[00:23] <nhandler> I'm looking at pbuilder-dist. The man page shows a 'withlog' option that I can pass to store pbuilder's output on a file. However, the example is not working for me. Is this simply an error in the man page? Or is a bug in the script itself?
[00:25] <Laney> nhandler: weird. The log is always stored in ~/pbuilder/xxx/last_operation.log
[00:25] <Laney> well I think you can pass something to override that, but I am pretty sure that withlog does nothing
[00:26] <Laney> mainonly is similarly not there afaik
[00:26] <Laney> nope, that one is
[00:26]  * Laney runs
[00:27] <nhandler> I'll check if this was fixed in the karmic version of ubuntu-dev-tools (I have jaunty). If not, I'll file a bug
[00:28] <Laney> i'm looking at the bzr source
[00:30] <Laney> I think the withlog example should just be removed
[00:30] <Laney> and a note explaining where the logfile is saved added
[00:30] <Laney> anyway, nn
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[06:40] <hyperair> anyone from motu-release here? i'd like to discuss something regarding banshee and karma-sharp
[06:41] <hyperair> it seems banshee hasn't been detecting karma-sharp due to a bug in libkarma's packaging which resulted in karma-sharp.pc having a blank "Version: " field.
[06:41] <ScottK> hyperair: OK
[06:42] <hyperair> and this has happened since... before jaunty
[06:42] <hyperair> i think
[06:42] <ScottK> OK, still a bug, right?
[06:42] <hyperair> i'm wondering whether it's okay at this point to fix karma-sharp
[06:42] <hyperair> still a bug, yes
[06:42] <hyperair> but i'm wondering whether it's fine to fix karma-sharp and then get banshee uploaded
[06:42] <hyperair> oh yeah speaking of which 1.5.1 is out
[06:42] <hyperair> and awaiting sync
[06:42] <ScottK> My view is feel free to fix bugs.
[06:43] <hyperair> okay then
[07:57] <dholbach> good morning
[07:59] <hyperair> morning
[08:55] <quadrispro> slomo: I'm committing transmageddon to the SVN
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[08:55] <slomo> quadrispro: great, thanks :) is it in ubuntu already?
[08:56] <quadrispro> no, it isn't
[08:56] <quadrispro> upstream includes the debian dir, so I did repack the tarball
[08:56] <quadrispro> however, the package is already available on mentors
[08:57] <slomo> quadrispro: oh? i'll talk with christian to remove the debian dir for next release
[08:57] <quadrispro> excellent, I did the same with the arista's upstream to the same
[08:57] <quadrispro> hope to see a new release soon
[08:58] <quadrispro> that's the URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/t/transmageddon/transmageddon_0.14-1.dsc
[08:58] <quadrispro> slomo: let's move to #debian-multimedia ;)
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[12:37] <surfzoid2> Hi
[12:37] <surfzoid2> directhex: did you remember me about my install dll in the gac problem ?
[12:38] <directhex> surfzoid2, remnid me
[12:39] <surfzoid2> i build deb for 2 of my soft, they have 2 dll i need to register in the gac, but after an success build, if i install the deb which have one of the dll, my soft didn't find it in the gac
[12:40] <surfzoid2> so you was sugest me some cmd in dsc and control file
[12:41] <surfzoid2> directhex: but it not working too, perhap's where am i wrong , is the fact i dont have any debian build file in the tarball of my source program
[12:41] <directhex> surfzoid2, right
[12:41] <surfzoid2> ?
[12:41] <surfzoid2> directhex: the builded file is here http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/surfzoid:/DebianUbuntu/xUbuntu_9.04/amd64/syntaxhighlighting_1.0.1.3_amd64.deb
[12:41] <directhex> surfzoid2, can you upload your source package somewhere so i can take a look, rather than all this back-and-forth ?
[12:42] <surfzoid2> directhex: have you got an novell account ?
[12:43] <surfzoid2> directhex: are you able to log here https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=SyntaxHighlighting&project=home%3Asurfzoid%3ADebianUbuntu
[12:43] <surfzoid2> this is the best place to see all, source and build file
[12:45] <surfzoid2> directhex: i remember, i have requested a packaging : https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/443398
[12:45] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 443398 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] MonoOSC" [Wishlist,New]
[12:46] <surfzoid2> directhex: always here ?
[12:47] <debfx> is a motu-release member around?
[12:48] <sistpoty|work> debfx: what's up?
[12:50] <debfx> sistpoty|work: I want to get virtualbox-guest-additions synced from debian to match the version of virtualbox-ose: bug #450803
[12:50] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 450803 in virtualbox-guest-additions "Sync virtualbox-guest-additions 3.0.8-1 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (non-free)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/450803
[12:51] <sistpoty|work> debfx: if it's bugfix only, no need to contact motu-release about it (yet... date for final freeze of universe is still t.b.d.)
[12:55] <debfx> sistpoty|work: ah ok, didn't know that final freeze doesn't affect universe yet
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[15:03] <dtchen> ajmitch: / RainCT: you'll want apt-get install linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic
[15:08] <RainCT> dtchen: thanks! :)
[15:33] <Laney> porthose: I don't really have time to do any mentoring ATM, you should probably remove me from the list
[15:34] <porthose> Laney will do, ty :)
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[15:58] <dtchen> jdstrand: you'll want apt-get install linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic
[15:58] <dtchen> jdstrand: (WRT your sound bug)
[15:58] <jdstrand> dtchen: yeah. I got the bug mail and will do it today
[15:58] <jdstrand> dtchen: thanks! :)
[16:11] <bddebian> Heya gang
[16:16] <\sh> uh da barry ;)
[16:16] <sebner> huuhu bddebian \sh :D
[16:16] <bddebian> Heya \sh, sebner
[16:16] <Laney> ello
[17:01] <\sh> uh oh new rammstein song + video != office compatible
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[17:29] <stani> ScottK, POX: is the fix of bug #448993 also applied to the debian PAPT repository?
[17:29] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 448993 in phatch "Base command line option is deprecated" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/448993
[17:30] <stani> sorry POX, ScottK, I mean Bug #450800
[17:30] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 450800 in phatch "package phatch 0.2.1-4 failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/applications/phatch.desktop', which is also in package phatch-cli 0:0.2.1-4" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/450800
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[17:36] <stani> POX, ScottK: I am doing another bugfix release now 0.2.4, but this patch should be in debian
[17:44] <stani> POX, ScottK: I've added this fix myself to Debian, POX please check if I did it right before uploading the new 0.2.4 release
[17:57] <jdstrand> dtchen: hey. re bug #400682> still no sound. I updated the bug
[17:57] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 400682 in linux "[Karmic stac9227 regression] No sound after upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/400682
[18:10] <benste> HI, I just tried starting to install pbuilder and so on, is it usual that "sudo pbuilder create
[18:10] <benste> " stops at "I: Retrieving libssl0.9.8
[18:10] <benste> I: Validating libssl0.9.8
[18:10] <benste> I: Retrieving libstdc++6
[18:10] <benste> " ?
[18:11] <dtchen> jdstrand: updated
[18:13] <benste> should I abort with CTRL +C  ? - or will this cause damage ?
[18:16] <benste> no one posting here ?
[18:18] <hyperair> benste: it should be downloading packaging
[18:18] <hyperair> packages*
[18:19] <hyperair> if you've got a faster internet connection it'll complete very fast
[18:19] <benste> hyperair: hi, network and CPU is idle so I guess it's doing nothing
[18:19] <hyperair> otherwise it'll take some time
[18:19] <hyperair> i guess it timed out =\
[18:19] <hyperair> or rather, the connection broke but it hasn't timed out
[18:19] <benste> so CTRL +C and retry ?
[18:19] <hyperair> use a different mirror?
[18:19] <hyperair> yeah ctrl+c
[18:19] <benste> k
[18:19] <hyperair> use a different --mirror
[18:19] <hyperair> preferably one that's near you
[18:20] <benste> - inet connection isn't a real problem for me - and cause it's karmic I don't like to switch to a local mirror
[18:24] <jdstrand> dtchen: added, but they are all the same. I did cat /proc/asound/card*/codec* > ... in each scenario you asked for
[18:25] <dtchen> !
[18:25] <dtchen> uh, that can't be good
[18:33] <benste> hyperair:  - worked - successfully installed
[18:33] <hyperair> benste: good to hear.
[18:39] <dtchen> jdstrand: hmm, the lack of jack events is very disconcerting. When you have a moment, please see if all three codec dumps for those scenarios described in the bug report are identical after a powercycle
[18:40] <jdstrand> dtchen: a power cycle between each?
[18:41] <dtchen> jdstrand: not necessary
[18:42] <dtchen> jdstrand: just between loading of 2.6.31-14.47's snd-hda-intel and lbm's
[18:42] <jdstrand> ok, I just tried 2.6.32-rc4 and am back in 2.6.31-14.47-generic
[18:45] <jdstrand> dtchen: is there an easy way to unload the necessary modules?
[18:45] <jdstrand> lsmod shows me a lot
[18:49] <dtchen> jdstrand: you'll need to disable PA autospawn and kill PA first
[18:49] <dtchen> jdstrand: echo autospawn = no|tee -a ~/.pulse/client.conf && killall pulseaudio
[18:50] <dtchen> jdstrand: then, sudo alsa force-unload
[19:08] <jdstrand> dtchen: ok. I did an actual power cycle and got behind an fsck when you responded
[19:12] <dtchen> jdstrand: hmm, normal shutdown or finger salute? ext4?
[19:12] <jdstrand> dtchen: it looks like there is a difference this time
[19:12] <dtchen> whew!
[19:12] <jdstrand> dtchen: it was a warm reboot
[19:12] <jdstrand> unfortunately, ext3 on a large partition (256G!)
[19:13] <jdstrand> dtchen: not_inserted and hp_inserted are the same
[19:13] <jdstrand> dtchen: rearjack_inserted is different
[19:13] <dtchen> jdstrand: ok, do you mind attaching those dumps this time, please?
[19:13] <jdstrand> dtchen: already done
[19:13] <dtchen> ok, thanks (i'm slow!)
[19:26] <dtchen> jdstrand: do you have a codec dump (with hp inserted into front hp jack) from a working [audible sound] kernel?
[19:32] <jdstrand> dtchen: I should be able to get one. jaunty worked and I still have 2.6.28-13-generic laying around
[19:32] <jdstrand> it'll be a few minutes though
[19:32] <dtchen> jdstrand: awesome.
[19:32] <dtchen> jdstrand: at your convenience
[19:40] <benste> guys looks like it's  bit late for me, but could someone of you tell me what would be wrong with the following expression ?
[19:40] <benste> karmicvm@karmicVM:~/hello$ tar xfz hello-2.4.tar.gz
[19:41] <benste> as far as I read from MAN xf is extracting and z would be care about Gzipped wouldn't it ?
[19:41] <mathiaz> benste: try : tar xzf hello-2.4.tar.gz
[19:42] <benste> karmicvm@karmicVM:~/hello$ tar xzf hello-2.4.tar.gz
[19:42] <benste> karmicvm@karmicVM:~/hello$ ls
[19:42] <benste> hello-2.4.tar.gz  ubuntu
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[19:43] <benste> mathiaz: - no new directory created - does I have to mention where to unpack ?
[19:43] <mathiaz> benste: it should unpack in the current directory
[19:43] <mathiaz> benste: is the file a correct tar file?
[19:44] <mathiaz> benste: you can see the content of the archive (without extracting it) with tar tzf ...tar.gz
[19:44] <benste> I hope so otherwise the motu how to would be completely confusing
[19:44] <benste> karmicvm@karmicVM:~/hello$ tar tzf hello-2.4.tar.gz
[19:44] <benste> ends up with nothing
[19:45] <benste> I'll use file-roller which laways worked fine before :-9
[19:45] <benste> mathiaz: strange file-roller creates a new empty dir
[19:46] <benste> possibly the archive is really damaged
[19:46] <benste> mathiaz: could you try wget http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/hello/hello-2.4.tar.gz
[19:47] <benste> strange downloading with FF in my host system gave a huge ammount of files
[19:47] <mathiaz> benste: everything works correclty here
[19:49] <benste> mathiaz: downloaded again with wget again and now it works - strange -
[19:49] <benste> mathiaz: thanks for answering and trying
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[20:09] <jdstrand> dtchen: I attached the output to the bug, but it seems that karmic userspace may have changed too much to actually have sound work (see the bug). I tried to boot into a jaunty livecd, but my machine wouldn't boot off of it
[20:10] <fabrice_sp> Hi. I fixed a package in Karmic that was making some packages to fail in the rebuild test. Is it possible to retry to build them?
[20:10] <fabrice_sp> cacao is one of them
[20:18] <ajmitch> dtchen: thanks, I saw you mention that on your blog
[20:19] <dtchen> jdstrand: try passing the module index from (pactl list|grep -B1 "Name: module-udev-detect") to pactl unload-module
[20:20] <jdstrand> dtchen: I'm back into a karmic kernel. do you need this for debugging?
[20:20] <dtchen> jdstrand: sorry, this would be in the jaunty kernel
[20:21] <jdstrand> dtchen: right-- was my attached output not good enough?
[20:21] <dtchen> jdstrand: however, you should still be able to test in the jaunty kernel (w/ karmic userspace) for audible playback with speaker-test -c2 -Dplughw:0
[20:21] <dtchen> jdstrand: i interpreted your comment as "sound's not audible now even if i use the jaunty kernel"
[20:22] <jdstrand> dtchen: no, I was really only trying to communicate that I couldn't verify today that it still worked on that kernel. I know it used to on Jaunty.
[20:23] <jdstrand> dtchen: if you would like me to boot into it and verify, I can do that
[20:24] <dtchen> jdstrand: well, at your convenience, really. i'll assume that playback is still okay with jaunty's kernel given the codec, but it would be good to follow up on the bug report at some point with verification
[20:25] <dtchen> jdstrand: thanks for your time
[20:25] <jdstrand> ok
[20:30] <jdstrand> dtchen: I am in the jaunty kernel
[20:31] <jdstrand> dtchen: speaker-test -c2 -Dplughw:0 does not work:
[20:31] <jdstrand> ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1433:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card
[20:31] <jdstrand> Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory
[20:31] <surfzoid> directhex: Funny, now, my dll are in the GAC, but, when i install my GUI soft which require the dll, apt-get don't install it, bad dependency :-)
[20:32] <jdstrand> dtchen: one would think that I would start to get proficient at sound because of this bug, but I still feel like I don't really know what I am doing
[20:32] <jdstrand> dtchen: should I kill pulseaudio?
[20:32] <dtchen> jdstrand: let's migrate to -bugs, please
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[20:46] <surfzoid> directhex: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=SyntaxHighlighting&project=home%3Asurfzoid%3ADebianUbuntu
[21:06] <fabrice_sp> When building oprofile, I'm getting this error: dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/lib/libbfd-2.19.92.20091014.so. How can I fix it?
[21:07] <ari-tczew> hello
[21:08] <fabrice_sp> Hey ari-tczew
[21:14] <ari-tczew> anybody know what about maven2?
[21:16] <MTecknology> bug 410407
[21:16] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 410407 in flashplugin-nonfree "flash does not recognise mouse clicks" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/410407
[21:17] <MTecknology> not really for you guys - but gnash doesn't have this issue if you care at all
[21:20] <fabrice_sp> ari-tczew, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/junit/+bug/427539/comments/33
[21:20] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 427539 in maven2 "[FFe] Sync libmaven packages from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,New]
[21:28] <blueyed> https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html is incorrect/not up-to-date: nginx is 0.7.62-1 in unstable, since a while already.
[21:29] <blueyed> This is a bugfix release.. is it to late to get it into Karmic?
[21:29] <blueyed> bug 450874
[21:29] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 450874 in nginx "Consider releasing Karmic with nginx 0.7.62 vs patched 0.7.61" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/450874
[21:30] <ajmitch> blueyed: not impossible, but it will definitely need a freeze exception from motu-release
[21:30] <blueyed> ajmitch: ok. but first I need to resolve the problem not being able to use grab-merge though..
[21:31] <ajmitch> do the merge manually
[21:31] <ajmitch> MoM is just a useful helper
[21:31] <ianm_> anyone feel like helping to package this?  http://gnomecoder.wordpress.com/2009/10/11/new-gui-input-device-manager-for-luz-music-visualizer   it's a suite of two ruby apps and two C++ apps, with 100% of dependencies already in repos
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[21:32] <blueyed> ajmitch: very useful in this case.. how should I do it?
[21:32] <ajmitch> just apply all the relevant changes that need to be kept to the debian package, and make sure you list them in the changelog
[21:33] <blueyed> ajmitch: ..and merge old changelogs entries, too, at least.. I'll give it a try.
[21:33] <ajmitch> if ubuntu only has changes that can be dropped, then request a sync, subscribe the right teams
[21:33] <ajmitch> which should be motu-release at this stage, I think
[21:34] <ajmitch> getting the debdiff between 0.7.61-1 & 0.7.61-1ubuntu2 can help in seeing what was changed
[21:35] <ajmitch> in case someone's not shown everything in the changelog
[21:58] <blueyed> ajmitch: works ok using BeyondCompare.. I can only imagine it would be to only use diff and vim, for example..
[21:59]  * blueyed still wonders why there's no script doing grab-merge's job in ubuntu-dev-tools..
[22:00] <ajmitch> well MoM's source is available on LP :)
[22:01] <blueyed> one reason less.. ;)
[22:01] <blueyed> Subscribing motu-release and asking for ACK is enough?
[22:01] <ajmitch> feel free to write something to ubuntu-dev-tools then
[22:01] <blueyed> I'll attach the debdiff
[22:01] <ajmitch> I don't know, it's in the final freeze time
[22:01] <blueyed> could not find anything in the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Home?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=mtou-release&fullsearch=Text
[22:02] <ajmitch> but it should get some feedback at least - make sure you can justify the new upstream release
[22:02] <blueyed> typo.. :/
[22:03] <blueyed> same with typo though.. yes. I'll subscribe them and provide the debdiff.. it's bugfix only (nearly) and been released a while ago already. running fine for me already, too.
[22:04] <ajmitch> see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-April/025259.html
[22:04] <ajmitch> which was referenced in a recent post on ubuntu-devel-announce
[22:20] <bdrung> any motu-release team member here who can have a look at bug #452430?
[22:20] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 452430 in phatch "Please sync phatch 0.2.4-1 (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452430
[22:22] <stani> ScottK: ping
[22:30] <bdrung> stani: hi
[22:30] <stani> hi
[22:31] <stani> hi bdrung
[22:32] <bdrung> stani: didn't know, that you are prominent (you have your own wiki page)
[22:32] <stani> bdrung: this was to apply for ubuntu membership, as it is one of the requirements
[22:32] <bdrung> stani: i am referring to wikipedia
[22:32] <stani> bdrung: I wouldn't say that having a wiki page makes someone prominent
[22:33] <stani> bdrung: ah ok
[22:34] <bdrung> and a 5 euro coin with your design. respect
[22:35] <stani> bdrung: yes that was a lucky shot
[22:35] <bdrung> i read that in the news
[22:35] <stani> bdrung: btw the coin is now in the final of the Dutch Design Awards
[22:35] <bdrung> wow
[22:36] <stani> saturday the winner will be announced, but i don't expect to win
[22:37] <stani> bdrung: so phatch is my contribution to creative free software ;-)
[22:37] <bdrung> you have only 22.000 search result. that's less than me (and does nothing that is such public-oriented)
[22:38] <stani> bdrung: that is because i never use my full name for free software activities
[22:39] <stani> bdrung: otherwise my artistic acitivities would get lost in the 'free' ocean
[22:39] <bdrung> ;)
[22:49] <sebner> ylatuya_: already in ubuntu btw ;)
[22:50] <ylatuya_> sebner, I saw it!
[22:50] <ylatuya_> sebner, You work very fast ;)
[22:51] <sebner> ylatuya_: freeze is near we have to :P
[22:51] <ylatuya_> sebner, I was really impressed how soon it entered in Debian
[22:51] <sebner> ylatuya_: well, you have to know some people if you know what I mean ..
[22:52] <ylatuya_> sebner, Give your adressbook, though :)
[22:52] <sebner> heh
[22:53] <sebner> ylatuya_: I think I'll take a look at chronojump this weekend too can't promise _anything_ though
[22:54] <ylatuya_> sebner, There is no rush at all. I know that soon or later you'll help us with chronojump
[22:55] <sebner> ylatuya_: :), I'm wondering about your debian folder commits though. (luckily no in the source tarball)
[22:57] <ylatuya_> sebner, It's not in the tarball but we keep everything in the git repo:http://git.gnome.org/cgit/chronojump/tree/
[22:58] <ylatuya_> sebner, BTW, I realized that some the current release contains some headers with the olf FSF adress. Is that something that you can patch in the packagin or do we have to make a new release for that?
[22:59] <sebner> ylatuya_: neither nor, you can wait until your regular next release. It's not really an important issue
[23:03] <ylatuya_> sebner, Which is the current plicy for updating a package once karmic, for instance, has been released. I mean, if the current version of LongoMatch in karmic is 0.15.3 , future releases (always in the 0.15.X series) will be also part of karmic?
[23:03] <ScottK> stani: Pong
[23:03] <sebner> ylatuya_: unless you request a backport (is then in the repo karmic-backports) no
[23:04] <ylatuya_> sebner, Ok, it's something I was wondering because it wasn very clear for me.
[23:04] <stani> ScottK: I was wondering if there was any chance to get phatch-0.2.4 in Karmic
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