[11:39] what groups is the normal single user in after a default install? I have : adm,dialout,cdrom,plugdev,lpadmin aftera "default" preseed .... no sudo or admin. This seems to lead to issues running various admin guis etc... [16:17] standard groups: adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare Also note that sudoers has an (ALL) ALL entry for group admin by default but not in preseed [16:18] how do I make an install do an upgrade before completing?