[00:12] Riddell: llunak has a fix for the no text in menus bug (it is something that has to be fixed in next kde but he said that it won't be backported) ... don't know how hard it would be to backport...but beyond that... the massive file picker bug can finally be closed :) [00:13] awooga [00:16] shtylman: got any pointers to the fix? [00:17] Riddell: just shot you an email with some details [00:19] im guessing those are the svn revision numbers...damn they are up there... [00:20] bout time they move to git :) [00:20] Qt has an awful record of saying bugs are fixed when they really aren't. :/ I can count at least three things that should be fixed by now but are not. [00:20] haha [00:20] (waves hand) these are not the bugs you seek [00:20] the bugs you seek are elsewhere [00:22] bug 448049, bug 446539 and the bug where cashew items are visible even when they shouldn't be are all still there, even though they should be fixed in Qt :/ [00:22] Launchpad bug 448049 in kde4libs "kdeinit4 crashed with SIGSEGV in QSortFilterProxyModelPrivate::proxy_to_source()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/448049 [00:22] Launchpad bug 446539 in kdebase "dolphin crashed with SIGSEGV in dbus_timeout_handle()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/446539 [00:22] the first two should have been fixed in 4.5.2, the last should have been fixed in 4.5.3. All of them are still around in 4.5.3 [00:23] bummer [00:23] * shtylman got http://alwaysinnovating.com/home/index.htm a few days ago... still working on getting ubuntu on it :) [00:41] kde rev 1034808 [00:41] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=1034808&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 1034808 | Plugins really shouldn't use dynamic_cast, it breaks without RTLD_GLOBAL and especially with plugins that is quite likely to ... [00:41] ^OOo fix [00:42] I'd rather have a busted OOo than potential regressions in KDE, tho [00:42] * yuriy wants the powerdevil dialog back. the notification is utterly useless :( [00:47] shtylman: How is it? Work well? Why can't you get (K)ubuntu on it? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [01:08] ryanakca: its got some rough edges... [01:08] I don't think it is a good final product hardware wise [01:08] software that it ships with sucks and has a while to go [01:08] I really wanna try to see how plasma runs on it but it might bog it down too much [01:12] * ryanakca nods... it looks cool though :) [01:12] ryanakca: yea..its fun to play around with [01:12] I will have it with me at uds [01:13] shtylman: I don't think I'll be going to UDS though... :/ [01:13] :( [01:13] how come? [01:22] Sime: compiling python-kde3 with sip 4.9 goes boom http://paste.ubuntu.com/292729/ [01:22] JontheEchidna: teacooker http://tinyurl.com/yk7fyn5 [01:22] Sime: any thoughts on quick fixes or is it time to geet rid of python-kde3? [01:22] * JontheEchidna thinks this is a good excuse to get rid of python-kde3 [01:22] it only has one rdepend [01:24] lex79: awesome, very thorough [01:24] avogadro goes boom too http://paste.ubuntu.com/292730/ I wonder if anyone uses that [01:29] lex79: a .directory file from dolphin snuck in, but other than that, it's perfect [01:29] shtylman: None of my parents can get time off work and seeing that I'm a minor, they won't let me out of the country alone... however, I'll be home free for UDS-11.04 (a year from now) :) [01:29] s/None/Neither/ [01:30] Riddell: perhaps we could disable python support [01:30] for avogadro, anyways [01:30] damn dolphin ! [01:30] ryanakca: ahh gotcha... makes sense...bummer though [01:30] * JontheEchidna sets dolphin to remember settings for all files [01:30] er, folders. [01:31] good suggestion [01:31] I find the default way to be quite annoying and confusing [01:32] JontheEchidna: I don't know if it's optional [01:32] Riddell: cmakelists.txt says it is, from my understanding [01:32] option(ENABLE_PYTHON "Enable python support" ON) [01:32] -DENABLE_PYTHON=OFF maybe [01:34] let me try [01:36] Riddell: at least 1973 people have avogadro installed according to popcon (rank 13674 on http://popcon.ubuntu.com/by_inst ), 1783 use it regularly. [01:37] sometimes I need to press F5 to see new files in dolphin, this happens when extract archive for example.. JontheEchidna happens to you? [01:37] Riddell: sorry, only 67 use it regularly, but 1783 upgraded it recently [01:37] lex79: I confirm...it doesn't always refresh [01:37] lex79: yeah, apparently it's a regression with the 2.6.31 linux kernel and inotify [01:38] us == fscked (ha ha, filesystem humor) in that regard [01:38] it's very annoying :( [01:39] ryanakca: so if the 1783 don't use it why did they upgrade it? [01:39] Riddell: I'm guessing people went "apt-get dist-upgrade" and it was in the list of things to upgrade, so they upgraded it? And the other 190 might just not upgrade their systems? [01:40] * ryanakca shrugs [02:16] well python-kde4 works but only if I convert it to using python-support [02:16] this is a good thing to do, just not two days before final freeze [02:16] also plasma python stuff will need converting too [02:33] * JontheEchidna decides to get his two -workspace patches in sooner rather than later, in that case [02:33] not that there's much room for later :P [02:34] So do we have the Ayatana "we'll let you know eventually" update feature somehow or is kpackagekit just unreliable that way too? [02:35] why am I getting dummy popups, 4 of them, everytime I get a message or something from kopete? === NCommander is now known as NC|G1 [02:36] This is the first notification "A Dummy Button" [02:36] This is the second notification "A Dummy Button" [02:36] shit, I am getting that with every notification [02:37] ScottK: mostly broken I think. It does check for updates as it should, it's just not notifying [02:37] this used to work though... :( [02:37] JontheEchidna: OK. That I can take better than we shot ourselves in the foot on purpose (well we did with kpackagekit, but I mean again) === NC|G1 is now known as NCommander [02:37] Well I have one now. [02:38] It just doesn't seem to come reliably [02:38] hmm, I didn't get one this morning, and I know I had updates. and kpackagekitsmarticon said it was checking for updates [02:38] just no popup\ [02:44] JontheEchidna: what -workspace patches? [02:45] Riddell: I have one for making the default System Settings window fit on smaller screens and one that fixes KDM using plastique all the time. The latter requires some kdelibs changes and both are from 4.3 branch [02:45] http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1033882 [02:45] http://websvn.kde.org/?view=revision&revision=1032941 [02:45] JontheEchidna: ok I just committed a change to -workspace so I'll hold off on upload until you do your thing [02:45] I'll probably be asleep so feel free to get ScottK or whoever to upload [02:46] kk, I'll need kde4libs sponsored before -workspace can build anyways. So this could probably wait until tomorrow even if need be [02:46] * ScottK is totally overwhelmed anyway. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [06:32] question. I'm trying to track one change we can't find. how do I install one package at a time? [06:42] Note: Answered on #kubuntu-netbook [06:43] ScottK: Thanks [07:41] Hey guys, do you know if 9.04 actually comes with DSL(pppoe) support OOTB? Yesterday I needed a Livecd that is capable of providing dsl networking in live environiment and I was unable to establish even LAN connection. DSL is greyed out as well. Im speaking of Kubuntu 9.04 [07:44] Zzzzzzzz [08:54] Riddell, nixternal: I think we should pick up recent improvement to gdm upstart config and add it to kdm: [08:54] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/gdm/2.28.0-0ubuntu17 [09:30] Hi everybody. [09:31] Riddell: I set up a chroot environment. [09:53] May I help somebody with something??? [10:06] May I help somebody with something??? [10:07] <_StefanS_> PedroLeKoi: ask Riddell [10:07] _StefanS_ I did that already... [10:07] _StefanS_ He didn't reply so. [10:07] _StefanS_ I try again. [10:08] <_StefanS_> PedroLeKoi: did you check the todo lit? [10:08] <_StefanS_> list? [10:08] <_StefanS_> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo [10:08] <_StefanS_> else write the mailinglist. [10:08] <_StefanS_> gotta run. [10:08] _StefanS_ I didn't even know, that there is a ToDo list. [10:08] _StefanS_ Thank you very much. [10:11] Riddell: Is there any easy timeconsuming task you can assign to me? [10:47] Not sure if it's only me, but it's impossible to create bootable USB keys now. unetbootin hangs when installing the bootloader (probably mcopy), and usb-creator-kde crashes with "no module named kdecore". [10:51] kjeldahl: that'll be the python-qt changes [10:52] Riddell: Ok thanks. Good to know. Any idea why mcopy is hanging when writing the bootloader (called by unetbootin)? [10:52] I don't even know what that is [10:53] Lure: go for it === dpm_ is now known as dpm [10:53] PedroLeKoi: got that chroot? [10:53] It's another "make a bootable usb key" utility. Guess I'll wait for the python-qt fixes then. [10:53] Riddell: will look into this tonight - at work now [10:53] Riddell: Yes. [10:58] PedroLeKoi: could you install kubuntu-desktop in it? [11:01] Riddell: That's a good question; I am not familiar with the procedure you are talking about. What I did do is: I downloaded certain files from archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/hardy. [11:01] Riddell: What am I supposed to do next? [11:02] PedroLeKoi: are you inside the chroot? [11:02] Riddell: I can log into chroot using a terminal window typing: chroot /home/hardy [11:03] PedroLeKoi: ok, from outside the chroot we need some mount commands first.. [11:03] mount -t none -o bind /tmp /home/hardy/tmp [11:03] mount -t none -o bind /proc /home/hardy/proc [11:03] mount -t none -o bind /dev /home/hardy/dev [11:03] xhost + [11:03] those mount commands will need sudo of course [11:03] then sudo chroot /home/hardy [11:03] inside the chroot.. [11:04] apt-get update [11:04] apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [11:22] kjeldahl: what version of python-kde4 do you have installed? [11:23] Riddell: 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu2 [11:23] I think. [11:24] Riddell: Sorry for the delay. I just startet the installation procedure. I guess this is going to take a while - maybe an hour. I call you after the installation is done, right? [11:24] PedroLeKoi: yes, thanks [11:25] kjeldahl: and usb-creator-kde doesn't run? [11:26] JontheEchidna: was there a change you were making to kde4libs ? [11:43] Riddell: Correct- error is http://pastebin.com/m6aa26734 [11:44] But usb-creator-gtk works fine... [11:45] kjeldahl: oh I know, it'll need kdebase-workspace before that gets fixed [11:46] Riddell: I'm glad you know. :-) [11:48] and that's waiting on JontheEchidna's kde4libs update === PedroLeKoi1 is now known as PedroLeKoi [12:01] is the beta koffice from PPA working for anyone? I just upgraded to it and I'm getting this error "kword: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkowidgets.so.6: undefined symbol: _ZNK16QAbstractSpinBox16inputMethodQueryEN2Qt16InputMethodQueryE" [12:02] the apps won't start :/ [12:02] gribelu: which PPA? [12:03] this one https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental [12:03] I'm on karmic amd64 btw [12:09] gribelu: I've not looked at it yet but neversfelde said it was broken so I wouldn't expect it to work [12:09] right [12:09] well, let me know if you can't reproduce and I'll help out.. [12:10] reproduce the bug that is [12:10] gribelu: works for me, though it has a few packaging errors. but that didnt happen for me... [12:10] gribelu: tell me what happened when you installed? [12:11] jussi01: are you on 64bit as well? [12:11] gribelu: not here, but I installed at home on 64 bit [12:11] beats me then [12:11] I can't start any koffice app [12:11] gribelu: have you still got your install log/terminal open=? [12:12] jussi01: i have my logs.. but I also had to force install of the packages [12:12] the .so file in question is part of koffice-libs-kde4 [12:12] gribelu: and after the force install, did you then run sudo apt-get install -f ? [12:12] i reinstalled that.. didn't help [12:13] I just did that, but it did nothing [12:13] hrrr [12:13] installation went fine.. [12:13] curious. [12:14] jussi01: how do I get a list of koffice packages? [12:14] maybe if I reinstall them all [12:14] apt-cache search koffice [12:14] although "undefined symbol" sounds like a compilation problem [12:17] gribelu: or like some library being older on the system than on the one used to build the code. [12:17] Maybe some depenedency is outdated in the control file? [12:18] who knows [12:18] I'm trying to purge and reinstall [12:20] you may not have all of the qt 4.6 packages installed [12:20] (and installing them may cause other problems, they're not well tested) [12:20] Riddell: I reverted to 4.5.x because I had some plasma issues [12:20] should I install 4.6? [12:20] ah [12:20] hmm [12:21] that could be it.. [12:21] that koffice build will need 4.6, but right it'll cause other issues [12:22] so I'm stuck :) [12:22] at least we know koffice isn't broken [12:43] Riddell: It's done. Any further instructions? [12:44] PedroLeKoi: ok now we need to do the upgrade [12:44] PedroLeKoi: first enable -proosed .. [12:44] echo "deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-proposed main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list [12:44] apt-get update [12:44] apt-get install adept [12:50] run adept --dist-upgrade-lts and click the upgrade (two up pointing arrow icon) [12:54] Riddell: I don't know: is this a valid 'enable' command >> enable -proosed < Riddell: I downloaded and installed adept but the command 'adept --dist-upgrade-lts' doesn't work [13:20] PedroLeKoi: paste bin this.. [13:20] apt-cache policy adept [13:21] Riddell: I found out that I can start the GUI of adept with 'adept_manager'. And that is exactly what I did. [13:21] PedroLeKoi: how about.. [13:21] adept_manager --dist-upgrade-lts [13:22] Riddell: I had to 'Fetch Updates' than... [13:22] Riddell: After that he activated the Button 'Version Upgrade'. [13:22] Riddell: That is what you want me to do, isn't it? The Version Update? [13:23] Riddell: I started the procedure and am now supposed to confirm that I really like to update. [13:24] right [13:24] PedroLeKoi: does it say "9.10" at the top of the update window? [13:24] Riddell: System is downloading files to upgrade system from 8.04.2 to 9.04. [13:24] Riddell: Is it maybe an inbetween step. [13:25] no, that's not what we want [13:25] PedroLeKoi: close the upgrade window [13:26] Riddell: I did. [13:26] Riddell: kde4libs pushed to bzr, testbuilding a last time in my ppa [13:27] PedroLeKoi: pastebin [13:27] apt-cache policy adept [13:28] Riddell: pastebin? What is that supposed to mean? [13:28] Riddell: We're making some progress on the netbook application launcher problem by means of doing a partial 4.3.1->4.3.2 upgrade until the problem appears. It's narrowed down to one of kde-window-manager kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-data kdebase-runtime-data-common kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kdelibs-bin kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data libkdecorations4 libkwineffects1 libplasma3 libxml2 when we ran out of energy last night. [13:29] PedroLeKoi: paste the output into the website paste.ubuntu.com [13:30] ScottK: that's three source packages so it should be possible to look at what changes have happened to them recently [13:30] ScottK: sorry I havn't been able to help thus far, too many other things on my todo [13:30] Riddell: Yes. They were all installed at one go, so we ought to be able to narrow it down further. [13:30] Understand. [13:31] This is a big enough bug that I'm not worried about it for tomorrow's freeze. [13:31] I'm currently waiting for the guineau pig <<< tester to reappear on IRC. [13:31] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/293100 [13:33] PedroLeKoi: and you ran adept with adept_manager --dist-upgrade-lts ? [13:37] Riddell: No, I didn't. Reason for this: adept_manager tells me it doesn't know option '--dist-upgrade-lts' [13:38] PedroLeKoi: please pastebin the output of adept_manager --help [13:38] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/293107 [13:40] PedroLeKoi: hum, well you have the right version of adept but it's not offering the right option, so we have a problem [13:40] PedroLeKoi: thanks for testing, we'll need to fix that [13:41] Riddell: O.k. I think I am off for today. I have to change the tires of my girlfriends car - you know... [13:41] Bye everybody. [13:42] See you soon. [14:02] https://edge.launchpad.net/~echidnaman/+archive/ppa/+build/1291779 blargh [14:02] 1 hour wait [14:08] mm, pykde is busted [14:09] ImportError: No module named kdecore [14:14] agateau: Did you ever get a chance to look at the focus stealing prevention issue with Quassel and MI? They are going to release 0.5 this afternoon, so if you have a patch, we might still get it in. [14:15] ScottK: no, but I can look [14:15] I thought it was working now, didn't they change anything wrt to this? [14:18] agateau: MI is working now. The issue is bug 422062. [14:18] Launchpad bug 422062 in quassel "window is not brought to front" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422062 [14:18] JontheEchidna: yes it's waiting on kdebase-workspace which is waiting on you [14:19] Riddell: kdebase-workspace is waiting on kde4libs, which has a one hour wait in my ppa [14:20] time to crank the handle faster on the ppa machine! [14:20] Would someone please ping me in a few seconds. [14:20] I'm uploading it to ninjas to hopefully make things go faster [14:20] ScottK: sure [14:20] Hmm. [14:20] It may be fixed. Let's try something else. [14:21] Please ping me again .... [14:22] ScottK: ok [14:22] One more time please. [14:23] ScottK: ping [14:23] agateau: Bug still needs fixing. [14:24] ScottK: I can easily put together a KDE dependent fix [14:24] a pure Qt one would be more difficult I think [14:24] agateau: I think it's only an issue in KDE since it's KDE's focus stealing prevention that's the problem. [14:25] agateau: If upstream doesn't want a KDE specific fix, we can always add it ourselves. [14:25] Sput: ^^^ [14:25] ScottK: ok, let me test what I just wrote and I'll send a patch [14:25] Maybe one more fix for 0.5 .... [14:25] Thanks. [14:26] agateau: Quassel's normal click on the icon to focus the last highlight functionality is affected by this too, so it'll be a good fix for upstream even without MI. [14:27] ScottK: yes [14:28] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/1291807 <- much better than an hour [14:33] JontheEchidna: ninjas stealth wins! [14:33] * Riddell uploads kdebase-runtime [14:37] ScottK: Sput: http://pastebin.com/f272418f8 [14:39] agateau: Looks simple enough. [14:39] ScottK: KDE API makes everything simpler :) [14:49] gah, the ninjas build isn't starting [14:50] * ScottK is just pbuildering locally [14:50] pbuilding on my machine would take 4 hours for kde4libs [14:56] Riddell: could you sponsor lex's qtcurve packages from ninjas? [14:58] ok [15:01] Riddell: oh, wasn't there some config files moving around? did we figure that out? [15:02] there was, I'm not sure we did [15:02] mm [15:02] I see qt 4.6 beta is out [15:28] Would someone please give me a ping. [15:28] ScottK: ponk [15:28] Nice. Again please. [15:29] ScottK: pingish [15:29] Thanks. [15:29] One more time please. [15:29] ScottK: You're getting faster... [15:29] Thanks. === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:30] Sput: agateau's patch works. [15:33] Riddell: I am back again. Do you have something to do for me? [15:35] Qt has compiled on ARM and nothing else! [15:35] how is that even possible [15:35] ha [15:36] Riddell: I'm testbuilding kde4libs locally, and while it hasn't finished it's gotten past the parts that I've patched without failing [15:36] PedroLeKoi: I need the microblog applet tested and if you have a printer system-config-printer-kde would be good to test too [15:37] Riddell: python is busted in karmic w/ latest updates, I can tell you that right now [15:37] JontheEchidna: groovy, we could maybe risk just uploading it [15:37] Riddell: No printer system for the next 7 days. [15:38] Riddell: Microblog Applett - o.k. Do I need a twitter account for working with this applett? [15:38] Riddell: system-config-printer-kde fails with: ImportError: No module named kdecore [15:38] jockey-kde does too [15:38] PedroLeKoi: yes [15:39] JontheEchidna: probably rm -r /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/PyQt will help that [15:40] Riddell: Than that is the next thing I am going to do. Create an account on twitter... Can you tell me what I have to do with that thing while I am going to create a twitter account. [15:40] JontheEchidna: no rm -r /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/PyKDE4 [15:40] was about to say ;-) [15:40] PedroLeKoi: just get it successfully posting to twitter [15:41] Riddell: All right. [15:41] Riddell: works, we may want to automate that [15:41] anyone with a dualscreen setup round? (no xinerama) [15:43] JontheEchidna: it'll go when the kdebase-workspace build happens [15:45] Riddell: what about the case of people using pykde apps without kdebase-workspace? [15:46] JontheEchidna: only plasmoid use kdebase-workspace, most apps don't, but pykde won't load while that directory exists [15:47] pykde now uses python-support [15:49] if we make the next kdebase-workspace update do the removal of the old directory, then if somebody doesn't have kdebase-workspace installed will still have broken pykde apps [15:49] unless I'm missing something [15:50] is that arrow that i get when i switch desktops a backport? [15:51] couldn't find it in the kde 4.3.2 changelog [15:52] JontheEchidna: if they don't have kdebase-workspace then the directory won't be there, it only exists because of kdebase-workspace [15:53] failsafe works with x-terminal-emulator pointed towards xterm [15:53] freinhard: it's a setting Tonio_ turned on somewhere, it has mixed popularity [15:53] perhaps we should let failsafe just point at xterm ? [15:53] Or it doesn't make a difference wih a clean install? [15:53] I get the KDE splash screen on failsafe [15:54] Riddell: ah, ok. that'd be what I missed :) [15:54] Daskreech: hmm, we don't have xterm on a clean install [15:54] Riddell: Well does a failsafe login work then? [15:55] freinhard: this setting has always been there.... I just activated it since I saw people complaning gnome had this with compiz, and they couldn't find it [15:55] freinhard: some people like, some people don't.... [15:56] Tonio_: how do i get rid of it, i guess that's breaking my multi-screen setup [15:56] Daskreech: presumably not, based on you as the only tester [15:56] Riddell: debian/changelog can close bug 451105 [15:56] Bug 451105 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/451105 is private [15:56] Riddell: We don't? apt-cache says it is, if I ready it correctly? [15:56] freinhard: hu ? if that's the case, we should consider removing [15:56] ScottK: maybe we do, it keeps changing [15:56] lemme find the setting [15:57] Tonio_: first need to know where to turn it off and then test it. [15:57] sure [15:57] Might be worth a mention in the release notes. [15:58] JontheEchidna: I'll upload kde4libs and kdebase-workspace now [15:58] "Here's this cool new feature, screenshots, oh, btw, if you don't like it, here's how you turn it off" [15:59] freinhard: window property -> focus -> popup desktop name on desktop switch [15:59] Riddell: k, cool [15:59] freinhard: so stupid I agree :) it should be in the pager settings [16:00] freinhard: lemme know if that's the bug, then I see no reason to keep this activated [16:00] Riddell: Are you sure we want systemsettings in catagory settings and not system? [16:00] ScottK: I'm leaving to china saturday and have tremendous amount of work till then.... [16:01] Work or vacation? [16:01] ScottK: I'm affraid I have no time to review KNE default settings till then [16:01] ScottK: work [16:01] OK. Then it is what it is. [16:01] till I'm back I mean [16:01] It'll be too late by then. [16:01] ScottK: I know :) [16:02] ScottK: I should have more time by lucid dev cycle, but canada + china, that close, doesn't help [16:03] ScottK: last I heard we didn't want it in the apps menu at all, it's already in two places in kickoff [16:03] two other places [16:03] Riddell: I see it in favorites and settings is all? [16:04] also the computer tab^ [16:04] right [16:04] Right. [16:04] No computer tab in classic kickoff, so I didn't see that one. [16:05] oh yeah, that's why they put it in the menu in the first place [16:05] So since it needs to be in the menu, i don't see why it got moved to settings from system. [16:05] I thought we were trying to get rid of settings [16:06] Tonio_: yes, that's it [16:06] freinhard: ouch.... [16:07] wht does this cause ? [16:07] Tonio_: sry, was the "show window list" option [16:07] popup was off [16:07] broken configuration dialog? [16:08] the config dialog is broken too, the setting can be enabled while the checkbox is unchecked [16:08] Riddell: It seems to me that the app is working fine. I post something using the app, update my twitter page: Message is visible. The only thing I am missing is the possibility to delete certain messages the app copied back from the twitter page? [16:08] so the show window list causes the bug ? [16:08] Tonio_: toggling the "show window list" just made it save the unchecked state of the desktop switch popup [16:08] maybe popup was activated but not shown in the list, and hitting apply cleared it [16:08] i'll check that [16:09] JontheEchidna: I don't get what does this setting do [16:09] Tonio_: basically the KCM doesn't read the existing settings or something, so the desktop switch animation appears unchecked int he dialog [16:09] i'm confused. does work now. [16:09] * freinhard reboots [16:09] so changing any other setting makes it save the unchecked state and disables the popup feature [16:10] PedroLeKoi: great. now I need it tested with no settings. killall plasma-desktop; rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appl*; plasma-desktop and add it [16:10] JontheEchidna: by default ? [16:10] JontheEchidna: I never had a problem with that [16:10] ? [16:13] Are we shipping with PulseAudio? [16:13] Daskreech: Not by default (only the lib due to build-depends, but it doesn't do anything without the app) [16:13] could someone please review my changes to fix the context menu of the codecs install tray icon: https://code.launchpad.net/~debfx/update-notifier-kde/codecs-context-menu/+merge/13341 [16:14] Riddell: No need to add. It's already there after command 'plasma-desktop' was executed. [16:15] PedroLeKoi: does it show the kubuntu feed and does it let you configure your own feed? [16:15] Riddell: But I need to set it up, don't I? I have to change the 'address of the service', because it's not set to twitter by default. [16:17] debfx: ooh looks good, thanks [16:17] debfx: I'd like to turn that into a persistent notification same as the packagekit update one but it's too late for karmic [16:17] PedroLeKoi: yes you will need to do that [16:18] Riddell: It shows the Kubuntu feed (to give one example: http://2tu.us/vki by chogoK). After set up twitter as service it immediatly displayed the messegas I posted before... [16:19] hum I get "No handlers could be found for logger "bzr"" on one of my computers... [16:19] anyone know what does this mean ? I couldn't get any good information googling [16:20] anybody using dropbox in KDE? someone is getting me to try it and looks like there's only a nautilus extension [16:24] PedroLeKoi: great, so that's all working [16:24] PedroLeKoi: we could do with failsafe mode being tested [16:25] Tonio_: context would help [16:25] yuriy: never heard of it [16:26] yuriy: I think jjesse uses it. === flacoste_afk is now known as flacoste [16:27] Riddell: any bzr command outputs this, only on this computer [16:27] Riddell: even if I clean my .bzr [16:27] Riddell: and commands do work :) [16:27] Riddell: weird, I agree :) [16:28] Tonio_: I'd ask in #bzr then [16:28] kk [16:29] ScottK: not a bad idea indeed :) [16:32] Riddell: Please give me further instructions which will enable me to test the failsafe mode. === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [16:35]