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| chih__ | i upgraded my jaunty image to karmic through "update-manger -d" on an i.mx51 based system. now the system would always get stuck while loading gdm. could anyone give me some pointers regarding how to go about debugging it? | 09:56 |
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| lool | chih__: That's with a custom kernel and no initrd right? | 10:02 |
| lool | chih__: Can you setup a serial console and change the cmdline to log to serial console to see what's going on? | 10:02 |
| chih__ | chih__, i tried "single" to get to the console mode and manually run "/usr/sbin/gdm" gets me the same result. | 10:03 |
| chih__ | lool, already did that. | 10:03 |
| chih__ | lool, right. custom kernel + noinitrd. that's right | 10:03 |
| lool | chih__: So what's the actual problem you're seeing when starting gdm? | 10:04 |
| lool | It hangs the system or it doesn't come up or...? | 10:04 |
| chih__ | lool, i did get "gdm-binary: WARNING: Unable to find users: no seat-id found" while system is hanging... | 10:04 |
| lool | Don't start "/usr/sbin/gdm"; use "sudo start gdm" | 10:05 |
| chih__ | lool, the x swirling cursor is running... | 10:05 |
| lool | In which case? "sudo start gdm"? | 10:05 |
| chih__ | lool, and disk status light is still flashing. but i never got to the gdm login window. | 10:06 |
| chih__ | lool, whether it is through upstart or /usr/sbin/gdm | 10:06 |
| lool | chih__: Can you upload /var/log/gdm/* somewhere? | 10:07 |
| chih__ | lool, sure. hold on. | 10:07 |
| chih__ | lool, are you looking for any specific logs there or everything? | 10:09 |
| lool | chih__: All might be relevant, I dont know yet | 10:10 |
| chih__ | lool, ok. do you have an email address i can send it to? | 10:11 |
| lool | Cant you just upload it to a pastebin or something? | 10:11 |
| lool | Or people.c.c | 10:11 |
| chih__ | lool, ok | 10:12 |
| lool | chih__: start with gdm.log | 10:14 |
| lool | chih__: You know ubuntu-paste? | 10:14 |
| lool | chih__: apt-get install pastebinit | 10:14 |
| lool | alias ubuntu-paste='pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com' | 10:14 |
| lool | chih__: do you see xsplash during boot? | 10:24 |
| chih__ | lool, yes | 10:24 |
| lool | chih__: Do you see it when the session starts? | 10:25 |
| chih__ | lool, i don't quite get your question | 10:25 |
| lool | chih__: Can you paste the list of processesw | 10:26 |
| chih__ | lool, ok | 10:26 |
| lool | chih__: also .xsession-errors from the autologin user | 10:26 |
| chih__ | lool, .xsession-errors at http://paste.ubuntu.com/293009/ | 10:31 |
| lool | chih__: Aha | 10:31 |
| chih__ | lool, :-) | 10:31 |
| lool | chih__: So your log shows UNR starting, that's not standard ubuntu at all | 10:31 |
| lool | chih__: Not only is it UNR, but it's not ubuntu's UNR; it's an enlightenment UNR | 10:32 |
| chih__ | lool, ah. ok. i didn't mean to have it running. | 10:32 |
| lool | chih__: and Xfce?!! | 10:33 |
| chih__ | lool, yep | 10:33 |
| lool | WTF is this setup?? | 10:33 |
| ogra | lool, APM | 10:33 |
| lool | chih__: Is this xfce or unr or...? | 10:33 |
| chih__ | lool, the image happens to use xfce for some reason | 10:33 |
| lool | OMG | 10:33 |
| chih__ | lool, it is a unr launcher on top of xfce desktop | 10:33 |
| chih__ | lool, don't be | 10:33 |
| ogra | lool, it's an xfce desktop and the 2D efl thingie :) | 10:33 |
| chih__ | lool, :) i know it sounds like a mess... | 10:34 |
| chih__ | lool, should i remove unr and try again? | 10:34 |
| lool | chih__: Ok so disable autologin from gdm | 10:34 |
| lool | chih__: Use a recovery session (just starts an xterm) and launch things manually | 10:34 |
| chih__ | lool, ok. need your help here | 10:34 |
| lool | chih__: You could launch "xfce-session &" in that xterm for instance | 10:35 |
| lool | chih__: sudo vi /etc/gdm/*.conf | 10:35 |
| lool | chih__: Look for autologin | 10:35 |
| ogra | funny that the launcher defines itself as <unknown> :) | 10:35 |
| chih__ | lool, like running xinit directly? | 10:35 |
| lool | ogra: How do you know it's the launcher? | 10:35 |
| ogra | lool, because of the error messages | 10:35 |
| ogra | well, warnings rather | 10:36 |
| lool | ogra: Yeah, How do you know it's the launcher? | 10:36 |
| ogra | (<unknown>:1175): liblauncher-DEBUG: launcher-menu.c:361 | 10:36 |
| lool | chih__: Or run startx if you like, but I'd recommend a gdm session instead | 10:36 |
| ogra | and the icon names sound very much like launcher icos as well | 10:36 |
| ogra | *icons | 10:36 |
| ogra | i suspect the fl libs got updated during the upgrade as well ? | 10:37 |
| ogra | *efl | 10:37 |
| chih__ | lool, ok. autologin disabled. | 10:37 |
| lool | chih__: Now you should get the gdm login screen and can select a xterm session and type in your username + password | 10:38 |
| ogra | EDJE: Error loading image collection "images/20" from file "/usr/share/netbook-launcher-efl/data/themes/default.edj". Missing EET Evas loader module? | 10:38 |
| lool | ogra: that's what I think as well | 10:38 |
| lool | chih__: So what's your goal exactly? Running the same stuff as you ran on jaunty or running karmic xfce or karmic gnome? | 10:39 |
| ogra | karmic w3m ! minimalism FTW !! :) | 10:39 |
| chih__ | lool, oh. i am trying to help someone verify some packages that only seem to be available in karmic's arm port | 10:40 |
| lool | chih__: Could you be more precise? | 10:40 |
| lool | lots of packages in karmic | 10:40 |
| chih__ | lool, qt development tools/libraries to be exact | 10:42 |
| lool | chih__: Did you get to that xterm? | 10:45 |
| lool | chih__: So the issue seems pretty clearly related to the UNR 2D + Xfce stuff not starting in karmic anymore; it's likely this stuff needs to be rebased if you want to use it | 10:45 |
| lool | That's not in karmic though, so cant help much there | 10:45 |
| lool | chih__: What you can do is start other session types and test the qt libs from there | 10:46 |
| chih__ | lool, tried startx and failed | 10:46 |
| lool | chih__: startx will start the same session by default | 10:46 |
| chih__ | lool, so, can you show me how to start gdm-session alternatively? | 10:47 |
| lool | chih__: As I said, just select the other session from the gdm start screen | 10:47 |
| lool | chih__: You dont see the session type drop down on your gdm greeter? | 10:47 |
| chih__ | lool, ok. i haven't got to the greeter window yet | 10:48 |
| lool | chih__: You have a password set for your user? | 10:48 |
| chih__ | lool, yes. | 10:48 |
| chih__ | lool, i am still in console mode | 10:49 |
| lool | chih__: If yes, just "sudo stop gdm" and "sudo start gdm" | 10:49 |
| chih__ | lool, ok. trying... | 10:49 |
| lool | That should get you to the gdm greeter now that you turned off autologin | 10:49 |
| chih__ | lool, i got "gdm start/running, process XXXX" and nothing happened... | 10:50 |
| lool | chih__: Switch VT | 10:50 |
| chih__ | lool, negative. tried all the VT's. tty1~tty6 | 10:51 |
| lool | chih__: It's on 7 | 10:51 |
| lool | try alt + left arrow | 10:51 |
| chih__ | lool, uh. no tty7 for me | 10:52 |
| lool | chih__: just reboot, it should get gdm up on the greeter | 10:52 |
| lool | chih__: how did you diable autologin exactly> | 10:52 |
| lool | chih__: I need to drop off now | 10:52 |
| lool | ogra: ^ can you plesae pick it up | 10:52 |
| chih__ | lool, it is in /etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf | 10:52 |
| chih__ | lool, thanks for your help! | 10:52 |
| chih__ | ogra, there is another seemingly important message while booting up: "gdm spawning too fast, stop..." | 11:02 |
| ogra | ChanServ, sounds like your xserver cant start | 11:02 |
| ogra | err chih__ :) | 11:02 |
| chih__ | ogra, yeah? | 11:03 |
| ogra | chih__, so check /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 11:07 |
| chih__ | ogra, ok. | 11:07 |
| ogra | or dump it on the pastebin | 11:07 |
| chih__ | ogra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/293031/ | 11:20 |
| chih__ | ogra, sorry for being a bit slow. network is on and off on this board... :( | 11:20 |
| ogra | mxc_ts The /dev/input/event* device nodes seem to be missing | 11:21 |
| ogra | hmm | 11:21 |
| ogra | that shouldnt stop X from coming up though | 11:22 |
| ogra | but it looks like udev issues | 11:22 |
| chih__ | ogra, x has been rock solid in jaunty though... | 11:22 |
| chih__ | ogra, ok... | 11:22 |
| ogra | likely caused by your kernel missing bits or pieces | 11:23 |
| ogra | gdm still didnt come up after reboot, right ? | 11:23 |
| chih__ | ogra, right. only got to see the xsplash and a running cursor | 11:24 |
| ogra | well, but that means X comes up | 11:24 |
| ogra | weird that gdm doesnt | 11:24 |
| chih__ | ogra, right! | 11:24 |
| chih__ | ogra, mmmm | 11:25 |
| ogra | do the following: | 11:25 |
| chih__ | ok | 11:25 |
| ogra | echo xterm >~/.xsession | 11:25 |
| ogra | then try with startx | 11:25 |
| ogra | should get you at least an xterm up | 11:25 |
| chih__ | i am in | 11:26 |
| chih__ | ogra, then... | 11:26 |
| ogra | ok, that proves it's not X at fault | 11:27 |
| chih__ | yeah! | 11:27 |
| ogra | try running xfce4-session from your xterm | 11:28 |
| chih__ | ok.... | 11:28 |
| chih__ | Gconf error... | 11:30 |
| chih__ | initializing gdu failed | 11:31 |
| ogra | but the session comes up ? | 11:31 |
| chih__ | not completely. i saw the desktop background coming up | 11:32 |
| ogra | panels etc ? | 11:32 |
| chih__ | ogra, nope. still only xterm is there | 11:33 |
| ogra | no WM either ? | 11:33 |
| chih__ | nope | 11:33 |
| chih__ | xfce4 in karmic is seriously screwed? | 11:33 |
| ogra | nope | 11:36 |
| ogra | but i have no clue what the actual name of the xfce session has to be | 11:36 |
| chih__ | ok... | 11:36 |
| ogra | NCommander, ^^^ wha do you need to run to get an xfce desktop ? | 11:39 |
| ogra | *what | 11:40 |
| ogra | chih__, ah, it's startxfce4 not xfce4-session | 11:43 |
| ogra | stop the process in the xterm and run startxfce4 instead | 11:43 |
| chih__ | ok... | 11:44 |
| chih__ | exactly the same as running xfce4-session | 11:47 |
| ogra | thats weird | 11:48 |
| ogra | can you paste your .xsession-errors again ? | 11:48 |
| chih__ | sure | 11:48 |
| chih__ | strangely. whenever system hangs for a considerable amount of time, i start to see "I/O error, dev sda, sector XXXXXXXX" "EXT3-fs error ..." | 11:50 |
| ogra | oh, that sounds like a kernel bug | 11:50 |
| chih__ | ogra, right. never had that in jaunty... | 11:51 |
| chih__ | ogra, oh oh. i am still using the jaunty kernel by the way | 11:51 |
| ogra | well, you are still using the same kernel, no ? | 11:51 |
| chih__ | ogra, yes. only upgraded the FS | 11:51 |
| chih__ | ogra, kernel is in SD card separate from FS | 11:52 |
| ogra | kernel is on SD ? | 11:52 |
| chih__ | ogra, which is in an external USB disk | 11:52 |
| ogra | ah | 11:52 |
| chih__ | ogra, right. the board only supports booting from kernel in SD | 11:52 |
| chih__ | ogra, ah? | 11:52 |
| ogra | i was about to ask about where the rootfs lives ... you answered that faster than i could ask ... thus "ah" :) | 11:53 |
| chih__ | ogra, oh actually... | 11:53 |
| chih__ | ogra, i was trying to upgrade to karmic by manually adding a "karmic" repo in sources.list and gradually went through "apt-get upgrade"... | 11:54 |
| chih__ | ogra, the system was fine during the first couple batches of updates | 11:55 |
| ogra | ugh | 11:55 |
| ogra | use update-manager for such things in the future | 11:55 |
| chih__ | ogra, i was able to enjoy all the rich packages in karmic that way | 11:55 |
| ogra | it has a cmdline tool as well | 11:55 |
| chih__ | ogra, till i updates some "core" stuff and then system wouldn't boot into x any more | 11:55 |
| chih__ | ogra, i think it was upstart related among other things... | 11:56 |
| chih__ | ogra, anyway, it is ok that i can't make it work completely | 11:57 |
| ogra | i heard rumours that upstart has issues when you run it without initramfs | 11:57 |
| ogra | since i'd never do that i cant verify | 11:58 |
| chih__ | ogra, after all, all i need are those karmic packages... | 11:58 |
| chih__ | ogra, i see | 11:58 |
| ogra | do you still see upstart errors on bootup ? | 11:58 |
| chih__ | ogra, i would go back to jaunty and only grab those packages as i usually did before | 11:58 |
| chih__ | ogra, yes. like "gdm spawning too fast..." | 11:58 |
| ogra | beyond that i mean | 11:59 |
| chih__ | ogra, nope. | 11:59 |
| chih__ | ogra, the system would hang trying to get to greeter window/gdm | 12:00 |
| chih__ | ogra, or i shouldn't say "hang", the disk was actually busy reading... | 12:00 |
| chih__ | ogra, until the "I/O error message" i mentioned earlier finally came out. | 12:01 |
| ogra | well, do you have an .xsession-errors excerpt for the test from xterm ? | 12:02 |
| chih__ | ogra, oh. hold on. i have to reboot the system... | 12:02 |
| * ogra has to run out for 30min or so | 12:03 | |
| chih__ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/293058/ | 12:05 |
| chih__ | by the way, i have since removed all netbook-launcher related packages.... | 12:06 |
| NCommander | chih__, ogra, intsall xubuntu-desktop, then select Xfce from th eSessions list at GDM. | 12:32 |
| NCommander | argh | 12:32 |
| whazilla | hi how do i prepare and boot ubuntu on arm mmc bageleboard ? | 14:10 |
| whazilla | i got mini projector as hdmi screen | 14:11 |
| lool | whazilla: http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardUbuntu | 14:23 |
| === bjf-afk is now known as bjf | ||
| Martyn1 | Hmmm. | 16:43 |
| * armin76 checks his mail :) | 16:44 | |
| Martyn1 | armin76: Didn't send it. I had an argument with the CEO yesterday about remote access | 16:44 |
| Martyn1 | "Is it a partner, or company we are doing business with?" | 16:44 |
| Martyn1 | it's going to take a bit for him to cool down, and for me to explain what a 'community developer' is | 16:45 |
| armin76 | :( | 16:45 |
| Martyn1 | he's a good guy, it's just that he is in the middle of Round A financing talks, and so he's touchy about IP, remote access, NDA's, etc. | 16:45 |
| armin76 | np, thanks for trying though | 16:46 |
| Martyn1 | now, to the business of getting Karmic Koala working | 16:46 |
| Martyn1 | I have a serious problem with php5 .. we didn't build it with zlib enabled! | 16:46 |
| Martyn1 | Downloading update from http://downloads.wordpress.org/plugin/wordpress-automatic-upgrade.1.2.5.zip. Unpacking the update. Abort class-pclzip.php : Missing zlib extensions | 16:47 |
| Martyn1 | I was testing out wordpress on my BeagleServer, and ran into this problem. turns out it's a can of worms | 16:47 |
| * armin76 blames NCommander | 16:47 | |
| Martyn1 | zlib, as a whole, is missing. PHP5 does seem to have been compiled with zlib support, but there is no php5-zlib plugin, nor is zlib.so part of the distribution | 16:47 |
| NCommander | armin76, what did I do O_O; | 17:12 |
| armin76 | NCommander: you don't let me play with armv7! | 17:12 |
| NCommander | armin76, I gave you a shell over IPv6! | 17:12 |
| armin76 | NCommander: but for only one day! | 17:13 |
| Martyn1 | *groan* | 17:21 |
| Martyn1 | NCommander: Speaking of v7, do you have 20 minutes or so to give me a helping hand? I need to understand the PPA process of creating an arch | 17:22 |
| NCommander | Martyn, public PPAs are x86/x86_64 only | 17:23 |
| NCommander | Sorry :-/ | 17:23 |
| NCommander | No way around that | 17:23 |
| Martyn1 | I need to find a reliable way to build for v7, with NEON optimizations, for our A9 | 17:23 |
| Martyn1 | and that means finding a better way to recompile all of karmic. I'm abandoning the launchpad system, because it's 1) baroque and 2) broken as all hell for me now | 17:24 |
| Martyn1 | even though I had it working for a while | 17:24 |
| NCommander | Martyn, probably abuse wanna-build/buildd | 17:25 |
| NCommander | Martyn, hold on | 17:25 |
| NCommander | Martyn1, http://www.wzdftpd.net/trac/wiki/Debian/Buildd | 17:26 |
| NCommander | Martyn1, thats part of the Debian build systme, but its compatible with Ubuntu | 17:26 |
| Martyn1 | sure, but only compatible. | 17:27 |
| Martyn1 | Can I point buildd to the ubuntu repositories, and actually end up with a real karmic build? | 17:27 |
| NCommander | Martyn, yes | 17:27 |
| NCommander | Martyn, back in the days before Soyuz, I believe Ubuntu even used the same build infrastructure as Debian | 17:28 |
| Martyn1 | Hmm | 17:34 |
| Martyn1 | Worth a try, at least | 17:34 |
| lool | maen: I just reviewed the two patches from NCommander and will send them your way ASAP; one fixes the e2fsck issue | 17:39 |
| NCommander | lool, er, no, that one just fixes a conditional | 17:40 |
| NCommander | lool, the e2fsck one probably a more indepth fix :-/ | 17:40 |
| lool | Ah | 17:40 |
| lool | Ok | 17:40 |
| NCommander | lool, I can try and run that one down if you want though | 17:40 |
| * NCommander isn't sure if upstream u-boot is affected or not | 17:40 | |
| lool | No; maen's on it already | 17:40 |
| NCommander | maen, you mind trying to help me with UART booting again? I'd *really* like to get it to work | 17:41 |
| Martyn1 | UART booting? | 17:53 |
| Martyn1 | Is that broken? | 17:53 |
| Martyn1 | We have it working here, but on our PBX system | 17:54 |
| Martyn1 | (we're working on getting PXE support shoehorned into u-boot) | 17:54 |
| Martyn1 | then pushed upstream | 17:54 |
| NCommander | Martyn, I just can't get it to work | 17:55 |
| NCommander | Martyn1, probably user error on my end, but damned if I can find the error | 17:55 |
| === rbelem_ is now known as rbelem | ||
| NCommander | maen, do you know if there are any known issues with the kernel on the Y0 locking up hard? | 21:04 |
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