[00:34] <fta> kenvandine, jcastro: gwibber crashed. segfault in webkit js engine (in FastMalloc) :(
[01:05] <jcastro> fta: sigh, you're full of good news today
[01:05] <fta> sorry
[01:05] <jcastro> heh
[01:06] <fta> you asked me earlier if it was still crashing, so here it is
[01:06] <jcastro> no worries
[01:06] <fta> i can post the full apport report, but i doubt it will be useful, noone seems to track webkit bugs
[01:10] <jcastro> should have kept cairo. :-/
[01:13] <fta> gecko?
[01:38] <micahg> asac: you there?
[01:39] <asac> micahg: yes
[01:40] <asac> oops
[01:40] <asac> uploaded ffox ;)
[01:40] <asac> let us add the touch update.locale
[01:40] <asac> micahg: or do you hav e apatch?
[01:40] <micahg> I can make a patch quick
[01:40] <micahg> asac: we can add the file, but someone has to remember to remove it
[01:41] <asac> micahg: i think we should really go the non-patch way if that doesnt cause issues
[01:41] <micahg> when we move to 3.6+
[01:41] <asac> what file should i touch?
[01:41] <asac> http://pastebin.com/f7dddcd6b
[01:41] <asac> like hat?
[01:43]  * micahg is trying to find the location
[01:43] <micahg> I think it's just update.locale
[01:44] <micahg> yeah
[01:44] <micahg> asac: http://pastebin.com/d582b3aed
[01:45] <asac> micahg: bug id?
[01:45] <micahg> asac: when the package is removed, will it remove the file?
[01:46] <micahg> bug 411691
[01:47] <asac> micahg: yes. in rules the stuff goes into the package
[01:47] <asac> so that is tracked by package then
[01:47] <micahg> ok, great
[01:47] <asac> only if you do things like that in postinst you have to take care
[01:47] <asac> which is why we also touch it in rules
[01:47] <asac> so its tracked still ;)
[01:47] <micahg> ok, so I guess this is the best way then :)
[02:19] <micahg> asac: bug 432556 is not fixed yet
[02:22] <asac> micahg: it should be
[02:22] <asac> well
[02:22] <asac> i think arne didnt do a full base update
[02:22] <asac> which didnt remove the old ones from the base
[02:22] <asac> so yeah. maybe set back to fix committed
[02:22] <asac> also we have another bug that makes this problematic
[02:24] <micahg> ok, someone just opened a bug in one of the individual langs, should I dupe it?
[02:26] <micahg> asac: ^^^
[02:26] <asac> micahg: yes and no :)
[02:26] <asac> not sure
[02:26] <asac> the one that kbelem had
[02:26] <asac> is a different one
[02:26] <micahg> the new one is 451803
[02:26] <micahg> oops bug 451803
[02:26] <asac> so if there is a still a physical copy in the packages its a dupe
[02:27] <asac> otherwise its a dupe of the other bug i am talking about
[02:27] <micahg> yes, there is a physical copy in the package of the lang still
[02:27] <asac> yes. thats a dupe of the "dumb" bu
[02:27] <asac> g
[02:27] <micahg> "dumb"?
[02:27] <asac> the tricky one is firefox not forgettinga bout removed langpacks
[02:27] <asac> that busts the profile and no extensions get upgraded anymore
[02:27] <asac> symptoms are: in tools->addons there is always "restart required"
[02:28] <asac> and you never get a new version displayed in the addons dialog
[02:28] <micahg> ah, so the one I just mentioned is a dupe of the one I changed back to Fix COmmitted?
[02:28] <asac> so if you see that its the firefox code bug
[02:28] <asac> one second
[02:28] <asac> mozilla bug 521780
[02:28] <asac> upstream didnt like my patc so i will check that after freeze
[02:28] <asac> i mean during freeze ;)
[02:30] <micahg> asac: do we have a bug for that?
[02:31] <asac> micahg: i am sure someone reported it, but i cannot cope with flood
[02:31] <asac> i think kbelem had one
[02:31] <asac> let me open tbird and do full text search after indexing finishes
[02:33] <micahg> bug 441552
[02:33] <micahg> is that the one?
[02:34] <asac> probably yes.
[02:34] <micahg> ok, I'll mark the bmo bug as upstream
[02:34] <asac> debug instructions are to go to about:config
[02:34] <asac> setting extensions.logging.enabled to true
[02:34] <asac> and pasting what comes out on console on startup
[02:34] <asac> thx
[02:34] <micahg> Do you need people to do that (i.e. should I add to description?)
[02:35] <micahg> assign to you?
[02:35] <asac> micahg: maybe make a master out of it et all.
[02:35] <asac> micahg: yes.
[02:35] <asac> well
[02:35] <asac> they should just paste it for now
[02:35] <asac> not really in descirption ;
[02:35] <asac> )
[02:35] <asac> and backup their profile so it stays reproducible
[02:35] <micahg> well, I'll add the instructions in the description so people see it
[02:35] <asac> before doing anything ... i just told them that in the bug
[02:36] <asac> but maybe repeat whenever you suggest something ;)
[02:36] <micahg> huh?
[02:37] <micahg> ok
[02:37] <asac> well. usually if you post someting that works around it
[02:37] <asac> folks will just do it and stop reading the rest
[02:37] <asac> so better always tell them everything ;)
[02:38] <micahg> yeah, that's why I figured put it all the description up to
[02:38] <micahg> *top
[02:40] <asac> firefox has really a bunch of crashesr
[02:40] <asac> that are private
[02:40] <asac> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5
[02:40] <asac> do you see all those too?
[02:40] <micahg> yeah, I started going through some of the older ones
[02:40] <asac> hmm all the XErrors are fixed i think
[02:40] <micahg> my biggest problem is figuring out which are dupes
[02:40] <asac> dupe of the XError bug fixed in last xulrunner
[02:40] <micahg> anything that's an X crash for an old GTK I ask people to test
[02:41] <asac> firefox crashed with signal 5 in _XError()
[02:41] <micahg> and what to do with all of them
[02:41] <asac> those are dupes of the xulrunner one from last upload
[02:41] <asac> dupe them if you have a dupe
[02:41] <asac> if they are older than 2 upstream release uploads and have no dupes -> invalidate
[02:41] <asac> thats what i sometimes do
[02:41] <asac> go through them and invalidate all odl ones without recent dupes
[02:41] <asac> and tell users to reopen if they know how to reproduce
[02:41] <micahg> ok
[02:42] <asac> but open bugs up
[02:42] <micahg> I'll do that later tonight
[02:42] <asac> e.g. check backtrace, remove coredump, unflag private
[02:42] <asac> keeping them private makes no sense
[02:42] <asac> micahg: no instant action needed on this front :) ... just a general info ;)
[02:42] <asac> but duping bugs is good for karma ;)
[02:42] <micahg> yeah, it just takes time to review the backtraces...
[02:43] <asac> so just do those XError dupes ;)
[02:43] <micahg> and I"ve been short on time lately
[02:43] <micahg> I should have some time this weekend though
[02:43] <asac> micahg: i usually dont look that much
[02:43] <asac> ;)
[02:43] <asac> unless i see something like "pin update" in the backtrace i assume its safe
[02:43] <asac> most backtraces are more or less simliar ;)
[02:44] <micahg> so all the X errors are the same as the GDK error thingy (bug 401055 and bug 411695)?
[02:45] <micahg> I'll try to check out the rdepends this weekend for ff3 and xul1.9
[02:47] <micahg> asac: also, is it good to have the same profiles for all the ff versions?
[02:49] <micahg> I hope the bugzilla upgrade will let us link back to LP
[02:51] <micahg> also, I said I'd try to take over the songbird daily builds
[03:02] <asac> micahg: cool.
[03:03] <asac> songbird is not that a sexy target ;)
[03:03] <asac> but if its just patch adjusting ;)
[03:03] <asac> not sure
[03:04] <micahg> he said it's more
[03:04] <micahg> I wish we had stats on PPA usage
[03:05] <micahg> anyways good for karma and potential Ubuntu membership
[04:32] <RazielLight> mozilla ! i'm such a fan ! who isn't? :D
[05:31] <eagles0513875> asac: did you finish up bindwood :(
[11:09] <asac> eagles0513875: yeah sorry.
[11:09] <asac> check the committs i did. i guess you were close
[11:11] <asac> archive is final frozen
[11:11] <asac> too bad that quite a lot extensions didnt make it ;)
[11:25] <|eagles0513875|> hey asac did you finish up bindwood O_o
[11:40] <asac> eagles0513875: yeah. check what i did ;) ... we have plenty of more extensions left on that list
[11:41] <asac> 12:09 < asac> eagles0513875: yeah sorry.
[11:41] <asac> 12:09 < asac> check the committs i did. i guess you were close
[11:41] <asac> 12:11 < asac> archive is final frozen
[11:41] <asac> 12:11 < asac> too bad that quite a lot extensions didnt make it ;)
[11:41] <|eagles0513875|> :( i was almost finished with it too :(
[11:41] <|eagles0513875|> guess i pick another one and get started on that
[11:41] <micahg> asac: I didn't post the summary, because I thought you said to do it next time someone asks, I guess that should've been when I duped the bug...
[11:41] <|eagles0513875|> went on a lil marathon yesterday to finish it up almost finished everything in the control
[11:42] <micahg> I did it now
[11:43] <|eagles0513875|> asac: question now for the ones that didnt make karmic we do the steps on the wiki for lucid now or not
[11:49] <gnomefreak> what is the sound channel?
[11:49] <|eagles0513875|> alsa gnomefreak
[11:49] <|eagles0513875|> or pulseaudio
[11:49] <|eagles0513875|> which one
[11:49] <|eagles0513875|> and good morning to u gnomefreak
[11:49] <gnomefreak> it used to be ubuntu-sound
[11:50] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: good morning
[11:50] <|eagles0513875|> hehe not sure
[11:50] <|eagles0513875|> gnomefreak: try /list and search for the channel you are looking for
[11:50] <bdrung> asac: what's with the remaining extensions? will they delayed till lucid?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> they should due to time for release
[11:51] <micahg> gnomefreak: no official sound channel AFAICT
[11:52] <micahg> try #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[11:52] <gnomefreak> micahg: yeah im seeing that, thanks
[11:52] <gnomefreak> micahg: wont help this is a dev question
[11:52] <micahg> ah, find dtchen maybe :)
[11:52] <|eagles0513875|> gnomefreak: then try in ubuntu-dev
[11:52] <|eagles0513875|> hehe asac never was told about this https://wiki.edubuntu.org/MozillaTeam/Extensions/Packaging
[11:52] <|eagles0513875|> lol
[11:53] <gnomefreak> edubuntu?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> we have a packaging page
[11:53] <micahg> it's all the same
[11:54] <micahg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions/Packaging
[11:54] <micahg> different shells
[11:54] <|eagles0513875|> hahah just stumbled upon that on via google
[11:54] <gnomefreak> we need to update it, atleast the update section it doesnt work everything errors
[11:54] <|eagles0513875|> trying to find the extensions wiki since i dont have it saved on my laptop
[11:55] <|eagles0513875|> hehe well i would be willing to do it if i knew how to package
[11:58] <gnomefreak> it may be bzr failing but some how i doubt it is just bzr
[11:59] <|eagles0513875|> ??
[11:59] <|eagles0513875|> whats the link to the wiki so i may save it
[12:00] <gnomefreak> |eagles0513875|: which one?
[12:01] <|eagles0513875|> where we are keeping track of all the work done on the extensions
[12:04] <gnomefreak> |eagles0513875|: this one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Karmic/ExtensionReview?action=subscribe
[12:04] <gnomefreak> oops
[12:04] <|eagles0513875|> ? wrong link gnomefreak
[12:04] <|eagles0513875|> actually thats it
[12:04] <gnomefreak> |eagles0513875|: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Karmic/ExtensionReview
[12:05] <gnomefreak> |eagles0513875|: the first one was but it was as subscribe
[12:05] <|eagles0513875|> sry the first one was right. i just saw you say oops thought u posted the wrong link
[12:05] <|eagles0513875|> meaning what gnomefreak
[12:05] <gnomefreak> |eagles0513875|: you would be better off using the second one
[12:05] <|eagles0513875|> ok
[12:06] <gnomefreak> bdrung: are you using the packaging wiki to update extensions or doing it yourself?
[12:06] <|eagles0513875|> if i am not mistaken the one i am linked to at home is the first one
[12:09] <gnomefreak> i try to keep my bookmarks with clean links
[12:09] <gnomefreak> be back smoke and make coffee
[12:09] <|eagles0513875|> ahhh
[12:11] <asac> bdrung: i have to take off now this afternoon
[12:11] <asac> lets chat tonight or tomorrow on what to do with the other extensions
[12:11]  * asac off for a bit
[12:11] <|eagles0513875|> bdrung: the extensions that didnt make it the wiki has stuff for lucid are we going to begin implementation of the lucid stuff?
[12:14] <bdrung> gnomefreak: ? i do not need the guide from the wiki
[12:14] <bdrung> asac: k
[12:14] <|eagles0513875|> bdrung: i think he mentioned before it needs to be updated as i guess nothing works
[12:15] <bdrung> |eagles0513875|: ?
[12:16] <|eagles0513875|> the extensions that didnt get updated for karmic are we going to add the lucid updates to those that havent been done yet or wait till after karmic release before that happens
[12:18] <gnomefreak> bdrung: do you have time to update the wiki to your way?
[12:19] <bdrung> |eagles0513875|: we work with Debian and sync them when lucid is opened
[12:30] <bdrung> gnomefreak: the instruction on the wiki page should still work (the template branch is up-to-date)
[12:30] <bdrung> gnomefreak: only a reference to debian is missing
[12:31] <gnomefreak> the packaging section works maybe its the package. im wondering if we can make m-d get rid of all unneeded files
[12:31] <gnomefreak> not sure if possible since they are not all the same
[12:32] <bdrung> gnomefreak: which unneeded files?
[12:32] <gnomefreak> bdrung: ok can you look at firegpg for me. update it (throwing *.h errors) if i have them or not
[12:32] <gnomefreak> bdrung: files for windows users
[12:33] <|eagles0513875|> gotcha
[12:33] <bdrung> gnomefreak: if there is a file name pattern
[12:33] <bdrung> gnomefreak: link to firegpg?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> bdrung: one sec.
[12:38] <gnomefreak> bdrung: here is my branch https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox-extensions/firegpg.ubuntu
[12:39] <gnomefreak> bdrung: 0.7.8 was never built since the clen needs to be fixed before i can commit to a build
[12:39] <gnomefreak> its FireGPGCall that is the problem since autor has been moving shit around
[12:42] <gnomefreak> as for the header file im not sure why its throwing errors on latest version
[12:50] <bdrung> gnomefreak: where do i find the orig source?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> bdrung: ill get it you can diff from the version in my PPA to make locate the files that need to be removed.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> you can get the 0.7.5 orig.* i dont have a place to upload the newest orig*
[13:02] <bdrung> gnomefreak: it builds on jaunty amd64
[13:03] <gnomefreak> bdrung: can you please push a branch so i can look at it?
[13:03] <bdrung> gnomefreak: i only removed the first 3 MOZ_* variables
[13:04] <gnomefreak> bdrung: you didnt clean the FireGPGCall files during build?
[13:04] <|eagles0513875|> bdrung: will grab another extension and work on it this afternoon :) once i get home
[13:04] <bdrung> gnomefreak: should i improve this package or should i only check if it builds?
[13:05] <gnomefreak> bdrung: only if you removed all windows files (there are 3 or 4) and make the clean rule clean the firegpgcall files
[13:06] <bdrung> gnomefreak: this will take some time. other idea: http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/firegpg.html
[13:07] <bdrung> gnomefreak: get in contact with Daniel Kahn Gillmor and convert it to m-d
[13:07] <bdrung> gnomefreak: let him join the moz-ext team
[13:08] <bdrung> pkg-mozext team
[13:08] <gnomefreak> ? what team is that?
[13:09] <bdrung> gnomefreak: the debian team for extensions
[13:09] <bdrung> #debian-mozext on oftc
[13:10] <bdrung> gnomefreak: http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianMozExtTeam
[13:10] <gnomefreak> bdrung: you want me to join that that or him?
[13:11] <bdrung> gnomefreak: at least him
[13:11] <bdrung> gnomefreak: feel free to join
[13:12] <gnomefreak> bdrung: i dont see way to join mozext team
[13:12] <bdrung> gnomefreak: ?
[13:13] <gnomefreak> i dont see any info on joining pkg-mozext team or did you want me to have him join our team
[13:14] <bdrung> gnomefreak: it's a alioth group
[13:14] <bdrung> av`: ^
[13:15] <bdrung> gnomefreak: our team = ?
[13:15] <gnomefreak> ok i still see no way of join the team pkg-mozext Alioth is just what they use for uploads isnt it?
[13:16] <gnomefreak> bdrung: our team == https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozilla-extensions-dev
[13:16] <bdrung> gnomefreak: k
[13:17] <bdrung> gnomefreak: the mozext team is only a alioth group (for vcs access) and a irc channel
[13:18] <gnomefreak> k i see mailing lists if that is what you mean
[13:18] <bdrung> + mailing list
[13:20] <bdrung> gnomefreak: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=pkg-mozext-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org
[13:22] <bdrung> gnomefreak: joining the team means: joining the pkg-mozext alioth group, subscribing the mailing list, maintain package in group
[13:23] <gnomefreak> k i subscribed to the 2 lists. when done with email i will look at debians package and email Daniel
[13:25] <bdrung> thx
[13:25] <gnomefreak> np
[13:25] <bdrung> gnomefreak: then we can sync the package in lucid
[13:26] <gnomefreak> bdrung: if i can fix it with thier package i will ask for a push to them and we should sync it from there
[13:26] <gnomefreak> :)
[13:26] <gnomefreak> ok ill be back
[13:40] <bdrung> gnomefreak: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~mozilla-extensions-dev/+packagebugs should monitor the extensions
[13:51] <gnomefreak> bdrung: thanks looking
[13:52] <gnomefreak> bdrung: what source package is libnss i cant find it in launchpad bug
[13:52] <gnomefreak> bdrung: it should but it doesnt seem to (not sure why)
[13:55] <gnomefreak> when using the package chooser it shows no items found matching libnss3-dev
[13:56] <gnomefreak> well it works if you just change it but the chooser is not finding it. a LP problem
[14:31] <gnomefreak> bdrung: imm sorry it was flash that was giving me errors on the header files. you can find branch at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/firefox-extensions/flashgot.ubuntu  the latest revision is the one that is broken IIRC
[14:32] <bdrung> gnomefreak: i can look at it later.
[14:33] <gnomefreak> bdrung: ok firegpg only needs firegpgcall clean rule fixed. not real sure how to fix that yet since they moved everything around :(
[14:44] <gnomefreak> ok emailed him :)
[14:46] <gnomefreak> updating my 2 ISO's and will be away while that is happening
[14:53] <dtchen> gnomefreak: need more info WRT your post to devel-discuss
[17:10] <gnomefreak> dtchen: im  gone for the day. if you post what you need ill be glad to give it to you.
[17:11] <dtchen> gnomefreak: i need you to more fully describe the issue
[17:11] <dtchen> gnomefreak: i don't understand what you mean by "disabled"
[17:11] <gnomefreak> i log in and icon has red X i go and unmute it in preferences
[17:12] <dtchen> gnomefreak: so it looks like your volume is muted upon login?
[17:12] <gnomefreak> dtchen: yep and it is not just looks like it is
[17:13] <dtchen> gnomefreak: ah, it isn't muted but the icon is wrong?
[17:13] <gnomefreak> dtchen: it is muted
[17:13] <dtchen> gnomefreak: so it _is_ muted on login?
[17:14] <gnomefreak> dtchen: yes
[17:14] <dtchen> gnomefreak: please reboot, and at the gdm screen, switch to a tty, log in, and check the output of 'amixer'
[17:14] <dtchen> gnomefreak: if possible, pastebin the output from that command
[17:15] <gnomefreak> dtchen: ok will do that tomorrow or over weekend
[17:15] <gnomefreak> thanks
[17:15] <dtchen> gnomefreak: ok
[19:33] <fta> dtchen, what kind of info could i give you to help identify/fix my openarena issues?
[19:33] <dtchen> oh, right.
[19:33] <dtchen> need to get you a newer libsdl build
[20:21] <bdrung> asac: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=551065 any clue? i can reproduce this misbehavior
[20:55] <fta> -xulrunner-1.9.2 (1.9.2~b1~hg20091014r32498+nobinonly-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[20:55] <fta> +xulrunner-1.9.2 (1.9.2~b2~hg20091014r32504+nobinonly-0ubuntu1) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
[21:39] <BUGabundo> hya
[21:39] <BUGabundo> asac: ping
[21:39] <BUGabundo> asac: upgrading now, since I haven't done it for the past 3 days
[21:42] <BUGabundo> asac: doing wifi tether with my android :)
[21:42] <BUGabundo> since thats the only way I can have internet now :(
[22:08] <BUGabundo> asac: upgrades done! ready for you
[22:09] <BUGabundo> dtchen: are you any good with UDEV?
[22:13] <dtchen> BUGabundo: which parts of udev?
[22:13] <BUGabundo> 3G modem rules
[22:13] <BUGabundo> there's a regression with my model
[22:14] <BUGabundo> been trying to get asac to help debug for 1 week
[22:14] <BUGabundo> but our shedules haven't been matching
[22:15] <BUGabundo> so dtchen up your alley ?
[22:16] <dtchen> BUGabundo: not really. do you have specifics?
[22:16] <BUGabundo> nop
[22:16] <BUGabundo> just user POV
[22:16] <dtchen> err, no specifics about device-specific ids?!
[22:16] <BUGabundo> dtchen: don't bother. I'll wait for asac. he said he would be here around 23:30
[22:16] <dtchen> that's going to make it pretty difficult to debug
[22:16] <BUGabundo> oh that! I can get it for you guys
[22:17] <BUGabundo> its plugged right now
[22:17] <BUGabundo> but it just tries to connect, some how finds the driver/app win partition, and disconects
[22:19] <bdrung> asac: some extension needs an update: search mozilla- in http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20090909-karmic.html
[23:10] <BUGabundo> asac: filled it https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/452583