[20:13] <dobey> (unless they are committed)
[20:13] <dobey> then i don't know how to do it exactly in-tree
[20:13] <dobey> i'd just rm -rf it and bzr branch again
[20:14] <nimh> yup, I think I just made a bunch of merges
[20:16] <trothigar> has couchdb support been implemented on the ubuntuone server side yet?
[20:17] <dobey> verterok: is your branch critical or not?
[20:17] <verterok> dobey: I think we agreed to include it
[20:18] <verterok> dobey: so, yes it's critical
[20:19] <dobey> ok
[20:19] <nimh> I don't ge tit
[20:19] <nimh> don't get it even
[20:20] <nimh> how come there are no changes in the client preferences app?
[20:20] <verterok> nimh: the client preferences app should request the values via DBus to syncdaemon...right?
[20:20] <dobey> nimh: the prefs app just gets/sets the settings via dbus
[20:21] <nimh> ah, so the dbus request stuff always stays the same?
[20:21] <dobey> yes unless it needs to change
[20:21] <dobey> but the problem was just that the settings didn't get stored anywhere by syncdaemon
[20:22] <nimh> okay, so that's making a lot more sense to me now
[20:22] <nimh> thanks
[20:25] <dutchie> on one.ubuntu.com: "To remove a computer from your account, select the check box next to it's name and click the remove button below."
[20:26] <dutchie> should be its
[20:27] <jblount> dutchie: Thanks! I actually got that fixed, and we should be able to roll it out in a bit today.
[20:27] <dobey> dutchie: file a bug against ubuntuone-servers please
[20:27] <dobey> oh
[20:28] <dobey> heh
[20:28] <jblount> dobey: :), silbs already caught that one.
[20:44] <mattgriffin> statik: hi elliot. can we use your conference line for our call in 15 min?
[20:47] <nimh> past my bedtime, night guys
[20:47] <verterok> g'night nimh
[20:47] <nimh> thanks for the dbus headsup btw, was just reading about it, pretty nifty
[20:47] <statik> mattgriffin, sure we can use my conf line
[20:48] <statik> trothigar, we're trying to get the last bits in place on the couchdb server side. authentication is more complicated there, so we're still working on it
[22:04] <statik> hi jtatum
[22:04] <jtatum> hi
[22:55] <vladanian> I have a little nest of folders that ubuntuone refuses to delete -- My Folders --> My Folders --> tomboy-sync --> 0 --> 0
[22:56] <vladanian> I'm trying to delete them through the web interface
[22:58] <vladanian> Oh, wait, they're going now -- I guess it takes a bit for the delete orders to catch up?
[22:59] <jblount> vladanian: Depending on where you delete them from, it could take a bit of time.
[23:00] <vladanian> jblount: thanks, everything caught up -- I'm trying to "start over" with u1
[23:01] <vladanian> Things have been a bit wacky for me ever since the My Folder location changed
[23:01] <jblount> vladanian: Sorry about that, things should be stable-ish now :)
[23:02] <vladanian> hmm, I'll have to debug it later, but I keep having the same issue -- my u1 applet connects and then disconnects
[23:02] <vladanian> I'm not sure what's wrong