[00:54] <fabrizio> is this the right distro for 2.0g 512rdram 40 hd-newbie
[00:55] <fabrizio> need interent word process and email not alot else
[01:00] <blkdg> hi, i have a PPC G3 iMac, and i installed Xubuntu 9.04 ALTERNATE on it. when it starts, i have to hold down ctrl, command and f1 for it to actually boot. i have to do this each time. when i looked around at my xorg.conf, i found it empty, how can i fill the xorg.conf file?
[01:01] <blkdg> i also added ide-disk to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and ran sudo update-initramfs -u
[01:02] <blkdg> i also added append="quiet splash video=radeonfb:1024x768" to /etc/yaboot.conf and ran sudo ybin -v
[01:03] <blkdg> these were fixes in the faq
[01:04] <blkdg> and after each one, i tried to reboot, but had to hold down that key combo
[01:04] <blkdg> i read about that combo here http://www.yellowjug.com/how-to/xubuntu-linux-on-imac-g3/
[01:04] <blkdg> but i don't know what to do to fix my xorg.conf problem
[01:18] <blkdg> thanks anyhow
[01:49] <_Techie_> wow, arent we dead today
[01:49] <_Techie_> ECHO echo echo echo
[02:28] <eido> is anyone familiar with ftp?  i wanted to create a folder with sub folders for each user and give them full access to only their folder but do not see how to do this.
[02:28] <eido> i was hoping to have just one main folder instead of everyone being in their ~ directory
[05:33] <Balsaq> _Pete_ are you here
[06:08] <likemindead> HALP PLZ. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/292083/
[06:08] <likemindead> How do I turn my wireless back on? It broke after my wife accidentally hit suspend. 0__o
[06:14] <likemindead> Anyone?
[06:18] <_Pete_> Balsaq: sometimes?
[06:19] <Balsaq> available to answer a cfew questions Pete
[06:22] <Balsaq> _Pete_ i am going to try to load xubuntu on a computer this week was wondering if it loads like ubuntu did...which is my only experience with linux stuff. this puter will be 2.0gz 40 g hd 512 rdram
[06:23] <_Pete_> Balsaq: do you mean the computer currently have ubuntu installed?
[06:23] <Balsaq> wondering if after i load if everything works, meaning, sound, printer and internet connection, like i did with buntu
[06:24] <Balsaq> no they are giving me 6 tuesday or wed...wil be 5 dell dim 8250's and 1 8200
[06:24] <Balsaq> i printed the spec so i know what they will be now...prolly 2.0-3.0g 40hd and 512 rdram
[06:25] <Balsaq> o from2002 era i think
[06:25] <Balsaq> business towers
[06:25] <Balsaq> my really old 1998 dell has the ubuntu
[06:26] <Balsaq> technically thats the one that need xfce but until i grt better i will experiment with they big business things cause the 1998 dellruns ok
[06:27] <Balsaq> to me it sem slike the xubu should go in just the same right? as far as finding the net and all?
[06:27] <_Pete_> yes
[06:28] <Balsaq> how about sound and printer...basics? does it have the software ti find those things too on its own?
[06:29] <_Pete_> sound yes, printer dont know, never owner one
[06:31] <Balsaq> well this will be fun then because ive never run buntu in anything execpt the 400mgz dell and its gotta be up to its wazoo with a fullubuntu install on it
[06:31] <Balsaq> can wait to watch it go on 2 or ghz
[06:36] <Balsaq> no w isee the xubuntu disc i have is going to be outdated any day....no biggie
[08:05] <Ongavezir> Aloha bruderz
[08:05] <Ongavezir> Hozsanna dicsoseges testvereim
[09:55] <boscop> I can't find the global proxy settings dialog in my xfce menu :(
[09:55] <boscop> where is it?
[10:06] <ablomen> boscop, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215627 << see the post of Noxide, maybe that works
[10:06] <boscop> thanks
[11:10] <lab> hi. I have installed xubuntu 9.04 on a AMD Sempron, All seems ok, but the screen resolution is unfortunately set to 640x480 and I can't change it. In addition: xorg.conf is empty. what should I do ?
[11:17] <sodium> hello
[11:17] <sodium> hello
[11:17] <sodium> :)
[11:17] <sodium> whats is fstab
[11:18] <sodium> i am  mounting my ntfs drives but i shows me warnings
[11:18] <sodium> :(
[11:18] <ablomen> sodium, fstab (/etc/fstab) is a file that contains what to do with internal/external media, where to mount drives etc
[11:18] <ablomen> !fstab
[11:19] <sodium> ok but how can i mountt drives
[11:19] <sodium> my disk mounter only mounts my flash drive
[11:20] <sodium> !diskmount
[11:20] <sodium> !mount
[11:23] <sodium> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[11:23] <sodium> :((
[11:24] <sodium> lulz done
[11:24] <sodium> :))
[11:33] <AncientSocrates> hi
[11:33] <AncientSocrates> is xubuntu faster than freebsd?
[11:35] <_Pete_> doing what?
[11:36] <AncientSocrates> simple things
[11:36] <AncientSocrates> using the file manager
[11:36] <AncientSocrates> surfing the net
[11:36] <AncientSocrates> using multimedia
[11:37] <_Pete_> maybe these can give you some hints: http://www.google.fi/search?q=linux+vs+freebsd+benchmark
[11:38] <_Pete_> But doing those,I doubt if there is any difference it's small
[11:39] <_Pete_> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pcbsd_vs_kubuntu&num=1
[11:43] <AncientSocrates> ok
[11:43] <AncientSocrates> pete
[11:44] <AncientSocrates> a lot of people prefer debian
[11:44] <AncientSocrates> over *ubuntu
[11:44] <AncientSocrates> why?
[11:44] <_Pete_> it said to be more stable
[11:45] <nikolam> AncientSocrates, a lot software available, a lot of users > good community support
[11:45] <nikolam> for both ubuntu and debian
[11:45] <AncientSocrates> _Pete_ : by more stable you mean they use older software
[11:45] <nikolam> debian works on every thinkable cpu/hardware platform imaginable
[11:45] <AncientSocrates> thant ubuntu
[11:45] <nikolam> I prefer saying stable.
[11:46] <nikolam> ubuntu both have LTS (Like Debian releases) and newer stable releases
[11:46] <AncientSocrates> i am now usin xubuntu beta
[11:46] <nikolam> it depends what you need
[11:46] <AncientSocrates> i think they update and fix any bugs very fast
[11:46] <nikolam> beta is for testing etc
[11:47] <nikolam> but you can use it and upgrade to released version in fly
[11:47] <nikolam> when it is released
[11:47] <nikolam> I always suggest to new users, latest stable release
[11:48] <AncientSocrates> i used fedora in the pat
[11:48] <AncientSocrates> past
[11:48] <AncientSocrates> the beta
[11:48] <AncientSocrates> i had some problems
[11:48] <AncientSocrates> but not much
[11:49] <nikolam> AncientSocrates, what are your needs, what is that you need, will reflect what you should use
[11:49] <nikolam> I started with xubuntu on olda P3 machine 2 years ago. And I fall in love with Xfce and now running Xubuntu 64-bit
[11:50] <nikolam> also, after chaising multiple stable releases and upgrading,
[11:50] <AncientSocrates> cool
[11:50] <nikolam> i settled on latest LTS
[11:50] <nikolam> And I am waiting next LTS.
[11:51] <nikolam> And I install newest progrmas on LTS
[11:51] <AncientSocrates> actually i have an old pc
[11:51] <AncientSocrates> that i use rarely to store data
[11:51] <nikolam> but I say again, for new user, latest stable is what i recommend, since you can post bug reports then
[11:52] <nikolam> oh, what is conf. you are yusing now and what is conf of that old pc?
[11:52] <AncientSocrates> 48 giga hdd, nvidia 5200fx gpu, 512 sd ram, 2,3 ghz 1 core cpu
[11:52] <nikolam> that is nice machine
[11:53] <nikolam> seems that xubuntu flies on that
[11:53] <AncientSocrates> yes i use it rarely
[11:53] <AncientSocrates> to store stuff to my second hdd
[11:53] <AncientSocrates> or multimedia
[11:53] <AncientSocrates> or anyway something simple
[11:54] <nikolam> ok, I got to go to do some stuff, tak care!
[11:54] <AncientSocrates> and i want it to run fast]
[11:54] <AncientSocrates> use debian & icewm as window manager and stay cool
[11:54] <AncientSocrates> someone from ##linux told me to use that on it
[11:54] <AncientSocrates> would it be faster?
[11:54] <nikolam> AncientSocrates, also try lxde, it IS fast
[11:54] <nikolam> and low-memory footprint
[11:55] <nikolam> but with machine you have, all desktop env. will work just great
[11:55] <AncientSocrates> is lxde lighter than xfce?
[11:55] <nikolam> it is just my thinking that i like Xfce the best and also I can use Gnome applets for panels in it :)
[11:56] <nikolam> yes, lxde is like, for very small memory machines
[11:56] <AncientSocrates> ok thanks for the info
[11:56] <nikolam> I think there is even new ubuntu spin-off with lxde
[11:56] <nikolam> ok, buy
[12:26] <AncientSocrates> hi
[12:26] <AncientSocrates> i use xubuntu 9.10 beta
[12:26] <AncientSocrates> when i open a window
[12:26] <AncientSocrates> lets say my home folder
[12:26] <AncientSocrates> the window is stuck in the upper left corner
[12:27] <AncientSocrates> i cant move it and there is no X button
[12:27] <AncientSocrates> is this normal?
[12:28] <AncientSocrates> or a bug
[12:32] <ablomen> AncientSocrates, no windowmanager, press alt+f2 and type xfwm4
[12:38] <AncientSocrates> ok it worked
[12:38] <AncientSocrates> where can i find and mount my secondary ntfs hdd?
[12:40] <ablomen> AncientSocrates, run sudo fdisk -l
[12:42] <ablomen> see what device has ntfs as filesystem (need the /dev/sd* part), create a directory to mount it to (for example, sudo mkdir /media/windows) and then mount it (for example sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/windows)
[13:11] <AncientSocrates> so every time
[13:12] <AncientSocrates> i have to load xfwm4?
[13:12] <ablomen> ehm no you should not have to
[13:13] <ablomen> if you do, something is wrong with your session..
[13:23] <_Pete_> excellent, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[14:16] <AncientSocrates> ok
[14:16] <AncientSocrates> done
[14:16] <AncientSocrates> i have another problem with xubuntu 9.10\
[14:16] <AncientSocrates> when it boots up
[14:16] <AncientSocrates> it says
[14:16] <AncientSocrates> acpi resource error
[14:16] <AncientSocrates> conflicts with acpi rprg
[14:16] <AncientSocrates> something like that
[14:19] <AncientSocrates> any idea?
[14:25] <knome> AncientSocrates, xubuntu 9.10 is still under development, please file a bug
[14:25] <AncientSocrates> acpi
[14:25] <AncientSocrates> conflicts with acpi smrg
[14:25] <AncientSocrates> it says
[14:26] <AncientSocrates> but it loads ok
[14:26] <AncientSocrates> i can log in to the systme
[14:26] <knome> then no problem).
[14:26] <AncientSocrates> this message is before you see the [OK]s during boot
[14:26] <AncientSocrates> should i reinstall xubuntu?
[14:27] <knome> no, if it works
[14:44] <lab> hi, where can I find instruction for upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04 ?
[14:44] <lab> thanks
[14:45] <knome> !upgrade | lab
[14:51] <sodium> y0
[14:52] <sodium> hello
[14:59] <Pres-Gas> Good morning?
[15:01] <sodium> good morning for u good nite for me
[15:01] <sodium> lol
[15:01] <Pres-Gas> Yeah, note the question mark
[15:02] <sodium> i have question how can i mount ext3 drive
[15:02] <Pres-Gas> Perhaps my traditional "Good morrow" is more neutral
[15:02] <sodium> ;-)
[15:02] <Pres-Gas> sodium, in what os?
[15:02] <sodium> xubuntu 8.10
[15:03] <Pres-Gas> Is the drive external, usb, internal....give us details, sodium?
[15:04] <sodium> yes usb dirve  works fine
[15:04] <sodium> but i cant see my all partitions in os
[15:04] <Pres-Gas> ...and it is not getting automounted then.
[15:05] <Pres-Gas> Ahhh...so some of the partitions show up?
[15:05] <sodium> noooooooo
[15:05] <sodium> :((
[15:05] <sodium> i have 6 partitions but only sda6(xubuntu)is there
[15:06] <Pres-Gas> so, sodium, do the partitions internal show up or are some of them missing as well?
[15:08] <sodium> no
[15:08] <sodium> plzz tell me how to mount all my disk drives
[15:08] <sodium> :(( i wanna them
[15:09] <Pres-Gas> I think checking out the logs may help you out on this.  You may have a problem that is preventing them mounting.
[15:09] <sodium> where are the logs :P
[15:10] <Pres-Gas> Navigate to /var/log/ and look at the files called messages and messages.0, syslog and syslog.0 and see if they mention your drives at all.
[15:11] <Pres-Gas> Why don't you also give us the output of "mount | grep /dev".
[15:12] <Pres-Gas> ...that is from a terminal, sodium.  Sorry if that was not clear
[15:14] <sodium> thanks dear i mount it
[15:16] <Pres-Gas> Now, let's not get personal.  Calling me dear...    ;)
[15:16] <Pres-Gas> So, wait, sodium, you are now able to mount your partitions?
[15:23] <sodium> o
[15:23] <sodium> no
[15:23] <sodium> i can't mount becas i don't know how to mount
[15:24] <Pres-Gas> hmmmm...lessee what ubottu knows about mounting...
[15:24] <Pres-Gas> !mount
[15:25] <sodium> brb
[15:25] <Pres-Gas> sodium, read over that link as well as looking over your logs....were you ever able to see these partitions?  I have been approaching this as if you were once able to see them.
[16:20] <lab> hi. which is the best way to install ATI driver for ubuntu 9.04 ? I followed these instructions and they were a disaster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI   . any suggestion? thanks
[16:21] <likemindead> !ATI
[16:22] <likemindead> Bummer.
[16:22] <lab> likemindead: this help is shitty
[16:22] <lab> it should be removed
[16:22] <lab> it corrupts installations
[16:23] <likemindead> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jaunty+ATI
[16:24] <lab> likemindead: you are idiot, let me tell you
[16:26] <BaGy> i'm find this for ATI cards https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[16:28] <BaGy> this is vork for me http://tan-com.com/posts/technology/fix-ubuntu-904-ati-driver-issue
[16:28] <BaGy> i have ATI  Radeon 9550
[16:34] <Pres-Gas> I would not use the tan-com article, people...changing all the repos and THEN pinning?  Seems a bit ham fisted to me
[16:36] <likemindead> Selling the ATI card and buying an NVIDIA one is the best option...
[18:22] <likemindead> !LoCo
[18:32] <andreavicari> hi everyone
[18:34] <likemindead> !hi | andreavicari
[18:36] <andreavicari> I have some questions about my ibook conf, can anyone help me?
[18:37] <likemindead> !ask | andreavicari
[18:39] <andreavicari> I compiled the kernel to speed it up, but then the airport showed some problems: it connects to the router but no traffic is allowed
[19:05] <Balsaq> _Pete_ may i ask you if you will be on here thursday after midnight (usa eastern time) to assist me with a install of xubuntu
[19:05] <Balsaq> i will have 2 computers running one to chat on here and of course the one that is getting the xubuntu
[19:20] <andreavicari> any clue where to find a tutorial about the kernel .config file?
[19:31] <genii> !kernel
[19:39] <n2diy> if I disable a daemon do I need to shutdown to stop it, or would loging out and back in suffice?
[19:40] <BaGy> n2diy, just log out
[19:41] <n2diy> BaGy: ok, thanks.
[20:02] <andreavicari> ubottu: thank you
[20:04] <andreavicari> got it, bye
[20:07]  * genii sips
[20:27] <blkdg> hi is anyone here using xubuntu on a PPC ?
[20:29] <deadmike> how long is this channel logged for?
[20:31] <TheSheep> blkdg: you can try on #ubuntu-ppc
[20:34] <Pres-Gas> deadmike, seems to be from 2004.  http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[20:34] <Pres-Gas> I bet if you did a google search pointing the "site:" directive to that address, you may find what you are looking for, deadmike
[20:35] <blkdg> thanks so muck TheSheep i didn't know anout that!
[20:37] <blkdg> thanks again
[20:39] <deadmike> true
[20:39] <deadmike> thanks for answerin my question haha
[20:43] <deadmike> just stopped by to let y'all know that i am installing xubuntu tonight
[20:43] <deadmike> was considering giving pclinuxos a go....
[21:37] <yerbestfrend> in #hackers
[21:37] <yerbestfrend> what
[21:39] <Pres-Gas> *sigh*
[21:39] <Sysi> well, i get some weird spam to my status-window
[21:39] <cody-somerville> hes banned from the network now
[21:40] <Pres-Gas> Keeps assuming different names...is it ip/hosts too, cody-somerville?
[21:40]  * Pres-Gas reads logs
[21:40] <cody-somerville> Presumably.
[21:41] <Pres-Gas> hmmmmm, maybe it is the same...but too bad it is from an edu