| === fstock is now known as senor | ||
| Balsaq | hey _Techie_are you in here thursday after midnight usa eastern time | 02:21 |
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| __Techie__ | afternoon #xubuntu, does anyone know of an alternative bootloader to grub for booting a persistant usb install? | 02:25 |
| Balsaq | _Techie_you are here twice | 02:35 |
| __Techie__ | yeah _techie_ is a ghost but im not ghosting him as im in a public locatiobn | 02:40 |
| __Techie__ | location* | 02:40 |
| Balsaq | cause i spoke to the ghost ghost and no answer then a moment later you came in...coincidence | 02:42 |
| __Techie__ | lol | 02:42 |
| __Techie__ | what did you sya? | 02:42 |
| __Techie__ | say* | 02:42 |
| Balsaq | so are you up for another knock down drag out...you had to go last time | 02:43 |
| __Techie__ | wait, which time? | 02:43 |
| Balsaq | remember my 1st fiasco tossing ubu in mu puter? | 02:43 |
| __Techie__ | flash? | 02:43 |
| Balsaq | well my ist ubu install..you hung in to avout halfway | 02:44 |
| Balsaq | about* | 02:44 |
| __Techie__ | yeah sorry about that, im in school at the moment | 02:44 |
| Balsaq | thurs they are stuffing me with 6 ole puters and i am dying to stuff xubu in one | 02:45 |
| __Techie__ | ooh cool | 02:45 |
| Balsaq | thurs after midnight usa eastern time... | 02:45 |
| __Techie__ | i prolly wotn be on much, school rung home and i got in trouble with my dad | 02:45 |
| Balsaq | yur dad...how old are u | 02:45 |
| __Techie__ | 18 | 02:45 |
| Balsaq | so in HS or college | 02:46 |
| __Techie__ | last year HS | 02:46 |
| Balsaq | wow you know a lot about computers | 02:46 |
| __Techie__ | even though my school is names spotswood college | 02:46 |
| Balsaq | so what are you gonna major in...tunnels? | 02:46 |
| __Techie__ | hardware and networking | 02:47 |
| __Techie__ | if i can | 02:47 |
| Balsaq | cool if you do that the gov will hire you! | 02:47 |
| __Techie__ | but ill probably go freelance without any qualificatuions | 02:47 |
| Balsaq | they need some good pro hackers | 02:47 |
| __Techie__ | haha | 02:47 |
| Balsaq | i tried to rope pete into bein here but not sure if he's gonna make it either | 02:48 |
| __Techie__ | pete? | 02:48 |
| __Techie__ | you talking about _pete_? | 02:48 |
| Balsaq | always says Pete up there by your name on the right side of the screen | 02:48 |
| __Techie__ | oh lol, hes cool | 02:48 |
| Balsaq | is he a room OP | 02:49 |
| __Techie__ | really | 02:49 |
| Balsaq | no i am asking you | 02:49 |
| __Techie__ | not that i know of | 02:49 |
| Balsaq | well all the other names are in alpabetical order but you and pete are on top as if excluded from the alphabetical order | 02:49 |
| Balsaq | i asked pete and he said he doesn't have the names listed on there at all | 02:50 |
| __Techie__ | nah its characters then alphabetical | 02:50 |
| Balsaq | oh iu see so the _ gets you up there | 02:50 |
| Balsaq | another perfect hack | 02:50 |
| __Techie__ | hes using a command line client | 02:51 |
| __Techie__ | thats why he doesnt have a user list | 02:51 |
| Balsaq | some rooms have a + sign indicating OP status...so in that case there is no OP here from what i can tell | 02:51 |
| __Techie__ | we have chanserv as our ops are silent ops | 02:52 |
| __Techie__ | they are only opped when needed | 02:52 |
| Balsaq | deep | 02:52 |
| __Techie__ | yay i get out in just over 15 minutes | 02:53 |
| Balsaq | outta what | 02:53 |
| __Techie__ | school | 02:53 |
| Balsaq | so its freakin 3pm in NZ? | 02:53 |
| __Techie__ | 16 minutes exactly | 02:53 |
| __Techie__ | 2:54 | 02:53 |
| Balsaq | so you are hacked on thier internet as we speak | 02:54 |
| __Techie__ | yeah' | 02:54 |
| __Techie__ | tunneling through petes internet | 02:54 |
| Balsaq | get outta town | 02:54 |
| __Techie__ | outta country more like it | 02:55 |
| Balsaq | i gave up on the flash incident btw...i am figuring the new old dell will run the dadgum youtube vids with xubu | 02:56 |
| __Techie__ | yeah | 02:56 |
| __Techie__ | if you want some eye candy on your desktop then you could try kubuntu | 02:57 |
| Balsaq | well all ireally want is speed it seems all the distros have an easy wat to get in the windows | 02:58 |
| Balsaq | wat=way* | 02:58 |
| Balsaq | every where i look they seem to say xubuntu is the fast version of ubuntu... | 02:58 |
| __Techie__ | yeah, but if its a moderate system your desktop manager wont hinder it | 02:59 |
| __Techie__ | 10 mintues | 02:59 |
| Balsaq | well i am not sure what moderate is, i aske dthe guy who hands out the computers but he couldn't tell me yet, so i printed the minimum specs from dell | 03:00 |
| Balsaq | hopefully they ordered them a little or alot above the minimum specs | 03:01 |
| __Techie__ | well i class a moderate system as 1.5ghz+ 300mb+ RAM, and a 32mb video card | 03:01 |
| Balsaq | well the 8200 could come in as low as 1.5 (up to 2.8ghz) , 128 rdram (up to 2gig) and up to 2 hard drives, the other 5 of them are 8250's and have automatically higher specs | 03:03 |
| __Techie__ | anything this side of 2002 will most likely be near those specs | 03:03 |
| Balsaq | yeah these are around 2002 or newere from what i read | 03:03 |
| __Techie__ | they will do fine | 03:04 |
| Balsaq | i am hoping they ordered a lil heavy due to corporate/lab type useage | 03:05 |
| __Techie__ | is this the dell dimension 8200? | 03:05 |
| Balsaq | yes one is that the other five are 8250....the one i have here now is xpsr400 | 03:06 |
| Balsaq | i think he dumped em on me so easily cause they run onflippin rdram | 03:06 |
| Balsaq | whick is pricey | 03:06 |
| __Techie__ | yeah original DDR and SDRAM is very pricy | 03:07 |
| __Techie__ | my system runs on original DDR | 03:07 |
| __Techie__ | it cost me $70 australian for my 1gig stick | 03:07 |
| Balsaq | heck if i had to buy this crazy rdram new they want 150-300 | 03:07 |
| Balsaq | noone even stock it new | 03:07 |
| __Techie__ | anyway im gonna have to go soon, its 3:08 | 03:08 |
| Balsaq | ok take ur easy | 03:08 |
| __Techie__ | oh yeah, check out my latest project, a full ubuntu install on a usb drive | 03:08 |
| Balsaq | wow..hey maybe i could do that? then it just plugs into anything huh | 03:09 |
| __Techie__ | yeah, if i get it working ill share my experience with you | 03:09 |
| Balsaq | 10-4 | 03:09 |
| __Techie__ | anyway, bells gone | 03:09 |
| __Techie__ | seeya | 03:09 |
| Balsaq | later | 03:10 |
| raevol | anyone else getting spam from fstock? | 04:17 |
| squidly | raevol: yea | 04:27 |
| squidly | he's been dcc spaming me for the past couple of days | 04:27 |
| raevol | think i've seen it from a few nicks | 04:31 |
| raevol | home it gets taken care of :/ | 04:31 |
| raevol | hope even | 04:32 |
| squidly | yea I need to talk to the admin on FN | 04:41 |
| squidly | however I have a minor issue talking to them. I've told Christel off more then once | 04:41 |
| raevol | hehe | 04:42 |
| squidly | yea | 04:42 |
| squidly | and when I tell people off. I'm not nice about it | 04:42 |
| raevol | that's usually the idea :x | 04:42 |
| squidly | raevol: you can be police when you tell someone off.. or you can let them know that you think the HIV virus is above them on the evolutionary ladder | 04:43 |
| squidly | guess what method I have used for christel? | 04:43 |
| raevol | haha, the latter? | 04:43 |
| squidly | yea | 04:44 |
| raevol | good times | 04:44 |
| squidly | yea | 04:44 |
| squidly | fine times and sad times too | 04:44 |
| raevol | that's irc | 04:45 |
| squidly | well the RL thing that really pushed me over the edge was how some issues were handeled when Lilo passed | 04:45 |
| squidly | but yea suck is IRC | 04:45 |
| raevol | yea | 04:46 |
| gigawatt | i'm having a huge issue with wireless on an MSI wind laptop using xubuntu | 05:33 |
| gigawatt | nm-applet doesn't see the internal wireless card | 05:34 |
| likemindead | Try "sudo ifup -a" gigawatt. | 05:34 |
| gigawatt | nope | 05:36 |
| gigawatt | i'v been having this issue off and on with wireless on msi wind | 05:36 |
| gigawatt | and i'v never been able to fix it, sometime it just "goes away" | 05:37 |
| likemindead | Is it showing up in "sudo iwlist scan" ? | 05:37 |
| gigawatt | wlan0 : no scan results | 05:37 |
| likemindead | Or "ifconfig -a" ? | 05:37 |
| gigawatt | it shows up under ifconfig | 05:38 |
| likemindead | That's a start. :-) | 05:38 |
| gigawatt | yeah | 05:38 |
| gigawatt | i tried wicd as well and it didn't see it | 05:38 |
| likemindead | What's the wireless card? | 05:39 |
| gigawatt | atheros ar242x | 05:39 |
| likemindead | !atheros | 05:39 |
| ubottu | Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 05:39 |
| likemindead | That's all I've got. | 05:40 |
| gigawatt | ok i'll look at that | 05:40 |
| likemindead | Which version of Xubuntu are you running? | 05:40 |
| gigawatt | 9.04 | 05:41 |
| likemindead | You could download 9.10 Beta & give it a try. | 05:41 |
| gigawatt | i might | 05:41 |
| gigawatt | what about this: v | 05:41 |
| gigawatt | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros | 05:42 |
| likemindead | I've been loving 9.10 since Alpha 6. | 05:42 |
| likemindead | Worth a shot. | 05:42 |
| gigawatt | ok | 05:43 |
| Balsaq | i always call up verizon and make them connect me to wireless if i can't get it done and they do it everytime i set a computer | 05:51 |
| Balsaq | they'll take the call 24/7 | 05:51 |
| Balsaq | being it s competitive il bet all wirelss companies will do the same | 05:52 |
| Balsaq | _Techie_ my computer is running wrong i'm about toss xubu in her dry are you in here this morning? | 07:48 |
| Balsaq | i think ubu and a kazillion updates have taken their toll | 07:48 |
| nikolam | hm. packages.ubuntu.com is down again.. | 08:54 |
| === Sysi_ is now known as Sysi | ||
| === kj4kjl is now known as kj4 | ||
| kj4 | hello all | 10:05 |
| kj4 | anyone here? | 10:05 |
| kj4 | hello fooks | 10:09 |
| kj4 | any freplly helpsy buntoids here? | 10:09 |
| rgnr | help ppl | 10:10 |
| rgnr | my usb flash lost space | 10:10 |
| kj4 | please explain | 10:16 |
| ablomen | kj4, whats your question? | 10:29 |
| rgnr | kj4: well, i had 16gb on my usb and suddenly it came to be only 8mb | 10:39 |
| homebrewcider | hey there, I'm running xubuntu 8.10 on a server pc, I want to give it a static ip of 192.168.0.9 on my network, I can seemingly do that okay, but when I do, it cuts it's internet access, and I can't update (Failed to fetch....). It is running through a switch, with a smoothwall firewall at 192.168.0.1 ( of course). I've had this running before, but I don't know what I've done wrong this time, please help! | 10:46 |
| ablomen | homebrewcider, stupid question, but are you sure the ip isn't taken already? | 10:53 |
| ablomen | and are you sure you have set the right netmast & gateway? | 10:54 |
| homebrewcider | yeah, I'm sure | 10:55 |
| homebrewcider | set netmask of 255.255.255.0 | 10:55 |
| homebrewcider | and gateway of 192.168.0.1, that's right isn't it? | 10:55 |
| ablomen | if it's your router it should be | 10:56 |
| ablomen | can you ping anything internal and/or external ip adresses? for example 74.125.67.100 (google.com) | 10:57 |
| homebrewcider | the thing is though,when I assign the static ip in the network manager, and fill in the netmask of 255.... etc, on saving it, the netmask becomes 24, that's it, just 24 | 11:01 |
| ablomen | homebrewcider, try setting the ip etc in /etc/networking/interfaces.. network manager seems to work in misterious ways sometimes, after editing run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart | 11:02 |
| _Pete__ | homebrewcider: If I were you I would put static defines to the /etc/network/interfaces on drop whole network-damager | 11:02 |
| _Pete__ | on=and | 11:02 |
| homebrewcider | I've tried that,I'll tgry again | 11:05 |
| homebrewcider | hehe, tgry=try | 11:05 |
| _Pete__ | this is how I have it http://pastebin.com/m670e15ad | 11:05 |
| _Pete__ | also, remember to update /etc/resolv.conf | 11:06 |
| homebrewcider | checking now | 11:07 |
| homebrewcider | ok, dumb question, how do I update /etc/resolv.conf | 11:08 |
| homebrewcider | it just says #generated by neetworkmanager | 11:09 |
| _Pete__ | if you only use static address | 11:10 |
| _Pete__ | then you dont need whole network-manager | 11:11 |
| _Pete__ | edit the file manually and but your nameservrs theres | 11:11 |
| === _Pete__ is now known as _Pete_ | ||
| homebrewcider | sorry, edit it to what?' | 11:13 |
| _Pete_ | http://pastebin.com/m26099a44 | 11:13 |
| _Pete_ | this is mine | 11:13 |
| _Pete_ | first two are opendns and last is the router | 11:14 |
| homebrewcider | could they be the primary and secondary dns that my isp gave me? | 11:17 |
| _Pete_ | sure | 11:17 |
| homebrewcider | ok, I'll try that | 11:17 |
| homebrewcider | do I have to disable networkmangler? or something similar | 11:23 |
| _Pete_ | I think it pointless to have if you only use that static connection | 11:25 |
| homebrewcider | does it "take things over" though? | 11:26 |
| homebrewcider | do I have to disable networking in it or anything? | 11:26 |
| _Pete_ | I am not quite sure | 11:27 |
| homebrewcider | I'm testing it now | 11:28 |
| _Pete_ | after modifying interface/resolv.conf do: /etc/init.d/networking restart so it will apply new settings | 11:29 |
| homebrewcider | did that, i could ping google, but not load web pages | 11:30 |
| _Pete_ | recheck you resolv.conf is ok | 11:30 |
| homebrewcider | hmm, what I put in there has disappeared..... | 11:32 |
| _Pete_ | network-damager doing something then | 11:32 |
| _Pete_ | so better remove it | 11:32 |
| homebrewcider | doing it now | 11:35 |
| homebrewcider | synaptic couldn't "find some resources", might have to go back to dhcp in network damager, get "online" remove it, then change things? | 11:37 |
| _Pete_ | apt-get --purge remove network-manager | 11:37 |
| _Pete_ | should be enough | 11:38 |
| homebrewcider | ok | 11:38 |
| _Pete_ | (jsut removed own one too) :) | 11:38 |
| homebrewcider | I think I've got it thanx to you | 11:41 |
| homebrewcider | many thanks | 11:44 |
| nikolam | MY WHOLE system behaves like crap when installing packages | 11:45 |
| nikolam | I run LTS | 11:45 |
| nikolam | it is Crap that everything is twitching and mouse and winodws and sound and all apps not working fine while synaptic is installing something | 11:46 |
| nikolam | I am sick of it.. | 11:46 |
| nikolam | i type text and it gets cached and not displayed on screen while installing some freakin .debs | 11:46 |
| nikolam | why a freak default priority for synaptig installing something is not lower for god sake | 11:47 |
| nikolam | or i need to run RT kernel to avoid thatt shitty synaptic / deb install behavior | 11:48 |
| nikolam | My machine is useless while installing packages it sucks. | 11:48 |
| DaWyzir | HOZSANNA DICSOSEGES TESVEREIM | 12:36 |
| kurakuska | hallo | 13:03 |
| DaWyzir | karakuska brotha aloha | 13:06 |
| kurakuska | can i do a question on wicd istallition on xubuntu? | 13:06 |
| kurakuska | sorry for my english | 13:07 |
| kurakuska | i'm italian | 13:07 |
| kurakuska | where can i find the wicd? | 13:08 |
| homebrewcider | I'm trying to change ownership of a folder, am I doing it right? <sudo chown name:name /path > ? | 13:14 |
| TheSheep | yes | 13:16 |
| Pres-Gas | homebrewcider, if you are wanting to change the ownership of the contents as well, you would do "sudo chown -R uname:group /path" | 13:16 |
| homebrewcider | forgot the -R | 13:17 |
| Pres-Gas | Only if you are also wanting to change all the files within the folder | 13:17 |
| homebrewcider | which I am | 13:18 |
| homebrewcider | says "not permitted" | 13:18 |
| Pres-Gas | homebrewcider, what directory are you wanting to change? | 13:19 |
| Pres-Gas | a system one? | 13:19 |
| homebrewcider | < /media/data > | 13:20 |
| homebrewcider | have a 1tb drive mounted there | 13:20 |
| Pres-Gas | homebrewcider, issue "mount | grep /media/data" and show us that line, please. | 13:21 |
| homebrewcider | < /dev/sda1 on /media/data type vfat (rw) > | 13:23 |
| Pres-Gas | hmmm...homebrewcider, I am not sure if vfat responds to chowns....the directory itself (/media/data) may, but not the contents...am I right on that, TheSheep? | 13:25 |
| homebrewcider | got it done once before, a while ago though, can't remember what I had to do | 13:26 |
| _Pete_ | is it portable(usb or such) drive= | 13:26 |
| _Pete_ | ? | 13:26 |
| Pres-Gas | homebrewcider, try reading these articles over: | 13:28 |
| Pres-Gas | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-447173.html | 13:28 |
| homebrewcider | no, sata internal, on pci card. I've had this sorted once before, but it was a while ago, I had it writable and all, but I had it mounted in the "wrong place".....long story | 13:28 |
| Pres-Gas | http://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-install-list/2001-September/msg00214.html | 13:29 |
| _Pete_ | homebrewcider: why is it vfat? | 13:29 |
| Pres-Gas | I think you will need to remount it, homebrewcider | 13:29 |
| homebrewcider | has to be vfat to be writable from the pvr in the other room | 13:29 |
| homebrewcider | won't let me unmmount it though | 13:30 |
| _Pete_ | how does pvr access the drive? | 13:32 |
| homebrewcider | I can unmount the drive, chown the folder okay, but when I mount the drive again, the ownership changes back to root | 13:36 |
| Pres-Gas | homebrewcider, those articles I sent you talk about mounting the vfat drives under different ownership | 13:37 |
| jayjay | am new xubuntu newbie,chnaged in thunar the read permissions of foto directories + files, how can I undo this to read and edit them again, please help who can | 19:38 |
| jarnos | jayjay, enable write permission in thunar | 19:39 |
| jarnos | jayjay, and read permissions. | 19:40 |
| jayjay | I did, but only the folders are "unchecke" do I have to uncheck every single pic | 19:40 |
| jayjay | tnx jarmos | 19:40 |
| jayjay | Jarnos, any advice for me how to get all permissions to all files | 19:43 |
| jarnos | jayjay, try setting permission of the parent directory in thunar | 19:44 |
| jayjay | done!,only the directory is permitted the pics inside not.. | 19:45 |
| jarnos | jayjay, didn't it ask you whether it should apply recursively? | 19:47 |
| jayjay | ehhm, no, it simply takes the read and write permissions, but I cant open the pics indide the folders | 19:48 |
| jayjay | when I do the same procedure with every single pic, it works, but it would take months to do it | 19:50 |
| jcfp | jayjay: there's an option in thunar's preferences, whether it should apply permissions recursively or not | 19:51 |
| jayjay | found and try it out now, please jarnos wait a second | 19:52 |
| jayjay | no change, the folders act the same like before | 19:54 |
| jayjay | tnx jcfp, but no change | 19:56 |
| jayjay | should I restart the system maybe | 19:56 |
| jcfp | jayjay: you do know that directories need +x to be accessible? | 19:57 |
| jayjay | sorry am newbie, what do you mean with +x | 19:57 |
| jayjay | changed the permissions not by terminal | 19:58 |
| jcfp | guess thunar does that automatically since it presents only read and write options to the user | 19:58 |
| jayjay | when unoing it, it only chnages the folders not the content, how can I solve it by terminal to get permissions to the ingle pics again | 20:00 |
| jcfp | jayjay: chmod -R u+rwx <directory with those file> | 20:04 |
| jayjay | my hero jcfp! tnx so much for ya help, it solved my problem | 20:05 |
| jcfp | yw | 20:06 |
| jarnos | My system freezes, if I use suspend/hibernate with restricted nvidia display driver in jaunty. It is version 96.43.10, but nvidia site has newer driver. What can I do to make hibernate/suspend work, if I continue to use a restricted driver? | 20:30 |
| nikolam | Grrrr | 22:46 |
| nikolam | how to avoid locked and slow and unresponsive system while installing apps | 22:46 |
| nikolam | with synaptic? | 22:46 |
| nikolam | grrrr | 22:46 |
| jarnos | nikolam, does "nice" help? | 22:54 |
| Balsaq | hello KB1JWQ! | 23:15 |
| nikolam | jarnos, didn`t try. Every time i hit icon in meny for synaptic and i shout around :) | 23:25 |
| nikolam | I am interested in a way of editing Xfce menu, so I can edit menu item and insert that nice befor synaptic and update commands | 23:26 |
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