| === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying | ||
| ryanakca | Errr... Is OO.o calc supposed to freeze when someone tries to save for the first time? | 01:11 |
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| * ryanakca tries to figure out how to get a backtrace | 01:18 | |
| === norly is now known as ejat | ||
| echidnaman | Riddell: bug 451915, looks a bit serious | 02:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 451915 in kdeutils "dssprinter-applet.py crashed with SIGSEGV in PyDict_GetItem()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451915 | 02:12 |
| === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| * JontheEchidna 's internet is crappy tonight | 02:12 | |
| shtylman | ryanakca: yes... its a feature (seriously...no...sounds like a bug) | 02:42 |
| shtylman | anyone read this? http://www.itnewstoday.com/?p=1032 | 03:03 |
| shtylman | thoughts? | 03:03 |
| shtylman | mindless rants? | 03:03 |
| JontheEchidna | "Version 9.10 is definitely good so far, but still far from perfect." <- so not much of a downward spiral, then :/ | 03:07 |
| yuriy | downward spiral? a little bit, but you gotta fall a bit to get momentum for the ramp : ) | 03:07 |
| JontheEchidna | some points are good, but a lot of it is: "I don't like KDE's default artwork which nobody else uses plus my wireless has been busted for two releases" | 03:09 |
| JontheEchidna | comments are much more informative than the actual article imo | 03:11 |
| yuriy | some people screaming too much patching, others screaming too vanilla... | 03:13 |
| * yuriy does agree on the wallpaper and (unmentioned) KDM theme though | 03:13 | |
| JontheEchidna | The upstream KDM theme could be improved usability-wise | 03:13 |
| yuriy | maybe that too, but I think we've got to get a Kubuntu logo on there | 03:14 |
| JontheEchidna | with the proper branding maybe upstream art would be sufficient | 03:14 |
| yuriy | pretty much | 03:14 |
| JontheEchidna | we can never please the haters, but who cares? | 03:14 |
| JontheEchidna | vorian: ping | 03:22 |
| shtylman | I think the little things make a big impression (thus the papercut stuff we have) | 03:29 |
| lex79 | kamoso 1.0.4 is still broken :( | 04:21 |
| yuriy | " the instructions for filing bugs on Launchpad ignored Kubuntu altogether, I had to add a link to the Kubuntu instructions myself." interesting. I though bdmurray had done that on my request | 04:31 |
| yuriy | ooh purty http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KubuntuVision?content=113319 though too dark for my tastes. maybe he could make a more mainstream version | 04:39 |
| ScottK | Anyone else having trouble with lid open events not being recognized? | 05:53 |
| sourcemaker | I have a kernel panic with the message: fixing recursive fault but reboot needed"... I think it is nepomuk related... can I find the root course of this problem? | 08:54 |
| Riddell | jtechidna: hmm, python really shouldn't give a segfault (bug 451915) I wonder if he hasn't updated all the new sip/pyqt bits | 10:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 451915 in kdeutils "dssprinter-applet.py crashed with SIGSEGV in PyDict_GetItem()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451915 | 10:42 |
| Riddell | I'll try today's CD and see if it's a problem there | 10:42 |
| hettar | Silly question perhaps, but in 9.10 is it possible to have network manager NOT login to the wifi automatically when connected via cable ? It keeps messing up my routing | 10:59 |
| Riddell | in my experience it doesn't login to wifi automatically | 11:02 |
| Riddell | but that's mainly an upstream request | 11:03 |
| hettar | hmm ok | 11:04 |
| ryanakca | shtylman: Can you reproduce it? I can't seem to manage to find out how to get a backtrace for something that hangs but doesn't crash... Or would I not need one? | 11:34 |
| debfx | where do kded services log to? ~/.xsession-errors? | 11:43 |
| === agateau is now known as agateau|lunch | ||
| Riddell | debfx: if you killall kded4; kded4 it'll put debug output in the terminal | 12:02 |
| Riddell | debfx: and you have to turn it on in kdebugdialog first | 12:02 |
| davmor2 | Riddell: thanks for the update on the bug :) | 12:11 |
| EagleScreen | is ipv6 enabled in Kubuntu 9.10? | 12:14 |
| === agateau|lunch is now known as agateau | ||
| tsimpson | EagleScreen: it's enabled in the kernel, and so available to everything IPv6 aware, including KDE | 13:20 |
| EagleScreen | oh thnaks | 13:21 |
| ScottK | agateau: Thanks for the quassel patch. Worked great and Sput applied it before 0.5 was released. | 13:27 |
| agateau | ScottK: good news | 13:28 |
| Sput | agateau: I did miss your other patch though and couldn't get it into 0.5.0 :/ | 13:28 |
| ScottK | agateau: Yes. | 13:28 |
| ScottK | Sput: Which one was that? | 13:28 |
| agateau | Sput: the one about toggling the main window? | 13:28 |
| Sput | yeha via indicator | 13:28 |
| Sput | the one you sent by mail... I didn't check mail before tagging | 13:28 |
| agateau | It may not need to be applied | 13:28 |
| Sput | well, I did apply it post-tag :) | 13:29 |
| agateau | I realized this morning that it would make kde apps behave differently than gnome apps with regard to indicators | 13:29 |
| agateau | I started a discussion on this on kubuntu-devel ML, | 13:30 |
| agateau | if everybody agree, I'll post patch to switch back to "switch to app" behavior, rather than "toggle" | 13:30 |
| ScottK | I guess I better go read the mail, because I'm not sure I understand the difference. | 13:31 |
| agateau | Sput: I'll let you know if we agree on the "switch to app" behavior | 13:31 |
| agateau | ScottK: yes please :) | 13:31 |
| agateau | ScottK: but the difference is simple: when the app is in front, | 13:31 |
| agateau | right now clicking the indicator app entry hides it, | 13:31 |
| ScottK | Ah, I see. | 13:32 |
| agateau | while for gnome apps, it just ensure the app window is focused | 13:32 |
| Sput | agateau: ok, just so you know, your patch is applied but not in 0.5.0, but it'll be in 0.5.1 unless you send another patch disabling it (or tell me to revert) :) | 13:32 |
| agateau | Sput: ok, will do so if the "switch to app" behavior is decided to be the right noe | 13:32 |
| agateau | *one | 13:32 |
| ScottK | agateau: If I click on the quassel icon when I have a pending highlight, it swtiches me to the right channel. | 13:32 |
| ScottK | Is that what your patch does? | 13:32 |
| agateau | ScottK: if quassel was already visible, clicking on the quassel entry (not a channel entry) currently hides quassel, | 13:33 |
| ScottK | agateau: Not if there's a pending highlight. | 13:33 |
| Sput | that only affects the indicator bubble though, doesn't it? | 13:33 |
| ScottK | Just did it. | 13:33 |
| Sput | I mean, the patch in question | 13:33 |
| agateau | Sput: yes, | 13:34 |
| Sput | it didn't touch anything outside the inidicator backend | 13:34 |
| agateau | Sput: absolutely | 13:34 |
| Sput | the tray behavior just now should be consistent with the rest of KDE | 13:34 |
| agateau | Sput: yes, the tray behavior is not affected | 13:34 |
| Sput | k | 13:34 |
| Sput | thought so :) | 13:34 |
| ScottK | If I understand what the patch does, it sounds like it makes the indicator consistent with the way the app works. | 13:34 |
| agateau | The question is: do we think app windows should hide when they are in front and their app entry is clicked? | 13:36 |
| agateau | ScottK: hiding when in front is the way systray icon works | 13:36 |
| agateau | ScottK: not hiding when in front is the way gnome indicate-enabled app work | 13:36 |
| agateau | ScottK: understand that I am talking about app entry, not indicator entry | 13:37 |
| agateau | (app entry == appname, indicator entry == child of app entry) | 13:37 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 13:38 |
| ScottK | Ping me please. | 13:38 |
| agateau | ScottK: ping | 13:38 |
| ScottK | Right, so I was in a different channel, clicked on the Quassel icon and I came straight here. | 13:39 |
| agateau | ScottK: if you have the 0.5.0 release, you get GNOME behavior | 13:39 |
| agateau | the "hide when on front behavior" is implemented by the patch I sent to Sput, but which did not make it in 0.5.0 | 13:40 |
| agateau | so for Quassel it's already ok | 13:40 |
| agateau | but Konversation, Kopete and KMail patches need to be updated | 13:40 |
| agateau | because they implement "hide when on front" behavior | 13:41 |
| ScottK | agateau: I see. | 13:41 |
| Sput | what is the "app entry"? | 13:41 |
| ScottK | So it sounds like your patch makes the indicator consistent with the upstream icon behavior. | 13:41 |
| * ScottK needs to run. | 13:41 | |
| ScottK | We can chat more later | 13:42 |
| agateau | ScottK: ok | 13:42 |
| agateau | Sput: for each application, the indicator shows an app entry | 13:42 |
| agateau | and every app indicators are shown as children entries of the app entry | 13:42 |
| agateau | so Quassel part of the indicator menu may look like this: | 13:43 |
| agateau | Quassel | 13:43 |
| agateau | - #chan1 | 13:43 |
| agateau | - #chan2 | 13:43 |
| agateau | Clicking #chan1 or #chan2 brings Quassel window to front and switch to the right channel | 13:43 |
| agateau | in 0.5.0, clicking Quassel brings Quassel window to front | 13:44 |
| agateau | but with the patch you integrated after 0.5.0, clicking Quassel will toggle the window: | 13:44 |
| agateau | hide it if it's already on front, show it otherwise | 13:44 |
| Sput | ok | 13:49 |
| Sput | so it behaves like the taskbar then | 13:49 |
| jjesse | morning | 14:25 |
| jjesse | intersting on my VM's for Karmic (both netbook edition and regular) after installing the beta release and updating, i see the kubuntu boot screen and then it flickers to a black screen any ideas what channged? | 14:46 |
| jjesse | running VMWare Workstation 6.5.3 | 14:48 |
| jtechidna | It seems that ubuntu makes usplash kick in until it can start X for usplash/ksplashx | 14:49 |
| jtechidna | *xsplash/ksplashx | 14:50 |
| jtechidna | in which case the half-a-second ksplashx seems unecessary | 14:50 |
| jjesse | jtechidna was that in response to me? | 14:51 |
| jtechidna | yeah, I get that too | 14:51 |
| jjesse | maco: send me a private message when you get a second | 14:52 |
| jjesse | after an install of the beta version i'm able to login, etc but once i update and restart... bam black screen, no login | 14:52 |
| Riddell | dpm: did desktop-kdepim-runtime get sorted? | 15:43 |
| dpm | Riddell, not yet, sorry, let me ask danilo again what the best way to handle this is | 15:44 |
| Riddell | ArneGoetje: last cycle you had a list of translation templates that weren't assigned to packages, do you know if there are any like that is cycle? | 15:48 |
| ArneGoetje | Riddell: let me see... | 15:50 |
| ArneGoetje | Riddell: don't have any list right now. we will get a new translation export soon (should be available tomorrow. I will scan the langpack-o-matic logs for such templates then. | 15:53 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: could you ack bug 452715 please? | 15:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 452715 in kamoso "New upstream release (kamoso 1.0.4)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452715 | 15:55 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: ooh, what's it worth? | 15:55 |
| Riddell | a shoulder massage wouldbe nice, I could be bribed with one of them | 15:56 |
| JontheEchidna | 3.5 internets? :P | 15:56 |
| JontheEchidna | it does get harder to upload stuff after freeze, lol | 15:56 |
| * jjesse looks up a local messager in edinburgh for Riddell | 15:56 | |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: a debdiff and pointer to upstream bug would be handy | 15:57 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: upstream has no bug tracker, but I can get the debdiff | 15:57 |
| JontheEchidna | debdiff attached | 15:57 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, that's actually a source-diff, not a debdiff | 15:58 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: although this is universe so it shouldn't need any ack | 15:58 |
| Riddell | universe is only in feature freeze, bug fixing is all good | 15:58 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, the freeze email said that universe should get motu-release or your ack | 15:59 |
| JontheEchidna | well, your ack for KDE packages | 16:00 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: which e-mail? scotts? | 16:00 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-October/000633.html | 16:00 |
| Riddell | sistpoty's does suggest an ack is needed for all uplaods but I trust ScottK more in https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-October/000634.html that only FFe needs an ack | 16:01 |
| JontheEchidna | kk | 16:03 |
| freeflying | anyone can tell me why I leave kubuntu-bugs team, but still got bug notifications? I just prefer to use gmane to read bug mails | 16:05 |
| freeflying | s/leave/left | 16:06 |
| JontheEchidna | subscriptions are separate from team affiliations | 16:06 |
| tsimpson | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs | 16:07 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna and Riddell: Does the mail to u-d-a clear this up? | 16:35 |
| ScottK | After Universe final freeze, a motu-release ack will be needed, but we aren't there yet. | 16:35 |
| Riddell | I'm clear, it's just sistpoty's older e-mail which was wrong/unclear | 16:35 |
| ScottK | OK. | 16:36 |
| Riddell | new kopete-facebook http://duncan.mac-vicar.com/blog/archives/597 | 16:40 |
| Riddell | wish that had come out a week ago | 16:40 |
| ScottK | It sounds though like it still has enough open questions that we did the right thing. | 16:41 |
| Riddell | yes I think so | 16:44 |
| dany_21a | is this a known bug: the alternative installer stops after "installing base system" and requests to insert medium "Kubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Beta i386 (20090929.3)" into /cdrom/ - which sould be there... but refuses to continue | 17:00 |
| ScottK | davmor2: ^^^ ? | 17:00 |
| dany_21a | is this checked against README.diskdefines on the root of the cdrom... because this states: #define DISKNAME Kubuntu 9.10 "Karmic Koala" - Beta i386 | 17:01 |
| davmor2 | dany_21a: man that's old | 17:01 |
| dany_21a | uh? | 17:01 |
| dany_21a | is it fixable for me? | 17:02 |
| davmor2 | I think it was a general issue that got resolved in latter iso's. | 17:02 |
| dany_21a | hm... ive downloaded the most recent beta torrent (i hope so) | 17:02 |
| davmor2 | oh hang on on beta there were no issues with the iso's sorry | 17:03 |
| davmor2 | dany_21a: have you run the cd checker to makes sure the burn is good? | 17:03 |
| dany_21a | checking the md5... md5 of the iso is correct | 17:04 |
| dany_21a | will check the medium | 17:04 |
| asraniel | final freeze in effect, does that mean that i can install a daily CD now and i have +- the final version? | 17:06 |
| tsimpson | not really, it's not final until it's final | 17:06 |
| dany_21a | davmor2: checker said CD is okay | 17:10 |
| davmor2 | meh pass then I'm afraid. No issues here with beta at all. | 17:48 |
| fabo | Riddell: Qt 4.5.3 fixed in -4 | 17:52 |
| ScottK | It looks like we need a newer python-qt3 to go with the new sip. | 18:01 |
| Riddell | fabo: what needed changing? | 18:56 |
| lex79 | lp bug 449862 | 18:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 449862 in kdepim "empty menus in ktimetracker" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/449862 | 18:58 |
| fabo | Riddell: add patch 08 | 18:58 |
| lex79 | Riddell: ^^ fixed in bzr | 18:58 |
| fabo | Riddell: http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-kde/qt4-x11.git;a=commitdiff;h=2f8c91155f7061185c5bd01c53f41695d54d8778 | 19:00 |
| Riddell | fabo: have I ever said you're a genius? | 19:01 |
| Riddell | so, question is do we want to risk uploading it now | 19:01 |
| fabo | Riddell: you risk nothing. it's already built on kfreebsd ;) | 19:02 |
| Riddell | ScottK: what's wrong with python-qt3? | 19:02 |
| Riddell | I need to stop running hardy, it's difficult to do much useful from here, time to burn a daily CD | 19:03 |
| fabo | I'll probably upload Qt 4.6.0 beta 1 to experimental today | 19:04 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I saw a bug about it, but it may be from before it was updated. Let me ifnd it. | 19:21 |
| jjesse | so i went to download the current live cd from cdimages and it was screamin' at 300k/sec up until the last 100mb of the cd now i'm at 3Kb/sec, any thoughts? | 19:35 |
| ScottK | Patience | 19:36 |
| jjesse | ha | 19:38 |
| ScottK | Wasn't actually kidding | 19:41 |
| jjesse | i know just was curious why it dropped so slow | 19:41 |
| ScottK | #canonical-sysadmin if you want to talk to someone that might actually know. The odds of gettting an answer are low. | 19:42 |
| === m4v_ is now known as m4v | ||
| * JontheEchidna is responsible for 12% of the current archive admin queue \o/ | 20:12 | |
| dany_21a | is it possible to setup a LVM system via the graphical installer (kubuntu karmic) - the alternate version fails for me | 20:21 |
| dany_21a | i have already managed to reuse my old lvm-schema and activate the lvm disks, so that the installer completes... but when i start the fresh installed system, it fails to boot and says it cant find my lvm partitions | 20:23 |
| dany_21a | the initram disk need lvm support... i tried to chroot into the new system and install lvm2 (via apt-get) - which runs update-initramfs and completes without failure... but on reboot it fails again and drops me to an shell | 20:24 |
| dany_21a | (chroot from an live boot cd-rom) | 20:24 |
| dany_21a | ah... nevermind - i forgot to mount /boot into my chroot... - it boots now | 20:31 |
| debfx | Riddell: Caching the brightness value in order to make the fn keys working isn't easily possible, as changing the brightness isn't handled by powerdevil but by libsolid | 20:53 |
| === flacoste_afk is now known as flacoste | ||
| debfx | Riddell: either libsolid has to notify powerdevil or all setBrightness calls have to go through powerdevil | 20:55 |
| Riddell | debfx: I suspect they all do go through powerdevil, although that's not a sensible assumption | 20:56 |
| debfx | Riddell: no, currently powerdevil doesn't have such a function | 20:56 |
| Riddell | sounds like a patch to libsolid is needed though | 20:57 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Since wednesday I've had a problem where my laptop lid open's are not recognized by KDE, resume from suspend works, so I know it isn't hardware. pitti has the same laptop and his works. Suggestions on where I should look? | 20:58 |
| debfx | I could add a dbus method to powerdevil and make libsolid call it on every brightness change | 20:58 |
| ScottK | debfx: What is it you are trying to fix? | 20:59 |
| debfx | ScottK: making the fn brightness keys work if they aren't handled by the hardware | 20:59 |
| ScottK | I see, so since mine work now, it's done in hardware? | 21:00 |
| Riddell | ScottK: karmic-changes for wednesday? we've had changes to kdebase-workspace which works in that area | 21:00 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK. Which binary is powerdevil in? | 21:00 |
| ScottK | I already tried downgrading the kernel and acpi-support with no help | 21:01 |
| debfx | ScottK: probably, if you don't have another power manager installed | 21:01 |
| ScottK | I don't | 21:01 |
| Riddell | Sime: ping ping | 21:04 |
| Sime | Riddell: pong pong | 21:04 |
| Riddell | Sime: we what a crash in sip that appeared in 4.9, would you have any thoughts on bug 451915 ? | 21:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 451915 in kdeutils "dssprinter-applet.py crashed with SIGSEGV in PyDict_GetItem()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451915 | 21:04 |
| Riddell | s/what/have/ | 21:04 |
| debfx | am I the only one whose fn keys aren't handley on the hardware side? :( | 21:06 |
| Sime | Riddell: are you sure your test core generates the same error? | 21:07 |
| Riddell | Sime: pretty sure yes | 21:08 |
| === m4v_ is now known as m4v | ||
| Sime | Riddell: it doesn't crash on jaunty | 21:13 |
| Riddell | Sime: no it's an issue with the sip 4.9/pyqt 4.6 update | 21:14 |
| Sime | Riddell: I've got a hand compiled sip 4.9 / pyqt 4.6, and doesn't crash. | 21:14 |
| Riddell | fooey | 21:15 |
| Sime | yep, just checked the version numbers in the modules. it sip 4.9 and 4.6. | 21:17 |
| Sime | dvd time with wife... | 21:18 |
| Riddell | thanks i'll keep player | 21:18 |
| Riddell | playing | 21:18 |
| Sime | I might be using a week old snapshot BTW. dunno exactly.. | 21:20 |
| Riddell | well it could be something in our packaging bringing out the bug | 21:21 |
| lex79 | I have no crash if I run "python sip-segfault.py" | 21:25 |
| Riddell | lex79: what about printer-applet? | 21:26 |
| lex79 | how to test? | 21:26 |
| Riddell | lex79: run "printer-applet" | 21:26 |
| lex79 | weird, I don't see anything..the applet doesn' appear and I haven't crash | 21:29 |
| Riddell | that means it's running in the background | 21:29 |
| Riddell | which it will until you print something | 21:29 |
| Riddell | lex79: what version of python-qt4 do you have? | 21:30 |
| lex79 | 4.6-1 | 21:30 |
| ScottK | That's no help | 21:30 |
| ScottK | Oh, wait, nevermnd | 21:30 |
| Riddell | lex79: and python-sip4 ? | 21:31 |
| debfx | so what do you think of a notifyOfBrightnessChange() dbus method in powerdevil that would called by solid? | 21:31 |
| lex79 | Riddell: 4.9-1 | 21:31 |
| Riddell | debfx: that makes sense to me | 21:32 |
| lex79 | now I launched a print and TWO printer applet appears in systray | 21:32 |
| lex79 | and print works | 21:32 |
| Riddell | lex79: well that's annoying, the least the bug could do is have the decency to crash for everyone | 21:34 |
| Riddell | lex79: did you say our qt4 bzr packaging has fabo's fix in it? | 21:35 |
| lex79 | this fabo's patch fix qt4 http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-kde/qt4-x11.git;a=commit;h=2f8c91155f7061185c5bd01c53f41695d54d8778 | 21:36 |
| lex79 | I can push in bzr if you want | 21:36 |
| Riddell | lex79: oh it was bug 449862 that was fixed in bzr ? | 21:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 449862 in kdepim "empty menus in ktimetracker" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/449862 | 21:37 |
| lex79 | Riddell: yes | 21:37 |
| Riddell | the conversations got confused | 21:37 |
| lex79 | I uploaded in bzr the fix for ktimetracker | 21:38 |
| Riddell | lex79: I'll upload the ktimetracker fix if you push fabo's patch to bzr then :) | 21:38 |
| lex79 | Riddell: ok | 21:38 |
| lex79 | btw, in my system there isn't crash with printer-applet, and the printer print...but printer-applet doesn't appear in systray | 21:40 |
| lex79 | that is all | 21:40 |
| Riddell | lex79: you just said "TWO printer applet appears in systray" | 21:41 |
| lex79 | Riddell: because I launched printer-applet in konsole, and after I launched a print | 21:43 |
| Riddell | seele: facebook ping | 21:52 |
| seele | Riddell: you went away! | 21:53 |
| seele | you didnt even give me a chance to respond! | 21:53 |
| Riddell | seele: hmm, I'm not convinced this new kopete-facebook works | 21:54 |
| seele | it shows you offline | 21:56 |
| seele | try again? | 21:56 |
| Riddell | trynow | 22:00 |
| seele | still not working | 22:01 |
| seele | i get your message but when i send one it says youre offline | 22:01 |
| Riddell | mm, one sided conversations have limited use | 22:01 |
| Riddell | shame | 22:01 |
| Riddell | I'll upload it anyway, can't be any worse than the current and it's in universe | 22:02 |
| ScottK | Riddell: kopete-facebook accepted | 22:17 |
| Riddell | ScottK: thanks | 22:18 |
| Riddell | ScottK: python-qt3 seems to work for me | 22:18 |
| ScottK | Riddell: OK, it was probably a transient after the sip upload | 22:18 |
| JontheEchidna | Have we decided on what to do about python-kde3 yet? | 22:18 |
| ScottK | It's already removed, isn't it? | 22:19 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, I guess so | 22:19 |
| Riddell | yes I killed it | 22:20 |
| ScottK | \o/ | 22:20 |
| JontheEchidna | one less kde3 rdepend | 22:20 |
| JontheEchidna | Found a total of 196 reverse build-depend(s) for kdelibs4-dev. | 22:20 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, universe only | 22:21 |
| JontheEchidna | only 6 more elsewhere though | 22:21 |
| JontheEchidna | I have a few more kde3 and general kde cruft removals if any archive admins feel bored (ha ha) | 22:23 |
| JontheEchidna | https://bugs.launchpad.net/~echidnaman/+reportedbugs?field.searchtext=request+for+removal | 22:23 |
| lex79 | version of qt4 4.5.3 should be 4.5.3-0ubuntu1 ? in archive it's 4.5.3really4.5.2-0ubuntu1 | 22:25 |
| JontheEchidna | 4.5.3-0ubuntu is lower than 4.5.3really4.5.2 | 22:26 |
| Riddell | lex79: needs to be 4.5.3really4.5.3-0ubuntu1 | 22:26 |
| lex79 | ok thanks | 22:26 |
| Riddell | and if this gets uploaded and fails then we're into horribly stupid version numbers | 22:27 |
| JontheEchidna | 4.5.3really4.5.2noreally4.5.3-0ubuntu1 | 22:27 |
| JontheEchidna | :D | 22:27 |
| lex79 | LoL | 22:27 |
| Riddell | lex79: I just synced the changelog in qt bzr | 22:27 |
| lex79 | great | 22:27 |
| lex79 | I upload to bzr qt4 | 22:58 |
| lex79 | *uploaded | 22:59 |
| lex79 | the fabo's configure in rules is a bit different from ours, if will be ftbs again we know where we can look | 23:01 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: for reference bug 452883 might very well caused by us, I removed the uglyish default_blue or whatever it is called wallpaper at all levels which might eventually cause the selection to be broken | 23:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 452883 in kdebase-workspace "Can not set background picture for kdm" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452883 | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | which would be weird but technically possible given the weirdness of all kdm related stuff | 23:19 |
| JontheEchidna | then it'd be debian, not us :P | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | nah | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | I removed it | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | me | 23:19 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, right | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | because it was showing up in the plasma wallpaper selection dialog as well | 23:20 |
| apachelogger | which was quite the PITA | 23:20 |
| apachelogger | so Id also like to add... if this is caused by our change to the kdm defaults, then I freaking give a crap whether wallpaper setting is working because it is a minor use case that is only meant to make kdm look ugly and I rather have no default_blue wallpaper than a working wallpaper selection | 23:21 |
| lex79 | have you seen this: http://websvn.kde.org/?revision=1034475&view=revision | 23:21 |
| lex79 | ? | 23:21 |
| lex79 | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202799 | 23:21 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 202799 in kcm_kdm "Background image preview updates are not repainted" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 23:22 |
| JontheEchidna | that just fixes the preview widget itself | 23:22 |
| JontheEchidna | a user-set wallpaper still wont' work in KDM | 23:22 |
| apachelogger | well, just set the wally manually in the kdmrc and see how the kcm behaves then | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | if it starts working then my enhancement to the kdm defaults is causing the issue | 23:23 |
| apachelogger | which might be worked around by setting the default wally to air | 23:23 |
| * apachelogger goes to bed though | 23:24 | |
| apachelogger | nini | 23:24 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm... does backgroundrc look for an explicit filename? | 23:26 |
| JontheEchidna | the kcm isn't writing anything to backgroundrc | 23:26 |
| JontheEchidna | prob. the bug right there | 23:26 |
| JontheEchidna | setting it manually works. The bug is that the kcm isn't writing to the background config file | 23:31 |
| JontheEchidna | themed mode doesn't use backgroundrc, so it's unaffected | 23:31 |
| debfx | Riddell: I have an experimental patch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/295015/ | 23:36 |
| debfx | it works for me but I can't test if it causes trouble on laptops with hardware based brightness fn keys | 23:37 |
| Riddell | debfx: looks sensible at a glace but the change to updateSlider breaks API | 23:47 |
| Riddell | testers needed for k3b! http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/k3b/ | 23:51 |
| JontheEchidna | whoa, new alpha? | 23:52 |
| debfx | Riddell: updateSlider() is a private slot, does changing it cause an issue? | 23:52 |
| * JontheEchidna would be worried if a battery applet was an exported library | 23:53 | |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think that'd cause any issues, imo | 23:55 |
| Riddell | debfx: I'd hope not, although c++ binary compatibility rules are so random I couldn't say for sure | 23:57 |
| Riddell | but right, that's not in the library, my mistake, should be fine then | 23:57 |
| Riddell | debfx: I'd recommend throwing a packaging into your PPA, I presume you know how? | 23:58 |
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