[14:59] <tseliot> apw: what value do you use for the MovementBottomEdgeArea or whatever is called of your touchpad
[14:59] <tseliot> ?
[14:59] <apw> 4100 i think
[14:59] <apw> are we aiming to get that to happen magically ... its pretty annoying
[15:00] <apw> xinput set-int-prop "SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" "Synaptics Area" 32 0 0 0 4100
[15:00] <apw> tseliot, ^^
[15:01] <tseliot> apw: yep, this is why I asked
[15:01] <hyperair> speaking of touchpads, for some reason, my bottom left corner has become trigger for circular scrolling that scrolls horizontally
[15:01] <hyperair> not that i'm complaining or anything, but isn't there documentation about this?
[15:01] <hyperair> it seems like an unexpected and welcome feature that's undocumented and may have been the result of some bug or other
[15:03] <tseliot> hyperair: circular scrolling? Isn't that disabled by default?
[15:03] <hyperair> yes it is
[15:03] <hyperair> (i wish it were enabled by default though)
[15:03] <hyperair> or at least some way of configuring it in gnome
[15:04] <hyperair> i've got circular scrolling explicitly enabled in an fdi file here
[15:04] <tseliot> a UI should be available for Lucid
[15:04] <hyperair> that's nice
[15:05] <hyperair> while that's done, i think it'd also be awesome to enable middle button configuration for both mouse and touchpad
[15:05] <hyperair> in particular, my use case is middle button emulation for touchpad but not mouse
[15:05] <hyperair> bunch of fdis to handle that
[15:06] <jcristau> doesn't the gnome pointing device stuff handle those things?
[15:06] <tseliot> that depends on the gnome-settings-daemon
[15:06] <jcristau> ah..
[16:20] <mac_v> tormod: hi... regarding comment > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/436546/comments/6  i'm on x-updates ppa.. how do i revert to the karmic mesa? doesnt the x-updates have the fix?
[16:20] <tormod> mac_v: ppa-purge
[16:21] <tormod> mac_v: x-updates does not have the fix, because it is just upstream, packaged
[16:21] <tormod> mac_v: there hasn't been an upstream fix yet
[16:21] <mac_v> tormod: isnt the ppa purge only for edgers?
[16:21] <mac_v> rather from edgers ppa
[16:21] <tormod> mac_v: no it purges any ppa you specify
[16:22] <tormod> mac_v you can also use apt-get install PACKAGE=VERSION or PACKAGE/karmic
[16:23] <mac_v> tormod: is the ppa purge available only from the edgers ppa?... i cant seem to find it
[16:23] <tormod> mac_v: yes it's only there ATM
[16:23] <mac_v> ah... thanks. will do
[16:24] <tormod> reminds me I have been working on it and I should publish a new version
[16:26] <tormod> can't believe they're so slow fixing that mesa crasher upstream though. it's crashed, regression, and in the 7.6.1 release
[16:26] <tormod> *crasher
[16:28] <mac_v> tormod: its crashing even when i switch windows a tad faster :/   
[16:28] <tormod> guess it doesn't help that the guy who wrote that code seems to have vanished
[16:28] <mac_v> lol
[16:28] <tormod> mac_v: it crashes with the new karmic packages?
[16:28] <mac_v> tormod: no , the x-updated one..
[16:29] <tormod> oh good :)
[16:29] <mac_v> havent yet ,switched to karmic packages
[16:37] <tseliot> apw: the next revision (i.e. ubuntu7) of synaptics will have that option set to 4100 by default. Just FYI
[16:37] <apw> tseliot, cool, is that just for dell 10v, presume so
[16:37] <tseliot> apw: yes, it's just for 2 models
[16:38] <apw> very cool
[16:44] <tseliot> :-)
[18:09] <mac_v> hmm , the ppa purge wasnt very useful for x-updates... how do i revert the x-updates packages all at once? is apt-get for the individual packages the only option?
[18:18] <mac_v> bryce_: any suggestions? ^ how to revert from x-updates back to karmic packages