LaserJockanybody offhand know the syntax for doing a "if previous package version is less than <current version> then run this" for a postinst?00:33
TheMusoLaserJock: an example from pulseaudio: dpkg --compare-versions "$2" lt-nl "0.9.14-0ubuntu9"; then00:57
TheMusoso if dpkg --compare-versions "$2" lt-nl "0.9.14-0ubuntu9"; then; then00:57
LaserJockTheMuso: 2 then's?00:58
TheMusoLaserJock: no00:58
TheMusosorry meant one00:58
TheMusoI didn't realise I copied the then00:58
LaserJockk, I was just making sure I wasn't going insane00:58
LaserJockis that the only way to tell if a package is being upgraded as opposed to a new install?01:06
TheMusoLaserJock: There is checking what is passed to the script in $101:16
TheMusoI think that can help some01:17
leonelcan someone check  bug 446838  if I've did the diffs  correct ??01:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 446838 in squirrelmail "Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44683801:23
ScottKzul: What's the story about ebox-dhcp?  Do you have an archive admin who will review it (I can't promise to have time)?02:35
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zulScottK: Im not exactly sure what happened with it, I thought I uploaded it02:57
zulScottK: I got it now Im going to upload it03:02
kirklandokay it's late04:12
kirklandsomeone help me04:12
kirklandwhat's the recipe for moving a file from one package to another, when both packages are going to be installed at the same time on the same system04:13
kirklandconflicts/replaces i know04:13
kirklandmore detail please04:13
ScottKkirkland: Replaces: kdebase-workspace-bin (<= 4:4.1.82-1) and Conflicts: kdebase-workspace-bin (<< 4:4.1.82) would be an example.04:39
kirklandScottK: thanks muchly04:39
ScottKNote I edited that and they don't match exactlyu04:40
superm1ScottK, would you mind looking over bug 432669?  I'm getting some questions already from people about it04:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 432669 in lcdproc "Please update LCDproc to 0.5.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43266904:52
ScottKsuperm1: How useful is this package outside Mythbuntu?04:57
wrapsterapart from dpkg -S and apt-cache search is there any other way to find out info about the location of a particular file and see in which pkg it exists?04:57
superm1ScottK, afaik, only useful in media center boxes04:58
superm1so maybe it really should just be our call04:58
ScottKsuperm1: I'd say you're call with your Mythbuntu hat then.04:58
superm1ScottK, okay thanks04:58
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fabrice_spHi. Is dbus supposed to work in a chroot? I've just installed a package, and I'm getting "dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.apertium.info was not provided by any .service files" but the service file exists...07:07
dholbachgood morning07:39
MTecknologydholbach: G'MORNING!!07:47
dholbachhi MTecknology07:47
MTecknologydholbach: you should join me in my quest07:47
dholbachshould I? :)07:47
MTecknologyI'm trying to compile an Ubuntu kernel that's less than 2.5MB, prefere 2.107:48
MTecknologybut still giving me a fully usable system07:48
dholbachno no no no no no no07:48
dholbachI stopped building kernels like 5-6 years ago07:48
dholbachI'm happy thanks :)07:48
MTecknologyso far my .config is ~50% the ubuntu .config07:49
MTecknologybut - I don't have ext2,3, btrfs, etc. support. Only ntfs, fat, and ext407:49
dholbachgood luck07:51
MTecknology:P - thanks07:53
MTecknologyDo you know if there's much difference between vanilla kernel and ubuntu kernel branches aside from .configs?07:54
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leaf-sheepHello, I'm wondering if I can request for a package to be updated? It have been long time since it got updated.09:41
azeemis it updated in Debian?09:41
leaf-sheepazeem: I don't know. I'll try and find out.09:42
leaf-sheepazeem: Ubuntu + Debian --> Same package version.  I'm talking about the package -- cgoban09:43
wrapsteri have a tar file which contains only libraries that needs to sit in the /usr/include dir...09:44
wrapsterusing this can i create a .deb pkg?09:44
wrapsterits urgent could you please help me?09:44
azeemlibraries don't sit in /usr/include09:45
leaf-sheepazeem: http://www.gokgs.com/download.jsp09:48
leaf-sheepazeem: It's at 3.3.26 -- I take it that it won't be updated until Debain do that?09:49
azeemleaf-sheep: well, if it was updated in Debian, it would automatically get updated in Ubuntu once karmic is released09:51
leaf-sheepazeem: Is there a particular debian-motu channel that I can request in?09:52
azeemno, you can file a wishlist bug in the Debian bug tracker after checking whether there is one already09:53
leaf-sheepazeem: I see. I'll do that.  Thank you. :)09:54
wrapsterazeem: sorry ... its header files.09:54
wrapsterthis tarball only contains headerfiles that need to be in the above metioned dir.. i have a tar ball of it.. how can i create a pkg out of it..09:55
wrapsterhow do i use the debhelper scripts?09:55
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wrapsterwhys is it that mkdir -p debian/mpsnexenta/usr/include/mps11:11
wrapster        tar -C debian/mpsnexenta/usr/include/mps -zxf ../mps.tar.gz11:11
wrapsterif included in the rules file is creating something like this /usr/include/mps/usr/include/mps/11:12
walterlpython packagers: have anyone else run into the problem of data files being installed in dist-packages and source being installed in site-packages, causing pbuilder build to barf?11:15
geserwrapster: do the files inside your mps.tar.gz contain a path?11:31
wrapstergeser: yeah.. and i resolved it.11:31
wrapstergeser: that was infact the issue11:31
sebnerhuhu mok0 sistpoty|work :D11:56
sistpoty|workhi sebner11:56
norax_I am trying to look for a FTBFS bug, but http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20090909-karmic.html seems fallen. Any other list?12:11
norax_ok. http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/  I hadn't seen the topic.12:13
wgrantnorax_: Sorry - the Launchpad issues earlier made it a bit angry. Fixing now.12:15
wektwhere do bug reports on the 'alternative' debian install program go?  package debian-installer seems to be something different according to the description.12:23
dholbachwekt: that depends on which part of it is failing - the people in #ubuntu-installer will know12:27
wekti think that puts me 1 step closer12:28
LordMetroidWhy was ibus choosen?12:41
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LordMetroidIt lacks functionality, the katakana, hiragana, romaji change key for once doesn't seem to work12:41
LordMetroidHmm, maybe I am at the wrong place for these comments12:42
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james_wScottK: did you decide on a date for final freeze for universe?13:17
james_wScottK: if so then I think announcing it on the list would be a good idea to alleviate some panic today :-)13:18
james_w(apologies if you have and I missed it)13:18
directhexgive me until this evening - banshee 1.5.1 is finally out ;)13:18
ScottKjames_w: Good suggestion.  It'll be after the RC is out, so no need for people to panic.  I need to email the other motu-release people and get the exact time decided.13:23
james_wScottK: great, thanks13:23
sistpoty|workScottK: how about somewhen around 25th?13:41
siretart`is that the release date?13:42
sistpoty|worksiretart`: no, release is 29th13:42
siretart`oh, ok13:42
sistpoty|workfinalfreeze is just needing an ACK for each upload13:43
bdrung_sistpoty|work: from whom?13:45
sistpoty|workbdrung_: universe: motu-release13:46
bdrung_sistpoty|work: i wanted to hear irc nick names. :) seams so that you are on the list13:47
sistpoty|workbdrung_: that would be ScottK, iulian, vorian, nhandler and myself13:48
bdrung_sistpoty|work: eclipse-cdt is totally outdated and does not work. is it possible to upload a new upstream release after final freeze?13:49
siretart`bdrung_: do you manage to have a look at the mplayer-skin mess?13:49
bdrung_siretart: sorry, no. maybe it works if mplayer-skins provides mplayer-skin (note: missing s)13:50
bdrung_siretart: rl and eclipse consumes too much time.13:50
sistpoty|workbdrung_: I must admit that I'd prefer to have it done before final freeze (universe isn't final frozen yet)13:51
bdrung_sistpoty|work: there is only one problem: it's not packaged yet.13:52
sistpoty|workbdrung_: then get working on it ;)13:52
bdrung_sistpoty|work: we are still working on eclipse itself (will hopefully upload it today)13:53
sistpoty|workah, k13:53
siretart`bdrung_: I don't think it's that easy :(13:53
siretart`but ok13:53
bdrung_siretart: cdt will probably easier than eclipse sdk.13:54
bdrung_sistpoty|work: we have to remove eclipse-cdt from the archive if we do not manage it to update the package13:55
sistpoty|workbdrung_: hm...13:56
joaopintoeclipse right now does not allow to install plugins, or how do you call it on eclipse :P13:56
bdrung_joaopinto: i will upload -0ubuntu3 which fixes this13:57
joaopintobdrung, great :)13:57
bdrung_joaopinto: but there may be another issue...13:59
bdrung_with some md5sums13:59
ScottKsistpoty|work: I do think we want cdt updated if it's packaged.14:13
sistpoty|workScottK: *nod*, the sooner the better14:16
joaopintohum, did anyone test run grnotify before introducing it into the repository ?14:29
james_wjoaopinto: bug 413816 or bug 370524? :-)14:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 413816 in grnotify "[karmic] grnotify fails to install" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41381614:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 370524 in grnotify "GrNotify doesn't start due to module import error" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37052414:34
joaopintojames_w, a new one, the source seems broken to me14:36
james_wdoes it need more bugs? :-)14:36
james_wfailing to install and failing to start would seem to be enough14:36
joaopintoit fails to install due to a python-xml dependency14:37
joaopintoit will install and run without it14:38
james_wwell it sounds like it doesn't follow the python policy correctly14:38
joaopintoAttributeError: 'grnotify' object has no attribute 'getUnreadFeeds'14:39
joaopintonow it misses a method definition14:39
jdonginstall: build14:41
jdong    python install.py local14:41
jdongthe heck??14:42
jdongare we remotely supposed to package Python stuff this way?14:42
jdongwell I suppose it was initially packaged for Jaunty14:43
jdongmust've worked back then14:43
joaopintoit does not run from a jaunty schroot14:43
jdonglol ok then no more inventing excuses for the packager.14:44
joaopintoand I dond't understand how it ever run anywhere, getUnreadFeeds is not on the upstream source tarball either14:46
joaopintooh wait, there is a getUnreadFeeds on GoogleReader.py14:47
joaopintourllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 401: Unauthorized14:53
sistpoty|workhm... maybe we should remove it? doesn't look like there's upstream activity any longer14:56
joaopintoI am trying to fix it but I will probably give up :P15:00
joaopintofor some reason it is not sending the cookies received from the login method15:02
joaopintoi's just trying to fetch https://www.google.com/reader/api/0/unread-count?all=true15:03
joaopintoanyone experienced with urllib2 and cookies :P ?15:05
ScottKiulian, vorian, nhandler, sistpoty|work: You have mail.15:05
sistpoty|workhm... only spam so far /me waits a little bit longer until the carrier pidgeon arrives15:07
* iulian is waiting as well.15:08
ScottKSent it to your ubuntu.com addresses, so Canonical may take a little while to forward it on.15:08
ScottKI checked my mail logs and they accepted it.15:09
sistpoty|workwell, it's a long way, so... *g*15:10
iulianIndeed. :)15:10
* sistpoty|work looks at the glassbowl and assumes the mail will be there in ~2 minutes15:12
iulianAh-ha! It has just arrived.15:17
bddebianHeya gang15:38
sistpoty|workhi bddebian15:39
sebnerhuhu bddebian :D15:40
bddebianHi sistpoty|work, sebner15:40
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juinHi :) I'm co-developer of the game "Plee the Bear". I've seen that the version of the package in Karmic is 0.2.1 but we have uploader version 0.4.1 in Debian a few weeks ago. Is there a chance to have 0.4.1 included in Karmic?17:09
randomaction!FFe | juin17:18
ubottujuin: uvf is Upstream Version Freeze.  For an exception, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess17:18
joaopintojuin, als you want to request  a sync from debian17:18
randomactionjuin: today is a last day before FinalFreeze17:18
joaopintoit is ??17:19
joaopintofor universe ?17:20
Laneyfor main and restricted17:20
sistpoty|workno, universe finalfreeze deadline is still being discussed17:20
joaopintook :P17:20
randomactionah, sorry17:21
randomactiontoday's u-d-a mail didn't make it totally clear for me17:21
Laneythere was a link to some old information for universe17:21
Laney. o O ( should motu-release re-publish and update these documents each release?)17:22
juinI did not find on the website of Ubuntu when the syncs from Debian occur, do you have a link for me?17:22
joaopintojuin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess17:23
* sistpoty|work heads home... cya17:24
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Zhenechupsala :)18:03
sebnerScottK: do you know anything about a FFe for smuxi aka not needing one?18:04
ScottKsebner: Is there a bug?18:04
sebnerScottK: nope, bugfix (only?) release only18:05
ScottKsebner: Then it doesn't need an FFe is it's bugfix only.18:05
sebnerScottK: http://projects.qnetp.net/versions/show/918:05
ScottKsebner: I'll trust your judgement of if it's bugfix only18:06
sebnerScottK: fine. thx18:07
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fabrice_sprandomaction, ping19:36
randomactionfabrice_sp: hi19:36
fabrice_spHi :-)19:36
fabrice_spI was having a look at bug #451332 and it seems that Debian already fixed the same bug in the next version of the package. Did you ahd a look at it?19:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 451332 in kpowersave "kpowersave 0.7.3-4ubuntu1 FTBFS with autoconf 2.64" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45133219:37
randomactionno, but I should have :(19:38
randomactionI think it's better to sync19:39
fabrice_spyes :-)19:39
fabrice_spit's not really a sync, I think that it seems some kubuntu patch has been there for a while, so perhaps it should be kept19:39
fabrice_spwe can also 'import' the debian patch, and say that it comes for there in the changelog, and make easier the merger life in next merge :-)19:40
randomactionah, we also have a kubuntu-specific patch.19:41
ScottKI'm gong to look at that19:42
randomactionshall I transform it into a merge request?19:42
ScottKLet me look at that patch first19:43
fabrice_spSuper ScottK comes to the rescue :-)19:44
ScottKfabrice_sp and randomaction: The patch can be dropped now that kpowersave is in Universe.19:45
randomactionwow, it's from April 2004 :)19:46
fabrice_spso it can be a sync request, then. I'll test build the Debian package19:46
randomactionok, thanks fabrice_sp and ScottK19:46
fabrice_sprandomaction, you take care of updating the bug report?19:47
randomactionok, just will test-build first19:47
randomactionfabrice_sp: updated20:01
fabrice_sprandomaction, ok. Can you just add the changelog entries since the actual version? This way, we will justify this sync :-)20:02
randomactionDone. I'm no replacement to requestsync :)20:04
fabrice_spyou can run requestsync, and paste the output, withotu send it ;-)20:09
leonelcan someone check bug 446838 if I've made the diffs  correct ??  thank  you20:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 446838 in squirrelmail "Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44683820:25
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sebnerjono \o/22:51
mrooney|wAre there specific rules for compiled things in a source package? For example if the normal distribution method for a certain Java package is shipping a .war file, can a .deb just ship the war and appropriate init scripts to make deployment more automated?23:06
mrooney|wObviously, it is possible to do that, for clarity my question is, can a package in say, universe do this23:08
ScottKNot knowing anything about Java stuff, is a .war file the preferred form for modification?23:09
mrooney|wScottK: no that is the problem, it is basically a compiled Java package23:11
ScottKmrooney|w: Then no.23:11
ScottKIt would need to go in multiverse23:11
ScottKLicensing would need to allow redistribution.23:11
mrooney|wI see, even if it points to the source which is properly licensed?23:12
ScottKYes, even if.23:12
directhexmrooney|w, then the package can compile the .war at compile time, to build the deb23:12
ScottKThe source needs to be in the source package and the binary needs to be built from that source23:12
directhexthe only time it's acceptable to ship binaries in "source packages" is for bootstrapping (e.g. a c compiler is needed to compile a c compiler). this doesn't come under that heading23:13
mrooney|wI see, okay.23:13
ScottKAnd that's only OK as a temporary measure until you can upload one built from source.23:14
ScottKWe could never release with that.23:14
mrooney|wI see, apparently it is challenging to build maven-based software according to debian policy, so that is why I was asking23:14
directhexmaven is indeed troublesome, afaik23:15
mrooney|wSo I guess PPA or multiverse are the best options?23:16
directhexthere's one reason for mono adoption: our tools as packagers suck less23:16
mrooney|whaha, maven is actually pretty awesome23:16
directhexsays the guy eyeing up multiverse!23:17
mrooney|whaha, it makes it super trivial to build23:17
mrooney|wnot trivial to satisfy debian policy23:17
mrooney|woh well, thanks for the advice, now I know the options :)23:17

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