[00:02] <ikt> how do you set a private bug to public on launchpad?
[00:02] <ikt> I can't see any options :/
[00:22] <arand> Connecting to wless fails with network manager but succeeds with wpa_supplicant manual config: Which package to bug report against? nm-applet?
[00:25] <bdmurray> likely network-manager
[00:27] <arand> Oh, right... /me be blind
[00:40] <ikt> bdmurray!
[00:40] <ikt> anyone :s
[00:40] <bdmurray> here I am!
[00:41] <bdmurray> There is a pencil by "This report is private" in the upper right
[00:41] <bdmurray> click that
[00:41] <ikt> erm
[00:41] <ikt> I don't see it
[00:42] <bdmurray> what bug number is it?
[00:42] <bdmurray> beneath reported by and above Mark as duplicate
[00:43] <ikt> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/2161836/Screenshot.png
[00:44] <ikt> oh ffs
[00:44] <ikt> it seems like it's a chrome bug
[00:44] <hggdh> bug 148357
[00:44] <ikt> chorium*
[00:44] <ubot4> hggdh: Bug 148357 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/148357 is private
[00:44] <hggdh> ikt -- probably. I see it
[00:44] <ikt> yeah it shows up in firefox
[00:45] <ikt> *chromium
[01:03] <bcurtiswx> anyone else getting the system beep when backspacing too far.. like a modem style beep.. thats really annoying
[01:03] <hggdh> bcurtiswx: on a terminal?
[01:03] <bcurtiswx> that and other places
[01:04] <dmj728> turn off system beeps?
[01:04] <hggdh> try a new userid
[01:04] <hggdh> I could not turn them off. I had it until I moved to a new userid
[01:07] <bcurtiswx> a new userid.. seems like an odd workaround
[01:07] <bcurtiswx> :P
[01:07] <hggdh> :-)
[01:08] <ikt> serious hggdh?
[01:08] <hggdh> eventually I saw it not was a workaround, but as a way to clean up all the cruft I acquired in upgrade after upgrade (I also reinstalled Ubuntu from scratch)
[01:08] <hggdh> ikt: serious
[01:08] <ikt> ah
[01:09] <hggdh> bcurtiswx: the point is I got rid of a LOT of configuration files. Some of them were clashing with PA
[01:10] <bcurtiswx> yeah, i wonder if i can find which config file it is
[02:18] <LordMetroid> I installed scim in my ignorance and as I was informed 9.10 uses ibus instead I uninstalled scim
[02:18] <LordMetroid> However the options in the drop down menu are still present in the language admin settings, what am I to file this under?
[02:21] <micahg> LordMetroid: I would guess scim
[02:23] <LordMetroid> ok
[02:40] <d3xter> hey guys
[02:41] <d3xter> one of my friends tryed to install nvidia 185 on 9.04, but the installation messed up, so he tried to get back to 180, but glx stopped working. the problem was, that libGL and libGLcore pointed at the appropriative 185 version of the library. is there any way that other users dont get stuck on this problem?
[02:51] <micahg> d3xter: I suggest checking in #ubuntu for support
[02:53] <d3xter> why not overwrite the symlinks during the installation? :)
[02:54] <micahg> ah, you're asking about filing a bug
[02:55] <micahg> ok, could you please submit a bug against the 180 package
[02:55] <d3xter> well, i'm a little bit disappointed about filing bugs at launchpad :P
[02:55] <d3xter> micahg: ok
[02:56] <micahg> d3xter: why?
[02:58] <d3xter> micahg: well, i've reported several bugs, but most of them are just marked as "new" and no one has responded
[02:58] <micahg> d3xter: we are very limited on human resources...if no one responds after a few days, feel free to come in here and ask about it
[02:59] <d3xter> micahg: ok, i'll do it the next time :D
[02:59] <micahg> if you'd like to help with bugs, bugsquad's looking for volunteers :)
[03:02] <d3xter> micahg: i'll read through the HowToTriage-page and then lets see :)
[03:02] <d3xter> but for now, i'm going to file my bug :D
[03:02] <micahg> great, feel free to ask questions :)
[03:06] <d3xter> micahg: how many hours per week should someone in the bugsquad work on triaging bugs?
[03:08] <micahg> d3xter: as many as you want
[03:08] <micahg> any and all help is appreciated
[03:13] <d3xter> and a question about the mentorship. i just triage bugs (e.g. reproduce the bug) and then tell my mentor, that i've got the same bug?
[03:13] <micahg> no, the mentor is there to answer questions and guide
[03:14] <micahg> if you can reproduce you can confirm a bug
[04:52] <NCommander> Does anyone know where the wiki page that defined the criteria for priorities are?
[04:52] <NCommander> I have a possible Critical bug, but I just want to recheck it
[04:52] <NCommander> Google isn't seeing it
[05:00] <greg_g> NCommander: is you mean the "importance" field in launchpad, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance
[05:03]  * NCommander bumps his bug down to high
[05:03] <NCommander> greg_g, thanks. Sorry, Debian used priority, and its become ingrained in my brain after so many years :-)
[05:03] <greg_g> NCommander: no worries :)
[05:10] <bd_> How long does the apport retracer usually take to process new bugs? I have a few that have been in need-amd64-retrace for three days now...
[05:37] <turtlesnake> anyone experience issues with the DNS resolver for karmic?  (e.g. multisecond delays before some addresses resolve)
[05:41]  * ^arky^ is back 
[05:53] <^arky^> About bug 450826:  any clues?
[05:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 450826 in ubuntu "The screen now flickers and the keyboard has a mind of its own, e.g. "t" works occasionally, "c" ofen doesn't work, a window about Caret Browsing won't stop popping up.  There's an error message at boot that says "318340 Unknown controller version (16)" and that it may cause trouble.  The earlier version of Ubuntu was great.  This one is trying to imitate Windows--it crashes almost as frequently." [Undecided,N
[07:31] <hatchetman82> hi. where do i file feature suggestions ?
[07:32] <coordinador> hi
[07:32] <coordinador> i have a bug...
[07:32] <hatchetman82> :-)
[07:32] <coordinador> (or may be a suggestion)
[07:32] <coordinador> hi hatchetman82
[07:32] <hatchetman82> hi
[07:32] <coordinador> i want to ask for the "services" item in the administration menu
[07:33] <coordinador> this item will be replaced by another one?
[07:33] <coordinador> i think everyone else are sleeping, hatchetman82
[07:33] <hatchetman82> ....maybe
[07:35] <coordinador> well... i think im gonna sleep
[07:35] <coordinador> see you hatchetman82 , good luck
[07:36] <hatchetman82> thanks
[08:31] <indus> hi all
[10:28] <xteejx> morning all
[10:31] <xteejx> anyone around?
[10:32] <joaopinto> hi
[10:32] <joaopinto> no
[10:33] <xteejx> joaopinto, lol
[11:30] <indus> hello anyone
[11:38] <xteejx> indus, hi
[11:39] <indus> oh hello
[11:39] <indus> i need to know what the status 'triaged' means
[11:41] <indus> can i ask some developer to look into a personal bug?
[11:42] <indus> i could pay money if thats a good thing
[11:44] <indus> hmm no one?
[11:44] <xteejx> indus, we don't accept money :D we are mostly volunteers, but if there is a bug we will get to it. Perhaps if you give us the bug number we can take a look
[11:44] <indus> xteejx: i have this problem since intrepid , cant even boot live cd
[11:44] <indus> xteejx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/425756
[11:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 425756 in linux "[Karmic] cd/dvd drive not detected ." [Undecided,New]
[11:45] <xteejx> indus, triaged means that the bugsquad have collected enough relevant information to help developers begin finding the cause of the problem, and it has been passed on to them, but i'll take a look anyway :)
[11:45] <indus> xteejx: ya that was an unrelated question, i triage bugs myself :) but made some mistakesbefore
[11:45] <xteejx> ohh hehe
[11:46] <indus> xteejx: so 23meg from forums explained to me, its not same as confirmed etc
[11:46] <xteejx> indus, no, confirmed means another user can reproduce it
[11:47] <xteejx> indus, is it related to bug 399054
[11:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 399054 in linux "[Karmic] Frequent freeze on Dell D810" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/399054
[11:48] <indus> xteejx: anyway, imagine not being able  to boot live cd, now thanks to usb boot, i can use ubuntu, a year ago, after passing a million parameters to boot, my live cd booted ,then i always do dist upgrade to update fromwithin
[11:48] <xteejx> indus, i see
[11:48] <indus> xteejx: that bug is totally differnet
[11:48] <xteejx> do you know what options you used before to get it to work?
[11:48] <indus> xteejx: i tried pci=nomsi all_generic_ide all those
[11:48] <xteejx> lol ok :)
[11:49] <indus> xteejx: but it was sheer luck it workedback then, yesterday i tried like hell cos  whole system crashed and had to usb boot after failing allother things
[11:49] <xteejx> i see
[11:49] <indus> xteejx: the live cd after showing menu, seeks HDD thinking it is cd drive
[11:50] <indus> i mean once you select first option in menu
[11:50] <xteejx> indus, it's not one of those sata dvd combo drives is it? i had problems with one before
[11:50] <indus> xteejx: its combo drive but its plain ide
[11:50] <xteejx> strange
[11:50] <indus> xteejx: that huge wide thin cable, cable says HDD cable though :)
[11:51] <indus> xteejx: amd 690 g chipset , did you read that link at last comment?
[11:51] <xteejx> indus, can you try the latest daily build, the kernel version you were using there is 2.6.31-9.29 its above that now, perhaps it has been resolved?
[11:51] <xteejx> indus, i did have a look ye
[11:51] <indus> xteejx: :) iam on karmic beta
[11:52] <xteejx> indus, ok i understand now hehe thought it was a live cd problem, obviously it is if the drive isn't found :D
[11:52] <indus> yeah
[11:53] <indus> solve it and i give you 0.5 dollars :D
[11:53] <indus> well, just kidding
[11:53] <xteejx> i don't want money i work for free....for ubuntu anyway hehe
[11:53] <xteejx> i'll grab the kernel team on irc if poss
[11:53] <indus> but 1 year i havent watched a single dvd movie :(
[11:53] <indus> so much for a combo drive :)
[11:54] <indus> i will be greatful
[11:54] <indus> also, that link is good to see maybe, redhat had a fix too
[11:54] <indus> wait do you want that link ?
[11:54] <xteejx> its a patch, if it can be injected quick enough it might just work ;)
[11:54] <indus> yeah
[11:54] <indus> xteejx: i have one question though
[11:54] <xteejx> sure
[11:55] <indus> xteejx: my same motherboard some people had issues before but fixed later, i had it working before, now stopped
[11:55] <indus> hold on
[11:55] <xteejx> might be a combination of the motherboard and drive
[11:56] <indus> xteejx: i have ide combo with sata hdd seagate
[11:56] <indus> xteejx: worked great till hardy
[11:56] <indus> includin hardy i mean
[11:57] <xteejx> no probs indus, i've got the kernel team now and have notified them, fingers crossed ;)
[11:57] <indus> aah cool
[11:57] <indus>  i should hop into irc more :)
[11:58] <xteejx> i still think we (bugsquad) should have a series of live assistants but in reality it wouldnt work lol
[11:58] <indus> mind you, iam not on my system right now
[11:58] <indus> at work now
[11:58] <indus> but yesterday was a bad night, finally got it instaleld with usb
[11:58] <xteejx> no worries
[12:00] <indus> so what will the kernel team do now?
[12:00] <xteejx> haven't got a reply, will see the procedure i'm a bit rusty have been out of triaging for 4 months lol
[12:01] <indus> xteejx: i found similar bug but thats fixed strangely
[12:01] <xteejx> link?
[12:01] <xteejx> or number
[12:02] <indus> #138305
[12:02] <indus> sorry
[12:02] <indus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/138305
[12:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 138305 in linux "Dell Optiplex 320 won't boot from live CD Gutsy, Hardy, Intrepid" [Medium,Fix released]
[12:03] <indus> xteejx: iam going to try rootdelay=90 tonight to seeif it getsthe device, since the message at boot is . ata1 soft reset failed,device not ready
[12:04] <indus> ill brb a smoke
[12:04] <xteejx> anything is worth a try i guess, but it does look like there's enough information there for the kernel team to have a look, so you're a few steps ahead already
[12:04] <indus> thanks a lot
[12:04] <indus> ya i triage too thesedays
[12:04] <indus> :)
[12:05] <indus> but i confirmed my own bug once :P
[12:05] <xteejx> shouldnt confirm your own bugs, ask on here ;
[12:05] <xteejx> ;)
[12:14] <xteejx> indus, your bug report has been updated with more information we need, after checking the new kernel policies, this needs to be done for testing purposes
[12:19] <indus> xteejx: yikes, how do i do this?
[12:19] <indus> all i can do is apt-get update
[12:20] <xteejx> no worries, we can walk you through it
[12:20] <xteejx> its not OVER difficult thankfully :)
[12:20] <indus> shall i just use the ppa?
[12:21] <indus> xteejx: hmm interesting, its the vanilla kernels isnt it? not ubuntu ones
[12:22] <xteejx> indus, it is, yes
[12:23] <indus> xteejx: hmm ok so should i try the build for oct 13th?
[12:24] <xteejx> whichever the latest daily build is for your system amd64
[12:24] <xteejx> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/current/
[12:24] <xteejx> indus, ^^
[12:25] <indus> wow oct 14th :) they build everyday it seems
[12:25] <indus> so these are just plain vanilla kernels from linus? with no ubuntu patches?
[12:25] <xteejx> indus, daily builds hehe, so from top to bottom you would need numbers 1, 3 and 4
[12:26] <xteejx> they have some ubuntu customisation apparently, but they are pretty much vanilla yes
[12:26] <indus> 1,3,4? i didnt understand
[12:26] <xteejx> top .deb, the third and the fourth ones down
[12:26] <xteejx> i.e.
[12:26] <xteejx> linux-headers-2.6.32-999-generic_2.6.32-999.200910141000_amd64.deb
[12:26] <indus> ya got it
[12:26] <indus> all amd64s and all.deb
[12:27] <xteejx> linux-headers-2.6.32-999_2.6.32-999.200910141000_all.deb and linux-image-2.6.32-999-generic_2.6.32-999.200910141000_amd64.deb
[12:27] <indus> ok will try this today, iam excited already
[12:27] <xteejx> yes but not source hehe :)
[12:27] <indus> thank god
[12:27] <indus> i hope internet works with this ,i think display wont work, i have nvidia
[12:28] <xteejx> indus, i am not guaranteeing that will work by any means, but its part of the testing that needs done according to the kernel team
[12:28] <xteejx> i dont make the rules ;)
[12:28] <indus> 'kernel team' mmm sounds important
[12:28] <indus> ok
[12:29] <indus> so how come if its there in the vanilla kernel, same thing isnot in the ubuntu kernel>?
[12:30] <indus> xteejx: does bios have anything to do with my problem?
[12:31] <xteejx> indus, the ubuntu kernel is only really updated with new ubuntu versions for stability purposes, and I doubt the BIOS would have anything to do with it to be honest
[12:33] <indus> so what do you do in real life
[12:33] <indus> :)
[12:33] <indus> which team are you part of?
[12:34] <xteejx> i'm a prison supervisor for work, but off sick at the mo, and I'm part of Ubuntu BugSquad and Bug Control :)
[12:34] <indus> interesting, prison supervisor
[12:35] <indus> shouldnt you be a programmer?
[12:35] <indus> do they use ubuntu in prison btw ? :)
[12:35] <xteejx> god no, i only push around bugs, useless with with code, and no they use windows 2000 in the prisons how sad lol
[12:35] <indus> lol windows 2000 hehe
[12:35] <indus> at least xp is good
[12:35] <xteejx> waste of taxpayer money they should use almighty ubuntu :D
[12:36] <indus> so many diifferent people in ubuntu community
[12:36] <indus> its cool
[12:36] <xteejx> xp was the only half decent semi bugless OS M$ ever made, but we're going off topic now we'll be told to /msg each other for chit chat :)
[12:37] <indus> lol
[12:37] <indus> ok
[12:37] <indus> anyways ill leave you alone
[12:37] <indus> i go to main ubuntu channel
[12:37] <indus> i check tonight in a few hours and update, will someone be here?
[12:37] <xteejx> lol no problem indus, glad to have been on help :)
[12:37] <xteejx> there's usually more people around about 7 onwards GMT+1
[12:37] <indus> didnt expect such fast help :) iam very happy
[12:38] <xteejx> 7pm sorry
[12:38] <indus> bye then, good days and get well soon
[12:38] <indus> iam from india
[12:38] <xteejx> thankyou good luck!
[12:38] <indus> and i teach ubuntu and get paid for it
[12:38] <indus> :D
[13:08] <zul> pedro_; is the bug day happening here?
[13:08] <pedro_> zul, yup!
[13:10] <pedro_> zul, is this something you plan to fix for karmic? bug 309992
[13:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 309992 in dhcp3 "Japanese manual-pages placed in wrong package" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/309992
[13:11] <zul> pedro_: i dont think so probably for karmic+1
[13:12] <pedro_> zul, roger
[13:18] <zul> oooh...i like the hugday tool ;)
[13:21]  * ttx looks up the tools
[13:24] <pedro_> ttx, zul bug 403599 has a debdiff that might solve the issue, may you have a look to it?
[13:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 403599 in php5 "Installing PHP5 performs a reload to apache instead of a restart" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/403599
[13:24] <pedro_> mm ubot4 is being slow today
[13:25] <zul> pdedro: yeah ttx and I have discussed this before and we are still a bit hestitant about it
[13:27] <zul> besides debian does it a bit differently now
[13:27] <pedro_> zul, i see.. could you comment on the report?
[13:32] <zul> pedro_, done
[13:32] <pedro_> zul, great, thanks!
[13:37] <zul> ttx: 400492 im going to mark that as wont fix because lamont does both debian and ubuntu does that sound sane to you?
[13:38] <ttx> zul: if you comment to explain it and the debian bug is open, yes
[13:38] <zul> ttx: debian is marked as wont fix as well
[13:47] <pedro_> ttx, to who should be assigned bug 379991? it's milestoned to 9.10 and kirkland is commenting on it
[13:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 379991 in qemu-kvm "Certain VMs do not run under KVM using karmic's kernel" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379991
[13:47]  * pedro_ don't like unassigned milestoned reports
[13:48] <ttx> pedro_: I'll look into it
[13:48] <pedro_> ttx, thanks
[13:48] <pedro_> is launchpad a bit slow today or just me?
[13:56] <ttx> pedro_: looks like a mistake. kirkland milestoned it back in June, I think he didn't really want to do that
[13:56] <ttx> pedro_: I unmilestoned it
[13:56] <ttx> especially as it was missing the corresponding karmic nomination
[13:58] <pedro_> ttx, ok, thanks
[15:01] <pedro_> zul, is this going to make it for karmic? bug 436835
[15:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 436835 in vm-builder "[PATCH] fix failure: TypeError: not enough arguments for format string" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436835
[15:02] <zul> pedro_, dont know yet I would like it to i was going to do some vmbuilder stuff this afternoon
[15:38] <bddebian> Boo
[15:39] <ikt> =o
[15:47] <xteejx> Hey guys
[15:51] <xteejx> anyone ever use mdadm?
[16:00] <pedro_> ttx, zul to be sure, is this a mysql issue? bug 392521
[16:00] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 392521 in php5 "Segmentation fault when using php -l to validate any PHP script" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392521
[16:00] <pedro_> ttx, zul check comment 8 and 9
[16:05] <ttx> pedro_: that would make it a duplicate of bug 343870, if those comments are true
[16:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 343870 in php5 "php-cli segmentation fault with mysql extension" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/343870
[16:07] <ttx> pedro_: I would say "its probably fixed by the fix for 343870, please confirm" and set incomplete or fixreleased
[16:07] <ttx> zul should have more insight as he fixed the other one
[16:07] <pedro_> ttx, yup, will follow up with the guys there to get a confirmation
[16:10] <zul> sorry was on the phone
[16:10] <zul> yeah its a mysql bug I am able to reproduce it and have a possible fix for it, just havent gotten to it yet
[16:11] <zul> i havent been able to reproduce it on karmic thankfully
[16:15] <pedro_> zul, ah thanks, i've commented there to get a confirmation that it's fixed for them with karmic
[16:15] <pedro_> zul, ttx what do you think about bug 315427
[16:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 315427 in samba "winbind is not started before samba, but should" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/315427
[16:15] <pedro_> could you comment there in the report?
[16:24] <zul> done
[17:23] <xteejx> Am i connected?
[17:24] <joaopinto> xteejx, no
[17:24] <xteejx> thanks joaopinto
[17:29] <xteejx> anyone know how to triage mdadm?
[17:37] <andreas_> is there any info on the nvidia driver working with the latest snapshot of karmic? downloaded karmic 2 days ago and couldn't install the nvidia driver...
[17:37] <andreas_> on my Sony laptop it's an 8400M GT...
[17:37] <andreas_> it downloaded but didn't install...and then didn't boot anymore...
[17:47] <xteejx> andreas_: I'm using Karmic with the 180 nvidia driver with no problem
[17:48] <andreas_> somehow it didn't allow me to install it...it asks for my PW I enter it and the driver was downloaded but not activatet..
[17:51] <xteejx> my "hardware drivers" stalled when i tried to install it, i done all updates, rebooted and it was fine
[17:51] <andreas_> I think I'll grab the lates snapshot and try again...
[18:02] <joaopinto> is mysqld broken today for anyone else ?
[18:15] <zul> pedro_, can i offer a suggestion for your lists, it would be nice to have 3 columns the bug number the title of the bug and the actual package that it affects
[18:16] <pedro_> zul, that's a good idea for general hug days like this one, but most of the times we organize bug days based on packages which makes things easier in that way, but yeah would be nice to include that there for next time
[18:16]  * pedro_ taking note
[18:16] <zul> gotcha
[18:21] <bdmurray> in a multi-task bug report which task would you pick?
[19:19] <emanuel__> hi
[19:27] <lfaraone> bdmurray: what package should bug 77010 be filed against? Even though snd_pskp and pcspkr are blacklisted, the system still beeps
[19:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 77010 in hundredpapercuts "Overuse of system beep without volume control" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77010
[19:32] <bdmurray> lfaraone: its hard to tell so far
[19:32] <lfaraone> bdmurray: mk. is there any way to simply tell GNOME apps to not send a system bell? It's causing problems when my laptop randomly beeps in class :(
[19:33] <Snicksie> hm, got that problem too on version 9.04, even with pulse-audio system-sounds turned off it still beeps :)
[19:34] <joaopinto> lfaraone, try: xset b off
[19:36] <Snicksie> joaopinto, in terminal? or where else? ;)
[19:37] <joaopinto> Snicksie, in terminal
[19:37] <Snicksie> all right, i'll try :)
[19:38] <Snicksie> joaopinto, thanks, it works :) will it remain working after restart or do i have to do the same again? ;)
[19:40] <joaopinto> Snicksie, you will need to add it to your ~/.bash_rc
[19:40] <joaopinto> to make it permanent
[19:42] <Snicksie> joaopinto, all right :)
[19:42] <joaopinto> sorry ,i mean, ~/.bashrc
[19:43] <joaopinto> anyone on 64 bits that could check mysql ?
[20:06] <xteejx> anyone awake?
[20:07] <xteejx> perhaps not :)
[20:09]  * micahg is :)
[20:10] <xteejx> wahey!
[20:10] <xteejx> micahg, bug 158258, I assume it's OK to do that, I've seen it done before....that right?
[20:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 158258 in dpkg "dpkg core dump on too many dependencies resolution" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158258
[20:11] <xteejx> its a quickie
[20:12] <micahg> xteejx: I try to point people to here if it's an issue limited to their release: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades?action=show&redirect=FeistyUpgrades
[20:12] <micahg> actually just this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[20:12] <xteejx> ha! i've never seen that before!
[20:13] <micahg> but yes, I think it was correct to point out an upgrade in that case, you might want to comment with that link though so the user can get out of it
[20:13] <xteejx> I am just about to do that, and bookmarking it ;) thanks micah
[20:15]  * xteejx hates UK telly at 8:15 on a wednesday....nothing on
[20:58] <xteejx> bug 159100, anyone know about this suggest/depends apt suggestion??
[20:58] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 159100 in hibernate "Remove from archive / Conflict with "acpi-support"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159100
[21:03] <bdmurray> asac: I'm experiencing bug 126987 atm depending on which theme I use
[21:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 126987 in network-manager-applet "The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources.  It cannot continue." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126987
[21:06] <micahg> I've had this several times as well since upgrading to Karmic
[21:09] <xteejx> can anyone look at bug 159100 please?
[21:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 159100 in hibernate "Remove from archive / Conflict with "acpi-support"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159100
[21:09] <xteejx> i've looked at the package and it doesn't have a conflict for that, but i'm not sure if it should...
[21:26] <micahg> ping dtchen re pulseaudio
[21:33] <xteejx> micahg, no speaky die deutsch
[21:33] <xteejx> bdmurray, are you around?
[21:35] <xteejx> bdmurray, its to do with bug 67226, I thought I should let you as bugmaster know about this one, simply for the reason that the report is being split into 2 conversations, I hope my last comment doesn't infuriate that member of canonical staff, if you wouldn't mind confirming the procedure for this please?
[21:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 67226 in openoffice.org "[jaunty] Firefox 3.5 and openoffice do not stick to antialiasing render settings" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67226
[21:38] <micahg> xteejx: why did you tag it jaunty?  it seems to be in karmic as well according to one of the commenters
[22:33] <lfaraone> joaopinto: that only works inside a TTY, nO?
[22:33] <lfaraone> *no?
[22:34] <joaopinto> lfaraone, no, it only works from a X client
[22:34] <joaopinto> xset is for X
[23:15] <molok> hi *
[23:16] <molok> I have a bug to report, but I'm not really sure about the cause of the problem
[23:18] <molok> as you can see here http://pastebin.com/m7f8e01fe at line 613
[23:18] <molok> the boot stops for ~10 minutes
[23:19] <molok> then everything works fine
[23:19] <molok> it just stops for 10 minutes, for no reason
[23:19] <molok> I'm using the latest kernel (2.6.31-14-generic) and I've got this problem since the upgrade to the beta
[23:21] <molok> I'm not sure against which package file the bug
[23:30] <mrand> molok: I'm not sure the answer to your question, but some items that might be of interest and worth mentioning in your bug report: does this only occur on resume, or does it also occur during a cold (non-resumed) boot?
[23:30] <molok> it has nothing to do with resume/hibernation
[23:30] <molok> that log is from a straight boot
[23:31] <mrand> BTW, I applaud you for waiting out that ten minutes.
[23:31] <molok> :D
[23:31] <molok> I actually thought it was just broken
[23:31] <molok> but I was busy lockpicking a lock
[23:31] <molok> :D
[23:31] <molok> then the boot resumed
[23:32] <molok> I can reproduce this every time, it's really a weird bug
[23:32] <mrand> molok: it appears from the messages that even if you weren't trying to resume from hibernation, it seems to think you were attempting to.  Messages 614 thru 617
[23:33] <molok> yep, I think it tries everytime; isn't that the default behaviour?
[23:36] <mrand> molok: Indeed, but I can't help but be suspect that the delay is happening right there.
[23:38] <molok> I think I'll file it against linux-image, if it's the wrong package, someone will reassign it I guess
[23:38] <mrand> My suggestion would be ubuntu-bug linux
[23:39] <molok> ok