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ScottK-laptopOK. So quassel 0.5.0 seems to work.00:01
ScottKScottK-laptop: Ping.00:01
ScottK-laptopShip it ....00:02
ScottKRiddell and Sput: Finall Quassel 0.5.0 uploaded.00:05
Sput\o/00:06
Sputthanks :)00:06
ScottKA full 54 minutes before final freeze.00:06
Sputwe're getting better00:06
Sputnext time we'll waste even less time!00:06
JontheEchidnaScottK: eek, could you upload kde4libs then?00:07
DarkwingDuck54 Min?00:08
* Sput wasn't even aware that freeze was that close... when I asked the other day, I thought "Tue/Wed" included the usual 1 day package building buffer :)00:09
Sputor excluded, rather00:09
JontheEchidnaScottK, Tonio_, Riddell: also kdepim needs a sponsor for a package overwrite fix00:11
* JontheEchidna gets a bit nervous00:43
RiddellJontheEchidna: fear not I shall upload00:47
JontheEchidna\o/00:47
JontheEchidnaRiddell: there is a keycodes merge awaiting, but I do not know if 12 minutes before final freeze is the best time for a change like that00:48
RiddellJontheEchidna: keycodes?  which source package?00:49
JontheEchidnaRiddell: kde4libs00:50
JontheEchidna[18:23:24] <debfx> I posted a merge request https://code.launchpad.net/~debfx/kdelibs/kaction-qt-keys/+merge/13388 to fix bug #29321300:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 293213 in qt4-x11 "Qt and kde4libs don't support various multimedia keys" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29321300:50
JontheEchidnaRiddell: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=54930800:58
ubottuDebian bug 549308 in kde4libs "problems with konqueror default Fixed Font" [Unknown,Closed]00:59
JontheEchidna20_use_dejavu_as_default_font.diff is currently broken00:59
Riddellkdepim uploaded01:05
lex79another trying to overwrite, lp bug 45176201:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 451762 in kdepim "package kdepim-groupware 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: tentata sovrascrittura di `/usr/share/kde4/services/kresources/kcal/kcal_groupdav.desktop', che si trova anche nel pacchetto korganizer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45176201:08
Riddellkdebase-workspace uploaded01:11
Riddelluploading kde4libs with this changelog http://paste.ubuntu.com/293571/01:16
JontheEchidnacool, that should take care of all that I can recall needs done01:17
Riddelllex79: fixing01:24
lex79Riddell: I uploaded to bzr01:24
Riddelloh you got there first01:24
lex79yeah01:24
lex79:P01:24
Riddelluploading01:25
Riddellanything else needing uploading?01:28
JontheEchidnaI'm good here01:29
JontheEchidnaare things officially frozen or can I still sneak a universe upload in w/o motu-release approval?01:31
RiddellI don't think it's frozen yet01:34
debfxRiddell: seb128 uploaded the pidgin tray icon fix, but said he will probably drop it for karmic+101:38
Riddelldebfx: maybe pidgin will use the nice new systray spec by then (we can hope anyway)01:40
JontheEchidnabug 448865 needs addressing in some way or another01:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 448865 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "GTK+ apps do not render in Kubuntu 9.10 beta" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44886501:47
Riddellmm, I could just upload the new qtcurve packages but it's the startkde stuff I'm worried about01:58
DarkwingDuckIs there a way to "undo" an update?01:59
ScottKJontheEchidna: Universe doesn't freeze for a while yet02:00
ScottKBTW, final freeze is sometime Thursday, so we just hit the opening of the window.  The actual time is left vague and depends on when slangasek decides.02:02
ScottKStuff that fixes significant bugs will get through probably until Tuesday, just needs Ubuntu release approval.02:02
JontheEchidnanow that my sleep button will work, I must make sure I set it not to hibernate/suspend my keyboard02:05
JontheEchidnaI always accidentally hit it when trying to raise the volume02:06
lex79Riddell: are you uploading qtcurve stuff? there are new versions, 0.69.102:10
lex79I'm uploading to bzr btw02:11
Riddelllex79: what's new?02:15
lex79bugfixes release, changelog: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/QtCurve+%28KDE4%2C+KDE3%2C+%26+Gtk2+Theme%29?content=4049202:15
lex790.69.1 uploaded to bzr02:23
JontheEchidnaRiddell: got another -workspace upload, for KDE bug 20927103:54
ubottuKDE bug 209271 in widget-systemtray "(patch) Plasma crashes on an X11-display without RENDER extension" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20927103:54
JontheEchidnadebfx also had another patch for workspace, if it's something we want: https://code.launchpad.net/~debfx/kdebase-workspace/powerdevil-brightness-shortcuts/+merge/1339003:55
ScottKJontheEchidna: What does that fix?  brightness keys work fine for me now?04:23
* JontheEchidna shrugs04:24
lex79http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33702652/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.kdepim_4%3A4.3.2-0ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz04:24
ScottKlex79: Archive skew.  Needs a retry after the amd64 binaries get published.04:27
* JontheEchidna is wondering if i386 is published yet, I wanna test it out04:28
lex79ScottK: Yeah, I put the link here just for you :) just to remember you to retry :P04:29
lex79JontheEchidna: 386 is published04:30
JontheEchidnayeah, d/l'ing right now :)04:30
JontheEchidnasame story with workspace: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.3.2-0ubuntu3/+build/1292752/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.kdebase-workspace_4:4.3.2-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz04:31
lex79seems kdelibs built on cpu Atom this night IoI04:32
LureRiddell, ScottK: kdebase-workspace also needs retry on amd64: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33702490/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.kdebase-workspace_4:4.3.2-0ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz05:47
ScottKLure: It helps more to give a link to the build page.  I'll have a look.05:48
LureScottK: this one? https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.3.2-0ubuntu305:49
ScottKLure: Yes, but even more specifically https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.3.2-0ubuntu3/+build/129275205:53
ScottKRetried.05:54
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LureScottK: thanks06:13
LureRiddell: just thumbs up - latest kde4libs fixes digikam crash in khtml for me08:42
RiddellLure: awooga10:14
Riddelldebfx: the brightness keys on my laptop work already, I'm not sure if that's done in hardware or somewhere else along the software stack but it would seem to clash with your merge proposal10:56
debfxRiddell: are you able to change the brightness using the battery applet?10:58
Riddelldebfx: yes10:59
debfxso if it's handled by the hardware we would need to detect that11:01
Riddellright11:02
Riddelldebfx: do brightness keys work for you without the patch?11:02
RiddellI notice I have this in my lshal output   laptop_panel.brightness_in_hardware = false  (bool)11:02
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debfxRiddell: no they don't12:30
davmor2Riddell: I'm having to use adept_manager --dist-upgrade-devel-lts to get to karmic is this the way it's meant to be done?  p.s. I'm testing the adept from proposed12:32
debfxRiddell: are the brightness keycodes sent to X11 on your laptop?12:45
Riddelldebfx: yes, XF86MonBrightnessUp and Down are12:47
Riddelldavmor2: yes it is12:48
davmor2Riddell: Fails :(12:48
Riddelldavmor2: how so?12:48
debfxRiddell: are you sure it's not handled by another power manager?12:50
davmor2the upgrade is now aborted.  Your system could be in an unusable state.  A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a) options report bug and close.  Problem is report bug points at +filebug :)  which in turn is redirected to how to file a bug :) yay champion12:50
davmor2Riddell: ^12:51
EagleScreenmy brightness keys have never worked in 9.1012:51
Riddelldebfx: I really don't know where they're handled I'm ashamed to say12:51
Riddelldavmor2: so it ran the DistUpgrade tool and was upgrading to karmic?12:52
EagleScreenxev recognise my keys12:52
davmor2Riddell: Yeap12:52
Riddelldavmor2: file and bug and attach the files in /var/log/dist-upgrade and I'll take a look12:52
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davmor2Riddell: bug 452090 this is an sru test for sbeattie so I'm using adept packages from hardy-proposed.  term.log says it can't be uploaded it's empty but I'll double check that13:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 452090 in adept "adept fails to upgrade from hardy -> karmic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45209013:04
davmor2Riddell: yeah it's an empty file13:05
Riddellhum, there's no obvious errors in those logs13:07
Riddelldpm: desktop-kdepim-runtime doesn't exist upstream, it's strings are part of desktop-kdepim, could you upload desktop-kdepim's stings to desktop-kdepim-runtime in rosetta? (or is arne better to ask for that?)13:12
jtechidnaRiddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/293213/comments/20 hm...13:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 293213 in qt4-x11 "Qt and kde4libs don't support various multimedia keys" [Medium,Fix released]13:15
Riddelljtechidna: that bug should also have an entry open on kdebase-workspace which isn't yet closed13:16
dpmRiddell, you can ask either of us, but where should we fetch the desktop-kdepim translations from?13:17
Riddelldpm: desktop-kdepim is already in rosetta, it comes from kde-l10n-xx13:17
jtechidnaRiddell: seems python isn't fixed? bug 45110513:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 451105 in kdebase-workspace "jockey-kde crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45110513:18
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dpmRiddell, in which kubuntu source package desktop-kdepim-runtime is in?13:19
RiddellJontheEchidna: checking13:20
JontheEchidnadpm: kdepim-runtime13:20
dpmthanks JontheEchidna13:20
JontheEchidnayw13:21
JontheEchidnaRiddell: for brightness keys, bug 315001, perhaps bug 31832713:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 315001 in kdebase-workspace "powerdevil doesn't recognise funtion-key screen brightness changes" [Unknown,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31500113:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 318327 in kdebase "cannot control backlight on lenovo t400 with KDE 4" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31832713:23
RiddellJontheEchidna: those are part of the same problem yes13:25
Riddellwhich I'm suspecting is more complex than it ought to be13:26
dpmCould anyone have a look at bug 450349? I think this has been mentioned some other times already, and after talking to Arne he seems to think language-selector could take care of those packages13:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 450349 in kde-l10n-ca "kde-l10n-ca should be installed by default along with main catalan translations packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45034913:36
Riddelldpm: langauge selector does prompt to install kde-l10n-xx when it's missing for a used language13:39
JontheEchidnaTonio_: your arora default settings stuff causes a new input action entry to be added each login13:40
JontheEchidna(the mouse gestures stuff for KDE)13:41
dpmRiddell, it does it in Ubuntu, but it doesn't seem to do it in Kubuntu. I tried it yesterday and it did not prompt me to install the kde-l10n-ca package when I installed Catalan13:41
JontheEchidna^update-notifier-kde hasn't notified about that for whatever reason since 8.1013:42
JontheEchidnaupgrade hooks seem busted too13:42
dpmJontheEchidna, do you know if is there a bug about that already?13:43
JontheEchidnanot that I'm aware of13:43
JontheEchidnawhy can't language-selector install 'em by default, though?13:45
dpmJontheEchidna, Arne tells me that it could do it (let me get him in here)13:46
Quintasanhiho13:47
Quintasanwhat's with updates? it calculates broken dependencies for 5 minutes :S13:47
Tonio_JontheEchidna: really wried.....14:02
Tonio_JontheEchidna: well drop them then14:02
Tonio_JontheEchidna: we have no time to waste on that14:03
dpmok, language-selector now prompted me to install additional translation support and it did install the kde-l10n-* packages, but only the second time I tried to install a package...14:03
JontheEchidnaTonio_: it's a shame, and it seems you've tried to fix this before.. oh well14:03
Tonio_JontheEchidna: it's okay14:05
Tonio_you're right with the irst version I uploaded14:05
Tonio_JontheEchidna: but it works now, it just lached an "importid" field in it, which is there now14:05
JontheEchidnaI installed the latest updates yesterday, rebooted and had two Arora entries in the KHotKeys kcm14:06
JontheEchidnaa few days before that I had like 9 entries which I deleted14:06
Tonio_JontheEchidna: I just rebooted, and just have one14:08
Tonio_JontheEchidna: can you tail /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps/khotkeys/arora-gestures.khotkeys14:09
Tonio_and tell me if you have an importid there ?14:09
JontheEchidnaTonio_: it has the importID there14:09
Tonio_and if you logout and login ?14:10
JontheEchidnabefore: http://imagebin.ca/view/qTO3BUaY.html14:12
JontheEchidna(brb, rebooting)14:12
JontheEchidnathe weird thing is, I got a duplicate before I rebooted, in between the time I tested this morning and told you14:16
JontheEchidnabut now I've rebooted and there is only one14:16
Tonio_JontheEchidna: hum, maybe because you updated kds right after your last reboot ?14:17
Tonio_I don't know14:18
Tonio_seems to work afaics14:18
JontheEchidnaI did do an update this morning14:18
* JontheEchidna reinstalls kubuntu-default-settings14:18
Quintasanwat, IRC Plasmoid - http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/IRC+plasmoid?content=10842814:21
JontheEchidnamaybe it works now? I'll keep an eye on it14:22
JontheEchidnathat KNotification kwallet gives when it asks you for a password is stupid. Do I need a notification to tell me that I have a popup dialog?14:24
Quintasanurgh, too late for an update14:27
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giordyhi14:40
giordyI noticed a problem in update-notifier-kde14:40
giordyI've updated to karmic the day before yesterday14:40
giordyI tried to run it14:41
giordyas notifications were lacking14:41
giordyand I got this14:41
giordy$ update-notifier-kde14:42
giordyTraceback (most recent call last):14:42
giordy  File "/usr/bin/update-notifier-kde", line 29, in <module>14:42
giordy    from PyKDE4.kdecore import *14:42
giordyImportError: No module named kdecore14:42
giordyanyone here?14:43
debfxRiddell: I checked how gnome-power-manger handes the brightness hotkeys14:46
ArneGoetjedpm: here14:47
debfxRiddell: if the the cached brightness doesn't match the current brightness, it doesn't change the brightness14:48
debfxand also checks the value of brightness_in_hardware14:49
dpmArneGoetje, I was just commenting bug 450349 with Riddell and JontheEchidna, as it seems that the expected behaviour for language-selector would be to install the kde-l10n-* packages, which does not seem to do in all cases14:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 450349 in kde-l10n-ca "kde-l10n-* packages should be installed by default along with Kubuntu language packs" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45034914:51
ArneGoetjedpm: actually the latest ubiquity should pull it automatically now... I will test it with the latest daily plus updates.14:57
dpmArneGoetje, ah, sounds good. Could you please comment on the bug with the outcome of the test when you're done?14:58
ArneGoetjedpm: sure15:01
dpmthanks15:02
Riddelldebfx: yeah so presumably powerdevil would need to do the same.  also an on screen indicator would be a big bonus15:23
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lex79JontheEchidna: do we want choqok 1.0~alpha2 ? it's too late?19:01
JontheEchidnatoo late I'd say19:01
lex79ok19:02
lex79oh, I thought that we had the alpha1 in archive, we have still 0.6.6, so it's too late really :)19:06
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jussi01Riddell: kubotujust doesnt like you :P19:53
jussi01argh.19:54
jussi01scrolled back and forgot to scroll forward19:54
jussi01so thats like from afew days back :P19:54
DaskreEchjussi01: Ha ha You have joined the Higgs boson in time travelling19:55
DaskreEchLynx is LTS for Kubuntu ?20:02
lex79yes20:05
DaskreEchok20:09
EagleScreenhello20:18
DaskreEchhi20:18
EagleScreenI feel that Arora loads pages faster in Kubuntu than in other distributions as OpenSuse, anybody can think why can be it?20:19
DaskreEchplacebo efect?20:21
* Sput knows someone who claims that firefox renders faster than arora20:21
tsimpsonmaybe it's to do with how they compiled Qt, but it's not a trivial thing to find out20:21
EagleScreenmaybe.. because Qt libraries are the same20:29
lex79JontheEchidna: I've 40 arora entries in khotkey kcm20:37
JontheEchidnamaybe we should remove it to be on the safe side... iirc it came in pretty late after feature freeze20:39
firephotois the karmic installer suppose to download  and install all(?) the language packs?20:47
tsimpsonprobably not20:48
JontheEchidnalex79: btw, with the latest kernel, deleting files works. (you can see the deletion in dolphin without reloading)20:48
lex79JontheEchidna: yay :) and works also for extract archive? can you see the folder when you exctract an archive?20:50
firephotothere's a skip button too as the installer progresses. not sure what it's suppose to skip. seems to finish the install anyway when you click it but you just don't get to see it doing it's finishing thing.20:52
lex79JontheEchidna: I tried, yes it works20:52
EagleScreenkarmic installer does not download language packages for me, i need to run language-selector later to install them21:02
lex79removing all arora entries manually and reinstallation kubuntu-default-settings the problem of duplicate entries disappears21:11
EagleScreenall you have done a good work with Karmic, congratulations21:51
JontheEchidna:)21:52
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DaskreEchkolala Really does feel a lot nicer not only am I not hitting on any showstopper bugs (other than sound) It feels faster than Jackalope22:11
Tscheesy_on Karmic i have no Keycode-respond in xev on "Fn+BrightnessRaise/Lower" anymore - Kubuntu Netbook Edition, HW:nc10, vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic22:23
Tscheesy_(within Jaunty i used it with: xbindkeys xrandr xbacklight)22:27
DaskreEchYeah I don't get PrintScreen bound to Ksnapshot anymore22:35
DaskreEchNo sure what caused that22:35
Tscheesy_re - Lock-Fn-Key works - but then my PWD is not accepted22:44
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