| LaserJock | anybody offhand know the syntax for doing a "if previous package version is less than <current version> then run this" for a postinst? | 00:33 |
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| TheMuso | LaserJock: an example from pulseaudio: dpkg --compare-versions "$2" lt-nl "0.9.14-0ubuntu9"; then | 00:57 |
| TheMuso | so if dpkg --compare-versions "$2" lt-nl "0.9.14-0ubuntu9"; then; then | 00:57 |
| LaserJock | TheMuso: 2 then's? | 00:58 |
| TheMuso | LaserJock: no | 00:58 |
| TheMuso | sorry meant one | 00:58 |
| TheMuso | I didn't realise I copied the then | 00:58 |
| LaserJock | k, I was just making sure I wasn't going insane | 00:58 |
| LaserJock | is that the only way to tell if a package is being upgraded as opposed to a new install? | 01:06 |
| TheMuso | LaserJock: There is checking what is passed to the script in $1 | 01:16 |
| TheMuso | I think that can help some | 01:17 |
| leonel | can someone check bug 446838 if I've did the diffs correct ?? | 01:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 446838 in squirrelmail "Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/446838 | 01:23 |
| ScottK | zul: What's the story about ebox-dhcp? Do you have an archive admin who will review it (I can't promise to have time)? | 02:35 |
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| zul | ScottK: Im not exactly sure what happened with it, I thought I uploaded it | 02:57 |
| zul | ScottK: I got it now Im going to upload it | 03:02 |
| kirkland | okay it's late | 04:12 |
| kirkland | someone help me | 04:12 |
| kirkland | what's the recipe for moving a file from one package to another, when both packages are going to be installed at the same time on the same system | 04:13 |
| kirkland | conflicts/replaces i know | 04:13 |
| kirkland | more detail please | 04:13 |
| ScottK | kirkland: Replaces: kdebase-workspace-bin (<= 4:4.1.82-1) and Conflicts: kdebase-workspace-bin (<< 4:4.1.82) would be an example. | 04:39 |
| kirkland | ScottK: thanks muchly | 04:39 |
| ScottK | Note I edited that and they don't match exactlyu | 04:40 |
| superm1 | ScottK, would you mind looking over bug 432669? I'm getting some questions already from people about it | 04:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 432669 in lcdproc "Please update LCDproc to 0.5.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432669 | 04:52 |
| ScottK | superm1: How useful is this package outside Mythbuntu? | 04:57 |
| wrapster | apart from dpkg -S and apt-cache search is there any other way to find out info about the location of a particular file and see in which pkg it exists? | 04:57 |
| superm1 | ScottK, afaik, only useful in media center boxes | 04:58 |
| superm1 | so maybe it really should just be our call | 04:58 |
| ScottK | superm1: I'd say you're call with your Mythbuntu hat then. | 04:58 |
| superm1 | ScottK, okay thanks | 04:58 |
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| fabrice_sp | Hi. Is dbus supposed to work in a chroot? I've just installed a package, and I'm getting "dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.apertium.info was not provided by any .service files" but the service file exists... | 07:07 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:39 |
| MTecknology | dholbach: G'MORNING!! | 07:47 |
| dholbach | hi MTecknology | 07:47 |
| MTecknology | dholbach: you should join me in my quest | 07:47 |
| dholbach | should I? :) | 07:47 |
| MTecknology | I'm trying to compile an Ubuntu kernel that's less than 2.5MB, prefere 2.1 | 07:48 |
| MTecknology | but still giving me a fully usable system | 07:48 |
| dholbach | no no no no no no no | 07:48 |
| MTecknology | yes? | 07:48 |
| dholbach | I stopped building kernels like 5-6 years ago | 07:48 |
| dholbach | I'm happy thanks :) | 07:48 |
| MTecknology | :P | 07:48 |
| MTecknology | so far my .config is ~50% the ubuntu .config | 07:49 |
| MTecknology | but - I don't have ext2,3, btrfs, etc. support. Only ntfs, fat, and ext4 | 07:49 |
| dholbach | good luck | 07:51 |
| MTecknology | :P - thanks | 07:53 |
| MTecknology | Do you know if there's much difference between vanilla kernel and ubuntu kernel branches aside from .configs? | 07:54 |
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| leaf-sheep | Hello, I'm wondering if I can request for a package to be updated? It have been long time since it got updated. | 09:41 |
| azeem | is it updated in Debian? | 09:41 |
| leaf-sheep | azeem: I don't know. I'll try and find out. | 09:42 |
| leaf-sheep | azeem: Ubuntu + Debian --> Same package version. I'm talking about the package -- cgoban | 09:43 |
| wrapster | i have a tar file which contains only libraries that needs to sit in the /usr/include dir... | 09:44 |
| wrapster | using this can i create a .deb pkg? | 09:44 |
| wrapster | its urgent could you please help me? | 09:44 |
| azeem | libraries don't sit in /usr/include | 09:45 |
| leaf-sheep | azeem: http://www.gokgs.com/download.jsp | 09:48 |
| leaf-sheep | azeem: It's at 3.3.26 -- I take it that it won't be updated until Debain do that? | 09:49 |
| azeem | leaf-sheep: well, if it was updated in Debian, it would automatically get updated in Ubuntu once karmic is released | 09:51 |
| leaf-sheep | azeem: Is there a particular debian-motu channel that I can request in? | 09:52 |
| azeem | no, you can file a wishlist bug in the Debian bug tracker after checking whether there is one already | 09:53 |
| leaf-sheep | azeem: I see. I'll do that. Thank you. :) | 09:54 |
| wrapster | azeem: sorry ... its header files. | 09:54 |
| wrapster | this tarball only contains headerfiles that need to be in the above metioned dir.. i have a tar ball of it.. how can i create a pkg out of it.. | 09:55 |
| wrapster | how do i use the debhelper scripts? | 09:55 |
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| wrapster | whys is it that mkdir -p debian/mpsnexenta/usr/include/mps | 11:11 |
| wrapster | tar -C debian/mpsnexenta/usr/include/mps -zxf ../mps.tar.gz | 11:11 |
| wrapster | if included in the rules file is creating something like this /usr/include/mps/usr/include/mps/ | 11:12 |
| walterl | hi | 11:15 |
| walterl | python packagers: have anyone else run into the problem of data files being installed in dist-packages and source being installed in site-packages, causing pbuilder build to barf? | 11:15 |
| geser | wrapster: do the files inside your mps.tar.gz contain a path? | 11:31 |
| wrapster | geser: yeah.. and i resolved it. | 11:31 |
| wrapster | geser: that was infact the issue | 11:31 |
| sebner | huhu mok0 sistpoty|work :D | 11:56 |
| sistpoty|work | hi sebner | 11:56 |
| norax_ | I am trying to look for a FTBFS bug, but http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20090909-karmic.html seems fallen. Any other list? | 12:11 |
| norax_ | ok. http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ I hadn't seen the topic. | 12:13 |
| wgrant | norax_: Sorry - the Launchpad issues earlier made it a bit angry. Fixing now. | 12:15 |
| wekt | where do bug reports on the 'alternative' debian install program go? package debian-installer seems to be something different according to the description. | 12:23 |
| dholbach | wekt: that depends on which part of it is failing - the people in #ubuntu-installer will know | 12:27 |
| wekt | i think that puts me 1 step closer | 12:28 |
| LordMetroid | Why was ibus choosen? | 12:41 |
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| LordMetroid | It lacks functionality, the katakana, hiragana, romaji change key for once doesn't seem to work | 12:41 |
| LordMetroid | Hmm, maybe I am at the wrong place for these comments | 12:42 |
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| james_w | ScottK: did you decide on a date for final freeze for universe? | 13:17 |
| james_w | ScottK: if so then I think announcing it on the list would be a good idea to alleviate some panic today :-) | 13:18 |
| james_w | (apologies if you have and I missed it) | 13:18 |
| directhex | give me until this evening - banshee 1.5.1 is finally out ;) | 13:18 |
| ScottK | james_w: Good suggestion. It'll be after the RC is out, so no need for people to panic. I need to email the other motu-release people and get the exact time decided. | 13:23 |
| james_w | ScottK: great, thanks | 13:23 |
| sistpoty|work | ScottK: how about somewhen around 25th? | 13:41 |
| siretart` | is that the release date? | 13:42 |
| sistpoty|work | siretart`: no, release is 29th | 13:42 |
| siretart` | oh, ok | 13:42 |
| sistpoty|work | finalfreeze is just needing an ACK for each upload | 13:43 |
| bdrung_ | sistpoty|work: from whom? | 13:45 |
| sistpoty|work | bdrung_: universe: motu-release | 13:46 |
| bdrung_ | sistpoty|work: i wanted to hear irc nick names. :) seams so that you are on the list | 13:47 |
| sistpoty|work | bdrung_: that would be ScottK, iulian, vorian, nhandler and myself | 13:48 |
| bdrung_ | sistpoty|work: eclipse-cdt is totally outdated and does not work. is it possible to upload a new upstream release after final freeze? | 13:49 |
| siretart` | bdrung_: do you manage to have a look at the mplayer-skin mess? | 13:49 |
| bdrung_ | siretart: sorry, no. maybe it works if mplayer-skins provides mplayer-skin (note: missing s) | 13:50 |
| bdrung_ | siretart: rl and eclipse consumes too much time. | 13:50 |
| sistpoty|work | bdrung_: I must admit that I'd prefer to have it done before final freeze (universe isn't final frozen yet) | 13:51 |
| bdrung_ | sistpoty|work: there is only one problem: it's not packaged yet. | 13:52 |
| sistpoty|work | bdrung_: then get working on it ;) | 13:52 |
| bdrung_ | sistpoty|work: we are still working on eclipse itself (will hopefully upload it today) | 13:53 |
| sistpoty|work | ah, k | 13:53 |
| siretart` | bdrung_: I don't think it's that easy :( | 13:53 |
| siretart` | but ok | 13:53 |
| bdrung_ | siretart: cdt will probably easier than eclipse sdk. | 13:54 |
| bdrung_ | sistpoty|work: we have to remove eclipse-cdt from the archive if we do not manage it to update the package | 13:55 |
| sistpoty|work | bdrung_: hm... | 13:56 |
| joaopinto | eclipse right now does not allow to install plugins, or how do you call it on eclipse :P | 13:56 |
| bdrung_ | joaopinto: i will upload -0ubuntu3 which fixes this | 13:57 |
| joaopinto | bdrung, great :) | 13:57 |
| bdrung_ | joaopinto: but there may be another issue... | 13:59 |
| bdrung_ | with some md5sums | 13:59 |
| ScottK | sistpoty|work: I do think we want cdt updated if it's packaged. | 14:13 |
| sistpoty|work | ScottK: *nod*, the sooner the better | 14:16 |
| joaopinto | hum, did anyone test run grnotify before introducing it into the repository ? | 14:29 |
| james_w | joaopinto: bug 413816 or bug 370524? :-) | 14:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 413816 in grnotify "[karmic] grnotify fails to install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/413816 | 14:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 370524 in grnotify "GrNotify doesn't start due to module import error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/370524 | 14:34 |
| joaopinto | james_w, a new one, the source seems broken to me | 14:36 |
| james_w | does it need more bugs? :-) | 14:36 |
| james_w | failing to install and failing to start would seem to be enough | 14:36 |
| joaopinto | it fails to install due to a python-xml dependency | 14:37 |
| joaopinto | it will install and run without it | 14:38 |
| james_w | well it sounds like it doesn't follow the python policy correctly | 14:38 |
| joaopinto | AttributeError: 'grnotify' object has no attribute 'getUnreadFeeds' | 14:39 |
| joaopinto | now it misses a method definition | 14:39 |
| jdong | install: build | 14:41 |
| jdong | python install.py local | 14:41 |
| jdong | the heck?? | 14:42 |
| jdong | are we remotely supposed to package Python stuff this way? | 14:42 |
| jdong | well I suppose it was initially packaged for Jaunty | 14:43 |
| jdong | must've worked back then | 14:43 |
| joaopinto | it does not run from a jaunty schroot | 14:43 |
| jdong | lol ok then no more inventing excuses for the packager. | 14:44 |
| joaopinto | and I dond't understand how it ever run anywhere, getUnreadFeeds is not on the upstream source tarball either | 14:46 |
| joaopinto | oh wait, there is a getUnreadFeeds on GoogleReader.py | 14:47 |
| joaopinto | urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 401: Unauthorized | 14:53 |
| joaopinto | next | 14:53 |
| sistpoty|work | hm... maybe we should remove it? doesn't look like there's upstream activity any longer | 14:56 |
| joaopinto | I am trying to fix it but I will probably give up :P | 15:00 |
| sistpoty|work | heh | 15:01 |
| joaopinto | for some reason it is not sending the cookies received from the login method | 15:02 |
| joaopinto | i's just trying to fetch https://www.google.com/reader/api/0/unread-count?all=true | 15:03 |
| joaopinto | anyone experienced with urllib2 and cookies :P ? | 15:05 |
| ScottK | iulian, vorian, nhandler, sistpoty|work: You have mail. | 15:05 |
| sistpoty|work | hm... only spam so far /me waits a little bit longer until the carrier pidgeon arrives | 15:07 |
| * iulian is waiting as well. | 15:08 | |
| ScottK | Sent it to your ubuntu.com addresses, so Canonical may take a little while to forward it on. | 15:08 |
| ScottK | I checked my mail logs and they accepted it. | 15:09 |
| sistpoty|work | well, it's a long way, so... *g* | 15:10 |
| iulian | Indeed. :) | 15:10 |
| * sistpoty|work looks at the glassbowl and assumes the mail will be there in ~2 minutes | 15:12 | |
| iulian | Ah-ha! It has just arrived. | 15:17 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 15:38 |
| sistpoty|work | hi bddebian | 15:39 |
| sebner | huhu bddebian :D | 15:40 |
| bddebian | Hi sistpoty|work, sebner | 15:40 |
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| juin | Hi :) I'm co-developer of the game "Plee the Bear". I've seen that the version of the package in Karmic is 0.2.1 but we have uploader version 0.4.1 in Debian a few weeks ago. Is there a chance to have 0.4.1 included in Karmic? | 17:09 |
| randomaction | !FFe | juin | 17:18 |
| ubottu | juin: uvf is Upstream Version Freeze. For an exception, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess | 17:18 |
| joaopinto | juin, als you want to request a sync from debian | 17:18 |
| joaopinto | also | 17:18 |
| randomaction | juin: today is a last day before FinalFreeze | 17:18 |
| joaopinto | it is ?? | 17:19 |
| joaopinto | for universe ? | 17:20 |
| Laney | no | 17:20 |
| Laney | for main and restricted | 17:20 |
| sistpoty|work | no, universe finalfreeze deadline is still being discussed | 17:20 |
| joaopinto | ok :P | 17:20 |
| randomaction | ah, sorry | 17:21 |
| randomaction | today's u-d-a mail didn't make it totally clear for me | 17:21 |
| Laney | there was a link to some old information for universe | 17:21 |
| Laney | . o O ( should motu-release re-publish and update these documents each release?) | 17:22 |
| juin | I did not find on the website of Ubuntu when the syncs from Debian occur, do you have a link for me? | 17:22 |
| joaopinto | juin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess | 17:23 |
| * sistpoty|work heads home... cya | 17:24 | |
| juin | thanks | 17:25 |
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| Zhenech | .wi19 | 18:03 |
| Zhenech | upsala :) | 18:03 |
| sebner | ScottK: do you know anything about a FFe for smuxi aka not needing one? | 18:04 |
| ScottK | sebner: Is there a bug? | 18:04 |
| sebner | ScottK: nope, bugfix (only?) release only | 18:05 |
| ScottK | sebner: Then it doesn't need an FFe is it's bugfix only. | 18:05 |
| sebner | ScottK: http://projects.qnetp.net/versions/show/9 | 18:05 |
| ScottK | sebner: I'll trust your judgement of if it's bugfix only | 18:06 |
| sebner | ScottK: fine. thx | 18:07 |
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| fabrice_sp | randomaction, ping | 19:36 |
| randomaction | fabrice_sp: hi | 19:36 |
| fabrice_sp | Hi :-) | 19:36 |
| fabrice_sp | I was having a look at bug #451332 and it seems that Debian already fixed the same bug in the next version of the package. Did you ahd a look at it? | 19:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 451332 in kpowersave "kpowersave 0.7.3-4ubuntu1 FTBFS with autoconf 2.64" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451332 | 19:37 |
| randomaction | no, but I should have :( | 19:38 |
| randomaction | I think it's better to sync | 19:39 |
| fabrice_sp | yes :-) | 19:39 |
| fabrice_sp | it's not really a sync, I think that it seems some kubuntu patch has been there for a while, so perhaps it should be kept | 19:39 |
| fabrice_sp | we can also 'import' the debian patch, and say that it comes for there in the changelog, and make easier the merger life in next merge :-) | 19:40 |
| randomaction | ah, we also have a kubuntu-specific patch. | 19:41 |
| fabrice_sp | yes | 19:41 |
| ScottK | I'm gong to look at that | 19:42 |
| randomaction | shall I transform it into a merge request? | 19:42 |
| ScottK | Let me look at that patch first | 19:43 |
| randomaction | sure | 19:43 |
| fabrice_sp | ok | 19:43 |
| fabrice_sp | Super ScottK comes to the rescue :-) | 19:44 |
| ScottK | fabrice_sp and randomaction: The patch can be dropped now that kpowersave is in Universe. | 19:45 |
| randomaction | wow, it's from April 2004 :) | 19:46 |
| fabrice_sp | so it can be a sync request, then. I'll test build the Debian package | 19:46 |
| randomaction | ok, thanks fabrice_sp and ScottK | 19:46 |
| fabrice_sp | randomaction, you take care of updating the bug report? | 19:47 |
| randomaction | ok, just will test-build first | 19:47 |
| randomaction | fabrice_sp: updated | 20:01 |
| fabrice_sp | randomaction, ok. Can you just add the changelog entries since the actual version? This way, we will justify this sync :-) | 20:02 |
| randomaction | Done. I'm no replacement to requestsync :) | 20:04 |
| fabrice_sp | lol | 20:09 |
| fabrice_sp | you can run requestsync, and paste the output, withotu send it ;-) | 20:09 |
| leonel | can someone check bug 446838 if I've made the diffs correct ?? thank you | 20:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 446838 in squirrelmail "Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/446838 | 20:25 |
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| directhex | jono! | 22:50 |
| directhex | jono!jono!jono!jono!jono!jono!jono! | 22:51 |
| sebner | jono \o/ | 22:51 |
| directhex | jonojonojonojonojono? | 22:57 |
| mrooney|w | Are there specific rules for compiled things in a source package? For example if the normal distribution method for a certain Java package is shipping a .war file, can a .deb just ship the war and appropriate init scripts to make deployment more automated? | 23:06 |
| mrooney|w | Obviously, it is possible to do that, for clarity my question is, can a package in say, universe do this | 23:08 |
| ScottK | Not knowing anything about Java stuff, is a .war file the preferred form for modification? | 23:09 |
| mrooney|w | ScottK: no that is the problem, it is basically a compiled Java package | 23:11 |
| ScottK | mrooney|w: Then no. | 23:11 |
| ScottK | It would need to go in multiverse | 23:11 |
| ScottK | Licensing would need to allow redistribution. | 23:11 |
| mrooney|w | I see, even if it points to the source which is properly licensed? | 23:12 |
| ScottK | Yes, even if. | 23:12 |
| directhex | mrooney|w, then the package can compile the .war at compile time, to build the deb | 23:12 |
| ScottK | The source needs to be in the source package and the binary needs to be built from that source | 23:12 |
| directhex | the only time it's acceptable to ship binaries in "source packages" is for bootstrapping (e.g. a c compiler is needed to compile a c compiler). this doesn't come under that heading | 23:13 |
| mrooney|w | I see, okay. | 23:13 |
| ScottK | And that's only OK as a temporary measure until you can upload one built from source. | 23:14 |
| ScottK | We could never release with that. | 23:14 |
| mrooney|w | I see, apparently it is challenging to build maven-based software according to debian policy, so that is why I was asking | 23:14 |
| directhex | maven is indeed troublesome, afaik | 23:15 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 23:15 |
| mrooney|w | So I guess PPA or multiverse are the best options? | 23:16 |
| directhex | there's one reason for mono adoption: our tools as packagers suck less | 23:16 |
| mrooney|w | haha, maven is actually pretty awesome | 23:16 |
| directhex | says the guy eyeing up multiverse! | 23:17 |
| mrooney|w | haha, it makes it super trivial to build | 23:17 |
| mrooney|w | not trivial to satisfy debian policy | 23:17 |
| mrooney|w | oh well, thanks for the advice, now I know the options :) | 23:17 |
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