[01:43] <kenvandine> av`, we will want one :)
[01:43] <kenvandine> thx
[07:26] <mac_v> asac: ping.. ;) ... last day for changes... is the gnome-bluetooth[ubuntu] being updated?
[07:27] <eagles0513875> mac_v: pong :P
[07:27] <mac_v> lol ;)
[07:29] <eagles0513875> how goes it mac_v
[07:30] <eagles0513875> starting my morning off reading about data bases lol
[07:31] <mac_v> eagles0513875: bah , nothing much... the UX guys want the humanity icon changes by today... so getting things done asap ;)  and it was fun with the U1 wrongly tagging all files/folders  as U1synchronized ;p
[07:32] <eagles0513875> hehe sounds like fun im reading for my course about databases at the moment
[07:32] <eagles0513875> and i still need to finish verifying the flipping bind wood extensions but am swamped with stuff for my coursse
[08:57] <asac> mac_v: no on my list for today
[08:58] <micahg> asac: when's the final day to get something into karmic?
[08:58] <micahg> low priority...
[08:58] <micahg> asac: bug 411691
[08:59] <asac> micahg: today ;)
[08:59] <micahg> ugh
[08:59] <|eagles0513875|> morning asac and micahg
[09:00] <asac> hi
[09:00] <asac> micahg: you think we need to fix update.locale?
[09:00] <|eagles0513875|> how goes it
[09:01] <asac> let me check what that update.locale thing actualyl does
[09:01] <micahg> asac: there were 2 options, one was to touch the file, the second was to remove locale from the update string
[09:01] <micahg> we don't use it
[09:01] <micahg> it shouldn't be firing since we have disabled the updater
[09:01] <micahg> but it was a bug
[09:01] <mac_v> asac: when will the bluetooth be fixed? could you pls do it today... thats probably the last of the fixes needed for humanity
[09:01] <micahg> fixed in 3.6+
[09:02] <micahg> he said he would fix it maybe on 3.5
[09:02] <micahg> but I figure at this point we can't wait
[09:02] <micahg> and should add a patch to temporarily fix it
[09:03] <micahg> asac: If I commit something later this morning, could you still get it in?
[09:03] <micahg> or rather propose a merge
[09:03] <mac_v> asac: since its gonna be in RC , could you consider a few mins for this :)
[09:07] <asac> mac_v: its on my list for today .... :)
[09:08] <mac_v> asac: wohooo.. ! thanks :)
[09:08] <asac> and there might be another chance next monday
[09:08] <asac> new gnome tarballs coming
[09:08] <asac> but i definitly will do that today
[09:09]  * asac gest cofffee
[09:09] <micahg> asac: I'll be back in about 7 hours
[09:13] <asac> micahg: i will check the update.locale touch
[09:13] <asac> will upload ffox today maybe i can take that
[09:13] <asac> thx
[09:13] <micahg> asac: I would suggest a patch for the locale string instead
[09:13] <micahg> since it shouldn't be a problem on future releases
[09:13] <micahg> why should we create another file for no reason
[09:14] <asac> micahg: i am not sure yet. have to check what its use is ;)
[09:14] <asac> micahg: is there a patch somewhere?
[09:15] <micahg> I can make one :)
[09:16] <asac> micahg: talk to you in 7 hours then. i will check and then we can decide
[09:16] <asac> ;)
[09:17] <micahg> asac: here's the conversation I had with rs in the mozilla dev channel: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/292975/
[09:17]  * micahg is off to sleep
[09:35] <av`> kenvandine, I'll be busy the whole day, open a bug, attach a debdiff and assign it to me, when I get back home I gonna process it
[09:35] <av`> kenvandine, so we make it before the tomorrow's freeze
[09:35] <av`> :)
[09:54] <asac> mac_v: sorry that i asked you three times now, but what was the upstream bug id for the icon change? making a list so i dont forget to take anything
[09:56] <mac_v> asac: lp > Bug #437162  ... gbo > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=596564
[10:01] <asac> thx
[10:01] <asac> added
[10:11] <asac> fta: wow. we got merge request on chromium parts ;)
[10:11] <asac> lets party
[15:03] <jdstrand> asac: hi! have another merge request for you (https://code.launchpad.net/~jdstrand/firefox/firefox-449286/+merge/13344)
[15:03] <jdstrand> asac: it's not critical, but would be nice
[15:05] <rbelem> asac, ping
[15:06] <rbelem> asac, firefox still with extensions problems :-/
[15:12] <rbelem> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/293159/
[15:40] <asac> jdstrand: can you include the ubuntu-bug one we talked about ?
[15:40] <asac> that would help me ;)
[15:40] <asac> as i wouldnt have to test
[15:44] <jdstrand> asac: ok
[15:44] <asac> rbelem: i sthatjust and error or are you having any symptoms?
[15:44] <asac> jdstrand: i will do an upload later tonight.
[15:44] <asac> thx
[15:45] <asac> jdstrand: what is "k" access?
[15:46] <jdstrand> asac: locking
[15:46] <rbelem> asac, the symptom is that plugins do not load
[15:46] <asac> jdstrand: you added "k" to the .sqlite in that merge ;)
[15:47] <asac> rbelem: plugins? you mean extensions?
[15:47] <rbelem> ops...
[15:47] <rbelem> asac, yep extensions
[15:47] <jdstrand> asac: it should be:
[15:47] <jdstrand> -  @{HOME}/.mozilla/**/*.sqlite k,
[15:47] <jdstrand> +  @{HOME}/.mozilla/**/*.sqlite* k,
[15:48] <jdstrand> asac: we had sqlite before, but I changed that to sqlite*, since the zotero extension uses ...sqlite.tmp
[15:48] <asac> jdstrand: ok. but what does "k" mean? lock?
[15:48] <asac> hmm ok
[15:48] <jdstrand> asac: yes, lock
[15:48] <asac> zotero?
[15:48] <asac> what is zotero?
[15:49] <asac> why does it use .tmp :(
[15:49] <jdstrand> http://www.zotero.org/
[15:49] <asac> maybe thats something we want to break ;)
[15:49] <asac> anyway. i think looks good
[15:49] <jdstrand> heh
[15:49] <asac> if you could add the ubuntu-bug execute/read permission that owuld be perfect ;)
[15:51] <asac> jdstrand: bug 433128 and bug 449423
[15:51] <asac> the former is fixed?
[15:53] <jdstrand> asac: you committed my merge already for ubuntu4
[15:54] <jdstrand> asac: bzr diff -r 471..472
[16:02] <asac> jdstrand: ok so that will happen in that upload. great.
[16:03] <asac> rbelem: system installed plugins do not load? or nothing new?
[16:03] <asac> do you always get "restart required" i nthe tools -> addons dialog?
[16:04] <rbelem> asac, yup, do not load and always shows  "restart required"
[16:07] <asac> very good
[16:07] <asac> rbelem: please backup your .mozilla thing so it stays reproducible
[16:07] <asac> rbelem: go to about:config and enable extension manager logging
[16:07] <asac> extensions.logging.enabled
[16:07] <asac> thats the key
[16:07] <asac> start firefox and tell me what you see
[16:07] <rbelem> asac, ok
[16:11] <jdstrand> asac: ok, implemented and tested fix for bug #449423. merge request in https://code.launchpad.net/~jdstrand/firefox/firefox-449423/+merge/13349
[16:12] <asac> tx
[16:12] <jdstrand> sure
[16:14] <rbelem> asac, the output after the logging enabled http://paste.ubuntu.com/293185/
[16:16] <asac> very good
[16:16] <asac> rbelem: what package version installed?
[16:17] <rbelem> asac, ii  firefox-3.5                                3.5.3+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu3
[16:19] <rbelem> asac, i have to go. i will come back in one hour and half
[16:19] <rbelem> asac, thx a lot
[16:21] <asac> rbelem: thx. i have to give you a few things to test so we can track this down.
[16:22] <asac> i made  patch whih i know works, but upstream wasnt happy because it was too dirty, so i appreciate that you see this now and can help ;)
[16:32] <asac> rbelem: in /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.3/components there is an nsExtensionManager.js ... please copy that somewher ein your home and replace it with this file: http://people.canonical.com/~asac/tmp/nsExtensionManager.js.1
[16:32] <asac> then post the logging output again
[16:59] <bdrung> asac: what's the progress of bug 445899?
[17:04] <asac> jdstrand: ^^ you think you can kick that off?
[17:04] <asac> its a bug fix only release ;)
[17:04] <asac> well ... slight adjustment  ;)
[17:05] <jdstrand> asac: sure. can you add a comment saying it is ok?
[17:06] <asac> didn i open it?
[17:06] <asac> ;)
[17:06] <asac> done
[17:06] <jdstrand> asac: it is listed as Denjamin Drung
[17:06] <asac> jdstrand: ^
[17:06] <jdstrand> ok cool
[17:07] <asac> thx a bunch
[17:07] <bdrung> asac: i was faster than you? ;)
[17:07] <asac> bdrung: i will work all night today and do all the extensions not yet done
[17:07] <asac> from the wiki page ;)
[17:07] <bdrung> asac: wow, thanks
[17:07] <asac> if you want to upload a bunch too, just go ahead ;)
[17:07] <asac> well thats my goal
[17:07] <asac> if i dont make all ... ;)
[17:08] <asac> hmm. seems that wiki page was not full filled for a bunch of extension at the bottom
[17:08] <bdrung> asac: i have eclipse to release (and stand up tomorrow very early - that's against the 'genfer konvention')
[17:08] <asac> haha
[17:08] <asac> ok
[17:09] <asac> in cae you want light food with upload credits, extensions are your way to go :)
[17:09] <asac> i usually like doing simple stuff while doing big stuff ;)
[17:09] <bdrung> ;)
[17:10] <bdrung> asac: let me do some merges
[17:10] <asac> merges?
[17:11] <jdstrand> asac: done
[17:13] <jdstrand> asac: one last merge for you: https://code.launchpad.net/~jdstrand/firefox/firefox-439484/+merge/13355
[17:13] <jdstrand> asac: again, not critical, but simple and would be nice
[17:16] <bdrung> asac: av` and me have made some packages policy compatible in debian.
[17:17] <asac> please use the branches ;)
[17:17] <asac> then there is not much need to merge right?
[17:17] <asac> rather sync
[17:17] <asac> bdrung: are the merges on that extensionreview list?
[17:17] <asac> so i dont do them while you merge ;)
[17:18] <bdrung> asac: we do not rename the packages to xul-ext -> mergo
[17:18] <bdrung> asac: they are not special marked. let me see...
[17:18] <asac> imo that rename shouldnt have happened in debian alone
[17:18] <asac> yes, please put you in the assignee row for those
[17:19] <eagles0513875> asac: is there a deadline for the extensions
[17:19] <asac> yes... last week
[17:19] <eagles0513875> :L(
[17:19] <eagles0513875> :(
[17:19] <asac> we will do just whats left now .... done
[17:19] <asac> next cycle is another chance
[17:19] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok
[17:19] <eagles0513875> :( well bind wood is ready just few things i need to finish up
[17:22] <av`> eagles0513875, I've heard this latest phrase like 200 times now
[17:23] <eagles0513875> :(
[17:23] <av`> if I get logs I think I can write a book with all these phrases
[17:23] <eagles0513875> i guess im not cut out to be a dev :(
[17:24] <jcastro> don't let it get you down, freezes cut everyone!
[17:24] <bdrung> eagles0513875: m-d 0.17 will tell you if you made a packaging mistake
[17:24] <asac> eagles0513875: watch commits we do to the extension branches
[17:24] <asac> and try to learn from that
[17:24] <eagles0513875> asac: i dunno how much i would learn i actually learn from trying
[17:25] <eagles0513875> jcastro: i just feel like i havent had give enough time to bind wood extension i was working on
[17:25] <asac> eagles0513875: then try to replay the stuff we do locally
[17:25] <asac> e.g. look what was done
[17:25] <asac> uncommit it locally
[17:25] <asac> then do it on your own ;)
[17:25] <eagles0513875> you know what i will probably finish that up this evening once i finish printing these notes
[17:25] <asac> whatever, do it as an excersize
[17:25] <av`> eagles0513875, bindwood package is easy and it's like 3 weeks you're working on it
[17:26] <asac> we will do that on the branch and then you can compare if you did the same
[17:26] <asac> that gives you feedback on what you did
[17:26] <eagles0513875> av`: i have started lecutres and im still trying to get back into a routine
[17:26] <av`> eagles0513875, I'm at university and I have plenty of stuff to study
[17:26] <av`> plus lessons, and many more stuff
[17:27] <av`> so if you don't wanna learn just say so
[17:27] <eagles0513875> i do
[17:27] <eagles0513875> i love linux i love the kubuntu community
[17:27] <eagles0513875> i have tried other distros and always end up back on kubuntu
[17:27] <eagles0513875> so something is being done right here
[17:28] <av`> I keep hoping that what ikonia said is not true
[17:28] <eagles0513875> i admit time management is what i lack
[17:28] <eagles0513875> well i did and completed the first task asac assigned me
[17:29] <asac> eagles0513875: yes. thats ok
[17:29] <asac> i dont think you lack the willingness to work
[17:29] <asac> i am not yet sure what blocks you. i dont think its time
[17:29] <asac> its probably just the way you approach stuff
[17:30] <asac> like: if you do something ... finish it with all the work required and then do something else
[17:30] <asac> often its harder to start to do things then to think about starting it
[17:30] <eagles0513875> asac: its time management i need to come up with a schedule that works for me in regards to helping out here and with studies
[17:30] <asac> so take 1h ... do the task
[17:30] <asac> done
[17:30] <asac> eagles0513875: right. but you chat enough to have that time ;)
[17:30] <eagles0513875> true
[17:30] <asac> so time management might be a general issue ;) ... but i don think its the problem for this
[17:31] <asac> its really the way you approach things ... like not-getting-started
[17:31] <eagles0513875> will get onto finishing bindwood after i print out my notes
[17:31] <asac> open the editr... just do it (TM) ;)
[17:31] <asac> rather than thinking 30 minutes if you have enough time to do it ;)
[17:31] <eagles0513875> asac: and also i would help out at school but problem there is all downloads are blocked
[17:31] <asac> you can branch stuff before that
[17:31] <asac> work while you are bored
[17:31] <eagles0513875> ya
[17:31] <asac> and push when you get home
[17:32] <asac> no need to download anyting during extension stuff
[17:32]  * eagles0513875 makes note to self about branching before leaving the house
[17:33] <eagles0513875> i got the i think i can mentality running through my head right now
[17:40] <eagles0513875> av`: and asac working on bindwood now finishing up the testing of it
[17:42]  * eagles0513875 gets down to finishing up bindwood
[17:44] <eagles0513875> •	remove unzip from Build-Depends, if there is no direct unzip call in debian/rules
[17:44] <eagles0513875> •	remove zip from Build-Depends, if there is no direct zip call in debian/rules
[17:44] <eagles0513875>  
[17:44] <eagles0513875> asac: what do those mean
[17:46] <eagles0513875> anyone can answer that question for that matter doesnt have to be asac
[17:48] <av`> 'if there is no direct unzip call in debian/rules' says it
[17:49] <eagles0513875> does that have something to do with packaging or something?
[17:49] <av`> ?
[17:52] <av`> eagles0513875, debian/rules is something related to packaging,
[17:52] <av`> ye
[17:52] <av`> s
[17:52] <eagles0513875> av`: just trying to understand the meaning behind some of the things im doing
[17:52] <eagles0513875> ill be right back and continue
[17:53] <eagles0513875> bout ready to make another push with some improvements such as updated email from motu email to devel email and some other things
[17:53] <av`> great
[17:53] <eagles0513875> av`: actually do have some other questions to throw out there but at the moment i have to run some where :)
[17:53] <eagles0513875> av`: you asac and bdrug have motivated me actually
[17:54] <eagles0513875> if you av` can do it and study so can i
[17:54] <av`> let's hope it's true
[17:54] <av`> ;)
[17:54] <bdrung> my name is still not 'drug' ;)
[17:54] <eagles0513875> i should be able to churn out god willing one extension a day
[17:54] <av`> lol
[17:54] <eagles0513875> sry bdrung
[17:54] <av`> ahahah
[17:54] <av`> b - drug
[17:54] <eagles0513875> i type faster then i read and fail to use tab completion
[17:55] <eagles0513875> av`: ill pastbinit my control file to see if everything ok looks ok to u with some more of the changes i have made
[17:55] <eagles0513875> be back in a few
[17:55] <av`> k, cool
[17:55] <av`> k
[18:06] <jagadeesh> in thread mode in thunderbird, how can I jump to unread email?
[18:08] <jagadeesh> in thread mode in thunderbird, how can I jump to unread email?
[18:11] <Mook_sb> "n", I think?
[18:11] <Mook_sb> (Go -> Next -> Unread message)
[18:15] <bdrung> asac: that's the list: http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=sid&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=xul-ext
[18:28] <rbelem> asac, i'm back
[18:32] <fta> jcastro, what happened to the archive reorg? i answered some questions from colin & daniel a few weeks ago, no news since
[18:33] <eagles0513875> av`: im back
[18:34] <eagles0513875> let me pastbinit my control file and let me know what u think
[18:34] <jcastro> fta: I haven't been tracking what's going on with that
[18:34] <av`> fta, cjwatson gonna send more mails soon
[18:34] <av`> fta, after uds I guess
[18:34] <av`> karmic needs to go out
[18:34] <av`> then there is time for that
[18:35] <eagles0513875> av`: http://pastebin.comf17de408c
[18:35] <eagles0513875> let me know how it looks i have 2 things that need to be gone through or added in that file
[18:39] <eagles0513875> av`: can i push those changes i have made even though its bout 3 things or so
[19:06] <eagles0513875> av`: you had a chance to look at my paste prior to me pushing some more changes i have made
[19:10] <fta> i want the icons in firefox back
[19:13] <eagles0513875> which icons fta
[19:13] <fta> in the bookmarks toolbar
[19:13] <eagles0513875> ahhh
[19:14] <fta> oh, they are back
[19:14] <eagles0513875> hehe
[19:14] <eagles0513875> asac or bdrung you guys in the office or out of the office
[19:14] <fta> they were gone for ~a week
[19:14] <eagles0513875> dunno m8
[19:15] <bdrung> eagles0513875: i was here (but busy with various things)
[19:16] <eagles0513875> bdrung: would you mind taking a quick look at my control file to make sure everythign except for 2 things is there before i push
[19:16] <bdrung> eagles0513875: 1. do you call zip in debian/rules?
[19:17] <eagles0513875> neither zip or unzip in debian/rules
[19:17] <bdrung> eagles0513875: 2. the Provides, Depends, and Enhances missing
[19:18] <bdrung> eagles0513875: 3. xpi:Depends was renamed to xpi:Recommends (-> bump m-d to >= 0.16~)
[19:18] <bdrung> eagles0513875: 1. then remove zip from Build-Depends
[19:19] <eagles0513875> didnt i already do the recommends and bumped the m-d to 0.16~
[19:20] <bdrung> ups, you bumped it already
[19:20] <bdrung> eagles0513875: you have 'Recommends: ${xpi:Depends}'
[19:20] <eagles0513875> isnt that right cuz there are other packages under depends
[19:21] <eagles0513875> couchdb and python-desktopcouch
[19:21] <bdrung> ?
[19:22] <bdrung> you should add ${misc:Depends} to Depends
[19:22] <eagles0513875> then what happens to those dependences which are listed under depends?
[19:24] <bdrung> eagles0513875: they stay there
[19:24] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok so will add misc:depends to that
[19:24] <bdrung> yes
[19:24] <bdrung> with the ${}
[19:25] <asac> rbelem: id you try?
[19:25] <asac> did
[19:25] <eagles0513875> bdrung: other then that everythign else ok
[19:26] <bdrung> yes, it looks good
[19:26] <asac> 17:32 < asac> rbelem: in /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.3/components there is an nsExtensionManager.js ... please copy that somewher ein your home and replace it with this file:  http://people.canonical.com/~asac/tmp/nsExtensionManager.js.1
[19:26] <eagles0513875> :) making another push now then :)
[19:28] <eagles0513875> im getting an interesting error about paths are not versioned so i couldnt commit my changes :(
[19:28] <bdrung> ?
[19:29] <eagles0513875> im running bzr commit and then the link to my branch that im working on
[19:29] <eagles0513875> so i can push it
[19:32] <eagles0513875> what am i doing wrong here
[19:36] <eagles0513875> this is a strange error im trying to commit changes as i made an addition to the change long but im getting something about paths not versioned error
[19:38]  * eagles0513875 starts banging head on desk
[19:41] <eagles0513875> bdrung: what am i doing wrong in regards to committing changes im missing a step just dont know what
[19:41] <bdrung> eagles0513875: cd into your bzr directory and run 'bzr ci' there
[19:42] <eagles0513875> i knew i was missing something
[19:42] <bdrung> ;)
[19:42] <eagles0513875> thanks :)
[19:42] <eagles0513875> well those changes have been pushed
[19:42] <bdrung> link
[19:42] <bdrung> ?
[19:43] <eagles0513875> hold on a sec
[19:44] <eagles0513875> bdrung: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/firefox-extensions
[19:44] <rbelem> asac, firefox dies with the new file
[19:44] <eagles0513875> whoops that didnt copy right bdmurray
[19:44] <eagles0513875> damn i cant type tonight and im uber tab completion failure
[19:44] <eagles0513875> bdrung: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~eagles051387/firefox-extensions/bindwood.ubuntu.lp425631
[19:45] <eagles0513875> re packaging and goign ot reinstall it and retest to see if it works with 3.5
[19:45] <bdrung> eagles0513875: über is written with 'ü' ;)
[19:45] <eagles0513875> ?
[19:45] <rbelem> asac, i copied the http://people.canonical.com/~asac/tmp/nsExtensionManager.js.1 to /usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.1.3/components/nsExtensionManager.js
[19:45] <eagles0513875> im getting jibberish here bdrung
[19:46] <eagles0513875> über is written with 'ü :P
[19:46] <bdrung> eagles0513875: Depends is a _comma_ separated list
[19:47] <eagles0513875> doh
[19:49] <eagles0513875> bdrung: how can i push it since i didnt make any changes to the change log cuz im getting an error when i do about versioned and not versioned again
[19:50] <eagles0513875> i tried adding a line then removing it then running bzr ci to commit it again but i couldnt push it :(
[19:51] <bdrung> eagles0513875: 'bzr push' does not work? are you in the correct directory?
[19:51] <eagles0513875> doh
[19:51] <eagles0513875> lol
[19:52] <eagles0513875> im still getting the error about uncommited changes
[19:52] <eagles0513875> i just want to push a minor update with out bumping out the revision since all i did was add a comma
[19:52] <bdrung> eagles0513875: 'bzr st' and 'bzr cdiff' are your friends.
[19:52] <eagles0513875> what does st do and cdiff
[19:52] <eagles0513875> and whats the diff between the 2
[19:53] <bdrung> st = status
[19:53] <bdrung> cdiff = colored diff
[19:54] <eagles0513875> the only thing that changed is a comma after python-desktopcouch
[19:55] <bdrung> gimme the error log
[19:57] <eagles0513875> bzr: ERROR WOrking tree "/home/jonathan/bindwood.ubuntu" has uncommitted changes
[19:57] <eagles0513875> the only uncommitted changes is in debian/control
[19:57] <eagles0513875> even when i run bzr status thats only thing that shows modified
[19:59] <bdrung> eagles0513875: you should commit it then: bzr ci
[20:00] <eagles0513875> i havent made any changes to the changelog it shows up blank and then when i try to save the changes and commit it doesnt cuz its blank
[20:00] <bdrung> eagles0513875: what does bzr diff show?
[20:01] <eagles0513875> only the debian/control file has been modified
[20:02] <bdrung> eagles0513875: running bzr ci and add describe your changes (e.g. 'added missing comma'), save and exit
[20:03] <bdrung> and then push it
[20:03] <eagles0513875> bdrung: is that necessary to document though
[20:04] <bdrung> eagles0513875: yes, every commit needs a comment (otherwise it will be aborted)
[20:05] <eagles0513875> ok
[20:06] <eagles0513875> rebuilding to test with ff
[20:07] <eagles0513875> bdrung: changes committed and pushed reinstalling to test
[20:08] <eagles0513875> strange gdebinstall is crashing O_o
[20:15] <eagles0513875> bdrung: thanks for your patience with me this evening :)
[20:17] <bdrung> yw
[20:17] <eagles0513875> thing i need food this evening im famished
[20:18] <eagles0513875> but then again want to stay here and finish bindwood
[20:18] <eagles0513875> so asac could merge it tomorrow
[20:18] <bdrung> eagles0513875: 2. the Provides, and Enhances missing1. then remove zip from Build-Depends
[20:19] <bdrung> tbd
[20:19] <eagles0513875> zip and unzip were never there to begin with
[20:19] <bdrung> ?
[20:19] <eagles0513875> tbd = to be done
[20:20] <eagles0513875> bah im getting myself confused zip and unzip in debian/rules before
[20:20] <eagles0513875> im just going through this one step at a time copied all the points into a word document and as i complete them delete them so i know what i have done
[20:31] <LLStarks> micahg. sup.
[20:31] <micahg> hi LLStarks
[20:32] <LLStarks> i'm not sure why you need a screenshot for that bug i filed.
[20:32] <LLStarks> it's fitt's law.
[20:32] <LLStarks> there is not enough separate in terms of pixels.
[20:32] <micahg> LLStarks: I don't see the issue, when the menu is open, it's open
[20:32] <micahg> are you using the standard icon set?
[20:32] <LLStarks> yes.
[20:32] <micahg> the back button should be big enough
[20:32] <LLStarks> and i've triggered the bug 12 times today.
[20:33] <micahg> I'm using the smaller icons and I don't have the issue
[20:33] <LLStarks> stupid bot.
[20:33] <LLStarks> what icon set?
[20:33] <eagles0513875> heheh
[20:34]  * eagles0513875 wonders what would happen if i added AI to the bots would they rise up and rebel like in i robot
[20:34] <LLStarks> it's still less than 10 pixels no matter the icon size.
[20:34] <micahg> i don't remember, but my icons are smaller now
[20:35] <micahg> do you have the issue opening a new window?
[20:35] <LLStarks> no.
[20:35] <LLStarks> my mouse is pretty expensive, but sometimes i veer too high.
[20:35] <micahg> so, when hitting the back button you open a new window?
[20:35] <LLStarks> no.l
[20:36] <LLStarks> no. a new window is accidentally opened instead of going back.
[20:36] <bdrung> eagles0513875: you need to finish a ff extension before adding ai to the bog - so we are safe :p
[20:36] <LLStarks> because they are close together.
[20:36] <eagles0513875> bdrung: i know i have yet to learn AI in my course that will be next yr god willing lol
[20:36] <micahg> I don't see how that's possible
[20:36] <LLStarks> you accidentally click file>new window
[20:36] <micahg> LLStarks: can you do a screencast?
[20:36] <LLStarks> no i won't
[20:37] <micahg> why noT?
[20:37] <LLStarks> i believe i've explained the bug.
[20:37] <LLStarks> when trying to click the back button, one has the tendency to overshoot the button and click file.
[20:38] <bdrung> eagles0513875: i studied it last year
[20:38] <eagles0513875> is it worth learning
[20:38] <eagles0513875> i was going ot take that since i have to choose 6 half credits next yr that and neural networks
[20:38] <micahg> LLStarks: I'm sorry, I just don't see how that's possible unless there's a lack of motor control or the mouse is set to move too fast
[20:38] <micahg> no offense intended
[20:38] <eagles0513875> i already have an idea for my thesis involving ai and possibly neural networks for speech recognition software
[20:39] <LLStarks> 400dpi right now.
[20:39] <LLStarks> goes as high as 800dpi
[20:39] <micahg> maybe asac would have some insight
[20:39] <LLStarks> i have fine control of the mouse. the problem lies in the upper boundary of back and lower boundary of file.
[20:40] <LLStarks> they don't overlap, but they are very close.
[20:40] <micahg> yes, but why are you aiming so high is my question?
[20:40] <LLStarks> i don't
[20:40] <LLStarks> it just lands there.
[20:40] <micahg> the button seems big enough, even on the small size ones
[20:41] <LLStarks> it is big enough, but it requires effort to stop in the middle and not near the edges of the button
[20:41] <micahg> sorry, I've been looking in 3.6, I j 3.5ust pulled up
[20:41] <micahg> ok, unless you are above the line, it doesn't open the file menu
[20:41] <micahg> and that button is big
[20:42] <micahg> so, if there's a problem with the mouse driver, that's another issue
[20:42] <micahg> and the back button is highlighted when you hover over it
[20:42] <LLStarks> try swinging from the bottom right to top left of the screen
[20:43] <LLStarks> with your mouse.
[20:43] <micahg> no problem for me, idk, that's why I'd like to see what's going on...but feel free to ask someone else
[20:43] <LLStarks> does shutter do screencasts?
[20:44] <bdrung> eagles0513875: i studied only the basics (6 ects points - one term). the first half was interesting. i dislike the second - probabilistic ai
[20:44]  * micahg is looking up Fitt's law
[20:45] <eagles0513875> not sure what my syllabus will be like but its gotta be an interesting topic
[20:45] <micahg> LLStarks: gtk-recordmydesktop is pretty nice
[20:45] <LLStarks> read my mind
[20:46] <eagles0513875> night yall
[20:47] <eagles0513875> bdrung: will work on finishing up the last touches to bindwood so i can start on the next one
[20:48] <micahg> LLStarks: you're not going to like 3.6...
[20:48] <micahg> icons are smaller
[20:48] <LLStarks> that sucks
[20:49] <micahg> idk what to tell you
[20:49] <micahg> the gui seems to be very good about not opening the menu unless you are above the line above the button
[20:51] <LLStarks> it's still a fitt's law issue
[20:51] <LLStarks> maybe 4.0's new ui will fix it
[20:51] <LLStarks> chrome does a good job  preventing this sort of bug.
[20:53] <micahg> I read a document describing the law, but I still don't see it
[20:55] <LLStarks> remember the trough-border scrollbar issue?
[20:55] <LLStarks> same thing.
[20:55] <LLStarks> you had to aim for the center of the scrollbar.
[20:55] <LLStarks> clicking the right bound wasn't an option
[20:58] <micahg> that seems like a more conventional application of Fitt's law
[21:00] <LLStarks> anyway, brb
[21:37] <fta> Mook_sb, stevel: still no fix?
[21:37] <Mook_sb> fta: with no bug filed in an extended release crunch, not likely :(
[21:38] <Mook_sb> (the bug being, we don't understand --with-system-sqlite at all)
[21:38] <fta> just wondering what i should answer to users complaining about lack of upgrades
[21:38] <fta> maybe i should just delete the ppa
[21:40] <fta> jcastro, do you think you could find someone to take care of the songbird package & its ppa? i want to drop the ball
[21:40] <fta> asac, micahg: ^^, unless one of you is interested..
[21:41] <micahg> it's tempting for me...
[21:41] <micahg> how often is there breakage?
[21:42] <fta> not often, but when it happens, it can last a while unless you fix it yourself
[21:42] <micahg> fta: I'd be willing to give it a try
[21:42] <fta> very different from chromium where i can easily motivate upstream to fix it
[21:42] <jcastro> fta: :-/ ok I can look for someone
[21:43] <micahg> fta: would you mind tutoring me in how your bot works, maybe another time
[21:43] <fta> jcastro, let's try with micahg ;)
[21:43] <fta> micahg, sure
[21:43] <micahg> ok, I have a server I can deploy it to, but I won't be able to start until next week
[21:44] <fta> micahg, good
[21:44] <fta> but you'll start with a broken build :P
[21:44] <micahg> np, I'm used to that now :)
[21:45] <fta> this time, it's not a patch
[21:45] <micahg> ok, well, I'll see if I can figure it out
[21:45] <fta> but it needs a new patch as upstream is apparently unwilling to fix it directly
[21:46] <micahg> brb, need to see if sound comes back after reboot
[22:11] <bdrung> asac: i only upload adblock-plus
[22:12] <bdrung> asac: i need sleep now, could do more tomorrow
[22:31] <fta> hm, my usb devices/keys are no longer auto-mounted, wtf?
[23:00] <asac> fta: 3g?
[23:01] <micahg> asac: do you need that patch from me?
[23:01] <fta> nope, data key
[23:01] <asac> micahg: sorry i was hidden in a dark room today so far
[23:01] <asac> micahg: what patch ;)?
[23:01] <asac> the update.locale?
[23:01] <micahg> yeah
[23:01] <asac> maybe tell me what exactly you will do ;)
[23:02] <asac> i think touching that file will avoid getting one more patch ;)
[23:02] <micahg> ok, I was going to remove the %LOCALE% string from the update.url pref
[23:02] <micahg> since we don't use update.url anyways
[23:02] <micahg> and it only needs to be in 3.5 as 3.6 doesn't have this issue
[23:06] <fta> micahg, added you to the songbird-daily team so you push to the ppa, whenever you're ready
[23:06] <fta> for the branch, it's owned by mozillateam like all firefox & xul branches
[23:08] <micahg> ok, so I'll still have to propose merges for bze
[23:08] <micahg> *bzr
[23:08] <micahg> but I can upload to the ppa
[23:10] <fta> I can also change the ownership of the branch
[23:11] <fta> but if you run the bot yourself, it doesn't really matter, you can make it use any branch you want
[23:12] <micahg> ok
[23:19] <fta> attempting a last resort reboot to fix my usb problems :P (i hate reboots)