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* pleia2 waves to Saj0577 02:19
Saj0577hey pleia202:21
pleia2Saj0577 is going to help us with some of our dev and contributing stuff :)02:21
Saj0577pleia2: so now i just sort out my group and then we go from there yeah?02:21
* Saj0577 needs to add this channel to autojoin02:21
pleia2Saj0577: yep!02:21
pleia2Saj0577: once you're ready, feel free to drop a note to the mailing list describing what you want to cover and introducing your team02:22
pleia2or we can just work informally here and on the wiki for now ;)02:22
Saj0577okays. here is good i not to good with the emailing lists i read and reply but creating a message like a whole new realm for me lol02:23
pleia2yeah, I understand02:24
Saj0577So should i put my name on those wikis now just so people know you think?02:24
pleia2yep, that's fine02:25
pleia2we all just kinda jump in, when someone wants to work on something we work with others who have signed up to do things02:26
Saj0577okays. right i will work on getting the team sorted and then we are sorted02:27
pleia2sounds good :)02:27
Saj0577right well its 0230 here so going to grab some sleep, but if need me or anything crops up just leave me a pm02:32
pleia2will do02:33
Saj0577take care everyone02:34
Vantraxahh crap, found a MASSIVE bug in karmic...02:48
Vantraxoi pleia2 do you know if they test the new releases in organisations at all...03:02
cprofittwhat is the massive bug?03:03
Vantraxif you have a valid userbase of say 3k users (like I do) guess how many user options show up in the login.03:04
cprofitt3K03:04
Vantraxand you cant change the login to do the normal username/password query03:05
cprofitt... that kills it03:05
cprofittwow...03:05
Vantraxyep03:05
VantraxMassive bug03:05
cprofittthat is a major screw up03:05
Vantraxyep03:05
doctormoVantrax: That's a fairly bad bug03:05
cprofittsounds more like a feature miss... more than a bug03:05
Vantraxworked it out today03:05
doctormoThat says to me that the designers were down a coal mine thinking the design up.03:05
doctormoOh come on, even I could consider the effects of user lists on ldap networks.03:06
Vantraxits a great idea, but it lacks the feature/design flexibility of the old version03:06
cprofittis it an issue with Karmic or the 'piece' used?03:06
Vantraxits a GDM issue03:06
Vantraxits kinda like the old fast user switching applet issues, but you could disable the applet03:07
Vantraxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/451824/03:07
Vantraxi logged it03:07
Vantraxive been hitting up the gnome docco, but still no luck finding a way to force a standard login03:07
Vantraxhrm, i might have a way to hack it in there03:11
VantraxBOOO03:12
Vantraxyou can hack it in from gconf-tool203:12
Vantraxbut no menu way to do it03:12
Vantraxeww.. but it looks nasty03:14
Vantraxso much for gnome being all customisation friendly...03:15
cprofittI guess you have to use KDE?03:16
Vantraxno... i just have to recode...03:17
VantraxKDE is even nastier for large scale deployment03:17
Vantraxharder to lock down03:17
cprofittah03:21
* Vantrax cries03:25
swoodywhat's wrong Vantrax ?03:25
VantraxGDM rewrite messed alot of things up03:25
swoodyah, that stinks :(03:26
Vantraxno kidding03:29
VantraxI have to develop an SOE based on it.03:29
swoody:/03:32
doctormoVantrax: This issue is of interest to me too, since I'll be doing an ldap logon as a showcase for the SETC.03:35
Vantraxive got a workaround, it just doesnt look that nice03:36
VantraxIll let you go through my build docco when its done03:36
VantraxIm using AD  instead of NDS now tho03:36
Vantraxafk getting food03:36
doctormoNDS?03:37
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VantraxNovell Directory Services03:43
doctormo_Thanks Vantrax03:55
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Saj0577hey all21:05
pleia2g'day Saj057721:06
doctormohey pleia2, Saj057721:06
Saj0577hey pleia2 irssi giving me trouble :(21:06
Saj0577hey doctormo21:06
pleia2Saj0577: aw, what's it doing?21:07
Saj0577pleia2: just keeps causing myy computer to lose connection. nothig else is losing connection :S21:09
pleia2:\21:09
pleia2weird21:09
Saj0577yeah nvm21:10
Saj0577hows everyone today?21:10
doctormoI've downloaded 200 TED talks, I'll go through them over the next few weeks :-)21:11
pleia2doctormo: hehe, nice21:11
Saj0577pleia2: just a little update i think th Fg will be sorted by end of tomorrow to start work just on doing some wiki pages then going to ask all previous members if sill want to help and get new members21:15
pleia2Saj0577: great! I'm actually busy this weekend at a conference, but others in the team will be happy to help out21:15
Saj0577pleia2: you know you said there are 4 main people runnign it who are th eother 3 just so i know :)21:16
doctormoSaj0577: This project?21:17
pleia2Saj0577: 5, doctormo, bodhi_zazen, cprofitt and Vantrax21:17
Saj0577okays cheers.21:17
pleia2doctormo: Saj0577 is working to rally the beginners team education group to start work on dev and advocacy courses21:17
doctormoThe board members are doctormo, bodhi_zazen, cprofitt and Vantrax and pleia2 and active people beyond that are BiosElement, paultag and c-quel. There may be some more I'm missing.21:17
doctormoSaj0577: Rally the loCo teams to help you with the Advocacy courses if you can, they'll have lots of good input.21:18
Saj0577doctormo: yeah im planning o doing so :) just at the minute getting all my ground work sorted then hopefully late tonight and tomorrow i can start talking and getting in touch with people21:19
doctormoBest thing I've found fromt he sys admin course is asking people to help organise the topics wiki page, and then working fromt hat to develop classes. Each class can later be organised into a format course, just so long as they're not too interdependant.21:21
Saj0577okay21:22
Saj0577quick question anyone around?22:24
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RanDom33I am interested in the Ubuntu Community Learning Project22:49
Saj0577hey RanDom33 what you interested in helping of doing a coruse?22:49
RanDom33Saj0577, No, I am interested in learning more about ubuntu22:50
RanDom33Saj0577, I would do a course if I knew enough to teach one.22:50
Saj0577RanDom33: okays. What area you interested in learning about?22:50
RanDom33Saj0577, everything related to ubuntu?22:50
RanDom33Saj0577, how it operates underneath the GUI..etc.22:51
Saj0577alright you been looking at the website yeah?22:52
RanDom33Saj0577, yes22:53
Saj0577RanDom33: okay. I have only just joined the team so i cant provide much information and I dont think anyone else is around but if you got any questions i can try and answer them for you22:53
RanDom33Saj0577, sys admin is what I would be interested in.22:53
Saj0577you got any experience already?22:55
RanDom33Saj0577,  i am looking to learn more about systems administration on ubuntu. I know only VERY BASIC cli usuage.22:55
Saj0577okay. i aplogise but i got to disappear quickly but im sure there will be someone around soon that cn help okay :)22:56
RanDom33Saj0577, alright thanks22:58
Saj0577no problem. talk soon.22:58
RanDom33If anyone else can help me out, suggestions, etc, I would appreciate it. Feel free to take your time.22:58

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