| Kermiac | is anyone around to give me some advice? I setup 2 PC's (1 jaunty & 1 karmic) yesterday but cannot add a jaunty PC today. Everything installed ok but the webpage to authorize this PC doesnt show up | 00:40 |
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| Kermiac | i've looked thru a fair number of bug reports related to this & i'm not using a proxy | 00:40 |
| wgrant | Is the Notes web UI meant to do anything? | 00:46 |
| Kermiac | ok, I've found a bug report with the same issue posted today that I added to. | 01:12 |
| Kermiac | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/451670 | 01:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 451670 in ubuntuone-client "no HTTPSConnection._tunnel_host in python <= 2.6.2" [Undecided,New] | 01:12 |
| Kermiac | let me know if you need any more info | 01:13 |
| patrickballeux | Just a quicky... in the web inteface of Ubuntu One, when a folder has 15-20 files in it, I cannot see the last files because of the little cloud at the bottom. | 02:37 |
| patrickballeux | A bit annoying | 02:38 |
| tiz_ | Sorry, I am sure this must be an FAQ and/or my own stupidity, but I can't find the answer on the page... I didn't get a webpage pop up at Step 4 of the installation instructions to "Add My Computer", and I can't see this button anywhere on the web-page. | 11:41 |
| tiz_ | What am I doing wrong? | 11:41 |
| diverse_izzue | hi. my ubuntuone doesn't connect automatically after the first login after a system boot. syncdaemon-exceptions.log is empty. | 11:49 |
| diverse_izzue | my syncdaemon.log is here: http://pastebin.com/m237acfe8 | 11:50 |
| rachaelb | hi | 12:03 |
| rachaelb | so my account is still showing only 2gb rather than the 50gb i've paid for | 12:04 |
| rachaelb | and the new applet just will not connect | 12:04 |
| rachaelb | this has been going on for >2 days now | 12:04 |
| rachaelb | i thought it was being sorted???? | 12:04 |
| rachaelb | is canonical going to refund for my money for a useless service (as actually required under UK law) or make some sort of gesture of goodwill to all those affected by this??? | 12:05 |
| rachaelb | fabulous response as ever - it's been fun | 12:10 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, what is the applet doing? | 12:11 |
| rachaelb | hi | 12:11 |
| rachaelb | absolutely nothing | 12:11 |
| rachaelb | zip/nada/sweet fa | 12:11 |
| rachaelb | it will not connect | 12:11 |
| rachaelb | and then there's the whole issue of $$$ handed over for a service that apparently i no longer have | 12:12 |
| rachaelb | not that i could use it even if i did because the applet doesnt work | 12:12 |
| rachaelb | it *did* work and then this latest downgrade has killed it | 12:12 |
| rachaelb | great well any time anyone from canonical fancies actually getting in touch my email is "launchpad at rlb.me" | 12:15 |
| rachaelb | i guess i won't hold my breath though | 12:15 |
| CardinalFang | (sorry, on a call) | 12:16 |
| rachaelb | hi | 12:16 |
| aquarius | rachaelb, hi | 12:21 |
| aquarius | rachaelb, OK, it looks like there are two separate issues here; your account showing 2GB instead of 50GB, and the applet not connecting for you; do I have those right? | 12:22 |
| rachaelb | yep | 12:22 |
| rachaelb | i was told 3 days ago that the account issue would be fixed - it hasnt | 12:22 |
| jblount | rachaelb: Does https://edge.one.ubuntu.com/account/ show you the correct plan? | 12:23 |
| rachaelb | yes it does | 12:23 |
| jblount | rachaelb: I'm very sorry this isn't on production yet, but I got that fix out the same night you spoke with pfibiger about this appearing incorrectly. We should have it rolled out to the proper website later today. | 12:24 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, as far as the storage space, it is simply a problem in description and not an imposed limit, and as far as I know, you could actually store terabytes of data at present. | 12:24 |
| rachaelb | terrabytes???? | 12:24 |
| rachaelb | ok... and the applet issue is in hand i take it? | 12:25 |
| jblount | rachaelb: I'm not sure exactly what your client is doing, but I have been seeing lots of bugs get marked as resolved concerning connection issue. I just deleted a few folders in my Ubuntu One files and it got replicated perfectly (on current / upgraded Karmic) | 12:27 |
| rachaelb | the client is doing anything - it is stubbornly refusing to connect | 12:27 |
| jblount | rachaelb: Yikes! Is it popping open a web browser window at any point while it's being stubborn? | 12:28 |
| rachaelb | nope | 12:28 |
| rachaelb | i can go to the web page from it | 12:28 |
| rachaelb | but then i have to re-authorise the computer every time i do that | 12:28 |
| rachaelb | this computer now has about 8 different id codes | 12:29 |
| CardinalFang | Ah. | 12:29 |
| jblount | rachaelb: That sounds like one of these bugs that is already resolved. Have you updated your computer recently? | 12:29 |
| rachaelb | last night was the most recent | 12:29 |
| rachaelb | about 13 hours ago | 12:29 |
| * jblount hopes for more insight from CardinalFang | 12:30 | |
| rachaelb | im just checking on synaptic now to see if im missing an update | 12:31 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, do you have a file "~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log" ? | 12:32 |
| jblount | rachaelb: I had to reboot because of the last update, although I'm wary of suggesting a reboot on an Ubuntu machine as a fix for anything :) | 12:32 |
| rachaelb | ok there's no ubuntuone client update available | 12:32 |
| rachaelb | and the machine has been turned off over night | 12:32 |
| rachaelb | so it has been rebooted | 12:32 |
| rachaelb | im just checking on the file | 12:33 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, also from a terminal, $ ps x |grep ubuntuon[e] | 12:33 |
| rachaelb | ok ive got 6 exceptions logs | 12:35 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, okay. Please paste the contests of the un-dated one to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and give us the URL. | 12:36 |
| rachaelb | the ps x | grep gives: | 12:36 |
| rachaelb | 2427 ? Sl 0:16 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/ubuntuone-client-applet | 12:37 |
| rachaelb | 2555 ? Sl 0:17 /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon | 12:37 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, perfect. it doesn't have to be the entire file, btw. Duplication isn't necessary to paste. | 12:37 |
| rachaelb | and the paste url is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/293868/ | 12:38 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, those multiple authorisations sound strange to me. Let's remove all of them and re-auth. | 12:41 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, first, $ killall -r ubuntuone-.\* | 12:41 |
| rachaelb | as i said earlier every time ive gone to the web site ive had to re-authorise this machine | 12:41 |
| rachaelb | ok | 12:41 |
| rachaelb | is this as root or user? | 12:42 |
| rachaelb | ok... as user works | 12:42 |
| rachaelb | done | 12:42 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, normal user. I assume you're not running as root always, right? | 12:42 |
| rachaelb | no i'm not lol | 12:42 |
| CardinalFang | then, Applications -> Accessories -> Passwords and Encryption Keys | 12:42 |
| rachaelb | yup | 12:43 |
| CardinalFang | Under login passwords, how many "UbuntuOne token...." items do you have? | 12:43 |
| rachaelb | none | 12:44 |
| rachaelb | nada | 12:44 |
| rachaelb | zilch | 12:44 |
| CardinalFang | What else do you have in there? | 12:44 |
| rachaelb | ive got 2 "Desktop Couch User" tokens that seem to be associated with ubuntuone | 12:45 |
| === tiz_ is now known as tiz | ||
| rachaelb | btw it probably doesnt make any difference but im running UNR if that helps | 12:46 |
| CardinalFang | Thanks. It *shouldn't* be different. | 12:47 |
| rachaelb | i didnt think so | 12:47 |
| CardinalFang | I'm trying to imagine why you dont have at least one "UbuntuOne token" . | 12:47 |
| rachaelb | anyway "Desktop Couch user authentication" mean anything to you? it's only associated with ubuntuone | 12:47 |
| CardinalFang | Yes, it does mean something to me, but it's not the cause. | 12:48 |
| rachaelb | oh ok | 12:48 |
| rachaelb | ive only got 7 other keys stored and they're for wifi, mobile boradband, exchange server, IM accounts | 12:48 |
| rachaelb | apart from not auto-connecting everything was working fine until the new applet came out | 12:49 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, From a terminal again: | 12:50 |
| CardinalFang | $ gnome-open http://google.com/ | 12:50 |
| CardinalFang | What happened? | 12:51 |
| rachaelb | google opened up | 12:51 |
| rachaelb | if i right click on the applet and select "go to web" it does it... tho i have to sign in with launchpad | 12:52 |
| rachaelb | just out of mindless curiosity... why "cardinal fang"???? | 12:52 |
| aquarius | CardinalFang, it might be worth rachaelb killing the applet and starting it again from the terminal, which should kick off authentication (or report why it didn't) | 12:52 |
| aquarius | ? | 12:53 |
| rachaelb | the applet has already been killed aqaurius | 12:53 |
| rachaelb | can restart it | 12:53 |
| aquarius | rachaelb, can you restart the applet from the command line? (ubuntuone-client-applet) | 12:53 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, you shouldn't have an applet running right now! | 12:54 |
| CardinalFang | aquarius, she just booted not long ago. | 12:55 |
| rachaelb | errrr..... its worked tho | 12:55 |
| rachaelb | and ive even got an unbtnuone token now | 12:56 |
| aquarius | rachaelb, that's good news, excellent | 12:57 |
| rachaelb | so wtf happend???? | 12:58 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, strange. I suggest booting again to see that it works again without any extra effort. | 12:58 |
| rachaelb | will do... im just d/l the latest set of updates | 12:58 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, I don't know yet. That you didn't have a token is a mystery to me. | 12:58 |
| rachaelb | so gimme 10-15 mins and i'll reboot (after ive had a coffee) and come back and let you know whats happening... ok??? | 12:58 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, Okay. I'll be away then, but plenty of people are here. | 12:59 |
| rachaelb | i now have this computer authorised 7 times on the account lol | 12:59 |
| rachaelb | hang on the updates are just installing | 13:00 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, right, ubuntuone site has given out seven access tokens to your machine, and a minute ago, it had none stored. | 13:00 |
| rachaelb | be 2 mins | 13:00 |
| rachaelb | yup | 13:00 |
| diverse_izzue | i also have a problem with ubuntuone. my client doesn't auto-connect after the first login after a system boot. manually connecting via the applet works though. | 13:01 |
| diverse_izzue | the error log is empty | 13:01 |
| rachaelb | does it make a difference that the last connection was made by starting the applet form the command line? | 13:01 |
| CardinalFang | rachaelb, probably not. | 13:01 |
| rachaelb | ok .... nearly there with the updates | 13:02 |
| CardinalFang | diverse_izzue, right-click on applet, "preferences". What says "connect on start"? | 13:02 |
| rachaelb | preparing linux headers.... *snooze* | 13:03 |
| diverse_izzue | automatically | 13:03 |
| CardinalFang | diverse_izzue, Huh. I don't know. Anyone? aquarius, you take this one! :) | 13:04 |
| * CardinalFang is afk for a while. | 13:04 | |
| aquarius | diverse_izzue, so it's set to connect on start, and yet it is not connecting on start. Interesting :) | 13:05 |
| aquarius | diverse_izzue, do I have that correct? | 13:05 |
| rachaelb | hi aquarius... am re-booting now... back in 2 mins :) | 13:05 |
| diverse_izzue | right. i'm quite positive that it only does it after the first login after system boot. after logout/login it connects. i'll verify this as soon as i can log out. | 13:05 |
| aquarius | diverse_izzue, that sounds like it might be an actual bug; can you report it with "ubuntu-bug ubuntuone-client" for us? | 13:06 |
| aquarius | rachaelb, cool :) | 13:06 |
| diverse_izzue | aquarius, i sure can. and will. | 13:06 |
| aquarius | diverse_izzue, thanks! | 13:06 |
| diverse_izzue | the other thing: are couchdb contacts supposed to work? | 13:06 |
| diverse_izzue | i get a 404 in the web UI | 13:06 |
| diverse_izzue | and an error message in evolution | 13:07 |
| diverse_izzue | aquarius, ^ | 13:11 |
| aquarius | diverse_izzue, the contacts web UI isn't released yet. Evolution shouldn't be throwing errors, though. rodrigo_ is your person to talk to about that, if you have a record of the error | 13:12 |
| diverse_izzue | evo | 13:12 |
| rodrigo_ | diverse_izzue: which error message? | 13:12 |
| rachaelb | hi aquarius | 13:13 |
| rachaelb | ok... it's playing nicely now | 13:13 |
| rachaelb | thankyou soooooo much | 13:13 |
| rachaelb | :) | 13:13 |
| aquarius | rachaelb, No problem. I'm glad it works for you! Welcome to Ubuntu One. :) | 13:13 |
| rachaelb | must have been a less than clean upgrade from the old to the new applet | 13:14 |
| rachaelb | now.... whats this about *terrabyes* of storage? | 13:14 |
| aquarius | rachaelb, ignore that comment. ;) | 13:14 |
| rachaelb | ok... better not move stuff over then from my main storage supplier | 13:15 |
| rachaelb | can i make a couple of development suggestions? | 13:15 |
| aquarius | Moving your terabytes of stored data: Not just yet (the 50GB is the largest plan, currently). We're looking at larger plans; if you'd really like that to happen, filing a request through the bugtracking system or mentioning it on the mailing list is a good way to make sure your request is on our radar. | 13:16 |
| aquarius | Certainly make suggestions! | 13:16 |
| diverse_izzue | rodrigo_, "error loading address book." this address book cannot be opened. this either means that an incorrect URI was entered, or the server is unreachable. Detailed error messge: Address Bok does not exist" | 13:17 |
| rodrigo_ | diverse_izzue: this means desktopcouch is not running, or that evo can't authenticate to dc | 13:17 |
| rachaelb | ok.... (1) you're kinda assuming that people at the moment don't already have on-line storage accounts... but many people (including myself) do with substantial amounts of data in them (in may case >350 gig). | 13:17 |
| rodrigo_ | diverse_izzue: can you please open a terminal and: | 13:17 |
| rodrigo_ | $ evolution --force-shutdown | 13:18 |
| rodrigo_ | $ /usr/lib/evolution/evolution-data-server-2.28 | 13:18 |
| rachaelb | if i was to move over to ubuntuone i would have to re-upload all that data which is impossible. some sort of "wget" facility on the web site would allow direct http transer from my current storage provider | 13:18 |
| rodrigo_ | then run evolution and try again, and pastebin the output in the terminal? | 13:18 |
| rachaelb | (2) it would be nice not only to be able to choose which files to sync locally, but also to elect to have files on-line that are not synced as well... allowing for a redundant storage facility | 13:19 |
| diverse_izzue | i don't have the eds executable where you say it is... | 13:19 |
| rachaelb | (3) some sort of on-line zoho docs type integration would be very useful as would an on-line media player | 13:19 |
| diverse_izzue | found it | 13:20 |
| aquarius | rachaelb, (3) is on our list of "things that lots of people have asked for" :) | 13:20 |
| rachaelb | thats good... i think (1) + (2) are kinda important as well tho | 13:21 |
| aquarius | rachaelb, (1) is an interesting one; I don't think anyone's brought that up before. Can I ask you to file a request for that with the bug tracker so we don't lose sight of it and our product manager can prioritise it? | 13:21 |
| rodrigo_ | diverse_izzue: oh, where was it? | 13:21 |
| rachaelb | yeah sure | 13:21 |
| rachaelb | thanks for your time | 13:21 |
| diverse_izzue | rodrigo_, exactly where you said. i misread | 13:22 |
| diverse_izzue | rodrigo_, http://pastebin.com/m35812fab | 13:22 |
| rodrigo_ | diverse_izzue: ah, ok :) | 13:22 |
| rodrigo_ | diverse_izzue: right, desktopcouch not running | 13:22 |
| diverse_izzue | rodrigo_, what is supposed to start it? | 13:23 |
| rodrigo_ | aquarius: is dc supposed to be activated by calling the dbus methods? because I'm seeing some people having that problem of it not being running, and not activated by evo-couchdb | 13:23 |
| aquarius | rodrigo_, yes it is | 13:23 |
| rodrigo_ | diverse_izzue: I think it should, if the dbus service is correctly setup | 13:23 |
| diverse_izzue | rodrigo_, i have two couchdb processes running, but indeed no couchdb process | 13:24 |
| diverse_izzue | sorry, no desktopcouch process | 13:24 |
| rodrigo_ | diverse_izzue: and the couchdb processes are running under your user? | 13:24 |
| aquarius | diverse_izzue, can you try this: python -c "from desktopcouch.records.server import CouchDatabase; db=CouchDatabase('management',create=True)" | 13:25 |
| aquarius | and paste the output? | 13:25 |
| diverse_izzue | rodrigo_, yes they are | 13:26 |
| rodrigo_ | so, it's the dc dbus service not running | 13:26 |
| rodrigo_ | diverse_izzue: run the command aquarius pasted, please | 13:27 |
| diverse_izzue | aquarius, rodrigo_, that gives me a traceback: http://pastebin.com/m563bc72d | 13:27 |
| aquarius | 401? | 13:28 |
| * aquarius scratches head | 13:28 | |
| rodrigo_ | unauthorized, that is | 13:28 |
| aquarius | diverse_izzue, ok. as you (not as root!) "killall beam.smp" then "killall desktopcouch-service" | 13:28 |
| aquarius | rodrigo_, yeah, I know what it is, I don't know why it's happening :) | 13:28 |
| aquarius | diverse_izzue, then "rm $HOME/.config/desktop-couch/desktop-couchdb.ini" | 13:29 |
| aquarius | then try that python command again | 13:29 |
| aquarius | this will not lose any of your data in couchdb | 13:29 |
| diverse_izzue | aquarius, http://pastebin.com/m3e226b4b | 13:31 |
| aquarius | diverse_izzue, which version of desktopcouch are you running? apt-cache policy python-desktopcouch | 13:32 |
| diverse_izzue | aquarius, sorry, after killing the beam.smp it successfully starts the couchdb | 13:33 |
| aquarius | aha, good | 13:33 |
| diverse_izzue | and also works in evo now | 13:33 |
| aquarius | so desktopcouch got confused | 13:33 |
| aquarius | I think you might have had a very old ini file. Which makes you one of our early adopters and so we love you :) | 13:34 |
| diverse_izzue | thanks :_) | 13:34 |
| diverse_izzue | (i was an early adopter) | 13:34 |
| diverse_izzue | lemme just logout/login to confirm the bug we were talking about before... | 13:35 |
| diverse_izzue | BRB | 13:35 |
| aquarius | if you had an ini file without oauth tokens in it then you've been using DC nearly since the beginning ;) | 13:35 |
| rodrigo_ | cool, I guess that's the problem people are having, old .ini files | 13:36 |
| rodrigo_ | so, now I can go happily to have lunch :) | 13:36 |
| rodrigo_ | bbl | 13:36 |
| aquarius | rodrigo_, yep! deleting the ini file does not delete any data, so you can advise people to do it. It will break any pairings they have done between machines, though. | 13:37 |
| aquarius | (not pairing with U1, though) | 13:37 |
| diverse_izzue | aquarius, the autoconnect issue is now filed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/452125 | 13:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 452125 in ubuntuone-client "ubuntuone-client doesn't autoconnect after first login after system boot" [Undecided,New] | 13:44 |
| aquarius | diverse_izzue, thanks! | 13:44 |
| * dobey should write a blog entry about filing good bug reports | 14:01 | |
| CardinalFang | aquarius, thisfred, hej hej. | 14:02 |
| aquarius | CardinalFang, hi | 14:02 |
| thisfred | bonjour CardinalFang | 14:03 |
| thisfred | CardinalFang: don't know if you've followed along, but we may be running into a bug in effing Apache | 14:03 |
| CardinalFang | Figures. | 14:04 |
| thisfred | CardinalFang: https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=44730 | 14:04 |
| ubottu | issues.apache.org bug 44730 in mod_proxy "duplicate query string in remote server url when using "nocanon" reverse proxy" [Normal,New] | 14:04 |
| aquarius | oo | 14:05 |
| aquarius | well done ubottu :) | 14:05 |
| aquarius | thisfred, where's our proxy configuration? I know I've seen it | 14:05 |
| thisfred | CardinalFang: so in nocanon mode, apache passes the querystring in the raw URI, and as a querystring | 14:05 |
| CardinalFang | Impressive. | 14:05 |
| thisfred | CardinalFang: the obvious solution, turning off nocanon may not work, because we don't know if c1525142nization breaks the signatures | 14:07 |
| CardinalFang | Maybe we should add nginx on another port to find out. | 14:08 |
| thisfred | CardinalFang: and make ssl work on a different port? | 14:10 |
| CardinalFang | Something. All this time wasted because SSL doesn't work in some way has made me hate it hate it hate it. | 14:11 |
| thisfred | ok, I really need to shower before anything else. In the words of Ludo, in the Jim Henson motion picture 'Labyrinth': SMELL BAAAAAAAD! | 14:11 |
| thisfred | brb | 14:12 |
| * dobey wonders how to debug these autoconnect problems | 14:29 | |
| dobey | thisfred: you're the bog of eternal stench? | 14:30 |
| mattgriffin | dobey: +1 for fixing autoconnect problems. just noticed it last night. | 14:30 |
| * dobey makes a note to never room with thisfred at confs. | 14:30 | |
| dobey | mattgriffin: i'd happily fix them if i knew what was wrong :) | 14:31 |
| dobey | i suspect it's a race | 14:31 |
| dobey | and races are hard to fix (I tried once at Colonial Downs, but oi, it was hard to do) | 14:31 |
| thisfred | dobey: hehe, yep, or at least I was this morning | 14:31 |
| === rmcbride_ is now known as rmcbride | ||
| jblount | MEETING BEGINS | 15:00 |
| jblount | Desktop+! Let's meet! Say "me" if you'd like to respond with your TODO / DONE / BLOCKED | 15:00 |
| jblount | CardinalFang | 15:00 |
| jblount | statik | 15:00 |
| jblount | urbanape | 15:00 |
| jblount | aquarius | 15:00 |
| jblount | teknico | 15:00 |
| jblount | rodrigo_ | 15:00 |
| jblount | vdsme | 15:00 |
| jblount | or me | 15:00 |
| rodrigo_ | me | 15:00 |
| urbanape | me | 15:00 |
| CardinalFang | me | 15:00 |
| aquarius | me | 15:00 |
| dobey | i see jblount doesn't love me any more | 15:00 |
| dobey | (me) | 15:00 |
| * jblount hugs dobey | 15:00 | |
| vds | me | 15:01 |
| * jblount also recognizes his need of a meeting-bot | 15:01 | |
| dobey | it's ok, rhythmbox hates me too i think | 15:01 |
| rodrigo_ | jblount: aren't you the bot? you're doing a great job pinging people in time :) | 15:01 |
| === jblount is now known as jblount-bot | ||
| teknico | me | 15:01 |
| jblount-bot | So let's go ahead and get started: | 15:01 |
| jblount-bot | DONE: Calls, Fixed up homepage design, landed homepage design, fretted about javascript linting ( https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=jblount&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=& | 15:01 |
| jblount-bot | TODO: #449799 and #440129 (copy changes and /contacts ui stuff) | 15:02 |
| jblount-bot | rodrigo_: You! | 15:02 |
| jblount-bot | BLOCKED: No, but I am triumphant. | 15:02 |
| rodrigo_ | • DONE: Landed new notes tests branch. More XML<->HTML tomboy notes conversion fixes. Songbird | 15:02 |
| rodrigo_ | • TODO: Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. API documentation for couchdb-glib. Make sandy's snowy test suite work with our server (http://git.gnome.org/cgit/snowy/tree/api/tests.py). Discuss with jdo and aquarius about oauth token per app, not per machine? | 15:02 |
| rodrigo_ | • BLOCKED: no | 15:02 |
| rodrigo_ | urbanape: go! | 15:02 |
| urbanape | DONE: Almost done with the contacts delete confirmation. | 15:02 |
| urbanape | TODO: Fix one little hiccup with my branch and promote. | 15:02 |
| urbanape | BLOCK: None | 15:02 |
| urbanape | CardinalFang: you're up. | 15:02 |
| CardinalFang | DONE: Worked on replication. Developed ulcer. Yelled at couchdb, ssl, apache, and my own code, each. Packaged couchdb in anticipation of bug fix, but abandoned it. | 15:04 |
| CardinalFang | TODO: Help with replication. Fix Bug /451809 with kenvandine. | 15:04 |
| CardinalFang | BLOCKED: Some problem with SSL and Apache, and maybe couchdb. | 15:04 |
| CardinalFang | aquarius, what's the news? | 15:04 |
| aquarius | ⚀ DONE: landed notes web css; wsgi-oops patches to make logs bzipped; improved web-api-tool; nearly headbutted myself to death with annoyance at bloody bloody bloody replication not bloody working; helped jblount with jslint complaints | 15:04 |
| aquarius | ⚁ TODO: work with thisfred and cardinalfang with oauth u1couch; look at oauth-enabling twisted; make tomboy first-sync experience nicer | 15:04 |
| aquarius | ⚂ BLOCKED: can't get u1couch to work; low tolerance for frustration | 15:04 |
| aquarius | ⚃ BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 2 | 15:04 |
| aquarius | dobey-san, show me: wax on, wax off | 15:04 |
| dobey | ☺ DONE: Resubmitted /plans redirect fix, Fixed #451154 | 15:04 |
| dobey | ☹ TODO: Branch client/protocol for stable, Write a nifty "Reporting Good Bugs" blog/document. | 15:04 |
| dobey | ☹ BLCK: Cold and rainy, my bones are aching. | 15:04 |
| dobey | vds ciao | 15:04 |
| vds | DONE:proposed branch on couchdb compaction #449402 | 15:04 |
| vds | TODO: check the status of the storage controller work and decide what to do accordingly | 15:04 |
| vds | BLOCKED: Nope | 15:04 |
| vds | teknico: all yours | 15:04 |
| teknico | DONE: done more reviews; finished adapting the contacts web details and add/edit pages to the new design (#439090) | 15:04 |
| teknico | TODO: landing the adaption of the contacts web details and add/edit pages to the new design (#439090); integrating the client-side code needed by the contacts web ui (#439093) | 15:04 |
| teknico | BLOCK: none | 15:04 |
| teknico | next: noone | 15:04 |
| aquarius | CardinalFang, hahaha ulcer. I know just precisely what you mean | 15:05 |
| thisfred | jawel | 15:06 |
| jblount-bot | MEETING ENDS | 15:06 |
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| jcastro | how would I debug invite problems? I've tried sharing multiple folders with people and the other way around and get no notification of this | 15:07 |
| dobey | jcastro: you never get an e-mail? | 15:14 |
| dobey | (or the other person doesn't) | 15:14 |
| jcastro | both | 15:14 |
| dobey | hmph | 15:14 |
| jcastro | is there like a queue in the webui? | 15:14 |
| dobey | queue? of "invites i need to take action on" ? | 15:15 |
| jcastro | yeah, in the web ui? or is it email only? | 15:16 |
| dobey | i don't think there's web ui for that, but we should probably definitely add some | 15:16 |
| dobey | though i'm not sure how it would work | 15:16 |
| dobey | i don't know that we have any reliable way to map an e-mail address to a username | 15:19 |
| dobey | at some point though, there will be contacts integration | 15:19 |
| dobey | so sharing will be easier | 15:20 |
| jcastro | some hot m-i integration with incoming invites would be useful at some point | 15:20 |
| dobey | yeah, we'll have that for lucid | 15:20 |
| dobey | that's the plan anyway | 15:20 |
| dobey | that's going to be complicated to do though | 15:21 |
| aquarius | dobey, rly? | 15:22 |
| dobey | well i'd like to keep the client usable on other distributions too. message-indicator is an ubuntu thing | 15:22 |
| dobey | it will still probably be easier than doing HTTPS in python though | 15:23 |
| aquarius | dobey, just drop an invite into desktopcouch and then have a watcher which pokes them into the MI. although that doesn't work for people who are invited because they don't have an account yet, but that's gotta be email - we don't know anything else about them | 15:23 |
| amgarchIn9 | is it by design that if I upload a file via the web-interface the applet in taskbar does not notice the change untill restart? | 15:24 |
| dobey | aquarius: well we'll have something do it. probably with a try:except ImportError: on the module, and just do if indicator: everywhere | 15:25 |
| aquarius | dobey, yeah (don't you put things in the MI by calling its d-bus interface?) | 15:25 |
| dobey | amgarchIn9: no. it may be just slow notifying the client from the server. there are some developers working on improving the server side change notifications though | 15:26 |
| dobey | aquarius: there's a python module for it | 15:26 |
| aquarius | dobey, nice, I didn't know that | 15:26 |
| dobey | aquarius: i'd much rather use the that than python-dbus | 15:26 |
| * dobey stabs python-dbus | 15:27 | |
| dobey | although i might just rewrite the applet in C for lucid | 15:27 |
| dobey | to make my life 4343u20535343 times easier | 15:27 |
| amgarchIn9 | dobey: so it is not periodical "polling"? Will server-initiated notification work over firewall? | 15:29 |
| jcastro | rodrigo_: ok, I am all set to get you more tomboy and evo-couch testers or do I wait? | 15:31 |
| rodrigo_ | jcastro: for tomboy, it seems we're still having some people see problems with couchdb connections, so not sure | 15:32 |
| rodrigo_ | jcastro: although I guess it's ok, so yeah go ahead | 15:32 |
| rodrigo_ | jcastro: it's announced on the front page of u1, so yeah | 15:32 |
| rodrigo_ | jcastro: for evo-couchdb, go ahead please! | 15:33 |
| dobey | amgarchIn9: no it doesn't poll. and yes, it should work through the firewall. we open a persistent connection to the server | 15:33 |
| jcastro | rodrigo_: on it in the next ~20 or so. | 15:33 |
| rodrigo_ | jcastro: cool, thanks! | 15:34 |
| jcastro | rodrigo_: hmm, the screenshots on the one front page don't match what the notes webui actually looks like at all, I guess something still needs to land server side? | 15:36 |
| rodrigo_ | jcastro: hmm, I think it's a tomboy screenshot, isn't it? | 15:36 |
| rodrigo_ | the search notes window | 15:36 |
| jcastro | no it's a screenshot of the webui | 15:37 |
| jcastro | one sec, I have to sign out and back in to get to that page | 15:37 |
| jcastro | https://one.ubuntu.com/features/#notes | 15:38 |
| rodrigo_ | jcastro: that's the new UI indeed, it was rolled out yesterday | 15:40 |
| rodrigo_ | jcastro: I thought you meant the shot at one.u1.com when you're not logged in | 15:40 |
| jcastro | ok I don't see that new UI | 15:41 |
| dobey | the new ui isn't done | 15:42 |
| aquarius | new notes UI is done, but it's on edge | 15:42 |
| dobey | if it's not in production it's not done :) | 15:42 |
| rodrigo_ | right, it's on edge, sorry jcastro | 15:42 |
| jcastro | ok, I'll wait until then I think | 15:42 |
| jcastro | no worries! | 15:42 |
| aquarius | dobey, a laudable approach :) | 15:43 |
| rodrigo_ | for people getting yesterday 500 HTTP errors on /notes and /contacts, can you please confirm/deny it works for you today? | 15:43 |
| rodrigo_ | Technoviking: you were getting those, right? | 15:43 |
| jcastro | I still get 404 on contacts | 15:43 |
| jcastro | on both edge and normal | 15:43 |
| aquarius | jcastro, yeah, contacts is restricted access atm | 15:44 |
| rodrigo_ | jcastro: I think that's normal, it's only available to ubuntuone-hackers, right dobey, aquarius? | 15:44 |
| rodrigo_ | right | 15:44 |
| jcastro | ah ok | 15:44 |
| aquarius | notes is available as you say; new notes UI is at edge/notes. Some people were getting 500 errors yesterday from notes, which i think I fixed by jacking up the number of allowed couchdbs :) | 15:44 |
| aquarius | which I think is what rodrigo_ is confirming? | 15:45 |
| jcastro | ok | 15:45 |
| rodrigo_ | yes | 15:45 |
| jcastro | so next issue, bindwood causes a grindfest for me, and it seems that when I make changes locally couchdb then undoes them all back. | 15:46 |
| jcastro | however I noticed people are having desktopcouch problems today so that might be a problem | 15:46 |
| Technoviking | rodrigo_: I'm still getting 404 errors on the contacts, notes is fine | 15:51 |
| rodrigo_ | Technoviking: ok, 404 is normal, access to it is restricted | 15:52 |
| rodrigo_ | so cool, aquarius seems to have fixed the problem then :) | 15:52 |
| aquarius | rodrigo_, temporarily fixed | 15:52 |
| rodrigo_ | aquarius: until we get more users, I guess? | 15:52 |
| aquarius | yeah | 15:52 |
| jcastro | heh | 15:52 |
| jcastro | "Until next week when we'll double our users in a 6 hours period...." | 15:53 |
| amgarchIn9 | U1 uploads other files, does not want to upload local copy if I created that: "failure ALREADY_EXISTS", renames to *.u1conflict. But doesnt download the remote file after several active negotiations. | 15:54 |
| rodrigo_ | aquarius: is there a bug already for this problem? | 15:54 |
| diverse_izzue | the web ui ellipsises file names even if they would easily fit into a column of that width | 15:55 |
| mattgriffin | dobey: is there a bug already open for the autoconnect issue? | 15:56 |
| dobey | mattgriffin: there are a few different bugs open | 15:56 |
| dobey | mattgriffin: but i'm not really sure how to approach debugging them yet | 15:56 |
| dobey | though it's one of the many millions of things on my mind :) | 15:57 |
| mattgriffin | dobey: can you send the #'s my way please | 15:57 |
| amgarchIn9 | more general question: is there a way to run U1 on a headless server? I only rarely login there over X and thought of U1 as a replacement of scp/rsync. | 15:57 |
| amgarchIn9 | *officially supported way | 15:58 |
| dobey | amgarchIn9: there's no truly headless support yet, no | 15:58 |
| dobey | mattgriffin: #452125 is one | 15:59 |
| dobey | mattgriffin: and #450082 is another | 16:00 |
| dobey | mattgriffin: surely there's a few more, but i don't know the #s right now. those 2 were at the top of the list in my mail list :) | 16:06 |
| jcastro | rodrigo_: ok I just did a clean install and the tomboy sync workflow is rocking | 16:15 |
| rodrigo_ | jcastro: cool! | 16:15 |
| jcastro | rodrigo_: the conflict right out of the box with the example notes kind of sucks but it all works | 16:16 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, tomboy should offer another option for conflicts, 'Keep local note' | 16:17 |
| jcastro | yeah, it does all that | 16:17 |
| jcastro | I mean, we should figure out a way in lucid to make it so the first thing the person sees isn't a conflict. | 16:18 |
| jcastro | perhaps have the default notes be a special case or something | 16:18 |
| rodrigo_ | yeah, I talked with sandy about it, and for next cycle, we'll look at a better solution | 16:18 |
| rodrigo_ | not only about this conflict, but about using several sync servers, which doesn't work very well with current tomboy | 16:18 |
| jcastro | cool | 16:22 |
| rodrigo_ | bbiab | 16:31 |
| tiz | Hi all... does UbuntuOne cope well with large numbers of files? Previously I used DropBox but it's sync process required memory in proportion to the file count. | 16:35 |
| tiz | I have a very large number of small files that I want to sync, which caused DropBox to exhaust my machines memory. | 16:36 |
| tiz | Wondering if UbuntuOne will cope better. | 16:36 |
| doktoreas | hello folks | 17:03 |
| doktoreas | is there any problem on the ubuntuone network? | 17:04 |
| doktoreas | I can't connect | 17:04 |
| aquarius | tiz, Ubuntu One should cope fine with many small files, but it would be useful to see that confirmed :) | 17:07 |
| aquarius | doktoreas, you've tried disconnecting and reconnecting? | 17:10 |
| doktoreas | aquarius, same problem | 17:11 |
| aquarius | doktoreas, have you added the machine you are on to Ubuntu One? (It would have asked you "add this machine") | 17:12 |
| doktoreas | aquarius, the icon says disconnected but files are updated | 17:12 |
| doktoreas | yep it worked fine till noe | 17:12 |
| doktoreas | *now | 17:12 |
| aquarius | doktoreas, have you restarted your machine since you started having problems? (don't restart now, if you haven't!) | 17:12 |
| doktoreas | yep | 17:13 |
| aquarius | doktoreas, Can you run this in a terminal window: tail $HOME/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log | 17:13 |
| doktoreas | sure | 17:14 |
| aquarius | and put the output on paste.ubuntu.com and say the URL here? | 17:14 |
| doktoreas | http://paste.ubuntu.com/294082/ | 17:15 |
| doktoreas | now it prompt me for autorization on this computer | 17:16 |
| doktoreas | ah ok, after re-autorization it's ok | 17:16 |
| dobey | hrmm | 17:17 |
| doktoreas | dobey, something serious? | 17:20 |
| dobey | doktoreas: no. just pondering | 17:21 |
| dobey | tiz: like aquarius said, but if it doesn't, we would love to have bug reports detailing the issues better, so we can improve that experience | 17:22 |
| doktoreas | sure | 17:22 |
| aquarius | doktoreas, ah, it's working again now? | 17:23 |
| doktoreas | but now seem fine..It just prompted me for re-autorization | 17:23 |
| dobey | tiz: we do have people who have bzr checkouts of say, the launchpad source tree, in ubuntuone, so it should be ok | 17:23 |
| doktoreas | yep aquarius, after that | 17:23 |
| dobey | aquarius: i'm not sure syncdaemon.log would say anything particularly interesting about that now anyway | 17:23 |
| dobey | (about auth) | 17:23 |
| dobey | we only log info (starting 1.0.0) and errors now | 17:24 |
| aquarius | dobey, yeah, I was just working through -- where does client-applet log to? | 17:24 |
| dobey | oauth-login.log | 17:24 |
| dobey | but again, it won't show anything interesting really | 17:25 |
| dobey | it will just log errors | 17:25 |
| aquarius | yeah | 17:25 |
| aquarius | dobey, if someone's got an incorrect oauth token, that'll show up in syncdaemon.log, won't it? | 17:25 |
| dobey | some of the errors might be useful if it's suggesting something wrong in syncdaemon | 17:25 |
| dobey | aquarius: not really | 17:25 |
| dobey | aquarius: if someone has an invalid token, it will just end up getting deleted, and the "add this computer" phase will happen again automaticaslly | 17:26 |
| aquarius | ah ok | 17:26 |
| dobey | and if there are errors talking to the oauth server to get the token, or launching the browser, it should pop up a dialog anyway | 17:26 |
| dobey | well, unless you're on jaunty | 17:27 |
| dobey | then python will just die from ImportError or something | 17:27 |
| * dobey glares at Python | 17:27 | |
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| olewolf | Hi. Can someone point me towards instructions on how to setup Ubuntu One on a headless server? | 18:07 |
| olewolf | That is, I have a couple of computers, one of them running 24/7 as a headless server. I'd like that computer to synchronize with my Ubuntu One account, too. | 18:08 |
| dobey | we don't exactly support totally headless at the moment with syncdaemon. | 18:10 |
| dobey | we use gnome-keyring to store the access token, and it sort of requires an X display still | 18:11 |
| olewolf | dobey: I realize that, but perhaps there might be a cheat available. I know someone managed to do that with Dropbox. | 18:11 |
| dobey | olewolf: you'd also have to keep a user logged in somehow (probably with screen) | 18:12 |
| dobey | as we don't run as a system service, but a per-user daemon | 18:12 |
| olewolf | One could let a user login via ssh or similar and start a personal daemon. | 18:12 |
| olewolf | In any event, are there plans for headless support? | 18:13 |
| dobey | we don't have any concrete plans to get there at the moment, but we are looking into it and do want to support it, yes | 18:14 |
| olewolf | Sounds great. I guess there's no time frame, though. | 18:15 |
| dobey | well the timeframe is "sometime in the next 6 months" :) | 18:16 |
| dobey | we can't do it for karmic | 18:16 |
| dobey | but we want to for lucid | 18:16 |
| barlas | Lucid is 10.4? | 18:18 |
| olewolf | Interesting, I throught the time frame would be much longer than that. "Sometime in the next six months" is pretty soon. | 18:18 |
| dobey | barlas: yes | 18:20 |
| dobey | olewolf: you would be surprised at the stuff i've done in the last 6 weeks :) | 18:20 |
| dobey | or we've done rather | 18:20 |
| barlas | That's one thing I love about ubuntu and ubuntu related projects, for usual OSS projects even 'soon' is indefinitely long :) | 18:22 |
| dobey | heh | 18:26 |
| olewolf | dobey: you guys are doing a great job. Too often we users don't appreciate it enough. | 18:31 |
| jcastro | olewolf: if you can check to see that it's filed as a wishlist bug in launchpad that would really help out | 18:33 |
| jcastro | (it might already be) | 18:33 |
| teknico | olewolf, your words warm our heart. thank you :-) | 18:34 |
| dobey | olewolf: thanks | 18:34 |
| dobey | i think it is filed | 18:34 |
| dobey | i totally fail at searching bugs in launchpad though | 18:34 |
| raindog | One of my desktops is a multiple-user machine. My question is this: Is Ubuntu One account specific or only specific to a machine? | 20:59 |
| raindog | I want to sync to my account on the other machine, but not share with the other accounts on that machine. | 21:00 |
| dobey | raindog: the desktop client is a per-user daemon | 21:03 |
| statik | it's specific to the user account | 21:03 |
| raindog | dobey, statik : Thanks for the information. | 21:04 |
| Chipaca_ | the filesystem api servers are broken right now, please bare with us; we're working on it | 23:02 |
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