[00:12] ubox: Is it just firefox that has the problem? [00:12] i'm not sure, let me try konqueror [00:14] yea konqueror works fine, it's just firefox 3.5 [00:14] maybe it will be fixed soon [00:16] anyone know the name of the Device Notifier applet? [00:17] Probably some package update knocked out the application preferences. [00:38] hi all [00:41] hi i just updated and any thing past the log in screen doesn't show [00:41] #any iders [00:41] lol [00:43] hi ubuntu01 [00:45] yo [00:45] yooo00 [00:49] is thare any one free that could give me a hand [00:50] plez [00:53] kenny1: what did you update? [00:54] kde 4.3.1 or .2 [00:55] n #xubuntu [00:57] kenny1: try rebooting into recovery mode and at the prompt, select "netroot" to get an internet connection (wired) then exit (typing "exit" and press enter). Then select "Fix broken packages" [00:57] ok === fstock is now known as senor [00:59] does anyone know how to use eclipse?? xD [00:59] 0 [01:00] digitalhead how do i select netroot its a comand line [01:03] kenny1: it didn't come up with a menu? [01:03] no [01:05] it says not using locking for read onley lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock [01:05] unable to wright /vare/cashe/apt/ [01:06] the package lists or status file could not be parsed [01:06] or opened === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [01:07] sounds like the install didn't go well. Try running apt-get update [01:08] same [01:10] kenny1: are you root right now? [01:11] yes [01:12] kenny1: this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3889231&postcount=2 [01:14] it says read only file system [01:15] kenny1: then you're not in recovery mode. Do you have multiple kernels installed from updates? [01:16] yep sould i try another [01:17] if your most recent was installed before this happened and the system has worked since, it should be used [01:20] yep still read onley [01:30] kenny1: It's possible that your filesystem has been corrupted. Try editing or creating something in your home directory. "nano test.txt" Ctrl+O to save it, Ctrl+X to close === starcraftman is now known as WikiNinja [01:34] digitalhead yep it says read onley [01:38] kenny1: PM me === WikiNinja is now known as starcraftman [02:08] my sound comes from /dev/dsp1 instead of /dev/dsp ... how can i set up firefox to use this... i see firefoxrc and FIREFOX_DSP but i is there another setting cause i don't think FIREFOX_DSP takes /dev/dsp1 as an argument? [02:53] Anybody able to help me with a RTL8110s Realtek network card? === dschulz is now known as Broccoli === Broccoli is now known as dschulz === J``Aglpe is now known as LjL [03:11] is kubu too heavy for a 2.0ghz and 512rdram? [03:13] anyone running it on similar low specs? [03:14] I run kubuntu on a 1.3GHz and 512KB RAM laptop [03:15] whats it like... [03:16] is it fast [03:16] it's ok for me, also I have desktop effects, like the cube and others [03:17] i am on ubun now on a super old 400mgz machine and its ok but that lag time i drivin me nuts, so i got a used one comin in to mess with debating between xubu and kubu [03:18] heard kubu has a nice windows like environment [03:18] only had buntu now for about 2 weeks [03:20] when i type words sometimes i have too wait for the letters on screen to catch up [03:22] that could be the disk access that loads the system [03:22] hmmm as in some kind of hardware prob? or just as in 11 year old hardware [03:22] sometimes it really fast [03:23] the old hardware... [03:24] you could try xubuntu [03:24] yeah...even being a certified non tech i figured that, am hping a 1.5 runs 3-4 times faster, but really don't know if the math works that way [03:24] it's not as good-looking as kubuntu, but it works on old hardware [03:24] hping=hoping [03:25] which one are you refering too james? [03:25] oh i see noxubu [03:25] xubu you meant [03:26] i have been reading alot of stuff in here and on the net but really don't understand why xubu or xfce is faster [03:27] yes, xubuntu [03:27] i mean i know if a lot of stuff is disabled boot up is faster, but does that still make it run faster after boot up? [03:29] yes, for example, you don't need a mysql database, so you can disable it (if you installed the mysqlserver) [03:30] so if i got a list of all the stuff i don't use or need i could disable it on this computer and get the same speed [03:30] what compositor do you think would run the fastest on a netbook xrender opengl compiz [03:32] but most of the programs are daemons that doesn't load your system to make it slow [03:33] so what would you sugjest i do to help speed things up a bit [03:33] i turned off almost all the effects [03:33] it doesnt run really slow just slow enough to get annoying [03:33] it depends on the RAM of the laptop [03:34] i have opengl and runs ok [03:34] how can i find that out [03:38] how bad is 3minutes 30 seconds to go from completely off, thru log in, and all they way to the internet [03:48] with that time you can go for a cup of coffee [04:04] okay [04:28] is there an app which can wrap a browser session, including cookies etc? So I can have two icons for firefox on my desktop, and running either will result in it using a different cookie jar ? [04:34] i downloaded compiz-kde how do i enablel compiz after installin compiz-kde file [04:37] webbb82, what version of kde r u running? [04:39] 4.3.2 === JulCes_ is now known as JulCes [04:48] Go to system settings>default application>window manager>select compiz in the dropbox. And then promptly switch back a few minutes later after you realize kwin integrates better. :-) [04:58] Im on Jaunty. thumbdrives used to pop up a window when inserted, but now dont and arnt in /etc/media/ how do i get to the contents of the thumbdrive? [04:59] oops, they arnt in /media/ [05:03] ussher_: I have that problem too [05:03] ussher_: I think it is a bug in the device notifier [05:04] ussher_: wait, I'm on karmic [05:04] ussher_: worked for me in jaunty [05:04] I thought it was a problem with the thumbdrive, but ive tried with a couple now, and one that used to work. [05:05] ussher_: have you upgraded to kde 4.3 on jaunty? [05:05] ive tried a few fixes from bug reports but no solution yet. [05:06] i could try that. im on 4..2 right now [05:06] the current page im looking at is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB and if that doesnt work, ill try the upgrade === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [05:56] anyone see any REAL good reason to go from a working Kubuntu 9.04 w/kde 4.3.2 to 9.10 when it comes out? or anyone here make the switch even though its NOT final yet, and realize its a great idea when the final comes out? [05:58] anyone? [05:58] is creating an orm model really as easy as it looks? [05:58] whoops wrong channel [06:03] I am not able to get login screen in my ubuntu....though I am able to do remote login [06:03] what should I do? === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [06:06] anyone see any REAL good reason to go from a working Kubuntu 9.04 w/kde 4.3.2 to 9.10 when it comes out? or anyone here make the switch even though its NOT final yet, and realize its a great idea when the final comes out? anyone see any REAL good reason to go from a working Kubuntu 9.04 w/kde 4.3.2 to 9.10 when it comes out? or anyone here make the switch even though its NOT final yet, and realize its a great idea when the final com [06:06] es out? anyone see any REAL good reason to go from a working Kubuntu 9.04 w/kde 4.3.2 to 9.10 when it comes out? or anyone here make the switch even though its NOT final yet, and realize its a great idea when the final comes out? [06:06] oops [06:44] hi [06:55] Hello texnofobix. [06:57] i am trying out how to stop my top bar from being stuck in edit mode [06:57] i'm getting the newest updates (this is the netbook beta) [07:01] You have a top panel? [07:01] yeah [07:02] Applications Newspaper and etc [07:02] texnofobix: What version? [07:03] .whois texnofobix [07:04] i'm connected via NX client to another kde session [07:04] kde 4.3.2 [07:04] i think [07:04] let me double check [07:04] make that 4.3.1 [07:05] i've got some updates that are installing now [07:11] texnofobix: please ask in #ubuntu+1 for Karmic related issues [07:12] ah ok [07:12] will do, thanks Mamarok [07:17] texnofobix: you are welcome :) [07:19] thumper: i did the upgrade, it didnt help. but this fixed the issues with the USB thumbdrive http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=23740#p34471 [07:19] thumper: added that "new device widgit" and all is good [07:20] Thanks [07:36] Hey guys, do you know if 9.04 actually comes with DSL(pppoe) support OOTB? [07:37] Yesterday I needed a Livecd that is capable of providing dsl networking in live environiment and I was unable to establish even LAN connection. DSL is greyed out as well. [07:38] Im speaking of Kubuntu 9.04. === root is now known as Guest98195 [07:44] Zzzzzzzz [08:15] hi, I've just upgrated to 9.10 and I got the message "NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your", package nvidia-glx-185 is installed [08:16] I had to switch nvidia->nv in xorg.conf [08:23] hi guys [08:23] I don't see any devices in pulseaudio [08:23] is there anything else I need to configure/install? [08:23] alsa works fine [08:24] * using karmic === mu3en_ is now known as mu3en [08:42] thepianoguy: well, pulseaudio doesn't show devices, and you don't really need it unless you want to have network sound [08:42] hm... the new skype supports pulseaudio only [08:42] no support on oss and alsa anymore :/ [08:45] ah, then you have no other choice [08:45] please ask Karmic related questions in #ubuntu+1 [08:45] ok, thnx [08:54] who bipolar [08:55] wes_: do you have a question? [08:55] i didnt think anyone was awake [08:55] wes_: well, this is a support channel [08:56] how do i get a list of other channels? [08:56] I stalled windows7 after what I forgot was a hard shutdown. I just booted the kubuntu livecd to do the usual grub fix, except this time my main partition, /dev/sda5 is showing up as a 44G "Linux swap / Solaris" with the NC (not clean?) flag and I can't even try to forcemount it as ext3 (not even sure if it's ext3...) because it says it's already mounted [08:56] any ideas other than panicking and starting to look for my backup dvds? [08:57] wes_: what IRC client are you using and what channel are you looking for? [08:57] Konversation. I just intalled yesterday, so im still looking around, so i dont have a difinitive answer for the second part [08:58] wes_: well, then I can't answer you :) [08:58] switzch: boot the live CD in recovery mode, so it doesn't mount the partitions [08:59] Mamarok: the thing is they're not mounted as far as I can tell [09:00] Mamarok: /dev/sda5 isn't listed when I run 'mount' [09:00] what does cat /proc/mounts show ? [09:00] olafw: same as mount - I'll post it on a pastebin, sec [09:00] switzch: if it is markead as a swap aprtition of course you can't mount it [09:01] partition* [09:01] Mamarok: I tried to force it with -t ext3 [09:01] I don't think that helps, you probably need to check it for errors first [09:02] fsck complains about the partition being already mounted [09:02] * Mamarok had that once with an external ext3 HD [09:03] fdisk and /proc/mount at http://pastebin.com/m6f2d6b7c [09:04] Mamarok: I think I could tell fsck to go on regardless of the mounted status, but I'm a bit wary of running fsck.ext3 seeing as how I'm not entirely positively sure that the partition was ext3 - it might have been xfs [09:05] ah, that's a problem then [09:09] d [09:11] switzch: there seems to be a hole in the partition layout? That is sda5 doesn't fill sda4 [09:13] olafw: ah I just noticed that the fdisk -lu output is different from cfdisk's... [09:13] the size of sda5 also seems more appropriate for swap [09:13] yeah [09:13] thanks for making me notice [09:13] cfdisk was showing only sda5 and gave it 44G [09:14] could your missing fs be sitting in the hole ? [09:14] looks like the start of the swap is overlapping with the last bit of sda4 [09:14] sda4 is an extended partition [09:15] in the dos-style partition layout, an extended partition contains other partitions [09:15] ah ok [09:15] so having sda5 "inside" sda4 is normal [09:15] this is b/c the partition table in the disk label has only room for 4 entries... [09:17] you could use fdisk to create a partition that spans the "hole" [09:17] this affects the partition table, but not the contents of the hole itself. [09:17] is there a way to back up the partition table first, just in case? [09:17] then see if fsck _with_ the -n flag, finds an fs in there. [09:18] IIRC partition table would be the 1st block (or couple of blocks) of sda4 [09:18] for the extended partitions [09:18] so you can use dd to pull it off and put it back, but have to be very careful [09:19] so that dd doesn't write where it should skip [09:19] (by the way, it looks like what happened is that the windows7 installer created a new boot partition and then, because of the limit you mentionned, had to move stuff to an extended partition) [09:19] In practice, I've worked with just a printout of the partition table -- block units [09:19] Not sure what windows 7 did here [09:20] but if that is what it did, then there may be a problem, b/c that would make the lower bound of sda4 likely the original lower bound [09:21] The info on the printout is sufficient to recreate the layout with fdisk. [09:26] It _may_ be possible to run an fsck.ext3 -n on the /dev/sda4 device itself. [09:26] And see what it spits out. [09:33] olafw: "fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda4. Could this be a zero-length partition?" [09:33] olafw: guess I'll have to play with dd [09:33] looks like it [10:05] hi === vdiewald is now known as verendi === verendi is now known as verena === gordon is now known as Guest10673 === gordon is now known as Guest29439 === carlos is now known as _Hirs_ === jonathan_ is now known as Neremor === PedroLeKoi1 is now known as PedroLeKoi [12:04] hey i got some problems with konqueror.. flash doesnt work although its installed [12:04] videos load but dont play [12:04] on amd64 [12:08] I use karmic KDE 4.3.2 [12:08] also i use gdm for login manager, is there any way to put shutdown and restart in leave menu? === m4v_ is now known as k4v [12:22] how can i change the name of my computer under kubuntu ? [12:23] so it register into the dhcp serveur differently [12:24] why cant i use flash in konqueror? [12:25] nstar7: you can [12:25] ubsafder: look for the file /etc/HOSTNAME [12:26] i have it installed and it doesnt work.. videos dont play [12:26] they load and dont play [12:26] no controls [12:26] just black screen [12:26] nstar7: KDE and Kubuntu versions? [12:26] kde 4.3.2 / kubuntu 9.04 / amd64 [12:26] nstar7: how did you install flash? [12:27] konqueror asked me to install it [12:27] and i accepted [12:27] shockwave flash [12:28] was it installed with InstallPackage from Ubuntu packages? [12:28] no [12:28] i dont think so [12:28] then? [12:29] nstar7: close all Konqueror instances, and install "flashplugin-installer" package [12:30] EagleScreen: great /etc/hostname did it [12:36] EagleScreen: its installed already === sean is now known as Guest64097 [12:37] is Konqueror still not playing flash? === JakeSays is now known as JakeSays_sleepin [12:40] EagleScreen: some play, some dont.. i dont understand why this doesnt play [12:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0K_nWyxwqI [12:40] black screen no controls === gordon is now known as Guest24400 [12:42] Konqueror bug [12:42] :( [12:42] consider to use another browser [12:42] ok, then i tried to install firefox 3.5.. and i got a mess of packages .. it wante do to install firefox 3.0 too as dependency?! why? and instead of firefox 3.5 i got shiretoko? why is it called like that? [12:43] and it doestn appear anywhere in the kde menu [12:43] Arora 0.10.1 is working very well in Kuubntu 9.10 beta [12:43] shiretoko (firefox) is working well either [12:43] im doing a upgrade to 9.10 now [12:44] Arora has better kde integration? [12:44] yes [12:44] i dislike gtk shit [12:44] ok then im doing a upgrade to 9.10 from the alternate cd [12:44] Arora is built on Qt, the KDE graphics drawing libraries [12:44] thx bye [12:45] but Arora also is well integrated with any other Desktop: Gnome, Win32, etc.. [12:45] Kubuntu 9.10 has a special installer for Firefox, not sure about how good it is [12:46] EagleScreen: what do you use? [12:46] what kde [12:46] and kubuntu [12:46] in Kubuntu 9.10 i am using Arora 0.10.1 [12:48] is kubuntu 9.10 slightly faster in desktop and application overall responsiveness? [12:49] cause i'vr read that in 2.6.31 they changed some memory management heuristics and desktop interactivity is better [12:49] under high memory pressure [12:52] Firefox installer in 9.10 seems to be ok [12:58] hi, my pagedown key has stopped working, xev reports it as keycode 117 (keysym 0xff20, Multi_key) [12:59] any idea why it might have stopped? [12:59] I mean, where it might be set wrong? [13:00] check: KDE keyboard config, X server keyboard config, and console-setup keyboard config [13:01] and also check locale config [13:02] EagleScreen: yeah, reloading with "setxkbmap us" makes it work again, but temporarily, so it is the keyboard config, I'll just have another look [13:03] <_lmilano_> Hi [13:03] <_lmilano_> Any Kubuntu developer around? [13:04] <_lmilano_> (I don;t need help, but I have an idea for a blueprint, I wanted to check if it makes sense) [13:07] EagleScreen: hrmm... I need keyboard layouts on, because I use the compose key, but that seems to always screw up the pgdn key. any ideas? [13:22] bonjour tout le monde, j'ai une imprimante Lexmark de type x2670 (serie x2600). j'ai installer les drivers nécéssaires mais mon ordinateur ne semble toujours pas détecter l'imprimante. Quelqu'un pourrais m'aider ? [13:36] Hi [13:37] hi [13:38] I am looking for a svn GUI client. I have tested many but I can not find the feature I need. I'd like the possibility to make "patch" like it is possible in tortoise SVN cient (but for windows) [13:38] i have a Lexmark printer, an x2670 (x2600 series) . I downloaded the drivers from thier web site but my pc still wont detect it. Can anyone help ? [13:40] By "patch", I mean : show log then select 2 different revision then "compare revision". This give a list of all files modified, added, deleted. Then one can select files and export them to a specific directory to do a patch. [13:41] Anyone could help on this please ? [13:47] aiuto doppio monitor in karmic [13:49] buna ziua [13:49] hello [13:50] help me double monitor [13:59] Hiyas all [14:11] Eh, I just installed kubuntu from ubuntu, and it needs a password to log in, my Ubuntu account doesn't work :S [14:15] Escriba el texto aquí.... [14:15] hola!!! [14:15] Buenos días!!! [14:16] Esto es un canal en español cierto? [14:16] !es | Sadly [14:16] Sadly: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. === william is now known as Guest55673 === garm_ is now known as garm [14:28] hi [14:29] hi === JakeSays_sleepin is now known as JakeSays === zerofebel is now known as zerofebel_ === zerofebel_ is now known as zerofebel [14:35] bonjour tout le monde [14:35] je viens de passer sour kde apres un gros moment sous gnome [14:35] mais j'ai quelque problèmes .. [14:35] comme l'impossibilité d'ouvrir "fenetre de connexions" dans "configuration" [14:35] si quelqu'un sait pourquoi .. === tej is now known as tanuj === tanuj is now known as tej [14:50] !fr | skhaen [14:50] skhaen: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr [14:52] oh sorry [14:52] default in konversation ^^' [14:58] I am trying to install knode using apt-get .... I would like to install without checking the dependencies ..... for some strange reasons apt-get -f install knode does not work [15:10] i need to repair mp4 file..they say me ..d best software is "Treasured" for MAC....is there any1 for ubuntu 9.04 as well..plz help [15:21] !restricted [15:21] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:37] esa gente que dise el trabajo e [15:40] what is the simplest virtualization software other than virtualbox, i am having trouble installing it [15:42] lovre: vmware [15:43] genii: can i install it from the repos? Does it require any complicated setupi? [15:49] !info vmware-package [15:49] vmware-package (source: vmware-package): utility for building VMware Debian packages. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 0.22 (jaunty), package size 28 kB, installed size 464 kB (Only available for i386 amd64) [15:50] lovre: Might want to enquire about installing, etc in their channel #vmware [15:52] genii: ok, thank you === winston is now known as Guest96166 [16:17] hi all. please help. I cant install linux-headers-xxx, look at this: http://pastebin.com/m48e2121b [16:29] lovre: enable repository of intrepid-updates [16:30] genii: what is the exact repository name? [16:31] lovre: It depends on your area. In mine, Canada, it would be like: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted universe multiverse [16:31] Substitute //ca. part accordingly [16:32] Also suggest to add same line but with deb-src at beginning [16:35] genii: ok, trying, brb === profesor is now known as Destr[o]yer [16:54] hi, what is a good screencaster on kde? [16:56] are there beta users of karmic? [16:57] sourcemaker : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion. [16:57] Pici: ok [17:02] i got this when i try to 'make' recordmydesktop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/293227/ [17:02] subito: Why try to make it when you could just: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install krecordmydesktop [17:03] (might be just recordmydesktop and not krecordmydesktop, but you get the idea) [17:04] genii: because i did not find the package krecordmydesktop and the package recordmydesktop is only for the command-line interface [17:05] !info gtk-recordmydesktop [17:05] gtk-recordmydesktop (source: gtk-recordmydesktop): Graphical frontend for recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7.2-2ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 79 kB, installed size 564 kB [17:05] Also, [17:05] !screencast [17:05] Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Xvidcap, pyvnc2swf. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts. [17:08] genii: i'm on kde so i'd rather use qt-recordmydesktop that gtk-recordmydesktop [17:08] genii: i jut have an error when i try to install qt-recordmydesktop [17:08] !info qt-recordmydesktop [17:08] Package qt-recordmydesktop does not exist in jaunty [17:08] That might be since it doesn't exist [17:08] i mean i have an error when i try to compile it myself [17:09] the error that i pasted above: http://paste.ubuntu.com/293227/ === wsulug is now known as guppy_ [17:11] nobody has an idea about that error? [17:13] i got this when i try to 'make' qt-recordmydesktop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/293227/; does someone have an idea about this? [17:13] subito: Seems to indicate that Argentina is not a valid locale to build for [17:13] genii: ? [17:13] subito: ar.gmo [17:14] genii: ok, but i'm not from argentina :/ [17:14] genii: do you know how can i fix that? [17:16] subito: try using make with -k [17:17] genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/293239/ [17:20] j EFNet [17:20] join EFNet [17:20] subito: Do you have the Qt dev packages installed? [17:21] droxemin: /server newservername or /join #channelname === kiran is now known as Guest41104 [17:22] genii: i code some projects with qt so no problem from there i thing [17:22] think [17:24] genii: i compiled with '-i' it seems to work [17:25] Could not open/configure sound card :( [17:25] subito: Their page http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php indicates that pyQt4 (qt-recordMyDesktop) is needed. Perhaps to install the pyQt4 dev package [17:25] genii: i've installed it already [17:26] subito: I'd suggest then to go moan at whoever is responsible for qt-recordmydesktop [17:27] genii: it worked with the option '-i' but now there is a sound problem [17:27] wow but even without sound the .ogv output is horrible [17:28] subito: -i just ignores errors, doesn't repair them or prevent the errors from corrupting whatever gets made [17:28] yes but since they're translation errors it's not really a problem [17:30] subito: I'd still recommend to you to contact whoever writes and maintains this app, since it's not an officially supported package and there's only so much assistance that can be given here on the subject. [17:31] genii: ok [17:31] i will, thanks === christoph_ is now known as natschil [17:33] anyway the ogv output of recordmydesktop (the official package) is horrible so i think i'll try another one === christoph_ is now known as natschil [17:34] subito: Another suggestion offhand is maybe look at the configure options to see if it has some switch/option to use .po files instead of .gmo [17:36] subito: If the configure file is well written, something like: ./configure --help or --list usually gives all the things which it can use [17:37] genii: ./configure --help | grep .po gives nothing (but there is a (long) help) [17:38] i have a proublem ,i am setting up a computer for browesing the internetbut i dont have another dsl modem for her to use , nor a full depelex modem for dail up . but i do have a few win modems . i have heard the now you can fyind pyrograms yin ylyinux yto make win modems work dose anyyone here know anything about that? [17:39] rickey does the box you want to use as web terminal have a nic card? [17:39] wow i didnt understand [17:40] !ics [17:40] If you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php [17:40] the computer i am useing now will be the computer ill be satting up for her i am useing dsl rigth now [17:41] rickey: winmodems are hit-and-miss as far as trying to get them working under Linux [17:42] rickey if the computers will be in the same place what genii and I are trying to steer you toward is some sort of networked internet sharing as winmodems are flaky at best. [17:42] it is all i have to try and gyeyty her online on her yown [17:43] Your box and the one that you are setting up will be at two different locations then? [17:43] tyhe two computyyeyrs wyilyl bye yin diffyeyryenyt ypayrts yof tyhe house [17:43] compilerwriter: As I gather they are setting the system up at their place with a DSL, then trying to figure out what to put in there so when she takes it home she can still use internet from there [17:44] (although the question at first was not entirely clear) [17:44] There are ways to do wireless networks in the same building rickey. [17:44] rickey: Is the computer a Dell , by any chance? [17:45] genii you might be right I am still not certain from what he has told us. [17:45] the two computers will be in different parts of the house [17:45] no it isnt a dell [17:46] bugger had it been a Dell we might have had a fighting chance. [17:46] i have no extra money for wileryless [17:46] rickey: If the two systems are going to be adjacent to each other, best solution is still the connection-sharing [17:47] and my dsl moden only syeyrvyes yone cyonnecytyion [17:48] this keyboad sucks [17:48] the one connection thing can be fixed with a switch or a router or a second nic card on one machine. [17:49] hiya BluesKaj [17:50] rickey: You can get a router for about $20, have it do the DSL login, plug both boxes to the router [17:50] hi compilerwriter [17:50] * compilerwriter pours BluesKaj a snifter of brandy [17:50] but i dont have two modems [17:50] wow, compilerwriter thx :) [17:51] i know very little abot dsl ,except i use it [17:51] rickey you would only need the one modem. The router would share the connection from the one modem for you. You would still have to run cable though to the other location. [17:51] rickey: You don't need two modems in that case. It goes: phone line->DSL modem->router-> whatever number of computers the router has plugs for [17:52] thanks for drawing the picture for me genii [17:52] oooooooooook [17:52] now where to find a cabel long enoth [17:53] how dose wireless work [17:54] what do yyou need to put in yyour machine for wireless [17:54]