[02:19]  * pleia2 waves to Saj0577 
[02:21] <Saj0577> hey pleia2
[02:21] <pleia2> Saj0577 is going to help us with some of our dev and contributing stuff :)
[02:21] <Saj0577> pleia2: so now i just sort out my group and then we go from there yeah?
[02:21]  * Saj0577 needs to add this channel to autojoin
[02:21] <pleia2> Saj0577: yep!
[02:22] <pleia2> Saj0577: once you're ready, feel free to drop a note to the mailing list describing what you want to cover and introducing your team
[02:22] <pleia2> or we can just work informally here and on the wiki for now ;)
[02:23] <Saj0577> okays. here is good i not to good with the emailing lists i read and reply but creating a message like a whole new realm for me lol
[02:24] <pleia2> yeah, I understand
[02:24] <Saj0577> So should i put my name on those wikis now just so people know you think?
[02:25] <pleia2> yep, that's fine
[02:26] <pleia2> we all just kinda jump in, when someone wants to work on something we work with others who have signed up to do things
[02:27] <Saj0577> okays. right i will work on getting the team sorted and then we are sorted
[02:27] <pleia2> sounds good :)
[02:32] <Saj0577> right well its 0230 here so going to grab some sleep, but if need me or anything crops up just leave me a pm
[02:33] <pleia2> will do
[02:34] <Saj0577> take care everyone
[02:48] <Vantrax> ahh crap, found a MASSIVE bug in karmic...
[03:02] <Vantrax> oi pleia2 do you know if they test the new releases in organisations at all...
[03:03] <cprofitt> what is the massive bug?
[03:04] <Vantrax> if you have a valid userbase of say 3k users (like I do) guess how many user options show up in the login.
[03:04] <cprofitt> 3K
[03:05] <Vantrax> and you cant change the login to do the normal username/password query
[03:05] <cprofitt> ... that kills it
[03:05] <cprofitt> wow...
[03:05] <Vantrax> yep
[03:05] <Vantrax> Massive bug
[03:05] <cprofitt> that is a major screw up
[03:05] <Vantrax> yep
[03:05] <doctormo> Vantrax: That's a fairly bad bug
[03:05] <cprofitt> sounds more like a feature miss... more than a bug
[03:05] <Vantrax> worked it out today
[03:05] <doctormo> That says to me that the designers were down a coal mine thinking the design up.
[03:06] <doctormo> Oh come on, even I could consider the effects of user lists on ldap networks.
[03:06] <Vantrax> its a great idea, but it lacks the feature/design flexibility of the old version
[03:06] <cprofitt> is it an issue with Karmic or the 'piece' used?
[03:06] <Vantrax> its a GDM issue
[03:07] <Vantrax> its kinda like the old fast user switching applet issues, but you could disable the applet
[03:07] <Vantrax> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/451824/
[03:07] <Vantrax> i logged it
[03:07] <Vantrax> ive been hitting up the gnome docco, but still no luck finding a way to force a standard login
[03:11] <Vantrax> hrm, i might have a way to hack it in there
[03:12] <Vantrax> BOOO
[03:12] <Vantrax> you can hack it in from gconf-tool2
[03:12] <Vantrax> but no menu way to do it
[03:14] <Vantrax> eww.. but it looks nasty
[03:15] <Vantrax> so much for gnome being all customisation friendly...
[03:16] <cprofitt> I guess you have to use KDE?
[03:17] <Vantrax> no... i just have to recode...
[03:17] <Vantrax> KDE is even nastier for large scale deployment
[03:17] <Vantrax> harder to lock down
[03:21] <cprofitt> ah
[03:25]  * Vantrax cries
[03:25] <swoody> what's wrong Vantrax ?
[03:25] <Vantrax> GDM rewrite messed alot of things up
[03:26] <swoody> ah, that stinks :(
[03:29] <Vantrax> no kidding
[03:29] <Vantrax> I have to develop an SOE based on it.
[03:32] <swoody> :/
[03:35] <doctormo> Vantrax: This issue is of interest to me too, since I'll be doing an ldap logon as a showcase for the SETC.
[03:36] <Vantrax> ive got a workaround, it just doesnt look that nice
[03:36] <Vantrax> Ill let you go through my build docco when its done
[03:36] <Vantrax> Im using AD  instead of NDS now tho
[03:36] <Vantrax> afk getting food
[03:37] <doctormo> NDS?
[03:43] <Vantrax> Novell Directory Services
[03:55] <doctormo_> Thanks Vantrax
[21:05] <Saj0577> hey all
[21:06] <pleia2> g'day Saj0577
[21:06] <doctormo> hey pleia2, Saj0577
[21:06] <Saj0577> hey pleia2 irssi giving me trouble :(
[21:06] <Saj0577> hey doctormo
[21:07] <pleia2> Saj0577: aw, what's it doing?
[21:09] <Saj0577> pleia2: just keeps causing myy computer to lose connection. nothig else is losing connection :S
[21:09] <pleia2> :\
[21:09] <pleia2> weird
[21:10] <Saj0577> yeah nvm
[21:10] <Saj0577> hows everyone today?
[21:11] <doctormo> I've downloaded 200 TED talks, I'll go through them over the next few weeks :-)
[21:11] <pleia2> doctormo: hehe, nice
[21:15] <Saj0577> pleia2: just a little update i think th Fg will be sorted by end of tomorrow to start work just on doing some wiki pages then going to ask all previous members if sill want to help and get new members
[21:15] <pleia2> Saj0577: great! I'm actually busy this weekend at a conference, but others in the team will be happy to help out
[21:16] <Saj0577> pleia2: you know you said there are 4 main people runnign it who are th eother 3 just so i know :)
[21:17] <doctormo> Saj0577: This project?
[21:17] <pleia2> Saj0577: 5, doctormo, bodhi_zazen, cprofitt and Vantrax
[21:17] <Saj0577> okays cheers.
[21:17] <pleia2> doctormo: Saj0577 is working to rally the beginners team education group to start work on dev and advocacy courses
[21:17] <doctormo> The board members are doctormo, bodhi_zazen, cprofitt and Vantrax and pleia2 and active people beyond that are BiosElement, paultag and c-quel. There may be some more I'm missing.
[21:18] <doctormo> Saj0577: Rally the loCo teams to help you with the Advocacy courses if you can, they'll have lots of good input.
[21:19] <Saj0577> doctormo: yeah im planning o doing so :) just at the minute getting all my ground work sorted then hopefully late tonight and tomorrow i can start talking and getting in touch with people
[21:21] <doctormo> Best thing I've found fromt he sys admin course is asking people to help organise the topics wiki page, and then working fromt hat to develop classes. Each class can later be organised into a format course, just so long as they're not too interdependant.
[21:22] <Saj0577> okay
[22:24] <Saj0577> quick question anyone around?
[22:49] <RanDom33> I am interested in the Ubuntu Community Learning Project
[22:49] <Saj0577> hey RanDom33 what you interested in helping of doing a coruse?
[22:50] <RanDom33> Saj0577, No, I am interested in learning more about ubuntu
[22:50] <RanDom33> Saj0577, I would do a course if I knew enough to teach one.
[22:50] <Saj0577> RanDom33: okays. What area you interested in learning about?
[22:50] <RanDom33> Saj0577, everything related to ubuntu?
[22:51] <RanDom33> Saj0577, how it operates underneath the GUI..etc.
[22:52] <Saj0577> alright you been looking at the website yeah?
[22:53] <RanDom33> Saj0577, yes
[22:53] <Saj0577> RanDom33: okay. I have only just joined the team so i cant provide much information and I dont think anyone else is around but if you got any questions i can try and answer them for you
[22:53] <RanDom33> Saj0577, sys admin is what I would be interested in.
[22:55] <Saj0577> you got any experience already?
[22:55] <RanDom33> Saj0577,  i am looking to learn more about systems administration on ubuntu. I know only VERY BASIC cli usuage.
[22:56] <Saj0577> okay. i aplogise but i got to disappear quickly but im sure there will be someone around soon that cn help okay :)
[22:58] <RanDom33> Saj0577, alright thanks
[22:58] <Saj0577> no problem. talk soon.
[22:58] <RanDom33> If anyone else can help me out, suggestions, etc, I would appreciate it. Feel free to take your time.