[00:37] since the 22 fixes branch opened yesterday will there be a new repo for that instead of trunk [00:37] its a premature question just wondering if anyone knows [00:46] Lirc errors out on recent update on 9.10 beta [00:46] How can I fix this so I can try to fix my Nvidia drivers? [00:48] NeoFax: Lirc was working for you and then failed within the past day? [00:49] No, when I tried to update the packages with apt, lirc fails and causes everything else in myth to fail as it is a depend [00:51] When was the last time you updated successfully? I assume you did an apt-get update today and it fails now? [00:51] Here is the exact error apt spits out: /etc/lirc/hardware.conf: 4: Syntax error: "(" unexpected [00:52] superm1 ^^^^ [00:52] I updated like two days ago and today it errors out with the above line [00:52] NeoFax, you have a ( in your /etc/lirc/hardware.conf? [00:52] where? [00:53] REMOTE="ATI/NVidia/X10 I REMOTE="ATI/NVidia X10 RF (userspace)" II RF Remote" [00:53] NeoFax, Is it safe to say you didn't touch that file? [00:54] NeoFax, hm interesting. can you walk us through your remote history, how we got to this point? [00:54] eg start at mythbuntu X.Y, run mcc, update this, blah blah [00:54] what could be messing up my ssh? [00:54] i can ssh to myself... but can't seem to ssh from external [00:54] I installed mythbuntu fresh 9.10 beta and have updated pretty much every two days until today [00:54] checked all my routers and they are setup the same before [00:54] NeoFax, what remote did you pick back then? [00:55] is there some obscure setting with 9.10? [00:55] the errored remote from above [00:55] apt-get remove lirc...and install everything else [00:55] tmkt: 9.10 ssh works fine for me, so it shouldn't take anything. [00:55] Hmm [00:56] NeoFax, hm fun. can you please file a bug about this? [00:56] removing lirc removes all of myth [00:56] attach everything you've got in /etc/lirc/ [00:56] nah..it doesn't [00:56] i've removed lirc [00:56] The following packages will be REMOVED: [00:56] lirc mythbuntu-common mythbuntu-desktop mythbuntu-lirc-generator mythbuntu-log-grabber [00:56] Yes it does [00:56] nah...just meta packages [00:56] and for now, just go into /etc/lirc and delete that line [00:56] nothing in them [00:56] -common isn't a metapackage [00:56] it's actually important [00:57] the fact that lirc is so tightly put in here is another bug, it can be fixed though [00:57] hmm..mymachine has been running fine without it..:D [00:57] make it more optional [00:57] tmkt, can you please file a bug about making lirc optional? [00:57] sure...will do [00:58] OK, removed the files and sudo rm-rf'd hardware.conf and installed mythbuntu-desktop [00:59] Fixed the problem. Now to get the nvidia drivers to work [01:00] already there [01:00] marked as won't fix [01:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/133634 [01:00] can someone help me... I want to install to a raid array using the beta desktop cd (no alternate cd available). I successfully installed but of course I get dumped to a busy box shell on reboot (disk by uuid could not be found). Anyone know a trick that will make this work. [01:01] tmkt, back then it wasn't possible [01:01] it's doable now... :) [01:02] ^^ software raid, already assembled in live cd and installed to md0. [01:04] jfry_: edit the grub boot line? [01:04] hads, that's what I would like to try...but grub2 is all greek to me [01:05] Oh yeah, grub2 :) [01:05] hads, I don't even get grub menu, or opportunity to edit the boot line [01:05] I forgot about that sorry. [01:05] any ideas? [01:06] Ever taken an existing partition and raided it? [01:06] Boot with the live disk and edit menu.lst [01:06] Or whatever grub2 uses these days. [01:06] I should really learn about grub2 so I can recover my own systems when I break them [01:07] hads, it uses a grub.cfg that is dynamically created from templates in /etc [01:07] hads, it's wierd... I guess I'll just install without raid for the time being [01:07] hads, and hope I can upgrade later? [01:08] hads, or I suppose I could download the ubuntu alternate and install the mythbuntu packages? [01:09] Yeah, Ubuntu alternate is probably the easiest "normal" way. [01:09] Surely you can edit the grub2 config easily enough somehow though [01:13] I am trying to get one of my other systems to sart x11vnc at boot. How does mythbuntu do it. I am running karmic on the other. [01:18] OK, now that I can login to my mythbuntu box I am getting an error when trying to run mythbackend setup saying it is not compatible with the installed libraries. Please recompile after a make distclean. [01:18] All I want to do is just watch some TV across the LAN. [01:23] NeoFax, don't use vnc... ugh... use mythweb [01:25] NeoFax, or even better, install a frontend on the other box... or almost as good, use UPNP [01:30] I want to use vnc as I am too lazy to hook up a monitor to the other pc. Also, it does not have myth on it. [01:31] It is just plain Ubuntu Karmic [01:31] As for the Myth server, it has a frontend and I do use mythweb and a frontend [01:34] so just reopen that bug? [01:34] or do you want me to file a new one [01:36] Could you open a new one? [01:37] sure [01:37] What could cause the libraries to be jacked like that? [01:38] Just updated at the wrong time? [01:41] anyone else have issues with dvd jerky playback? [02:17] marc_ straight from a dvd? What version of myth are you running? [02:17] i'm playing a standard PAL dvd in karmic beta [02:18] tried a few different ones with mixed results, I've tried different playback profiles and deinterlace methods [02:18] I believe that playback from dvd is known to be troublesome. If you can rip it, I believe the results are better - although 0.22 + storage groups doesn't deal with .iso very well [02:20] yeah, its wierd cos I can play any dvd in vlc and playback is smooth as [02:26] I managed to get surround sound working via spdif last night [02:26] but the switch in the mixer isn't staying selected when rebooting [02:29] marc_ think you could search LP, and if you don't find anything write a bug against it? not sure the name of the package off the top of my head. Command would be "ubuntu-bug mixer" (replace mixer with something sound mixer related that isn't working for you). [02:29] k, thanks [02:40] OK, got everything worked out but cannot connect remote frontend to backend. Backend has a IP of 192.168.1.8 and Frontend 192.168.1.9 and I have server IP as 127.0.0.1 in backend-setup. What am I doing wrong? [02:40] Bah, I hate it when I forget to unmount NFS before rebooting the server. [02:41] Yah, unfreeze [02:47] D'oh, no more RAID [02:52] tmkt, bug 133634 [02:52] Bug 133634 in mythbuntu "lirc shouldn't be such a hard dependency" [Wishlist, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/133634 [03:04] Got a bit carried away now my VM server is running karmic too. [05:34] installin 9.10 with fingers crossed :D [05:34] daily build from today [05:42] Seventoes, new iso generates in 1hr 28min if yo udidn't already download [05:42] yeah i know [05:43] but meh [05:43] lol [05:43] its installing now [05:43] no probs [05:43] you might have a problem with nvidia from last night [05:44] i dont think im using the nvidia drivers.. guess we'll see [05:44] you might need to ssh in and run 'dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-185-kernel-source' or something like that [05:44] oh okay, nvm then [06:03] anyone have working coverart with 0.22... it doesn't error or anything but it doesn't appear to download the art either. [06:03] jfry_, works for me. have you tried an interactive jamu run? [06:04] no... but I'd like to know why this isn't working first. [06:05] any guesses... for the few I have tried it gives me myth://coverart@myserverIP... as the path to the file... which I assume is correct. [06:06] perhaps the backend isn't providing that interface... do I need to install mythvideo on the backend too? [06:09] hrm... with my pvr-150, when I go to scan for channels it just sits there with "Scanning us-cable-hrc 1 No Lock" [06:10] are you on an hrc carrier? [06:10] yep its all the same settings i used in 0.21 [06:10] im on 0.22 now [06:14] looking at terminal, every time i start the scan it says "DTVParamHelper::toString() index out of bounds" [06:16] superm1, figured out my problem... it was a stupid permissions issue. But now how do I force the ones that think they have coverart to re-download it. [06:18] jfry_, no idea [06:18] jfry_, where were the permissions problems? were they by default, or because you changed something [06:18] on .21 there was a reset meta-data option? where did it go! [06:19] superm1, I created subfolders in my mythtv user's home directory (on large raid array), but forgot that I was su'd so they were created with root:root [06:20] Found it... use 'I' to bring up the menu rather than m [06:22] wheres the mythbuntu bug reporter? this looks like a bug to me [06:22] Seventoes, make sure you are on the latest updates [06:22] it was downloaded today [06:22] from the daily page [06:22] trust me, look for updates [06:23] there was stuff uploaded after that image was spun [06:23] no internet connection on that box atm :-/ [06:23] once i get one, will updates keep me up the same as the daily iso? [06:23] struggling to delete live tv entries via mythweb... they appear to delete and whenone goes back the entries reapear [06:24] some have deleted ok but there are 3 entries remaining which seem to refuse to delete...iow they show again after being deleted [06:24] superml, any tips for using jamu with mytbuntu... where is it even? [06:27] Bum, my VM server can't boot the images it's creating with vm-builder anymore. [06:30] Seventoes, yeah [06:31] jfry_, /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/jamu.py [06:31] jfry_, it runs non-interactively automatically every day too [06:44] superm1, it runs automatically by default, or do I need to configure that? [06:45] jfry_, by default [06:45] one of the jobs runs once an hour [06:45] and one once a day [06:46] superm1, is that a mythtv default or a mythbuntu... I installed using the ubuntu alternate cd, then added the mythtv packages so somethings won't be the same. [06:46] jfry_, it's a mythtv default, but i would recommend that you add mythbuntu-desktop if you want to get everything in the same experience [06:49] so why is mplayer no longer installed by default? [06:50] ToeBee, it's not needed for anything [06:50] mythvideo uses internal now [06:51] superm1, I am not really concerned about having everything on my backend... it will not be used to watch T.V. Once I get everything setup I will drop it to a prompt and leave it there. [06:51] well the reason I'm curious is that I just tried to play a clip that claims to be a 1080i .mov file from nasa. I believe in myth it used the internal player [06:51] it was unwatchable but mplayer played it just fine [06:52] ToeBee, well then you should change your video profile [06:52] ToeBee, you can always set an alternate player [06:52] odds are you're not using VPDAU or your deinterlacer is too intense for it [06:54] hmm [06:56] superm1, heres a good question... why the heck does mythvideo show my recordings directory... I want it to start in the videos directory [06:56] superm1, I didn't see a setting for that. [06:57] jfry_, did you not make a videos storage group? [06:57] or did you remove the default one? [06:57] I did... that's why it's strange [06:58] When I open mythvideo I see "storage groups" and "recordings" as my options and I have to pick from there. [06:58] jfry_, did you override the setting in the frontend perhaps? [06:58] there is a setting in mythvideo for where it looks for "Non storage groups" videos [06:59] superm1, you nailed it! [07:00] was this a problem with a default setting? [07:00] I must have typed /home/mythtv/recordings in a rush [07:00] or again because of stuff you changed? [07:00] oh okay [07:00] you can just set that to blank [07:00] and then use storage groups only [07:00] works better for remote frontends [07:01] I will do that now... thanks. [07:04] superm1, ok... last question (for now at least) why doesn't it play iso's of DVD's do I need to install a library of some sort? [07:04] I can't imagine I need decss [07:05] !iso% | jfry_ [07:05] jfry_: Storage Groups are a streaming method of transmitting material to a frontend, meaning they don't provide block-level access to the file in question. An ISO is a disk image, and libdvdnav/libdvdcss, the libraries used to view DVDs/DVD images, requires block-level access. Upstream has a plan to simulate a block device across the network using NBD for .23. See http: [07:06] oh awesome, the link is cut off [07:06] tgm4883, ^ [07:06] anyway, you have to use non-storage groups for ISOs if you want to use them [07:06] so if you set that directory in the frontend settings to where you keep your ISOs, they'll be playable [07:06] mmmm HD space pr0n [07:06] but not sharable over the network to remote frontends [07:06] superm1, damn... so either I need to transcode my iso's or export them using NFS/samba [07:06] jfry_: Please watch your language. [07:08] superm1, ever seen a decent script that will batch transcode a bunch of iso's and img's to something a bit more portable? [07:09] beats me [07:09] superm1, it will work find with videots folders though right? [07:10] "vidoes folders"? [07:10] like folders filled with videos? [07:10] no ts folders... like you find on a dvd? [07:10] i dont know if that stuff is supported [07:10] check with the guys in #mythtv-users if no one in here is sure [07:12] superm1: aha! the mythtv wiki says my video card suffers from "occasional stutter" when de-interlacing 1080i using VDPAU [07:15] hmm I also seem to be hearing a very high pitched whine out of my speakers after a few seconds of no audio (when power saving kicks in?) [07:16] ToeBee, well if VDPAU doesnt work for that format, you can try to mark that file format to open with mplayer still [07:16] and mplayer is still on the repos [07:16] yeah that's what I did [07:17] actually my default player is set to mplayer from before the upgrade :) [07:17] but .mov was explicitly set to open with the internal player [07:19] just seems like mplayer isn't getting much love lately [07:20] not just in mythtv... although I'm not at all sure where i got that impression from [07:21] it is entirely possible I am starting to go insane due to lack of sleep [07:23] the good news is that I think I have a halfway decent lirc config set up [07:24] its too bad that it takes so much work for your remote [07:24] mine works OOTB :) [07:24] well it didn't help that I had never touched lirc before [07:25] since I just used a wiimote before. Which worked but it was slightly annoying to have to ssh in to start wminput every time I wanted to use mythtv [07:26] that and the wiimote goes through batteries like there is no tomorrow [07:27] did the wiimote provide you enough buttons? [07:28] I managed to get most of the functionality I use packed in [07:29] -/+ = prev/next ad flag, home = ESC, A = P, B = Enter [07:29] and of course up/down/left/right [07:30] yeah but you need to memorize what all those mean then :) [07:30] heh well yes [07:31] had 1 and 2 buttons mapped too. Don't remember what they did though [07:31] I think maybe program guide and toggling recording [07:33] really the only thing missing compared to the remote I have now was volume control and I could do that on my stereo [07:33] well and I guess number buttons [07:33] and proper labels :) [07:33] details [07:33] i'm surprised that it went through batteries quick though. did it not support lower power modes? [07:33] it was relatively intuitive... to me [07:34] well I guess batteries would last for several days if I remembered to turn it off at night [07:34] that's pretty bad [07:34] but if I left it paired, batteries would be dead in under 2 days [07:35] well normal BT devices that are paired aren't always active though [07:35] i mean i've got a mouse that can go on for months because it goes to sleep [07:35] hmm maybe I could have tweaked cwiid [07:35] maybe it just didn't support that too [07:36] I eventually just made a cron job. "killall wminput" at 2 AM [07:38] man I'm kind of surprised at how much horsepower this music visualization takes to run at 1080p [07:38] pretty much keeping 1 of my cores busy on a quad AMD [07:40] well now I just need boxee to hurry up and get a 64 bit build out the door. Then I think I'll be in HTPC heaven [07:41] i think boxee is less important now that we have huludesktop though [07:41] or at least as close as is possible with the cable company and their DRM [07:41] well actually hulu desktop is segfaulting on me :( [07:42] curse proprietary apps and their lag in 64 bit support! [07:42] I think it is actually flash that is bombing out [08:00] oh sweet jesus I just about had a heart attack. Somehow dpkg thought it would be a good idea to do a reconfigure on lirc [08:13] haha [08:32] bug 382140 [08:32] Bug 382140 in linux (Ubuntu) "karmic: high-pitched noise from snd-hda-intel" [Undecided, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/382140 [08:32] it bites me! [09:14] it seems my Imon based Antec Veris Basic is still being hogged by usbhid driver in latest with 0.8.6 lirc. anyone have tips to stop that so I can try and get lirc working properly with my remote ? [09:23] hal fdi files are the only way to blacklist stuff like that i thought [09:35] superm1: I wouldn't know, this is a little out of my linux league is this a similar thing ? just need to adapt to mythbuntu I guess http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=40290&highlight=antec+micro+fusion [09:37] superm1: and if I follow the first few steps then indeed my driver is listed as usbhid but dmesg also shows "lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, major 61 " and "lirc_imon: Driver for SoundGraph iMON MultiMedia IR/Display, v0.6 .... usbcore: registered new interface driver lirc_imon" [09:39] * hipitihop is confused as to what to try next and would love to actually use his shiny new htpc using a remote [12:08] Mythfrontend on another pc will not connect to the baclend === tmkt_ is now known as tmkt [14:01] ola [14:02] quick q...with the new ubuntu... screen-profiles doesn't seem to do anything..with the previous one..it made my screen nice and pretty [14:04] never mind [14:04] all figured out [14:05] have to start with byobu instead [15:09] hipitihop, usbhid isn't shipped as a module anymore, it's either built in or re-named [15:09] look for a howto for xbmc on ubuntu jaunty or later [15:09] there's a lot of people who have fusions set up [15:09] that or just wait until someone does a karmic one [15:09] rhpot1991, ^ maybe you have some hints to point hipitihop at? [15:20] hipitihop: what does your `lsusb |grep iMON` say? [15:20] I think he has a newer version than mine [15:22] hipitihop: this has worked for others: http://www.avenard.org/media/Patches_&_Add-Ons/Entries/2009/4/10_iMON_0038_LCD_working_with_LCDd_(updated_for_jaunty).html === squidly__ is now known as squidly [17:19] J-rod does rock [17:24] he got it workin? [17:26] yup [17:26] how's the patch look? [17:26] dunno..he's putting it on the lirc mailing list shortly [17:27] it's too bad this was the day after kernel freeze [17:27] we coulda had it [17:27] of course..:) [17:27] well once the patch is sorted out, we'll need a quick howto for how to install lirc-modules-source, add the patch and rebuild for people [17:28] and then shoot for an SRU with it [17:28] yeah..he's putting something like that in the lirc mailing list [17:30] can you please file a bug about this too against lirc? [17:30] so we can track it and try to SRU it etc [17:31] sure..gotta go..i'll be back pm me [18:47] mythtv-frontend: Depends: mythtv-common but it is not going to be installed [18:47] ??? [18:48] I have the frontend on my laptop just fine, x86, but my desktop x64 does not want to install it? [18:48] The backend x64 has everything running on it superbly. [18:49] Why just this machine? [18:52] darthanubis, likely your mirror doesn't have the build yet [18:52] try switching to archive.ubuntu.com [18:53] * darthanubis checking mirrors [18:54] as opposed to us.archive.ubuntu right? [18:54] Yup [18:54] got it [18:54] us.archive.ubuntu.com usually lags by about 6-12 hours [18:54] ahhhh [18:55] I always thought that one was as current as "main" [18:55] I would have tried that eventually, but glad you were lurking:) [19:14] superm1, worked! But you knew that;) [20:29] so... does beta contain 22 rc1? [22:43] ExeInet_: yes [22:43] I'd suggest using a nightly disk rather than the beta disk. Or even better, enable the auto-build PPA. [22:44] mrand, I don't think beta contains 22 rc1 [22:44] I think it was uploaded after beta was released [22:45] but yea, 9.10 does have 0.22 rc1 now [22:45] True that the beta disk itself contains "pre" 22rc1 - if you do your updates, you end up with rc1 though. [22:51] frontend was working fine, now crashes as I try to navigate to the daily show [22:52] darthanubis: Anything in /var/crash? [22:53] darthanubis, Jon Stewart is more funny than the frontend can handle :( [22:53] tgm4883, apparently [22:53] mrand, yes, surprisingly [22:53] but yea, /var/crash? [22:53] or [22:53] !logs [22:53] MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin. [22:54] uploading the crash report now [22:54] If it is myth releated, then type ubuntu-bug where is whatever package name is in /var/crash [22:54] Thanks. [22:55] thanks for the details [22:55] * darthanubis not a noob ;) [22:55] darthanubis: never know. Thanks for helping out!! [22:56] thx you, I understnad, and my pleasure! [22:57] plays everything else, but is choking on Stewart [22:57] weird [22:57] Indeed... very, very strange. [22:57] maybe something with the stewart file I was watching has the backend stuck on his file? [22:59] The hardest part for me about filing bugs is describing what was the cause [22:59] because usually I'm just trying to use the application as intended [23:00] darthanubis: since you're up on stuff... could you also post the logs with mythbuntu-log-grabber? I think ubuntu-bug is still being fine tuned, so it would be nice to compare and see what info is and is not being captured. [23:02] np [23:04] Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. [23:05] Hmmm. There are a lot of things wrong with Launchpad, but it does appear to be working for me at the moment. [23:05] I got around it [23:06] coo. thanks [23:08] http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f6afd6e32 [23:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythtv/+bug/452579 [23:08] Strange. there is something wrong with launchpad - I can't open that bug (yet) [23:09] it was private for some reason [23:09] try now [23:09] I should have access to private ones. [23:10] *ponder* [23:14] darthanubis: you still there? [23:17] sorry I went to the backend physically [23:17] could not ping it [23:17] still can't [23:18] oh well [23:18] Interesting. I'm about to turn the bug back private. I'd like to see if I can access it then. [23:18] k [23:20] Ok. Everything is fine. Guess earlier a cache hadn't been updated or something. [23:21] Thanks for the report. We've had trouble with symbol info in the reports - we'll see if that's been fixed. [23:21] When retrace gets ahold of it. [23:22] cool [23:36] * tuv0k darthanubis' backened here [23:38] os[Linux 2.6.31-14-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "karmic" 9.10] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.39GHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 74.0% free] disk[Total: 141.1GB, 69.8% free] video[Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel] [23:51] * hipitihop waves good morning to the residents [23:52] superm1: mu lsusb reports .. Bus 003 Device 002: ID 15c2:0043 SoundGraph Inc.