[00:43] <AskHL_> I have created a PPA which now contains a compiled package.  Having retrieved the GPG key using apt-key and added the PPA to the archives on my computer (remembering to apt-get update), I can find this package using apt-get search.  But from inside Synaptic the package doesn't appear even though I search for its precise name.  What could possibly be the reason for this?
[00:44] <AskHL_> I mean apt-cache search, not apt-get search.
[00:45] <wgrant> AskHL_: Did the package successfully build?
[00:45] <wgrant> Which is your PPA?
[00:46] <AskHL_> wgrant, it built successfully.  Actually I can find it from by navigating the menus in Synaptic
[00:46] <AskHL_> ...find it from the lists by navi...
[00:47] <wgrant> I don't use Synaptic, but IIRC it has some extra search indices that might not be updated frequently.
[00:47] <AskHL_> It's just that it doesn't turn up in a search
[00:48] <AskHL_> wgrant, thank you.  I'll take a closer look at what synaptic is doing.
[00:50] <AskHL_> Ahh, of course.  It must be because of the "quick search" feature not updating immediately.  An ordinary search does in fact work.  Thanks again
[01:28] <jkakar> Is it just me, or is Launchpad (edge) mega slow?
[01:30] <wgrant> jkakar: Pretty quick (Launchpad-relative) for me.
[01:30] <jkakar> wgrant: Cool, thanks.
[01:31] <jkakar> I'm seeing 18-24s page loads. :/
[01:32] <wgrant> jkakar: Which pages?
[01:32] <jkakar> wgrant: project overview and individual bug pages.
[01:32] <wgrant> Here it's < 5s for most pages, which is better than normal...
[01:32] <jkakar> Interesting, a milestone page with 112 bugs just loaded in 5.8s.
[01:33] <wgrant> Lots of that was probably SQL time, too.
[01:33] <jkakar> Ah well, yay for a noisy internet connection.
[06:10] <SodaPhish_> hey all
[06:10] <SodaPhish_> question: how do I delete a project I created in LP?
[06:10] <SodaPhish_> mthaddon, I just sent you an email...
[06:10] <SodaPhish_> not sure if you're on or not.
[06:12] <wgrant> SodaPhish_: Ask a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion
[06:12] <SodaPhish_> wgrant, aight.  SO, emailing mthaddon wasn't the right course?   ;-)
[06:13] <lifeless> emailing a specific person that could be on leave or anything is never the right course ;)
[06:13] <SodaPhish_> I know... I was being smug
[06:13] <SodaPhish_> or glib
[06:14] <SodaPhish_> or something
[06:18] <SodaPhish_> wow, lively group.
[06:18] <SodaPhish_> okay, so I posted my questions... now I'll leave you all to your silence.
[06:19] <spiv> Ah... sweet, sweet silence.
[06:27] <MTecknology> spiv: HI!
[06:28] <spiv> Good afternoon.
[06:28] <MTecknology> you mean morning
[06:28] <MTecknology> It's barely after midnight
[06:30] <spiv> If by "barely" you mean, "sixteen and a half hours", sure ;)
[06:30] <MTecknology> 01:30 here :P
[06:31] <MTecknology> doing a paper and then taking an exam 08:00
[06:36] <micahg> ah, the global community :)
[06:36] <micahg> @now
[06:37] <MTecknology> micahg: write my paper
[06:37]  * micahg is still at work and it's after midnight :)
[06:37] <MTecknology> so - it sounds like LP is running w/o issues and w/o users asking questions
[06:37] <MTecknology> nice quiet day on irc?
[06:38] <micahg> almost a 5 hour gap in here...
[06:56] <maxb> Did dev.lp.net just break?
[06:59] <maxb> The Launchpad ancillary wikis ({dev,help}.launchpad.net) seem to have just gone offline
[07:00] <MTecknology> spiv: quiet day over?
[07:03] <spiv> MTecknology: apparently!
[07:23] <yann2> hello
[07:23] <yann2> I am having massive issues reporting bugs since launchpad has been upgraded to 3
[07:23] <yann2> I want to report a bug against open-iscsi
[07:23] <yann2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-iscsi
[07:23] <yann2> how can I do this? I click on report bug it sends me to the wiki, which doesnt work
[07:25] <micahg> yann2: this is a question for #ubuntu-bugs, but you can use ubuntu-bug open-iscsi
[07:26] <yann2> its for a server...
[07:26] <micahg> are you on an ubuntu machine right now?
[07:27] <yann2> yes
[07:27] <micahg> you can still use ubuntu-bug
[07:27] <yann2> well it will send my own machine details
[07:27] <yann2> and it doesnt even have openiscsi installed
[07:27] <micahg> that should be ok, I think
[07:28] <micahg> yeah, it'll just note you don't have it installed
[07:28] <micahg> they are working on bug submission from the command line
[07:28] <yann2> and its not the same version of ubuntu neither
[07:34] <maxb> Is there a LOSA around? {dev,help}.lp.net are down
[07:35] <MTecknology> maxb: It's known
[08:26] <wgrant> yann2: Why not run ubuntu-bug on the server...?
[08:26] <yann2> wgrant > if its the same than on my laptop it s a GTK program
[08:27] <wgrant> yann2: It also has a CLI frontend.
[08:38] <yann2> what package is it in wgrant ?
[08:38] <yann2> is it in main?
[08:39] <wgrant> It's on the CDs and installed by default (even on servers, I believe), so yes, it is in main.
[08:39] <wgrant> I presume it's in the apport package.
[08:40] <wgrant> It is.
[08:40] <wgrant> yann2: ^^
[08:42] <yann2> yhamon@nomachine:~$ ubuntu-bug
[08:42] <yann2> -bash: ubuntu-bug: command not found
[08:42] <yann2> yhamon@nomachine:~$ apt-cache search --names-only ubuntu-bug
[08:42] <yann2> yhamon@nomachine:~$
[08:42] <yann2> ah apport
[08:42] <yann2> ok :)
[08:43] <wgrant> It's in the server and uec seeds. Which release is that?
[08:44] <yann2> hardy, its in apport
[08:44] <wgrant> Ah. Might not have been installed by default back then.
[08:44] <yann2> but then it wont work for machines that dont have access to internet :)
[08:45] <wgrant> What would you like to do? Your options are:
[08:45] <wgrant> ...
[08:45] <wgrant>   K: Keep report file for sending later or copying to somewhere else
[08:45] <wgrant> That is probably why that option exists.
[08:46] <yann2> ok thx
[08:47] <yann2> rah it crashes my console
[08:48] <yann2> bah, I give up.
[08:48] <yann2> thanks for the help
[08:48] <wgrant> Use the link at the bottom of the wiki page.
[08:48] <wgrant> That will let you report bugs without apport.
[08:49] <yann2> thanks
[08:49] <wgrant> But it is strongly, strongly discouraged.
[08:50] <yann2> I want to report a bug that says "openiscsi should not disconnect shares on upgrade"
[08:50] <yann2> I don't understand how much additional infos would be necessary
[08:50] <wgrant> The version of the package, for one thing.
[08:51] <yann2> I used to be able to select the ubuntu version int he web interface :P
[08:52] <wgrant> No.
[08:52] <wgrant> That was never possible.
[08:52] <yann2> would have been a good idea 0:-)
[08:53] <wgrant> Certainly.
[08:53] <wgrant> But apparently Bugs devs disagree...
[08:54] <yann2> well understand me, I used to be able to do something in a way, now I need to install 5MB on my production servers, copy files around, and well, it doesnt even work
[08:54] <yann2> it just seems more complicated and I wonder how many people will just stop reporting bugs
[08:55] <yann2> sure, most power users wont mind :/
[08:55] <micahg1> yann2: I'm pretty sure console base apport will be a feature in lucid
[08:55] <wgrant> Note that many Ubuntu developers vehemently disagree with the enforced ubuntu-bug usage.
[08:55] <yann2> then hoy do you report bugs that are not related to a package in particular? :(
[08:55] <wgrant> micahg: It works fine in Karmic...
[08:56] <micahg> wgrant: ok, but I meant for LTS
[08:56] <micahg> yann2: probably go in another project
[08:56] <micahg> you can come in #ubuntu-bugs and ask :)
[08:56] <yann2> I wanted to report that there were two CD burners in karmic desktop at some point
[08:57] <yann2> nautilus and brasero, both in different places in the menu, but doing the same thing
[08:57] <micahg> yann2: nautilus is the file manager with a burn feature I guess
[08:57] <micahg> but brasero is the actual burner
[08:58] <yann2> you actually had "Application accessories Nautilus cd writer"  and "applications Sound&video Brasero cd burner"
[08:58] <yann2> or something like that
[08:58] <micahg> oh, you could probably report against ubuntu-desktop
[08:58] <yann2> tried
[08:59] <yann2> well I tried using the web interface... :)
[08:59] <micahg> ubuntu-bug ubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <wgrant> micahg: Er, why?
[09:00] <micahg> why what?  if he wants to report a bug against installing 2 burners for ubuntu-desktop
[09:00] <wgrant> Nautilus and Brasero must both be installed, so it's not a metapackage problem.
[09:00] <micahg> wgrant: why?
[09:01] <wgrant> Nautilus only handles burning files.
[09:01] <micahg> ah, so there is no bug like I said originally
[09:01] <wgrant> There is a bug.
[09:01] <wgrant> There are two shown.
[09:01] <wgrant> But it is not a metapackage bug.
[09:02] <micahg> huh?
[09:02] <yann2> (it was a while back :)  )
[09:02] <micahg> if they are installed, shouldn't they be shown?
[09:02] <micahg> and shouldn't this actually move to #ubuntu-bugs
[09:02] <wgrant> There is no point having two items.
[09:03] <wgrant> And I don't have the Nautilus CD burner stuff; are you sure you don't have a residual nautilus-cd-burner installation?
[09:03] <yann2> nah it was a karmic install like 3 weeks ago in a vm
[09:13] <geser> it gets OT but how did you manage to install both as brasero conflicts nautilus-cd-burner?
[09:14] <alkisg_work> Hello! Can I get "debug debs" from a ppa, similar to what https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash says for the primary ubuntu archives?
[09:15] <oSoMoN> hi all
[09:15] <wgrant> alkisg_work: Discussing it literally right now.
[09:15] <alkisg_work> Heh :
[09:16] <alkisg_work> Thanks wgrant, I'll downgrade to the version that's in the primary archives
[09:16] <oSoMoN> I'm looking at the integrated code review process in launchpad
[09:16] <oSoMoN> so reviews are linked to a branch
[09:16] <bigjools> alkisg_work: so the short answer is, not right now, but wgrant will make your wish come true
[09:16] <oSoMoN> what happens when a branch that had reviews linked to it is deleted?
[09:16] <wgrant> oSoMoN: The reviews are deleted too.
[09:16] <wgrant> But you don't have to delete branches.
[09:17] <wgrant> I don't particularly like the fact that they can be deleted.
[09:17] <wgrant> Most projects do not delete them.
[09:17] <oSoMoN> well one may want to delete a particular branch, but I agree that in general there's no need to do that
[09:18] <oSoMoN> thanks for the answer
[09:19] <alkisg_work> Uh, would it be possible for someone to help me find a direct http link to the debug version of "italc-client" .deb for jaunty? He'd save me from having to modify the sources of a lot of client PCs...
[09:19] <wgrant> alkisg_work: The ddeb, you mean?
[09:19] <alkisg_work> wgrant: Yes, I think so
[09:20] <alkisg_work> (I'd like to produce a backtrace)
[09:20] <wgrant> alkisg_work: Why do you want it? Why not just submit the crash and let it be retraced automatically?
[09:20] <alkisg_work> wgrant: I don't get a crash dump
[09:20] <wgrant> Ah.
[09:20] <alkisg_work> Uhm... could I modify some setting to get a crash dump?
[09:21] <wgrant> You could. But it's easy enough to grab the ddeb.
[09:22] <alkisg_work> (btw, that's what I'm getting: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/293711/)
[09:22] <alkisg_work> *** glibc detected *** ica: corrupted double-linked list: 0x0a3abe30 ***
[09:23] <wgrant> http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/i/italc/italc-client-dbgsym_1.0.9.1-0ubuntu9_i386.ddeb
[09:23] <alkisg_work> [09:23] <alkisg_work> Thanks a lot wgrant! May your wishes also come true :)
[09:47] <jml> Hmm. The "Affects me too" feature still doesn't seem to stop random "Me too" comments.
[09:47] <wgrant> It's not exactly obvious.
[09:48] <wgrant> Nor does it do anything.
[09:48] <micahg> yes, a count of affects me too would be nice :)
[09:51]  * micahg is filing a bug for that now
[09:52] <micahg> bug 451988
[09:53] <wgrant> I think there are several of those already.
[09:53] <wgrant> Go and comment 'me too' on them.
[09:53] <micahg> I didn't see any
[09:53] <micahg> I searched for me too
[09:53] <micahg> count
[09:53] <micahg> and wishlist bugs
[09:53] <wgrant> Hmm.
[10:02] <jml> bigjools, what ought I do for https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/74247
[10:05] <bigjools> jml: assign to losas
[10:06] <bigjools> and they will disable
[10:06] <jml> bigjools, ok.
[10:06] <jml> bigjools, thanks.
[10:16] <jml> hmmm.
[10:16] <jml> I wonder if I should put launchpadlib into lpx
[10:17] <wgrant> Quite possibly.
[10:17] <wgrant> How is the CHR marathon going?
[10:17] <jml> wgrant, I keep getting distracted by other things.
[10:19]  * bigjools knows that feeling
[10:27] <jml> also, the coding task I wanted to do to reduce CHR load has turned out to be a lot bigger than I imagined.
[10:27] <BjornT> jml: for next week's CHR, maybe we should try having someone that hasn't that much responsibilites in general :) a week of CHR is similar like having vacation, in the sense that you need to plan for someone else to take care of your normal responsibilities.
[10:28] <BjornT> the more responsibilites you have, the more you need to prepare in advance
[10:28] <jml> BjornT, yes. I strongly agree.
[10:46] <jml> also
[10:47] <jml> vocabularies are almost always a terrible idea
[10:48] <jml> Most of the time I want to link to a bug, say, I don't already know the number.
[10:57] <jml> danilos, Ursinha: do either of you know what's going on with https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/85564 ?
[10:58] <mariuz> hello , i have one question about ppa , how do i know if a ppa is used ? for example https://edge.launchpad.net/~mapopa/+archive/qt4.6
[10:58] <mariuz> i don't know how many people are using it
[10:58] <jml> mariuz, yeah, that's a pain.
[10:58] <jml> mariuz, it's a known bug that more than one person is keen to fix.
[10:59] <noodles775> mariuz: no - at the moment you can only see that it's being used by the developer (in the PPA statistics section), but download stats are on the agenda :)
[11:00] <mariuz> ok thanks
[11:00] <jml> soyuz folk, who should I punt this question to? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/85631
[11:01] <bigjools> jml: reading it ...
[11:01] <jml> bigjools, thanks.
[11:01] <wgrant> That was discussed in #ubuntu-devel or similar a couple of days ago.
[11:01] <wgrant> It's a bug in the package.
[11:02] <wgrant> (discussed by the asker of that question)
[11:03]  * jml answers appropriately.
[11:03] <wgrant> Anyway, package bug.
[11:03] <bigjools> it is a package bug
[11:04] <bigjools> it even says that in the build output
[11:04] <jml> wgrant, bigjools: thanks.
[11:04] <bigjools> jml: I'll answer it
[11:04] <jml> bigjools, ok thanks.
[11:04] <jml> now, only one _actual_ question left, which I need translations help for.
[11:05] <jml> time to prepare a list of admin tasks.
[11:07] <bigjools> jml: if you're curious, it's because translations are only stripped in official builders and that's where the package bug is
[11:08] <jml> bigjools, good to know :)
[11:16] <jml> danilos, Ursinha: actually, there's another question: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/85512
[11:28] <jml> someone wants to have their project deleted and a new project group of the same name created
[11:28] <jml> I don't know how to actually do that
[11:33] <mrevell> jml: AFAIK it's a LOSA task.
[11:33] <jml> :(
[11:33] <mthaddon> creating new project groups was always a kiko thing
[11:33] <jml> mthaddon, I have permission to do that, I think.
[11:34] <jml> mthaddon, but I don't think I can do it as long as there's a project of the same name that already exists
[11:34] <mthaddon> jml: you'll probably have to rename the old project first
[11:34] <wgrant> Rename, deactivate, create.
[11:34] <jml> mthaddon, ahh, rename. thanks.
[11:36]  * jml files https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/452056
[11:40] <jml> and projects can be renamed via the API?
[12:30] <CT3n> how can i check a location in translations so i could understand the context of a scentence or words? is that possible?
[12:56] <mpt> Is there any way I can get a combined list of bug reports that are either (a) filed against the update-manager project or (b) filed against the update-manager Ubuntu source package?
[13:02] <jml> mpt, no.
[13:02] <jml> mpt, at least, not through the web UI.
[13:09] <Appiah> On the OpenID page it says sourceforge is supported , but it's not.
[13:13] <jpds> Appiah: It is.
[13:14] <Appiah> just asked in sf since I cant login and they say it's not
[13:14] <jpds> Appiah: https://sourceforge.net/account/login.php click the OpenID icon and enter your LP OpenID link?
[13:14] <Appiah> did
[13:14] <Appiah> worked before for me >_>
[13:15] <Appiah> http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/OpenID#SupportedProviders
[13:19] <jml> Appiah, there was an issue with this recently. we've had word that SF has fixed the bug & are waiting to deploy it.
[13:19] <jml> Appiah, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/canonical-identity-provider/+bug/449105
[13:26] <Appiah> ah
[13:48] <jml> is there a way to get a web URL for an API object?
[13:52] <james_w> I've seen people do hacks with self_link
[13:52] <james_w> I'm not sure if web_link was recently added
[13:54] <jml> james_w, thanks.
[14:09] <Oli```> Hi all. Is there anyone here that could change my lp nick to something that doesn't contain half my email address?
[14:10] <idnar> you can edit it yourself on your profile page, I think
[14:10] <jpds> Oli```: Change your "Name" on https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+edit
[14:12] <Oli```> yeawoohoo! thanks jpds
[14:32] <kiko> jml, I think they can, but I've never done that myself
[14:32] <jml> kiko, web URLs for API objects?
[14:37] <noodles775> jml: bug 316694
[14:37] <jml> noodles775, thanks.
[14:39] <kiko> jml, renaming projects via the API -- it does require .Admin though
[14:39] <jml> kiko, yeah, it requires .Admin
[14:39] <jml> which sadly I lack.
[14:39] <kiko> I have it, what do you want renamed?
[14:40] <jml> kiko, Rename tqila to tqla and rename puredyne to puredyne-old
[14:41] <kiko> one sec
[14:42] <jml> kiko, thanks.
[14:43] <kiko> https://edge.launchpad.net/tqla
[14:43] <kiko> https://edge.launchpad.net/puredyne-orig
[14:44] <jml> kiko, thanks :)
[14:45] <kiko> jml, if they want puredyne-orig renamed to something else later let me know
[14:45] <kiko> that's one way of avoiding a deactivated project
[14:46] <jml> kiko, will do.
[14:47] <kiko> jml, I take it puredyn want a PG?
[14:47] <kiko> +e
[14:47] <jml> kiko, yes
[14:47] <kiko> gtcha
[14:47] <jml> kiko, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/85377
[15:01] <jml> danilo_, now that I know you are around, I have some translations questions for you
[15:01] <danilo_> jml: the ones I already responded to or some new ones? :)
[15:02] <jml> maybe some new ones.
[15:02] <jml> I'll have a look :)
[16:05] <RainCT> Hi
[16:07] <RainCT> launchpad.net/zeitgeist is showing an obsolete version in the Downloads pane at the right of the page. Bug?
[16:08] <dtchen> is there a way to view the activity log for a bug?
[16:08] <maxb> Append /+activity to the URL
[16:08] <maxb> and argue vociferously in the bug about how it sucks that it was removed
[16:25] <dtchen> maxb: thanks!
[17:10] <sbordet> jml, there for some question ?
[17:11] <jml> sbordet, depends on the question? :)
[17:11] <sbordet> I would like to report some bug about karmic, and followed instructions on how to
[17:11] <sbordet> I tried to create an account in launchpad
[17:11] <sbordet> but says my email is already taken
[17:11] <sbordet> try to login, no dice
[17:12] <sbordet> try to get a new password, it says that launchpad cannot find my account details
[17:12] <sbordet> I am stuck now, jml :)
[17:12] <sbordet> you know what should I do ?
[17:13] <jml> hmm.
[17:13] <jml> sbordet, I'm not sure. I'll look into it. will be a few minutes, I'm afraid.
[17:13] <sbordet> no problem, ping me here
[17:13] <sbordet> need details, jml ? e.g. my email ?
[17:14] <jml> sbordet, I'll let you know.
[17:14] <sbordet> I don't think I ever had an account... if it's easier to delete it, just do it, and I'll recreate it
[17:15] <jml> will do.
[17:15] <jml> I'm also on a phone call right now
[17:15] <jml> which basically prevents me doing anything that requires new thinking :)
[17:15] <beuno> sbordet, do you have an ubuntu one account?
[17:16] <sbordet> beuno, no, have not used ubuntu one yet
[17:16] <beuno> sbordet, have you requested ubuntu CDs?
[17:16] <beuno> I
[17:16] <sbordet> I have an ubuntu forums account
[17:16] <beuno> I'm trying to see if you have an openid account, but not a LP one
[17:16] <sbordet> no, have not requested cds
[17:16] <beuno> there used to be a bug around that
[17:18] <sbordet> I don't have an openid account that I manage, unless you refer to openid support provided by, e.g., blogger.com
[17:19] <beuno> ok, so it's not that
[17:19] <beuno> what's the email address?
[17:20] <sbordet> beuno, simone.bordet@gmail.com
[17:21] <beuno> mthaddon, any LOSA around to check if that email is in the DB?  ^
[17:23] <matsubara> sbordet, see if you got new email from Launchpad to reset your password
[17:24] <matsubara> beuno, sbordet: I just did the reset password workflow from login.launchpad.net instead of from launchpad.net/+login
[17:25] <sbordet> matsubara, got email and reset password
[17:25] <sbordet> it directs me to launchpad with openid
[17:26] <matsubara> sbordet, are you able to login now?
[17:26] <sbordet> matsubara:
[17:26] <sbordet> Oops!
[17:26] <sbordet> Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
[17:26] <sbordet> We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience.
[17:26] <sbordet> (Error ID: OOPS-1384G2331)
[17:27] <matsubara> that's a start, a bad one but a start. :-)
[17:28] <matsubara> I need to wait 10 min for that log report to be available.
[17:28] <sbordet> sure
[17:32] <matsubara> sinzui, have you seen an oops like: OOPS-1384G2331 before?
[17:34] <sinzui> matsubara: no, but registry does not often look at login issues. This is defintely coming from SSO too
[17:34] <jml> ok, so where were we.
[17:35] <matsubara> sinzui, sorry to bother you then. I guess it's foundations then
[17:37] <sinzui> login, and creation stuff is usually foundations, but since this traceback shows account, that may also mean it is ISD who manages SSO
[17:37] <matsubara> thanks sinzui
[17:41] <sbordet> guys, I got another email asking me to finish my account
[17:41] <sbordet> I entered name and again password
[17:41] <sbordet> got this error:
[17:41] <sbordet> The email address simone.bordet@gmail.com is already registered in the Launchpad Login Service (used by the Ubuntu shop and other OpenID sites). Please use the same email and password to log into Launchpad.
[17:43] <sbordet> tried to login as before, but got another oops
[17:43] <matsubara> sbordet, what happens if you try to login using: https://login.launchpad.net/
[17:43] <matsubara> ?
[17:44] <sbordet> matsubara, I get a message saying that:
[17:44] <sbordet> The email address 'simone.bordet@gmail.com' has not yet been confirmed. We sent an email to that address with instructions on how to confirm that it belongs to you.
[17:44] <sbordet> and I do not proceed
[17:48] <matsubara> sbordet, I think you're hitting bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/415977
[17:50] <matsubara> sbordet, not sure what's the workaround though since when we tried the reset password using login.launchpad.net you hit an oops
[17:51] <sbordet> matsubara, yes :(
[17:51] <sbordet> matsubara, can you delete my account entirely ?
[17:53] <matsubara> sbordet, I can't. one way of workaround this is to go to launchpad.net, click the login/register button, add your email address like: simone.bordet+lp@gmail.com and then proceed with the new account creation
[17:54] <matsubara> this will effectively create a new account on Launchpad that will allow you to file bugs on Ubuntu as you intended initially
[17:54] <matsubara> later on you can merge your old account with the newly created account
[17:54] <sbordet> matsubara, but should I create that gmail account ?
[17:55] <LaPingvino> the plus and everything behind it leads to the address mentioned before the plus
[17:55] <matsubara> sbordet, no need, gmail works that way. if you add a +anything to your account it'll go to your main gmail account
[17:55] <LaPingvino> the plus and the rest are ignored by gmail
[17:59] <sbordet> oh well, every day is good to learn something :)
[17:59] <sbordet> I'll try
[18:01] <sbordet> matsubara, that worked
[21:47] <Remaille> hi, I am abit lost with bzr (beginner). I uploaded a full source code on LP with bzr
[21:48] <Remaille> now, I have received another set from somebody else and i would like do merge it with the one on LP
[21:48] <Remaille> it is translations actually
[21:49] <Remaille> how coudl i do that ? bzr commit sends me "not a branch"
[21:49] <Remaille> thanks
[21:51] <mathepic> bzr branch MAIN_LOC
[21:51] <mathepic> then go into the directory created
[21:52] <mathepic> then bzr merge OTHER_LOC
[21:55] <Remaille> hum, sorry for not being "clear" : on LP i have a source code translated at 50%
[21:55] <Remaille> i juste received the other half of the translated file
[21:55] <Remaille> filenales are the same, directory structure too
[21:55] <Remaille> thnaks :)
[21:55] <mzz> Remaille: so the thing you received isn't a bzr branch at all, right?
[21:56] <Remaille> yes juste a big zip with plenty of python files in it
[21:56] <mzz> Remaille: I guess I'd just check out what's on launchpad, then untar or whatever the files you received on top of that, then "bzr st"/"bzr di" to check for sanity, then commit and push to launchpad
[21:56] <mzz> and "check out" was the wrong word, I meant "get"
[21:57] <Remaille> bzr st : not a branch
[21:57] <Remaille> :s
[21:57] <mzz> Remaille: that's assuming the zip you got contains no .bzr directory and was based on the same version of the code as what's in launchpad
[21:57] <mzz> Remaille: how did you get what's in launchpad?
[21:58] <Remaille> i pushed it as a very first commit a few days ago
[21:58] <mzz> Remaille: the idea is to unzip the files you got on top of your bzr branch of what's in launchpad, while leaving the .bzr directory intact
[21:58] <Remaille> one guy translated the menus of the soft, one another translated the tabs
[21:58] <mzz> Remaille: I can't give you exact instructions without knowing the exact branch names and pathnames involved
[21:59] <Remaille> https://code.launchpad.net/linuxedu
[21:59] <mzz> Remaille: do you still have the branch you pushed to launchpad?
[21:59] <Remaille> the folder are ~/sadms/sadms_marc and ~/sadms/sadms_bruno
[21:59] <Remaille>  ~/sadms/sadms_bruno has been pushed to LP
[22:00] <Remaille> yes
[22:00] <mzz> Remaille: ok. "bzr st" inside ~/sadms/sadms_bruno gives no output, right?
[22:00] <mzz> Remaille: and "bzr st" inside the other sadms gives "not a branch"?
[22:00] <Remaille> mzz, right no output
[22:00] <Remaille> mzz, yes
[22:01] <mzz> Remaille: then I'd "cp -r ../sadms_marc/* ." from inside sadms_bruno, then run "bzr st", assuming I understand what was modified correctly
[22:01] <mzz> specifically: I'm hoping they didn't both modify the same files
[22:02] <Remaille> mzz, they did ! ;-)
[22:02] <Remaille> :-s
[22:02] <mzz> it's possible this cp operation replaces a few files with older versions. "bzr st" and "bzr di" should tell you if that happened, and you can then just "bzr revert" to get the newer files back
[22:02] <mzz> ok, bzr can still help, but this'll be a bit more of a hassle
[22:02] <Remaille> i thought it would be simple as "bzr merge"
[22:02] <mzz> oh wait
[22:03] <mzz> you only have the one revision of this in bzr, right?
[22:03] <Remaille> yes
[22:03] <mzz> err, that makes this more awkward
[22:03] <Remaille> gosh
[22:04] <mzz> if the version of the code modified by sadms_marc was in bzr you could branch that revision, commit the changes from sadms_marc on top of that, and then merge the two branches
[22:04] <mzz> hmm, let me see if there's a trick to make bzr still help here
[22:05] <mzz> Remaille: the problem is that without ancestry information bzr can't tell which changes in sadms_marc are desirable and which aren't
[22:06] <mzz> Remaille: if bzr knows about the version both sadms_marc and sadms_bruno are based on it can use that to tell what's what
[22:06] <mzz> I think I'd just do the merge by hand here
[22:07] <mzz> someone else here might have a better idea though.
[22:14] <Remaille> thanks a lot mzz I learned a lot on bzr :)
[22:14] <Remaille> (need to learn more ! ;-))
[22:15] <mzz> Remaille: basically you have more information than bzr does (you know about the previous revision, so you can tell which of the differences between _marc and _bruno are actually changes from that original revision to _bruno and which are the actual changes from that original revision to _marc which you want)
[22:15] <mzz> bzr doesn't know about that original revision, so it doesn't know what the changes from that revision to _marc are, only what the differences between _marc and _bruno are
[22:16] <mzz> and that's not enough information to do the merge automatically
[22:17] <mzz> this will obviously get better as you use bzr a bit longer and you start having the version of the code contributors work on in bzr (or even better: contributors start using bzr too)
[22:17] <mzz> oh, also #bzr is a good place to ask about this kind of thing (I actually thought this was #bzr)
[22:19] <Remaille> thanks i didn't know about this chan
[22:28] <Remaille> see you :)